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Cornell Penalty Shots

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Cornell Penalty Shots
Posted by: Trotsky (---.ashbva.adelphia.net)
Date: November 26, 2006 02:44PM

I haven't seen a list of them, so I will be trying to build one here. Assistance / memory-jogging etc. appreciated.
 
Re: Cornell Penalty Shots
Posted by: Beeeej (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: November 26, 2006 02:47PM

There was a helpful list of Cornell penalty shots attempted since 1987 in this weekend's program. Someone who bought a program should be able to find it easily.

(Why since 1987? Because that's the last time a Cornellian scored on a penalty shot - and it was Joey.) Carefoot's was, IIRC, the fifth attempt since 1987.

 
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Re: Cornell Penalty Shots
Posted by: redhair34 (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: November 26, 2006 02:50PM

I'm about to head up to the game, but off the top of my head... Charlie Cook against Vermont 3 seasons ago, and McKee's stop on a Yale player (Yaworski? maybe?). If someone doesn't beat me to it, I'll look them up to confirm after the game.
 
Re: Cornell Penalty Shots
Posted by: Trotsky (---.ashbva.adelphia.net)
Date: November 26, 2006 03:29PM

Beeeej
There was a helpful list of Cornell penalty shots attempted since 1987 in this weekend's program. Someone who bought a program should be able to find it easily.

If someone would transcribe those, I'd appreciate it, thanks.
 
Re: Cornell Penalty Shots
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: November 26, 2006 08:58PM

Player-------- Date-- Per Time-- Opp- Location---------------- Opp Goalie
Ross Lemon--- 3/10/90 3 14:04 RPI ECAC Semi @ Boston Garden Sean Kennedy
Ryan Moynihan 1/31/98 3 4:49 SLU Lynah-------------------- Eric Heffler
Ryan Moynihan 3/5/00- 2 19:40 Princ-- "---------------------- Dave Stathos
C. Cook-------- 1/23/04 2 12:10 UVM-- "---------------------- Travis Russell
M. Carefoot--- 11/11/06 2 19:51 Dart-- "---------------------- Mike Devine

 
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Re: Cornell Penalty Shots
Posted by: Trotsky (---.ashbva.adelphia.net)
Date: November 26, 2006 10:32PM

Thank you, sir.

Edit: I have the Princeton attempt on 3/4/00.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/26/2006 10:39PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Cornell Penalty Shots
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (Moderator)
Date: November 27, 2006 05:03AM

Do you want to include the results of the shootout in Florida as a footnote? Strangely enough, it's kind of hard to find the full sequence of shots, since the shootout never happened as far as the NCAA is concerned. Here's what I can infer from the recap (I was there, but didn't write it down at the time):

Michael Gergen (UMD) on Dave McKee (CU): save 0-0
Matt Moulson (CU) on Isaac Reichmuth (UMD): GOAL 1-0

??? (UMD) on Dave McKee (CU) GOAL 1-1
Mitch Carefoot (CU) on Isaac Reichmuth (UMD): GOAL 2-1

??? (UMD) on Dave McKee (CU) ??? 1-2
??? (CU) on Isaac Reichmuth (UMD): ??? 2-1

Andrew Carroll (UMD) on Dave McKee (CU) GOAL 2-2
Daniel Pegoraro (CU) on Isaac Reichmuth (UMD): miss 2-2

??? (UMD) on Dave McKee (CU) save 2-2
Cam Abbott (CU) on Isaac Reichmuth (UMD): GOAL 3-2

 
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Re: Cornell Penalty Shots
Posted by: jkahn (---.73.146.216.biz.sta.networkgci.net)
Date: November 27, 2006 10:54AM

jtwcornell91
Do you want to include the results of the shootout in Florida as a footnote? Strangely enough, it's kind of hard to find the full sequence of shots, since the shootout never happened as far as the NCAA is concerned. Here's what I can infer from the recap (I was there, but didn't write it down at the time):

Michael Gergen (UMD) on Dave McKee (CU): save 0-0
Matt Moulson (CU) on Isaac Reichmuth (UMD): GOAL 1-0

