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Cornell lacrosse 2025

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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 08, 2025 02:18PM

BearLover
Trotsky
That was clearly Mike Schafer's fault. -- eLynah
I mean this was clearly the coaching staff’s fault

We played well overall until the end. EMO defense is tough. I have one quibble (besides the use of timeouts): We did not seem to know what to do when we have to kill time and the D is doubling the ball. Having CJ run around with the ball is not a good plan. Did we work on this scenario?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/08/2025 02:28PM by mike1960.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 08, 2025 02:21PM

why did CJ run back to the end line is the question. just contuniue around. leaves the option of shooting as well to keep the ball
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 08, 2025 02:28PM

upprdeck
why did CJ run back to the end line is the question. just contuniue around. leaves the option of shooting as well to keep the ball

The D guys forced him in that direction. They weren't going to let him have the field. And the out-of-bounds line is a D player's friend. They did a good job. In fact, overall, I think the PSU defense played well today, with only a few breakdowns.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: Cornell95 (8.9.93.---)
Date: March 08, 2025 02:31PM

will be some tough film review

significant turn was the unforced turnover when we were on the EMO, up 7-4
PSU long pole scored in transition to make it 7-5

Cornell coaching staff will look back on use of timeouts as well

Learning opportunities, tough Princeton squad up next
(would be nice to have field temps above 45)
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: chimpfood (---.cit.cornell.edu)
Date: March 08, 2025 02:52PM

Terrible loss. I don’t know about that cascadden penalty, seems like he had his head down and just accidentally ran the guy over. The man down unit was terrible, sticks weren’t even up and if were that tight and not knocking down passes all that’s gonna happen is goals against us. Knust was terrible, don’t think he made a single high save all day and he also let like 5 posts get rung. Also can’t understand why malkonian was out there for the last faceoff. While he “won” the one before, it wasn’t a real win. PSU won it clean then just dropped it.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 08, 2025 03:20PM

jjanow99
I think they have to be in the offensive end to get a TO?

My apologies. I misunderstood your question and the rule. I could have sworn that the offense could call a timeout anywhere on the field. I looked it up and it says the player with the ball must have a foot within the "restraining line in the offensive end of the field."

Here's the rule:

Team Timeouts
SECTION 27. When the ball is dead, only a member of either team who is on
the field or a team’s head coach may request an official to call timeout.
During play, team timeouts may be called by a field player of the team in
possession of the ball or by that team’s head coach only when the player in
possession of the ball has contact with the ground with at least one foot in
contact with the ground on or across the restraining line in the offensive end
of the field.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: Swampy (193.37.254.---)
Date: March 08, 2025 04:22PM

mike1960
Tim Goldstein has been terrific at X, but I have to say, Mikey Long is so at ease back there, it looks like he was born to play that position.


I wasn't at today's game, and I haven't had the chance yet to watch it on TV (curse you IRS!). But I'm pretty sure that Tim must have been watching from the stands unless Ryan is injured. Of course we'd love to have both of them playing. Mom too!
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: MattShaf (---.myfairpoint.net)
Date: March 08, 2025 05:15PM

Fucking brutal ending. Up 4 goals with under 5 minutes to play and posession. Really didn’t need to do anything but deflate the ball for the entire shot clock and play defense. The Penn State team was way short on offensive talent today. Let a top 10 victory slip away.

That said, the Big Red are a really good lacrosse team and I fully expect them to continue to play great lacrosse throughout the rest of the regular season and hopefully well into the NCAA tournament.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/08/2025 05:18PM by MattShaf.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: rss77 (---.sub-174-197-203.myvzw.com)
Date: March 08, 2025 05:54PM

We sometimes forget that these are games and an element of luck contributes to the outcome. Cascadden's unfortunate penalty was accidental contact but it was a shot to the head. Without the 2 minute unreleasable penalty Penn State does not win IMO. (Could've, would've, should've). Let's see if the Red use this game for motivation to fire up against Princeton.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 08, 2025 09:31PM

rss77
We sometimes forget that these are games and an element of luck contributes to the outcome. Cascadden's unfortunate penalty was accidental contact but it was a shot to the head. Without the 2 minute unreleasable penalty Penn State does not win IMO. (Could've, would've, should've). Let's see if the Red use this game for motivation to fire up against Princeton.

