Cornell football 2022

LOL what a finish.

Not saying there isn’t plenty to complain about when it comes to the football program, but it’s notable that it’s total crickets in here when Cornell actually manages to win a game.

I can't believe nobody has actually described the wild end of the 24-21 Cornell win.

I turned on the game very late due to family stuff and at the time there was around 2:30 left in the 4th, Cornell led by 3 and we had 2d and 10 from near midfield. On second down we ran for 8. On third, we ran an absolutely awful looking run play (slow to develop, the RB was way out of sync with the line) and lost a yard. On 4th we tried a hard count but ultimately took the delay of game and punted to the 22.

Brown kept getting first downs. Part real plays, part busted plays where the QB escaped, part an absolutely abysmal DPI on a long sideline pass but it led to Brown getting first down at the 12 yard line with just under a minute to play. It looked like the Brown RB had run for a 12-yard score and the lead, diving for the pylon, but on replay he clearly stepped out of bounds at the 1. Good enough for the first down but no TD.

First down Brown direct snapped to the RB but the safeties crashed the line and hit him at the 4. Then Brown false started. 2d and goal from the 9 and the Brown QB didn't notice the blind side rush and he got creamed, fumbled, and Cornell recovered with just under 30 seconds left and Brown out of time outs to seal the W.

BearLover
Not saying there isn’t plenty to complain about when it comes to the football program, but it’s notable that it’s total crickets in here when Cornell actually manages to win a game.

i was thinking the same thing because i didn't realize there was a page 3 and you'd already said it before i typed out the summary of the end of the game. winning interferes with the anti-archer agenda.

The official who called the laughable PI penalty on our guy who had inside position and was looking at the ball should never be allowed to officiate another college football game. It would have been disgraceful if that play cost us.

scoop85
The official who called the laughable PI penalty on our guy who had inside position and was looking at the ball should never be allowed to officiate another college football game. It would have been disgraceful if that play cost us.

Didn’t see any of the game today but there were absolutely terrible PI calls last week too.

Really, who expected the 2022 Cornell football team to be 4-2 with a reasonable chance to finish 5-5 maybe 6-4? Already David Archer has matched his best season, four wins (twice).

Cornell finishes with two likely losses against the Ivy unbeatens ...
@ Princeton 1 pm
Penn
... then two winnable games
Dartmouth
@ Columbia

Why not play Jameson Wang sparingly against Princeton and Penn so he's healthy for the two games where Cornell has a chance?

Note that when the Ivy League powers took away the season-ending Cornell-PrincetonPenn game and made it Cornell-Columbia (thus, in even years, a NYC football game the week before Cornell hockey at MSG, making it tough to get alumni/classes to decide which if any event they put tegether an event) ... plus, Princeton ending with Penn, this year a chance for the two unbeatens to play for the title.

Cornell Football Under David Acher 
Year	Team	Overall	Ivy	Standing	
2013	Cornell	3–7	2–5	7th	
2014	Cornell	1–9	1–6	7th	
2015	Cornell	1–9	1–6	T–7th	
2016	Cornell	4–6	2–5	T–6th	
2017	Cornell	3–7	3–4	T–5th	
2018	Cornell	3–7	2–5	7th	
2019	Cornell	4–6	3–4	T–4th	
2020	No team				
2021	Cornell	2–8	1–6	T–6th

Ivy League Standings After 6 of 10 Games:

billhoward
Note that when the Ivy League powers took away the season-ending Cornell-Princeton game and made it Cornell-Columbia (thus, in even years, a NYC football game the week before Cornell hockey at MSG, making it tough to get alumni/classes to decide which if any event they put tegether an event) ...

BTW, Cornell traditionally ended the season with Penn, for a long time on Thanksgiving and more recently on Saturdays.
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I’m delighted Cornell is 4-2, but let’s put this record in context. The three non-Ivy wins are over teams which are a collective 4-19. Brown’s two wins this season are over Bryant & Central Connecticut State.

I believe it was the last year for Cornell QB Jeff Matthews, 2013, when Matthews threw for just under 500 yards in a 42-41 victory over Penn at Franklin Field. Good stuff. Next to last year for Penn now Columbia coach Al Bagnoli. The stadium holds 50,000, about 7,000 showed up.

CAS
I’m delighted Cornell is 4-2, but let’s put this record in context. The three non-Ivy wins are over teams which are a collective 4-19. Brown’s two wins this season are over Bryant & Central Connecticut State.

There will be no asterisks when the season's scores go into Cornell's sports archives. It just says W. Hey, be happy for the team. Let's revisit this in two weeks when Cornell will be past the toughest part of the schedule and we're, ah, quite possibly 4-4.

billhoward
I believe it was the last year for Cornell QB Jeff Matthews, 2013, when Matthews threw for just under 500 yards in a 42-41 victory over Penn at Franklin Field. Good stuff. Next to last year for Penn now Columbia coach Al Bagnoli. The stadium holds 50,000, about 7,000 showed up.

I played on the freshman team in '78. We went to Philly to play Penn's frosh at Franklin Field - there were more players than spectators.

