Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by billhoward
Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: billhoward (---.keznews.com)
Date: August 02, 2024 10:39AM
Updated with most recent information on top and probably not worth scrolling more than two screensful deep.
Week of 4/18/25, final week of Ivy lacrosse
Closer than expected games except for Princeton hammering Yale by 11. Cornell only by 2 over 2-4 (Ivy record) Dartmouth, Harvard only by 1 over 0-6 Brown, and #6 Notre Dame only by 2 at home over 1-5 / 4-10 Penn, which fell from ILT runner-up last year to not-in-tournament.
Week of 4/19/25, penultimate week Ivy lacrosse
2025 Cornell men's lacrosse schedule, all dates/time now final. Cornell Saturday home games are 12 noon (Albany is Tuesday 7 pm). TV is ESPN+ for all home, all Ivy games. Cornell is pre-season ranked at #2 in the coaches polls, #3 in the media poll.
Cornell schedule link
Posted earlier:
Inside Lacrosse Way Too Early Rankings (August 2024). Cornell is #5, plays #2, #3, #8, #9, #10, #13, #14, #17. Too bad for a third NYS opponent (other than Hobart, Syracuse) we got Albany this year not Army.
Posted earlier:
Time for a thread on the 2025 schedule when that comes available, recruits / lacrosse prospects, recruits who enroll and play in the spring of 2025, etcetera.
As we get closer to February and competition, I'll take off the "pre-season" in the subject line or, if this becomes really long, a separate season/games/weekly polls can be created.
Halloween week update: Schedule available for Cornell ... College ... but not our Big Red.
Week of 4/18/25, final week of Ivy lacrosse
Closer than expected games except for Princeton hammering Yale by 11. Cornell only by 2 over 2-4 (Ivy record) Dartmouth, Harvard only by 1 over 0-6 Brown, and #6 Notre Dame only by 2 at home over 1-5 / 4-10 Penn, which fell from ILT runner-up last year to not-in-tournament.
2025 Ivy Men's Lacrosse End of Regular Season School Conf CPct. Overall Pct. Streak Cornell 6-0 1.000 12-1 .923 W8 21st Ivy RS title Princeton 5-1 .833 11-2 .846 W7 27 Ivy titles, not since 2015 Harvard 4-2 .667 10-3 .769 W1 Yale 3-3 .500 5-7 .417 L2 Dartmouth 2-4 .333 8-5 .615 L1 Penn 1-5 .167 4-10 .286 L7 Brown 0-6 .000 3-10 .231 L5 [/bold] Saturday 4/26 scores Cornell 10, Dartmouth 8 Princeton 18, Yale 7 Harvard 11, Brown 10 Notre Dame 10, Penn 8 Friday 5/2 Ivy Tournament, Schoellkopf Field 1 Cornell v. 4. Yale (ILT seeding), 4pm 2 Princeeton v. 4 Harvard, 6:30 pm Championship, Sunday 5/4, 1 pm Ticket Prices Fri & Sun Fri-only Sun-only Premier/Field Level $40 $25 $20 GA/Crescent $20 $15 $10 12 & under (Crescent) $10 $5 $5 Cor-Yale-Princeton-Harvard students free, ditto kids 0-2 No discounted pricing for seniors citedTickets per Ivy League: [app.fanbaseclub.com]
Week of 4/19/25, penultimate week Ivy lacrosse
#1 Cornell 20, #10 Harvard 12 #2 Princeton 12, Penn 8 Dartmouth 13, Brown 9 Albany 15, <choke> Yale 14 OT (RPI Yale 17, Albany 47 before the game) Other scores #4 Army 20, Bucknell 11 #9 Notre Dame 12, #5 NC 6 #11 Richmond 14, #19 UMass 5 #12 Duke 11, #7 Syracuse 7 Ivy Standings 1. Cornell 5-0 11-1 4/26 Dartmouth 2. Princeton 4-1 10-2 Penn 3. Harvard 3-0 9-3 @ Brown 3. Yale 3-2 5-5 @Princeton 5. Dartmouth 2-3 8-4 @Cornell 6. Penn 1-5 4-9 @Notre Dame 7. Brown 0-5 3-9 Harvard 8. Columbia DNPBe nice if Richmond moves into the top ten (gives us a top ten win), let's hope #7 Syracuse stays in the top ten (ditto), #10 Harvard may drop.
2025 Cornell men's lacrosse schedule, all dates/time now final. Cornell Saturday home games are 12 noon (Albany is Tuesday 7 pm). TV is ESPN+ for all home, all Ivy games. Cornell is pre-season ranked at #2 in the coaches polls, #3 in the media poll.
Cornell schedule link
2/15 @Lehigh 12:00 ESPN+ 2/22 Denver 11 am was 12:00 (also: Clarkson, St Lawrence home hockey) 2/25 @Hobart Tuesday 5:00 (TV: HWS All-Access, a Sidearm Sports thing) 3/2 @Richmond Sunday 1:00 ESPN+ 3/8 Penn State 12 noon 3/15 Princeton 12 noon 3/22 @Yale 1:00 3/29 Penn 12 noon 4/1 Albany Tuesday 7 pm 4/5 @ Brown 12 noon 4/12 Syracuse @ Mitchel Field, Uniondale, LI, capacity 10,102) 4 pm TV: College Lacrosse Live 4/19 @ Harvard 12 noon 4/26 Dartmouth 12 noon 5/2 Ivy Lacrosse tournament semifinals (Friday) at higher seed 5/4 ILT final (also NCAA tournament brackets announced) 5/6 2 play-in games (NCAA selection criteria per NCAA) 5/10 NCAA first round Saturday or Sunday 8 games 5/17 Quarterfinal round at Hofstra, Navy-Marine Corps Stadium 5/24 NCAA semifinals @ Gillette Stadium, Foxborough, MA 5/26 Memorial Day, title game, Gillette Stadium* *2027 title game at Lincoln Financial Field Philadelphia, 2028 at Gillette, 2026 is STILL TBD. USILA coaches poll, pre-season Nike/USILA Men's Division I Rankings Rank Team Points Prev 1 Notre Dame (1-0) 559(27) -- 2 Cornell (-) 482(0) -- 3 Syracuse (3-0) 469(1) -- 4 Virginia (1-0) 441(0) -- 5 Princeton (-) 434(0) -- 6 Maryland (2-0) 421(0) -- 7 Duke (2-0) 414(0) -- 8 Johns Hopkins (3-0) 320(0) -- 9 Denver (1-1) 310(0) -- 10 Yale (-) 296(0) -- 11 Georgetown (1-1) 269(0) -- 12 Penn State (2-) 258(0) -- 13 Army (1-0) 254(0) -- 14 Penn (-) 213(0) -- 15 Michigan (1-1) 172(0) -- 16 North Carolina (1-0) 129(0) -- 17 Towson (0-2) 122(0) -- 18 Richmond (1-1) 47(0) -- 19 Harvard (-) 44(0) -- 20 Lehigh (0-2) 43(0) -- Receiving Votes: Ohio State, Loyola, Saint Joseph's, Rutgers, UMBC, Utah, UAlbany, Villanova, Delaware, Boston U, Colgate Combines pre-season poll with team records as of Feb. 10 2025
Posted earlier:
Inside Lacrosse Way Too Early Rankings (August 2024). Cornell is #5, plays #2, #3, #8, #9, #10, #13, #14, #17. Too bad for a third NYS opponent (other than Hobart, Syracuse) we got Albany this year not Army.
1 Notre Dame 2 Syracuse 3 Princeton 4 Maryland 5 Cornell 6 Virginia 7 Duke 8 Yale 9 Hopkins 10 Penn 11 Army 12 Georgetown 13 Denver 14 Penn State 15 Michigan 16 North Carolina 17 Harvard 18 Ohio State 19 Towson 20 Villanova
Posted earlier:
Time for a thread on the 2025 schedule when that comes available, recruits / lacrosse prospects, recruits who enroll and play in the spring of 2025, etcetera.
As we get closer to February and competition, I'll take off the "pre-season" in the subject line or, if this becomes really long, a separate season/games/weekly polls can be created.
