Cornell lacrosse 2023

upprdeck
Cornell men in for another crappy weather day tomorrow.

I recall (tho that doesn't mean it actually happened) a Cornell game at the Carrier Dome vs. host Hobart, and that a Binghamton game was played at some indoor facility in Binghamton.

National Weather Service as of Monday 2/27
Monday: Snow and sleet, becoming all snow after 3am. The snow could be heavy at times. Low around 31. Southeast wind 11 to 18 mph, with gusts as high as 31 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow and sleet accumulation of around 4 inches.
Tuesday: Snow likely, possibly mixed with rain before 1pm, then a slight chance of drizzle between 1pm and 2pm, then a slight chance of snow after 2pm. Cloudy, with a high near 39. South wind 15 to 17 mph becoming west in the afternoon. Winds could gust as high as 29 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%. New snow accumulation of less than one inch possible.

One more reason for a full-field practice-February games facility that holds 500-1000 fans. Saturday's Lehigh game attendance was reported at 312.

I'd really rather see a new domed stadium holding 20,000. At that point Cornell would probably see it moved off campus, too.

Cornell's first home game, as seen from the living room of my home on video, was disappointing. (Not the outcome and Cornell's almost three quarters of shutout defense.) Cornell and the Ivies should have increasing standards of acceptable quality compared to the sketchy early efforts of 15 years ago. Quality means connection quality (close to non-issue versus early days), video image quality & resolution, quality of the camera-crew and director/producer tracking play and picking the best angles, number of cameras, and announcer quality. For the most part, in the ESPN+ era, it's been better. Saturday, hosting Lehigh for lacrosse, the audio broadcast (i.e. our announcers) was very good (esp. compared to Yale's hockey duo). The Lehigh lax video, meh:

• The video was jerky, the ball went off camera or the center of action wasn't centered, then there was a sudden tug to recenter.
• Sometimes the video covered half the field (first photo). That's okay for game films where Coach wants to show the overall flow. I want to see the guy with the ball (and his defender) and then follow the action as the ball is passed and shot. Or flip back and forth.
• It was cold and we weren't prepared. It appeared the video was shot from behind a press box window. You saw reflections (second photo, I believe that's a reflection on the right side). The videographer's-photographer's comfort is not a concern. Let him or her dress warmly with multilayer gloves if need be. I've shot field sports on the sidelines in a snowstorm with the field obscured, temps in the teens, without heated gloves. I didn't retreat to a press box to be out of the wind. At the least, have Cornell's videographers work from one of the enclosed areas of the press box and just have the front glass open. Let the broadcast guys (announcers) have their separate, semi-heated booth with glass closed.

I think we're not that far from affordable, streaming-quality cameras that can be located in the open and have the videographer in a warmed part of the press box.

Maybe we can put a remote camera atop the press box at Lynah, next to the fixed camera that's used, or will be used, to verify offsides penalties, goals. The higher location will show more of the ice not hidden by the glass. This beyond the fixed cams directly over the goals. (Heck, we could mount remote cameras atop the scoreboard and on Schoellkopf House, a second videographer actively controls the one facing play and the other fixed, centered and ready.)

College game broadcasting is not just something to mollify old alums. It keeps happy the player parents who can't make it to every game and shows off Cornell to prospective recruits. Second-class negatively impacts the brand. I bet they teach that at the Dyson School. Maybe we recast our motto from "I found an institution ... " to "Das Beste Oder Nichts."

I watched the at-Yale hockey game a day late on account of a dinner party Saturday, and when I switched away from the ESPN+ webcast at game's end, I wound up shunted to the start of a Liberty University (Falwell U) home hockey. The broadcast quality was awesome. There was a camera in the tunnel to catch the players coming out and perhaps four more trained on the ice. The last time I was at Liberty's LaHaye Ice Center (our son was a student trainer getting clinical hours in; he was not matriculated there), there was also a camera on a boom outside the home team broadcast booth that the two announcer could talk into. If anybody knows good streaming video, it's the people who also bring Christ into your living room.