Great point! This is sport. You never know how the ball will bounce. But that's one of the things that makes it exciting. I wore my lucky Cornell hoodie today but it just didn't have enough mojo.

See you next week! Go Big Red!
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: TimV (---.sub-174-231-51.myvzw.com)
Date: March 09, 2025 10:00AM

mike1960
BearLover
Trotsky
That was clearly Mike Schafer's fault. -- eLynah
I mean this was clearly the coaching staff’s fault

We played well overall until the end. EMO defense is tough. I have one quibble (besides the use of timeouts): We did not seem to know what to do when we have to kill time and the D is doubling the ball. Having CJ run around with the ball is not a good plan. Did we work on this scenario?

I agree. You don't want to get him injured. The short stick defenders like Gilmartin and Bozzi have great clearing skills so I would think a unit with those two could kill a minute or two.

 
___________________________
"Yo Paulie - I don't see no crowd gathering 'round you neither."
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: Ken711 (---.clppva.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 11, 2025 09:13AM

Princeton moves ahead of Cornell in latest top 20 rankings.


2. Princeton
6. Cornell
13. Harvard
18. Penn
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 11, 2025 03:59PM

Yeah, the warmups are fun to watch. You can still find good seats a minute before the opening faceoff. Which is at 12 noon and you'll at least 90 minutes after the Princeton game ends to stroll over to Lynah for the 4 pm puck drop.

For hockey, you have to decide, do you want to see the Cornell women in the NCAA quarterfinals at Lynah at 4 pm versus the Minnesota/Dulluth—Sacred Heart winner or the Cornell-Colgate ECAC QF at 7 in Hamilton, 90 minutes away from Ithaca.

We're choosing Ithaca for the weekend so we can see Cornell-Princeton lax, which will likely decides the Ivy League championship, then women's hockey in person as well, and the men's game on TV.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 12, 2025 09:11PM

I'm guessing the team is working on breaking the 10-man ride this week.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: March 13, 2025 10:45PM

mike1960
I'm guessing the team is working on breaking the 10-man ride this week.

Also, dealing with being double-teamed.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/13/2025 10:45PM by Swampy.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 15, 2025 12:10PM

Good start with Princeton in town. Waldman to [NAME I FORGOT] and Kirst to Goldstein to go up 2-1. Both really nice passes to guys who were all alone. Knust witn an early save.

 
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 15, 2025 12:15PM

ugarte
Good start with Princeton in town. Waldman to [NAME I FORGOT] and Kirst to Goldstein to go up 2-1. Both really nice passes to guys who were all alone. Knust witn an early save.

Great game so far. Good play on both sides. Princeton tried to get up top early and scored one. Cornell D has been much better playing tough in front of the goal from 10-15.

Looks like Princeton might have a little weakness keeping track of the X. Let's see if we can get a couple more to Goldstein on the doorstep.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 15, 2025 12:26PM

5-2 Good Guys.

Great play so far. It looks like Cornell might have the edge on speed with our short sticks on offense.

Willem Firth might be our next superstar. He's pretty darned good.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: CU77 (---.sb.sd.cox.net)
Date: March 15, 2025 12:27PM

5-2 end of Q1. Red D looking way better than last week.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 15, 2025 12:28PM

CU77
5-2 end of Q1. Red D looking way better than last week.
It's still the first 55 minutes and we have a full compliment on the field but so far so good!

 
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 15, 2025 12:31PM

Jesus Kirst down the alley and hits a narrow angle for a goal. Ties the great Mike French for goals scored!
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 15, 2025 12:35PM

Wyatt has had a great same so far.

We've been successful on ground balls and getting to the end lines on shots. Some sloppy passes though and turnovers.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/15/2025 12:36PM by mike1960.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: CU77 (---.sb.sd.cox.net)
Date: March 15, 2025 12:36PM

Kirst passes French as all-time leading scorer
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 15, 2025 12:47PM

A little French pastry from CJ.

I miss Barry.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: RichH (216.224.124.---)
Date: March 15, 2025 12:52PM

mike1960
A little French pastry from CJ.

I miss Barry.