Would feel better about Cornell's chances of picking up 2 or 3 more wins if Eddy Tillman was healthy. By the looks of his injury Saturday he may be out for the season. Carruthers run hard but not as quick in getting to the line of scrimmage. Tillman's running was a key to the victory as Wang had trouble finding open receivers against Brown.

Can you determine the next letter in this progression:

W  L  W  L  W  W  __

Cornell at Princeton Saturday (1 pm 10/29/22) will likely be Cornell's biggest challenge of 2022. Princeton is No. 9 in the current FCS Coaches Poll [www.ncaa.com] (South Dakota State is No. 1, Holy Cross is No. 7, and, uh-oh, Cornell's season-closer Penn is in Others Receiving Votes).

Princeton's best player is senior receiver Andrei Iosivas, No. 9, on the 2022 Walter Payton Award Watch List (best offensive player). He has 40 catches for for 623 yards; Cornell has 867 receiving yards (team total). Princeton is 6-0, 15-1 since 2020 Covid shutdown. Cornell is 4-2 this year, 1-2 in the Ivies, 6-10 post-Covid.

It's also Homecoming for Princeton as well as Halloween weekend, which means lots of kids and students dressed up in orange and black. Weather is near-perfect: sunny, 60 degrees.

Pregame notes from Cornell: [cornellbigred.com]

One can only admire Cornell's marcom's upbeat attitude:

Has an Ivy ever been #1 in I-AA? How about those dominating Penn teams (86, 94, 03)?

Trotsky
Has an Ivy ever been #1 in I-AA? How about those dominating Penn teams (86, 94, 03)?

I-AA has been around since 1978, Ivies went I-AA in 1982. One of the I-A rules is attendance of 15,000 or more. Per game, the NCAA wanted.

I didn't see any indication of a No. 1 ranking. This 2018 SBNation story notes top 15 rankings:

Bill Connelly
The league has fielded at least one top-15 team in six of the last eight years, and the depth appears to be increasing quickly, too. That trend should only continue. Per HERO Sports, Princeton signed 2018’s No. 1 FCS recruiting class, and three other Ivy schools (No. 2 Yale, No. 6 Harvard, No. 14 Columbia) ranked in the top 15. Harvard and Yale ranked in the top eight in each of the last two years, too.
-- "Why the Ivy League might finally be ready to compete in the playoffs," [www.sbnation.com]

So as to keep eLynah free of obscene mutterings, do not read Reason No. 2 (Embracing Parity) for why the Ivies should be in the NCAA playoffs, do not read the David Archer comments (this in 2018). Spoiler alert: Take your hypertension meds before reading further, if you believe 2022's 4-2 record (before Penn, before Princeton) is an outlier.

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Bill Connelly
Of course, the school [Cornell] probably knew it was investing in a long-term project [hiring Archer]. In a conference full of wily veterans, Cornell promoted Archer to the head job when he was just 34.

“Five years ago,” he says, “I wasn’t as good as I am now. Having the experience of playing relevant football in November for the first time was ... if you want to squat 500 pounds, you’ve gotta feel it on your back first.”

Archer’s recruiting hasn’t caught the eye of analysts like that of other Ivies, but he’s casting a wide net to find the right 30 guys per year to bring in.

“We’re being Cornell,” he says. “Let’s be great finders. Let’s use our resources to scour the country — all 15,000 high schools that play football — and this is the No. 1 college town in the country. ‘Any person ... any study’ — let’s find people that resonates with. A blue-collar mentality, the guys who want to dig in and do something for the first time.”

Surely, there's some Cornell undergraduate, somewhere, male or female, who can punt straight ahead more than 26 yards.

Three interceptions and a fumble killing an otherwise surprising effort against a 6-0 team. A shame.

Late edit: now 5 interceptions including the 2-point conversion fiasco.

Al DeFlorio
Surely, there's some Cornell undergraduate, somewhere, male or female, who can punt straight ahead more than 26 yards.

The punting is an adventure, to put it kindly

Never seen a five-turnover Cornell team look so good. Offense moved the ball well, outgained Princeton handily in total yards. Junior tight end Manny Adebi blocked both a Princeton field goal attempt and a point after. For a short brief while in the first half, it felt as if Cornell had a chance at an upset.

Have also never seen a pick-two against my own team (2-point conversion picked off and run back 105 yards for 2 points). I can tick that off the bucket list.

It has now been about 52 times dating to 1891 that Princeton alumni at Palmer-now-Princeton Stadium have seen the Big Red Band and the Princeton Tiger, ah, scramble band at halftime and every year they say, "Cornell has a real band. Princeton has a band that runs around, lies on their backs and bicycle pumps their legs [that would be this year], you can't hear what the band announcer says which may be a good thing, and makes our band, and us, look stupid."

