Cornell lacrosse 2023

Very difficult to play your very best lacrosse across multiple weeks, which Michigan has been doing. Like our chances.

semsox
Very difficult to play your very best lacrosse across multiple weeks, which Michigan has been doing. Like our chances.

Martha: Wear red. Please, not maize and blue.

CU77
My NCAA bracket prediction:

1. Duke v Delaware/Marist
2. Virginia v Richmond
3. Notre Dame v Bryant
4. Maryland v Utah
5. Penn State v Army
6. Hopkins v Princeton
7. Georgetown v Yale
8. Cornell v Michigan

Pretty close! Got the top 8 exactly right, shuffled the opponents of the 3 to 6 seeds:

1. Duke v Delaware/Marist Sun 5
2. Virginia v Richmond Sat 12
3. Notre Dame v Utah Sat 2:30
4. Maryland v Army Sat 7:30
5. Penn State v Princeton Sun 7:30
6. Hopkins v Bryant Sun 12
7. Georgetown v Yale Sat 5
8. Cornell v Michigan Sun 2:30

LGR.

billhoward

semsox
Very difficult to play your very best lacrosse across multiple weeks, which Michigan has been doing. Like our chances.

Martha: Wear red. Please, not maize and blue.

If she's a typical Michigander she only supports teams that are favorites.

cornell can not afford to be awful at the X again the rest of the way. Last week was bad FO, bad D, and no big plays from the goalie.. Thats a bad combo cme playoff time.

I continue to worry about the defense. I know they've kept teams under and around 10 all year, but all year we've seen so many basic mistakes that it's been frustrating. We don't help, esp. the shorties, and our slides and rotations are often slow and late. This really caught up with us in the Yale game. I mean, really caught up with us. Going to a zone felt a little like panic. Instead, maybe we should work on solid, communicating, fundamental lacrosse. We've been really good at times, and so I have hopes we can play better. But we're also capable of giving up tons of easy scores. I think we have to assume that everyone except Gavin Adler and maybe Jack Follows will be beat with a one-on-one. Let's get some help and force a pass at least, not a dodge and a score.

Also, on offense, we looked great when Mikey Long ran two (probably set) plays from the wing in the second quarter. Wow, if we could do that on each possession, we could do some damage.

Yale was an issue losing 60-70% of the draws and then allowing 4-5 goals off of that and then chasing to try and make up the big gap..

Adler first overall in PLL draft

chimpfood
Adler first overall in PLL draft

Well deserved!

mike1960

chimpfood
Adler first overall in PLL draft

Well deserved!

[video=

That feeling when your teammate is the first overall pick 👀

Gavin Adler goes #1 overall to the @PLLAtlas in the 2023 @PremierLacrosse draft#YellCornell pic.twitter.com/7ZjXpM8gNA

— Cornell Big Red (@CornellSports) May 9, 2023

][/video]

Swampy

mike1960

chimpfood
Adler first overall in PLL draft

Well deserved!

[video=

That feeling when your teammate is the first overall pick 👀

Gavin Adler goes #1 overall to the @PLLAtlas in the 2023 @PremierLacrosse draft#YellCornell pic.twitter.com/7ZjXpM8gNA

— Cornell Big Red (@CornellSports) May 9, 2023

][/video]

Very cool.

C.J. Kirst is a Tewaaraton finalist:

[www.insidelacrosse.com]

But not Gavin Adler, who should have been; all five finalists play attack.

CU77
C.J. Kirst is a Tewaaraton finalist:

[www.insidelacrosse.com]

But not Gavin Adler, who should have been; all five finalists play attack.

Yeah. It's time they stop pretending the Tewaarton is for the best player in college lacrosse. It's for the best offensive player. And, depending on the style of play currently in vogue, even just the best player at attack (as in this year).

I'm looking forward to watching the Georgetown-Yale game. It should be a good one. I saw Dordevic play against Providence. He's as good as advertised.

For lack of a better place, an aside:

My kids came home from pre-K telling us about this cartoon they watched in aftercare called "Spirit Rangers." It just came out last fall (Netflix) and is about 3 Indigenous American kids who have super-here alter egos as Spirit Animals. (The cast all appear to have indigenous names, incidentally) Just watched a couple of episodes with my kids including one called "Lacrosse Boss" in which the kids have to prepare the lacrosse field for a big tournament to be played later that day. After they prep the field, and play a "spirited" game with the Spirits, the first player gets off the bus for the tournament. The littlest kid's eyes get wide and she declares with surprise and delight, "It's Lyle Thompson!!!" He throws his ball at the camera and the scene goes to black.

Someone did their homework!