First chance I’ve had to tune in this year, and I was just thinking that. The espn+ feed is in that glitchy digital scanning mode again.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 15, 2025 12:56PM

P improving at the X and scoring more as a result.

 
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 15, 2025 12:59PM

8-6 at the half. 1:00 EMO to start the second half. Is that releasable?

 
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 15, 2025 01:02PM

Tiger Goalie has kept this game close given the close shots cornell has not put home.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 15, 2025 01:04PM

A good solid half of play. Wyatt has made some quality saves. We're patient on offense and getting good shots. Our defense has played well for the most part, but mental lapses even for a second can lead to goals, e.g., Mackasey free hands at top right for Princeton's 4th goal. We are being very judicious on our slides today, and it's working well.

We had another unfortunate penalty (cross check) that led to an EMO goal, thankfully not a non-releasable. We need to remember we're playing lacrosse, not who's the tough guy.

About even on faceoffs. That's about where we need to be to stop the runs. I like the name Melkonian. It sounds like something from the Periodic Chart of Elements.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 15, 2025 01:33PM

11-9 Cornell. End of the 3rd.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 15, 2025 01:38PM

I still think they can hit Goldstein for a pass coming from the back of the net. Someone would need to rotate for the backup.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 15, 2025 01:40PM

13-9 Cornell with 12:28 left. We've been here before. Let's just keep playing good, solid lacrosse. No penalties.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: CU2007 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 15, 2025 01:44PM

My announcers have gone silent. Seems like ESPN+ has taken a step backwards this year in terms of quality
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 15, 2025 01:45PM

15-9 Cornell, 8:31 left in the game.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 15, 2025 01:51PM

I don't like this. We're playing to run down the clock to zero, instead of playing to shoot after running down the clock.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 15, 2025 01:55PM

Good TO by Coach to give the D a break after a long possession.

15-9 Cornell, 3:41 left.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 15, 2025 02:02PM

The second our ballcarrier was double-teamed on the backline, Coach called a TO.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 15, 2025 02:07PM

15-10 Good Guys.

A solid win against an excellent team. The defense was outstanding today. We fought hard all day, allowing very few hands free shots. Wyatt was really solid in the nets. Cascadden was great down the stretch to prevent any Princeton runs. All day we got our sticks up and in the lanes, causing some turnovers, and we hustled hard for the ground ball and end lines on shots. We fought hard against the clears and did a nice job when we cleared the ball. Our offense was patient and almost always worked to get a good shot.

I really feel like this is what the end of the game against Penn State should have looked like. We were the better team last Saturday, playing a solid, winning game until the unfortunate penalty.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: MattShaf (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 15, 2025 02:11PM

+1 to that game report. Solid all around and stayed away from the penalties (critical against lethal Princeton PP).
Escaped a few horrible officiating calls.

Richmond-Duke in OT. Comeback win against Richmond looking more important for PWR.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: RichH (216.224.124.---)
Date: March 15, 2025 02:59PM

Masterful 4th quarter. Bottle that. While I didn’t like running the shot clock out without a shot three times, the result speaks for itself. Everyone learned something from last week.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/15/2025 03:01PM by RichH.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: stereax (172.56.7.---)
Date: March 15, 2025 03:25PM

mike1960
Jesus Kirst down the alley and hits a narrow angle for a goal. Ties the great Mike French for goals scored!
Jesus Kirst Superstar!
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: jjanow99 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 15, 2025 05:03PM

The announcer on ESPN+ said at the end of the game that the game is archived and can be viewed. Does anyone know where to access the archive? I can’t find it.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: CU77 (---.sb.sd.cox.net)
Date: March 15, 2025 05:08PM


“If I was to pick anybody in the world [to break my record], it would be him because he's a wonderful young man. He comes from a great family. I was with his mom just now, maybe 15 minutes ago, and he's the epitome of a great Cornell Man. He's one of the best players I've seen in ages,” French told IL from the Ithaca airport postgame. “He just epitomizes the work ethic and the culture of Cornell lacrosse. He’s hard-working, loyal, a great teammate, a great leader —everything that you'd ever want from somebody that goes to Cornell and plays lacrosse.”
[www.insidelacrosse.com]
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 15, 2025 05:13PM

jjanow99
The announcer on ESPN+ said at the end of the game that the game is archived and can be viewed. Does anyone know where to access the archive? I can’t find it.

