Cornell football 2024

Cornell is picked to finish 7th in preseason Ivy football poll.

dbilmes
Cornell is picked to finish 7th in preseason Ivy football poll.

If the current recruiting pace can continue, Cornell has a good future going forward.

We play our Ivy opponents in order of opponent quality, best first, worst last: Our first Ivy game is versus #1 Ivy pick Yale, our second game is against #2 pick Harvard ... we end with #8 Columbia. Not until the season finale do we play a team rated lower than us. It may be a measure of confidence in the new regime of coach and athletic director that Cornell's 7th place pick is not a tie for 7th, but 7th outright. Somewhere between #rolltide and #redtide.

Pick To  Order 
Finish   CU Plays  Opponent
1        1         Yale 9/28 Homecoming
2        2         Harvard 10/11 
3        5         Penn 
4T       4         Princeton 11/2  
4T       6         Dartmouth
6        3         Brown 
7        --        Cornell
8        7         @ Columbia 11/23

Also the only ranked FCS team on our schedule, #16 Albany, is the third game.

And for the subset of Cornell fans who like both football and hockey, Cornell-Columbia football and Cornell-Marist, no, sorry, Cornell-Quinnipiac hockey (I forgot already) are a week apart in NYC.

I know the Ivy League rearranged the football schedule in the last decade to put "traditional rivalries" as the final game -- translation: Cornell, Columbia, Brown were unlikely to be in the hunt the last week, so why pair them against the commonly top teams Harvard Yale Princeton often Penn in the finale. It's not like, say, Columbia and Brown play a final football game then a week later there's a key squash Lions-Bears raquets match thanksgiving weekend and thousands are displeased.

The quirk that screws over Cornell is we play hockey at MSG within a week of the at-Columbia every even year. Many football fanatics don't care that much about ice hockey, and hockey fanatics don't care about football that much. For those of us who like many Cornell sports, it's a killer when the games are back to back weeks in NYC every second year. It's hard to get the rest of your non-Cornell family to think about back-to-back events.

billhoward
It may be a measure of confidence in the new regime of coach and athletic director that Cornell's 7th place pick is not a tie for 7th, but 7th outright.

I'm still amazed that during the Archer era Cornell never finished dead last, untied, in 8th place.

nyc94

billhoward
It may be a measure of confidence in the new regime of coach and athletic director that Cornell's 7th place pick is not a tie for 7th, but 7th outright.

I'm still amazed that during the Archer era Cornell never finished dead last, untied, in 8th place.

[All in unison]: It's the system.

The 2024-25 football roster has been updated with the new incoming recruits, Cornell has a transfer, QB Devin Page 6'4" 195 from Penn who was recruited by Dan Swanstrom when he was there. He joins his brother 6'7" 310 OT Dylan Page now at Cornell. Devin Page had offers from Brown, Bucknell, Colgate, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Fordham and Yale before he committed to Penn,

Ken711
The 2024-25 football roster has been updated with the new incoming recruits, Cornell has a transfer, QB Devin Page 6'4" 195 from Penn who was recruited by Dan Swanstrom when he was there. He joins his brother 6'7" 310 OT Dylan Page now at Cornell. Devin Page had offers from Brown, Bucknell, Colgate, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Fordham and Yale before he committed to Penn,

We now have seven quarterbacks this year, three of which are frosh.

Swampy

Ken711
The 2024-25 football roster has been updated with the new incoming recruits, Cornell has a transfer, QB Devin Page 6'4" 195 from Penn who was recruited by Dan Swanstrom when he was there. He joins his brother 6'7" 310 OT Dylan Page now at Cornell. Devin Page had offers from Brown, Bucknell, Colgate, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Fordham and Yale before he committed to Penn,

We now have seven quarterbacks this year, three of which are frosh.

Yes. They needed more QB's in this class and they have more.

Swampy

Ken711
The 2024-25 football roster has been updated with the new incoming recruits, Cornell has a transfer, QB Devin Page 6'4" 195 from Penn who was recruited by Dan Swanstrom when he was there. He joins his brother 6'7" 310 OT Dylan Page now at Cornell. Devin Page had offers from Brown, Bucknell, Colgate, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Fordham and Yale before he committed to Penn,

We now have seven quarterbacks this year, three of which are frosh.

Seven seems like a lot.

Clear eyes, full hearts.

mike1960

Swampy

Ken711
The 2024-25 football roster has been updated with the new incoming recruits, Cornell has a transfer, QB Devin Page 6'4" 195 from Penn who was recruited by Dan Swanstrom when he was there. He joins his brother 6'7" 310 OT Dylan Page now at Cornell. Devin Page had offers from Brown, Bucknell, Colgate, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Fordham and Yale before he committed to Penn,

We now have seven quarterbacks this year, three of which are frosh.

Seven seems like a lot.

Clear eyes, full hearts.

Brown has 8 QBs on their roster.
[brownbears.com]

Ken711
Devin Page had offers from Brown, Bucknell, Colgate, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Fordham and Yale before he committed to Penn,

Well, we know Devin can do the work academically.

Swampy
We now have seven quarterbacks this year, three of which are frosh.

Going to be one heck of a trick play. It will involve a rollout and more than one pass.

billhoward

Swampy
We now have seven quarterbacks this year, three of which are frosh.

Going to be one heck of a trick play. It will involve a rollout and more than one pass.

And seven very quick and brutal tackles.

Cornell football season is almost here and any updates on fall practice? Is the team planning any pre-season scrimmages? Meanwhile our first game is September 21st against Colgate who will have a whopping three games under their belt prior to playing the Big Red.