Polls 2/27 -- heady standing for Cornell with its two victories against two teams not ranked, but then we did play 40+ minutes of shutout ball vs. Lehigh. Not a good week for the other leading Ivies otherwise. Maryland beat Princeton 11-5, Penn State beat Yale 13-11, Duke beat Penn 14-12. Harvard did beat Bucknell 13-8. The only other unbeaten Ivy? Dartmouth, also 2-0.

Media Poll
1 Virginia
2 Notre Dame
3 Cornell was 4
4 Maryland was 9
5 Princeton was 3
Also: TOSU 8, Penn 10, Yale 13, Penn State 17, Syracuse 20, HM Harvard, Brown
Poll (always points to newest poll): [www.insidelacrosse.com]''

For contrast to our Lehigh stream, check out the ESPN+ archive of Maryland at Princeton on the same day. THAT'S the way you do it.

I saw most of those teams play at least a half on Saturday. Much as I love our team, we are way overrated at this point in the season. Maryland, Carolina and Duke are better right now.

yup, but they also have 2-3 more weeks of practice in already and some have played 4-5 games.

agree on all of your points. watched a chunk of the game live on my phone and thought the quality wasnt very good... assumed either ESPN themselves or my carrier was degrading because of bandwidth. watching the replay at home, obvious that the game isnt being captured in HD, which really is unacceptable

maybe saving camera money to bring back a radio feed ...

upprdeck
maybe saving camera money to bring back a radio feed ...

LOL- there's an interesting idea!
Agree with other posters that the video feed was, well... borderline awful.

Hearing Barry and Tom was great, though, and made up for the video.

looks like today being in Genava might be cold but missed most of the snow thats still coming down around here

Sat in OSU might be fun with the huge storm warnings out now. If they are driving out they may not make it

At least the bad quality of the last game is better than what you will have to pay to watch the OSU game on sat..

5-1 Cornell after one at Hobart

Hobart video is good, announcers are first-class. Could give the Syracuse Newhouse School a run for their money. Also, they're not homers: They talked about an "ill-advised [clearing] pass," dropped balls with no pressure, thought they saw Hobart goal out of the circle step back in (and not called) and other glitches. Good stuff.

Okay, one Hobart broadcast glitch: The scores band is way too big. At least it's at screen-bottom. ESPN (real ESPN) used to put the band at the top and it often blocked the guy feeding from the upper corner of the screen.

About 35 degrees in Geneva. There is no evidence of snow on the field although it's on the adjacent fields.

Cornell gave up the first goal, ran off 6, 6-1 early in the second period, Kirst with 3 goals. 7-1. 8-1 4 minutes into the second. Hobart gets it to 8-2 midway through the second, gets its first back to back goal pair 7 minutes in, then 3 in a row with 4:00 to halftime: 8-4. Cornell and Hobart (at 0.1?) trade goals in the last 10 seconds, halftime 9-5 Cornell, Kirst has 4G 3A. I still miss Pannell and Teat, but, sheesh, Kirst is putting up big numbers early this season.

Al DeFlorio
5-1 Cornell after one at Hobart

6-1 now but i'm only posting an udpate to post the stream [hwsathletics.com]

8-1 early 2nd

8-2 and Cornell now playing second string offense and defense

nshapiro
8-2 and Cornell now playing second string offense and defense

Too soon. Now 8-3 and Hobart ball.

stop them and lose the ball is not a good thing. thats hobarts game

8-4

9-5 halftime; last 10 minutes weak

mistake after mistake that last 10 min.

poor start to 2nd half; look disorganized; too many penalties

Winning faceoffs now, 14-6; Ierlan 12 saves

Ierlan has been great. And his outlet passes are fast and crisp.

15-6 after three

basically, allowed no goals in last 40 min sat and now allowed 2 goals in almost 45 min today..