[www.espn.com]
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: CU77 (---.sb.sd.cox.net)
Date: March 15, 2025 05:13PM

jjanow99
The announcer on ESPN+ said at the end of the game that the game is archived and can be viewed. Does anyone know where to access the archive? I can’t find it.

In general, from the ESPN Plus homepage, go to "Replays", click on the correct date (if watching on a different day) and scroll down to "Lacrosse".

Here is 26 minutes of highlights for free on youtube:
[www.youtube.com]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/15/2025 05:14PM by CU77.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 15, 2025 05:39PM

Just posted on IL: [www.insidelacrosse.com]

 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: dag14 (---.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
Date: March 15, 2025 05:39PM

I found it less than 30 minutes after the game ended. I tend to sort by sport when I am going to view a game. Doing that, you can find the archived games below the live events.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 - polls 3/17
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 17, 2025 12:00PM

Cornell bounced back from the Penn State loss and is moving up again. The Inside Lacrosse Media Poll has Cornell moving up slower than when it loses: dropping from 3 to 6 after losing to Penn State in OT the week before (and then Princeton climbing 4 to 2). Then we handily beat Princeton 15-10 and moves Cornell up 2 spots to 4. But note there are only 5 points separating fourth from second.


MEDIA POLL 3/17 | "Week 6"
Rank	Team	                Points	Prev
1	Maryland (7 - 0)	480(24)	1
2	Penn State (6 - 1)	420	4 
3	Army (7 - 0)	        419	3
4	Cornell (5 - 1)	        415	6 
5	North Carolina (6 - 1)	397	5

No USILA poll as of Monday morning.

Future opponents: Syracuse is 10, Harvard 12, Penn 16, Dartmouth 20. Meaning only Brown, 2-4, is the only out of the polls.

We'll see if the USILA poll is kinder to Cornell. Penn State's only loss is by one to Princeton.

And we'll have to see if Army's 7-0 record merits the Cadets' skills. They've beaten UMass by 7, Rutgets by 6, Yale by 11, Mercer (who?) by 13, Lafayette by 10, Holy Cross by 13, and Lehigh by 9. They do play #5 UNC March 29 at home then #15 Colgate April 5, their only ranked opponents.

CJ Kirst with another, and another:

 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 - polls 3/17
Posted by: dbilmes (64.224.255.---)
Date: March 17, 2025 12:14PM

billhoward


Future opponents: Syracuse is 10, Harvard 12, Penn 16, Dartmouth 20. Meaning only Brown, 2-4, is the only out of the polls.

Our opponent this Saturday is Yale (1-4), which is also unranked.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 - polls 3/17
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 17, 2025 12:45PM

Yes, Yale was also-receiving-votes last week but not this. They had beaten Denver 15-10 vs. our 15-10 victory. Amazing how far Yale has fallen in lacrosse since its 2018 NCAA championship (as well as in hockey since the 2013 championship). Only 2 losing Yale lacrosse seasons since 1998.

Cornell lacrosse and hockey are more consistent (winners). Lacrosse has had six losing seasons in the modern era, that is when Ned Harkness and Richie Moran came to Cornell: four in Moran's last five seasons mid-90s and two more under Matt Kerwick (now a Buckness assistant) 2016-17. That's it.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 - polls 3/17
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-229-81.myvzw.com)
Date: March 17, 2025 01:56PM

billhoward
Amazing how far Yale has fallen in lacrosse since its 2018 NCAA championship.
Yale has made the NCAA tournament in three out of four years since its national championship (two COVID seasons were canceled). The only year they missed was last season, when they went 11-4 overall and 4-2 in the Ivy. So I wouldn’t say they’ve fallen at all.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 - polls 3/17
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 17, 2025 02:54PM

dbilmes
billhoward


Future opponents: Syracuse is 10, Harvard 12, Penn 16, Dartmouth 20. Meaning only Brown, 2-4, is the only out of the polls.

Our opponent this Saturday is Yale (1-4), which is also unranked.
Albany, too, IIRC.

