Cornell football 2022
Posted by billhoward
Re: Cornell football 2022
Posted by: Ken711 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 22, 2022 03:00PM
TimV
It's striking (to me, anyway) that Andy's weekend summary covers everything EXCEPT football. It is included, way down near the bottom of the SID's list.
I look forward to the next AD at least acknowledging there is a problem with the football program.
Re: Cornell football 2022
Posted by: Weder (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: November 22, 2022 03:15PM
ugarte
i would not oppose a coaching change i just don't really care that much or think it will make that much difference, just as the last few changes did not. i don't think it's a particuarly coveted job.
I honestly don’t really care if the football team goes 3-7 or whatever every single year because the Ivy title doesn’t mean a whole lo me, and the absolute best-case scenario is that the Ivies decide to participate in the FCS playoffs and then get crushed by a Big Sky team. Meh.
Re: Cornell football 2022
Posted by: George64 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: November 22, 2022 03:48PM
Weder
I honestly don’t really care if the football team goes 3-7 or whatever every single year because the Ivy title doesn’t mean a whole lo me, and the absolute best-case scenario is that the Ivies decide to participate in the FCS playoffs and then get crushed by a Big Sky team. Meh.
Back when lived in Syracuse in the late ‘70s, I went to nearly every home game. Even when I lived near Cleveland, I made it to about one game per year. Now I live in Rochester, only about 90 minutes away, and I don’t even think about going to a game. I’m not looking for an Ivy title, but on a beautiful fall day, I’d like to drive down to Ithaca and, at least, think that we’d have a reasonable chance of winning. That’s all I’m asking for.
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Re: Cornell football 2022
Posted by: CAS (174.166.12.---)
Date: November 22, 2022 03:53PM
Some seem to believe having a competitive football program would detract from hockey. I don’t understand this thinking. Don’t believe getting blown out on Homecoming or losing by 3 TDs at Columbia helps Cornell in any way.
Re: Cornell football 2022
Posted by: TimV (---.amc.edu)
Date: November 22, 2022 03:55PM
Hard to argue that. Ivy football generally has been a stepping stone for NESCAC type or other D3 coaches trying to move up. Al Bagnoli who resurrected Penn and Columbia previously at Union.
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Re: Cornell football 2022
Posted by: nshapiro (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 22, 2022 05:26PM
Is Bill Lazor currently employed?
Re: Cornell football 2022
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 22, 2022 05:49PM
Syracuse in football (ACC) is now losing against higher-level competition and its 6-5 record differs from Cornell's in having played 11 not 10 games. As with Rutgers (Big Ten). I believe they do get more fans, 45,213 while being blown out by Florida State a week ago.
Re: Cornell football 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: November 22, 2022 08:19PM
Find a young coach who has won at the DII level. That's always a good formula. Look at the guy at Kansas, for example.
Re: Cornell football 2022
Posted by: Roy 82 (128.18.241.---)
Date: November 22, 2022 09:31PM
mike1960
Find a young coach who has won at the DII level. That's always a good formula. Look at the guy at Kansas, for example.
Get a person from a low-level UK soccer league who speaks in folksy cliches. Make a documentary about it.
Re: Cornell football 2022 - All-Ivy
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 22, 2022 10:43PM
Cornell places 12 on the All-Ivy football team. All second-team or (including Jameson Wang) HM.
Cornell story: [cornellbigred.com]
Ivy League story: [ivyleague.com]
Princeton has 11 players on the first or second teams, Penn and Yale had 10 each, Harvard had 8.
Player of the year (Bushnell Cup) is announced Dec. 12, with finalists announced Nov. 29.
ROOKIE OF THE YEAR
Joshua Pitsenberger, Yale (Fr., RB – Bethesda, Md.)
COACH OF THE YEAR
Tony Reno, Yale
FIRST TEAM ALL-IVY^
Notes: *Unanimous Selection
^ Team Expanded Due to Tie in Voting
OFFENSE
Mason Williams, Harvard (Sr., OL – Murfreesboro, Tenn.)
Trevor Radosevich, Penn (Sr., OL – Englishtown, N.J.)
*Henry Byrd, Princeton (Sr., OL – Nashville, Tenn.)
*Nick Gargiulo, Yale (Sr., OL – Yorktown Heights, N.Y.)
*Kiran Amegadjie, Yale (Jr., OL – Hinsdale, Ill.)
