Cornell 4 Robert Morris 1

2 10:40 Cor Kennedy 1 (Barlow 1)
2 15:47 Cor pp Gallagher 1 (Krantz 1, Nash 1)

3 03:26 RMU Gasper (Biodich, Towsley)
3 19:14 Cor Carefoot 1 (Bitz 1, Greening 1)
3 19:59 Cor en Mugford 1 (Bitz 2)

(Watching the bleeping webcast from afar) If every time you lose a connection and have to watch the bleeping Loch Ness monster ad before reconnecting to Live Action, there are gonna be some endangered CSTV employees if we learn their home addresses. I think eLynah faithful will do a beter job tracking than the military did to Osama. And for good reason: the stakes are higher.

LGR!

Your link indicates you've got FIOS. [Phone company fiber optic to your door.] So is it blazing fast watching the video ... or it still sucks? I notice the only choice with the webcast video is a tiny window, too small, or else full screen, and no reasonable way to both watch and chat here ... other than what I'm doing, using two computers.

i got FIOS too....its awesome 15/2mbps for $45/month. I have it streaming on my laptop fullscreen, and typing on my desktop.

About 3 minutes into the season and the Cornell announcers say for the first time of the 2006-07 seasons that a penalty against Cornell looks weak. They were right this time - it's an RM being sequestered.

Comcast doubled or tripled its speed. It's theoretical or 3 am and no-one's-online speed I think. When you neede a big download, Comcast still chokes worse than the Big Red gridders in Bruno Town.

End of first, no scores.

billhoward
Your link indicates you've got FIOS. [Phone company fiber optic to your door.] So is it blazing fast watching the video ... or it still sucks? I notice the only choice with the webcast video is a tiny window, too small, or else full screen, and no reasonable way to both watch and chat here ... other than what I'm doing, using two computers.

The one reason to watch in Windows last year was that I could S-Video-to-RCA it into my TV, and WMP did this cool thing where the video went full-screen on the TV, and I could put other windows on top of it on the laptop. Something lese the Flash Monkeys at CSTV took away from us.

Freshmen getting lots of playing time. Nash at the point a lot during power plays (strange seeing a defenseman wearing 24).

lots of opportunities...unable to convert.

I just got back from the game (had to leave after the 1st period so I could sit around the Schwartz at rehearsal and wait for my scene to come up - hopefully I'll make it back for the tail end of the game). RMU wasn't playing especially well, though their goalie just barely stopped some good shots. Unfortunately, WE weren't playing especially well either. The passing in particular was pretty poor, with many misses. A lot of our players didn't seem to be aware of where the puck was even when they were stepping all over it, and were instead looking around for it. This was especially noticeable during the 5 on 3 powerplay in which we kept passing and fumbling around and passing and fumbling around some more but never taking a shot until RMU was back to full strength.

If this is our team for the season, I'm pretty worried. We're lucky RMU didn't seem to have a strong offense, or they'd really be up right now. Hopefully though this game can serve as a wakeup call?

Can someone tell me the history of RMU? Is their team new to D1 hockey, or just new to our league? Are they generally considered good, bad, or mediocre? To be honest, I don't even know where RMU is.

As a side note - I really enjoyed the "Ro-Mo SUCKS" cheer that was getting started. Calling them Ro-Mo just has a nice derogatory feel to it

scoooreee

Kennedy!

Thanks for the update

Looks as if the Big Red is picking up where it left off six months ago. Lots of Cornell players buzzing around the ice, setting up, setting even better on PP, not a lot of shots, fewer goals, and so if the game was decided on style points like boxing, Cornell would be ahead. OK, half a game, one goal for the Big Red against a mediocre opponent.

Also nice to see CSTV kept its Freeze the Picture algorithm active. When too many pixels change in a hurry, say on a breakway, CSTV conserves Internet electron energy by halting all pixel activity for 20 or 30 seconds.

The goal: Barlow skating down right wing centered right in front to Kennedy coming down the middle

Gallagher scores

LGR!

jkahn
Gallagher scores

This is new: Cornell penalized after scoring a goal.

shots 33-12 end of 2

las224
If this is our team for the season, I'm pretty worried.

Relax. Its a young team and its the first game. They have a lot of learning to do and leadership to gain. If you're expecting us to go tearing through the conference and make the FF, you're quite likely to be sorely disappointed.