Halloween week update: Schedule available for Cornell ... College ... but not our Big Red.
Edited 8 time(s). Last edit at 04/26/2025 10:49PM by billhoward.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason)
Posted by: billhoward (---.keznews.com)
Date: August 02, 2024 10:41AM
Cornell recruits for the Classes of 2024, 2025, 2026, via [www.insidelacrosse.com]
Transfer portal for all college teams, last updated mid-June, via [www.insidelacrosse.com]
From Cornell, midfielders Aiden Blake to Duke and Spencer Wirtheim to North Carolina, as grad students.
Transfer portal for all college teams, last updated mid-June, via [www.insidelacrosse.com]
From Cornell, midfielders Aiden Blake to Duke and Spencer Wirtheim to North Carolina, as grad students.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/02/2024 10:48AM by billhoward.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason) August top 20
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.east.verizon.net)
Date: September 07, 2024 09:50AM
August pre-season D1 men's lacrosse rankings via Inside Lacrosse, 8/22/24:
2025 DI Men's Way-Ahead Rankings: Syracuse, Maryland Among Challengers To Notre Dame 3-Peat Bid
1. Notre Dame
2. Syracuse
3. Princeton (too bad as of 2024 Tigers were not the final Ivy game for Cornell)
4. Maryland
5. Cornell (highest-ranked team that didn't make the 2024 tournament)
6. Virginia
7. Duke
8. Yale
9. Hopkins
10. Penn
11. Army (isn't it time they're back on Cornell's NYS / Pennsylvania rotation)?
12. Georgetown
13. Denver
14. Penn State
15. Michigan
16. North Carolina
17. Harvard
18. Ohio State
19. Towson
20. Villanova
2025 DI Men's Way-Ahead Rankings: Syracuse, Maryland Among Challengers To Notre Dame 3-Peat Bid
1. Notre Dame
2. Syracuse
3. Princeton (too bad as of 2024 Tigers were not the final Ivy game for Cornell)
4. Maryland
5. Cornell (highest-ranked team that didn't make the 2024 tournament)
6. Virginia
7. Duke
8. Yale
9. Hopkins
10. Penn
11. Army (isn't it time they're back on Cornell's NYS / Pennsylvania rotation)?
12. Georgetown
13. Denver
14. Penn State
15. Michigan
16. North Carolina
17. Harvard
18. Ohio State
19. Towson
20. Villanova
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason) August top 20
Posted by: big29red (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: September 14, 2024 07:37PM
Has Coach Buczek pissed off the usual HS stud prospects we usually see commit to Cornell by now for the Class of ‘30 Lax recruits? I say this tongue in cheek, but we are getting smoked on the recruiting front by most of the Ivy teams! Something seems amiss in Ithaca??? We have 2 3* recruits, at positions we really don’t need-Goal and FOGO. We are even losing NY state recruits, to our competitors, I hope this is just an early aberration in this recruiting cycle?
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason) August top 20
Posted by: scoop85 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: September 14, 2024 07:51PM
big29red
Has Coach Buczek pissed off the usual HS stud prospects we usually see commit to Cornell by now for the Class of ‘30 Lax recruits? I say this tongue in cheek, but we are getting smoked on the recruiting front by most of the Ivy teams! Something seems amiss in Ithaca??? We have 2 3* recruits, at positions we really don’t need-Goal and FOGO. We are even losing NY state recruits, to our competitors, I hope this is just an early aberration in this recruiting cycle?
Still very early in the recruiting cycle and plenty of good talent to be had.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason) August top 20
Posted by: big29red (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: September 14, 2024 08:10PM
Hope so-we lose a lot of talent next year and the year after, really need to load up in the midfield. It seems like we loaded up on LSM and close D in the last two years, need much bigger faster, midfielders, as well as D middies now! We could also use some size at attack, the smaller attack get beat up very easily.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason) August top 20
Posted by: Swampy (---.datapacket.com)
Date: September 15, 2024 09:10PM
big29red
Has Coach Buczek pissed off the usual HS stud prospects we usually see commit to Cornell by now for the Class of ‘30 Lax recruits? I say this tongue in cheek, but we are getting smoked on the recruiting front by most of the Ivy teams! Something seems amiss in Ithaca??? We have 2 3* recruits, at positions we really don’t need-Goal and FOGO. We are even losing NY state recruits, to our competitors, I hope this is just an early aberration in this recruiting cycle?
Don't underestimate the 3* recruits. As scoop85 said, it's still early in the recruiting season. Also, these guys are in the Class of 2026, which means guys like Xavier are still 16 Y.O. Give them time. I don't know how these two will turn out, but I'd be willing to bet at least one or more 3*'s in this class will surpass guys who are 5* now by the time their college careers are over.
Then there's this:
'Addicted To Getting Better': Adler's Ascension Into One Of The Best Defensemen In The World
But then, [club coach] Miller sent his highlight tape to Cornell assistant coach Jordan Stevens.
“I still remember vividly that call,” said Adler. “And it was Coach Stevens from Cornell, which was surreal to me because Max Seibald is a Cornell legend and I grew up five houses over from him. So I always looked up to him. I actually played with a Cornell dyed head growing up throughout middle school. So that was that. And then honestly, it was my first time talking to a coach. I mean, obviously smart, respectful, but like I just gave him my story. I was like, ‘Look, man, like I just need someone to take a chance on me.’ And he loved it. And he's like, 'dude, I actually see a lot of potential in you,' but he never saw me play.”
Some coaches just have the knack of recognizing and developing talent. Even if a coach misses 75% of the time, 1-in-4 is not too bad a record if you're developing HOF talent.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason) August top 20
Posted by: billhoward (217.138.208.---)
Date: September 16, 2024 04:22PM
I have been scanning the various Class of '25 (high school class of, so college class of '29, i.e. freshmen in fall 2025), Class of '26 lacrosse player rankings and supposed commitments. There seemed to be fewer-than-expected Cornell commits. Which could mean we're not recruiting well, or this is not the full sampling, or maybe Ivy coaches have to be more cautious until it's clear the players have the credentials to be admitted, or one or two other schools are siphoning would-have-been Cornellians such as, say, Notre Dame?
Regardless, it's not clear how accurate the 5-star, 4-star, etcetera rankings can be as future predictors. And hasn't Cornell gotten more out of a full team effort rather than living off of having the most HS 5-stars on the team?
We'll gain an advantage among the Ivies when the Meinig indoor field house finally opens in 2026. It appears to be past the local carping about forever chemicals in the rubbery crumbs sprinkled onto/into the plastic blades of grass. I see the NCAA says the dimensions are big enough for lacrosse play if desired (ie February) but it's not wide enough for soccer and not what's preferred to field hockey. The most recent Cornell Sun article gives a bigly amount of space to the critics [cornellsun.com]
Regardless, it's not clear how accurate the 5-star, 4-star, etcetera rankings can be as future predictors. And hasn't Cornell gotten more out of a full team effort rather than living off of having the most HS 5-stars on the team?
We'll gain an advantage among the Ivies when the Meinig indoor field house finally opens in 2026. It appears to be past the local carping about forever chemicals in the rubbery crumbs sprinkled onto/into the plastic blades of grass. I see the NCAA says the dimensions are big enough for lacrosse play if desired (ie February) but it's not wide enough for soccer and not what's preferred to field hockey. The most recent Cornell Sun article gives a bigly amount of space to the critics [cornellsun.com]
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason) August top 20
Posted by: big29red (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: September 17, 2024 06:41PM
I have been doing the same thing Bill- As I've mentioned above, something doesn't seem right with the '26 recruiting. Dartmouth, just today, announced a 5* attackman out of Loomis Chaffee, P-ton w/ another 4* pole out of Culver Academy. Folks have said "it's early, we will get ours:...etc. Previously, by this time in the past 3 years, we've had loaded classes! We lose a lot of talent in the next 2 years, now we're being out recruited by Dartmouth!!! I'm not buying the "excuses" of wait and see, and we get lower ranked players who rise up; we don't have anyone , or at least anyone that's come public other than 2 previously mentioned recruits (a goalie and FOGO). Cornell hasn't even listed the current frosh recruits in the published roster on the Athletics website. Also, as per usual, we cannot compete w/ ND, Duke, UNC and UVA for the premier players, now we're losing them to Dartmouth. We can' get the kids from NY/LI to commit- that should be our bread and butter. The Meinig Fieldhouse will be just opened when these '26 recruits get on campus- the lack of an indoor facility should not be a deterrent.