Princeton placekick attempt, Cornell March Band, Princeton band:

Week of 10/28-29/2022

Princeton 35, Cornell 9
Brown 34, Penn 31
Harvard 28, Dartmouth 13
Yale 41, Columbia 13

Princeton at 4-0 Ivy, 7-0 overall is alone at No. 1 in Ivy standings. Penn is no longer undefeated. What would have been the game for the Ivy title in the last weekend, Penn at Princeton, at best would lead to a Penn-Princeton tie. Actually, Penn, Harvard and Yale are all 3-1 so a three-way tie is possible.

One team at 4-0
Three at 3-1
Three including Cornell at 1-3
Columbia at 0-4.

Cornell has a chance to go 6-4 overall (beat Dartmouth, beat Columbia, lose Penn). It would be woofing to hope to also beat Penn this weekend (at Cornell) just because we beat Brown by 3 and Brown beat Penn by 3.

Cornell goes 6-4, you're going to fire a coach with the winningest record in 17 years? The previous 7-3 team was 20th century.

billhoward
Week of 10/28-29/2022

Princeton 35, Cornell 9
Brown 34, Penn 31
Harvard 28, Dartmouth 13
Yale 41, Columbia 13

Princeton at 4-0 Ivy, 7-0 overall is alone at No. 1 in Ivy standings. Penn is no longer undefeated. What would have been the game for the Ivy title in the last weekend, Penn at Princeton, at best would lead to a Penn-Princeton tie. Actually, Penn, Harvard and Yale are all 3-1 so a three-way tie is possible.

One team at 4-0
Three at 3-1
Three including Cornell at 1-3
Columbia at 0-4.

Cornell has a chance to go 6-4 overall (beat Dartmouth, beat Columbia, lose Penn). It would be woofing to hope to also beat Penn this weekend (at Cornell) just because we beat Brown by 3 and Brown beat Penn by 3.

Cornell goes 6-4, you're going to fire a coach with the winningest record in 17 years? The previous 7-3 team was 20th century.

I doubt they would fire him either, however, Archer contributed 8 of those losing records in the past 17 years.

That placekick photo is brilliant composition, Bill. It's fucking gorgeous.

Another tough week Saturday against unbeaten Penn (unbeaten until last week against Brown), which plays Cornell at home Saturday at 1 pm. Odds are this evens Cornell's record at 4-4 with lesser lights Dartmouth (home) and Columbia (NYC) closing the season. Penn also needed OT to beat Dartmouth.

I thought Cornell played well against a superior oppenent last week at Princeton, other than those five turnovers. Thus the 35-9 final. Cornell can win one, maybe two of its final three. This Saturday is the less likely place for a victory.

billhoward
Another tough week Saturday against unbeaten Penn (unbeaten until last week against Brown), which plays Cornell at home Saturday at 1 pm. Odds are this evens Cornell's record at 4-4 with lesser lights Dartmouth (home) and Columbia (NYC) closing the season. Penn also needed OT to beat Dartmouth.

I thought Cornell played well against a superior oppenent last week at Princeton, other than those five turnovers. Thus the 35-9 final. Cornell can win one, maybe two of its final three. This Saturday is the less likely place for a victory.

Yeah, and other than several turnovers and bonehead penalties, the Jets were a better team than the Patriots last weekend. Unfortunately, disciplined play is a mark of good coaching.

Cornell (and the Jets) lack disciplined play.

"Defense caught napping." Who woulda thought?

If there is a worse college football punter than Cornell's, please tell me.

Defense can't stop the run. Offense can't run. Other than that...

Ken711
If there is a worse college football punter than Cornell's, please tell me.

The overall punting game is abysmal. Impossible to believe it can be that bad at this level.

This is abysmal- the O line is just letting them through, and the D line is getting pushed back at least 5 yards. Penalties galore!! Who in their right mind would come to Cornell to play QB? This poor kid is going to be an invalid before he graduates. This entire staff needs to go!

WTF??? Are you kidding me?? That's the call?? OMG, an embarrassment. Terrible...

What is this punter doing? He runs to the side and waits before he punts, who is coaching him??

Just quit now! This football program has just sunk to unthinkable depths the past 8-10 years. We had such formidable teams with games that we were usually real competitive, even in a losing effort. I don't see that now. It seems as if the kids are not motivated and don't care. They are really overmatched, the recruiting is terrble;other than a few skill positions. Something needs to change!

First quarter and also third quarter (so-far), Cornell and Penn had 7 points each, plus Penn had 2 unanswered TDs in the second quarter. Down 28-14 with 2 minutes to play in third (and despite having a Cornell D interception nullified by an offsides), 28-14 may be too much to make up, but it's not an embarrassment.

The overall product, as I see it is not good! Outclassed by every Ivy team so far, even the Brown win was lucky!

A truly stupid playbook. Exacerbated by truly stupid playcalling.

Agreed! This is on the administration and the coaching staff. The admin has let this program slide, including the lack of facilities, hiring underwhelming coaches for short money and not allowing the football alumni to really put their stamp on the program. Basically, a disservice to the kids and their families!

Why are they calling these TO's now? None left!! Ineptitude at it's best!

billhoward
First quarter and also third quarter (so-far), Cornell and Penn had 7 points each, plus Penn had 2 unanswered TDs in the second quarter. Down 28-14 with 2 minutes to play in third (and despite having a Cornell D interception nullified by an offsides), 28-14 may be too much to make up, but it's not an embarrassment.

