Cornell lacrosse 2022

ugarte
post the @#$*&#$ score you lunatics!

Have you heard of livestats?

Five teams at 3-2 tied at the top of Ivy lacrosse. If Penn beats Dartmouth today (ahead 5-1 after one), they finish 3-3. Brown hosts Dartmouth next week, and a win makes them 4-2. Harvard-Yale winner and Cornell-Princeton winner finish 4-2. Losers finish 3-3 causing three-way tie for the fourth ILT slot with, likely, Penn.

Al DeFlorio

ugarte
post the @#$*&#$ score you lunatics!

Have you heard of livestats?

of course, al, but this isn't a chat room where everyone is watching the game and talking about it. it's a forum where visitors to the site see that there are new posts and when you see "11 new posts" and not one of them contains a score or a timestamp it makes you wonder if everyone else is using a computer for the first time.

ugarte

Al DeFlorio

ugarte
post the @#$*&#$ score you lunatics!

Have you heard of livestats?

of course, al, but this isn't a chat room where everyone is watching the game and talking about it. it's a forum where visitors to the site see that there are new posts and when you see "11 new posts" and not one of them contains a score or a timestamp it makes you wonder if everyone else is using a computer for the first time.

If I can remember, I'll post scores next time when Cornell beats Princeton.

If Penn beats Dart its a 6 way tie

Cornell loses next week and it will be a 3 way tie for 4th penn/cornell and yale-harv loser they would have split the series between the 3. so what is the tie breaker after that?

very good chance a 10 win season ends with no ivy or Ncaa birth now.. RPI wins to save them?

Cornell still hasn't come down from that high they had beating Syracuse.

The team this year is thin on depth when it comes to scoring. Outside of Kirst and Piatelli there does not seem to be consistent scoring threats coming from elsewhere on the team lately. Ierlan played well enough but lack of support on defense is telling when Brown's offensive players consistently found time and room to shoot similar to last week's game against Army. Thought close defense was a strength but also realize Jacobs is out and was playing hurt in prior games.

Here are the ILT scenarios, assuming I've correctly interpreted the tie-breaking rules:

B>D,Y>H,Pr>C: Pr,B,Y,Pe
B>D,Y>H,C>Pr: B,C,Y,H
B>D,H>Y,Pr>C: H,Pr,B,Pe
B>D,H>Y,C>Pr: C,H,B,Y

D>B,Y>H,Pr>C: Y,Pr,B,Pe
D>B,Y>H,C>Pr: C,Y,H,Pr
D>B,H>Y,Pr>C: H,Pr,B,Pe
D>B,H>Y,C>Pr: C,H,B,Y

Bottom line: Cornell is in with a win over Princeton, out with a loss.

ugarte

Al DeFlorio

ugarte
post the @#$*&#$ score you lunatics!

Have you heard of livestats?

of course, al, but this isn't a chat room where everyone is watching the game and talking about it. it's a forum where visitors to the site see that there are new posts and when you see "11 new posts" and not one of them contains a score or a timestamp it makes you wonder if everyone else is using a computer for the first time.

Just keep a browser tab open to livestats.

upprdeck
If Penn beats Dart its a 6 way tie

Penn's 3-3, so not tied. They'll tie for fourth with the Y-H and C-Pr losers. Also Btown if Dartmouth finally gets an unlikely Ivy win next week.

mike1960
We need to get out on the shooters. Brown is certainly getting out on our shooters.

The cutter needs to catch and shoot or quick stick. There's no time to cradle. They'll get swarmed by the defense.

We’re being hurt by our lack of balance and outside shooting. When one player gets 5 of 8 goals, it’s easy for the other team’s defense to clog the middle. Also, Petrakis and his wings were much better this game, but when Brown won faceoffs, they initiated a fast break. How many times did Brown score for Cornell to learn that during a fast break you don’t leave the opposing team’s sniper unmarked and the closest player to the goal?

Sad news: per a knowledgable Cornell poster on the fanlax board, Cornell's legendary lax coach Richie Moran has passed away.

CU77
Sad news: per a knowledgable Cornell poster on the fanlax board, Cornell's legendary lax coach Richie Moran has passed away.

Confirmed by Cornell Athletics.

ahh the days when he used to by the rounds at happy hours downtown like at Plums and such..