I hope that the coaching staff is still intact and presenting a cohesive picture of what it means to be a Cornell lacrosse player. This all doesn't seem right???
Also, I wasn't complaining about the goalie and Fogo recruits only being 3* recruits; my point was that based on the 2 recruiting classes ahead of the '26's, we really don't need another goalie or FOGO- we need middies, d-middies and attackmen to replace what we're losing in the next 2 years. Preferably, some with size, speed and athleticism to match up with what the other Ivy's are bringing in!
I hope that the coaching staff is still intact and presenting a cohesive picture of what it means to be a Cornell lacrosse player. This all doesn't seem right???
Also, I wasn't complaining about the goalie and Fogo recruits only being 3* recruits; my point was that based on the 2 recruiting classes ahead of the '26's, we really don't need another goalie or FOGO- we need middies, d-middies and attackmen to replace what we're losing in the next 2 years. Preferably, some with size, speed and athleticism to match up with what the other Ivy's are bringing in!
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/19/2024 08:12AM by big29red.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason) August top 20
Posted by: big29red (---.sub-174-212-107.myvzw.com)
Date: September 19, 2024 11:09AM
Harvard just landed their 2nd 5* recruit!
A lefty attack from Deerfield! Described as follows: “a taller Jeff Teat”-
Oh well- maybe I’m over reacting about the lack of recruiting for this ‘26 cycle???
I assume we still have CB and JS as our coaches and they’re not checked out, or asleep at the wheel? ( I say this with just a bit of sarcasm)!
A lefty attack from Deerfield! Described as follows: “a taller Jeff Teat”-
Oh well- maybe I’m over reacting about the lack of recruiting for this ‘26 cycle???
I assume we still have CB and JS as our coaches and they’re not checked out, or asleep at the wheel? ( I say this with just a bit of sarcasm)!
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason) August top 20
Posted by: scoop85 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: September 19, 2024 12:47PM
big29red
Harvard just landed their 2nd 5* recruit!
A lefty attack from Deerfield! Described as follows: “a taller Jeff Teat”-
Oh well- maybe I’m over reacting about the lack of recruiting for this ‘26 cycle???
I assume we still have CB and JS as our coaches and they’re not checked out, or asleep at the wheel? ( I say this with just a bit of sarcasm)!
I’ll admit to be a little bit concerned that we haven’t made a bigger splash in the current recruiting cycle compared with some of our peers. Hopefully we start getting some more commitments soon .
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason) August top 20
Posted by: big29red (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: September 19, 2024 12:51PM
Yes- this is a bit disconcerting. We are usually right up there with Princeton and Yale for recruiting, we are now behind, even lagging in back of Dartmouth. We usually don’t keep up with the $$$ (ACC, Big 10)schools, but the other Ivy’s?? Something seems a little askew up in Ithaca!
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason) August top 20
Posted by: semsox (---.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
Date: September 19, 2024 08:43PM
Not to be blunt, but I kind of feel like the 'concern' being discussed here is not really based in reality? What about our coaching staff over the past few seasons would lead someone to believe they are suddenly dropping the ball on recruiting? What kind of track record do these recruiting lists have that would make one think they should be treated as a true report card on the incoming class? Until I see a drop off on the field, the recruiting rankings, etc. are just a distraction
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason) August top 20
Posted by: big29red (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: September 19, 2024 09:26PM
The drop off will not be seen this upcoming season, we have the horses! 2026-8, will be tough if the recruiting doesn’t pick up to the level of our peers in the Ivy. It’s no wonder that Coach Moran’s teams in the 70’s won as much as they did- he got all the top recruits on Long Island and brought in the Canadians. Top it off with the great coaching ( which we currently have), made for championship seasons!
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason) August top 20
Posted by: Swampy (---.datapacket.com)
Date: September 20, 2024 08:11AM
semsox
Not to be blunt, but I kind of feel like the 'concern' being discussed here is not really based in reality? What about our coaching staff over the past few seasons would lead someone to believe they are suddenly dropping the ball on recruiting? What kind of track record do these recruiting lists have that would make one think they should be treated as a true report card on the incoming class? Until I see a drop off on the field, the recruiting rankings, etc. are just a distraction
I don't think we can have it both ways. When Jeff Teat signed with Cornell as the top recruit in his class, there was lots of ballyhoo. And Jeff delivered, even if COVID cheated us (and him) out of his full potential time in Ithaca. And four-stars are the majority of recruits for years '24 & '25. Currently, recruiting for '26 is strangely out of whack with other years.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason) August top 20
Posted by: big29red (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: September 20, 2024 10:10AM
Agree- let’s hope it turns our way soon!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/20/2024 10:37AM by big29red.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason) August top 20
Posted by: dag14 (---.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
Date: September 20, 2024 01:56PM
Rob Pannell wasn't close to being a top recruit. I am not sure Gavin Adler was either. Look how they turned out. Maybe the system has something to do with it....
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason) August top 20
Posted by: billhoward (45.144.113.---)
Date: September 20, 2024 02:16PM
Pannell was a very good not fab recruit out of HS, a Quinnipiac lax intender. At Smithtown West High School he set the school record with 130 points and then set Deerfield's single-season record with 99 points.dag14
Rob Pannell wasn't close to being a top recruit. I am not sure Gavin Adler was either. Look how they turned out. Maybe the system has something to do with it....
Gavin Adler? If you heard a 5-foot-8, 180-pounder pushed attackers around in high school, you'd say, "Well, that was high school." So he was a bit under the radar.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason) August top 20
Posted by: big29red (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: September 20, 2024 02:36PM
There is no doubt the system has something to do with it. However, all I am saying is that we don’t have the number of recruits that we’ve had in the past years, in this particular recruiting cycle. At least they have not put it out there yet. For some reason, they haven’t even announced the entering freshman class, that’s usually done by now, on the Cornell athletic website, even on Instagram there’s usually a picture of the incoming class. Nothing, crickets. As I stated previously I’m not railing against our lack of higher star recruits (although that will come to bite us in the butt in a few years). I’m just stating, we have a lower number of actual recruits in this cycle than we usually have by now, and the other IVY’s, our peers, have all seemingly out recruited us at this point.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/20/2024 02:42PM by big29red.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason) August top 20
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: September 20, 2024 07:50PM
big29red
There is no doubt the system has something to do with it. However, all I am saying is that we don’t have the number of recruits that we’ve had in the past years, in this particular recruiting cycle. At least they have not put it out there yet. For some reason, they haven’t even announced the entering freshman class, that’s usually done by now, on the Cornell athletic website, even on Instagram there’s usually a picture of the incoming class. Nothing, crickets. As I stated previously I’m not railing against our lack of higher star recruits (although that will come to bite us in the butt in a few years). I’m just stating, we have a lower number of actual recruits in this cycle than we usually have by now, and the other IVY’s, our peers, have all seemingly out recruited us at this point.
We'll be ok.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason) August top 20
Posted by: big29red (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: September 22, 2024 02:06PM
Well, we picked up one more recruit! A midfielder out of the Syracuse area. One poster on the fan lax forum says he has a lot of potential and speed! Hopefully we add a bunch more, 3 total recruits isn’t going to cut it. Almost the entire top 100 recruits are already committed, none to the Red! As I’ve stated before, we are going to have a rough few years in ‘26-‘28, unless we can pick this up or get some impact transfers. We lose a ton of talent in the next 2 years.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason) August top 20
Posted by: RichH (---.cust.tzulo.com)
Date: September 23, 2024 02:09AM
The breathless daily report of the sky's position vis-à-vis its falling is going to get old very quickly.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason) August top 20
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: September 23, 2024 04:03AM
Already has.RichH
The breathless daily report of the sky's position vis-à-vis its falling is going to get old very quickly.
