Men's Basketball 24-25

If only Okereke could finish at the rim.

30% 3 pt shooting.

Looked like a goal tend to me.

This was a winnable game.

SU took Fiegin out of the game and yes a little better 3 point shooting would have helped. Found former SU player Devendorf's commentary annoying.

Jesus, 44 in a row. Too many fouls, turnovers, and o rebounds allowed for them. Oh well, it just makes it sweeter when we beat them next year.

We had a real chance to be up by 16 or so when SU couldn’t hit a shot early, but then we went ice cold and the game flipped. Nice effort to get close in the 2nd, but not enough to get over the hump. Someday maybe we can pull it off up there…

chimpfood
Jesus, 44 in a row. Too many fouls, turnovers, and o rebounds allowed for them. Oh well, it just makes it sweeter when we beat them next year.

Been saying this since ‘84, when we played them great. Hasn’t worked out so well for me. Yet.

chimpfood
Jesus, 44 in a row. Too many fouls, turnovers, and o rebounds allowed for them. Oh well, it just makes it sweeter when we beat them next year.

This is The Way. -- A Mariners fan.

Trotsky

chimpfood
Jesus, 44 in a row. Too many fouls, turnovers, and o rebounds allowed for them. Oh well, it just makes it sweeter when we beat them next year.

This is The Way. -- A Mariners fan.

Yup. One more cross to bear and all that.

New Cornell BB recruit.

[www.brophyprep.org]

Ken711
New Cornell BB recruit.

[www.brophyprep.org]

The article doesn't say how tall he is.

Ken711
New Cornell BB recruit.

[www.brophyprep.org]

6'3 SG. Chose Cornell over Dartmouth, Manhattan and Northern Illinois among others.

The boys play Colgate right now if anyone is watching. Extremely sloppy start from the Raiders. ESPN had them as slight favorites but I'm not worried. Williams looking good so far with 8 points already, 21-12 Cornell with 13:20 left in the first

Hot start, especially for coop.

Very nice job today but a lot of it is probably due to luck on the three ball. Fiegen probably isn’t the scorer that I thought he could be after the first couple games but it seems like we have plenty of guys who can make shots. Colgate is pretty bad this year but I would still put my money on them to win the patriot league.

The crazy thing is that they played Syracuse great ... not that Syracuse is any good, but Colgate really should have won that game. And we're beating them by 25 ... same story as the last year or two, if I remember correctly.

When you shoot 60% and 50% from 3 things become much easier.

SU is also playing much better now.

Mr. Niss
The crazy thing is that they played Syracuse great ... not that Syracuse is any good, but Colgate really should have won that game. And we're beating them by 25 ... same story as the last year or two, if I remember correctly.

It really has to be mental against cuse at this point. I genuinely think we’ve been the better team for three years straight now and yet we have a 44 game L streak

upprdeck
When you shoot 60% and 50% from 3 things become much easier.

SU is also playing much better now.

Football, yes...roundball, no. Cornell is their only win in their last 4. Lost their top player to an injury and just got a beating from Tennessee.

Su had a shot to take the lead vs Texas and TT under 4 to go.

They are a very flawed team for sure

They were at Tenn and only trailed at the half because they have games where FT shooting becomes a nightmare. That second half was ugly.

Still they are playing better now than thru the first 4 games

They may really struggle after losing Starling. But they may also get their best player back after 2 yrs if rumors are true.

The three loses are to teams in the top 20 in metrics like BPI.
ND - Gtown - Maryland before the New Year will define the season I suspect. If they go 1-2 vs them it will be a long yr.

Colgate is a young team and they lost their top freshman from last year's team to the portal. Langel is an excellent coach and besides the showing against SU they beat a good UNC Wilmington team on UNCW's home floor.

Up by 17 at half against Army, to whom KenPom projected we'd lose a close on -- my faith is being restored.

I was thinking the other day too that, so far, I'm impressed by Jon as head coach. In particular, they don't seem to press as frequently, and my feeling was that their press was easily beaten way too frequently post-Covid. I was at a home game against Yale a couple of years ago where they came back from another zip code to win, and the turnaround started when they stopped pressing.

Another nice shooting day so I won’t let it get my hopes too high but we’re looking really good.

We can’t miss this is ridiculous to watch.

I think we have made 9 threes in a row. The kempom luck metric is gonna hate this lol.

chimpfood
We can’t miss this is ridiculous to watch.