Local Motion
Cornell football season is almost here and any updates on fall practice? Is the team planning any pre-season scrimmages? Meanwhile our first game is September 21st against Colgate who will have a whopping three games under their belt prior to playing the Big Red.

Projected to finish in the top-8 of the Ivy League!

For Cornell lineman Hunter Nourzad made the final NFL Kansas City Chiefs 53 man roster. Will a backup guard and center.

Ken711
For Cornell lineman Hunter Nourzad made the final NFL Kansas City Chiefs 53 man roster. Will a backup guard and center.

Former Cornell safety Jalyx Hunt made the Eagles roster; he was switched to DL after transferring to Houston Christian during the pandemic.

ugarte

Ken711
For Cornell lineman Hunter Nourzad made the final NFL Kansas City Chiefs 53 man roster. Will a backup guard and center.

Former Cornell safety Jalyx Hunt made the Eagles roster; he was switched to DL after transferring to Houston Christian during the pandemic.

Thanks for that find. Good luck to Jalyx as well.

I was reading the Cornell Daily Sun, but they are so busy reporting protests regarding a war 6,000 miles away, no time to discuss Big Red sports I guess.

I want to keep out of the politics. With that said any updates on Big Red football, soccer, cross-country, and other fall sports on campus?

I'll open with Cornell soccer (football in the rest of the world) opens this Saturday at home vs. Marist at 5:00 pm. Meanwhile women's soccer tied Colgate last weekend.

The women’s hockey team posted pics from practice on their instagram the other day, which means that my attention is already focused on hockey haha.

I’m excited for the soccer season as well, that’s basically the one fall sport that I watch here and I think the team could be pretty good this year, hopefully sneaking into the NCAA tourney.

The Daily Sun has an interview with Coach Swanstrom

CAS
The Daily Sun has an interview with Coach Swanstrom

[cornellsun.com]

Part 1 of the Sun’s interview with Coach
Swanstrom was published earlier this week.

Great 2-part interview w/ Coach Swanstrom! The last few quotes in the article are quite telling and an indictment of the last coaching regime. He is explaining the difference between taking over at Penn as an OC and now as a Head Coach at Cornell-"This team's got more work to do. I think there's some want to and there's some passion, but the collective group has no clue. Like, that group at Penn was well trained, they were in shape. They were ready to compete. We have much further to go."

Boy, that doesn't give me a good feeling about this year's team/outcomes. The administration let the Archer debacle go on for too long, now Swanstrom really will need 2-3 years to get this going in the right direction. Lack of facilities, run down stadium, and general apathy have made it quite easy for all the opposing Ivy coaches to negatively recruit us, leaving us with sub-par recruiting classes for a while now. This is changing under the new coaching staff, and the '28 and '29 grad class recruits look outstanding. He needs all the help he can get from the admins in order to bring Big Red football back to where it belongs, and not an afterthought on campus as compared to the the other men's teams on the Hill!

big29red
Great 2-part interview w/ Coach Swanstrom! The last few quotes in the article are quite telling and an indictment of the last coaching regime. He is explaining the difference between taking over at Penn as an OC and now as a Head Coach at Cornell-"This team's got more work to do. I think there's some want to and there's some passion, but the collective group has no clue. Like, that group at Penn was well trained, they were in shape. They were ready to compete. We have much further to go."

Boy, that doesn't give me a good feeling about this year's team/outcomes. The administration let the Archer debacle go on for too long, now Swanstrom really will need 2-3 years to get this going in the right direction. Lack of facilities, run down stadium, and general apathy have made it quite easy for all the opposing Ivy coaches to negatively recruit us, leaving us with sub-par recruiting classes for a while now. This is changing under the new coaching staff, and the '28 and '29 grad class recruits look outstanding. He needs all the help he can get from the admins in order to bring Big Red football back to where it belongs, and not an afterthought on campus as compared to the the other men's teams on the Hill!

In regards to training, one important but under the radar hiring was a strength and conditioning coach specifically for football. That should go a long way towards improving the team in matchups with the bigger and stronger players from the top tier Ivy teams. I'm not expecting a miracle and a quick turnaround, but this coach and staff is definitely putting the pieces in place for the future. With the Meinig field house to built, that should certainly help facility wise with recruiting. I agree on the Archer era lasting well past his expire date, thanks Andy. But again, I'm excited for the future of this football program, for the first time in over a decade!

Agree on all points Ken!

big29red
Great 2-part interview w/ Coach Swanstrom! The last few quotes in the article are quite telling and an indictment of the last coaching regime. He is explaining the difference between taking over at Penn as an OC and now as a Head Coach at Cornell-"This team's got more work to do. I think there's some want to and there's some passion, but the collective group has no clue. Like, that group at Penn was well trained, they were in shape. They were ready to compete. We have much further to go."

Boy, that doesn't give me a good feeling about this year's team/outcomes. The administration let the Archer debacle go on for too long, now Swanstrom really will need 2-3 years to get this going in the right direction. Lack of facilities, run down stadium, and general apathy have made it quite easy for all the opposing Ivy coaches to negatively recruit us, leaving us with sub-par recruiting classes for a while now. This is changing under the new coaching staff, and the '28 and '29 grad class recruits look outstanding. He needs all the help he can get from the admins in order to bring Big Red football back to where it belongs, and not an afterthought on campus as compared to the the other men's teams on the Hill!