Nolan Grooms, Yale (Jr., QB – Lake Wylie, S.C.)
*Aidan Borguet, Harvard (Sr., RB – Franklinville, N.J.)
Trey Flowers, Penn (Sr., RB – Miami, Fla.)
Joshua Pitsenberger, Yale (Fr., RB – Bethesda, Md.)
Bryson Canty, Columbia (So., WR – Pfafftown, N.C.)
*Andrei Iosivas, Princeton (Sr., WR – Honolulu, Hawaii)
Dylan Classi, Princeton (Sr., WR – Englewood Cliffs, N.J.)
Tyler Neville, Harvard (Jr., TE – Williamsburg, Va.)
DEFENSE
*Truman Jones, Harvard (Sr., DL – Atlanta, Ga.)
Thor Griffith, Harvard (Jr., DL – Portsmouth, N.H.)
Jake Heimlicher, Penn (Sr., DL – Aurora, Colo.)
Matthew Jester, Princeton (Sr., DL – Spring, Texas)
*Scott Valentas, Columbia (Sr., LB – Wichita, Kan.)
Jack McGowan, Harvard (Sr., LB – Canton, Mass.)
Garrett Morris, Penn (Sr., LB – Auburn, Ala.)
*Liam Johnson, Princeton (Jr., LB – Moorestown, N.J.)
Kendren Smith, Penn (Sr., DB – Charlotte, N.C.)
Michael Ruttlen Jr., Princeton (Sr., DB – Mount Juliet, Tenn.)
*Wande Owens, Yale (Jr., DB – Cooksville, Md.)
CJ Wall, Princeton (Sr., DB – Plano, Texas)
SPECIAL TEAMS
Alex Felkins, Columbia (Sr., K – Tulsa, Okla.)
Jack Bosman, Yale (Jr., K – San Diego, Calif.)
Ben Krimm, Penn (Sr., P – Columbus, Ohio)
Julien Stokes, Penn (So., RS – Newbury Park, Calif.)
SECOND TEAM ALL-IVY ^
OFFENSE
Donovan Allen, Brown (Sr., OL – Douglasville, Ga.)
Will Hamilton, Columbia (Sr., OL – Suwanee, Ga.)
Joe Kelly, Cornell (Sr., OL – Leawood, Kan.)
Jake Rizy, Harvard (Jr., OL – Westport, Conn.)
Ben Hoitink, Penn (Sr., OL – Hartford, Wis.)
Jalen Travis, Princeton (Jr., OL – Minneapolis, Minn.)
Blake Stenstrom, Princeton (Jr., QB – Highlands Ranch, Colo.)
Allen Smith, Brown (Sr., RB – Westerville, Ohio)
Joey Giorgi, Columbia (Jr., RB – Grafton, Wis.)
Wes Rockett, Brown (Sr., WR – Marblehead, Mass.)
Thomas Glover, Cornell (Sr., WR – Pasadena, Calif.)
Kym Wimberly, Harvard (Sr., WR – Slidell, La.)
Rory Starkey, Penn (Sr., WR – Atlanta, Ga.)
Carson Bobo, Princeton (Sr., TE – Birmingham, Ala.)
Jackson Hawes, Yale (Jr., TE – Salt Lake City, Utah)
DEFENSE
Justin Townsend, Columbia (So., DL – Randolph, N.J.)
Shane Cokes, Dartmouth (Sr., DL – Dayton, Ohio)
Reid Nickerson, Yale (Sr., DL – Friendswood, Texas)
Clay Patterson, Yale (Jr., DL – Frisco, Texas)
Jake Stebbins, Cornell (Sr., LB – Cranberry Township, Pa.)
Joe Heffernan, Dartmouth (5th, LB – Brookfield, Wis.)
Ozzie Nicholas, Princeton (Jr., LB – Encinitas, Calif.)
Hamilton Moore, Yale (Jr., LB – Raleigh, N.C.)
Josh Ofilli, Brown (Sr., DB – Katy, Texas)
Paul Lewis III, Cornell (Sr., DB – Middle River, Md.)
Quinten Arello, Dartmouth (Sr., DB – Kansas City, Mo.)
Jaden Key, Penn (Sr., DB – Neptune, N.J.)
SPECIAL TEAMS
Jackson Kennedy, Cornell (Jr., K – Aldie, Va.)
William Hughes, Columbia (Jr., P – Fairfax, Va.)
