Cornell football 2022

George64

Al DeFlorio
VMI must be dreadful.

VMI game was a tale of two halves — Cornell 21-2 in the first half, then 7-20 in the second. Regression to the mean?
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CAS
Cornell is now 15-42 in the Ivies with Dave Archer as head coach, & losers of 7 of their last 8 in the league.

Ken711

CAS
Cornell is now 15-42 in the Ivies with Dave Archer as head coach, & losers of 7 of their last 8 in the league.

There is absolutely no way to justify bringing back Archer for another year.,,,none. The first order of business for the new AD has to be finding a new coaching staff.

dbilmes

Ken711

CAS
Cornell is now 15-42 in the Ivies with Dave Archer as head coach, & losers of 7 of their last 8 in the league.

There is absolutely no way to justify bringing back Archer for another year.,,,none. The first order of business for the new AD has to be finding a new coaching staff.

But Cornell is consistently doing better than the preseason predictions. Just last year, for example, we finished two spots higher in the Ivies than had been forecast!

Swampy
I propose that until we get a coach who establishes a winning tradition, we don't hire any more alumni as HC. Recent history (at least the past 40 years) has been a progression to doormat status. We need a coach who knows how to pick a program up from the floor.

Swampy
I propose that until we get a coach who establishes a winning tradition, we don't hire any more alumni as HC. Recent history (at least the past 40 years) has been a progression to doormat status. We need a coach who knows how to pick a program up from the floor.

arugula
On the plus side, I like the new sleeve stripes. Think they’re new.

scoop85
Now 21-21 after fumble returned for a td. Our RBs have no instincts or speed, and you can see clearly we are not a well coached team

rss77
Kudos to Wang on his game. He is just fun to watch with both his running and passing. Very remindful of Gary Wood back in the day.

CU2007
With what we know about brain trauma, many believe football to now be a dying sport. Cornell was just 30 years ahead of the curve.

Al DeFlorio

CU2007
With what we know about brain trauma, many believe football to now be a dying sport. Cornell was just 30 years ahead of the curve.

For many years Cornell's football helmets had padding on the outer surface. Looked kind of goofy and have no idea if it helped: [www.google.com]

George64

Al DeFlorio

CU2007
With what we know about brain trauma, many believe football to now be a dying sport. Cornell was just 30 years ahead of the curve.

For many years Cornell's football helmets had padding on the outer surface. Looked kind of goofy and have no idea if it helped: [www.google.com]

The helmets were pioneered by athletic trainer and Hall of Fame inductee Frank “Doc” Kavanaugh. Perhaps, like the crumple zone on cars, the exterior padding absorbs some of the initial impact of a collision? Good question for eLynah engineers.
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billhoward
Things are looking up for the 2022 Big Red gridders after the 24-21 win at Colgate. Cornell has already matched 2021's win total. Is .500 possible? Four and six? Lehigh, at Cornell in two weeks, is 1-4 and seems beatable. Take down two Ivy teams, that's a .500 season. Jameson Wang seems like the real deal at QB.

Can anybody be at least a little bit happy that Cornell has a winning team to date?

Al DeFlorio

billhoward
Things are looking up for the 2022 Big Red gridders after the 24-21 win at Colgate. Cornell has already matched 2021's win total. Is .500 possible? Four and six? Lehigh, at Cornell in two weeks, is 1-4 and seems beatable. Take down two Ivy teams, that's a .500 season. Jameson Wang seems like the real deal at QB.

Can anybody be at least a little bit happy that Cornell has a winning team to date?

Geez, Bill. Wins are rare enough that we should get the score right.

Aaron Snyder, The Cornell Daily Sun
Prediction: Harvard 31 Cornell 17
I’ve fallen to 0-3 in my picks (I’ll note that I’m 2-1 against the spread), but I’m feeling good about my chances of picking up my first win this week. There were a lot of positive takeaways from Cornell’s wins over VMI and Colgate, but Harvard is the better team in this matchup. Cornell’s recent success against Harvard at home gives me enough hesitation to think Cornell will keep this within two possessions.

billhoward
Harvard plays Cornell Friday Oct. 3 at Schoellkopf Field, ESPNU, 7 pm. Temperature will be 50 degrees, some chance of rain.