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Al DeFlorio '65
Al DeFlorio '65
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason) August top 20
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: September 23, 2024 11:46AM
The fact that our recruiting is much worse than it has been in recent seasons, as determined by the one publicly available rating system we have access to, seems like a perfectly valid criticism.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason) August top 20
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: September 23, 2024 12:12PM
You missed the word "daily."BearLover
The fact that our recruiting is much worse than it has been in recent seasons, as determined by the one publicly available rating system we have access to, seems like a perfectly valid criticism.
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Al DeFlorio '65
Al DeFlorio '65
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason) August top 20
Posted by: abmarks (---.hsd1.vt.comcast.net)
Date: September 24, 2024 03:13PM
BearLover
The fact that our recruiting is much worse than it has been in recent seasons, as determined by the one publicly available rating system we have access to, seems like a perfectly valid criticism.
Actually agree with bearlover. Just like draft picks matter, so do top ranked recruits
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason) August top 20
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: September 24, 2024 05:50PM
I don't think anyone disagrees with the concern over recruiting. The point RichH made was it doesn't need to get posted every tim the recruit list is browsed.abmarks
BearLover
The fact that our recruiting is much worse than it has been in recent seasons, as determined by the one publicly available rating system we have access to, seems like a perfectly valid criticism.
Actually agree with bearlover. Just like draft picks matter, so do top ranked recruits
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Al DeFlorio '65
Al DeFlorio '65
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason)
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: September 26, 2024 07:03AM
A 4-star: [www.insidelacrosse.com]
Video: [youtu.be]
Video: [youtu.be]
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Al DeFlorio '65
Al DeFlorio '65
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason)
Posted by: Ken711 (---.clppva.fios.verizon.net)
Date: September 26, 2024 07:23AM
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason)
Posted by: scoop85 (---.biz.spectrum.com)
Date: September 26, 2024 09:43AM
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason)
Posted by: Swampy (---.datapacket.com)
Date: September 26, 2024 04:22PM
By my count, the 21st attacker in the class.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason)
Posted by: CU77 (---.sb.sd.cox.net)
Date: October 29, 2024 04:11AM
Cornell scrimmaged at Maryland last Saturday. Reports from some who were there:
[fanlax.com]
And a few minutes of video:
[www.youtube.com]
[fanlax.com]
And a few minutes of video:
[www.youtube.com]
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason)
Posted by: mike1960 (86.48.9.---)
Date: October 29, 2024 02:15PM
Scoring by different guys. That's a huge positive! I look for Graham to have a break out year.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason) August top 20
Posted by: ThunderDome (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: October 29, 2024 03:36PM
Need to trust the coaches in a highly competitive environment and that they're finding kids for what they will be in 2 years vs. what Inside Lacrosse is suggesting at 16. The Johnson kid is a great player and the Santillo kid has unlimited upside as well. Would be willing to bet there's a lot of diamonds in the rough, and believe that the coaches are looking for the kid that has the athleticism to develop before they arrive on campus.
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 – 2025 PLL mock draft Kirst No. 1
Posted by: billhoward (---.keznews.com)
Date: October 29, 2024 04:08PM
CJ Kirst will the first pick of the 2025 Premier Lacrosse League. Six of the top 10 are projected to be Ivy League players. This per the Inside Lacrosse 2025 PLL Mock Draft as of Oct. 29, 2024, by Kevin Brown, [www.insidelacrosse.com]
Premier Lacrosse League Draft 1st Round 1. Philadelphia Waterdogs: CJ Kirst, A, Cornell 2. California Redwoods: Chris Kavanagh, A, Notre Dame 3. Denver Outlaws: Andrew McAdorey, M, Duke 4. Boston Cannons: Coulter Mackesy, A, Princeton 5. Carolina Chaos: Sam King, A, Harvard 6. New York Atlas: Brendan Lavelle, D, Penn 7. Maryland Whipsnakes: Ben Ramsey, SSDM, Notre Dame 8. Utah Archers: Sam English, M, Syracuse/Princeton 2nd Round 9. Philadelphia Waterdogs: Will Coletti, FO, Army 10. California Redwoods: Emmet Carroll, G, Penn 11. Denver Outlaws: Jimmy Freehill, D, Denver 12. Boston Cannons: Jake Taylor, A, Notre Dame 13. Carolina Chaos: Griffin Schutz, M, Virginia 14. New York Atlas: Ryan Cohen, A/M, Michigan 15. Philadelphia Waterdogs (via Maryland Whipsnakes): Ben Wayer, LSM, Virginia 16. Utah Archers: Levi Verch, D, Saint Joseph’sAmong the next 20 top players but outside the first two draft rounds is Cornell's Michael Long, per Inside Lacrosse.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason) August top 20
Posted by: ThunderDome (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: October 30, 2024 01:20PM
Rankings are not really that far apart between the Ivy's, and what can change the ranking is landing a 5 star which can skew the final numbers. Plus, the service academies are getting higher ranked players where the education is comparable and the cost is free. New legislation will likely cap roster sizes at 48 which means you are only looking at 12 recruits or less per class based on need.
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason)
Posted by: Local Motion (192.92.157.---)
Date: October 31, 2024 04:42PM
One of the best recent recruits is Ryan Goldstein who last year, like many freshman in college athletics was undersized at 5'9" and 145 lbs. Time in the weight room and probably just natural growth he has the potential to be a super star for Cornell lacrosse. My nephew plays for a very strong DIII program and he was pushed all over the league his freshman season, but last spring as a sophomore he scored 40 goals and 20 assists earning all conference honors. Again he's not playing at the DI level, but just his size, strength, and overall skills skyrocketed with maturity and time in the weight room. Go Big Red!
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason) August top 20
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.east.verizon.net)
Date: November 04, 2024 01:37PM
We have a niece playing at Army West Point (saying that is kind of like saying The Ohio State). It's a free ride. There is a 4-6 year no-cut pro contract attached.ThunderDome
Plus, the service academies are getting higher ranked players where the education is comparable and the cost is free. [www.insidelacrosse.com]
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason)
Posted by: Chousnake (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 05, 2024 08:36AM
Anybody having trouble accessing the FanLax forum?
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason)
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.ashnvax2.pop.starlinkisp.net)
Date: November 05, 2024 09:15AM
YesChousnake
Anybody having trouble accessing the FanLax forum?
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason)
Posted by: Chousnake (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 05, 2024 11:00AM
Thanks for confirming that the problem is not on my end.Chousnake
Anybody having trouble accessing the FanLax forum?
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason)
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.east.verizon.net)
Date: November 16, 2024 06:38PM
My browser blocked FanLax but gave me the choice to ignore and click through.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason)
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 26, 2024 04:27PM
I saw this posted on fanlax
2025 Schedule:
2/15: Lehigh (A)
2/22: Denver (H)
2/25: Hobart (A)
3/2: Richmond (A)
3/8: Penn State (H)
3/15: Princeton (H)
3/22: Yale (A)
3/29: Penn (H)
4/1: Albany (H)
4/5: Brown (A)
4/12: Syracuse (Neutral Site on Long Island)
4/19: Harvard (A)
4/26: Darmouth (H; Senior Day)
2025 Schedule:
2/15: Lehigh (A)
2/22: Denver (H)
2/25: Hobart (A)
3/2: Richmond (A)
3/8: Penn State (H)
3/15: Princeton (H)
3/22: Yale (A)
3/29: Penn (H)
4/1: Albany (H)
4/5: Brown (A)
4/12: Syracuse (Neutral Site on Long Island)
4/19: Harvard (A)
4/26: Darmouth (H; Senior Day)
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason)
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: November 26, 2024 08:19PM
upprdeck
I saw this posted on fanlax
2025 Schedule:
2/15: Lehigh (A)
2/22: Denver (H)
2/25: Hobart (A)
3/2: Richmond (A)
3/8: Penn State (H)
3/15: Princeton (H)
3/22: Yale (A)
3/29: Penn (H)
4/1: Albany (H)
4/5: Brown (A)
4/12: Syracuse (Neutral Site on Long Island)
4/19: Harvard (A)
4/26: Darmouth (H; Senior Day)
A standard schedule -- no Ohio State, Michigan, or Notre Dame this time. I wish Cornell played Princeton in the last game of the season.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason)
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.229.167.165.res-cmts.sm3.ptd.net)
Date: November 26, 2024 11:15PM
Figures we play Lehigh in Bethlehem in February. I'll be away and can't attend.

Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason)
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 27, 2024 03:18AM
mike1960
upprdeck
I saw this posted on fanlax
2025 Schedule:
2/15: Lehigh (A)
2/22: Denver (H)
2/25: Hobart (A)
3/2: Richmond (A)
3/8: Penn State (H)
3/15: Princeton (H)
3/22: Yale (A)
3/29: Penn (H)
4/1: Albany (H)
4/5: Brown (A)
4/12: Syracuse (Neutral Site on Long Island)
4/19: Harvard (A)
4/26: Darmouth (H; Senior Day)
A standard schedule -- no Ohio State, Michigan, or Notre Dame this time. I wish Cornell played Princeton in the last game of the season.
Denver at home is a nice get.
How is Albany good?
How is Albany good in anything?
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason)
Posted by: Weder (---.hsd1.va.comcast.net)
Date: November 27, 2024 08:51AM
Trotsky
mike1960
upprdeck
I saw this posted on fanlax
2025 Schedule:
2/15: Lehigh (A)
2/22: Denver (H)
2/25: Hobart (A)
3/2: Richmond (A)
3/8: Penn State (H)
3/15: Princeton (H)
3/22: Yale (A)
3/29: Penn (H)
4/1: Albany (H)
4/5: Brown (A)
4/12: Syracuse (Neutral Site on Long Island)
4/19: Harvard (A)
4/26: Darmouth (H; Senior Day)
A standard schedule -- no Ohio State, Michigan, or Notre Dame this time. I wish Cornell played Princeton in the last game of the season.
Denver at home is a nice get.
How is Albany good?
How is Albany good in anything?
Hasn't Albany regressed to being a middle-of-the-road team since that stretch where they had the Thompsons and TD Ierlan? Are they the type of team that just looks to be strong enough to get into the tournament via an auto-bid? I don't follow lacrosse that closely.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason)
Posted by: scoop85 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: November 27, 2024 08:58AM
Weder
Trotsky
mike1960
upprdeck
I saw this posted on fanlax
2025 Schedule:
2/15: Lehigh (A)
2/22: Denver (H)
2/25: Hobart (A)
3/2: Richmond (A)
3/8: Penn State (H)
3/15: Princeton (H)
3/22: Yale (A)
3/29: Penn (H)
4/1: Albany (H)
4/5: Brown (A)
4/12: Syracuse (Neutral Site on Long Island)
4/19: Harvard (A)
4/26: Darmouth (H; Senior Day)
A standard schedule -- no Ohio State, Michigan, or Notre Dame this time. I wish Cornell played Princeton in the last game of the season.
Denver at home is a nice get.
How is Albany good?
How is Albany good in anything?
Hasn't Albany regressed to being a middle-of-the-road team since that stretch where they had the Thompsons and TD Ierlan? Are they the type of team that just looks to be strong enough to get into the tournament via an auto-bid? I don't follow lacrosse that closely.
Albany has gone through a lull over the past few years, but they were better last year and seem to be trending in a positive direction.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason)
Posted by: ugarte (---.sub-174-216-212.myvzw.com)
Date: November 27, 2024 11:20AM
Why wouldn't they be? It's one of the flagship universities in a big state. If they decide to commit resources, they can build something. Go off on Q all you like as a hedge fund with a diploma-granting arm but damn.Trotsky
How is Albany good?
How is Albany good in anything?
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason)
Posted by: marty (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: November 27, 2024 12:24PM
ugarte
Why wouldn't they be? It's one of the flagship universities in a big state. If they decide to commit resources, they can build something. Go off on Q all you like as a hedge fund with a diploma-granting arm but damn.Trotsky
How is Albany good?
How is Albany good in anything?
Because the SUNY schools really don't care? There was hype when Albany tried to gain traction in football and lacrosse but except for those couple of years in lacrosse it was less influential in moving their cred than the Siena Poll.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason)
Posted by: Iceberg (---.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)
Date: November 27, 2024 12:32PM
Trotsky
mike1960
upprdeck
I saw this posted on fanlax
2025 Schedule:
2/15: Lehigh (A)
2/22: Denver (H)
2/25: Hobart (A)
3/2: Richmond (A)
3/8: Penn State (H)
3/15: Princeton (H)
3/22: Yale (A)
3/29: Penn (H)
4/1: Albany (H)
4/5: Brown (A)
4/12: Syracuse (Neutral Site on Long Island)
4/19: Harvard (A)
4/26: Darmouth (H; Senior Day)
A standard schedule -- no Ohio State, Michigan, or Notre Dame this time. I wish Cornell played Princeton in the last game of the season.
Denver at home is a nice get.
How is Albany good?
How is Albany good in anything?
Albany is a pretty large school that is well-located and not too far from downstate, so it's very ideal for those kids who don't want to go too far away from Long Island but still want to play for a decent program. Also, the school has definitely shed away the party reputation it used to have before 10-15 years ago and has gotten better from what I understand
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason)
Posted by: Swampy (---.west.xps.vectant.ne.jp)
Date: November 28, 2024 02:59AM
Iceberg
Trotsky
mike1960
upprdeck
I saw this posted on fanlax
2025 Schedule:
2/15: Lehigh (A)
2/22: Denver (H)
2/25: Hobart (A)
3/2: Richmond (A)
3/8: Penn State (H)
3/15: Princeton (H)
3/22: Yale (A)
3/29: Penn (H)
4/1: Albany (H)
4/5: Brown (A)
4/12: Syracuse (Neutral Site on Long Island)
4/19: Harvard (A)
4/26: Darmouth (H; Senior Day)
A standard schedule -- no Ohio State, Michigan, or Notre Dame this time. I wish Cornell played Princeton in the last game of the season.
Denver at home is a nice get.
How is Albany good?
How is Albany good in anything?
Albany is a pretty large school that is well-located and not too far from downstate, so it's very ideal for those kids who don't want to go too far away from Long Island but still want to play for a decent program. Also, the school has definitely shed away the party reputation it used to have before 10-15 years ago and has gotten better from what I understand
Yeah, but it sure resembles a prison.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason)
Posted by: Local Motion (192.92.157.---)
Date: December 05, 2024 04:24PM
I think it's awesome the Cornell vs. Syracuse game will be played on Long Island on Saturday, April 12th! Even though it's a travel contest, this venue is in the heart of both the Cornell and Syracuse alumni base. Last year the Cornell vs. Notre Dame game drew a big crowd for both programs at Bethpage Stadium The NYC Metro area is in Cornell's DNA. Go Big Red!
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason)
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: January 15, 2025 04:05PM
Inside Lacrosse ranks Cornell's attack #1 and midfield #3 in Division 1.
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason)
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-229-81.myvzw.com)
Date: January 15, 2025 09:00PM
A few months ago there was some hoopla on here about future lacrosse recruiting classes not looking too good. Has that improved at all, or not really?
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason)
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: January 16, 2025 01:09AM
BearLover
A few months ago there was some hoopla on here about future lacrosse recruiting classes not looking too good. Has that improved at all, or not really?
It's hard to tell. I analyzed Inside Lacrosse's recruiting data last August, and I updated the analysis for incoming classes last fall (2024) and next (2025). Since then the status of a number of players has changed.
IL scores players with 5, 4, or 3 stars. It also ranks players and reports the ranks of the top 100 players. I examined the seven Ivy teams and Notre Dame (as a benchmark). For each team I recorded the number of players with 5, 4, 3, or 0 stars, the total and average number of stars on the team (players with no stars were scored as 1), and the number of ranked players on the team.
Evidently IL evaluated several players since last summer, since the number of ranked Ivy players now is about double what it was in August, and the numbers of stared players on individual teams also changed. Some players were ranked higher and some lower, but average star scores mildly increased. This probably reflects Ivy recruiting, which looks for good players with sufficient academic chops to be admitted and succeed at Ivy academics.