Richie ranks at the top of the pantheon of Cornell coaches, along with Ned. I was in school during that incredible run from 1975-78, when we used to get more than 10,000 fans at lacrosse games at Schoellkopf and the team got written up in Sports Illustrated. I may have missed out on the glory days of the men's hockey team, but at least I was there for the glory days of lacrosse.

Lacrosse lost a great one today. I met him only once. He saw a guy on our club team holding a woodie and stopped to say a few kind words. You don't ever forget moments like those.

Week 11 of polls: Cornell falls six spots from #8 to #14 after loss to Brown. Six Ivies in the top 15. Only Dartmouth on the outside.

Media poll 4/25/22
 1.  Maryland 12-0 only unbeaten team 
 2.  Georgetown 
 3.  Rutgers +2 positions (beat PSU 15-14)
 4.  Virginia 
 5.  Brown +9 positions
 6.  Notre Dame
 7.  Princeton -3 lost to Harvard 
 8.  Jacksonville 
 9.  Yale +1
10.  Ohio State 
11.  Duke 
12.  Harvard +5 
13.  Penn unchanged
14.  Cornell -6
15.  BU 
16.  Army
17.  Richmond 
18.  Denver
19.  NC
20.  St. Joseph's

RPI is kinder to Cornell. And the Ivy League. We are 2-4-5-8-9-11.
NCAA site RPI rankings:

 1. Maryland
 2. Princeton
 3. Georgetown
 4. Yale 
 5. Penn
 6. Rutgers
 7. Virginia
 8. Brown
 9. Cornell
10. Duke
11. Harvard
12. BU
13. TOSU
14. ND
15. Denver
16. Richmond
17. NC
18. St. Joe
19. Hopkins
20. Utah

Jacksonville, 8 in the polls, is 23 in RPI.

PWR killed hockey, but its sort of equivalent is helping lacrosse.

arugula
PWR killed hockey, but its sort of equivalent is helping lacrosse.

Winning four of four one-goal games was helping us a lot, too. I had to go back to the season's-game page to recall how many it was. What also jumped out at me was: Cornell 17, Harvard 9. Harvard two weeks later beats Princeton by 3, and now we play Princeton.

arugula
PWR killed hockey

It did?

yes it did. While the record was as good as some teams, the poor sos and the resulting low PWR doomed the season.

I don't have any fond recollections of Cornell benefiting from the 'smoke filled room' methodology before PWR

nshapiro
I don't have any fond recollections of Cornell benefiting from the 'smoke filled room' methodology before PWR

Touché.

Lacrosse had amazing success on the field but not among the lacrosse title voters in the late 1960s.

Year   Cornell (notes)           College champion          Chosen 
1966  12-0 Harkness' 1st year    Navy                      Poll
1967  11-1                       Maryland, Navy, Hopkins   Poll
1968  12-0                       Hopkins                   Poll 
1969   8-3 Moran's 1st year      Army, Hopkins             Poll 
1970  11-0                       Hopkins, Navy, Virginia   Poll
1971  13-1                       Cornell                   Tournament

billhoward

nshapiro
I don't have any fond recollections of Cornell benefiting from the 'smoke filled room' methodology before PWR

Touché.

Lacrosse had amazing success on the field but not among the lacrosse title voters in the late 1960s.

Year   Cornell (notes)           College champion          Chosen 
1966  12-0 Harkness' 1st year    Navy                      Poll
1967  11-1                       Maryland, Navy, Hopkins   Poll
1968  12-0                       Hopkins                   Poll 
1969   8-3 Moran's 1st year      Army, Hopkins             Poll 
1970  11-0                       Hopkins, Navy, Virginia   Poll
1971  13-1                       Cornell                   Tournament

Wow! Maybe someone should write a book about that (smoke filled room, and so on).

Richie Moran was amazing. (Probably the only time anyone used Richard was his christening, wedding and now.) A Maryland grad, he turned the tables on southern lacrosse supremacy with that 1971 championship (over Maryland) and two more in the next six years (1976 over Maryland with a 16-13 OT victory (see why first-goal wins in OT isn't such a good idea?)).

He also made the title game three more times, including 1987 and 1988 (1988, beat Brown in OT the final RS game to go to 6-5 and make the tournament, won at UMass and North Carolina, clobbered Virginia in the semis before losing to Syracuse in the finals). He coached nine more years but only one NCAA invite and there were four seasons with four wins or less. Richie left after the 1997 season but he didn't go away, didn't sulk. He was active as a supporter without trying to be the shadow coach. I recall him consoling a couple players on the field after losing to Maryland in the tournament a couple years back. I ran into Richie 4, 5 years ago on Marco Island in the winter, he was cheerful as ever, as outgoing as ever, and he remembered who I was, even though the relationship was the Cornell Sun, not as a player.

