Rule Changes?

Poll

How Should OT Be Played?

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69 votes were received.

As it is now for 5 min.	46		67%
As it is now for 5 min., followed by a shootout.	3		4%
4x4 for 5 min.	11		16%
4x4 for 5 min., followed by a shootout.	3		4%
4x4 for 5 min., 3x3 for 5 min.	3		4%
4x4 for 5 min., 3x3 for 5 min., followed by a shootout.	3		4%

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NHL.com starts the discussion. First a change in OT?

If the NCAA really wants to reduce the number of ties (which I don't think is necessary), I would find it more palatable to lengthen overtime to 10 or 20 minutes rather than playing by different rules or having a shootout.

jtwcornell91
If the NCAA really wants to reduce the number of ties (which I don't think is necessary), I would find it more palatable to lengthen overtime to 10 or 20 minutes rather than playing by different rules or having a shootout.

Agree. Seems to me OT was longer at one time.

Al DeFlorio
Agree. Seems to me OT was longer at one time.

OT was ten minutes until the 89-90 season. The ice was resurfaced prior to OT and, as I recall, there was a full intermission.

Give My Regards

Al DeFlorio
Agree. Seems to me OT was longer at one time.

OT was ten minutes until the 89-90 season. The ice was resurfaced prior to OT and, as I recall, there was a full intermission.

Better that way, IMO. Just like the lacrosse OT procedure from the '70s (total goals, not sudden victory) was better.

Al DeFlorio

Give My Regards

Al DeFlorio
Agree. Seems to me OT was longer at one time.

OT was ten minutes until the 89-90 season. The ice was resurfaced prior to OT and, as I recall, there was a full intermission.

Better that way, IMO. Just like the lacrosse OT procedure from the '70s (total goals, not sudden victory) was better.

I agree. And if the league really has to have a shootout, I think a longer OT should be a part of that deal. Same goes for the NHL... I don't like the shootout, but if you're going to have it, at least reduce the chances of games ending that way!

Or heck, why not replace the shootout with a skating relay race? If you're going to determine the whole game based on how three people do on one specific skill, why does that skill have to be shooting in particular?

Since CU tends to have a shortage of players who "finish"....It would seem to me that going to a shootout would not benefit The Red..Such a rule would benefit the teams who tend to gather the blue chip offensive players.

redice
Since CU tends to have a shortage of players who "finish"...

That's what she said?

ftyuv

Al DeFlorio

Give My Regards

Al DeFlorio
Agree. Seems to me OT was longer at one time.

OT was ten minutes until the 89-90 season. The ice was resurfaced prior to OT and, as I recall, there was a full intermission.

Better that way, IMO. Just like the lacrosse OT procedure from the '70s (total goals, not sudden victory) was better.

I agree. And if the league really has to have a shootout, I think a longer OT should be a part of that deal. Same goes for the NHL... I don't like the shootout, but if you're going to have it, at least reduce the chances of games ending that way!

Or heck, why not replace the shootout with a skating relay race? If you're going to determine the whole game based on how three people do on one specific skill, why does that skill have to be shooting in particular?

Then I would vote for the "shooting at targets" event from the NHL All-Star game. It has been a while, but don't they get 10 pucks to hit the upper and lower corners?

Imagine the marketing opportunities for the Athletic departments and the logos that they could put on those "bull's eyes".

Rita

ftyuv

Al DeFlorio

Give My Regards

Al DeFlorio
Agree. Seems to me OT was longer at one time.

OT was ten minutes until the 89-90 season. The ice was resurfaced prior to OT and, as I recall, there was a full intermission.

Better that way, IMO. Just like the lacrosse OT procedure from the '70s (total goals, not sudden victory) was better.

I agree. And if the league really has to have a shootout, I think a longer OT should be a part of that deal. Same goes for the NHL... I don't like the shootout, but if you're going to have it, at least reduce the chances of games ending that way!

Or heck, why not replace the shootout with a skating relay race? If you're going to determine the whole game based on how three people do on one specific skill, why does that skill have to be shooting in particular?