Enjoy watching the team learn and grow this year. And to learn and grow, they gotta start somewhere.

And gotta love the shots so far.

Can someone tell me the history of RMU? Is their team new to D1 hockey, or just new to our league? Are they generally considered good, bad, or mediocre? To be honest, I don't even know where RMU is.

They are pretty new to D1. They are not new to our league - assuming you mean conference - because they are not in it at all. They are in the CHA.

They're not particularly good. RMU is outside Pittsburgh.

billhoward
Also nice to see CSTV kept its Freeze the Picture algorithm active. When too many pixels change in a hurry, say on a breakway, CSTV conserves Internet electron energy by halting all pixel activity for 20 or 30 seconds.

For me, the picture gets blurry and you lose any and all ideas of what's going on, but it doesn't freeze. My only complaints tonight are missing the pre-game (but they started before the game, so they're better than last year) and the incessent changing of shots, most of which are too zoomed in - leading directly to the blurry picture.

From the bird's eye view of CSTV (including one funky camera angle that's tilted like a Batman lair), Blake Gallagher looks like one helluva player.

jkahn
shots 33-12 end of 2

Interpolate out to three periods and you've got 48 shots and 3 goals for Cornell, 18 shots and 0 goals for Ro-Mo. Seem a likely outcome?

If so, the shots allowed per 60 [minutes] sounds real good. But if you need close to 50 shots to put 3 goals past a sub-.500 team, you've got some challenges on offense. Plus ca change.

No matter what, it's good to see hockey under way again. Go, Red. [Edit] And the season is barely 40 minutes old for a very young team. They can only get better.

DeltaOne81
Relax. Its a young team and its the first game. They have a lot of learning to do and leadership to gain. If you're expecting us to go tearing through the conference and make the FF, you're quite likely to be sorely disappointed.

Enjoy watching the team learn and grow this year. And to learn and grow, they gotta start somewhere.

And gotta love the shots so far.

Fair enough I suppose I'm just an over-anxious senior who would love a Frozen Four year, even though I realize chances are slim to none of that happening.

DeltaOne81
They are pretty new to D1. They are not new to our league - assuming you mean conference - because they are not in it at all. They are in the CHA. They're not particularly good. RMU is outside Pittsburgh.

I did mean conference - didn't know they were in the CHA. Thanks for the clarification

RMU makes it 2-1

see ya, you loon

Gonna be tough for Davenport to match Leneveu's / McKee's GAA numbers.

I like the mesmerized looking frosh right in front of the camera on the crowd shots.

the faceoff numbers are interesting.. 41-14.. that cant be right thats more than 1 a minute..

Carefoot makes it 3-1 with a minute left

Thank you, CSTV, for freezing just before Carefoot nets No. 3.

Mugford with 1 second to go. the final score will make it look this was a cakewalk.

billhoward
Thank you, CSTV, for freezing just before Carefoot nets No. 3.

Nope. Blame your ISP on that.

...and there's the stick salute (my favorite part of any game).

i thought the rink had tunnels built under the stands leading to each bench. the teams definitely filed out like they used to. did they decide not to go through with that part of the construction?

The lockerroom at the end of our tunnel is not yet done. It'll open next year. The visiting team will have their new locker room at the end ice where it always was.

Blame my ISP for a freeze-frame? That's slanderous if you're suggesting Comcast is something other than top-notch in every regard. <g>

I could be completely wrong, but I think that the new locker rooms might not be done, so they are still using the old ones for the time being?

A-19
i thought the rink had tunnels built under the stands leading to each bench. the teams definitely filed out like they used to. did they decide not to go through with that part of the construction?

I thought that the new locker rooms were the one part of the construction that wasn't finished by the time of the new season.

Three stars from WHCU
3 Bitz
2 Nash
1 Davenport

Did anyone catch the line combinations for tonight's game?

TShen
Did anyone catch the line combinations for tonight's game?

Greening-Bitz-Carefoot
Milo-Gallagher-McCutcheon
Mugford-Kennedy-Sawada
Barlow-Scott-Romano

Seminoff/Nash
Krueger/Davenport
Salmela/Krantz

Davenport

fullofgas
Three stars from WHCU
3 Bitz
2 Nash
1 Davenport

Which Davenport was that?