As it turns out, 1970 was Cornell's last hockey championship, and those three lacrosse titles in the followng seven years eased the pain. Some.

Pardon me if you're class of '00 or younger and think, HUGARA (who gives ....). If you're old, it's fun to reminisce. I realize if someone told me auld lang syne stories when I was undergrad, they would have been harking back to the 1920s. Like when Schoellkopf field was brand new. I'm old enough to remember when Marinaro's jersey in the display case was bright red, not the pinkish-red it is today.

billhoward
Pardon me if you're class of '00 or younger and think, HUGARA (who gives ....).

I don't think anybody is like that when it comes to our golden years, in lax or hockey. I remember being really turned on as an undergrad by the Harkness stories (which had the same relation to me as 2011 does to current freshmen... good god!).

Trotsky

billhoward
Pardon me if you're class of '00 or younger and think, HUGARA (who gives ....).

I don't think anybody is like that when it comes to our golden years, in lax or hockey. I remember being really turned on as an undergrad by the Harkness stories (which had the same relation to me as 2011 does to current freshmen... good god!).

Anyone out there who can tell us about Pop Warner?

Win or go home.

Two starting D, Doria & Jacobs, not playing ...

4-3 C, mid-1st

Cornell looks sharp today. I really like that they aren't passing around and running down the shot clock. They are shooting early and often.

Princeton is doing a nice job finding the open man after the slide.

AP is solid so far at the X, and good wing play to boot.

8-4 Cornell, 1st quarter.

CU77
Two starting D, Doria & Jacobs, not playing ...

Gonna need a lotta goals to win.

Al DeFlorio

CU77
Two starting D, Doria & Jacobs, not playing ...

Gonna need a lotta goals to win.

First five minutes had the feel of a game that would be a race to 20.

Chris '03

Al DeFlorio

CU77
Two starting D, Doria & Jacobs, not playing ...

Gonna need a lotta goals to win.

First five minutes had the feel of a game that would be a race to 20.

Cornell is playing excellent defense. They are knocking down the passes and getting most of the ground balls. Princeton is oddly not shooting from outside. That's how Syracuse, Army, and Brown had success against us. Part of the reason may be that we're getting on the shooters with a double team.

12-5 Cornell at the half, Ugarte.

Cornell is playing with urgency. Loud Cornell crowd is not hurting. Feels like a Cornell home game.

We need to get out on those shooters. No free hands.

Need to keep scoring. 14 unlikely enough to win.

How have we been beat this year? 1) Faceoffs 2) Ground balls 3) Outside shots.

Princeton did all that too us in the third quarter.

We're also stopped shooting early in the clock, maybe because of the lead. The offense needs to get aggressive again.

Adler is a man among boys.

Fantastic effort by a team depleted by injuries. Can't say enough.

Great win. 2022 Ivy League Lacrosse Champions!

The score update, for which I was grateful, gave me the courage to turn it on for the second half, and, well, that turned out didn't it? Whew!

Looks like we get Yale in first round regardless of who wins Y-H. Unless D upsets B and Y beats H.

Cornell hosts ILT if H wins.

Penn and Princeton out of ILT unless D rallies big. RPI should get both in NCAAs.

Brown leads Dartmouth 12-3 in the 4th.

Correct ILT scenarios, straight from the Ivy League office:

If Brown beats Dartmouth, Harvard beats Yale and Cornell beats Princeton:
No. 1 Brown, No. 2 Cornell, No. 3 Harvard, No. 4 Yale

If Brown beats Dartmouth, Yale beats Harvard and Cornell beats Princeton:
No. 1 Brown, No. 2 Cornell, No. 3 Yale, No. 4 Penn

[ivyleague.com]

CU77
Brown leads Dartmouth 12-3 in the 4th.

Correct ILT scenarios, straight from the Ivy League office:

If Brown beats Dartmouth, Harvard beats Yale and Cornell beats Princeton:
No. 1 Brown, No. 2 Cornell, No. 3 Harvard, No. 4 Yale

If Brown beats Dartmouth, Yale beats Harvard and Cornell beats Princeton:
No. 1 Brown, No. 2 Cornell, No. 3 Yale, No. 4 Harvard

Oops. Guess we're all going to Brown. Surprising H is 3-seed if they win today, given their win over Brown. Goal difference among top 3, maybe? Dislike goal difference.