 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 - polls 3/17
Posted by: djk26 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 18, 2025 09:57AM

I am curious as to why Cornell does not seem to play Southern schools during the regular season. When is the last time we had a regular season game against Maryland, North Carolina, Duke (all on Princeton's schedule this year) or Johns Hopkins? We played at Richmond this year of course, and as of a few years ago, we seemed to play Virginia every year, but that has stopped.

I am not suggesting that Cornell has a weak schedule (and last year it was probably TOO strong.) It just seems surprising that Cornell never gets these traditional lacrosse powers in the regular season, especially when Princeton does (and I know they stole our Syracuse game a few years ago!)

I am guessing that the answer is the same as it is for the hockey team: these other schools don't agree to travel to Ithaca in a future year, so we don't travel to them.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 - polls 3/17
Posted by: chimpfood (---.cit.cornell.edu)
Date: March 18, 2025 10:01AM

Part of it might be that they don’t want to do a return trip but I believe Penn/princeton got Duke/UNC for home and home weekends this year and last so it’s not like they won’t come to ivies. Part of it is also probably just the travel. Look at the Richmond game this year, we went south and almost lost to a much worse team.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 - polls 3/17
Posted by: stereax (---.static.firstlight.net)
Date: March 18, 2025 10:28AM

chimpfood
Part of it might be that they don’t want to do a return trip but I believe Penn/princeton got Duke/UNC for home and home weekends this year and last so it’s not like they won’t come to ivies. Part of it is also probably just the travel. Look at the Richmond game this year, we went south and almost lost to a much worse team.
Yeah. Going to, say, Princeton or Penn isn't as In The Middle Of Nowhere as Ithaca. That's an additional 4+ hours of driving one way.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 - polls 3/17
Posted by: nshapiro (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 18, 2025 05:39PM

stereax
chimpfood
Part of it might be that they don’t want to do a return trip but I believe Penn/princeton got Duke/UNC for home and home weekends this year and last so it’s not like they won’t come to ivies. Part of it is also probably just the travel. Look at the Richmond game this year, we went south and almost lost to a much worse team.
Yeah. Going to, say, Princeton or Penn isn't as In The Middle Of Nowhere as Ithaca. That's an additional 4+ hours of driving one way.

Penn and Princeton have gone south for two years in a row. There has not yet been any reciprocity.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 - polls 3/17
Posted by: chimpfood (---.cit.cornell.edu)
Date: March 18, 2025 06:11PM

nshapiro
stereax
chimpfood
Part of it might be that they don’t want to do a return trip but I believe Penn/princeton got Duke/UNC for home and home weekends this year and last so it’s not like they won’t come to ivies. Part of it is also probably just the travel. Look at the Richmond game this year, we went south and almost lost to a much worse team.
Yeah. Going to, say, Princeton or Penn isn't as In The Middle Of Nowhere as Ithaca. That's an additional 4+ hours of driving one way.

Penn and Princeton have gone south for two years in a row. There has not yet been any reciprocity.
Oh sorry about that, my memory failed me
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 - polls 3/17
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: March 18, 2025 06:43PM

It could just be a matter of those teams wanting to find games in better weather
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: CU77 (---.sb.sd.cox.net)
Date: March 19, 2025 02:14AM

IL has some nice ground-level highlight video of the Princeton game:

[www.youtube.com]
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 - polls 3/17
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 19, 2025 11:23AM

djk26
...
I like to believe we are supporting NYS, Northeast and near-Midwest teams. plus Denver. We are the equal or better of the top Southern teams (Maryland 7-0 this season but they were also overwhelming NCAA favorites in 2022 when we held the unbeaten Terps to a 9-7 NCAA title game.)

Cornell shouldn't play other than a home-and-home on equal footing.

It is easier for Princeton or Penn to play Duke. Also from Ivy school to Duke:
Penn        400 mi    7:05
Princeton   445 mi    7:45 
Cornell     585 mi   10:00

The longest intra-Ivy team bus rides are Penn-Dartmouth, 360 mi, 6:05; Cornell-Harvard, 330 mi, 5:15; and Cornell-Dartmouth, 300 mi, 5:25.