I've never seen anything like it. We are 60.7% from three at 96-68 (the 8 minute break). You could have the #1 three-point shooting team in the country playing this game against Army and they aren't shooting 61%.

Edit: make it 63% (19 of 30).

Missed the last five to finish 19-35 (54%). But still.

The last two wins have caused the KenPom rank to jump 50 places. Which is nuts.

Maybe we should move to the patriot league

Too late to replay the Kentucky game?

Uo next, tomorrow iirc, is a road game against Cal.* Close to us in KenPom.

* You know, from the ACC lol

of course after shooting the lights out against Army, we're one for our first 34 from three tonight

A possession where *we* had multiple offensive rebounds? WOW

Cal already has 13 turnovers to our six

What a great first half. I did not have Cornell up by 18 at half on my "to do" list tonight. Great to see that we were the better defensive team and we were the better rebounding team. They really made Cal look silly. Even with not great three-point shooting, they have an 18-point halftime lead. I don't think Cal is very good, but their losses are all to decent big conference teams and they beat USC. That was a good half. Hopefully they don't lose the second half by more than 17.

Lead down to 8, Jacques cannot be putting a lineup of okereke, Kiachan, nimani, nix, and beccles out there when the lead is already slipping

chimpfood
Lead down to 8, Jacques cannot be putting a lineup of okereke, Kiachan, nimani, nix, and beccles out there when the lead is already slipping

You must have heard me yelling at the TV. Unlike Brian, who seemed to wait for the end of a four-minute block, Jon flipped the lineup when he should have (I thought).

On one hand, Guy seems like a much better player this year. On the other hand, he can be frustratingly cavalier with the ball, both passing and taking some ridiculous shots.

And now, we can't rebound and Cal is making their shots. Suboptimal combination.

This might be a good time for guys on our team who are not the best shooters not to hoist crappy threes with 25 left on the shot clock.

They’re getting all the bounces and we’re getting none right now, need to stop playing like we’re trying to hold a lead and play like we’re trying to get our first power 5 win in god knows how long.

He needs to get 3 out of the game. Two missed FTs and then an ole on defense, not good.

[looks like he made that move a I was typing this]

and all of a sudden we cannot get a rebound

As great a first half as we played. this has been a worse second half. Stunning.

Ivy League teams cannot beat teams in power conferences if they can't make free throws -- especially down the stretch.

Big men should be shooting free throws all break long.

HOLY SHIT WERE GONNA DO IT

Because I've had my heart foolishly broken rooting for underdogs too many times, I did not have this finish on my late night bingo card. Very impressive, assuming they hold on of course.

And then a great combo of a missed FT and a foul. Nothing is easy.

I'm not crying, you're crying

I'm way too into Cornell Basketball.

Wow what a win, I certainly would’ve preferred that we hold the lead the whole time but that was a gritty game at the end. First ACC win since the 50s is ridiculous, what a milestone. Even if Ivy play is a complete dud (I don’t think it will be) we have some good memories from this season in this game and vs Samford.

Incredible win. Watched us blow a 21 point lead and then take over down the stretch for the W. And on the road? Amazing.

Still funny that our first ACC win since 1951 is against... Cal?

I wonder if this was the road game for senior Ryan Kachian. He got 17 minutes, which is his season high, and Berkeley is about an hour from his hometown.

We also played Iona and Army, which are driving distance from our other seniors, Nazir Williams (Nyack), Guy Ragland Jr. (West Hartford) and Chris Cain (Middletown, NY). Nothing in Utah for the JuCo transfer Hayden Franson, whose name I do not recognize, and who plays in the D-III games, though tbh a two-hour flight to the Bay Area isn't terrible, relatively speaking.

Why are we playing 2500 miles from home during finals?

Brown looks scary. They lost 2 big men from last year-one to season ending injury and the other to the portal. Thought they were toast but they are on a winning streak
and took down previously undefeated URI in double overtime.

arugula
Why are we playing 2500 miles from home during finals?

with all due respect... shut up

because finals are next week?

rss77
Brown looks scary. They lost 2 big men from last year-one to season ending injury and the other to the portal. Thought they were toast but they are on a winning streak
and took down previously undefeated URI in double overtime.

Hosting the Ivy tourney too. I would guess it’ll be us, Yale, them and Princeton and I could see that going to anyone.

ugarte
Incredible win. Watched us blow a 21 point lead and then take over down the stretch for the W. And on the road? Amazing.