Cornell coaches say they don't put much stock in IL's and other rankings, and the pattern of changes reflects this. More than most Ivies, Cornell's scores increased substantially since last August. But also looking at the Ivy League as a whole, 2024 recruits score higher than 2025 recruits. For example, the average number of ranked player is 4.0 in 2024 and 3.3 in 2025. I believe this is mainly an artifact of IL's evaluation more than anything else. We should expect 2025 scores to increase during the spring, as the recruits play their senior season, mature, and IL gets a chance to rate them.
So, what do the data show us? First consider Notre Dame. For 2024, it had 3x5*, 5x4*, 4x3* -- for an average of 3.9 stars, with 7 ranked players. But winning consecutive NC's apparently does wonders for recruiting. For 2025 ND already has 4x5*, 8x4*, and 1x3* (average 4.2*), with 12 ranked players -- i.e., 12 of the top 100 in the country according to IL.
Compare Cornell. For 2024, the average 2024 recruit has 3.4 stars, and the average 2025 recruit has 3.5. This is below the 2024 league average, 3.5, and above the 2025 average of 3.1. Cornell also has 4 ranked (top 100) recruits in both years.
Now consider other Ivies. With an average of 4.1 stars, Princeton leads the pack in 2024. Other 2024 leaders include Harvard (3.8), Penn (3.5), and Brown (3.4). Princeton and Harvard also each have 6 ranked recruits, Penn has 5, and Yale has 4. A bit surprising, Yale averages only 3.3 stars and has 4 ranked players. In short, for 2024 Cornell's recruiting is about in the middle of the Ivies.
With the fall adjustments, Cornell looks better for 2025. We're tied with Princeton with the highest average number of stars (3.5). Yale follows with 3.4, and Harvard is at 3.2. Along with Penn, we have one of the two 5* recruits in the league (#18, attackman Rowyn Nurry). And Princeton has 6 top-100 ranked players, but we have 4 (as does Harvard).
In sum, as a whole the recruiting gap between the Ivies and the most elite programs is consistently substantial. But Cornell's most recent two recruiting classes are towards either the middle or the top of the Ivy League.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason)
Posted by: jjanow99 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: January 17, 2025 01:07PM
Report on FanLax of Cornell middle out for the year with torn ACL, anybody know who this is?
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason)
Posted by: TimV (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: January 17, 2025 04:37PM
jjanow99
Report on FanLax of Cornell middle out for the year with torn ACL, anybody know who this is?
Another poster says it's Nikolic.
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason)
Posted by: margolism (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: January 18, 2025 01:15PM
Wasn't he injured last season too? Or was that Cascaddan?
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (preseason)
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: January 18, 2025 01:52PM
Cascadden, not Nikolic. Latter a second line mid last year.margolism
Wasn't he injured last season too? Or was that Cascaddan?
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (RS starts, not Ivies)
Posted by: billhoward (---.oakpure.com)
Date: February 02, 2025 12:24PM
A couple dozen D1 lacrosse games kicked off the regular season among non-Ivy teams but including Cornell opponents this year or recently, including Bucknell, Lafayette, Lehigh, #2 Syracuse (24-5 over Jacksonville), TOSU, Colgate (14-9 loser to Penn State). Cornell opens in two weeks, 2/15 at Lehigh, then home to Denver 2/22 11 am (this is the RS final hockey home weekend versus Union and RPI Clarkson and St. Lawrence).
The initial polls are:
1. ND
2. Syracuse
3. Cornell
4. Princeton
5. Maryland
6. Virginia
7. Duke
8. Hopkins
9. Yale
10. Denver
[www.insidelacrosse.com]
The initial polls are:
1. ND
2. Syracuse
3. Cornell
4. Princeton
5. Maryland
6. Virginia
7. Duke
8. Hopkins
9. Yale
10. Denver
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/02/2025 05:09PM by billhoward.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (RS starts, not Ivies)
Posted by: arugula (---.s2163.c3-0.avec-cbr2.nyr-avec.ny.cable.rcncustomer.com)
Date: February 02, 2025 01:33PM
Sure can’t question our OOC.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 (RS starts, not Ivies)
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: February 02, 2025 01:45PM
billhoward
A couple dozen D1 lacrosse games kicked off the regular season among non-Ivy teams but including Cornell opponents this year or recently, including Bucknell, Lafayette, Lehigh, #2 Syracuse (24-5 over Jacksonville), TOSU, Colgate (14-9 loser to Penn State). Cornell opens in two weeks, 2/15 at Lehigh, then home to Denver 2/22 11 am (this is the RS final hockey home weekend versus Union and RPI).
The initial polls are:
1. ND
2. Syracuse
3. Cornell
4. Princeton
5. Maryland
6. Virginia
7. Duke
8. Hopkins
9. Yale
10. Denver
[www.insidelacrosse.com]
We play Clark/STL at home the weekend of the 21/22
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 — @Lehigh 2/15 11am not 12
Posted by: billhoward (83.229.26.---)
Date: February 14, 2025 12:48PM
Snowy forecast has Lehigh and Cornell moving their game from noon to 11 am. Free admission, or on ESPN+. Lehigh opened Feb. 1, lost to Rutgers 10-6, improved that last Friday to a 10-7 loss to Fairfield. #2 / #3 Cornell should win handily. In theory. Cornell game preview: [cornellbigred.com]
If you're crazy enough to drive (I'm, ah, sort of tempted): 151 Goodman Drive, Bethlehem, Pa., parking in the lots outside Stabler Arena. [lehighsports.com] Forecast says 30 degrees at gametime, snow showers change to snow at 1pm. If you're for some reason driving I-80 through NJ (Lehigh is off I-78), I-80 may still be closed one or both directions b/c another sinkhole opened in Wharton NJ (town, not the Penn school) about 10 miles west of I-287.
According to Lehigh, the fields & buildings at this complex were designed by Lehigh students using their learnings in engineering, architecture, marketing, and budgeting. One money saver: a two-sided press box, that is one press box sits between two fields, if I'm reading Lehigh's notes correctly.
Connor Buczek
We will be shifting up the start time to 11am for tomorrow's game against Lehigh in Bethlehem, PA. The forecast is calling for several inches of snow in the afternoon so we are hoping that the earlier start will allow us to get the game in without any weather issues. The game will not be a ticketed event, so it will be open and free to the public. We hope to see lots of Red in the stands for our season opener!
If you're crazy enough to drive (I'm, ah, sort of tempted): 151 Goodman Drive, Bethlehem, Pa., parking in the lots outside Stabler Arena. [lehighsports.com] Forecast says 30 degrees at gametime, snow showers change to snow at 1pm. If you're for some reason driving I-80 through NJ (Lehigh is off I-78), I-80 may still be closed one or both directions b/c another sinkhole opened in Wharton NJ (town, not the Penn school) about 10 miles west of I-287.
According to Lehigh, the fields & buildings at this complex were designed by Lehigh students using their learnings in engineering, architecture, marketing, and budgeting. One money saver: a two-sided press box, that is one press box sits between two fields, if I'm reading Lehigh's notes correctly.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/14/2025 01:06PM by billhoward.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: February 14, 2025 10:48PM
I don't understand why Cornell doesn't have a list of some kind to let people know when things like game times get changed. Its not only people with tickets who care. Without reading this board how would most people know the game has been moved up? Its not even on the cornellbigred.com site as a note unless you go clicking around to look for it. if nothing else put it in the scroll or the feed.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: dag14 (---.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
Date: February 14, 2025 11:28PM
I got an email from Coach Buczek early this morning sharing the information which is likely the source for the person who posted the info here. I don't think the decision was made before today. It was on the Athletics homepage at some point this afternoon when I went in to confirm the start time of women's hockey, but the stories posted rotate and as results of today's games/matches came in, I am guessing an announcement about a time change at an away event that doesn't require tickets was easy to rotate off.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: February 15, 2025 11:02AM
It feels like Christmas morning!
Go Big Red!!
Go Big Red!!