For lack of a better place, an aside:

My kids came home from pre-K telling us about this cartoon they watched in aftercare called "Spirit Rangers." It just came out last fall (Netflix) and is about 3 Indigenous American kids who have super-hero alter egos as Spirit Animals. (The cast all appear to have indigenous names, incidentally) Just watched a couple of episodes with my kids including one called "Lacrosse Boss" in which the kids have to prepare the lacrosse field for a big tournament to be played later that day. After they prep the field, and play a "spirited" game with the Spirits, the first player gets off the bus for the tournament. The littlest kid's eyes get wide and she declares with surprise and delight, "It's Lyle Thompson!!!" He throws his ball at the camera and the scene goes to black.

Someone did their homework!

Here's the defense I'd love to see in the next few weeks. I can't tell you how many times I've watched this. Milliman had the guys ready in the 2018 Yale ILT game.

[www.youtube.com]

Really good game between Georgetown and Yale. Could have gone either way.

mike1960
Really good game between Georgetown and Yale. Could have gone either way.

Transfer Portal 19, Yale 17

Army takes down the Terps, 16-15.

CU77
Army takes down the Terps, 16-15.

Wow.

Richie Moran's grandson, Ryan Sposito, scored 2 goals on 4 shots for Army.

Army should have gone to Hopkins, not Maryland. But the bus ride for Bryant to go to Maryland was seven miles longer than the 400-mile guideline, so Bryant and Army were flipped.

Al DeFlorio
Army should have gone to Hopkins, not Maryland. But the bus ride for Bryant to go to Maryland was seven miles longer than the 400-mile guideline, so Bryant and Army were flipped.

Now is where I admit I had no idea where Bryant was until today.

Now is where I admit I had no idea where Bryant was until today.

I just had this conversation with my co-workers. I had never heard of it, and tuition is $67k.

Trotsky

Now is where I admit I had no idea where Bryant was until today.

I just had this conversation with my co-workers. I had never heard of it, and tuition is $67k.

It's an expensive, "lightly" selective (~75% admitted), "liberal arts" college, mostly known for its business programs.

Swampy

Trotsky

Now is where I admit I had no idea where Bryant was until today.

I just had this conversation with my co-workers. I had never heard of it, and tuition is $67k.

It's an expensive, "lightly" selective (~75% admitted), "liberal arts" college, mostly known for its business programs.

So. Union.

BTW, TIL Bard has the third-most expensive tuition in the US. That is funny.

Oleanders growing outside her door / Soon they're gonna be in bloom up in Annandale

Trotsky

Swampy

Trotsky

Now is where I admit I had no idea where Bryant was until today.

I just had this conversation with my co-workers. I had never heard of it, and tuition is $67k.

It's an expensive, "lightly" selective (~75% admitted), "liberal arts" college, mostly known for its business programs.

So. Union.

Not exactly. E.g., Union accepts ~48% of applicants; Bryant, ~75%.

Swampy

Trotsky

Swampy

Trotsky

Now is where I admit I had no idea where Bryant was until today.

I just had this conversation with my co-workers. I had never heard of it, and tuition is $67k.

It's an expensive, "lightly" selective (~75% admitted), "liberal arts" college, mostly known for its business programs.

So. Union.

Not exactly. E.g., Union accepts ~48% of applicants; Bryant, ~75%.

SLU?

Trotsky
BTW, TIL Bard has the third-most expensive tuition in the US. That is funny.

Oleanders growing outside her door / Soon they're gonna be in bloom up in Annandale

Good song.

35 sweet goodbyes

Jeff Hopkins '82

Trotsky
BTW, TIL Bard has the third-most expensive tuition in the US. That is funny.

Oleanders growing outside her door / Soon they're gonna be in bloom up in Annandale

Good song.

35 sweet goodbyes

I only learned what that meant about a year ago.

But, I mean, the band's name...

Trotsky

Jeff Hopkins '82

Trotsky
BTW, TIL Bard has the third-most expensive tuition in the US. That is funny.

Oleanders growing outside her door / Soon they're gonna be in bloom up in Annandale

Good song.

35 sweet goodbyes

I only learned what that meant about a year ago.

But, I mean, the band's name...

So would you expect anything less?

Jeff Hopkins '82

Trotsky

Jeff Hopkins '82

Trotsky
BTW, TIL Bard has the third-most expensive tuition in the US. That is funny.

Oleanders growing outside her door / Soon they're gonna be in bloom up in Annandale

Good song.

35 sweet goodbyes

I only learned what that meant about a year ago.

But, I mean, the band's name...

So would you expect anything less?

Interesting talmudic discussion of "My Old School" here.