I'm looking forward to the day the stadium gets a full makeover.

mike1960

big29red
Great 2-part interview w/ Coach Swanstrom! The last few quotes in the article are quite telling and an indictment of the last coaching regime. He is explaining the difference between taking over at Penn as an OC and now as a Head Coach at Cornell-"This team's got more work to do. I think there's some want to and there's some passion, but the collective group has no clue. Like, that group at Penn was well trained, they were in shape. They were ready to compete. We have much further to go."

Boy, that doesn't give me a good feeling about this year's team/outcomes. The administration let the Archer debacle go on for too long, now Swanstrom really will need 2-3 years to get this going in the right direction. Lack of facilities, run down stadium, and general apathy have made it quite easy for all the opposing Ivy coaches to negatively recruit us, leaving us with sub-par recruiting classes for a while now. This is changing under the new coaching staff, and the '28 and '29 grad class recruits look outstanding. He needs all the help he can get from the admins in order to bring Big Red football back to where it belongs, and not an afterthought on campus as compared to the the other men's teams on the Hill!

I'm looking forward to the day the stadium gets a full makeover.

Well, I'd be sad if it literally did. During Cornell's glory days, we beat teams like Michigan regularly. (Our overall record against the Wolverines is 12-6.) The Kopf was the scene of our last victory over them (20-7). Just as the Acropolis adds a taste of ancient glory to Athens, the Kopf adds a taste of (not-so-) ancient glory to Cornell. A full makeover of the Acropolis would be a hotel with decorative pillars in the lobby and a statue or two; a full makeover of the Kopf would be something like Malone Stadium with a statue of Touchdown The Bear.

IMHO, something more akin to (most of) the marginal upgrades at Lynah would be preferable to a full makeover.

Part 3 of the Sun’s interview with Coach Swanstrom has been posted.

I am sure new head coach Dan Swanstrom will have some growing pains with Cornell football, but he's both an experienced head coach and offensive coodinator. One of the reasons he has seven quarterbacks as those are usually the best athletes on most high school teams and are often converted to other positions like WR, TE, and Safety in college. See roster article below.

In terms of Schoellkopf Field, I am hopeful the new coach wants to make some upgrades like bringing back the West Stands. Obviously they do not need to be 4,000 seats, but during Swanstrom's tenure at Penn they completely renovated Franklin Field and it's beautiful. One of my suggestions for the West Stands is a smaller set up with an awning for rainy football and lacrosse games. Having an awning over a new West Stands would also help lacrosse when the weather is often wet in March and April. I have sat through too many drizzely lacrosse games over the years at Schoellkopf. Besides Cornell clearly needs those West Stands seats for graduation. Having an awning on a hot Memorial Day weekend would also cool our admins. Go Big Red!



[cornellbigred.com]

[cvmprofessional.com]

CAS
Part 3 of the Sun’s interview with Coach Swanstrom has been posted.

Of the three parts, I found this one most informative. He makes it very clear that the returning players were never taught how to prepare at a level appropriate for the Ivy League:

Dan Swanstrom
We got to get bigger, we got to be stronger. [We] gotta get more explosive, gotta get faster. You know, there’s some decent athletic pieces in the program. But overall as a program, we’re just behind with our strength. We’re behind with the development in our bodies and you see it with some of the injuries that we’re going through. And we’re a very banged up football team. But a big part of why we’re banged up is because the development of our players isn’t where it needs to be to compete in this league. And so these players got beat up playing the game because they weren’t in the shape that they needed to be to compete at that level.
...

Until our guys develop their strength, until they develop their endurance, their conditioning, until they develop their explosiveness, it’s going to be a challenge

You can't accomplish this physical kind of training overnight or at the last minute. If you start just before the season starts, you're not ready for the season. So, we're probably looking at 2025 before we even begin to see much improvement. OTOH, he seems to have the right attitude.

The interview reminds me of an interview with a Yale lacrosse player the year they won the natty. He said players, especially underclassmen, were required to send photos of their meals to team captains. In turn, the captains would police the team's diet: "John, that pizza with french fries is not how this team eats." Without even this level of knowledge among the seniors, Swanstrom might have to have the photos sent to him or the other coaches for a while.

Swampy

CAS
Part 3 of the Sun’s interview with Coach Swanstrom has been posted.

Of the three parts, I found this one most informative. He makes it very clear that the returning players were never taught how to prepare at a level appropriate for the Ivy League:

Dan Swanstrom
We got to get bigger, we got to be stronger. [We] gotta get more explosive, gotta get faster. You know, there’s some decent athletic pieces in the program. But overall as a program, we’re just behind with our strength. We’re behind with the development in our bodies and you see it with some of the injuries that we’re going through. And we’re a very banged up football team. But a big part of why we’re banged up is because the development of our players isn’t where it needs to be to compete in this league. And so these players got beat up playing the game because they weren’t in the shape that they needed to be to compete at that level.
...

Until our guys develop their strength, until they develop their endurance, their conditioning, until they develop their explosiveness, it’s going to be a challenge

You can't accomplish this physical kind of training overnight or at the last minute. If you start just before the season starts, you're not ready for the season. So, we're probably looking at 2025 before we even begin to see much improvement. OTOH, he seems to have the right attitude.

The interview reminds me of an interview with a Yale lacrosse player the year they won the natty. He said players, especially underclassmen, were required to send photos of their meals to team captains. In turn, the captains would police the team's diet: "John, that pizza with french fries is not how this team eats." Without even this level of knowledge among the seniors, Swanstrom might have to have the photos sent to him or the other coaches for a while.

Cornell hired a strength coach Anthony Deckers just charge of the football program back in early March, so they have had the spring and summer to work towards the goal of getting the present class improved in the areas of strength training for this season at least. But I agree, in 2025 you would have a whole year to improve those areas going forward.