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: February 15, 2025 11:08AM
The camera person is trying to follow the ball and not always succeeding. The camera is moving all over the place. I'm getting dizzy trying to watch.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: February 15, 2025 11:21AM
Sweet offense finds Kirst on the door.
3-1 Good Guys.
3-1 Good Guys.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: February 15, 2025 11:32AM
5-3 Cornell at the end of the first quarter.
2 Lehigh goals came on an EMO. We need to get better on our man-down defense this year, or stop committing penalties.
2 Lehigh goals came on an EMO. We need to get better on our man-down defense this year, or stop committing penalties.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: February 15, 2025 11:38AM
We are moving the ball extremely well in game one. The players are trying more skip passes to get wide open shots. Interesting.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: chimpfood (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: February 15, 2025 11:44AM
Man every year I forget how fun lacrosse is. Offense is looking how it should.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: February 15, 2025 12:03PM
10-5 Good Guys at the half.
Cascadden looks good at the FOGO position so far.
Cascadden looks good at the FOGO position so far.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: February 15, 2025 12:10PM
Cascadden 8 of 13mike1960
10-5 Good Guys at the half.
Cascadden looks good at the FOGO position so far.
Ricci 3 of 4
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: February 15, 2025 12:26PM
Not crazy about Wyatt's clearing passes right in front of the goal.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: February 15, 2025 12:37PM
Lehigh is not playing great defense in the snowfall blizzard.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/15/2025 12:59PM by mike1960.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: February 15, 2025 01:03PM
We're missing shots in the fourth quarter. Probably wet mesh.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: February 15, 2025 01:10PM
Game final: Lehigh 10, Cornell 18
Good start to the season.
Good start to the season.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 15, 2025 02:10PM
sloppy last 15+min but the Lehigh goalie made a ton of saves as well
man down needs work for sure
man down needs work for sure
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: Ken711 (---.clppva.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 15, 2025 04:12PM
Nice win!
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 15, 2025 07:34PM
watched bits and pieces of the middle quarters and i liked it.
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: arugula (---.s2163.c3-0.avec-cbr2.nyr-avec.ny.cable.rcncustomer.com)
Date: February 15, 2025 08:19PM
ugarte
watched bits and pieces of the middle quarters and i liked it.
Not that it matters but should be up to 2 this week. Good test next week.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 — CU 18 Lehigh 10 2/15/25
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 16, 2025 03:38PM
Cornell 1-0 5 5 6 2 — 18 Lehigh 2-1 3 2 3 2 — 10 Box score: [cornellbigred.com]
Big Red offense looked very good: CJ Kirst (5 goals); Willem Firth (4); Michael Long (3 +4A); Andrew Dalton (2); Luke Gilmartin (2); Ryan Sheehan (1); Ryan Goldstein (1). 12 goals from two schools: Delbarton NJ (Kirst, Long) and the Hill Academy Ontario (Firth).
Defense: Lehigh scored 6 against also-receiving-votes Rutgers, 7 against unranked Fairfield then 10 against #2/3 Cornell giving 10, 10 and 18. Given our ranking, I was hoping for a couple fewer goals allowed and one or two more goals scored — Cornell hit a lot of posts and the freezing temps made the pipes ring but Cornell (and I trust some other schools) doesn't try to run it up to 20 or more unless the opponent is close.
We won most all of the stats: shots at goal, shots on goal, clears (16 of 17 vs. 16 of 19), ground balls (37-23), faceoffs (20-12) and man-up goals percentage (3/3 vs. 4/6) and fans in stadium: Lehigh called it 400 (free admission, no ticket counters) and I would say red parkas outnumbered Lehigh brown 60-40. Lehigh field only holds about 1200 but there is good (free) parking versus Schoellkopf and fans sit closer to the field. And, oh yeah, the stadium restrooms in February are both open and heated. The Lehigh sports complex including the football stadium feels a bit removed the way the new Cornell baseball field hockey etcetera complex feels near but not quite on campus.
Cornell should solidify its #2 coaches / #3 media ranking. Although next Saturday's game hosting #14 Denver (2-1) should be a better measure of Cornell. 11am not noon start.
1. Notre Dame 2-0 2. Syracuse 3-1 (lost at #6 Maryland 11-7) 3. Cornell 1-0 4. Hopkins 4-0 5. Princeton 1-0 (beat #10 We Are 11-10 OT at PSU) 9. Yale 0-1 (lost 13-11 at unranked Villanova
The CU-Lehigh game started an hour early (11:02 am not 12:02 on the box score), cold (30 degrees) and dry and a few minutes into the second half the first flurries came down. It was a pretty good snowfall in the fourth quarter (photo below, sophomore attackman Ryan Waldman of Westfield NJ HS (where our sons played and then went on to other pursuits in life).
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 02/16/2025 05:55PM by billhoward.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 — CU 18 Lehigh 10 2/15/25
Posted by: mike1960 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: February 16, 2025 06:32PM
billhoward
Cornell 1-0 5 5 6 2 — 18 Lehigh 2-1 3 2 3 2 — 10 Box score: [cornellbigred.com]
Big Red offense looked very good: CJ Kirst (5 goals); Willem Firth (4); Michael Long (3 +4A); Andrew Dalton (2); Luke Gilmartin (2); Ryan Sheehan (1); Ryan Goldstein (1). 12 goals from two schools: Delbarton NJ (Kirst, Long) and the Hill Academy Ontario (Firth).
Defense: Lehigh scored 6 against also-receiving-votes Rutgers, 7 against unranked Fairfield then 10 against #2/3 Cornell giving 10, 10 and 18. Given our ranking, I was hoping for a couple fewer goals allowed and one or two more goals scored — Cornell hit a lot of posts and the freezing temps made the pipes ring but Cornell (and I trust some other schools) doesn't try to run it up to 20 or more unless the opponent is close.
We won most all of the stats: shots at goal, shots on goal, clears (16 of 17 vs. 16 of 19), ground balls (37-23), faceoffs (20-12) and man-up goals percentage (3/3 vs. 4/6) and fans in stadium: Lehigh called it 400 (free admission, no ticket counters) and I would say red parkas outnumbered Lehigh brown 60-40. Lehigh field only holds about 1200 but there is good (free) parking versus Schoellkopf and fans sit closer to the field. And, oh yeah, the stadium restrooms in February are both open and heated. The Lehigh sports complex including the football stadium feels a bit removed the way the new Cornell baseball field hockey etcetera complex feels near but not quite on campus.
Cornell should solidify its #2 coaches / #3 media ranking. Although next Saturday's game hosting #14 Denver (2-1) should be a better measure of Cornell. 11am not noon start.1. Notre Dame 2-0 2. Syracuse 3-1 (lost at #6 Maryland 11-7) 3. Cornell 1-0 4. Hopkins 4-0 5. Princeton 1-0 (beat #10 We Are 11-10 OT at PSU) 9. Yale 0-1 (lost 13-11 at unranked Villanova
The CU-Lehigh game started an hour early (11:02 am not 12:02 on the box score), cold (30 degrees) and dry and a few minutes into the second half the first flurries came down. It was a pretty good snowfall in the fourth quarter (photo below, sophomore attackman Ryan Waldman of Westfield NJ HS (where our sons played and then went on to other pursuits in life).
Great pic!
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 — CU 18 Lehigh 10 2/15/25
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: February 16, 2025 06:54PM
Waldman's on the second midfield. Showed he's not hesitant to shoot.
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 — CU 18 Lehigh 10 2/15/25
Posted by: billhoward (194.124.76.---)
Date: February 16, 2025 07:04PM
TY. Sometimes photographing quote spring sports is more chilling than winter sports ... other than town rinks with a roof but incomplete sides (like Cass Park, on the Cayuga inlet, when built; we played there as late as 2 a.m.). Or the open-side rink my kid played at in HS in NJ; geez the night games were cold.mike1960
Great pic!
The Cornell-Lehigh players other than goalies were in shorts. I had thermal long-johns, insulated-wind resistant-water-resistant pants, a parka, two types of gloves (one for first half, thicker ones for second half). Many/most of the Cornell parents had long, thick, water- and wind-proof coats that went to the knees (photo). In the Wall Streetish NJ town where our sons played, a lot of moms were realty agents and they were the ones in heels who aerated the edges of the muddy grass fields. well, once it got warmer in April.