Would that this would be the lowest level of performance that the administration would tolerate.

A loss but a quality loss to once-beaten Penn. 28-21, Cornell's final TD coming with :04 to play.

Okay, we've lost to the zero-loss Princeton and one-loss Penn the last two weeks. Dartmouth and Columbia are attainable. We can finish anywhere from 6-4 to 4-6. Even 4-6 we've attained only once 2017-2022.

Maybe Cornell in the off-season can bring in some receivers and pass blockers to keep Jameson Wang out of the transfer portal. He's fun to watch.


Rest of the Ivies:
Princeton at home just got by Dartmouth, 17-14
Yale hammered Brown, 69-17. Unless that's a basketball score.
Columbia up on Harvard 21-20 with 10 minutes to play final.

Ivy standings with 2 games to play 
Princeton   5-0 
Penn        4-1
Yale        4-1
Harvard     3-2
Cornell     1-4
Dartmouth   1-4
Columbia    1-4
Brown       1-4

The top four play each other in the final two weeks. Ditto the bottom four. When the Ivy League rejiggered the schedule with an eye, they said, toward fewer long-travel final games (5 miles less for Cornell-Columbia vs. Cornell-Penn). But it does have the top four playing each other in the last four weeks, which is probably what the Ivy PTBs hoped for.

Cornell is 2-10 in the Ivies the last two seasons. Hard to be optimistic about these last 2 games. Archer has now clinched his ninth consecutive losing Ivy season

They need more than a few "blockers". Both lines are undersized, not strong enough and not talented enough to keep up with the other Ivy's except maybe Brown. Columbia has past them. The University needs to decide if they want to put more money to the program- fix up the stadium, get another opposite side of the field seating arrangement, hire a whole new coaching staff and recruit their butts off to convince some of the higher rated players to come to Cornell. Otherwise, it is a self fulfilling prophecy of more losing.

They have skill players, it's the rest of the team that's lacking. This QB is dynamite, but I could easily see him leaving for greener pastures.

mikers
They need more than a few "blockers". Both lines are undersized, not strong enough and not talented enough to keep up with the other Ivy's except maybe Brown. Columbia has past them. The University needs to decide if they want to put more money to the program- fix up the stadium, get another opposite side of the field seating arrangement, hire a whole new coaching staff and recruit their butts off to convince some of the higher rated players to come to Cornell. Otherwise, it is a self fulfilling prophecy of more losing.

They have skill players, it's the rest of the team that's lacking. This QB is dynamite, but I could easily see him leaving for greener pastures.

What about forgetting about football and putting the savings into (both men's and women's) hockey, lacrosse, soccer, and wrestling?

I think they already have done that!

Don't think Wang is going anywhere as he has already transferred once. He was at the Air Force Academy preseason camp and walked away. Archer said at one of the sports luncheons last year that he is on a full ride at Cornell because he declared himself emancipated from his parents. Don't forget that Cornell was missing two out of three of their top running backs. I think we saw today what a difference good special teams play makes. The Penn punter got off some good boots and Cornell always seemed to be starting on their own twenty or twenty five after punts. Compare that to Cornell's struggles on punt blocks and one imagines that Dartmouth and Columbia will be gunning for the same the next two weekends. And one begs the questions-why so many offsides on defense this late in the season? This was a winnable game IMO.

Archer is now 16-45 (26% win percentage) in the Ivies as Cornell’s head coach. Btw those 3 non-league wins this year are over teams who are a combined 5-22 this season.

mikers
They need more than a few "blockers". Both lines are undersized, not strong enough and not talented enough to keep up with the other Ivy's except maybe Brown. Columbia has past them. The University needs to decide if they want to put more money to the program- fix up the stadium, get another opposite side of the field seating arrangement, hire a whole new coaching staff and recruit their butts off to convince some of the higher rated players to come to Cornell. Otherwise, it is a self fulfilling prophecy of more losing.

They have skill players, it's the rest of the team that's lacking. This QB is dynamite, but I could easily see him leaving for greener pastures.

I agree. When I'm able to see a replay of Cornell games, I often think: weight room. These guys need more beef to win at this game.

Great pictures above! I saw this on Instagram by Eldon Lindsey that's great too.

[www.instagram.com]

mike1960

Great pictures above! I saw this on Instagram by Eldon Lindsey that's great too.

[www.instagram.com]

I don’t do instagram, so I hadn’t seen Eldon Lindsey’s work before. He’s truly an outstanding sports photographer. Great photos of other Cornell athletes.
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Dartmouth at Cornell, Schoellkopf Field, Saturday 1 p.m. A winnable game, as is the finale at Columbia. Unlike the Princeton, Penn games of the past two weeks.

The bottom four – sorry, the four teams competing to finish fifth – all are 1-4. Cornell can finish as good as 6-4 overall and/but the best Ivy finish is 3-4.