Still funny that our first ACC win since 1951 is against... Cal?

I only watched the 1st half live, but knew there would certainly be agita before the game was over. Had you told me that Cal would come all the way back and take the lead, I'd say no way we'd get the W, as we've seen similar scenarios over the years at 'Cuse that ended up with a disappointing loss. Thankfully the guys showed some mettle and pulled this one out.

We have more depth of scoring than any of our teams since the 2008-2010 glory years. Any of our starters are real threats; Williams, after a bumpy start, has really found his game. Ragland is playing the best ball of his career, and Noard and Fiegen are really coming into their own. And, how about Okereke?! Shocking that a guy with his size and skill set apparently wasn't recruited by D1 programs. If he continues his level of play, he'll be All-Ivy this year.

I had some doubts about this team early on, especially after the inexplicable loss to Robert Morris. And they still sometimes are a bit too casual with protecting the ball, leading to some maddeningly unnecessary turnovers. But that issue aside, they seem to be gelling, and Jaques is finding his footing as a head coach. The Ivies seem pretty wide open this year, and I think we have as good a chance to win it as the other likely contenders, which to me would include Yale, Princeton, Brown, and Columbia.

upprdeck
because finals are next week?

Incorrect. Currently study days. Finals begin Friday. As a parent of a current student I sure as as shit wouldn’t want my kid focused on basketball right now. Doesn’t send the right message that this an academic institution first.

ugarte

arugula
Why are we playing 2500 miles from home during finals?

with all due respect... shut up

Very mature.

It’s not like they can’t study on the road, it would be an unreasonably long break for a basketball season if they were off starting last weekend

arugula

ugarte

arugula
Why are we playing 2500 miles from home during finals?

with all due respect... shut up

Very mature.

Within hours of the team's biggst win since Wisconsin in 2010 and you're pearl-clutching about finals? Tell me who the mature one is, keeping in mind that I don't care about your sense of maturity at all.

Also keep in mind that I am guessing but reasonably sure (based on recent practices) that Cal was scheduled as a friends-and-family road game for a graduating senior. So I repeat my opening request.

arugula

upprdeck
because finals are next week?

Incorrect. Currently study days. Finals begin Friday. As a parent of a current student I sure as as shit wouldn’t want my kid focused on basketball right now. Doesn’t send the right message that this an academic institution first.

As a retired Cornell professor, I can tell you that the student athletes who deal with competition before finals are perfectly capable of handling the situation. It is actually better than a mid-week game during the semester when your contest might actually fall on a day when you have a couple of exams or 3 papers due. At least now they are not juggling class attendance along with games and exams.

Student athletes also know weeks in advance when their exams and final papers/projects will be due. For the most part, they are organized and disciplined -- probably more so than the average student who does not play a sport -- so balancing their academic and athletic commitments is part of what they sign up for when they decide to play in the Ivy League.

We all admire the athletic prowess of these kids but unless you were a student athlete, a parent or someone who works closely with them in an academic setting it is really hard to appreciate what they are able to achieve. I don't know if they still hold the 400 Club breakfasts, but to be in a room celebrating with the student athletes who achieved a 4.0 average, was a highlight. And it involved dozens of students each semester, not just a handful. Plus students who managed to do it multiple terms at Cornell.

chimpfood
It’s not like they can’t study on the road, it would be an unreasonably long break for a basketball season if they were off starting last weekend

As opposed to the hockey team?

dag14

arugula

upprdeck
because finals are next week?

Incorrect. Currently study days. Finals begin Friday. As a parent of a current student I sure as as shit wouldn’t want my kid focused on basketball right now. Doesn’t send the right message that this an academic institution first.

As a retired Cornell professor, I can tell you that the student athletes who deal with competition before finals are perfectly capable of handling the situation. It is actually better than a mid-week game during the semester when your contest might actually fall on a day when you have a couple of exams or 3 papers due. At least now they are not juggling class attendance along with games and exams.

Student athletes also know weeks in advance when their exams and final papers/projects will be due. For the most part, they are organized and disciplined -- probably more so than the average student who does not play a sport -- so balancing their academic and athletic commitments is part of what they sign up for when they decide to play in the Ivy League.