Yes, goal difference. Top 3 in this scenario (B,C,H) are all 4-2, and all 1-0 against Y, the highest team outside the tie. Next tie-breaker is goal differential (and NOT record against the next highest team outside the tie, which I had been told a few years back was the case).

thanks all! huge w.

This whole playoff seeding situation is quite confusing. I went to the Yale-Harvard game today, not sure which team I should (reluctantly) root for. As it turned out, it didn't make a difference, since Cornell and Yale were locked in as semifinal opponents. In any case, it was a great game. Harvard fell behind 3-0 right off the bat, but stormed back, and even scored with 0.6 seconds left in the first half. Harvard's goalie injured his knee/leg sprawling to keep a pass from going out of bounds and had to leave the game midway through the third quarter. The backup goalie, who had only played a few minutes in one game all season, had to finish the game, and handled himself well. Harvard had the last possession in regulation and the first possession in OT, but couldn't score either time. In any case, it should be a good game on Friday and hopefully we'll be able to hold our own on faceoffs.

Are we likely to get an at large with a loss Friday? What about a win Friday and a loss Sunday?

going into the game Princ was #2 in rpi so the win helped

Harv/BU lost so that helped.

I think Its 100% we are in with a win and almost 100% with a loss.

brown/cornell/prin/yale are all in..

what do they do with Penn who has a crazy high rpi and didnt make the IVY tourney and Harvard probably falls out even if they have a top 15 RPI

upprdeck
going into the game Princ was #2 in rpi so the win helped

Harv/BU lost so that helped.

I think Its 100% we are in with a win and almost 100% with a loss.

brown/cornell/prin/yale are all in..

what do they do with Penn who has a crazy high rpi and didnt make the IVY tourney and Harvard probably falls out even if they have a top 15 RPI

Contrary to some of the scenarios posted here and on fanlax, Penn is the 4-seed over Harvard. Fooled me, too.

Al DeFlorio

upprdeck
going into the game Princ was #2 in rpi so the win helped

Harv/BU lost so that helped.

I think Its 100% we are in with a win and almost 100% with a loss.

brown/cornell/prin/yale are all in..

what do they do with Penn who has a crazy high rpi and didnt make the IVY tourney and Harvard probably falls out even if they have a top 15 RPI

Contrary to some of the scenarios posted here and on fanlax, Penn is the 4-seed over Harvard. Fooled me, too.

Yep.

Cornell v Yale at 6 PM Friday

Brown v Penn at 8 PM

Jeff Hopkins '82

Al DeFlorio

upprdeck
going into the game Princ was #2 in rpi so the win helped

Harv/BU lost so that helped.

I think Its 100% we are in with a win and almost 100% with a loss.

brown/cornell/prin/yale are all in..

what do they do with Penn who has a crazy high rpi and didnt make the IVY tourney and Harvard probably falls out even if they have a top 15 RPI

Contrary to some of the scenarios posted here and on fanlax, Penn is the 4-seed over Harvard. Fooled me, too.

Yep.

Cornell v Yale at 6 PM Friday

Brown v Penn at 8 PM

'Supposed to rain Friday evening in Providence. Be prepared!

Swampy

Jeff Hopkins '82

Al DeFlorio

upprdeck
going into the game Princ was #2 in rpi so the win helped

Harv/BU lost so that helped.

I think Its 100% we are in with a win and almost 100% with a loss.

brown/cornell/prin/yale are all in..

what do they do with Penn who has a crazy high rpi and didnt make the IVY tourney and Harvard probably falls out even if they have a top 15 RPI

Contrary to some of the scenarios posted here and on fanlax, Penn is the 4-seed over Harvard. Fooled me, too.

Yep.

Cornell v Yale at 6 PM Friday

Brown v Penn at 8 PM

'Supposed to rain Friday evening in Providence. Be prepared!

Does anyone know if the field is natural or artificial?

Thanks.

Cornell back in the top ten in the final poll before league playoffs begin.