Davon Kiser, Cornell (Fr., RS – Lauderdale Lakes, Fla.)
HONORABLE MENTION ALL-IVY
OFFENSE
Hunter Folsom, Brown (Sr., OL – Ocala, Fla.)
Stew Newblatt, Columbia (Sr., OL – Clarkston, Mich.)
Micah Sahakian, Cornell (Jr., OL – Mount Prospect, Ill.)
Nicholas Schwitzgebel, Dartmouth (Jr., OL – Cleveland, Ohio)
Austin Gentle, Harvard (So., OL – Chattanooga, Tenn.)
Scott Elliott, Harvard (Sr., OL – Holliston, Mass.)
Connor Scaglione, Princeton (Sr., OL – Closter, N.J.)
Jonathan Mendoza, Yale (Jr., OL – Westhampton Beach, N.Y.)
Cubby Schuller, Yale (Sr., OL – Bedminster, N.J.)
Jameson Wang, Cornell (So., QB – El Segundo, Calif.)
Aidan Sayin, Penn (So., QB – Carlsbad, Calif.)
Ryan Butler, Princeton (Fr., RB – Plainfield, N.J.)
Tre Peterson, Yale (Jr., RB – Columbus, Ga.)
JJ Jenkins, Columbia (Sr., WR – San Clemente, Calif.)
Mason Tipton, Yale (Jr., WR – Akron, Ohio)
Ryan Lindley, Yale (Jr., WR – Austin, Texas)
Matt Robbert, Cornell (Jr., TE – Centereach, N.Y.)
Jace Henry, Dartmouth (Jr., TE – Fairbanks, Alaska)
DEFENSE
Max Lundeen, Cornell (5th, DL – East Grand Rapids, Mich.)
Nate Leskovec, Harvard (Sr., DL – Solon, Ohio)
Joey Slackman, Penn (Jr., DL – Commack, N.Y.)
Micah Morris, Penn (Sr., DL – Pittsburgh, Pa.)
Uche Ndukwe, Princeton (Sr., DL – Dedham, Mass.)
Alvin Gulley, Yale (So., DL – Belleville, Ill.)
Adam Raine, Yale (Sr., DL – Basingstoke, England)
Connor Henderson, Cornell (Jr., LB – Matthews, N.C.)
Jake Brown, Harvard (Sr., LB – Fredon, N.J.)
Jonathan Melvin, Penn (Sr., LB – Hampton, Va.)
Jack Fairman, Penn (Jr., LB – Bloomfield Hills, Mich.)
Joseph Vaughn, Yale (Sr., LB – San Jose, Calif.)
Isaiah Reed, Brown (So., DB – Tampa, Fla.)
Cooper DeVeau, Brown (Sr., DB – Foxboro, Mass.)
Fara’ad McCombs, Columbia (Sr., DB – Passaic, N.J.)
Seth Parker, Columbia (Jr., DB – Hoover, Ala.)
Demetrius Harris, Cornell (5th, DB – Muskegon, Mich.)
Alex Washington, Harvard (Sr., DB – Hoover, Ala.)
Khalil Dawsey, Harvard (Sr., DB – Detroit, Mich.)
Shiloh Means, Penn (Jr., DB – Indianapolis, Ind.)
Kyle Ellis, Yale (Sr., DB – Cumming, Ga.)
SPECIAL TEAMS
Will Powers, Princeton (Sr., P – Manhattan Beach, Calif.)
Sebastien Tasko, Harvard (So., P – Ridgewood, N.J.)
AJ Barber, Princeton (So., RS – Old Greenwich, Conn.)
Jack Bill, Harvard (Sr., RS – Huntington, N.Y.)
Also, there's an Academic All-Ivy Team, which seems kind of, you know, they're all in the Ivy League already. If Player of the Year gets the Bushnell Cup, maybe this should be the Einstein Award.
Cornell story: [cornellbigred.com]
Cornell PR
The 12 Big Red All-Ivy members matches 2005 as the most in a season since 1995 (14). Cornell had six chosen to the second team and six more earned honorable mention accolades.
Ivy League story: [ivyleague.com]
Princeton has 11 players on the first or second teams, Penn and Yale had 10 each, Harvard had 8.
Player of the year (Bushnell Cup) is announced Dec. 12, with finalists announced Nov. 29.
ROOKIE OF THE YEAR
Joshua Pitsenberger, Yale (Fr., RB – Bethesda, Md.)