Harvard is 1-1: beat a decent Merrimack 28-21 in OT, beat Brown 35-28, then its strongest game, lost to Holy Cross 30-21. Harvard and Dartmouth were tied atop the pre-season media poll; Cornell now 2-1 was picked for eighth and last place and is now 2-1.

Cornell PR's pre-game notes: [cornellbigred.com]
Cornell Daily Sun preview: [cornellsun.com]

The Sun's Aaron Snyder picks Harvard.

Aaron Snyder, The Cornell Daily Sun
Prediction: Harvard 31 Cornell 17
I’ve fallen to 0-3 in my picks (I’ll note that I’m 2-1 against the spread), but I’m feeling good about my chances of picking up my first win this week. There were a lot of positive takeaways from Cornell’s wins over VMI and Colgate, but Harvard is the better team in this matchup. Cornell’s recent success against Harvard at home gives me enough hesitation to think Cornell will keep this within two possessions.

A win would be an amazing accomplishment. True, Cornell has won the last two home games against Harvard, but that last win was 2018.

billhoward
Cornell now 2-1 was picked for eighth and last place and is now 2-1.

Al DeFlorio
Can we please stop handing the ball to a guy starting nine yards behind the line of scrimmage? How about some option plays to free Jameson.

ugarte
the screen was a good call but poorly executed. our OL is outmatched and our punter is horrible. this is rough.

Al DeFlorio

ugarte
the screen was a good call but poorly executed. our OL is outmatched and our punter is horrible. this is rough.

But then two runs? Against z line that's manhandling ours?

ugarte

Al DeFlorio

ugarte
the screen was a good call but poorly executed. our OL is outmatched and our punter is horrible. this is rough.

But then two runs? Against z line that's manhandling ours?

i agree! 1 good play call on that drive but the fact is that Wang is on an island. No help at all.

billhoward
OMG: Cornell gets the game's first score, 12 minutes in, long drive after a short Harvard opening possession. Not much run, couple nice third-and-long passes, roughing call gave Cornell life inside the 10. #moralvictory
But need a real victory, too.

OMG Part Deux: Harvard stalls and settles for a field goal. C7-3. Cornell stalls, punts, high snap, blocked, Harvard returns for a TD. Cornell cannot win if it makes unforced major errors; be hard enough to win if Cornell makes zero errors. H10-7 midway into the second.

Second half, Harvard grinds away, mistakes by both sides, Harvard goes up 27-14, Cornell mounts a decent drive with several good catches offsetting some going-nowhere runs. Then a very good Cornell drive gets Cornell a score and PAT to cut it to 27-21 midway through the fourth.

Harvard score, then excellent Cornell drive to close the score to 35-28 with a minute to play, Cornell can't recover the onside kick. This was a quality loss.

Jameson Wang looked pretty beaten up. I wonder if he would have gone back in if Cornell recovered. If his ankle is marginal, maybe he should sit out the Lehigh game, which is winninable, but it's not an Ivy game where Cornell is now 0-2.

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Attendance somewhat less than the homecoming fireworks crowd, Cornell's previous fall event Friday night at Schoellkopf. Kind of sad. (This is Fall Break weekend.)

blackwidow
I feel bad for Wang. He does not deserves better than Mr. Archer.

mike1960
Is there such a thing as a quality loss?

blackwidow
I feel bad for Wang. He does not deserves better than Mr. Archer.

 5-5 +3 wins in 2022 was a big improvement over 2021, looking forward to 2023 
 4-6 +2 wins vs. 2021 is okay, ties Archer's best years (2017, 2019) 
 3-7 +1 wins vs. 2021 is borderline (stay or go) 
 2-8 We've already got the 2 wins parts, this means Cornell loses out, goes 0-7 Ivy, something an Archer team has never done (go) 

Ivy League week 4 (Oct. 7-8 2022)
(T1) Harvard 35    (8) Cornell 28
(3)  Princeton 23  Lafayette 2 
(4)  Yale 24       (T1) Dartmouth 21 
(6)  Penn 52       Georgetown 28
(5)  Columbia 28   Wagner 7 
(7)  Brown 27      Central Connecticut St. 20 

billhoward
We all wish Cornell did better the last decade. Jameson Wang did choose to play for Cornell and Archer.