Media Poll 5/2/22
 1. Maryland (#1 every week except pre-season) 
 2. Georgetown
 3. Virginia 
 4. Rutgers 
 5. Brown  unchanged
 6. Yale   +3 positions
 7. Notre Dame 
 8. Cornell +6
 9. Princeton -2
 9. Jacksonville (tie)
11. TOSU
12. Duke
13. Penn unchanged 
14. Army 
15. Harvard -3
16. BU 
17. Richmond
18. Denver
19. UNC
20. St. Joseph's

RPI has it

 2. Princeton
 4. Penn
 5. Yale
 7. Cornell
 9. Brown 
12. Harvard 
31. Dartmouth 

Artificial turf for the lax tournament. Also: Seats 3,500 -- could that be a problem? Although Cornell at Princeton only drew 2,011 fans Saturday at a 4,000-seat stadium that has been filled in earlier years.

Brown PR
Stevenson-Pincince Field, named after longtime men's soccer and men's lacrosse coach Cliff Stevenson and longtime women's soccer and softball coach Phil Pincince, is home to the Brown soccer and lacrosse teams.

Stevenson-Pincince Field has a capacity of 3,500 spectators and has hosted many events throughout the years, including several NCAA tournament games in both soccer and lacrosse.

In February 2020, Brown completed the Center for Lacrosse and Soccer. The new structure includes coaches offices, player locker rooms, a video/media space, press box, permanent grandstands, concessions, and a function space.
[brownbears.com]

Swampy

Jeff Hopkins '82

Al DeFlorio

upprdeck
going into the game Princ was #2 in rpi so the win helped

Harv/BU lost so that helped.

I think Its 100% we are in with a win and almost 100% with a loss.

brown/cornell/prin/yale are all in..

what do they do with Penn who has a crazy high rpi and didnt make the IVY tourney and Harvard probably falls out even if they have a top 15 RPI

Contrary to some of the scenarios posted here and on fanlax, Penn is the 4-seed over Harvard. Fooled me, too.

Yep.

Cornell v Yale at 6 PM Friday

Brown v Penn at 8 PM

'Supposed to rain Friday evening in Providence. Be prepared!

Cornell weather?

billhoward
Artificial turf for the lax tournament. Also: Seats 3,500 -- could that be a problem? Although Cornell at Princeton only drew 2,011 fans Saturday at a 4,000-seat stadium that has been filled in earlier years.

Much prefer an artificial field. A muddy track can be a leveler, and I think we're a better team than Yale.

Al DeFlorio

Swampy

Jeff Hopkins '82

Al DeFlorio

upprdeck
going into the game Princ was #2 in rpi so the win helped

Harv/BU lost so that helped.

I think Its 100% we are in with a win and almost 100% with a loss.

brown/cornell/prin/yale are all in..

what do they do with Penn who has a crazy high rpi and didnt make the IVY tourney and Harvard probably falls out even if they have a top 15 RPI

Contrary to some of the scenarios posted here and on fanlax, Penn is the 4-seed over Harvard. Fooled me, too.

Yep.

Cornell v Yale at 6 PM Friday

Brown v Penn at 8 PM

'Supposed to rain Friday evening in Providence. Be prepared!

Cornell weather?

May 6th? Snow or GTFO.

mike1960

billhoward
Artificial turf for the lax tournament. Also: Seats 3,500 -- could that be a problem? Although Cornell at Princeton only drew 2,011 fans Saturday at a 4,000-seat stadium that has been filled in earlier years.

Much prefer an artificial field. A muddy track can be a leveler, and I think we're a better team than Yale.

I saw Yale live at field level vs Harvard. They a they are BIG. And fast. Superior coaching, defense always where they're supposed to be. Sorry man. You're dreaming. We could win, But no bet from me.

TimV

mike1960

billhoward
Artificial turf for the lax tournament. Also: Seats 3,500 -- could that be a problem? Although Cornell at Princeton only drew 2,011 fans Saturday at a 4,000-seat stadium that has been filled in earlier years.

Much prefer an artificial field. A muddy track can be a leveler, and I think we're a better team than Yale.

I saw Yale live at field level vs Harvard. They a they are BIG. And fast. Superior coaching, defense always where they're supposed to be. Sorry man. You're dreaming. We could win, But no bet from me.