COACH OF THE YEAR
Tony Reno, Yale
FIRST TEAM ALL-IVY^
Notes: *Unanimous Selection
^ Team Expanded Due to Tie in Voting
OFFENSE
Mason Williams, Harvard (Sr., OL – Murfreesboro, Tenn.)
Trevor Radosevich, Penn (Sr., OL – Englishtown, N.J.)
*Henry Byrd, Princeton (Sr., OL – Nashville, Tenn.)
*Nick Gargiulo, Yale (Sr., OL – Yorktown Heights, N.Y.)
*Kiran Amegadjie, Yale (Jr., OL – Hinsdale, Ill.)
Nolan Grooms, Yale (Jr., QB – Lake Wylie, S.C.)
*Aidan Borguet, Harvard (Sr., RB – Franklinville, N.J.)
Trey Flowers, Penn (Sr., RB – Miami, Fla.)
Joshua Pitsenberger, Yale (Fr., RB – Bethesda, Md.)
Bryson Canty, Columbia (So., WR – Pfafftown, N.C.)
*Andrei Iosivas, Princeton (Sr., WR – Honolulu, Hawaii)
Dylan Classi, Princeton (Sr., WR – Englewood Cliffs, N.J.)
Tyler Neville, Harvard (Jr., TE – Williamsburg, Va.)
DEFENSE
*Truman Jones, Harvard (Sr., DL – Atlanta, Ga.)
Thor Griffith, Harvard (Jr., DL – Portsmouth, N.H.)
Jake Heimlicher, Penn (Sr., DL – Aurora, Colo.)
Matthew Jester, Princeton (Sr., DL – Spring, Texas)
*Scott Valentas, Columbia (Sr., LB – Wichita, Kan.)
Jack McGowan, Harvard (Sr., LB – Canton, Mass.)
Garrett Morris, Penn (Sr., LB – Auburn, Ala.)
*Liam Johnson, Princeton (Jr., LB – Moorestown, N.J.)
Kendren Smith, Penn (Sr., DB – Charlotte, N.C.)
Michael Ruttlen Jr., Princeton (Sr., DB – Mount Juliet, Tenn.)
*Wande Owens, Yale (Jr., DB – Cooksville, Md.)
CJ Wall, Princeton (Sr., DB – Plano, Texas)
SPECIAL TEAMS
Alex Felkins, Columbia (Sr., K – Tulsa, Okla.)
Jack Bosman, Yale (Jr., K – San Diego, Calif.)
Ben Krimm, Penn (Sr., P – Columbus, Ohio)
Julien Stokes, Penn (So., RS – Newbury Park, Calif.)
SECOND TEAM ALL-IVY ^
OFFENSE
Donovan Allen, Brown (Sr., OL – Douglasville, Ga.)
Will Hamilton, Columbia (Sr., OL – Suwanee, Ga.)
Joe Kelly, Cornell (Sr., OL – Leawood, Kan.)
Jake Rizy, Harvard (Jr., OL – Westport, Conn.)
Ben Hoitink, Penn (Sr., OL – Hartford, Wis.)
Jalen Travis, Princeton (Jr., OL – Minneapolis, Minn.)
Blake Stenstrom, Princeton (Jr., QB – Highlands Ranch, Colo.)
Allen Smith, Brown (Sr., RB – Westerville, Ohio)
Joey Giorgi, Columbia (Jr., RB – Grafton, Wis.)
Wes Rockett, Brown (Sr., WR – Marblehead, Mass.)
Thomas Glover, Cornell (Sr., WR – Pasadena, Calif.)
Kym Wimberly, Harvard (Sr., WR – Slidell, La.)
Rory Starkey, Penn (Sr., WR – Atlanta, Ga.)
Carson Bobo, Princeton (Sr., TE – Birmingham, Ala.)
Jackson Hawes, Yale (Jr., TE – Salt Lake City, Utah)
DEFENSE
Justin Townsend, Columbia (So., DL – Randolph, N.J.)
Shane Cokes, Dartmouth (Sr., DL – Dayton, Ohio)
Reid Nickerson, Yale (Sr., DL – Friendswood, Texas)
Clay Patterson, Yale (Jr., DL – Frisco, Texas)
Jake Stebbins, Cornell (Sr., LB – Cranberry Township, Pa.)
Joe Heffernan, Dartmouth (5th, LB – Brookfield, Wis.)