Local Motion
Having an awning over a new West Stands would also help lacrosse when the weather is often wet in March and April. I have sat through too many drizzely lacrosse games over the years at Schoellkopf. Besides Cornell clearly needs those West Stands seats for graduation. Having an awning on a hot Memorial Day weekend would also cool our admins. Go Big Red!

Stands with an awning for students (and parents and alumni) during poor weather early in lacrosse season would be awesome. It need not be larger than 1,000 for early season games unless say we play Duke in February. Except then TV cameras will focus on almost, ah, nobody in the Crescent. Lacrosse really needs its own field. Other Ivies have non-football fields for both lacrosse and soccer. That could be Berman field, near the slowly approaching Meinig Field House, except Berman is the original kind of turf field: 70% Kentucky bluegrass, 30% perennial rye. And Cornell is running out of free space to build other than maybe the Schoellkopf Field parking lot.

When Cornell football opens its season Sept. 21 at Colgate, it will be, obviously, Cornell's first game. Colgate will be playing its fourth game: narrow 17-14 loss to Villanova in August then a crushing 28-3 loss to then No. 5 (FCS) Villanova. Colgate jumped to an early lead Saturday (9/14) over Akron, 14-0, which is a reminder of what a terrible nickname Zips is when you're getting shut out. Even the dullest sportswriter has the first paragraph kind of figured out.

billhoward
When Cornell football opens its season Sept. 21 at Colgate, it will be, obviously, Cornell's first game. Colgate will be playing its fourth game: narrow 17-14 loss to Villanova in August then a crushing 28-3 loss to then No. 5 (FCS) Villanova. Colgate jumped to an early lead Saturday (9/14) over Akron, 14-0, which is a reminder of what a terrible nickname Zips is when you're getting shut out. Even the dullest sportswriter has the first paragraph kind of figured out.

Arkon 21- Columbia 17 in the second quarter.

Ken711

billhoward
When Cornell football opens its season Sept. 21 at Colgate, it will be, obviously, Cornell's first game. Colgate will be playing its fourth game: narrow 17-14 loss to Maine Villanova in August then a crushing 28-3 loss to then No. 5 (FCS) Villanova. Colgate jumped to an early lead Saturday (9/14) over Akron, 14-0, which is a reminder of what a terrible nickname Zips is when you're getting shut out. Even the dullest sportswriter has the first paragraph kind of figured out.

Arkon 21- Colgate Columbia 17 in the second quarter.

You guys are drunk!

ugarte

Ken711

billhoward
When Cornell football opens its season Sept. 21 at Colgate, it will be, obviously, Cornell's first game. Colgate will be playing its fourth game: narrow 17-14 loss to Maine Villanova in August then a crushing 28-3 loss to then No. 5 (FCS) Villanova. Colgate jumped to an early lead Saturday (9/14) over Akron, 14-0, which is a reminder of what a terrible nickname Zips is when you're getting shut out. Even the dullest sportswriter has the first paragraph kind of figured out.

Arkon 21- Colgate Columbia 17 in the second quarter.

You guys are drunk!

Oops

Akron 28 Colgate 17 at the half.

Colgate's quarterback, Michael Brescia, is a dual-threat (not unlike Jameson Wang). Watched a couple of impressive pocket bail-outs followed by equally impressive speed from Brescia last evening against Akron. Watch for this next week if Cornell's secondary looks anything near as abysmal as last year's.

The interview with Swanstrom was interesting. Parts 2 and 3 (and particularly 3) offered a surprisingly candid assessment of the state of the program. While sobering, the silver lining is that Swanstrom has an idea of what a winning program looks and acts like, or at least a better one than the prior regime (which really had no idea at all, despite good intentions). The difficulty for Swanstrom initially will be achieving buy-in amongst the current players. A sea-shift in culture is difficult without the expectation of immediate results as a matter of basic human psychology. A turnaround, if one occurs, will take multiple years. But it is possible.

One improvement Cornell can focus on making this year is to stem the tide of losing games despite outgaining its opponents, and sometimes drastically so. Contain the big play and complete possessions -- matters, of course, of speed and strength. Going back to Swanstrom's points about culture and preparation.

Always look forward to the start of the Ivy season, in any case. GBR.

tycho
Colgate's quarterback, Michael Brescia, is a dual-threat (not unlike Jameson Wang). Watched a couple of impressive pocket bail-outs followed by equally impressive speed from Brescia last evening against Akron. Watch for this next week if Cornell's secondary looks anything near as abysmal as last year's.

The interview with Swanstrom was interesting. Parts 2 and 3 (and particularly 3) offered a surprisingly candid assessment of the state of the program. While sobering, the silver lining is that Swanstrom has an idea of what a winning program looks and acts like, or at least a better one than the prior regime (which really had no idea at all, despite good intentions). The difficulty for Swanstrom initially will be achieving buy-in amongst the current players. A sea-shift in culture is difficult without the expectation of immediate results as a matter of basic human psychology. A turnaround, if one occurs, will take multiple years. But it is possible.

One improvement Cornell can focus on making this year is to stem the tide of losing games despite outgaining its opponents, and sometimes drastically so. Contain the big play -- a matter, of course, of speed and strength. Going back to Swanstrom's point.

Always look forward to the start of the Ivy season, in any case. GBR.

Colgate always seems to have Cornell's number no matter what their current record is. Colgate looking for the 1st win of the season is going to be playing hungry for that win, and already having 4 games under their belt, while playing at home is going to be a big challenge for Cornell. Then coming home to face a top team like Yale is going to also be a very difficult task. If we can come away with a few wins this season while at least remaining somewhat competitive in games will be a step in the right direction. With the lack of quality depth, this team is also going to need a lot of luck to limit injuries.