??? (UMD) on Dave McKee (CU) GOAL 1-1
Mitch Carefoot (CU) on Isaac Reichmuth (UMD): GOAL 2-1

??? (UMD) on Dave McKee (CU) ??? 1-2
??? (CU) on Isaac Reichmuth (UMD): ??? 2-1

Andrew Carroll (UMD) on Dave McKee (CU) GOAL 2-2
Daniel Pegoraro (CU) on Isaac Reichmuth (UMD): miss 2-2

??? (UMD) on Dave McKee (CU) save 2-2
Cam Abbott (CU) on Isaac Reichmuth (UMD): GOAL 3-2
O'Byrne is the missing Cornell shooter.

 
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Re: Cornell Penalty Shots
Posted by: Give My Regards (---.oracorp.com)
Date: November 27, 2006 11:59AM

From Arthur Mintz's fantastic _Cornell Hockey Record Book_, which covers 1957-87, here are the pre-87 penalty shots:

Taken by Cornell players:

11/18/84 -- Duanne Moeser, vs Army (Stenson) -- miss
2/11/83 -- Jeff Baikie, at Harvard (Grant Blair) -- miss
12/29/81 -- Randy MacFarlane, vs Plattsburgh at Lake Placid (Knish) -- miss
2/27/79 -- Brock Tredway, at St. Lawrence (Wilson) -- miss
2/24/79 -- Len Jankowski, vs Northeastern (Ricciardi) -- score
1/20/79 -- Brock Tredway, vs Yale (Allain) -- miss
1/17/79 -- Brock Tredway, vs Clarkson (Moore) -- score
1/20/73 -- Carlo Ugolini, vs Toronto (Anderson) -- score
2/16/72 -- Larry Fullan, at Yale (Fitzsimmons) -- miss
3/6/65 -- Mike Doran, vs Dartmouth (Gere) -- miss

Taken against Cornell goalies:

11/17/84 -- Doug Dadswell, vs Pinceton (Oshier) -- score
12/29/81 -- Brian Hayward, vs Plattsburgh at Lake Placid (D'Anjou) -- score
3/1/80 -- Brian Hayward, at Princeton (Higgins) -- miss
3/5/77 -- Steve Napier, vs Penn (Suss) -- miss
1/18/75 -- Dave Chrastina, vs Clarkson (O'Driscoll) -- miss
11/28/64 -- Al McNally, vs Queen's (Pond) -- score

 
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Re: Cornell Penalty Shots - success rate of penalty shots
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: November 27, 2006 01:07PM

Has anyone seen stats on the success rate of penalty shots in college hockey? For the NHL I recall shots are successful a bit less than half the time.
 
Re: Cornell Penalty Shots
Posted by: RatushnyFan (---.rbccm.com)
Date: November 27, 2006 03:03PM

Can we agree that Ross Lemon's miss was the one with the biggest impact? I remember that day like it was yesterday.
 
Re: Cornell Penalty Shots
Posted by: ugarte (38.136.14.---)
Date: November 27, 2006 03:21PM

RatushnyFan
Can we agree that Ross Lemon's miss was the one with the biggest impact? I remember that day like it was yesterday.
Still, that particular miss doesn't haunt me as much as the waved-off Andison goal.

 
 
Re: Cornell Penalty Shots
Posted by: Beeeej (38.136.58.---)
Date: November 27, 2006 03:53PM

RatushnyFan
Can we agree that Ross Lemon's miss was the one with the biggest impact? I remember that day like it was yesterday.

It was also his birthday. And yes, I still remember that one vividly.

 
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Re: Cornell Penalty Shots
Posted by: Trotsky (---.raytheon.com)
Date: November 27, 2006 05:41PM

Beeeej
RatushnyFan
Can we agree that Ross Lemon's miss was the one with the biggest impact? I remember that day like it was yesterday.

It was also his birthday. And yes, I still remember that one vividly.