Then I would vote for the "shooting at targets" event from the NHL All-Star game. It has been a while, but don't they get 10 pucks to hit the upper and lower corners?

Imagine the marketing opportunities for the Athletic departments and the logos that they could put on those "bull's eyes".

Triple lutzes.

Al DeFlorio

Rita

ftyuv

Al DeFlorio

Give My Regards

Al DeFlorio
Agree. Seems to me OT was longer at one time.

OT was ten minutes until the 89-90 season. The ice was resurfaced prior to OT and, as I recall, there was a full intermission.

Better that way, IMO. Just like the lacrosse OT procedure from the '70s (total goals, not sudden victory) was better.

I agree. And if the league really has to have a shootout, I think a longer OT should be a part of that deal. Same goes for the NHL... I don't like the shootout, but if you're going to have it, at least reduce the chances of games ending that way!

Or heck, why not replace the shootout with a skating relay race? If you're going to determine the whole game based on how three people do on one specific skill, why does that skill have to be shooting in particular?

Then I would vote for the "shooting at targets" event from the NHL All-Star game. It has been a while, but don't they get 10 pucks to hit the upper and lower corners?

Imagine the marketing opportunities for the Athletic departments and the logos that they could put on those "bull's eyes".

Triple lutzes.

It's 8 shots at four targets.

Jim Hyla
NHL.com starts the discussion. First a change in OT?

They've never bothered me, but according to the article, most of the players don't want ties.

Chis Higgins
Of the players questioned, only Florida Panther Chris Higgins (Yale) was content with the status quo.

Rita

ftyuv

Al DeFlorio

Give My Regards

Al DeFlorio
Agree. Seems to me OT was longer at one time.

OT was ten minutes until the 89-90 season. The ice was resurfaced prior to OT and, as I recall, there was a full intermission.

Better that way, IMO. Just like the lacrosse OT procedure from the '70s (total goals, not sudden victory) was better.

I agree. And if the league really has to have a shootout, I think a longer OT should be a part of that deal. Same goes for the NHL... I don't like the shootout, but if you're going to have it, at least reduce the chances of games ending that way!

Or heck, why not replace the shootout with a skating relay race? If you're going to determine the whole game based on how three people do on one specific skill, why does that skill have to be shooting in particular?

Then I would vote for the "shooting at targets" event from the NHL All-Star game. It has been a while, but don't they get 10 pucks to hit the upper and lower corners?

Imagine the marketing opportunities for the Athletic departments and the logos that they could put on those "bull's eyes".

I don't know why but "Pants Off, Dance Off" was the first thing that came to mind. But really, with another group of hockey fans, we were discussing the "Pose Off" as a way to break a tie. This discussion stemmed from the whole Carey Price "posing" post-win over the Penguins and then Marc Andre Fleury returning the pose after they beat Montreal a few days later.

judy

Rita

ftyuv

Al DeFlorio

Give My Regards

Al DeFlorio
Agree. Seems to me OT was longer at one time.

OT was ten minutes until the 89-90 season. The ice was resurfaced prior to OT and, as I recall, there was a full intermission.

Better that way, IMO. Just like the lacrosse OT procedure from the '70s (total goals, not sudden victory) was better.

I agree. And if the league really has to have a shootout, I think a longer OT should be a part of that deal. Same goes for the NHL... I don't like the shootout, but if you're going to have it, at least reduce the chances of games ending that way!

Or heck, why not replace the shootout with a skating relay race? If you're going to determine the whole game based on how three people do on one specific skill, why does that skill have to be shooting in particular?

Then I would vote for the "shooting at targets" event from the NHL All-Star game. It has been a while, but don't they get 10 pucks to hit the upper and lower corners?

Imagine the marketing opportunities for the Athletic departments and the logos that they could put on those "bull's eyes".

I don't know why but "Pants Off, Dance Off" was the first thing that came to mind. But really, with another group of hockey fans, we were discussing the "Pose Off" as a way to break a tie. This discussion stemmed from the whole Carey Price "posing" post-win over the Penguins and then Marc Andre Fleury returning the pose after they beat Montreal a few days later.