Other Ivy games, all Saturday. The top four (Ivy standings) play each other, ditto the bottom four:
Princeton at Yale, noon
Columbia at Brown, noon
Harvard at Penn, 1 pm

billhoward
Dartmouth at Cornell, Schoellkopf Field, Saturday 1 p.m. A winnable game, as is the finale at Columbia. Unlike the Princeton, Penn games of the past two weeks.

The bottom four – sorry, the four teams competing to finish fifth – all are 1-4. Cornell can finish as good as 6-4 overall and/but the best Ivy finish is 3-4.

Other Ivy games, all Saturday. The top four (Ivy standings) play each other, ditto the bottom four:
Princeton at Yale, noon
Columbia at Brown, noon
Harvard at Penn, 1 pm

So you're saying the best finish that Archer can attain in the Ivy League at this point is a losing record of 3-4 after a dozen years at the helm...lovely.

Not going to start a separate thread, but just noticed that the sprint football team went 1-6 this year and was shut out 4 times, including a 72-0 loss to Army. Penn is the only other Ivy that still plays sprint football. Outside of Cornell, Penn, Army and Navy, all the other schools that play sprint football look to be in Division II. (I know that the coach, Terry Cullen, has been part of the program since like the '60s and has been the head coach for 40+ years.)

Cornell has found somebody from the second echelon of the league it can more than hold its own against. In the first half. First quarter, no score, Cornell has possession 10 of the 15 minutes.

Early in the second, Cornell goes up 7-0, combination of Wang passing, Wang running and Cornell (non QB) running. Dartmouth then comes back, marches up the field (or down, whichever way it is toward Schoellkopf House) and in the red zone, Dartmouth scores on a halfback option pass when, ah, Cornell has no one defending in the end zone. But the PAT kick fails (Cornell is good at other teams flubbing place kicks.) Cornell 7-6.

Late in the second, Cornell gets the ball on its 30 and four plays (including a penalty for offsides) later Wang is sacked on the 5 and shaken up. Since Cornell controls the cameras, we never saw if he walked, was helped, or carried off the field. Punting from the end zone, Cornell punts the ball all the way to the 30. Our 30, or 31, alas. Then Cornell turned on the defense: safety Brody Kidwell stuffed the Dartmouth RB for minus-five, yada yada, and on fourth and sixth, the Dartmouth pass was batted down. It was Wang who came back out, ran one play, and the clock expired. Halftime: Cornell 7, Dartmouth 6.

Third quarter, there was punchless offense for a bit: gain of 2, offsides makes it first and 15, another penalty, bad play and it's like 25 yards from the first down, which means a punt would net maybe 10 yards from where the Red started. More lively late third period: Dartmouth scores, then Davon Kiser runs back the kickoff. Score: 13-12 Cornell.

Early fourth quarter, a decent Cornell drive stalls, Cornell FB (we're good at PATs, FGs) makes it 17-13. Teams swap midfield fumbles. Cornell misses a 45-yard field goal late, Dartmouth marches, Cornell bats down 2 passes back to back but Dartmouth gets a fourth-down first down, continues to the Cornell 8, final play caught by Dartmouth just outside then end zone.

Final Cornell 17, Dartmouth 13, Cornell has its first 5-win seasons Marinaro ran for -- sorry, since 2011. On to NYC and Columbia. Meanwhile, Princeton knocked off by Yale so there's a chance of a multi-way tie for first.

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Two hours after the game, no game story from Cornell. CornellBigRed-com landing page leads with polo (at least that's the first image in the slider three of four times I loaded the page). The football page shows Cornell holding on to beat Dartmouth ... in 2006 ... a Throwback Thursday story.

Not to be snippy, Cornell is not overstaffed in sports PR athletic communications. Still, Dartmouth (which was on the road, not at home) got its story posted by 5 pm, ditto Princeton which had crushing news to tell its faithful: the first loss by its top-25 football team. Cornell fans may be happier with what will be a 6-4 or 5-5 season than Princeton which may finish with one loss.

But we have better hockey teams.

Another sub-30 yard punt sets up Dartmouth for a possible late first-half score. Some awful play-calling on last two three-and-outs.

Al DeFlorio
Another sub-30 yard punt sets up Dartmouth for a possible late first-half score. Some awful play-calling on last two three-and-outs.

but a really solid defensive drive (and Dartmouth not having a kicker they trust) results in a bat-down by the nose tackle on 4th and long and then Cornell let the clock run down on offense. Goes into the half up 7-6.

Around the league, we've got upset watches going on plus another 1-4 matchup

Yale is leading Princeton 17-14
Harvard is leading Penn 17-7
Columbia was up 21-0 on Brown but it's 21-14 now

Al DeFlorio
Another sub-30 yard punt sets up Dartmouth for a possible late first-half score. Some awful play-calling on last two three-and-outs.

The awful play-calling might be Cornell not wanting to pass and wound up intercepted deep in Cornell territory. But maybe knowing the alternative is more suicidal -- ponting with your heels edged up against the end of the end zone -- maybe you do put the ball in the air.