He faked Duncan down and had the entire net, but couldn't lift the puck off the ice. One of the all-time worst hockey memories. :-/
 
Re: Cornell Penalty Shots
Posted by: redice (---.usadatanet.net)
Date: November 28, 2006 06:21AM

Beeeej
RatushnyFan
Can we agree that Ross Lemon's miss was the one with the biggest impact? I remember that day like it was yesterday.

It was also his birthday. And yes, I still remember that one vividly.

Yes, and for you numerologists out there burnout, I believe that was his 23rd birthday; would have been his 23rd goal; and he wore the number 23. Kinda strange.
 
Re: Cornell Penalty Shots
Posted by: French Rage (---.packetdesign.com)
Date: November 28, 2006 01:37PM

redice
Beeeej
RatushnyFan
Can we agree that Ross Lemon's miss was the one with the biggest impact? I remember that day like it was yesterday.

It was also his birthday. And yes, I still remember that one vividly.

Yes, and for you numerologists out there burnout, I believe that was his 23rd birthday; would have been his 23rd goal; and he wore the number 23. Kinda strange.

It's like a bad Dr. Pepper commercial.

 
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Re: Cornell Penalty Shots
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: November 28, 2006 05:37PM

jkahn
O'Byrne is the missing Cornell shooter.

Don't remind us. He is very much among the missing.panic
 
Re: Cornell Penalty Shots
Posted by: Larry72 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: November 28, 2006 06:47PM

Not to embarrass "CalgAri" too much...he was sitting on my lap in the old Boston Garden when Ross Lemon missed that penalty shot. OK...he was only 5 years old. He cried when Cornell lost. I'll never forget that moment!!

Larry '72
 
Re: Cornell Penalty Shots
Posted by: Trotsky (---.ashbva.adelphia.net)
Date: November 28, 2006 09:28PM

Among the weirder trivia:

1/17/79 - 2/27/79, Cornell attempted 4 penalty shots (25% of all their attempts in history) over a period of 14 games, 3 of them by the same player, Brock Tredway.

12/29/81, each team (Cornell and Plattsburgh) had a penalty shot in the same game.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/28/2006 09:29PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Cornell Penalty Shots
Posted by: Give My Regards (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: November 28, 2006 10:34PM

Trotsky
He faked Duncan down and had the entire net, but couldn't lift the puck off the ice. One of the all-time worst hockey memories. :-/

Worse -- it was Sean Kennedy, ostensibly the BACKUP, ferchrissakes, who barely pinned the shot to the ice with his knuckles. I don't recall Kennedy doing much else in an RPI uniform, but he had a career day that game, stopping something like 42 shots.

Sixteen and a half years ago, and I still need to go do this bang

 
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Re: Cornell Penalty Shots
Posted by: Chuck Henderson (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: November 29, 2006 04:36AM

Give My Regards
1/20/73 -- Carlo Ugolini, vs Toronto (Anderson) -- score

This is the one that really stands out in my memory. Ugolini did a complete 360 as he came in on the goalie. Is that even legal now?

 
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Re: Cornell Penalty Shots
Posted by: ACM (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: November 29, 2006 09:30AM

Chuck Henderson
Give My Regards
1/20/73 -- Carlo Ugolini, vs Toronto (Anderson) -- score

This is the one that really stands out in my memory. Ugolini did a complete 360 as he came in on the goalie. Is that even legal now?

What goalie? The player who defended the penalty shot, Warren Anderson, was a defenseman, inserted by Toronto coach Tom Watt for reasons apparent only to him. The bizarre move obviously didn't work very well.
 
Re: Cornell Penalty Shots
Posted by: ursusminor (---.nrl.navy.mil)
Date: November 29, 2006 10:14AM

Give My Regards
Trotsky
He faked Duncan down and had the entire net, but couldn't lift the puck off the ice. One of the all-time worst hockey memories. :-/

Worse -- it was Sean Kennedy, ostensibly the BACKUP, ferchrissakes, who barely pinned the shot to the ice with his knuckles. I don't recall Kennedy doing much else in an RPI uniform, but he had a career day that game, stopping something like 42 shots.