We will see Sat if the D is real or the quality of opp is the reason.

upprdeck
mistake after mistake that last 10 min.

to be fair, not the starters

ugarte

upprdeck
mistake after mistake that last 10 min.

to be fair, not the starters

I was referring to the last 10 minutes of the first half; check the time stamp.

Al DeFlorio

ugarte

upprdeck
mistake after mistake that last 10 min.

to be fair, not the starters

I was referring to the last 10 minutes of the first half; check the time stamp.

For a good portion of that time there were many backups in there; I was surprised that we went to the bench that early.

scoop85

Al DeFlorio

ugarte

upprdeck
mistake after mistake that last 10 min.

to be fair, not the starters

I was referring to the last 10 minutes of the first half; check the time stamp.

For a good portion of that time there were many backups in there; I was surprised that we went to the bench that early.

Only briefly. Stopped that quickly. Starters back with 8:53 to go in the half.

Al DeFlorio

scoop85

Al DeFlorio

ugarte

upprdeck
mistake after mistake that last 10 min.

to be fair, not the starters

I was referring to the last 10 minutes of the first half; check the time stamp.

For a good portion of that time there were many backups in there; I was surprised that we went to the bench that early.

Only briefly. Stopped that quickly. Starters back with 8:53 to go in the half.

I didn’t realize it was such a short time. But it sure seemed to throw us off our game for awhile.

scoop85

Al DeFlorio

scoop85

Al DeFlorio

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upprdeck
mistake after mistake that last 10 min.

to be fair, not the starters

I was referring to the last 10 minutes of the first half; check the time stamp.

For a good portion of that time there were many backups in there; I was surprised that we went to the bench that early.

Only briefly. Stopped that quickly. Starters back with 8:53 to go in the half.

I didn’t realize it was such a short time. But it sure seemed to throw us off our game for awhile.

No questioning that. Premature move.

I'm encouraged to see Cornell (seemingly) improving with each game. Significant step up in competition this Saturday.

Ierlan's save percentage was over 72%; the Hobart goaltender was around 32%. Their D was a lot like Swiss cheese, giving us lots of opportunities in close.

scoop85

Al DeFlorio

scoop85

Al DeFlorio

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upprdeck
mistake after mistake that last 10 min.

to be fair, not the starters

I was referring to the last 10 minutes of the first half; check the time stamp.

For a good portion of that time there were many backups in there; I was surprised that we went to the bench that early.

Only briefly. Stopped that quickly. Starters back with 8:53 to go in the half.

I didn’t realize it was such a short time. But it sure seemed to throw us off our game for awhile.

yeah me either; i thought the kids got more run than that.

After the third, Hobart game: You can always find a couple stats that look good when you lose. In this case, when you win big:

Cornell is the blue-collar team of the Ivies (well, certainly not HYP). Ground balls are blue-collar. Versus Hobart, Cornell 44-20.

CJ Kirst went 7G 4A 11 points. 7 goals on 9 shots. Good enough. Extrapolate that for the regular season (um, yes, the competition gets tougher): 69-22-91.

Chase Ierlan was on fire: 7GA, 16SV, 70%SV%. He looked good.

Cornell goals allowed YTD by half: 16 vs. 7

Faceoffs have not been Cornell's forte since, ah, TD Ierlan decided to transfer from Albany to Yale-not-Cornell (and then Denver). At Hobart, we won 13 to Hobart's 15. Moral victory.

As of the start of this week, only four top 20 teams are unbeaten: 1. Maryland Virgina, 2. Notre Dame, 3. Cornell and 12 St. Joseph's. It still seems as if we have not been tested. TOSU and Penn State are up next. Those will be challenges. I wonder what will be the highest-rated team we play in 2023 ... an Ivy?

billhoward
After the third, Hobart game: You can always find a couple stats that look good when you lose. In this case, when you win big:

Cornell is the blue-collar team of the Ivies (well, certainly not HYP). Ground balls are blue-collar. Versus Hobart, Cornell 44-20.