Ozzie Nicholas, Princeton (Jr., LB – Encinitas, Calif.)
Hamilton Moore, Yale (Jr., LB – Raleigh, N.C.)
Josh Ofilli, Brown (Sr., DB – Katy, Texas)
Paul Lewis III, Cornell (Sr., DB – Middle River, Md.)
Quinten Arello, Dartmouth (Sr., DB – Kansas City, Mo.)
Jaden Key, Penn (Sr., DB – Neptune, N.J.)
SPECIAL TEAMS
Jackson Kennedy, Cornell (Jr., K – Aldie, Va.)
William Hughes, Columbia (Jr., P – Fairfax, Va.)
Davon Kiser, Cornell (Fr., RS – Lauderdale Lakes, Fla.)
HONORABLE MENTION ALL-IVY
OFFENSE
Hunter Folsom, Brown (Sr., OL – Ocala, Fla.)
Stew Newblatt, Columbia (Sr., OL – Clarkston, Mich.)
Micah Sahakian, Cornell (Jr., OL – Mount Prospect, Ill.)
Nicholas Schwitzgebel, Dartmouth (Jr., OL – Cleveland, Ohio)
Austin Gentle, Harvard (So., OL – Chattanooga, Tenn.)
Scott Elliott, Harvard (Sr., OL – Holliston, Mass.)
Connor Scaglione, Princeton (Sr., OL – Closter, N.J.)
Jonathan Mendoza, Yale (Jr., OL – Westhampton Beach, N.Y.)
Cubby Schuller, Yale (Sr., OL – Bedminster, N.J.)
Jameson Wang, Cornell (So., QB – El Segundo, Calif.)
Aidan Sayin, Penn (So., QB – Carlsbad, Calif.)
Ryan Butler, Princeton (Fr., RB – Plainfield, N.J.)
Tre Peterson, Yale (Jr., RB – Columbus, Ga.)
JJ Jenkins, Columbia (Sr., WR – San Clemente, Calif.)
Mason Tipton, Yale (Jr., WR – Akron, Ohio)
Ryan Lindley, Yale (Jr., WR – Austin, Texas)
Matt Robbert, Cornell (Jr., TE – Centereach, N.Y.)
Jace Henry, Dartmouth (Jr., TE – Fairbanks, Alaska)
DEFENSE
Max Lundeen, Cornell (5th, DL – East Grand Rapids, Mich.)
Nate Leskovec, Harvard (Sr., DL – Solon, Ohio)
Joey Slackman, Penn (Jr., DL – Commack, N.Y.)
Micah Morris, Penn (Sr., DL – Pittsburgh, Pa.)
Uche Ndukwe, Princeton (Sr., DL – Dedham, Mass.)
Alvin Gulley, Yale (So., DL – Belleville, Ill.)
Adam Raine, Yale (Sr., DL – Basingstoke, England)
Connor Henderson, Cornell (Jr., LB – Matthews, N.C.)
Jake Brown, Harvard (Sr., LB – Fredon, N.J.)
Jonathan Melvin, Penn (Sr., LB – Hampton, Va.)
Jack Fairman, Penn (Jr., LB – Bloomfield Hills, Mich.)
Joseph Vaughn, Yale (Sr., LB – San Jose, Calif.)
Isaiah Reed, Brown (So., DB – Tampa, Fla.)
Cooper DeVeau, Brown (Sr., DB – Foxboro, Mass.)
Fara’ad McCombs, Columbia (Sr., DB – Passaic, N.J.)
Seth Parker, Columbia (Jr., DB – Hoover, Ala.)
Demetrius Harris, Cornell (5th, DB – Muskegon, Mich.)
Alex Washington, Harvard (Sr., DB – Hoover, Ala.)
Khalil Dawsey, Harvard (Sr., DB – Detroit, Mich.)
Shiloh Means, Penn (Jr., DB – Indianapolis, Ind.)
Kyle Ellis, Yale (Sr., DB – Cumming, Ga.)
SPECIAL TEAMS
Will Powers, Princeton (Sr., P – Manhattan Beach, Calif.)
Sebastien Tasko, Harvard (So., P – Ridgewood, N.J.)
AJ Barber, Princeton (So., RS – Old Greenwich, Conn.)
Jack Bill, Harvard (Sr., RS – Huntington, N.Y.)
Also, there's an Academic All-Ivy Team, which seems kind of, you know, they're all in the Ivy League already. If Player of the Year gets the Bushnell Cup, maybe this should be the Einstein Award.