Long ago, fifty years ago, when there was still a Lower Alumni Field across from Barton Hall and next to Teagle, I believe Cornell went south to get in some warm weather practice. In those Harkness / Moran-early years, it felt as if Cornell's only losses were early-season and by year's end they could beat anybody in the NCAAs except: no tournament until 1971. In 1971 Cornell lost Game 1 on April 1, 10-9 to Virginia, won all the rest, only wins less than +4 goals were to Brown and Army (read: Yankee schools) in the NCAAs, finished 13-1.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/19/2025 11:32AM by billhoward.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 - polls 3/17
Posted by: CU77 (---.wireless.ucsb.edu)
Date: March 19, 2025 05:30PM

The Princeton team flew to North Carolina for the 2-game weekend against Duke and UNC
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/21/2025 02:27AM by CU77.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: chimpfood (---.cit.cornell.edu)
Date: March 22, 2025 12:46PM

A lot of you aren’t gonna like the jerseys today, I think they’re nice though
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2025 01:05PM

chimpfood
A lot of you aren’t gonna like the jerseys today, I think they’re nice though
Can anyone read t he numbers?

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: jjanow99 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 22, 2025 01:05PM

Harder to pick up the numbers with those ugly jerseys.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: chimpfood (---.cit.cornell.edu)
Date: March 22, 2025 01:10PM

That’s an awful scouting report if it says shoot high to low on knust.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: CU77 (---.sb.sd.cox.net)
Date: March 22, 2025 01:14PM

Fastest hat trick ever?
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: stereax (---)
Date: March 22, 2025 01:26PM

CU77
Fastest hat trick ever?
Jesus Kirst superstar, how many goals have you scored so far...
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: chimpfood (---.cit.cornell.edu)
Date: March 22, 2025 01:28PM

This dude is ridiculous
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: RichH (---.datapacket.com)
Date: March 22, 2025 01:35PM

The glare off the turf is making it challenging to follow the ball on this broadcast.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: Iceberg (---.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2025 01:39PM

Very back and forth scoring. Also, I think this is the same PBP guy that does hockey games
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2025 01:41PM

D has to step up.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: RichH (---.datapacket.com)
Date: March 22, 2025 01:41PM

stereax
CU77
Fastest hat trick ever?
Jesus Kirst superstar, how many goals have you scored so far...

7 early in the 2nd. Ties his career high already. 200th career goal.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: RichH (---.datapacket.com)
Date: March 22, 2025 02:04PM

12-8 good guys in black at the half. CJ matched Yale’s scoring by himself.

Long got knocked at the end of the half, but seemed to get up ok.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: CU77 (---.sb.sd.cox.net)
Date: March 22, 2025 02:05PM

Black will start the 3rd man-up.
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 - polls 3/17
Posted by: stereax (---)
Date: March 22, 2025 02:15PM

billhoward
And we'll have to see if Army's 7-0 record merits the Cadets' skills. They've beaten UMass by 7, Rutgets by 6, Yale by 11, Mercer (who?) by 13, Lafayette by 10, Holy Cross by 13, and Lehigh by 9. They do play #5 UNC March 29 at home then #15 Colgate April 5, their only ranked opponents.
BU wins against them in OT. BU friend was complaining about the Army goal that sent it to OT, saying it shouldn't have counted because a player's foot was in the crease. But they win it anyway. So :)
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: CU77 (---.sb.sd.cox.net)
Date: March 22, 2025 02:17PM

Long out
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: jjanow99 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 22, 2025 02:18PM

I was just about to say it would be nice to get the middies involved, then Kelleher scores, from Firth.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: jjanow99 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 22, 2025 02:18PM

Oops reverse that scoring
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: Iceberg (---.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2025 02:24PM

By the end of this game, I think the color guy is going to strangle the refs
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: jjanow99 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 22, 2025 02:25PM

Long is out of the game.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: RichH (---.datapacket.com)
Date: March 22, 2025 02:26PM

Iceberg
By the end of this game, I think the color guy is going to strangle the refs

They wear arm guards for a reason, so slashing should be allowed.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2025 03:01PM

Army and MD lose in OT.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: jjanow99 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 22, 2025 03:06PM

We’ll be #2 on Monday.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: RichH (---.datapacket.com)
Date: March 22, 2025 03:11PM

19-14 final after Yale had a mini-run in the 4th to satisfy the color guy’s long trip fishing for moral victories.