Chris 02

fullofgas
Three stars from WHCU
3 Bitz
2 Nash
1 Davenport

Which Davenport was that?

Troy--he was excellent, but gave up a few too many juicy rebounds

1. Nash
2. Kennedy
3. Mugford


Hope he changes up the lines for Saturday. Didn't like the Bitz nor the Scott lines.

redhair34

Chris 02

fullofgas
Three stars from WHCU
3 Bitz
2 Nash
1 Davenport

Which Davenport was that?

Troy--he was excellent, but gave up a few too many juicy rebounds

He was very solid overall. He needs to work on his stick skills when clearing. He did save 2 goals on one sequence when the score was 2-1 -- the second one from his knees. He should have had a shutout. That puck should have been cleared.

Was glad they took Carefoot after the point on the powerplay mid-way through the game - he was brutal there. Davenport was good. Thought the D was better than expected while I thought the wingers were pretty bad in the defensive zone. Would rather see these lines:

Milo-Bitz-McCutcheon
Barlow-Gallagher-Carefoot
Greening-Kennedy-Scott
Mugford-Fontas-Sawada

I was really impressed with Davenport tonight - he seemed to have a good eye for the puck, and he stayed really relaxed the whole time, except that shot by Krantz that Troy caught between his knees. Almost gave both of us a heart attack, but he was quick to his knees.

calgARI '07
Thought the D was better than expected while I thought the wingers were pretty bad in the defensive zone.

I completely agree.

the rink looked kinda empty on the webcast. what did people at the game think?

A-19
the rink looked kinda empty on the webcast. what did people at the game think?

It was brutal. Half the new seats behind the scoreboard were empty and section O was barely half-full. There are still a couple dozen student season tickets that haven't been sold as well. There were several empty seats in B.

A-19
the rink looked kinda empty on the webcast. what did people at the game think?

I thought there were more people at the York game.

redhair34

A-19
the rink looked kinda empty on the webcast. what did people at the game think?

I thought there were more people at the York game.

Were there any prelims tonight? Thursday, late October. . . ?

Yes there were prelims plus also there were people in the Bailey Hall opening ceremony.

I thought Davenport looked good in goal. He made an amazing two save sequence when we were 2-1 but the goal he let in was def a softie too. Do you guys think Schafer will start him or Scrivens against RIT?

Yeah, most Math classes had prelims tonight. I got there for the last two minutes of the game (happened to be two Cornell goals). At least one person got kicked out of B for swearing. Townie sections were pretty empty, and it's obvious that there are lots of student season tickets left.

Omie
Yes there were prelims plus also there were people in the Bailey Hall opening ceremony.

I thought Davenport looked good in goal. He made an amazing two save sequence when we were 2-1 but the goal he let in was def a softie too. Do you guys think Schafer will start him or Scrivens against RIT?

I think he'll go with Scrivens to give him a shot early in the year. I do, however, think Davenport will be the number one when all is said and done.

A-19
the rink looked kinda empty on the webcast. what did people at the game think?

You must be mistaken, as was I watching on the Webcast. Attendance was a Cornell all-time record, 4004,according to Cornell's ministry of sports information. You can look it up in the official box score: [cornellbigred.cstv.com]

billhoward

A-19
the rink looked kinda empty on the webcast. what did people at the game think?

You must be mistaken, as was I watching on the Webcast. Attendance was a Cornell all-time record, 4004,according to Cornell's ministry of sports information. You can look it up in the official box score: [cornellbigred.cstv.com]

So that's about 95% capacity. Since Cornell seems to count tickets sold that means there's a couple of hundred seats available and 400 people on the waiting list. Hmmm...

Did Fontas play tonight? I don't remember hearing his name in the broadcast, and I was looking forward to seeing him play.

Fontas? What game were you watching? I think you meant Romano.

A lot of my fears were quelled. Nash and Krueger both looked quite comfortable out there. Nash logged a ton of ice and did well with it. Salmela continues to give me ulcers.

As for the forwards, Greening looked awesome in warmups. He has a monster shot and a quick release. I think he's going to score a lot of goals for this team, but he wasn't quite as impressive in the game itself. Still looked pretty good though. Gallagher was excellent in the game. It was nice to see someone skate in from the perimeter on the PP. He backed the defender right up, found a hole, and wristed in a great goal. Schafer just kept trucking McCutcheon out there, but he had a few bad turnovers, flubbed shots, and really didn't look good. I sort of get the feeling he's going to keep getting ice time to make up for it though.