Can the ladies watching the game, rather than the coaches, pick the 5 players from each team to be in the first round of the "Pants Off, Dance Off"? That might be a good reason to get one of those fancy smart phones so I could instantly register my votes.

ftyuv
Or heck, why not replace the shootout with a skating relay race? If you're going to determine the whole game based on how three people do on one specific skill, why does that skill have to be shooting in particular?

Even better, you could have a whole series of events. Wait that would take too long. How 'bout this? Take all of the skills from a skills contest (and maybe make up some more), put each one on a piece of paper or a lottery ball. As soon as OT ends, we have a big ceremony where we randomly choose which skill will decide the contest. Will the home team have an advantage with their sharp shooters? Or will the speed of the visitors give them an advantage? No one knows until our lovely hostess reads out the selection...

KeithK

ftyuv
Or heck, why not replace the shootout with a skating relay race? If you're going to determine the whole game based on how three people do on one specific skill, why does that skill have to be shooting in particular?

Even better, you could have a whole series of events. Wait that would take too long. How 'bout this? Take all of the skills from a skills contest (and maybe make up some more), put each one on a piece of paper or a lottery ball. As soon as OT ends, we have a big ceremony where we randomly choose which skill will decide the contest. Will the home team have an advantage with their sharp shooters? Or will the speed of the visitors give them an advantage? No one knows until our lovely hostess reads out the selection...

I like the idea of using multiple skills to settle the game. If only there were some way to combine skating, shooting, passing, positional plays, physical grit, teamwork, and other factors.

ftyuv

KeithK

ftyuv
Or heck, why not replace the shootout with a skating relay race? If you're going to determine the whole game based on how three people do on one specific skill, why does that skill have to be shooting in particular?

Even better, you could have a whole series of events. Wait that would take too long. How 'bout this? Take all of the skills from a skills contest (and maybe make up some more), put each one on a piece of paper or a lottery ball. As soon as OT ends, we have a big ceremony where we randomly choose which skill will decide the contest. Will the home team have an advantage with their sharp shooters? Or will the speed of the visitors give them an advantage? No one knows until our lovely hostess reads out the selection...

I like the idea of using multiple skills to settle the game. If only there were some way to combine skating, shooting, passing, positional plays, physical grit, teamwork, and other factors.

Yes, it's called playing the game until someone scores the winning goal....Looks like we've come full circle.

ftyuv

KeithK

ftyuv
Or heck, why not replace the shootout with a skating relay race? If you're going to determine the whole game based on how three people do on one specific skill, why does that skill have to be shooting in particular?

Even better, you could have a whole series of events. Wait that would take too long. How 'bout this? Take all of the skills from a skills contest (and maybe make up some more), put each one on a piece of paper or a lottery ball. As soon as OT ends, we have a big ceremony where we randomly choose which skill will decide the contest. Will the home team have an advantage with their sharp shooters? Or will the speed of the visitors give them an advantage? No one knows until our lovely hostess reads out the selection...

I like the idea of using multiple skills to settle the game. If only there were some way to combine skating, shooting, passing, positional plays, physical grit, teamwork, and other factors.

I think you're onto something, Keith! We just need an edgy name for the process to catch the crowd's attention. A name that conveys the excitement with a strong hint of danger, What if we call it "Sudden Death?"

David Harding

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KeithK

ftyuv
Or heck, why not replace the shootout with a skating relay race? If you're going to determine the whole game based on how three people do on one specific skill, why does that skill have to be shooting in particular?

Even better, you could have a whole series of events. Wait that would take too long. How 'bout this? Take all of the skills from a skills contest (and maybe make up some more), put each one on a piece of paper or a lottery ball. As soon as OT ends, we have a big ceremony where we randomly choose which skill will decide the contest. Will the home team have an advantage with their sharp shooters? Or will the speed of the visitors give them an advantage? No one knows until our lovely hostess reads out the selection...

I like the idea of using multiple skills to settle the game. If only there were some way to combine skating, shooting, passing, positional plays, physical grit, teamwork, and other factors.