IIRC, in the late 1960s Tompkins County had a DA who was almost as big an asshole as G. Gordon Licky.

Trotsky

Swampy

Trotsky

Swampy

Trotsky

Now is where I admit I had no idea where Bryant was until today.

I just had this conversation with my co-workers. I had never heard of it, and tuition is $67k.

It's an expensive, "lightly" selective (~75% admitted), "liberal arts" college, mostly known for its business programs.

So. Union.

Not exactly. E.g., Union accepts ~48% of applicants; Bryant, ~75%.

SLU?

Even less. SLUt accepted 46.1% of applicants in 2018. Bryant's mean SAT score is mid-1200's, SLUt's is mid-1300's.

Swampy

Jeff Hopkins '82

Trotsky

Jeff Hopkins '82

Trotsky
BTW, TIL Bard has the third-most expensive tuition in the US. That is funny.

Oleanders growing outside her door / Soon they're gonna be in bloom up in Annandale

Good song.

35 sweet goodbyes

I only learned what that meant about a year ago.

But, I mean, the band's name...

So would you expect anything less?

Interesting talmudic discussion of "My Old School" here.

IIRC, in the late 1960s Tompkins County had a DA who was almost as big an asshole as G. Gordon Licky.

Richard D Thaler. [www.newspapers.com]

Political and judicial officials who are generations behind the gen pop and reacting with increasingly authoritarian violence to the change in society.

That doesn't ring a bell at all.

David Harding

Swampy

Jeff Hopkins '82

Trotsky

Jeff Hopkins '82

Trotsky
BTW, TIL Bard has the third-most expensive tuition in the US. That is funny.

Oleanders growing outside her door / Soon they're gonna be in bloom up in Annandale

Good song.

35 sweet goodbyes

I only learned what that meant about a year ago.

But, I mean, the band's name...

So would you expect anything less?

Interesting talmudic discussion of "My Old School" here.

IIRC, in the late 1960s Tompkins County had a DA who was almost as big an asshole as G. Gordon Licky.

Richard D Thaler. [www.newspapers.com]

Ah yes, I remember it well: "I am not yet convinced the Proctor is a horse's ass."

ITHACA, N.Y. -- Inside Lacrosse has announced its 2023 All-Americans, and CJ Kirst and Gavin Adler have been named to the first team. Adler is a two-time first-team honoree, and one of two first-team awardees to be a unanimous selection. Kirst, an honorable mention in 2022, was one of two athletes to miss unanimous selection to the first team by one vote.

Ken711

ITHACA, N.Y. -- Inside Lacrosse has announced its 2023 All-Americans, and CJ Kirst and Gavin Adler have been named to the first team. Adler is a two-time first-team honoree, and one of two first-team awardees to be a unanimous selection. Kirst, an honorable mention in 2022, was one of two athletes to miss unanimous selection to the first team by one vote.

And yet, Adler wasn’t a finalist for the Tewaaraton award.
.

George64

Ken711

ITHACA, N.Y. -- Inside Lacrosse has announced its 2023 All-Americans, and CJ Kirst and Gavin Adler have been named to the first team. Adler is a two-time first-team honoree, and one of two first-team awardees to be a unanimous selection. Kirst, an honorable mention in 2022, was one of two athletes to miss unanimous selection to the first team by one vote.

And yet, Adler wasn’t a finalist for the Tewaaraton award.
.

But second and third team attackmen were.

RichH
Now is where I admit I had no idea where Bryant was until today.

Firmly in the side of that mountain after the helicopter crash.













Too soon?

In my opinion for what its worth-my all time Cornell defensemen are: Adler, Chris Kane, and Aaron Jones in no particular order. Was disappointed in final outcome but it was a fun season. The Cornell defense overall was not sharp towards end of season starting with the Princeton game. Not enough of an expert to give a solid opinion why but noted in 4th quarter of Michigan game just could not get stops. Am wondering if the Bryant transfer Abladian will get a chance to start on Attack next season. On his limited appearances he displayed a pretty wicked outside shot.

French Rage

RichH
Now is where I admit I had no idea where Bryant was until today.

Firmly in the side of that mountain after the helicopter crash.


Too soon?

Not too soon in that there'd be no good time for that one--definitely in poor taste.

Trotsky

Now is where I admit I had no idea where Bryant was until today.

I just had this conversation with my co-workers. I had never heard of it, and tuition is $67k.

Bryant University (Bryant College until 2004) came to the attention of eLynah when when Mike Pressler transitioned from coach of the disgraced Duke lacrosse program to Bryant lacrosse coach (2007 til 2022). It used to be next door to Brown University, then in 1971 decamped to a 400-acre suburban location 15 miles away, the estate of the Tupperware founder, and sold the Providence land to Brown.