CJ Kirst went 7G 4A 11 points. 7 goals on 9 shots. Good enough. Extrapolate that for the regular season (um, yes, the competition gets tougher): 69-22-91.

Chase Ierlan was on fire: 7GA, 16SV, 70%SV%. He looked good.

Cornell goals allowed YTD by half: 16 vs. 7

Faceoffs have not been Cornell's forte since, ah, TD Ierlan decided to transfer from Albany to Yale-not-Cornell (and then Denver). At Hobart, we won 13 to Hobart's 15. Moral victory.

As of the start of this week, only four top 20 teams are unbeaten: 1. Maryland, 2. Notre Dame, 3. Cornell and 12 St. Joseph's. It still seems as if we have not been tested. TOSU and Penn State are up next. Those will be challenges. I wonder what will be the highest-rated team we play in 2023 ... an Ivy?

1. Virginia

can we win enough faceoffs , the same story every year it seems.

upprdeck
can we win enough faceoffs , the same story every year it seems.

I was able to watch the game only after the half when Cornell pulled away, but I liked what I saw at faceoff with Coach Buczek rotating his FOGOs on the ball and in the wings. All three have opportunities to play and improve. I imagine one will emerge as the #1 as the season progresses, but in the meantime, competition is good.

Going in, #8 media / #9 coaches TOSU has played 4 games to Cornell's 3, not much of an advantage. Beat unranked Air Force and Cleveland State by 8 and 7, got by #12 UNC 8-5, got blown out by #1 Virginia 17-6. So it should be close. Does Ierlan bring his A-game, can we keep it close on faceoffs, will Ohio State try a clampdown on CJ Kirst as others did to Jeff Teat his last 2 years, will our defense be as good as it has every right to be?

Highlights from Hobart game: [youtu.be]

billhoward
will Ohio State try a clampdown on CJ Kirst as others did to Jeff Teat his last 2 years

CJ15 has 3 inches and 20 pounds on JT51 (if you believe the roster pages), and therefore is harder to shut off.

CJ also has a better head coach than JT did.

Al DeFlorio

billhoward
After the third, Hobart game: You can always find a couple stats that look good when you lose. In this case, when you win big:

Cornell is the blue-collar team of the Ivies (well, certainly not HYP). Ground balls are blue-collar. Versus Hobart, Cornell 44-20.

CJ Kirst went 7G 4A 11 points. 7 goals on 9 shots. Good enough. Extrapolate that for the regular season (um, yes, the competition gets tougher): 69-22-91.

Chase Ierlan was on fire: 7GA, 16SV, 70%SV%. He looked good.

Cornell goals allowed YTD by half: 16 vs. 7

Faceoffs have not been Cornell's forte since, ah, TD Ierlan decided to transfer from Albany to Yale-not-Cornell (and then Denver). At Hobart, we won 13 to Hobart's 15. Moral victory.

As of the start of this week, only four top 20 teams are unbeaten: 1. Maryland, 2. Notre Dame, 3. Cornell and 12 St. Joseph's. It still seems as if we have not been tested. TOSU and Penn State are up next. Those will be challenges. I wonder what will be the highest-rated team we play in 2023 ... an Ivy?

1. Virginia

+1

CU77

billhoward
will Ohio State try a clampdown on CJ Kirst as others did to Jeff Teat his last 2 years

CJ15 has 3 inches and 20 pounds on JT51 (if you believe the roster pages), and therefore is harder to shut off.

CJ also has a better head coach than JT did.

I also didn't like how Milliman handled the shut off. There were all kinds of ways to get the ball into Teat's stick -- off ball picks, V cuts, etc. Why allow the other team to take your best scorer (the best scorer in the college game) out of the mix to achieve a 5 on 5?

mike1960

CU77

billhoward
will Ohio State try a clampdown on CJ Kirst as others did to Jeff Teat his last 2 years

CJ15 has 3 inches and 20 pounds on JT51 (if you believe the roster pages), and therefore is harder to shut off.