I think you're onto something, Keith! We just need an edgy name for the process to catch the crowd's attention. A name that conveys the excitement with a strong hint of danger, What if we call it "Sudden Death?"

Not in this day and age. I propose "Sudden Life".

David Harding

ftyuv

KeithK

ftyuv
Or heck, why not replace the shootout with a skating relay race? If you're going to determine the whole game based on how three people do on one specific skill, why does that skill have to be shooting in particular?

Even better, you could have a whole series of events. Wait that would take too long. How 'bout this? Take all of the skills from a skills contest (and maybe make up some more), put each one on a piece of paper or a lottery ball. As soon as OT ends, we have a big ceremony where we randomly choose which skill will decide the contest. Will the home team have an advantage with their sharp shooters? Or will the speed of the visitors give them an advantage? No one knows until our lovely hostess reads out the selection...

I like the idea of using multiple skills to settle the game. If only there were some way to combine skating, shooting, passing, positional plays, physical grit, teamwork, and other factors.

I think you're onto something, ftyuv! We just need an edgy name for the process to catch the crowd's attention. A name that conveys the excitement with a strong hint of danger, What if we call it "Sudden Death?"

fyp!

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David Harding

ftyuv

KeithK

ftyuv
Or heck, why not replace the shootout with a skating relay race? If you're going to determine the whole game based on how three people do on one specific skill, why does that skill have to be shooting in particular?

Even better, you could have a whole series of events. Wait that would take too long. How 'bout this? Take all of the skills from a skills contest (and maybe make up some more), put each one on a piece of paper or a lottery ball. As soon as OT ends, we have a big ceremony where we randomly choose which skill will decide the contest. Will the home team have an advantage with their sharp shooters? Or will the speed of the visitors give them an advantage? No one knows until our lovely hostess reads out the selection...

I like the idea of using multiple skills to settle the game. If only there were some way to combine skating, shooting, passing, positional plays, physical grit, teamwork, and other factors.

I think you're onto something, ftyuv! We just need an edgy name for the process to catch the crowd's attention. A name that conveys the excitement with a strong hint of danger, What if we call it "Sudden Death?"

fyp!

It would never work! First the name, really sudden death? Half the audience would be appalled, the would walk out or faint rather than endure exposure to such an concept, you know how sensitive hockey fans are. What about the players, they did their best for the required time why would be bruise their sensitive egos by making them play more and possibly lose? No, everybody should get a trophy and feel good about themselves.

What were you thinking? Next you will want players to collide with each other at great velocity risking contact with the hard ice.

Towerroad

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David Harding

ftyuv

KeithK

ftyuv
Or heck, why not replace the shootout with a skating relay race? If you're going to determine the whole game based on how three people do on one specific skill, why does that skill have to be shooting in particular?

Even better, you could have a whole series of events. Wait that would take too long. How 'bout this? Take all of the skills from a skills contest (and maybe make up some more), put each one on a piece of paper or a lottery ball. As soon as OT ends, we have a big ceremony where we randomly choose which skill will decide the contest. Will the home team have an advantage with their sharp shooters? Or will the speed of the visitors give them an advantage? No one knows until our lovely hostess reads out the selection...

I like the idea of using multiple skills to settle the game. If only there were some way to combine skating, shooting, passing, positional plays, physical grit, teamwork, and other factors.

I think you're onto something, ftyuv! We just need an edgy name for the process to catch the crowd's attention. A name that conveys the excitement with a strong hint of danger, What if we call it "Sudden Death?"

fyp!

It would never work! First the name, really sudden death? Half the audience would be appalled, the would walk out or faint rather than endure exposure to such an concept, you know how sensitive hockey fans are. What about the players, they did their best for the required time why would be bruise their sensitive egos by making them play more and possibly lose? No, everybody should get a trophy and feel good about themselves.

What were you thinking? Next you will want players to collide with each other at great velocity risking contact with the hard ice.

Golden Goal?

Nah, it's been done.