Nice broken tackle by Carruthers on a screen to get a first down followed by a short gain, then two penalties to make it 2nd and 22. Get out of your own way! Then Wang barely looks for an open receiver and pulls it down for a 3 yard run and then another pass underneath but at least this punt won't come from under the goalpost and might even cross midfield... yes. wow. Down to the 29. Still 7-6 but someone has to get open more than 3 yards from the line of scrimmage.

Hearing St. Lawrence's grating hockey announcers last night, then hearing our guy Barry Leonard (actually, IC'80's) guy call Cornell football. His voice is like listening to smooth jazz when smooth jazz was cool even if Father Time has run out on that genre.

NYT story on Barry Leonard during Cornell's Sweet Sixteen run (should be a free link):
[www.nytimes.com]

I'd love to get Barry to learn about wrestling and take over calling the home duals. The wrestling guy is brutal.

Cornell gives up a TD drive to fall behind 13-7 then returns the kickoff for a TD to take the lead back. Great return. Blocking was clean and frosh WR Kiser* streaked up the sideline for the score.

* ESPN says Lewis III because both have uniform #0

Yale up 24-20 with under 2 minutes left and just intercepted Princeton. Harvard rolling Penn. Columbia holding on 24-21 over Brown with ~5 minutes left.

Cornell forces a 3 and out. Gets a first down on their drive and has the ball at around midfield as Q3 ends with the good guys up 14-13.

Good Cornell drive stalls out in the red zone on a conservative 3rd and 3 call that went nowhere but gets a FG out of the drive. 17-13 with around 10 minutes left. Cornell then gets a 3 and out and NEARLY a pick on 3d down in Dartmouth territory.

Princeton goes down to Yale and both will go to the final weekend controlling their destiny for a share of the Ivy title. Columbia doesn't go for a FG up 24-21 from the 17 then gives up a 2-minute drill FG at the whistle to head to OT. Harvard up 20 at the end of Q3.

Immediate fumble by Cornell on the first play after the punt and Dartmouth has the ball at around midfield with 8:56 minutes to go.

Dartmouth QB takes off on 3d and 10, gets the first down but gets stripped on the tackle and Cornell takes it back! Awesome.

Cornell gets two first downs but runs an inexplicable sweep on second and long that went out of bounds after a short gain and then a run up the gut on third down that seemed designed only to force Dartmouth to call a time out. Probably going to punt after the break and hope to down it inside the 10... nope going for it ... YES! First down Big Red! 3 minutes left.

Columbia gets the OT TD and beats Brown 31-24. Harvard still beating Penn badly with time running out.

If Harvard and Penn win next week, 4-way Ivy title tie.

Cornell forces Dartmouth to call their last time out... Cornell going for a 45 yard FG... but wide right. Dartmouth takes over from the 35 with 1:29 left.

5 yard gain and Cornell does a great job to stop progress in bounds to keep the clock rolling... 2d down pass knocked down at the line, 1:02 left... 3d down pass knocked down again... for the game... 4th and 5... first down to the 46... 52 seconds left...

9 yard gain tackled in bounds... pass complete to the 35 out of bounds with 35 seconds left...

1st down incomplete 20 seconds left...

Complete to the 25, OOB 14 seconds left... Complete to the 10, spiked football. 4 seconds left... Cornell timeout.

Fade to the corner... too deep Dartmouth makes the catch but out of bounds.

CORNELL VICTORIOUS!

And if you read Trotsky's first post on the page you already knew.

ugarte
Fade to the corner... too deep Dartmouth makes the catch but out of bounds.


CORNELL VICTORIOUS!

And if you read Trotsky's first post on the page you already knew.

Fortunately Dartmouth had a pretty inept offense.

scoop85
Fortunately Dartmouth had a pretty inept offense.

Ivy Leaguers prefer to say the league is competitive top to bottom.

Ivy Standings After 9 Games [Before THE GAME]
Yale       5-1
Princeton  5-1
Harvard    4-2
Penn       4-2
Cornell    2-4
Columbia   2-4
Brown      1-5
Dartmouth  1-5

If: Harvard beats Yale (which has a W3 streak), Penn beats Princeton, HYP plus P all tie for first. Cornell beats Columbia, then Cornell will have to wordsmith a way to imply Cornell is second in the league.

billhoward

Ivy Standings After 9 Games [Before THE GAME]
Yale       5-1
Princeton  5-1
Harvard    4-2
Penn       4-2
Cornell    2-4
Columbia   2-4
Brown      1-5
Dartmouth  1-5

If: Harvard beats Yale (which has a W3 streak), Penn beats Princeton, HYP plus P all tie for first. Cornell beats Columbia, then Cornell will have to wordsmith a way to imply Cornell is second in the league.

Second best record in the league. Best record? 5-2. Second best? 3-4

Al DeFlorio

billhoward

Ivy Standings After 9 Games [Before THE GAME]
Yale       5-1
Princeton  5-1
Harvard    4-2
Penn       4-2
Cornell    2-4
Columbia   2-4
Brown      1-5
Dartmouth  1-5

If: Harvard beats Yale (which has a W3 streak), Penn beats Princeton, HYP plus P all tie for first. Cornell beats Columbia, then Cornell will have to wordsmith a way to imply Cornell is second in the league.