Cee-Jus with 9 G, 1 A. Goldstein also with 10 points.

Why are we so against game threads here?
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 - polls 3/17
Posted by: CU77 (---.sb.sd.cox.net)
Date: March 22, 2025 03:13PM

Long with right arm in a sling at the end ... :-/
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 - polls 3/17
Posted by: chimpfood (---.cit.cornell.edu)
Date: March 22, 2025 03:26PM

CU77
Long with right arm in a sling at the end ... :-/
Hugh, I figured it was the head. Poor guy has always been injured
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: dbilmes (64.224.255.---)
Date: March 22, 2025 03:56PM

I just got back from the game. Great Cornell crowd at game. Just in my section of bleachers I met parents of a Cornell player, a '98 grad who played on the lacrosse team, and a 2010 grad who played club lacrosse, and after the game I got to meet CJ's mom! The overall crowd would have been even if larger if the Yalies weren't on spring break, but there were a lot of youth lacrosse programs there. The former player sitting next to me (I never got his name) was on a text chain during the game with his former teammates, including Chris Danler, who currently holds the school record for most goals in a single game (10). I asked him how Danler felt about CJ possibly tying or breaking his record, and he told me Danler wasn't getting too stressed about it. He recalled correctly that Danler scored the 10 goals against Army, with most of them coming on long-range shots. Bob Brennan also scored 10 goals for Cornell, but since he did so back in 1940, I didn't run into any of his ex-teammates.
As for the game itself, watching CJ in person is amazing. I would hate to be a goalie trying to stop him, as the precision and pace of his shots is even more impressive in person than watching on TV. Once we got a 17-9 lead, the game was over, although Yale did make the final score respectable. It was a shame seeing Long get injured in the closing seconds of the first half. He looked so good before then. Our defense still looks shaky at times, but our offense, even without Long, is scary.
It's been a tough season for Yale, which was a preseason Top Ten. Their offense looked a lot better than when I saw them lose to Army a few weeks ago. Even so, it's still a solid road win for us.
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: TimV (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 23, 2025 10:21PM

Maryland, Penn State, and Army all lose this weekend.

Who's Number One Now?

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 23, 2025 10:23PM

I just watched the replay. (On vacation last week.) Nice win on the road against a dangerous Yale team. I don't have much to add to the great comments above. I am concerned about the open attack players in our defensive middle. I think it happened three times that we lost an attack right in front of the goal, resulting in two scores. The Brendan Staub penalty was disappointing. We are there to play lacrosse. It's not a tough guy competition. But overall, I like how we played really good lacrosse and slowly pulled away through the game, imposing our will and showing that we were the better team. But similar to the Penn State game, we made mistakes in the fourth. In this game, we allowed easy shots down the alley against Lamb and across the top when the Yale ballcarrier outran Walker. This made things really tough on Wyatt, who had a terrific game. I don't know if our defense is tired or just loses concentration, but mistakes lead to goals, whatever the score, and whenever the clock.

That hit to Mikey Long at the end of the first half should have been at least a non-releasable penalty.

Coach called a TO when our ballcarrier was doubled on the backline. That's two games in a row after the PSU débâcle.

It's a lot of fun watching our team play. Our ball movement on offense and shot selections are fun to watch. We play a beautiful game. It helps we have the best college lacrosse player in the known universe.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason) August top 20
Posted by: CU2007 (---.sub-174-197-204.myvzw.com)
Date: March 24, 2025 11:11AM

Numero Uno in the polls this week
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: rss77 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 24, 2025 11:15AM