Kind of astonishing that he called out Archer and staff. Not sure what that says about Swanstrom and if he’s going to openly attack his students. Not a good look. Sounds like he’s lowering expectations to cover his ass. When Al Bagnoli went to Columbia he did not do that. He let the record of the prior group speak for itself. Classy.

A win over Columbia and one out of the league sounds like a good season.

Imho Coach Swanstrom is being candid & appropriately trying to change the program’s culture. Given Cornell football’s history, he has no need to cover his ass. There are few expectations. I’m excited about our new coach (& I think the team is too).

arugula
Kind of astonishing that he called out Archer and staff. Not sure what that says about Swanstrom and if he’s going to openly attack his students. Not a good look. Sounds like he’s lowering expectations to cover his ass. When Al Bagnoli went to Columbia he did not do that. He let the record of the prior group speak for itself. Classy.

A win over Columbia and one out of the league sounds like a good season.

It's more an indictment that Andy Noel kept Archer way way way past when it was apparent he was over his head as a head coach. The program couldn't have sunk any lower despite all the rah rah enthusiasm that Archer displayed losing year after losing year. Case in point, losing to Princeton 66-0 during the 2018-19 season,

Ken711

arugula
Kind of astonishing that he called out Archer and staff. Not sure what that says about Swanstrom and if he’s going to openly attack his students. Not a good look. Sounds like he’s lowering expectations to cover his ass. When Al Bagnoli went to Columbia he did not do that. He let the record of the prior group speak for itself. Classy.

A win over Columbia and one out of the league sounds like a good season.

It's more an indictment that Andy Noel kept Archer way way way past when it was apparent he was over his head as a head coach. The program couldn't have sunk any lower despite all the rah rah enthusiasm that Archer displayed losing year after losing year. Case in point, losing to Princeton 66-0 during the 2018-19 season,

And, besides, it's true. Swanstrom's comparison to his arrival at Penn in Part 2 is instructive. Through no fault of his own, the fundamentals themselves are perhaps farther behind than even he thought. That's important for a new coach to acknowledge and for observers to understand. I'd like to think Swanstrom sees this next phase for what it is -- an opportunity to more fully mold the culture of a program as he would mold it than he's previously had, but also the most significant challenge yet of his career. Swanstrom's spent a good bit of time in successful FCS programs, but his time at Cornell will be a real test. One which I think, and hope, he very much embraces.

Dan Swanstrom
This [team’s] got more work, this one’s got more work to do [in comparison to Penn]. I think there’s some want to and there’s some passion, but the collective group has no clue. Like, that group at Penn was well trained. They were in shape. They were ready to compete. We have much further to go.

For this upcoming season I, much like those above me, anticipate something similar to what we have seen, as Ken deftly notes. Perhaps an exciting and unexpected win sprinkled in somewhere (a la Yale in 2023).

Ditto! As a former player and supporter of Big Red athletics for over 40 yrs now, I have been embarrassed by the charade Andy Noel let happen for quite a long time, even before Archer took the helm. He and the admins have let the stadium crumble, really never upgraded the team facilities, and never really implemented a proper conditioning program. This all lead to multiple years of poor recruiting and not enough depth with a ton of injuries making matters worse. Now, Coach Swanstrom has to right the ship and he's just stating the facts. He knew this going in, but welcomed the challenge. He just might have not realized how much of a challenge it is, until he's been with the team for the past 6 months or so! I wish him all the luck in the world, it seems that the new AD has his back, and more importantly the team's back!!! These kids and parents did no deserve this over the years, but hey- it got them into Cornell and they graduated with pretty good job prospects for the most part. I'm not really sure why Cornell has these issues, but I have to believe it's top down w/$$ and cents. They want a world class educational experience, they should want the same for the athletics program. Hopefully turning a corner with our new AD!!

And the final is Akron 31, Colgate not Columbia 20. Saturday's Cornell-at-Colgate game gives us an idea of how we compare to, ah, Akron.

Swamstrom has been given more resources than Archer. Let's hope it works out. Success in college sports sports comes down to recruiting and that was Archer and many other Cornell coaches have fallen short(Exceptions granted to Musick, Baughan, and Hofher regimes). Comes down to talent that is being put on the field.

rss77
Swamstrom has been given more resources than Archer. Let's hope it works out. Success in college sports sports comes down to recruiting and that was Archer and many other Cornell coaches have fallen short(Exceptions granted to Musick, Baughan, and Hofher regimes). Comes down to talent that is being put on the field.

And success comes from involved alumni especially football alumni. Princeton football alumni try to help every one of the 85 or so people on the team find summer internships in the careers they hope to pursue, and are for the most part successful. Including the team managers. But Princeton alumni are broadly helpful in trying to find summer and then full-time jobs for students. It's one reason why the WSJ ranks Princeton the No. 1 college in America: Because a big part of the rating is how the students fare once graduated, financially, in adult life, on the 2024-25 Wall Street Journal college ratings. [www.wsj.com] 1. Princeton, 2. Babson, 3. Stanford.

billhoward

rss77
Swamstrom has been given more resources than Archer. Let's hope it works out. Success in college sports sports comes down to recruiting and that was Archer and many other Cornell coaches have fallen short(Exceptions granted to Musick, Baughan, and Hofher regimes). Comes down to talent that is being put on the field.