CJ also has a better head coach than JT did.

I also didn't like how Milliman handled the shut off. There were all kinds of ways to get the ball into Teat's stick -- off ball picks, V cuts, etc. Why allow the other team to take your best scorer (the best scorer in the college game) out of the mix to achieve a 5 on 5?

DeLuca did the same when Pannell was shut off by Harvard in 2011. He'd stand alone in a corner of the field away from everyone. David Lau went 5 and 3 in a one-goal win.

mike1960

CU77

billhoward
will Ohio State try a clampdown on CJ Kirst as others did to Jeff Teat his last 2 years

CJ15 has 3 inches and 20 pounds on JT51 (if you believe the roster pages), and therefore is harder to shut off.

CJ also has a better head coach than JT did.

I also didn't like how Milliman handled the shut off. There were all kinds of ways to get the ball into Teat's stick -- off ball picks, V cuts, etc. Why allow the other team to take your best scorer (the best scorer in the college game) out of the mix to achieve a 5 on 5?

There's an obvious answer, although I agree with your analysis. The answer is the coach believes the remaining 5 players are better than the other team's remaining 5. It's sort of like Harvard hockey playing 3 v 3 in tied games. If the addition of the other team's best defender reduces your chance of scoring by 20% even with your best offensive player in the mix, then taking both of them out of the game might give you a better chance of scoring.

But, as I said, I don't think this sort of analysis applied to Teat in most instances, but Milliman apparently did.

Swampy

mike1960

CU77

billhoward
will Ohio State try a clampdown on CJ Kirst as others did to Jeff Teat his last 2 years

CJ15 has 3 inches and 20 pounds on JT51 (if you believe the roster pages), and therefore is harder to shut off.

CJ also has a better head coach than JT did.

I also didn't like how Milliman handled the shut off. There were all kinds of ways to get the ball into Teat's stick -- off ball picks, V cuts, etc. Why allow the other team to take your best scorer (the best scorer in the college game) out of the mix to achieve a 5 on 5?

There's an obvious answer, although I agree with your analysis. The answer is the coach believes the remaining 5 players are better than the other team's remaining 5. It's sort of like Harvard hockey playing 3 v 3 in tied games. If the addition of the other team's best defender reduces your chance of scoring by 20% even with your best offensive player in the mix, then taking both of them out of the game might give you a better chance of scoring.

But, as I said, I don't think this sort of analysis applied to Teat in most instances, but Milliman apparently did.

Maryland's Tillman realized that he didn't have to use his best defender to shut off Teat.

so b10+ is $10 for a single school 1 month pass.. I dont think there is any single game deal or way to get a credit if you cancel after the day..

upprdeck
so b10+ is $10 for a single school 1 month pass.. I dont think there is any single game deal or way to get a credit if you cancel after the day..

Any sense of how easy to cancel before a second month?

from what i have read there is a link on the page to cancel. I havent tried it.

upprdeck
from what i have read there is a link on the page to cancel. I havent tried it.

Thanks. Had s bad experience with Flo awhile ago and would rather not repeat it.

I have subscribed for a month and canceled with B10 successfully, I think for the Penn State women's hockey game last year.

Al DeFlorio

upprdeck
so b10+ is $10 for a single school 1 month pass.. I dont think there is any single game deal or way to get a credit if you cancel after the day..

Any sense of how easy to cancel before a second month?

It's not easy funding the Big10 especially defending all those lawsuits. If anybody deserves the money, it's them. Their needs only increase when the B1024 defends the eventual anti-trust lawsuit.

ECAC we get all the schools for $10 a month and we have no tv money really.. B10 has oooodles and cost you 2x3x as much.. And probably way more subscribers given the size of the schools.

Just hope the boys got an early bus ride and not leaving just now as the weather gets bad.

upprdeck
Just hope the boys got an early bus ride and not leaving just now as the weather gets bad.