Good to see the Red ranked #1 but lets see if we can stay on top when it really matters in May. Watching Kirst is like watching Michael Jordan-such incredible head scratching shots he makes. Not going to get caught up in comparing him to likes of French, Pannell, Teat, etc. Appreciate the greatness of watching CJ play. Agreed on the hit to Long. Its a play that one sees too often in lacrosse-leveling the guy right after the shot.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 24, 2025 04:19PM

rss77
Good to see the Red ranked #1 but lets see if we can stay on top when it really matters in May. Watching Kirst is like watching Michael Jordan-such incredible head scratching shots he makes. Not going to get caught up in comparing him to likes of French, Pannell, Teat, etc. Appreciate the greatness of watching CJ play. Agreed on the hit to Long. Its a play that one sees too often in lacrosse-leveling the guy right after the shot.
One still can make mental comparisons among the other great Cornell attackman, and their attributes. Imagine if Jeff Teat '21 was the size of CJ Kirst, or Mike French '76. (I know to a lot of people that going back fifty years is like someone in the French era hearing about a great lacrosse player of the 1920s) Or Eamon McEneaney '77 who was 5-10 150 but with the strength to weight ratio of a trapped squirrel and who played football (150s the moved up to regular). The McEneaney-to-French Connection (there was a 1971 movie French Connection) were incredible the two years they were together, 1975 and 1976, titles in '76 and '77 (made it to semifinals 1975).

And their greatness depends on how good the teammates were that got the faceoffs, groundballs and saves.

I still wish Cornell worked a scheme to get Teat free more.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: March 24, 2025 10:44PM

billhoward
rss77
Good to see the Red ranked #1 but lets see if we can stay on top when it really matters in May. Watching Kirst is like watching Michael Jordan-such incredible head scratching shots he makes. Not going to get caught up in comparing him to likes of French, Pannell, Teat, etc. Appreciate the greatness of watching CJ play. Agreed on the hit to Long. Its a play that one sees too often in lacrosse-leveling the guy right after the shot.
One still can make mental comparisons among the other great Cornell attackman, and their attributes. Imagine if Jeff Teat '21 was the size of CJ Kirst, or Mike French '76. (I know to a lot of people that going back fifty years is like someone in the French era hearing about a great lacrosse player of the 1920s) Or Eamon McEneaney '77 who was 5-10 150 but with the strength to weight ratio of a trapped squirrel and who played football (150s the moved up to regular). The McEneaney-to-French Connection (there was a 1971 movie French Connection) were incredible the two years they were together, 1975 and 1976, titles in '76 and '77 (made it to semifinals 1975).

And their greatness depends on how good the teammates were that got the faceoffs, groundballs and saves.

I still wish Cornell worked a scheme to get Teat free more.

+1

Two other comments:
  • Much of how Cornell does the rest of this season will depend on Long's status and his recovery.
  • You're right about foul that knocked Long out of the game. I was angry at the refs for not making the penalty non-releasable and for not kicking the Yalie who hit him out of the game. The refs have to call the came to protect the players from being hurt, and they clearly failed in this case.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: jjanow99 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 25, 2025 02:38PM

Watching a video of Kirst goals vs Yale, I see that Yale left Goldstein open behind the cage for much of the game. Was this a tactic (which obviously misfired), or just bad defense? He’s such a great passer that it seems that they would want to keep someone on him. Or, maybe they were just too worried about Kirst.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 25, 2025 03:13PM

jjanow99
Watching a video of Kirst goals vs Yale, I see that Yale left Goldstein open behind the cage for much of the game. Was this a tactic (which obviously misfired), or just bad defense? He’s such a great passer that it seems that they would want to keep someone on him. Or, maybe they were just too worried about Kirst.

A lot of defenses leave the X isolated until he receives a pass or is in position to receive a pass. He's usually marked by an LSD in front or around the crease, who adds support while the ball is in front of the goal.
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: March 25, 2025 10:04PM

Here's a link to an Instagram of all Jesus Kirst's scores. I really like the first one. Kirst sets an off ball screen to Dalton, gets the switch, and then Firth seals off the switching D. Kirst spins and gets side open for the slam.

We need to run that at least once a quarter. It's a beauty.

[www.instagram.com]
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 27, 2025 07:04AM

Kirst has 202 career goals. The Division I record is 224, by Virginia's Payton Cormier.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 27, 2025 09:01AM

Any how many of the possible 12 games left does he get to play
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: March 27, 2025 11:27AM

Al DeFlorio
Kirst has 202 career goals. The Division I record is 224, by Virginia's Payton Cormier.

I believe Cormier set this record last year and this year is no longer playing college ball.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 29, 2025 07:49AM

Nice analysis of Kirst's dodges: [youtu.be]

 
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