We all admire the athletic prowess of these kids but unless you were a student athlete, a parent or someone who works closely with them in an academic setting it is really hard to appreciate what they are able to achieve. I don't know if they still hold the 400 Club breakfasts, but to be in a room celebrating with the student athletes who achieved a 4.0 average, was a highlight. And it involved dozens of students each semester, not just a handful. Plus students who managed to do it multiple terms at Cornell.

Understood. But California? Why not in late December or early January. One of the great things about Ivy hockey and basketball is the majority of games are on weekends and bus trips away.

arugula

chimpfood
It’s not like they can’t study on the road, it would be an unreasonably long break for a basketball season if they were off starting last weekend

As opposed to the hockey team?

Yes most basketball teams have no real break at all while almost every hockey team does.

It was a tues game. Finals start friday and into next week. They are home today.

They didn't miss class, They had study week. They had hours of downtime in the travel as well.

ugarte

arugula

ugarte

arugula
Why are we playing 2500 miles from home during finals?

with all due respect... shut up

Very mature.

Within hours of the team's biggst win since Wisconsin in 2010 and you're pearl-clutching about finals? Tell me who the mature one is, keeping in mind that I don't care about your sense of maturity at all.

Also keep in mind that I am guessing but reasonably sure (based on recent practices) that Cal was scheduled as a friends-and-family road game for a graduating senior. So I repeat my opening request.

Can we agree that telling someone to shut up when you disagree is not the most mature response?

Can we also agree that school is more important than sports? Shouldn’t be a controversial opinion.


Not pearl clutching. Sorry to offend.

Quick search and I think the last time we beat:

Patriot: @Army 12/8/2024
MAAC: @Iona 11/25/2024
SoCon: Samford 11/8/2024
Horizon: @Robert Morris 12/22/2023
CAA: Monmouth 11/29/2023
WAC: Utah Valley 11/20/2023 (Neutral site)
Big West: Cal State-Fullerton 11/19/2023 (Neutral site)
A10: @Fordham 11/11/2023
America East: Binghamton 12/29/2022
NEC: @St. Francis(PA) 11/14/2022
MEAC: Coppin State 12/3/2021
Big South: Longwood 12/17/2018
MAC: Toledo 11/24/2017
OVC: SE Missouri State 12/23/2016 (Neutral site)
Big 10: Wisconsin 3/21/2010 (NCAA R32)
Great West (RIP): @South Dakota 1/8/2010
Big East: St. John's 12/21/2009 (ECAC Holiday Tournament finals at MSG)
SEC: @Alabama 11/14/2009 (friends-and-family game for Louis Dale)
Big Sky: Eastern Washington 12/3/1994 (Neutral site)
Sun Belt: Georgia Southern 12/29/1993 (Neutral site)
Pac 12 (RIP-ish): Cal 12/30/1992 (Seton Hall / Meadowlands consolation game, over Jason Kidd)
WCC: Portland 12/30/83 (thx mountainred!)

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Big XII: Last game I could find was a loss at #1 Kansas 1/4/2010 and goddamn we almost had this one

Our next game is against MVC's Illinois State. Conference realignment makes all of this tricky but feel free to go back further than 1989-90, add conferences (including historical conferences like SWC), search for specific opponents or check my work.

I should probably get back to work.

ugarte
Quick search and I think the last time we beat:

Patriot: @Army 12/8/2024
MAAC: @Iona 11/25/2024
SoCon: Samford 11/8/2024
Horizon: @Robert Morris 12/22/2023
CAA: Monmouth 11/29/2023
WAC: Utah Valley 11/20/2023 (Neutral site)
Big West: Cal State-Fullerton 11/19/2023 (Neutral site)
A10: @Fordham 11/11/2023
America East: Binghamton 12/29/2022
NEC: @St. Francis(PA) 11/14/2022
MEAC: Coppin State 12/3/2021
Big South: Longwood 12/17/2018
MAC: Toledo 11/24/2017
OVC: SE Missouri State 12/23/2016 (Neutral site)
Big 10: Wisconsin 3/21/2010 (NCAA R32)
Great West (RIP): @South Dakota 1/8/2010
Big East: St. John's 12/21/2009 (ECAC Holiday Tournament finals at MSG)
SEC: @Alabama 11/14/2009 (friends-and-family game for Louis Dale)
Big Sky: Eastern Washington 12/3/1994 (Neutral site)
Sun Belt: Georgia Southern 12/29/1993 (Neutral site)
Pac 12 (RIP-ish): Cal 12/30/1992 (Seton Hall /Meadowlands consolation game, over Jason Kidd)
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Big XII: Last game I could find was a loss at #1 Kansas 1/4/2010 and goddamn we almost had this one
WCC: Last game I could find was a loss at U. of the Pacific 12/3/1988

Our next game is against MVC's Illinois State. Conference realignment makes all of this tricky but feel free to go back further than 1989-90, add conferences (including historical conferences like SWC), search for specific opponents or check my work.