Ivy League PR
Additionally, one Ivy League student-athlete from each institution was recognized for their commitment in the classroom and on the field as members of the 2022 Ivy League Football Academic All-Ivy team. Brown senior Lucas Ferraro, Columbia senior Mitch Moyer, Cornell senior Jake Stebbins, Dartmouth junior Macklin Ayers, Harvard senior Truman Jones, Penn senior Jake Heimlicher, Princeton senior Cole Aubrey and Yale senior Oso Ifesinachukwu were each named to the team.
Re: Cornell football 2022
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 22, 2022 11:49PM
Roy 82
mike1960
Find a young coach who has won at the DII level. That's always a good formula. Look at the guy at Kansas, for example.
Get a person from a low-level UK soccer league who speaks in folksy cliches. Make a documentary about it.
He's here, he's there, he's every fucking where, James Wang!
Re: Cornell football 2022
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.229.45.21.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: November 24, 2022 11:45AM
Roy 82
mike1960
Find a young coach who has won at the DII level. That's always a good formula. Look at the guy at Kansas, for example.
Get a person from a low-level UK soccer league who speaks in folksy cliches. Make a documentary about it.
How 'bout this...get Ryan Reynolds. He's from a lower level UK football team, and while he doesn't speak in folksy cliches, he is entertaining when he talks. Plus having Blake Lively in the stands would be worth the price of admission.
Re: Cornell football 2022
Posted by: rss77 (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: November 26, 2022 10:10PM
Going into the season I thought going 5-5 was about the best case scenario. They did although the finish against Columbia was disappointing. The team is in better shape than it was a few years ago but noticed that especially against Harvard and Yale in terms of on field talent we are still behind. Their guys appeared to be a step quicker and more athletic. Doesn't matter who is coaching at Cornell given the structure of the League and resources of the other schools recruiting to Cornell is a challenge. My suggestion would be Archer or whoever is coaching in future is to look at the transfer portal. Cornell has a long history of taking transfers from other 4 year and 2 year schools.
Re: Cornell football 2022
Posted by: TimV (---.amc.edu)
Date: December 13, 2022 03:38PM
Ken Niumatalolo got fired by Navy after losing to Army 2 years in a row, but at one point had about 7 victories in a row, and a winning overall record at Navy, with all its recruiting disadvantages, against tough opponents. A great coach and a great man on many levels. Love to see him in Ithaca.
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"Yo Paulie - I don't see no crowd gathering 'round you neither."
"Yo Paulie - I don't see no crowd gathering 'round you neither."
Re: Cornell football 2022
Posted by: George64 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: December 13, 2022 04:39PM
TimV
Ken Niumatalolo got fired by Navy after losing to Army 2 years in a row, but at one point had about 7 victories in a row, and a winning overall record at Navy, with all its recruiting disadvantages, against tough opponents. A great coach and a great man on many levels. Love to see him in Ithaca.
As for him coming to Ithaca, really! Yes, I know his head coaching record at Navy was 109 and 83, but after going 11-2 in 2019, he’s had three losing seasons in a row! And Navy has only won its conference championship three times in the last eight years! If that’s not bad enough, his post-season bowl record is 6 and 5, just barely over .500. Certainly, Cornell expects more from its head football coach.
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Re: Cornell football 2022
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: December 14, 2022 06:47AM
George64
TimV
Ken Niumatalolo got fired by Navy after losing to Army 2 years in a row, but at one point had about 7 victories in a row, and a winning overall record at Navy, with all its recruiting disadvantages, against tough opponents. A great coach and a great man on many levels. Love to see him in Ithaca.
As for him coming to Ithaca, really! Yes, I know his head coaching record at Navy was 109 and 83, but after going 11-2 in 2019, he’s had three losing seasons in a row! And Navy has only won its conference championship three times in the last eight years! If that’s not bad enough, his post-season bowl record is 6 and 5, just barely over .500. Certainly, Cornell expects more from its head football coach.
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But Navy is in Division One and Cornell isn't in contention for a bid to the Poison Ivy Bowl in Lake Placid. I'm fine with considering anyone who currently has no connection to Cornell football.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/14/2022 07:03AM by marty.