3-1/2 hours Ithaca to State College, didn't they leave early afternoon Friday? Say 5 hours if it really sucks, that's still less than going to Dartmouth in perfect weather. In Williamsport, a bit past halfway to State College, the forecast says rain and at or above freezing, a "wintry mix" around 9 pm when they should be at the hotel.

Hopefully they don’t head to State College

CU2007
Hopefully they don’t head to State College

LOL! That would definitely be the scenic route to Columbus ...

6-hour bus ride? Doesn't sound like fun.

they pretty much had to drive thru it if they left anytime after lunch. might have been rain though and 60mph winds

CU2007
Hopefully they don’t head to State College

Fact checking is part of the fun here.

mike1960
6-hour bus ride? Doesn't sound like fun.

My mapping app says it’s over 7 hours.

6 hours is getting to Hanover or Allston with a stop, which they do often.

A few minutes with Coach Buczek about the team and the game against Ohio State. I wish we could get an update on Mikey Long tho.

[omny.fm]

Cornell     4  5  3  4  --  16
Ohio State  2  1  5  5  --  13 Final

Cornell dominated most stats except faceoffs. Shots C60-39, SOG 31-21. GBs, 36-31. TOs comitted, TOSU 20-12. Clears C21x22, TOS 20-23 (just 2x4 final period). FOs, TOSU 19-14. Cornell got 3 penalties, Ohio State 6. Ierlan's save % was .381 (8 sv of 21 shots, his percentage fell off in the second half), Ohio State .484 (15 sv of 31 shots)
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Bunch of posts being hit by both sides in the first half. TOSU winning more faceoffs.

Cornell up 6-3 midway through the second quarter. Only 2G (on 4 shots) for CJ Kirst. C'mon, man. 7-3 with 5 minutes in the half. This means we are really better ... or we're about to suffer something of a letdown in the second half. Either one can be Cornell's style.

Halftime Cornell 9, Ohio State 3
Kirst 3G 0A (5 shots), Coyle 2G 2A. Shots, Cornell 30-17 (on-goal, 17-8). Saves, Cornell 5, TOSU 8. Faceoffs, TOSU 10-4. Turnovers committed by TOSU 9, Cornell 4. Turnovers caused, Cornell 9-4. Those last 2 take a little off the sting of our early-season faceoff prowess.

Second half -- TOSU and Cornell trade early goals, so 10-4. Then 10-5, 11-5 and 12-5 (Wirtheim gets his first of the season). Goals by seven Cornell players. Billy Coyle has 3G 2A now. The one downside to our scoring so many goals is there's a faceoff right after. Cornell's SOG and FO-won total (19) are close to matching TOSU's (18). 5 goals for TOSU, 3 goals and a pipe for Cornell, third quarter ends 12-8 Cornell. A 4-goal lead entering the fourth quarter is not that much.

Fourth quarter -- Cornell needs a goal to stanch the Ohio State run. Done, Piatelli, 13-8, followed by a TOSU faceoff win on a Cornell violation. Goal by Kirst with 12-1/2 to play, 14-8 and Cornell wins the following faceoff. TOSU goal, 14-9. I'd love to see a real-time probabilities read on odds of winnng with a Cornell 5-goal lead nearing 10:00 to play. And another goal by Billy Coyle, 15-9, 10:42 left. TOSU scores with exactly 10:00 to play, 15-10, I like Cornell's chances as much or more than a couple years back when Cornell went up 5-2 on Wisconsin 3 minutes into the NCAA semis; I seem to be blocking the outcome.

Cornell and Ohio State trade goals, 16-11 with 9 minutes to play. Christ, Kirst hit the post, must be 3? 4? 5? pipes this game. 7:25 Cornell goes up for :60 on a slash, shot gets saved; damn, that would've been the dagger. Cornell loses the ball on a shot clock violation with 5:25 left, TOSU (thank you) fails on the clear, down to 5:00 to go. 4:30 left, Kirst shoots wide, again, and a third time all in 15 seconds, but down to 4:13. TOSU screws up the clear. Basics, lads, concentrate on GBs and clears. Down under 4:00. Just over 2:00, Cornell +5 still. 16-12 with 0:46 left, 16-13 with :30 left. From here, TOSU needs a field goal, and Cornell has the ball.