I should probably get back to work.

Impressive research! We need to schedule more games against the Sun Belt and Big Sky so we can end those droughts.

dbilmes

ugarte
Quick search and I think the last time we beat:

Patriot: @Army 12/8/2024
MAAC: @Iona 11/25/2024
SoCon: Samford 11/8/2024
Horizon: @Robert Morris 12/22/2023
CAA: Monmouth 11/29/2023
WAC: Utah Valley 11/20/2023 (Neutral site)
Big West: Cal State-Fullerton 11/19/2023 (Neutral site)
A10: @Fordham 11/11/2023
America East: Binghamton 12/29/2022
NEC: @St. Francis(PA) 11/14/2022
MEAC: Coppin State 12/3/2021
Big South: Longwood 12/17/2018
MAC: Toledo 11/24/2017
OVC: SE Missouri State 12/23/2016 (Neutral site)
Big 10: Wisconsin 3/21/2010 (NCAA R32)
Great West (RIP): @South Dakota 1/8/2010
Big East: St. John's 12/21/2009 (ECAC Holiday Tournament finals at MSG)
SEC: @Alabama 11/14/2009 (friends-and-family game for Louis Dale)
Big Sky: Eastern Washington 12/3/1994 (Neutral site)
Sun Belt: Georgia Southern 12/29/1993 (Neutral site)
Pac 12 (RIP-ish): Cal 12/30/1992 (Seton Hall /Meadowlands consolation game, over Jason Kidd)
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Big XII: Last game I could find was a loss at #1 Kansas 1/4/2010 and goddamn we almost had this one
WCC: Last game I could find was a loss at U. of the Pacific 12/3/1988

Our next game is against MVC's Illinois State. Conference realignment makes all of this tricky but feel free to go back further than 1989-90, add conferences (including historical conferences like SWC), search for specific opponents or check my work.

I should probably get back to work.

Impressive research! We need to schedule more games against the Sun Belt and Big Sky so we can end those droughts.

Kudos for the research! For the WCC, the good guys beat U Portland at their place in 1983. I think it was the 5th place game of the Far Wets Classic.

ugarte

Still funny that our first ACC win since 1951 is against... Cal?

Makes me wonder:

• When was our last win over a Pac10 team?
• When was Cal's last win over an ACC team?

ugarte

Patriot: @Army 12/8/2024
MAAC: @Iona 11/25/2024
SoCon: Samford 11/8/2024
Horizon: @Robert Morris 12/22/2023
CAA: Monmouth 11/29/2023
WAC: Utah Valley 11/20/2023 (Neutral site)
Big West: Cal State-Fullerton 11/19/2023 (Neutral site)
A10: @Fordham 11/11/2023
America East: Binghamton 12/29/2022
NEC: @St. Francis(PA) 11/14/2022
MEAC: Coppin State 12/3/2021
Big South: Longwood 12/17/2018
MAC: Toledo 11/24/2017
OVC: SE Missouri State 12/23/2016 (Neutral site)
Big 10: Wisconsin 3/21/2010 (NCAA R32)
Great West (RIP): @South Dakota 1/8/2010
Big East: St. John's 12/21/2009 (ECAC Holiday Tournament finals at MSG)
SEC: @Alabama 11/14/2009 (friends-and-family game for Louis Dale)
Big Sky: Eastern Washington 12/3/1994 (Neutral site)
Sun Belt: Georgia Southern 12/29/1993 (Neutral site)
Pac 12 (RIP-ish): Cal 12/30/1992 (Seton Hall / Meadowlands consolation game, over Jason Kidd)
WCC: Portland 12/30/83 (thx mountainred!)

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Big XII: Last game I could find was a loss at #1 Kansas 1/4/2010 and goddamn we almost had this one

Our next game is against MVC's Illinois State. Conference realignment makes all of this tricky but feel free to go back further than 1989-90, add conferences (including historical conferences like SWC), search for specific opponents or check my work.

I should probably get back to work.

Thanks. Very interesting.