Second best record in the league. Best record? 5-2. Second best? 3-4

finishing immediately behind the league winners

Running Back Carruthers threw a devastating block to spring him. The end zone view of the run looked to me like the guy he smashed took out a second Dartmouth pursuer. Carruthers had a great game, even with the fumble.

Not sure if this means they’ll be wearing alternate helmets this week?

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Kind of exciting, Cornell football with the first chance to have a winning record in almost two decades. At Columbia, Saturday 1pm. Parade afterward (Sy Katz '31 Parade), lots of fun.

Both teams are 2-4 in Ivy play, 5-4 overall. Winner finishes fifth. Cornell does that, they may be almost as happy as Princeton finishing 9-1.

Princeton, Yale, Penn, Harvard could all finish 5-2 in Penn beats Princeton, Harvard beats Yale.


Last time:

6-4 record -- 2005, Jim Knowles (second season)

5-5 record -- 2011, Kent Austin

4-6 record -- 2019, 2016, David Archer

Cornell pregame story: [cornellbigred.com]

Ivy standings before final game:

who else is going to be there tomorrow (cold but apparently sunny)

Columbia TD on 1st drive, with a 53 pass completion a big part of it. Cornell's defense looks asleep this game.

George64

billhoward

George64
Suppose, however, that Cornell goes 2 and 5 in Ivy League play?

Could happen. That means finishing the Ivy schedule 2-3. Beating Princeton will be difficult. Ditto Dartmouth. Columbia and Brown seem most likely to help Cornnell to pick up the wins. Brown's Ivy loss was to Harvard, also 35-28. Penn, Columbia and Brown I believe have played 3 of the 4 first games against non-Ivies. Penn at 4-0 is impressive; the Ivy win was in OT vs. Dartmouth.

Yes, it could happen, but at 5 and 5 with yet another losing season in the Ivies, do you think Archer would stay or go?
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Well, we’re about to find out. Of course, we again defied the preseason media poll and finished tied for sixth place, not last.
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George64

George64

billhoward

George64
Suppose, however, that Cornell goes 2 and 5 in Ivy League play?

Could happen. That means finishing the Ivy schedule 2-3. Beating Princeton will be difficult. Ditto Dartmouth. Columbia and Brown seem most likely to help Cornnell to pick up the wins. Brown's Ivy loss was to Harvard, also 35-28. Penn, Columbia and Brown I believe have played 3 of the 4 first games against non-Ivies. Penn at 4-0 is impressive; the Ivy win was in OT vs. Dartmouth.

Yes, it could happen, but at 5 and 5 with yet another losing season in the Ivies, do you think Archer would stay or go?
.

Well, we’re about to find out. Of course, we again defied the preseason media poll and finished tied for sixth place, not last.
.

More importantly I think the athletic department has to figure out whether Bill Howard jinxed them or perhaps they should blame ugarte.

Fire Archer! 10 years is a largest sample size to see a change is required, his 17-45 Ivy League conference record says it all.

Columbia clobbers Cornell 45-22. It was as good as 14-7 at the half, as bad as 35-7 a minute into the fourth quarter. Cornell ends 5-5 (best for the David Archer era), only 2-5 in the Ivies, good for sixth place. Better than expected. But still not good.

Yale won its last four games including The Game (19-14) and what could have been a four-way tie of Yale, Princeton, Penn, Harvard at 5-2 ends with Yale No. 1 at 6-1, then Penn (20-19 over Princeton aftering being down 19-7 entering Q4) and Penn at 5-2.

Cornell was predicted to finish 8th and finished in a tie for sixth. That's better than expected for 2022 but not much of a record for David Archer's 10 years at the helm: 26-64.

Archer will get another year, I believe:
* It's his best year
* It's an improvement on the previous season's 2-8
* There's nobody to take (or demand) a resignation, or start a search. Outgoing athletic director Andy Noel is in the process of winding down his Cornell tenure and he's not going to saddle the successor with a coach not of her choosing.
* Archer got Cornell to .500 and after a decade, what's one more year (with Jameson Wang as QB) to improve.

Yale has to be happy about winning the Ivies, no shared titled. Princeton has to be upset about being unbeaten until game 9, then losing narrowly to Yale 24-20 and Penn 20-19. Columbia has to be minorly happy about being 3-4 and finishing 6-4.

FYI the pre-season media poll had it:
1. Harvard (tie)
1. Dartmouth (tie)
3. Princeton
4. Yale
5. Columbia
6. Penn
7. Brown
8. Cornell

to fire the coach you need the school to care about the record.

Ken711
Fire Archer! 10 years is a largest sample size to see a change is required, his 17-45 Ivy League conference record says it all.

You improved his Ivy record — he’s in fact 17-46.

billhoward
Cornell was predicted to finish 8th and finished in a tie for sixth. That's better than expected for 2022 but not much of a record for David Archer's 10 years at the helm: 26-64.