Towerroad

ftyuv

David Harding

ftyuv

KeithK

ftyuv
Or heck, why not replace the shootout with a skating relay race? If you're going to determine the whole game based on how three people do on one specific skill, why does that skill have to be shooting in particular?

Even better, you could have a whole series of events. Wait that would take too long. How 'bout this? Take all of the skills from a skills contest (and maybe make up some more), put each one on a piece of paper or a lottery ball. As soon as OT ends, we have a big ceremony where we randomly choose which skill will decide the contest. Will the home team have an advantage with their sharp shooters? Or will the speed of the visitors give them an advantage? No one knows until our lovely hostess reads out the selection...

I like the idea of using multiple skills to settle the game. If only there were some way to combine skating, shooting, passing, positional plays, physical grit, teamwork, and other factors.

I think you're onto something, ftyuv! We just need an edgy name for the process to catch the crowd's attention. A name that conveys the excitement with a strong hint of danger, What if we call it "Sudden Death?"

fyp!

It would never work! First the name, really sudden death? Half the audience would be appalled, the would walk out or faint rather than endure exposure to such an concept, you know how sensitive hockey fans are. What about the players, they did their best for the required time why would be bruise their sensitive egos by making them play more and possibly lose? No, everybody should get a trophy and feel good about themselves.

What were you thinking? Next you will want players to collide with each other at great velocity risking contact with the hard ice.

What about a system where the sudden death goes on until both teams have scored, but the official win goes to the team that scores first? So the losers would be all like, "oh man, they won", but then they'd be like, "officially, sure, but we got the last goal!"

Towerroad

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David Harding

ftyuv

KeithK

ftyuv
Or heck, why not replace the shootout with a skating relay race? If you're going to determine the whole game based on how three people do on one specific skill, why does that skill have to be shooting in particular?

Even better, you could have a whole series of events. Wait that would take too long. How 'bout this? Take all of the skills from a skills contest (and maybe make up some more), put each one on a piece of paper or a lottery ball. As soon as OT ends, we have a big ceremony where we randomly choose which skill will decide the contest. Will the home team have an advantage with their sharp shooters? Or will the speed of the visitors give them an advantage? No one knows until our lovely hostess reads out the selection...

I like the idea of using multiple skills to settle the game. If only there were some way to combine skating, shooting, passing, positional plays, physical grit, teamwork, and other factors.

I think you're onto something, ftyuv! We just need an edgy name for the process to catch the crowd's attention. A name that conveys the excitement with a strong hint of danger, What if we call it "Sudden Death?"

fyp!

It would never work! First the name, really sudden death? Half the audience would be appalled, the would walk out or faint rather than endure exposure to such an concept, you know how sensitive hockey fans are. What about the players, they did their best for the required time why would be bruise their sensitive egos by making them play more and possibly lose? No, everybody should get a trophy and feel good about themselves.

What were you thinking? Next you will want players to collide with each other at great velocity risking contact with the hard ice.

You do know that the NCAA uses the phrase "Sudden Victory" in sports such as wrestling, lacrosse, and soccer, right? It's been called that for at the very least 10 years, usually in official publications and media coverage. Wikipedia places the phrase back at least to Curt Gowdy in 1971.

RichH

Towerroad

ftyuv

David Harding

ftyuv

KeithK

ftyuv
Or heck, why not replace the shootout with a skating relay race? If you're going to determine the whole game based on how three people do on one specific skill, why does that skill have to be shooting in particular?

Even better, you could have a whole series of events. Wait that would take too long. How 'bout this? Take all of the skills from a skills contest (and maybe make up some more), put each one on a piece of paper or a lottery ball. As soon as OT ends, we have a big ceremony where we randomly choose which skill will decide the contest. Will the home team have an advantage with their sharp shooters? Or will the speed of the visitors give them an advantage? No one knows until our lovely hostess reads out the selection...

I like the idea of using multiple skills to settle the game. If only there were some way to combine skating, shooting, passing, positional plays, physical grit, teamwork, and other factors.