Final, 16-13 Cornell. Ohio State got lucky in Q4, or Cornell ran out of gas late, or just bounces of the ball. Still, a W.

Cornell seems to step it with their second half adjustments, especially on defense. Then again, they are up 9-3 at the half.

Thanks for the updates!

Excellent half. Our defense is outstanding. Adler is a monster

margolism
Cornell seems to step it with their second half adjustments, especially on defense. Then again, they are up 9-3 at the half.

I was reading, ah, I think it was about football halftime locker room coaching and inspiring and some players said, we got some water, went to the bathroom, went out and played the second half.

Big10 officiating feels a bit different
Lack of replays and some very strange calls

at 5-3, tOSU thought they had scored but the official apparently though it went off the corner instead of in and out
Cornell than ran off 4 unanswered, could have been very different if the goal was granted and we had been at 5-4 mid-2nd

Chase called for using his hand on the ball, did he think there was a restart and he put the ball in his stick? ball caught in gear?
Cornell defense forced turnover near crease, I thought dman was pushed in to our crease, officials gave ball to tOSU

anyways, glad to be up 9-3 at half =P

Seems like OSU gets every ground ball on faceoffs.

And Kelleher needs better shot choices.

OSU taking advantage of our O-middies having to play D.

At 12-6 Cornell, we can lose two-thirds of the FOs, pick up more GBs, trade them goal for goal, and finish the game with the score 18-12. But that's if, if and if.

2 and 27 caught on D again.

Not a good period giving up 5.

Didn't see but that's a really good win after a long bus ride in the winter. 60 shots to 39 on the stats! We're playing some defense out there.

Aiden Blake is missing all of his close in shots, Gimmees.

Cornell at Ohio State was doing all the blue-collar stuff good: GBs picked up, caused turnovers, clears. Also avoiding penalties. Except faceoffs.

One year Cornell will have a dominant FOGO and the next year the NCAA rule changes to, other team gets the ball after a goal.

Cascadden will be fine and gives us a chance on almost every draw

scoop85
Cascadden will be fine and gives us a chance on almost every draw

Agreed. And he's early in his career.

billhoward

scoop85
Cascadden will be fine and gives us a chance on almost every draw

Agreed. And he's early in his career.

By May we may be thinking of Face-offs a strength.

MD-ND in 3rd Ot

the one thing today was that the FO game was really a staleement much of the time and few breakout goals.

upprdeck
the one thing today was that the FO game was really a staleement much of the time and few breakout goals.

Most resulted in 50-50 ground balls.

Interesting, CJ Kirst is usually pretty accurate at shooting. Today, 4x14. For the season's first four games, 20x50, .400. Ohio State-game stats below. But he also has more than a third of Cornell's goals, 20 in four games.

Al DeFlorio
MD-ND in 3rd Ot

Notre Dame, 13-12, in the third overtime. Not sure who I wanted to win. Other than the voters are probably dying for a reason to vote the Terps above Cornell. Announced attendance at Maryland, 6,001.

I watched most of the Md-ND game. Both teams are, IMO, playing on a noticably higher level than Cornell.

billhoward

Al DeFlorio
MD-ND in 3rd Ot

Notre Dame, 13-12, in the third overtime. Not sure who I wanted to win. Other than the voters are probably dying for a reason to vote the Terps above Cornell. Announced attendance at Maryland, 6,001.

All shall be resolved in May.

mike1960
All shall be resolved in May.

The way you post, it sounds almost biblical.

mike1960

billhoward

Al DeFlorio
MD-ND in 3rd Ot

Notre Dame, 13-12, in the third overtime. Not sure who I wanted to win. Other than the voters are probably dying for a reason to vote the Terps above Cornell. Announced attendance at Maryland, 6,001.