And success comes from involved alumni especially football alumni. Princeton football alumni try to help every one of the 85 or so people on the team find summer internships in the careers they hope to pursue, and are for the most part successful. Including the team managers. But Princeton alumni are broadly helpful in trying to find summer and then full-time jobs for students. It's one reason why the WSJ ranks Princeton the No. 1 college in America: Because a big part of the rating is how the students fare once graduated, financially, in adult life, on the 2024-25 Wall Street Journal college ratings. [www.wsj.com] 1. Princeton, 2. Babson, 3. Stanford.

Good to know.

Now please explain why Quinnipiac Community College is ranked 91 while Johns Hopkins U. is 92. Also Qpuke is ahead of BC at 100, Amherst College at 120, Clarkson at 138 and Williams College at 174.

marty

billhoward

rss77
Swamstrom has been given more resources than Archer. Let's hope it works out. Success in college sports sports comes down to recruiting and that was Archer and many other Cornell coaches have fallen short(Exceptions granted to Musick, Baughan, and Hofher regimes). Comes down to talent that is being put on the field.

And success comes from involved alumni especially football alumni. Princeton football alumni try to help every one of the 85 or so people on the team find summer internships in the careers they hope to pursue, and are for the most part successful. Including the team managers. But Princeton alumni are broadly helpful in trying to find summer and then full-time jobs for students. It's one reason why the WSJ ranks Princeton the No. 1 college in America: Because a big part of the rating is how the students fare once graduated, financially, in adult life, on the 2024-25 Wall Street Journal college ratings. [www.wsj.com] 1. Princeton, 2. Babson, 3. Stanford.

Good to know.

Now please explain why Quinnipiac Community College is ranked 91 while Johns Hopkins U. is 92. Also Qpuke is ahead of BC at 100, Amherst College at 120, Clarkson at 138 and Williams College at 174.

It's the WSJ. All success is measured in $$$.

Al DeFlorio

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Swamstrom has been given more resources than Archer. Let's hope it works out. Success in college sports sports comes down to recruiting and that was Archer and many other Cornell coaches have fallen short(Exceptions granted to Musick, Baughan, and Hofher regimes). Comes down to talent that is being put on the field.

And success comes from involved alumni especially football alumni. Princeton football alumni try to help every one of the 85 or so people on the team find summer internships in the careers they hope to pursue, and are for the most part successful. Including the team managers. But Princeton alumni are broadly helpful in trying to find summer and then full-time jobs for students. It's one reason why the WSJ ranks Princeton the No. 1 college in America: Because a big part of the rating is how the students fare once graduated, financially, in adult life, on the 2024-25 Wall Street Journal college ratings. [www.wsj.com] 1. Princeton, 2. Babson, 3. Stanford.

Good to know.

Now please explain why Quinnipiac Community College is ranked 91 while Johns Hopkins U. is 92. Also Qpuke is ahead of BC at 100, Amherst College at 120, Clarkson at 138 and Williams College at 174.

It's the WSJ. All success is measured in $$$.

You're right. Babson is a good example. It accepts about 1/5 of all applicants, and 50% of all students have SAT's between 1350 and 1510. Its list of majors includes 14 business-related subjects plus 8 others. The first group includes subjects like Economics, which elsewhere might be less business-focused, but I doubt they're not business-focused at Babson because it's basically an undergraduate business school.

I do know a recent Babson grad. He graduated around 2018 and went to work at a Boston hedge-fund firm. He's currently making over $1mm per year.

[caution, severe thread drift]

Al DeFlorio
It's the WSJ. All success is measured in $$$.

More politely, the Wall Street [emphasis added] Journal says it weighted more heavily the impact the school has on the young scholar's later financial well-being.

[thread drift begins here:] I would say, after many decades in publishing, that someone looking to make a name and financial sufficiency in this business should ignore newspapers / magazines and lean toward TV or online videos (if you're young, lithe and glib). One can still do well in broadcasting, off-camera, no matter how homely average you look.

If you still have the bug for newspaper journalism, do as was done by Ted Williams (different Ted Williams), former reporter for the Charlotte Observer – made his money as a local entrepreneur – who Sept. 2024 made a $5M bid for the Observer. Which is the same amount as he made selling the local news site Charlotte Agenda, letter selling it to Axios for $5 million in 2020, and later benefitting the $525M Axios sale to Cox. The am and pm Springfield (MA) newspapers where I worked early 1980s had about 150 reporters / editors and now it has fewer than 15, I year (although it's augment by a larger statewide newsgathering siblng in a different building). If I had the money to piss away (I have doubts the maybe Charlotte operation will make money), that'd be more fun than buying a minor league baseball or hockey team.

WSJ story: He Worked at the Charlotte Observer. Now He Wants to Buy It: Local entrepreneur Ted Williams offered a detailed plan to revitalize the paper, complete with a budget

Cornell is really lacking depth on the OL. It's going to be a real struggle this year if they lose any more players to injuries on the OL. Jackson Bradley had to leave team due to chronic knee problem. Mike Jones left the team as well. They have moved Kevin Ma from the defensive line to the starting center. Other OL who played in games last year are dinged up as well. One Cornell incoming class freshman is on the two deep at guard. Despite Colgate's 0-3 record, they should be favored playing at home, as Cornell will be learning a completely new offense and with it I expect mistakes and penalties.

Seats available.

Columbia all over Lafayette. shocking

Excellent play designs and calls on that first drive. Colgate on its heels the whole time. Just need a little better execution on the pitches and catches.

Cornell field goal. 3-0

Good Cornell defense. They were pushed around a little at first but did better on short yardage situations and got some pressure on the QB on passing situations.