Davenport looked pretty good, though he didn't get tested much. He certainly likes to handle the puck every single opportunity he gets, though.

I think the O is going to need a little time to gel, but they certainly have the potential to do great things.

Liz '05
Did Fontas play tonight? I don't remember hearing his name in the broadcast, and I was looking forward to seeing him play.

No he was a scratch (healthy, I presume ).

CowbellGuy
Schafer just kept trucking McCutcheon out there, but he had a few bad turnovers, flubbed shots, and really didn't look good.

I thought he was trying to do to much, same for Milo and Romano.

So I'd say that I like the team so far. I thought less of last year's team this early on.

I thought Davenport played very well, and the student section even cheered his name at the end of the game. He saluted us, too, to the delight of the fans. The freshmen that stood out: Romano was fantastic to watch handling the puck, and Greening looked awesome as well. They're all gonna be a fun bunch to watch as they develop.

I don't know whether their goalie was just great (he has won defensive player of the week a few times in the past) but I thought we should have scored more on some easy shots. Also, if RMU's defense isn't amazing, I'd be a bit concerned about our puck handling. We got it poked away and blocked on seemingly every possession. Maybe we were too consistent in our passes and style of play.

Despite all the negativity, I'm very optimistic about this group.

Romano has extraordinary skills but he turned over the puck probably half a dozen times tonight. He needs to be with some bigger, better defensive players. No reason for him to try and dipsy-doodle out of the defensive zone. Also turned the puck over a couple times right inside the RM blueline which coaches HATE. Unbelievable skills though. He looks like a Euro out there.

Cornell coach Mike Schafer also praised Boucher, as well as Cornell goaltender Troy Davenport, who appears to have cemented his role as the Cornell starter.

"The biggest thing is that going into the season everyone had questions about [our] goaltending," said Schafer. "I think that Troy Davenport clearly answered that question here tonight."

[www.uscho.com]

billhoward

A-19
the rink looked kinda empty on the webcast. what did people at the game think?

You must be mistaken, as was I watching on the Webcast. Attendance was a Cornell all-time record, 4004,according to Cornell's ministry of sports information. You can look it up in the official box score: [cornellbigred.cstv.com]

It may have been 4004, but that isn't the Lynah alltime record. During the 1970 season, several games were listed at 4600 or 4700. That must have been some tightly packed SRO...

They are being absolutely nasty about swearing. There was an usher between A and B the entire game spending 2 minutes per row, and cycling up and down. When there was a penalty, they were blatantly staring at my lips for the "asshole." So I blatantly turned to all my friends and pointed her out, telling them not to swear. She actually liked that, I think; she told me to make sure I didn't swear and to pass it down the line.

Later, in the second, I very loudly called out "Logan Bittle, you suck. I hate you." The other usher told me to be careful and not to call them out by name. Apparently they (the ushers) got REALLY chewed out after the York game about the student sections. She told me that if I said "name, you sucK" again she would have to kick me out. She was actually apologetic, though. I think she realized my crew and I don't swear at all, support the team, and lead in cheering. However, she was very emphatic. I asked who it was who was mad, and she didn't say. Then I asked, "is it Nighman?" A nod, yes.

NIIIIIGHMAN. SUCKS! NIGGGHMAN! SUCKS! NIIIIIIGHMAN! SUCKS! LET'S GO RED!

We later garnered that "suck" was more of a problem than anything. Calling out by name is discouraged, but they'll "let is slide." My part of Section A did a little brainstorming, and soon we were thinking of telling the "goaltender in blue" that he was awful, the gentleman wearing number 8 that we thoroughly enjoyed his performance, and our "esteemed opponents" that we highly disliked them. But the whole thing really deflated me; I think they're really trying to drive us out.

I'd add that the usher said that it was the people in the new box seats that had been calling in all week to complain.

The crackdown sucks, but on the other hand, it'll give everybody the opportunity to be more original in their taunts of the other team. It may be a blessing in disguise.

Come on, though, no NAMES? Passing the team-of-the-day roster around the back row of the pepband for taunt fodder is one of my fondest memories...

Which people in the box seats were complaining? The ones in the walkway or the ones behind the townies?

Jacob '06
see ya, you loon

Please, get it right! That's "See ya - you poon!"