Cornell already beat them once. They can certainly do it again. Yale is big and physical. In the last game, they simply ran over Cornell players two or three times. But lacrosse rewards physical strength only to a point (and maybe more so on a muddy game). Small and quick can also score a lot of goals. Jeff Teat is not a large player, and he is one of the best ever to play.

mike1960

TimV

mike1960

billhoward
Artificial turf for the lax tournament. Also: Seats 3,500 -- could that be a problem? Although Cornell at Princeton only drew 2,011 fans Saturday at a 4,000-seat stadium that has been filled in earlier years.

Much prefer an artificial field. A muddy track can be a leveler, and I think we're a better team than Yale.

I saw Yale live at field level vs Harvard. They a they are BIG. And fast. Superior coaching, defense always where they're supposed to be. Sorry man. You're dreaming. We could win, But no bet from me.

Cornell already beat them once. They can certainly do it again. Yale is big and physical. In the last game, they simply ran over Cornell players two or three times. But lacrosse rewards physical strength only to a point (and maybe more so on a muddy game). Small and quick can also score a lot of goals. Jeff Teat is not a large player, and he is one of the best ever to play.

Harvard put up a bunch on 'em.

Ivy League 2022 Lacrosse Tournament
#2 (seed) Cornell vs. #3 Yale 6 pm EDT Friday 5/6
#1 Brown vs. #4 Penn 8:30
Championship, Sunday 12 noon (no consolation game)
At Brown, Stevenson-Pincince Field (Erickson Athletic Complex, 235 Hope St, Providence, RI 02906), capacity 3,500
ESPN-U and apparently ESPN+.

Predictions:

Michael Tenant, Lax All Stars
Ivy League
Winner: Cornell
The Ivy League has been an extremely fun and competitive conference to watch this year whether they are playing in or out of conference. Despite Cornell’s most recent two goal [sic] skid, they are extremely well rounded and talented across the field. This Cornell team is not unfamiliar with success and should have the leadership to bounce back from these late season hiccups and win the conference tournament.
Underdog: Brown
[Late season wins bring] confidence along with an anchor [more like a form-fitting plug, if you've seen Theriault, 5-foot-7, 210 pounds, in profile –ed] in the net .. exactly what is needed to propel Brown to a lacrosse conference tournament championship this year. [laxallstars.com]

mike1960

billhoward
Artificial turf for the lax tournament. Also: Seats 3,500 -- could that be a problem? Although Cornell at Princeton only drew 2,011 fans Saturday at a 4,000-seat stadium that has been filled in earlier years.

Much prefer an artificial field. A muddy track can be a leveler, and I think we're a better team than Yale.

Brown's lacrosse stadium has an artificial turf surface. There is no rain forecasted for Friday anyway, according to the latest weather report.

Ken711

mike1960

billhoward
Artificial turf for the lax tournament. Also: Seats 3,500 -- could that be a problem? Although Cornell at Princeton only drew 2,011 fans Saturday at a 4,000-seat stadium that has been filled in earlier years.

Much prefer an artificial field. A muddy track can be a leveler, and I think we're a better team than Yale.

Brown's lacrosse stadium has an artificial turf surface. There is no rain forecasted for Friday anyway, according to the latest weather report.

Weather.com is still showing Friday chances of rain = 15% day, 24% night.

I bought my tickets today. GA: $15.00 Friday only, $20.00 Friday & Sunday. I used electronic ticketing to print out my tickets for both days. (No waiting in line for will-call.)

I would like to assume that buying tickets guarantees seats, but the link at BrownBears.com, which Bill Howard posted, shows a seemingly SRO crowd by a fence. So, maybe the 3,500 seat figure is not the full capacity.

Fortunately, our game is the early one, and Brown's is late. It may be a safe assumption that many local fans won't show up for the early, dinnertime game.

My own plan is to go to the Providence Place Mall downtown, pick up some M-Day presents and an early dinner in the food court, and then head over to S-P Field around 5:30.

Beware: the parking lot there is not nearly big enough for a capacity crowd. On-street parking nearby is free, if you can find a spot.

Swampy

Ken711

mike1960

billhoward
Artificial turf for the lax tournament. Also: Seats 3,500 -- could that be a problem? Although Cornell at Princeton only drew 2,011 fans Saturday at a 4,000-seat stadium that has been filled in earlier years.

Much prefer an artificial field. A muddy track can be a leveler, and I think we're a better team than Yale.

Brown's lacrosse stadium has an artificial turf surface. There is no rain forecasted for Friday anyway, according to the latest weather report.

Weather.com is still showing Friday chances of rain = 15% day, 24% night.