Academically, Bryant is – I forgot the [fill blank]-selective euphemism for 75% accept rate and an SAT range of 1100-1300 – a business school (four of every five students), with an arts & sciences college as well. Kind of like Quinnipiac with the suburban setting and attainable learning levels. Somebody said "like Union" but Union is pretty good in the scale of things. I wonder if any would-be undergrad business majors mistake Bryant for Bentley. Despite that, Bryant ranks #7 in US News Best Regional Universities North (along with #1 Providence, #2 Bentley, Marist, #11 Ithaca, LeMoyne, SUNY Geneseo, etcetera. It easier for US News to license a top-ten ranking, as a breakout category, than to rank it, say, #150 or #250 overall.

“Disgraced” Duke program? Maybe only in the press?

Redscore
“Disgraced” Duke program? Maybe only in the press?

It is a great irony that our thirdmost date-rapiest school (Dartmouth, Stanford) is infamous for an instance in which the otherwise date-rapey guys were entirely innocent.

Trotsky

Redscore
“Disgraced” Duke program? Maybe only in the press?

It is a great irony that our thirdmost date-rapiest school (Dartmouth, Stanford) is infamous for an instance in which the otherwise date-rapey guys were entirely innocent.

Entirely?

mike1960

Trotsky

Redscore
“Disgraced” Duke program? Maybe only in the press?

It is a great irony that our thirdmost date-rapiest school (Dartmouth, Stanford) is infamous for an instance in which the otherwise date-rapey guys were entirely innocent.

Entirely?

IIRC, they were straight set up.

I mean, douche wagon central for all those guys, but they managed to accuse them on the one weekend they weren't actually raping anyone. Just bad luck.

The Duke players had their rape charges dropped because the district attorney had acted unethically and was disbarred. The NC attorney general said the three accused lacrosse players were "innocent" and victims of a "tragic rush to accuse" [of those legal charges]. Which is different from the state of grace the Duke lacrosse program was not in circa 2005. There was reporting on a program that was not in control and incidents of bad behavior on the part of players. In April 2006, coach Mike Pressler was forced out (at the time, it was called a resignation) and, same day, Richard H. Brodhead, president of Duke University, suspended Duke lacrosse for the remainder of the 2006 season. It's possible Broadhead overreacted, but the local-national-media storm made his choice easier to understand. That's why I'd call the program of that era disgraced. I still bristle seeing Duke fan lax caps the next year or two with the words "INNOCENT." Of those charges, yes, but they did not seem to be gentlemen or worthy representatives of Duke.

The rape accuser, Crystal Magnum, is not doing well either: an arrest in 2010 for attempted murder of a boyfriend, a second arrest for murder of a 2011 boyfriend, now doing 14-18 years, likely release in 2026.

billhoward
The rape accuser, Crystal Magnum, is not doing well either: an arrest in 2010 for attempted murder of a boyfriend, a second arrest for murder of a 2011 boyfriend, now doing 14-18 years, likely release in 2026.

[getyarn.io]

billhoward
The rape accuser, Crystal Magnum, is not doing well either: an arrest in 2010 for attempted murder of a boyfriend, a second arrest for murder of a 2011 boyfriend, now doing 14-18 years, likely release in 2026.

Yes, Crystal does seem to be a little worse off than playing as the favorite in the national semi-finals.

marty

billhoward
The rape accuser, Crystal Magnum, is not doing well either: an arrest in 2010 for attempted murder of a boyfriend, a second arrest for murder of a 2011 boyfriend, now doing 14-18 years, likely release in 2026.

Yes, Crystal does seem to be a little worse off than playing as the favorite in the national semi-finals.

OTOH, Crystal will have harmed far fewer people in her life, and that's not even counting when they join Wall Street.

Rochester D&C article about Cornell grad Chase Ierlan.

George64
Rochester D&C article about Cornell grad Chase Ierlan.

People can mope all they want about in-game strategic decisions, but the single biggest problem Cornell faces is that other teams are allowed grad transfers while Cornell is not. We’d have had Donville last year, Irelan next year, etc. Instead, to win a championship, we need to beat teams like Maryland and Johns Hopkins who were able to add the Donvilles and the Irelans. I think Cornell will have a much better shot at a national title (in all sports) three years from now once the extra year of Covid eligibility is finally over.

Adler vs. Handley analysis (in case you haven't seen): [youtu.be]

Al DeFlorio
Adler vs. Handley analysis (in case you haven't seen): [youtu.be]

Thanks! Great video.