Section A Banshee
Come on, though, no NAMES? Passing the team-of-the-day roster around the back row of the pepband for taunt fodder is one of my fondest memories...

I'm surprised they are prohibiting calling of names. Usually the annual crackdown is merely about profanity.

Trotsky

Section A Banshee
Come on, though, no NAMES? Passing the team-of-the-day roster around the back row of the pepband for taunt fodder is one of my fondest memories...

I'm surprised they are prohibiting calling of names. Usually the annual crackdown is merely about profanity.

Maybe they're so into the atmosphere that they've started thinking of the opponents' names as profanity

nobody has really mentioned this, but I thought our power play was particularly worthless tonight. I was excited watching the game last week in which lots of productive passing occurred in the offensive zone (and yes RMU is slightly better than York but I think the point still holds) but this weeks version was bland, even boring with the perimeter passes and the one timer from the blue line.

BMac
I asked who it was who was mad, and she didn't say. Then I asked, "is it Nighman?" A nod, yes.

NIIIIIGHMAN. SUCKS! NIGGGHMAN! SUCKS! NIIIIIIGHMAN! SUCKS! LET'S GO RED!

We later garnered that "suck" was more of a problem than anything.

Nighman may be on board, but from my knowledge, I know that our doofus of an Athletic Director hates the word "sucks" to his very dark core. He's been known to mutter to himself after "*opponent* SUCKS!" cheers while sitting in the stands.

Hear ye, hear ye, all you people living with 1950s sensibilities:
"SUCKS" ISN'T A DIRTY WORD IN TODAY'S SOCIETY. IT ISN'T OBSCENE. IT MEANS THE SAME AS "STINKS" TODAY. GET OVER IT.

If anyone wants to spend time developing "www.fireandynoel.com," I'll be the first to donate some cash. Get this loser out.

Hey BMac I think you sit right behind me in A...

I can understand profanity being a problem, but I should be able to tell a specific player how much I think he sucks in a dignified manner of my choosing.

They back off about ushering partway into every season from my experience, so don't expect this sort of craziness to continue. Maybe they're just trying to get us all nice for the televised SUCKS game or something.

That is the beauty of cheers in the form "something/SUCKS!" (Which, it must be said, have few other beauties.) What, are they going to throw you out for cheering for the other team?

"Come on! I was only cheering for Harvard!"

If Andy Noel had only heard the crowds of the late 80s/early 90s his head would already have a-sploded, leaving us not-so-sadly without his mat-addled "leadership."

nr53
nobody has really mentioned this, but I thought our power play was particularly worthless tonight.

Got a lot better the second the coaching staff took Carefoot off the point.

ebilmes
Which people in the box seats were complaining? The ones in the walkway or the ones behind the townies?

Can't be the walkway...it's been nearly empty each game. Now that sucks.

Yes. Personally, I was in the Bailey Hall ceremony. Others I know were busy with math prelims.

In my experience it is not the names but the sucks that draw the ire of the ushers. Occupying the first row of D and A twice I got to spend some "quality" time with ushers, like during the last five minutes of a game for saying something similar. At least they explained the infracion quickly enough to allow me to watch the last 30 seconds.

Onto the game...

After watching the video last night I have mixed feelings (how's that for hard hitting analysis). On the one hand a 2-1 result, for all intents and purposes, against RMU isn't great considering the competiton gets exponentially tougher the next two weekends. On the other hand though no one looked out of place at all or overwhelmed by the level of play. Seminoff comes to mind last year, he was clearly trying to do too much and was taking a lot of penalties early on as a result. Like Ari said, Romano may have had a few too many moves last night but it's better to be confident with the puck than timid (as long as we aren't in our defensive zone).

The freshmen forwards just show a lot of good instinct, they seemed to be in the right place at the right time. Not all of their great chances were finished but that will come eventually. Milo and Greening both had a number of great looks from the slot area, which is usually an area where Cornell has trouble gets looks from. Romano and Topher together on a line were showing great ability to control the puck, so Barlow better keep his head up when playing with them. Gallagher I thought showed a lot both ways, he was active on defense and offense and quick.

Davenport I thought made the big saves. Sure he might want that goal back, but with a 2-1 he made a couple point blank saves that easily could've tied it.