I bought my tickets today. GA: $15.00 Friday only, $20.00 Friday & Sunday. I used electronic ticketing to print out my tickets for both days. (No waiting in line for will-call.)

I would like to assume that buying tickets guarantees seats, but the link at BrownBears.com, which Bill Howard posted, shows a seemingly SRO crowd by a fence. So, maybe the 3,500 seat figure is not the full capacity.

Fortunately, our game is the early one, and Brown's is late. It may be a safe assumption that many local fans won't show up for the early, dinnertime game.

My own plan is to go to the Providence Place Mall downtown, pick up some M-Day presents and an early dinner in the food court, and then head over to S-P Field around 5:30.

Beware: the parking lot there is not nearly big enough for a capacity crowd. On-street parking nearby is free, if you can find a spot.

Wear your lucky sweatshirt! We're going to need all the help we can get!

The art of the faceoff. Interesting D&C article about Rochester area faceoff specialists and technique. Comments by TD Ierlan.

Swampy
Beware: the parking lot there is not nearly big enough for a capacity crowd. On-street parking nearby is free, if you can find a spot.

I worry that Cornell's new athletic facilities (non-hockey/football/basketball) out Game Farm Road / Pine Tree Road way will have limited parking capacity so as to encourage parents and fans to park remotely (as if Pine Tree Road is not) then take a slow shuttle to the game.

The Cornell master plan offers this insight:

Game Farm Road Athletic Complex Facilities Master Plan June 2015
Opportunities to achieve connections to and from the central campus exist at the macro and micro level and should be embodied in the Game Farm Road organizational framework.

Actually, deep in the plan there's language showing parking plans for 524 cars. So maybe that works.

George64
The art of the faceoff. Interesting D&C article about Rochester area faceoff specialists and technique. Comments by TD Ierlan.

Victor Junior FOGO Sam Ricci, who’s 4th on the list in the article, is a Cornell recruit

This podcast by a former Syracuse player is dedicated to remembering Richie Moran. It's got some great stories by former Cornell players, dating back to Mike French, whose parents wanted him to stay home and work in the local automobile factory instead of going to college.

there will be parking there.. Its also a short walk from east hill office building parking to get there.I would not be surprised if a better walk way gets created when more things take place out there. Or a connector from the recreation way walk way gets added too. East hill plaza has not much going on for cars to be parked there as well. they can probably figure out a way to let some cars park there for events as cornell owns it.

Connor Buczek Ivy League Coach of the Year, and C.J. Kirst Rookie of the Year, Piatelli and Adler both named All-Ivy first team, with Adler an unanimous pick.
Complete list here.

scoop85

George64
The art of the faceoff. Interesting D&C article about Rochester area faceoff specialists and technique. Comments by TD Ierlan.

Victor Junior FOGO Sam Ricci, who’s 4th on the list in the article, is a Cornell recruit

Victor is currently 11-0, and alma mater of Chase and TD Ierlan.

George64

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George64
The art of the faceoff. Interesting D&C article about Rochester area faceoff specialists and technique. Comments by TD Ierlan.

Victor Junior FOGO Sam Ricci, who’s 4th on the list in the article, is a Cornell recruit

Victor is currently 11-0, and alma mater of Chase and TD Ierlan.

Hail to the Victors.

dbilmes
Connor Buczek Ivy League Coach of the Year, and C.J. Kirst Rookie of the Year, Piatelli and Adler both named All-Ivy first team, with Adler an unanimous pick.
Complete list here.

This is quite an accomplishment and feather in Connor's cap. He's the youngest D-1 lacrosse coach in the country and in his first year as head coach on-field. He's coaching in the Ivy League, which this year has 5 teams in the top 10, and 6 in the top 12. Almost by definition, such a high-powered conference has several excellent coaches. Yet it was Connor who won Coach of the Year.

When Andy Noel appointed Connor Head Coach, I was cynical and thought this was yet another ploy to avoid an expensive national search. But I have to admit that even a broken clock is right twice a day. In this case, Andy Noel made a superb decision.

Kudos to Connor and kudos to Andy.

Kudos also to C.J., John, and Gavin.

the big deal is can he get the recruits to keep it going more than 1 yr in a row.. we lose some pretty big pieces of the puzzle this year and we had very little depth.. some big shoes to fill next yr

Swampy

dbilmes
Connor Buczek Ivy League Coach of the Year, and C.J. Kirst Rookie of the Year, Piatelli and Adler both named All-Ivy first team, with Adler an unanimous pick.
Complete list here.