Colgate field goal. 3-3

Great Cornell drive! Ran some option and good routes with a modified hurry up offense. Wang threw a dime and completed a 40 yarder to around the 15. Two plays later, and nice pass to the corner for a TD.

Cornell 10-3

I have to get going so I'll have to watch the game later. I'm excited at how this season has started!

Can anybody here play defense?

17-10 Red on passing game

Al DeFlorio
Can anybody here play defense?

oooof. Colgate goes for it on 4th and 1 from just across midfield on a QB run, makes it past the DL and is gone. Tied at 17, just when i thought I'd get to answer Al "finally, us."

44 yard run on 4th and 1 ties it 17 all

ugarte

Al DeFlorio
Can anybody here play defense?

oooof. Colgate goes for it on 4th and 1 from just across midfield on a QB run, makes it past the DL and is gone. Tied at 17, just when i thought I'd get to answer Al "finally, us."

No, them.

Al DeFlorio

ugarte

Al DeFlorio
Can anybody here play defense?

oooof. Colgate goes for it on 4th and 1 from just across midfield on a QB run, makes it past the DL and is gone. Tied at 17, just when i thought I'd get to answer Al "finally, us."

No, them.

Still not us. 24-17 them.

Even though Cornell was able to pin Colgate inside their own 10, punting on 4th-and-1 there was a mistake. You can’t give up possession to an offense you haven’t shown any ability to stop in a game you’re losing. The story of the half is Cornell’s porous defense, but that was a poor in-game decision by the coach.

Superb 2 minute drill from their 5 makes it 27-17.

BearLover
Even though Cornell was able to pin Colgate inside their own 10, punting on 4th-and-1 there was a mistake. You can’t give up possession to an offense you haven’t shown any ability to stop in a game you’re losing. The story of the half is Cornell’s porous defense, but that was a poor in-game decision by the coach.

let them drive inside the 10 but, despite losing a safety to a targeting call, Cornell held the Raiders to a FG. 27-17 at the half.

Need a ground game. Defense opts for coverage over pass rush. Getting neither.

Al DeFlorio
Need a ground game. Defense opts for coverage over pass rush. Getting neither.

They have some good looking running backs coming in this year's recruiting class assuming they stay committed.

Offense sputtering since second TD.

Insult to injury as the score graphic calls us the Big Reds. 34-17 'Gate

arugula
Columbia all over Lafayette. shocking

And won, 31-20. Very impressive showing for them and their young QB.

Big Red need to fix the penalties on offense. Playing behind the sticks the entire second half. Not to mention the woes on defense. A lot of work to be done, but it will take time. Brown (and perhaps Columbia) maybe turning the corner.

tycho

arugula
Columbia all over Lafayette. shocking

And won, 31-20. Very impressive showing for them and their young QB.

Big Red need to fix the penalties on offense. Playing behind the sticks the entire second half. Not to mention the woes on defense. A lot of work to be done, but it will take time. Brown (and perhaps Columbia) maybe turning the corner.

I can't see this team winning more than a game or two this season, but I didn't expect more given the lack of quality players that Archer's staff left the new staff with. Swanstrom has a lot work ahead, but he's at least building a foundation of future success with his strength and conditioning program, and recruiting is off to a better start than previous seasons, and that should pay dividends in future seasons.

Yale breaks a tie with a TD with 12 seconds left in the game then knocks down a Hail Mary at the buzzer to beat Holy Cross on the road, 38-31.

Al DeFlorio
Need a ground game. Defense opts for coverage over pass rush. Getting neither.

Our running plays seemed to take forever to develop, and none of our RBs seemed to have any burst through the hole. Not sure if Eddy Tillman is injured, but 2 years ago in Hamilton he had a big game, and I don’t think he saw the field. On the positive side, we have several guys who can catch the ball, and the O-line did a decent job in pass protection. But it does seem a 2-3 win season is the best we can expect.

Watching more of the game. The D will improve quickly if they learn to get off their blocks and wrap the legs when they tackle.

scoop85

Al DeFlorio
Need a ground game. Defense opts for coverage over pass rush. Getting neither.

Our running plays seemed to take forever to develop, and none of our RBs seemed to have any burst through the hole. Not sure if Eddy Tillman is injured, but 2 years ago in Hamilton he had a big game, and I don’t think he saw the field. On the positive side, we have several guys who can catch the ball, and the O-line did a decent job in pass protection. But it does seem a 2-3 win season is the best we can expect.

I didn't see many attempts up the middle tbh, which was surprising because we were having trouble getting anything on the option after the first quarter. Maybe a couple of keeps by Wang? Pope was getting wrapped up immediately.

Musungu and Lee did a great job with their openings and Wang is still clearly a very high-quality Ivy QB.

ugarte
Insult to injury as the score graphic calls us the Big Reds. 34-17 'Gate

They're thinking of the leftist Cornell prof-with-tenure the NY Post keeps picking on, Russel Rickford. [nypost.com]. I get to follow this because about every third day, along with my print copies of the NY Times and WSJ, the Post shows up gratis. (Aside on tabloids: Some years back, a Cornell friend and her husband living in Brooklyn were offered a 3-month free trial via a phone solicitor. The husband say no. The solicitor asked what's better than free? He said: We live in a condo; the neighbors would see.

One good thing about the Colgate game: A lot of people didn't see what happened. Just 2,984 over in Hamilton per the Colgate box score: [patriotleague.org]. Versus 110,702 in Ann Arbor for USC-Michigan. Wolverines say it's their 319th straight game with 100,000 plus attendance.