As far as the D is concerned, against a subpar RMU team they looked fine. I didn't see any glaring mistakes, and most of the turnovers resulted from forwards playing the point on the PP. A better, faster team still scares me, but I guess that's what these "cupcakes" are for.

I think for this team some subpar teams this weekend, followed by some lower tier ECAC teams next weekend, followed by some ligitimate firepower the following weekend will be a good introduction to college hokcey for these freshmen. A Michigan State or Harvard first weekend would probably just develop some bad habits rather than provide a learning curve.

billhoward

A-19
the rink looked kinda empty on the webcast. what did people at the game think?

You must be mistaken, as was I watching on the Webcast. Attendance was a Cornell all-time record, 4004,according to Cornell's ministry of sports information. You can look it up in the official box score: [cornellbigred.cstv.com]

Thursday night games against nobody opponents are dumb.

At any rate, 4226 > 4004:
[www.collegehockeystats.net]

RazzBaronZ
They back off about ushering partway into every season from my experience

They do. This really ought to go into the FAQ. The issue isn't the ushers, many of whom have been with the program forever, all of whom are recompensed next to nothing for their time, and most of whom are very reasonable people. The issue is that each year the AD needs to set a tone, and he bullies Gene into it. This has been going on far longer than Noel, and it will go on long after he, and I, and even you all, are gone.

Now, in part, the AD is right -- Lynah is not just the students' inelaborately-furnished public toilet. It's also a town/faculty family venue, and it is irritating to hear the same slow-witted obscenities year after year. And, in part, there are students who are not the sharpest cutlery in the drawer who take longer than others to catch on to the fact that this is not an NHL game -- creativity gets extra points, and drunken idiocy will be punished -- and need a bit of an incentive.

But by January, we are all so involved with the action of the ice, and the newbie idiots have been sufficiently trained, that this is no longer an issue. It happens every October. Just ride it out and be good citizens.

Trotsky

RazzBaronZ
They back off about ushering partway into every season from my experience

They do. This really ought to go into the FAQ. The issue isn't the ushers, many of whom have been with the program forever, all of whom are recompensed next to nothing for their time, and most of whom are very reasonable people. The issue is that each year the AD needs to set a tone, and he bullies Gene into it. This has been going on far longer than Noel, and it will go on long after he, and I, and even you all, are gone.

Now, in part, the AD is right -- Lynah is not just the students' inelaborately-furnished public toilet. It's also a town/faculty family venue, and it is irritating to hear the same slow-witted obscenities year after year. And, in part, there are students who are not the sharpest cutlery in the drawer who take longer than others to catch on to the fact that this is not an NHL game -- creativity gets extra points, and drunken idiocy will be punished -- and need a bit of an incentive.

But by January, we are all so involved with the action of the ice, and the newbie idiots have been sufficiently trained, that this is no longer an issue. It happens every October. Just ride it out and be good citizens.

I prefer if the incentive to the fans comes from other fans - e.g. humiliation if you mess up a cheer - rather than having the ushers treat the students like three year olds. Part of college is making mistakes and figuring things out on your own.

nyc94
I prefer if the incentive to the fans comes from other fans - e.g. humiliation if you mess up a cheer - rather than having the ushers treat the students like three year olds. Part of college is making mistakes and figuring things out on your own.

I think we would all prefer that -- nobody moreso than the ushers. The last thing in the world they want is to haul some tequila-sodden would-be Louis Brandeis out of B, spouting off about first amendment rights. I've been given the high sign many times from ushers for educating the youngins into the Lynah chivalric code -- they do not want to go jackboot if they can avoid it. I'm sure many other grads, and even upperclassmen, have done their own interventions as well. There is nothing the ushers like more than a section to clean up its own garbage.

Some schools are bringing back freshman beanies. Maybe overwrought reactionary public humiliation serves a useful purpose in the growth of individual character...

Trotsky
The issue isn't the ushers, many of whom have been with the program forever, all of whom are recompensed next to nothing for their time, and most of whom are very reasonable people.

I agree. No bad-mouthing Earl, he's the man.

nyc94
Part of college is making mistakes and figuring things out on your own.

Actually, that's life in general. The sooner you come to grips with that, the sooner you come to inner peace.

Jim Hyla

nyc94
Part of college is making mistakes and figuring things out on your own.

Actually, that's life in general. The sooner you come to grips with that, the sooner you come to inner peace.