Cornell fans/parents at the Lehigh game:
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 — CU 18 Lehigh 10 2/15/25
Posted by: Ken711 (---.clppva.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 16, 2025 10:03PM
billhoward
TY. Sometimes photographing quote spring sports is more chilling than winter sports ... other than town rinks with a roof but incomplete sides (like Cass Park, on the Cayuga inlet, when built; we played there as late as 2 a.m.). Or the open-side rink my kid played at in HS in NJ; geez the night games were cold.mike1960
Great pic!
The Cornell-Lehigh players other than goalies were in shorts. I had thermal long-johns, insulated-wind resistant-water-resistant pants, a parka, two types of gloves (one for first half, thicker ones for second half). Many/most of the Cornell parents had long, thick, water- and wind-proof coats that went to the knees (photo). In the Wall Streetish NJ town where our sons played, a lot of moms were realty agents and they were the ones in heels who aerated the edges of the muddy grass fields. well, once it got warmer in April.
Cornell fans/parents at the Lehigh game:
I remember wearing heated socks in the old days of watching games in that type of whether,
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 - Polls week 2 (Ivy week 1) 2/17/25
Posted by: billhoward (194.124.76.---)
Date: February 17, 2025 12:40PM
Lacrosse 2025 Week 2 polls (Week 1 thinking of Ivy teams that played their first games Saturday) are split:
Our Saturday 11 am (not noon) Schoellkopf opponent Denver 2-1 is #9 coaches/USILA, #12 media poll. They lost 13-10 hosting Hopkins, beat Air Force 14-8 and just got by Utah 10-8 last weekend.
At least early on, the media poll shows way more poll repositioning after a loss or big win: Maryland (beat Syracuse) 6 to 2, Syracuse 2 to 6, 2-0 Army 12 to 8, 2-1 Richmond 25 to 12 (in a poll that only goes to 20).
Polls via Inside Lacrosse: [www.insidelacrosse.com]
- Coaches/USILA poll (their first of the year) keeps Cornell at #2 behind only Notre dame, ahead of Syracuse, Virginia and Princeton. Yale is 10, Penn 14, Harvard 19.
- Media poll (their third poll of the year plus pre-season, thus this is called Week 2) drops Cornell from third to fourth, behind ND, Maryland and Hopkins, ahead of Princeton. Harvard is 15, Yale 16 (was 9), Penn 17.
Our Saturday 11 am (not noon) Schoellkopf opponent Denver 2-1 is #9 coaches/USILA, #12 media poll. They lost 13-10 hosting Hopkins, beat Air Force 14-8 and just got by Utah 10-8 last weekend.
At least early on, the media poll shows way more poll repositioning after a loss or big win: Maryland (beat Syracuse) 6 to 2, Syracuse 2 to 6, 2-0 Army 12 to 8, 2-1 Richmond 25 to 12 (in a poll that only goes to 20).
Polls via Inside Lacrosse: [www.insidelacrosse.com]
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/17/2025 01:27PM by billhoward.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 - Polls week 2 (Ivy week 1) 2/17/25
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 17, 2025 01:27PM
Is anyone else irrationally infuriated when sites list games scores like this?
Yes, I know, it's ubiquitous in Europe and for all I know the way I am used to is probably unique to North America. But just because you're biased doesn't mean you're wrong. I fervidly maintain that when you are listing a team's results you should put them first, because it is from their POV. It makes it simple to scan the list quickly for patterns.
Yes, I know, it's ubiquitous in Europe and for all I know the way I am used to is probably unique to North America. But just because you're biased doesn't mean you're wrong. I fervidly maintain that when you are listing a team's results you should put them first, because it is from their POV. It makes it simple to scan the list quickly for patterns.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 - Polls week 2 (Ivy week 1) 2/17/25
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: February 17, 2025 01:29PM
yeah its dumb.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 - Polls week 2 (Ivy week 1) 2/17/25
Posted by: billhoward (194.124.76.---)
Date: February 17, 2025 03:46PM
And then it's one further step to "these are shithole countries and should be annexed, made the 52nd State" (I believe we've got State 51 lined up although it does have about 50 electoral votes so ....)Trotsky
Is anyone else irrationally infuriated when sites list games scores like this?
Yes, I know, it's ubiquitous in Europe and for all I know the way I am used to is probably unique to North America. But just because you're biased doesn't mean you're wrong. I fervidly maintain that when you are listing a team's results you should put them first, because it is from their POV. It makes it simple to scan the list quickly for patterns.
A couple of the lax sites are having trouble parsing data tables thus you see empty space when a team has zero wins or zero losses. Below.
Some colleges (and Cornell Alumni Magazine, RIP) always put the Cornell score first as in, Cornell lost a closely contested basketball game, ultimately falling to Dartmouth 49 to 88.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025 - Polls week 2 (Ivy week 1) 2/17/25
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 17, 2025 03:53PM
it is so chaotic to go with home-team-first on *your own team site*.Trotsky
Is anyone else irrationally infuriated when sites list games scores like this?
Yes, I know, it's ubiquitous in Europe and for all I know the way I am used to is probably unique to North America. But just because you're biased doesn't mean you're wrong. I fervidly maintain that when you are listing a team's results you should put them first, because it is from their POV. It makes it simple to scan the list quickly for patterns.
Start with W or L then either winning team first or your team first. Either is fine. *bangs gavel*
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: February 19, 2025 02:33PM
Army 12, Yale 3 after 3
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: dbilmes (64.224.255.---)
Date: February 19, 2025 03:33PM
Final score 14-3. I braved the cold to go to the game and enjoyed every second of it, as Yale looked terrible.Al DeFlorio
Army 12, Yale 3 after 3
Army set the tone by winning the opening faceoff and scoring just four seconds into the game. It was 7-0 before Yale scored a transition goal off a faceoff late in the first period. Yale got it to 7-2 early in the second period, but that was the closest it came.
My favorite plays were when Army intercepted a sloppy pass by a Yale defenseman, giving the Cadets a 2-0 breakaway; and another play where a Yale long-stick defender lost his stick near midfield while Army was in possession. The Army player realized what had happened and raced toward the goal and scored as I was chanting "stick-less" to myself.
The Army goalie played well, making 16 saves, but it was still surprising to see Yale's offense looking so bad after it has been such an explosive team for many years.
Yale is now 0-2, and Army is 3-0. Coming into the game, Army was ranked No. 8 and Yale No. 16, so this didn't qualify as an upset. But few could have expected Army to win so convincingly.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: February 19, 2025 03:40PM
it made the line of Army -1.5 look bad as well.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: chimpfood (---.cit.cornell.edu)
Date: February 19, 2025 04:11PM
Pretty awful start in non conference play from the ivies and we need to turn it around fast because you don’t get too much of it in lacrosse. A win this weekend against Denver would be big to allow us some margin of error through the rest of the season.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: semsox (---.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 19, 2025 10:38PM
chimpfood
Pretty awful start in non conference play from the ivies and we need to turn it around fast because you don’t get too much of it in lacrosse. A win this weekend against Denver would be big to allow us some margin of error through the rest of the season.
Hard agree here. Ivy losses (and maybe wins) will not be looked at kindly at the end of the year. Need to really focus on getting these non-conference wins
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 21, 2025 02:04PM
game moved to 1130 I guess
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: mike1960 (202.49.186.---)
Date: February 21, 2025 05:52PM
Tomorrow, I'd like to see a disciplined, tough, shut-down defensive effort. If we want to achieve our goals, we're going to need this all year. If the O has an off day (and we had a couple last year), the D can always bring the wood and keep us close.
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2025
Posted by: rmandel (208.68.245.---)
Date: February 22, 2025 11:07AM
Scratch that. Athletics website now says 11:30 AM.
ESPN+ says game starts at 11:30 AM. Athletics website says 11 AM. Does anyone know if the game is underway?
ESPN+ says game starts at 11:30 AM. Athletics website says 11 AM. Does anyone know if the game is underway?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/22/2025 11:09AM by rmandel.
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