Re: Cornell football 2022
Posted by: Trotsky (---.net.cia.gov)
Date: December 14, 2022 12:01PM
My sarcasm meter just shorted out.George64
TimV
Ken Niumatalolo got fired by Navy after losing to Army 2 years in a row, but at one point had about 7 victories in a row, and a winning overall record at Navy, with all its recruiting disadvantages, against tough opponents. A great coach and a great man on many levels. Love to see him in Ithaca.
As for him coming to Ithaca, really! Yes, I know his head coaching record at Navy was 109 and 83, but after going 11-2 in 2019, he’s had three losing seasons in a row! And Navy has only won its conference championship three times in the last eight years! If that’s not bad enough, his post-season bowl record is 6 and 5, just barely over .500. Certainly, Cornell expects more from its head football coach.
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Re: Cornell football 2022
Posted by: George64 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: December 15, 2022 05:23PM
Trotsky
My sarcasm meter just shorted out.George64
TimV
Ken Niumatalolo got fired by Navy after losing to Army 2 years in a row, but at one point had about 7 victories in a row, and a winning overall record at Navy, with all its recruiting disadvantages, against tough opponents. A great coach and a great man on many levels. Love to see him in Ithaca.
As for him coming to Ithaca, really! Yes, I know his head coaching record at Navy was 109 and 83, but after going 11-2 in 2019, he’s had three losing seasons in a row! And Navy has only won its conference championship three times in the last eight years! If that’s not bad enough, his post-season bowl record is 6 and 5, just barely over .500. Certainly, Cornell expects more from its head football coach.
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Did you purchase the extended warranty?
Re: Cornell football 2022
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: December 15, 2022 09:52PM
I'm the one in need of a trip to have my check engine light diagnosed.George64
Trotsky
My sarcasm meter just shorted out.George64
TimV
Ken Niumatalolo got fired by Navy after losing to Army 2 years in a row, but at one point had about 7 victories in a row, and a winning overall record at Navy, with all its recruiting disadvantages, against tough opponents. A great coach and a great man on many levels. Love to see him in Ithaca.
As for him coming to Ithaca, really! Yes, I know his head coaching record at Navy was 109 and 83, but after going 11-2 in 2019, he’s had three losing seasons in a row! And Navy has only won its conference championship three times in the last eight years! If that’s not bad enough, his post-season bowl record is 6 and 5, just barely over .500. Certainly, Cornell expects more from its head football coach.
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Did you purchase the extended warranty?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/15/2022 09:52PM by marty.
Re: Cornell football 2022
Posted by: Chris '03 (104.28.57.---)
Date: December 15, 2022 10:23PM
Don't know why there is so much complaining around here after Cornell set a school record this year: [www.instagram.com]
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"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."
"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."
Re: Cornell football 2022
Posted by: Scersk '97 (38.81.106.---)
Date: December 16, 2022 09:52AM
Chris '03
Don't know why there is so much complaining around here after Cornell set a school record this year: [www.instagram.com]
Honestly, there are a few glimmers of hope when one looks back over the play-by-play of the season. But we need to (1) clean up special teams, (2) reduce stalled drives in our end of the field, and, most importantly, (3) find a secondary. I would also love to reduce some of the mystifying play calling, but I know that won't happen unless Archer leaves.
TOP is great and all, but you need to convert, and your defense needs to stop giving up easy points on long bombs.
Re: Cornell football 2022
Posted by: Scersk '97 (38.81.106.---)
Date: December 16, 2022 09:59AM
Scersk '97
Chris '03
Don't know why there is so much complaining around here after Cornell set a school record this year: [www.instagram.com]
Honestly, there are a few glimmers of hope when one looks back over the play-by-play of the season. But we need to (1) clean up special teams…
By which I mean, we used to have (“back in my day”) the best punter in the league, year in year out. This year? Too many blocks, and not long enough anyway.
I become more and more convinced over time that punters should be second only to quarterbacks in recruiting.
Re: Cornell football 2022
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 16, 2022 01:23PM
Seen another way: The opposition only needed 24 minutes per game to outscore Cornell 28 points per game to our 22 ppg. They got a lot of long scoring plays whereas we made it most of the way toward the red zone or end zone ... and then could go no further.Chris '03
Don't know why there is so much complaining around here after Cornell set a school record this year: [www.instagram.com]
In WW II, Germany's time of possession was way longer than the Allies', certainly on the Western Front, 4 years to 1. But we had the fast break offense.