Nuh uh!!! College students know everything they could possibly need to know, much more than those silly adults. I've seen plenty of campus publications that prove this.

BMac
They are being absolutely nasty about swearing. There was an usher between A and B the entire game spending 2 minutes per row, and cycling up and down. When there was a penalty, they were blatantly staring at my lips for the "asshole." So I blatantly turned to all my friends and pointed her out, telling them not to swear. She actually liked that, I think; she told me to make sure I didn't swear and to pass it down the line.

Later, in the second, I very loudly called out "Logan Bittle, you suck. I hate you." The other usher told me to be careful and not to call them out by name. Apparently they (the ushers) got REALLY chewed out after the York game about the student sections. She told me that if I said "name, you sucK" again she would have to kick me out. She was actually apologetic, though. I think she realized my crew and I don't swear at all, support the team, and lead in cheering. However, she was very emphatic. I asked who it was who was mad, and she didn't say. Then I asked, "is it Nighman?" A nod, yes.

NIIIIIGHMAN. SUCKS! NIGGGHMAN! SUCKS! NIIIIIIGHMAN! SUCKS! LET'S GO RED!

We later garnered that "suck" was more of a problem than anything. Calling out by name is discouraged, but they'll "let is slide." My part of Section A did a little brainstorming, and soon we were thinking of telling the "goaltender in blue" that he was awful, the gentleman wearing number 8 that we thoroughly enjoyed his performance, and our "esteemed opponents" that we highly disliked them. But the whole thing really deflated me; I think they're really trying to drive us out.

It still beats the old (ancient old) days. Count your luck. At least you're in Ithaca and able to get to the games. If this was the '40s and you were Jewish, you probably wouldn't have gotten in. (There's still a quota, the joke goes, but now it's 60%.) If this was the '50s, your girlfriend would have been locked in Balch at 11 or thereabouts on weeknights. (Or your girlfriend could have been Janet Reno.) You wouldn't have cared much either way because there was no Lynah, and when there was, there was no team or coach to speak of until the mid 1960s. OK, say the next couple decades were okay in terms of the ushers being easygoing, okay except for no hockey championships the last 36 years. The one constant through all those years was Mike Teeter.

Think of something that sounds rude but isn't obscene and use that: ulcerative or carnivorous. How can they kick you out for saying, "Nickerson, you ulcerative pox." There must be some imaginative Cockey rhyming slang you could invoke, and isn't half of that scatalogical? At which point the ushers will think -- they'll know -- you're another Ivy League wiseass, and they'll be right. But enjoy.

He's right. Perhaps the lesson is that you can be insulting and in favor of your team without feeling it necessary to throw F-bombs around all night....

bandrews37
He's right. Perhaps the lesson is that you can be insulting and in favor of your team without feeling it necessary to throw F-bombs around all night....

None of us want to throw F-bombs. The problem is that they're now apparently cracking down on S-bombs (and not the real S-word), which is already not obscene in today's language.

Although I do like the cockney rhyming slang. Among most Brits, "berk", short for "Berkshire hunt" is already a synonym for the C-word.

jtwcornell91

bandrews37
He's right. Perhaps the lesson is that you can be insulting and in favor of your team without feeling it necessary to throw F-bombs around all night....

None of us want to throw F-bombs. The problem is that they're now apparently cracking down on S-bombs (and not the real S-word), which is already not obscene in today's language.

Although I do like the cockney rhyming slang. Among most Brits, "berk", short for "Berkshire hunt" is already a synonym for the C-word.

Although apparently to Brits I work with, the C-word is not quite as offensive over there as it is here.

My personal favorite though is "Merchant Banker" as a synonym for wanker (that's jerk-off for the non-Brit-literate).

Jeff Hopkins '82

jtwcornell91
Although I do like the cockney rhyming slang. Among most Brits, "berk", short for "Berkshire hunt" is already a synonym for the C-word.

Although apparently to Brits I work with, the C-word is not quite as offensive over there as it is here.

That's also my understanding from my British and Irish colleagues.

Jeff Hopkins '82
My personal favorite though is "Merchant Banker" as a synonym for wanker (that's jerk-off for the non-Brit-literate).

Is it abbreviated to "merch"?

Even if it makes sense to us, I'm just not sure the goalie will be very shaken up if we call him a Merchant Banker.