But before you get back to work, it would be helpful to also know the last time we played a team in that league.

If we play an ACC team every year, the 73-year drought is much more depressing than if we last played an ACC team in 1951.

Swampy
Thanks. Very interesting.

But before you get back to work, it would be helpful to also know the last time we played a team in that league.

If we play an ACC team every year, the 73-year drought is much more depressing than if we last played an ACC team in 1951.

It's not often but in scrolling back through our schedules, we played (off the top of my head), UNC, NC State, Wake Forest, Duke, BC, GTx2, Pitt and, of course, we do play Syracuse every year and they've been ACC for a while now.

Swampy
[*] When was our last win over a Pac10 team?

It's on the list! And it was also Cal!

I'm not looking up anything about Cal. Not my problem!

Double post

For those who haven't paid a lot of attention to the rest of the Ivies, here is a quick rundown, using KenPom (records as of 12/20):

1) Yale (5-5) -- The computers' Ivy favorite. The Elis are doing what they normally do; the play efficiently, shoot and rebound well and don't turn the ball over. So far on the season they haven't done anything spectacular. They have two competitive losses at Big 10 teams, but their best win is Vermont, I guess. James Jones always gets Yale into the ILT and I will pencil them in until they are mathematically eliminated. Just be happy Danny Wolf headed to Michigan (at least for Cornell's chances of winning the league) because he has looked great as a Wolverine.
2) Princeton (8-4) -- Still my pick to win the regular season, but not the juggernaut they could have been. At least so far. The Tigers still return two Ivy first-teamers and last year' POY in Pierce and Lee. And they were good enough to win at St. Joes. Just can't imagine them missing the ILT.
3) Cornell (7-3) -- Tons of credit to Jon Jacques for what has been a smooth transition. If you believe Bart Torvik, the Red have been the second best team in the league. Winning at Cal was huge and the Samford win is looking better and better (they have lost to Michigan State, Arizona and us). Other than the Bobby Mo debacle, Cornell has been playing like an Ivy favorite should and Nazir still hasn't gotten untracked. Maybe this is the year they win a game in ILT?
4) Columbia (10-1) -- Look, the 'Nova win was huge, League's best so far, but the rest of their schedule has been soft, soft, soft. Are they contenders or is this a mirage? Either way, De La Rosa is a stud and has been playing peak hoops this year. He's hitting 51% of his threes and is an early favorite for POY. The other starters are juniors, so the Lions are experienced. Columbia faded late last year, but my guess is that while they aren't as good as 10-1 implies, they are good and will be fighting to finally make the ILT.
5) Brown (7-3) -- Last year's almost Cinderella has won 6 straight including handing Rhode Island their first loss. Mike Martin is a great coach and Kino Lilly -- the only other returning Ivy first teamer -- can take over a game. Which is good because he never sits. If Nana hadn't gotten hurt and Anya bailed to be a Billiken, Brown could have been dominant. But in the world of what actually happened, they are the last real contender for the ILT. But they host if they can make it.
6) Harvard (3-7) -- The Crimson have too much talent to completely write off, but they haven't looked good. They've lost to a pair of KenPom sub 300 teams and just barely beat New Hampshire who has zero D1 wins. Harvard starts two freshman and a sophomore, and has been working the talented Louis Lesmond back, so there is hope they can improve. But they miss their two transfers who left for Stanford and Georgetown, including last year's ROY, Malik Mack.
7) Penn (3-7) -- Penn is a mess. They started by beating two of the worst teams in the country, both by a single point, and are 1-7 since. Quaker fans and spoiled and entitled, and those are my friends, and they are restless. Penn doesn't really do anything well. They will win some Ivy games thanks to the Palestra, I certainly won't guarantee a Cornell win there, but there is a real chance Penn finishes last in the league. Not sure the last time I would have said that.
8) Dartmouth (4-7) -- Dartmouth looks much improved. They beat BC and they've been more competitive in their losses. The Big Green aren't making the ILT after going 6-21, 2-12, but they will claim some hides this year.

tl;dr -- Pencil Yale and Princeton for the ILT; the good guys, Brown and Columbia will fight for the two remaining slots with Harvard being a wild card and Dartmouth being more dangerous.

Thanks for the update, my ILT prediction would be 1.Cornell 2.Yale 3.Princeton 4.Brown

Good summary. Checked Illinois State's roster and see that they have 8 players from the portal including some grad students. They will be good test.