All shall be resolved in May.

There's a podcast called "The Crease Dive," Two guys perform on it. In their episode for last Thursday (I think it was then: S6E6) they were positively jubilant Ivy teams lost. The began by saying six Ivies had lost, but only talked about the three that actually lost. Even so, when they corrected themselves: seven Ivies play lacrosse, they said they didn't consider Dartmouth. They never mentioned any of the games Ivy teams won. They also never mentioned that these were the first games the Ivies played in 2023, with most of their opponents having 2 or even three games under their belts, plus a whole extra month of team practice.

And once they got past their celebration of Ivy losses, they had serial orgasms discussing Notre Dame. One would think the Kavanaghs were the second coming of the Gate brothers.

After wasting my time on this trash, I wanted nothing more than for Notre Dame to lose. I also felt the respect Tillman and Donville paid to Cornell last May deserved some reciprocation, not to mention that Tillman's Cornell '91.

Swampy
After wasting my time on this trash, I wanted nothing more than for Notre Dame to lose.

*That's* what it took for you to root against ND?

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Swampy
After wasting my time on this trash, I wanted nothing more than for Notre Dame to lose.

*That's* what it took for you to root against ND?

No. They had me at Amy Coney Barrett.

They had me at 2010.

Highlights of the win at Columbus. It looks like the offense is really improving -- lots of good ball movement and guys getting open off the ball.

Can anyone tell if it's a pass or a shot at 1:55 in the 3rd quarter? It hits our guy in the helmet.

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mike1960
Can anyone tell if it's a pass or a shot at 1:55 in the 3rd quarter? It hits our guy in the helmet.
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Assassination attempt?

Lacrosse polls after the fourth game of the season (for many teams; 5 for Maryland, Loyola, Rutgers, Penn State, TOSU, 6 for Hopkins). Top four are the same: Virginia, Notre Dame, Cornell -- the only unbeatens -- and Maryland. Cornell is now over 400 points in the media poll; Virginia has 456 and 19 of 23 first place votes. No first place votes for Cornell.

The other Ivies are outside the top ten: Yale 11 was 13, Princeton 14 was 5, Penn 15 was 10. In the also-rans of teams receiving votes, Syracuse lands there along with BU, Harvard, Brown, Dartmouth. But none of the Yale, Princeton, Penn games will be gimmes.

[www.insidelacrosse.com]

Unbeaten Dartmouth still outside the top 20.

I’m assuming no updates on Long. In some ways it bodes well that we are playing well while missing a key player. What improvements do you expect from the team once he’s back and hopefully playing at 100%?

I wonder if he is in active directory and taking classes? That might tell us something, If he was out for the yr he might bail so he could come back.

Guess we have no spies watching practice.

upprdeck
I wonder if he is in active directory and taking classes? That might tell us something, If he was out for the yr he might bail so he could come back.

Guess we have no spies watching practice.

Long will be back this year.

srg1
Unbeaten Dartmouth still outside the top 20.

Big Green have wins of 1, 3, 4 and 11 (over 0-6 Holy Cross). This Saturday, at North Carolina.

scoop85
Long will be back this year.

Good to know! But I hope it's sooner than Aiden Blake came back last year ...

Weather forecast has improved from snow during the game to 1-3 inches of snow Friday night with Saturday temps peaking at 33 degrees. Saturday 12 noon, at Schoellkopf.

Thank goodness former Cornell current Penn State coach Jeff Tambroni got his 100th PSU win last week vs. Penn, else it'd be the pregame storyline on every lax site thinking that's the obvious pre-game lede that no one else will use.

Nice that one trip to Ithaca for the weekend nets us two hockey games -- two! two! not three -- and a lacrosse game. My warmest parka is blue so I gotta find a red slicker to wear over it. Memo to self: pack the chemical warming packets for the gloves.