Archer will get another year, I believe:
* It's his best year
* It's an improvement on the previous season's 2-8
* There's nobody to take (or demand) a resignation, or start a search. Outgoing athletic director Andy Noel is in the process of winding down his Cornell tenure and he's not going to saddle the successor with a coach not of her choosing.
* Archer got Cornell to .500 and after a decade, what's one more year (with Jameson Wang as QB) to improve.

Yale has to be happy about winning the Ivies, no shared titled. Princeton has to be upset about being unbeaten until game 9, then losing narrowly to Yale 24-20 and Penn 20-19. Columbia has to be minorly happy about being 3-4 and finishing 6-4.

IMHO Bullet point 3 is the key one. The new AD will get to pick the new coach.

And Dartmouth fans have to be ticked at this season.

Cornell’s three non-league wins were over teams that were a combined 6-27 this season.

CAS
Cornell’s three non-league wins were over teams that were a combined 6-27 this season.

And the two Ivy League wins were over teams with a 3-11 Ivy League record.

billhoward

Archer will get another year, I believe:

* There's nobody to take (or demand) a resignation, or start a search. Outgoing athletic director Andy Noel is in the process of winding down his Cornell tenure and he's not going to saddle the successor with a coach not of her choosing.

According to the press release, “Noel will serve in the position through the end of the 2021-22 academic year and into the 2022-23 academic year until a successor is named.” A national search will commence in late summer.” Summer is over, so the search committee should be well on its way to finding Noel’s successor. I’m certain that the future direction of football must a top priority for the committee and that leading candidates will have given it some thought. I’d hope he/she will be in place in early Spring . . .

George64

billhoward

Archer will get another year, I believe:

* There's nobody to take (or demand) a resignation, or start a search. Outgoing athletic director Andy Noel is in the process of winding down his Cornell tenure and he's not going to saddle the successor with a coach not of her choosing.

According to the press release, “Noel will serve in the position through the end of the 2021-22 academic year and into the 2022-23 academic year until a successor is named.” A national search will commence in late summer.” Summer is over, so the search committee should be well on its way to finding Noel’s successor. I’m certain that the future direction of football must a top priority for the committee and that leading candidates will have given it some thought. I’d hope he/she will be in place in early Spring . . .

It's highly doubtful Archer will better his record next season, so the new AD will be searching for a new football HC as his/her first major hire.

Two of the five teams Cornell beat, Lehigh and VMI, are replacing their head coaches.

Ken711

George64

billhoward

Archer will get another year, I believe:

* There's nobody to take (or demand) a resignation, or start a search. Outgoing athletic director Andy Noel is in the process of winding down his Cornell tenure and he's not going to saddle the successor with a coach not of her choosing.

According to the press release, “Noel will serve in the position through the end of the 2021-22 academic year and into the 2022-23 academic year until a successor is named.” A national search will commence in late summer.” Summer is over, so the search committee should be well on its way to finding Noel’s successor. I’m certain that the future direction of football must a top priority for the committee and that leading candidates will have given it some thought. I’d hope he/she will be in place in early Spring . . .

It's highly doubtful Archer will better his record next season, so the new AD will be searching for a new football HC as his/her first major hire.

If you go 5-5 as Cornell coach you probably have earned a one year contract to be fair. That's like finishing .500 in the ECAC for Brown hockey.

Cornell football finished 2-5 in the Ivies. Going 3-0 against non-Ivy teams who were a combined 6-27 doesn’t negate another dismal Ivy season. Why do some accept being a doormat in football? Look
at the turnaround of Cornell soccer. As a 14th seed, Cornell is into the 3rd round of the NCAA tourney. 205 teams play D-1 soccer. Don’t know why, with the right coach & support, Cornell shouldn’t be competitive in Ivy football.

Trotsky

Ken711

George64

billhoward

Archer will get another year, I believe:

* There's nobody to take (or demand) a resignation, or start a search. Outgoing athletic director Andy Noel is in the process of winding down his Cornell tenure and he's not going to saddle the successor with a coach not of her choosing.

According to the press release, “Noel will serve in the position through the end of the 2021-22 academic year and into the 2022-23 academic year until a successor is named.” A national search will commence in late summer.” Summer is over, so the search committee should be well on its way to finding Noel’s successor. I’m certain that the future direction of football must a top priority for the committee and that leading candidates will have given it some thought. I’d hope he/she will be in place in early Spring . . .

It's highly doubtful Archer will better his record next season, so the new AD will be searching for a new football HC as his/her first major hire.

If you go 5-5 as Cornell coach you probably have earned a one year contract to be fair. That's like finishing .500 in the ECAC for Brown hockey.

Saying Cornell football is a .500 team is this year’s version of everybody last year saying the hockey team was 9-0-1 after winning 4 games at home in OT vs bad teams (which counts as less than half of a win in the PWR).

It's striking (to me, anyway) that Andy's weekend summary covers everything EXCEPT football. It is included, way down near the bottom of the SID's list.

i would not oppose a coaching change i just don't really care that much or think it will make that much difference, just as the last few changes did not. i don't think it's a particuarly coveted job.