The eLynah 360-Feedback Committee should all decide how good of a season must Cornell have to say, "Let's give the coach another year to see if there's an upward slope?" My should he stay or should he go performance criteria:

 5-5 +3 wins in 2022 was a big improvement over 2021, looking forward to 2023 

George64
Suppose, however, that Cornell goes 2 and 5 in Ivy League play?

mike1960
Is there such a thing as a quality loss?

billhoward

George64
Suppose, however, that Cornell goes 2 and 5 in Ivy League play?

Could happen. That means finishing the Ivy schedule 2-3. Beating Princeton will be difficult. Ditto Dartmouth. Columbia and Brown seem most likely to help Cornnell to pick up the wins. Brown's Ivy loss was to Harvard, also 35-28. Penn, Columbia and Brown I believe have played 3 of the 4 first games against non-Ivies. Penn at 4-0 is impressive; the Ivy win was in OT vs. Dartmouth.

George64

billhoward

George64
Suppose, however, that Cornell goes 2 and 5 in Ivy League play?

Could happen. That means finishing the Ivy schedule 2-3. Beating Princeton will be difficult. Ditto Dartmouth. Columbia and Brown seem most likely to help Cornnell to pick up the wins. Brown's Ivy loss was to Harvard, also 35-28. Penn, Columbia and Brown I believe have played 3 of the 4 first games against non-Ivies. Penn at 4-0 is impressive; the Ivy win was in OT vs. Dartmouth.

Yes, it could happen, but at 5 and 5 with yet another losing season in the Ivies, do you think Archer would stay or go?
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RichH
You'd have to find someone willing to fire him.

RichH

George64

billhoward

George64
Suppose, however, that Cornell goes 2 and 5 in Ivy League play?

Could happen. That means finishing the Ivy schedule 2-3. Beating Princeton will be difficult. Ditto Dartmouth. Columbia and Brown seem most likely to help Cornnell to pick up the wins. Brown's Ivy loss was to Harvard, also 35-28. Penn, Columbia and Brown I believe have played 3 of the 4 first games against non-Ivies. Penn at 4-0 is impressive; the Ivy win was in OT vs. Dartmouth.

Yes, it could happen, but at 5 and 5 with yet another losing season in the Ivies, do you think Archer would stay or go?
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You'd have to find someone willing to fire him.

Cornell and Lehigh Football 2022
Date     Cornell 2-2            Lehigh 1-5 as of Oct. 8 games
Sep 02   ---                    L Villanova 45-17  
Sep 10   ---                    W Georgetown 21-19
Sep 17   W VMI 28-22            L Richmond 30-6
Sep 24   L Yale 38-14           L Princeton 29-17
Oct 01   W Colgate 34-31        L Monmouth 35-7
Oct 7-8  L Harvard 35-28        L Fordham 40-28
Oct 15     Lehigh                 Cornell

1:00  Berman Field        Soccer     Penn    8-1-1  2-0-0 Ivy (Cornell 9-2, 2-0)
1:00  Schoellkopf Field   Football   Lehigh

CAS
Soccer game is at 4:00

CAS
Cornell’s 3 non-Ivy wins are over teams with a combined record of 3-16 this year.

billhoward
Has there ever been a four-way title tie?

CU2007
My HS team finds the worst teams in the entire state of Ohio, goes 4-0 non-league, gets demolished in all 5 league games, then proudly claims they went 4-5. Cornell seems to have tried a similar approach this year.

Trotsky

billhoward
Has there ever been a four-way title tie?

Nope. 3-way ties in:

66 (6-1: Drt, Hvd, Prn)
69 (6-1: Drt, Prn, Yal)
82 (5-2: Drt, Hvd, Pen)
15 (6-1: Drt, Hvd, Pen)

Scersk '97

Trotsky

billhoward
Has there ever been a four-way title tie?

Nope. 3-way ties in:

66 (6-1: Drt, Hvd, Prn)
69 (6-1: Drt, Prn, Yal)
82 (5-2: Drt, Hvd, Pen)
15 (6-1: Drt, Hvd, Pen)

Princeton "prevented" a four-way in 1995 by kicking a last-second, 18-yard field goal to tie Dartmouth and "win" the title outright. We had a chance to win outright but had already "coughed up the ball" in Philadelphia.

Should've played for the tie, I guess.

I'm still angry.