Sixteen and a half years ago, and I still need to go do this bang
Kennedy played slightly over half the minutes for RPI that year as a Soph, [www.augenblick.org]. He was beaten out by Neil Little in later years.
 
Re: Cornell Penalty Shots
Posted by: Will (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: November 29, 2006 11:12AM

ACM
Chuck Henderson
Give My Regards
1/20/73 -- Carlo Ugolini, vs Toronto (Anderson) -- score

This is the one that really stands out in my memory. Ugolini did a complete 360 as he came in on the goalie. Is that even legal now?

What goalie? The player who defended the penalty shot, Warren Anderson, was a defenseman, inserted by Toronto coach Tom Watt for reasons apparent only to him. The bizarre move obviously didn't work very well.

Did he actually dress Anderson in goalie gear for that shot? Was he dressed as a goalie for the entire game?

 
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Re: Cornell Penalty Shots
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (Moderator)
Date: November 29, 2006 12:32PM

Will
ACM
Chuck Henderson
Give My Regards
1/20/73 -- Carlo Ugolini, vs Toronto (Anderson) -- score

This is the one that really stands out in my memory. Ugolini did a complete 360 as he came in on the goalie. Is that even legal now?

What goalie? The player who defended the penalty shot, Warren Anderson, was a defenseman, inserted by Toronto coach Tom Watt for reasons apparent only to him. The bizarre move obviously didn't work very well.

Did he actually dress Anderson in goalie gear for that shot? Was he dressed as a goalie for the entire game?

I believe the rules used to be less specific about this; it didn't have to be a goalie defending the shot.

 
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Re: Cornell Penalty Shots
Posted by: Killer (---.fidelity.com)
Date: November 29, 2006 12:49PM

ACM
Chuck Henderson
Give My Regards
1/20/73 -- Carlo Ugolini, vs Toronto (Anderson) -- score

This is the one that really stands out in my memory. Ugolini did a complete 360 as he came in on the goalie. Is that even legal now?

What goalie? The player who defended the penalty shot, Warren Anderson, was a defenseman, inserted by Toronto coach Tom Watt for reasons apparent only to him. The bizarre move obviously didn't work very well.

YES!! That's absolutley right...and I've been looking for someone else to confirm this. I watched that shot from behind in Section A, so it must have been the 2nd period of the game. I always figured that the Toronto coach assumed Carlo "The Magician" was going to make his goalie look foolish, so he decided to throw him curve by putting in a defenseman and having him skate out to challenge Carlo early.

Regarding Will's post in response to this, it didn't matter how Anderson was dressed for the shot (and no, he wasn't in goalie gear), 'cause "The Magician" totally undressed him in front of nearly 4,000 people. The kicker was that when Carlo got behind him with the puck, he stopped in front of the net and looked back at Anderson before netting it. The place went friggin' nuts.
 
Re: Cornell Penalty Shots
Posted by: CM cWo 44 (---.nyc.biz.rr.com)
Date: November 29, 2006 01:00PM

This seems very strange to me. What exactly would constitute a miss on a defender opposed penalty shot? A simple poke check? A steal of the puck? Time experation?



P.S. That's a pretty embarassing statement for the goalie, to suggest that a strong defender in front of an open net is better defense than a goalie. They may as well have played with 6 skaters all game if that were the case.
 
Re: Cornell Penalty Shots
Posted by: CowbellGuy (Moderator)
Date: November 29, 2006 04:36PM

Larry72
He cried when Cornell lost.
I think you got your verb tense wrong.

 
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Re: Cornell Penalty Shots
Posted by: Steve Rockey (---.empsl.cornell.edu)
Date: November 29, 2006 04:40PM

I recall a penalty shot scored by Peter Shire where he unleashed one of his brutal slap shots from just inside the blue line. This was his regular place to shoot from and he scored a lot from that range. I think it also caught the goalie totally off guard.

It was probalby his senior year 1978 when he scored 24 goals and it was a home game.
 

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