I think you're onto something, ftyuv! We just need an edgy name for the process to catch the crowd's attention. A name that conveys the excitement with a strong hint of danger, What if we call it "Sudden Death?"

fyp!

It would never work! First the name, really sudden death? Half the audience would be appalled, the would walk out or faint rather than endure exposure to such an concept, you know how sensitive hockey fans are. What about the players, they did their best for the required time why would be bruise their sensitive egos by making them play more and possibly lose? No, everybody should get a trophy and feel good about themselves.

What were you thinking? Next you will want players to collide with each other at great velocity risking contact with the hard ice.

You do know that the NCAA uses the phrase "Sudden Victory" in sports such as wrestling, lacrosse, and soccer, right? It's been called that for at the very least 10 years, usually in official publications and media coverage. Wikipedia places the phrase back at least to Curt Gowdy in 1971.

GAH. I HATE "sudden victory". Yes, I know the NCAA uses it, but I don't have to like it.

Towerroad
What about the players, they did their best for the required time why would be bruise their sensitive egos by making them play more and possibly lose? No, everybody should get a trophy and feel good about themselves.

What a grand idea. I think the NHL should mandate that every June Lord Stanley's cup be engraved with the names of everyone who played in the NHL that season!

RichH

Towerroad

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David Harding

ftyuv

KeithK

ftyuv
Or heck, why not replace the shootout with a skating relay race? If you're going to determine the whole game based on how three people do on one specific skill, why does that skill have to be shooting in particular?

Even better, you could have a whole series of events. Wait that would take too long. How 'bout this? Take all of the skills from a skills contest (and maybe make up some more), put each one on a piece of paper or a lottery ball. As soon as OT ends, we have a big ceremony where we randomly choose which skill will decide the contest. Will the home team have an advantage with their sharp shooters? Or will the speed of the visitors give them an advantage? No one knows until our lovely hostess reads out the selection...

I like the idea of using multiple skills to settle the game. If only there were some way to combine skating, shooting, passing, positional plays, physical grit, teamwork, and other factors.

I think you're onto something, ftyuv! We just need an edgy name for the process to catch the crowd's attention. A name that conveys the excitement with a strong hint of danger, What if we call it "Sudden Death?"

fyp!

It would never work! First the name, really sudden death? Half the audience would be appalled, the would walk out or faint rather than endure exposure to such an concept, you know how sensitive hockey fans are. What about the players, they did their best for the required time why would be bruise their sensitive egos by making them play more and possibly lose? No, everybody should get a trophy and feel good about themselves.

What were you thinking? Next you will want players to collide with each other at great velocity risking contact with the hard ice.

You do know that the NCAA uses the phrase "Sudden Victory" in sports such as wrestling, lacrosse, and soccer, right? It's been called that for at the very least 10 years, usually in official publications and media coverage. Wikipedia places the phrase back at least to Curt Gowdy in 1971.

Really, Victory, do we have to keep using these militaristic terms. Doesn't that mean that there is a vanquished? How do you think that makes them feel? Isn't there a way that we can all win? And by the way what about this scoring business, that is so sexist can't we be granted a karma by our earth mother?

Towerroad
Really, Victory, do we have to keep using these militaristic terms. Doesn't that mean that there is a vanquished? How do you think that makes them feel? Isn't there a way that we can all win?

Well, no, but if the game ends in a TIE, then at least no one loses...

Give My Regards

Towerroad
Really, Victory, do we have to keep using these militaristic terms. Doesn't that mean that there is a vanquished? How do you think that makes them feel? Isn't there a way that we can all win?

Well, no, but if the game ends in a TIE, then at least no one loses...

Isn't that really what we all want. All this striving and competition is so unpleasant don't we all just want to share with each other.

Via ECAC website NCAA article on NHL experimenting on rule changes. Particular mention of the new Icing rule.

Something I realized the other day while discussing the new rule changes. Recall the debate we had when BU pulled their goalie when they were up 5v3 vs. Cornell. One of the major risks is that, without icing, the defense has open reign to shoot at the open net. If icing also applies to penalty kills, suddenly pulling a goalie on a power play is much less risky.