Re: Cornell football 2022
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (72.2.238.---)
Date: December 16, 2022 01:40PM
Against a team beaten to shit by the Russians.billhoward
Seen another way: The opposition only needed 24 minutes per game to outscore Cornell 28 points per game to our 22 ppg. They got a lot of long scoring plays whereas we made it most of the way toward the red zone or end zone ... and then could go no further.Chris '03
Don't know why there is so much complaining around here after Cornell set a school record this year: [www.instagram.com]
In WW II, Germany's time of possession was way longer than the Allies', certainly on the Western Front, 4 years to 1. But we had the fast break offense.
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Re: Cornell football 2022
Posted by: rss77 (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: December 18, 2022 02:07PM
Agree with the comments on Special Teams. As for the secondary there are a couple of comments to add-Despite criticism of Archer et al I have some praise for Jared Backus who has been the Defensive Coordinator the past few years. I think he gets maximum production out of the talent Cornell has on defense. That said however as they say it comes down to Jimmies and the Joes and not the X and Os. On pass plays Backus had the defense blitzing constantly because the front four by itself could not generate pass pressure. Even with the blitzing Cornell many times could not get pressure on the opposing team qb. Blitzing is a gamble as it leaves your secondary in one on one matchups with opposing team receivers. Coupled with overall lack of team speed in the secondary that is why Cornell was burned on long pass plays throughout the season.
Re: Cornell football 2022
Posted by: Scersk '97 (38.81.106.---)
Date: December 18, 2022 02:35PM
rss77
Agree with the comments on Special Teams. As for the secondary there are a couple of comments to add-Despite criticism of Archer et al I have some praise for Jared Backus who has been the Defensive Coordinator the past few years. I think he gets maximum production out of the talent Cornell has on defense. That said however as they say it comes down to Jimmies and the Joes and not the X and Os. On pass plays Backus had the defense blitzing constantly because the front four by itself could not generate pass pressure. Even with the blitzing Cornell many times could not get pressure on the opposing team qb. Blitzing is a gamble as it leaves your secondary in one on one matchups with opposing team receivers. Coupled with overall lack of team speed in the secondary that is why Cornell was burned on long pass plays throughout the season.
Guess my analysis was a bit off then, since it sounds like our corners are being hung out to dry and doing a reasonable job!
Just like on offense, everything starts at the line. For my part, I'd love to see us build a cold-weather, grind-it-out type of team. Bring back fullbacks and double tight ends! On D, a great front four helps stop the run, and pressure on the QB heals a lot of ills.
Guess it all comes down to what type of defensive player we can recruit and how you build a defense around that type. We have always seemed to be able to recruit good offensive linemen; time to put some emphasis on the D.
Re: Cornell football 2022
Posted by: CAS (174.166.12.---)
Date: December 19, 2022 10:00PM
Lehigh today named Yale’s OC as their new head football coach.
Re: Cornell football 2022
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 20, 2022 09:33AM
And now Cornell fans wait with bated breath to see if Kevin Cahill (Springfield '01 '04) could have become the Ivy's (read: Cornell's) next Al Bagnoli. Bagnoli went 86-19 as Union HC in the 1980s, was snapped up by Penn in 1991-92, went 148-90 and 9 Ivy titles through 2014. In hindsight, with Cornell HC openings after the 1989 and 1990 seasons, we had the chances at the time when Bagnoli could have come available.CAS
Lehigh today named Yale’s OC as their new head football coach.
[www.mcall.com]
Re: Cornell football 2022
Posted by: Ken711 (---.clppva.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 20, 2022 09:51AM
billhoward
And now Cornell fans wait with bated breath to see if Kevin Cahill (Springfield '01 '04) could have become the Ivy's (read: Cornell's) next Al Bagnoli. Bagnoli went 86-19 as Union HC in the 1980s, was snapped up by Penn in 1991-92, went 148-90 and 9 Ivy titles through 2014. In hindsight, with Cornell HC openings after the 1989 and 1990 seasons, we had the chances at the time when Bagnoli could have come available.CAS
Lehigh today named Yale’s OC as their new head football coach.
[www.mcall.com]
Cornell's next HC, if a change is made after next season, should look at current U. of Pennsylvania's OC and former Ithaca College HC Dan Swanstrom as the new Cornell HC.
Re: Cornell football 2022
Posted by: George64 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: May 09, 2023 09:09AM
Nice piece about Jameson Wang this morning on Spectrum News 1. Unusual, in that Rochester media rarely mention Cornell athletics.
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