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Interesting: WCHA and CHA auto berths

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Interesting: WCHA and CHA auto berths
Posted by: Cop at Lynah (---)
Date: February 06, 2003 07:09AM

Interesting article on WCHA and CHA auto bids to the tournament.

[insidecollegehockey.com]
 
Re: Interesting: WCHA and CHA auto berths
Posted by: adamw (---)
Date: February 06, 2003 09:36AM

Re: Interesting: WCHA and CHA auto berths
Posted by: ugarte (63.94.240.---)
Date: February 06, 2003 10:00AM

It is as if all of the huge D1 programs that hemmorhage money want to spoil the fun of 1-big-sport schools likes Clarkson and SCSU. Travesty.

 
Re: Interesting: WCHA and CHA auto berths
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (---)
Date: February 06, 2003 10:01AM

Is there not a college hockey body with some discretion in determining who gets autobids? I.e., hockey used to let in RS champions quasi-automatically with the Colorado College rule; can they not also give the WCHA and CHA champions such bids as well? I.e., the NCAA hands them four "official" autobids for the ECAC, HE, MAAC, and CCHA, and they add two more unofficial autobids. Some might argue against extending this courtesy to CHA, but IMHO if the MAAC "deserves" an auto-bid, so does the stronger CHA, not to mention that one of the points of going to sixteen teams was to let the MAAC and CHA champions in without squeezing out any deserving at-large contestants. (I.e., #13 and #14 may complain, but three years ago they wouldn't have got it anyway.)

 
Re: Interesting: WCHA and CHA auto berths
Posted by: Josh '99 (207.10.33.---)
Date: February 06, 2003 10:05AM

Shouldn't the link from the front page read "two of the SIX Division I conferences"?

 
Re: Interesting: WCHA and CHA auto berths
Posted by: Keith K (---)
Date: February 06, 2003 11:22AM

Typical example of hockey being very much a special case in the NC$$. When you try to shoehorn the basketball rules on to hockey it just doesn't work. The thought of the WCHA, the oldest conference in hockey, losing its autobid on a meaningless technicality is ludicrous. Though it would be funny to see the wailing in Minnesota. :-D
 
Re: Interesting: WCHA and CHA auto berths
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---)
Date: February 06, 2003 11:24AM

What's even funnier, is how many WCHA fans would be saying this is a great idea if it only affected the CHA.
 
Re: Interesting: WCHA and CHA auto berths
Posted by: Greg Berge (---)
Date: February 06, 2003 02:08PM

You hit the nail on the head, Delta. You can bet the WCHA and HE fans would see nothing wrong with definitions of legitimacy that favor their conferences.

Although the ECAC isn't affected today, you can also bet that someday our D-1 status will be jeopardized by not playing the NCAA professional athlete game, and then the whole ECAC could be sunk.
 
Re: Interesting: WCHA and CHA auto berths
Posted by: Tub(a) (132.236.216.---)
Date: February 06, 2003 07:27PM

Re: Interesting: WCHA and CHA auto berths
Posted by: adamw (---)
Date: February 06, 2003 07:59PM

What's up with all this promotion of INCH? Where's the loyalty?

[www.uscho.com]
 
Re: Interesting: WCHA and CHA auto berths
Posted by: Tub(a) (---)
Date: February 06, 2003 08:30PM

haha, sorry, I noticed the INCH story first. Your article told us more anyways :)

 
Re: Interesting: WCHA and CHA auto berths
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---)
Date: February 06, 2003 09:19PM

To be fair, the INCH story was up first... takes time to write quality, not so much time to just write some content into a text editor.
 
Re: Interesting: WCHA and CHA auto berths
Posted by: Scott Kominkiewicz '84 (---)
Date: February 06, 2003 11:38PM

you can also bet that someday our D-1 status will be jeopardized by not playing the NCAA professional athlete game,

It already has in another sport. Just go back to 1982 when all the Ivies were reclassified D-1AA in football. That was a real smack in the face for a conference whose teams had the deepest roots in the sport. (That still p*sses me off. :-( )

As a side note, Yale had large enough attendance numbers to stay D-1A, but they chose to go with rest of the Ivies to preserve the league.
 
Re: Interesting: WCHA and CHA auto berths
Posted by: bigred apple (---)
Date: February 07, 2003 02:09AM

They wouldn't have kept up the attendance numbers if they ran weekly scrimmages or started losing by 50 every week to Big East teams. Yale wasn't about to start trying to compete with Penn State, so I think they had to come with us.
 
Re: Interesting: WCHA and CHA auto berths
Posted by: Scott Kominkiewicz '84 (---)
Date: February 07, 2003 03:12PM

The point that I was trying to make was that the NCAA unceremoniously schtupped the Ivy League for not playing the "NCAA professional athlete game" as Greg noted.

As for Yale then, they were pretty damn good. If I'm not mistaken, they were ranked in the top 20 at one point in the 1981 season. I remember that they were undefeated late in that season when they came to Ithaca to play us on a snowy homecoming afternoon. We were up by 10 or 20 points at halftime, but we unfortunately lost in the 4th quarter.

As another testimony to Yale's status in the football world that year, Eli RB Rich Diana was a Heisman finalist.

Sorry for the digression, but I think Greg is right on in his analysis. The top 25 in NCAA football and basketball are America's alternate major leagues. I hope the same doesn't happen in hockey.
 
Re: Interesting: WCHA and CHA auto berths
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: April 19, 2003 01:11AM

To revive an old topic, it was posted on INCH today that the WCHA and CHA have been grandfathered in by a vote of 40-4 (1 abstaining, 1 absent) - [www.insidecollegehockey.com]

Sorry, Adam, I'd post the USCHO story, but there still isn't one yet... I'm sure it'll be wonderful when it comes out though :-D, and I don't blame the columnists for taking a break
 
Re: Interesting: WCHA and CHA auto berths
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: April 19, 2003 11:42AM

[uscho.com]

Thanks Adam :-)
 
Re: Interesting: WCHA and CHA auto berths
Posted by: Robb (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: April 21, 2003 08:07AM

OK - who were the four jokers who voted against an autobid for the WCHA? That's freakin funny!!!! laugh

 
Re: Interesting: WCHA and CHA auto berths
Posted by: Will (128.253.12.---)
Date: April 21, 2003 01:09PM

Maybe they were just voting against an autobid for the CHA. :-P

 
Re: Interesting: WCHA and CHA auto berths
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (---.loyno.edu)
Date: April 21, 2003 02:38PM


One of the guys who got revenge on Volonnino wrote:
Maybe they were just voting against an autobid for the CHA. :-P
Like the top brass at the NCAA know the difference between the WCHA and the CHA.

 
Re: Interesting: WCHA and CHA auto berths
Posted by: rhovorka (---.stny.rr.com)
Date: April 21, 2003 04:47PM

Speaking of USCHO articles, I noticed this one:
[uscho.com]

Where both Adam and John are both credited as columnists. Adam has done a great job for years with USCHO. Congratulations to John for this new "title." Great job to both of them for continuing to fight for the cause.
 

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