Yes-I was at the game and observed that many Colgate students were at the Hamilton Village Farmers' Market. Would have expected a bigger crowd at Colgate's homecoming.
Observations-The punting was abysmal save for the 60 yard punt.
The d-line is relatively and really got pushed around by Colgate's o-line
Not sure but did Colgate add another d-back to take away the deep pass in the 2nd half. Wang had time to throw but could not find open receivers in 2nd half.
Red gave it top effort. Tall order next against Yale.

ITHACA, N.Y. -- The Cornell football team's Friday night lights battle against Harvard on October 11 will now be televised on ESPN2 at 6 p.m. from Schoellkopf Field. The contest will serve as the Big Red's second-ever appearance on ESPN2, after the pair of Ivy foes played on the deuce last season.

Ken711
ITHACA, N.Y. -- The Cornell football team's Friday night lights battle against Harvard on October 11 will now be televised on ESPN2 at 6 p.m. from Schoellkopf Field. The contest will serve as the Big Red's second-ever appearance on ESPN2, after the pair of Ivy foes played on the deuce last season.

Yikes! The whole nation can see how much we stink.

CU2007

Ken711
ITHACA, N.Y. -- The Cornell football team's Friday night lights battle against Harvard on October 11 will now be televised on ESPN2 at 6 p.m. from Schoellkopf Field. The contest will serve as the Big Red's second-ever appearance on ESPN2, after the pair of Ivy foes played on the deuce last season.

Yikes! The whole nation can see how much we stink.

Let's hope we just keep the score respectable. Cornell has a very difficult road ahead, first Yale, then #16th ranked Albany, and finally Harvard. Any wins we attain this season are a bonus.

I hate to use the term, but I think Coach Swanstrom knows this is a "Rebuilding Year" and it's probably going to take at least two to three seasons to turn this ship around. No doubt Yale will be a tough foe on Saturday, but hopefully we get a little lucky this season. Come out this weekend to Homecoming as regardless of the score it's always a fun day on the East Hill. Go Big Red!

Local Motion
I hate to use the term, but I think Coach Swanstrom knows this is a "Rebuilding Year" and it's probably going to take at least two to three seasons to turn this ship around. No doubt Yale will be a tough foe on Saturday, but hopefully we get a little lucky this season. Come out this weekend to Homecoming as regardless of the score it's always a fun day on the East Hill. Go Big Red!

He knows, and in all his interviews with the media, he has stated the pretty much the same. Expectations are low, build on each day, each game, each season. It's going to take time, but if he can continue to bring in good recruiting classes like he has started to do with the Class of 2029 recruits to date, Cornell may yet have a bright future in the Ivy League after the dark cloud of the Archer years in the last decade.

Come out and cheer for the Big Red at Schoellkopf Field tomorrow! The weather is calling for partly sunny, 71 degrees, and a beautiful day for Homecoming. Go Big Red!

Local Motion
Come out and cheer for the Big Red at Schoellkopf Field tomorrow! The weather is calling for partly sunny, 71 degrees, and a beautiful day for Homecoming. Go Big Red!

33 yard dime from Wang on 4th and 3 to take a 7-0 lead. Yale responds to tie.

After Yale forces a punt, a crazy bounce hits a blocker in the leg and Cornell recovers and takes over at the 25. Wang misses a wide open receiver on first down and makes a bad decision on 3rd and 4 but Cornell hits the FG.

Cornell forces a Yale fumble and again recovers at around the 20. A holding penalty nullifies a TD pass; Cornell barely avoids an end zone tip-drill interception on 3rd and long - and Wang stayed down for a bit after the play and walked off with a trainer. Cornell hit the FG again.

Yale driving as Cornell leads 13-7 with ~2 minutes left in Q1.

5 penalties for 42 yards in first 17 minutes.
6 for 47 in 18 minutes!

Once again- Cornell shoots itself in the foot. Lost a touchdown on one drive with a holding penalty on the Oline, now holding on the defensive back, gave Yale another shot at a touchdown from 4 yards as opposed to a third and like 20, after a sack. Not sure what’s gonna change for this team, the coaching staff is new, maybe it’s just the lack of talent. Unfortunately, there is also not help much by the coaching staff. I’ve seen at least 3 to 4 defense alignments that are terrible, wide openings for Yale, who of course, recognizes these openings and takes advantage of them. If it wasn’t for this quarterback, this team would have no points.

Yale scores to go up 14-13 but Wang and Cornell respond with a great drive in the rain. A second long TD to Lee gives the Red a 20-14 lead

If your takeaway from what we've seen so far is that the coaching is *bad* you will never be satisfied.

That’s not my take away – I am making an observation from this particular game with 3 to 4 different defensive alignments that are just not right.

How about we do game threads in future?

27-14 Red at half with 265 yards total offense

What in the Wide, Wide World of Sports is going on?

Trotsky
What in the Wide, Wide World of Sports is going on?

we keep exchanging scores. 33-23, good guys, and we're back in the red zone, re: the score, it's unclear if gamecast isn't picking up XP attempts because it doesn't show anything (success/fail) for the last touchdown exchange.

This is impressive. Is Yale bad? I’m guessing no.

arugula
This is impressive. Is Yale bad? I’m guessing no.

They were the preseason favorite. No. 2 Harvard lost to Brown today.

ugarte

Trotsky
What in the Wide, Wide World of Sports is going on?

we keep exchanging scores. 33-23, good guys, and we're back in the red zone, re: the score, it's unclear if gamecast isn't picking up XP attempts because it doesn't show anything (success/fail) for the last touchdown exchange.

Cornell missed PAT...fumbled snap? Yale failed on a 2.

What a difference in this generation!