This is quite an accomplishment and feather in Connor's cap. He's the youngest D-1 lacrosse coach in the country and in his first year as head coach on-field. He's coaching in the Ivy League, which this year has 5 teams in the top 10, and 6 in the top 12. Almost by definition, such a high-powered conference has several excellent coaches. Yet it was Connor who won Coach of the Year.

When Andy Noel appointed Connor Head Coach, I was cynical and thought this was yet another ploy to avoid an expensive national search. But I have to admit that even a broken clock is right twice a day. In this case, Andy Noel made a superb decision.

Kudos to Connor and kudos to Andy.

Kudos also to C.J., John, and Gavin.

So much about college and professional sports is about "buy in" -- can you get great athletes to set aside their egos a little bit for the sake of the team. From its social media to the play on the field, this team is really pulling together, especially evident when key players went down from injury and others stepped in. We may not win it all this year (or we might!), but we are in a really good place for the foreseeable future.

upprdeck
the big deal is can he get the recruits to keep it going more than 1 yr in a row.. we lose some pretty big pieces of the puzzle this year and we had very little depth.. some big shoes to fill next yr

I’m too lazy/busy to give you the link, but IIRC, Inside Lacrosse ranks our incoming recruits second-highest in the Ivies.

I have no idea whether Noel sucks but he has managed to keep Schafer at Cornell all these years. I'm sure there have been poachers.

Trotsky
I have no idea whether Noel sucks but he has managed to keep Schafer at Cornell all these years. I'm sure there have been poachers.

Another reason to give kudos to Andy.

Now if ADs were scored the way RPIs are, we'd have to consider football, etc. The question would be, "Does Andy get an AQ, an at-large invite, no invite, or relegation?"

Good story about the resurgence of Ivy League lacrosse this spring after not playing last season.

Big day today! Press out on the shooters. Don't get behind early.

upprdeck
there will be parking there.. Its also a short walk from east hill office building parking to get there.I would not be surprised if a better walk way gets created when more things take place out there. Or a connector from the recreation way walk way gets added too. East hill plaza has not much going on for cars to be parked there as well. they can probably figure out a way to let some cars park there for events as cornell owns it.

The plan shows multiple parking cells of about 50 cars each. Less obtrusive. But also a challenge on multiple-game Saturdays if you have to hunt your way through multiple parking lots. Maybe Cornell will have a camera watching each lot and visual recognition of how many cars are in each that feeds into a Red Red Park app. Maybe. Also going to need a half-dozen, at least, EV chargers in each lot. If not now, within the decade.

dbilmes

Connor Buczek Ivy League Coach of the Year, and C.J. Kirst Rookie of the Year, Piatelli and Adler both named All-Ivy first team, with Adler an unanimous pick.
Complete list here.

If players on the All-Ivy second team and honorable mention speak to team depth, Cornell has a challenge in the tournament (and NCAAs) against Brown or Penn if we make it to Sunday, but not against Yale. We have 3; the average should be 4-1/2.

All-Ivy Second Team, Honorable Mention (31 Players)
7	Penn
6	Brown 
6 	Princeton 
4	Harvard (all HM) 
3	Cornell (2nd team: A CJ Kirst. HM: GS-SSM Harrison Bardwell, FO Angelo Petrakis)
3	Yale
2	Dartmouth 

Also: 
Academic All-Ivy
Luke Gaydos, Brown - (Sr., D - Ridgefield, Conn.)
John Piatelli, Cornell (Fifth Year, A – Wrentham, Mass.)
Daniel Hincks, Dartmouth (Sr., G - Newtonville, Mass.)
Chase Yager, Harvard (Jr., SSM – Virginia Beach, Va.) 
Sam Handley, Penn (Sr., M – Portland, Ore.)
George Baughan, Princeton (Sr., D – Wyndmoor, Pa.)
Chris Fake, Yale (Sr., D – Allentown, N.J.) 

dbilmes
Good story about the resurgence of Ivy League lacrosse this spring after not playing last season.

May this happen in hockey in 2023.

Does anyone have a sense for Cornell’s odds of making the NCAAs with a loss tonight? I presume we are 100% in with a win.

The mystery to me is why Lacrosse missed essentially two seasons and bounces back better than before, while hockey, which missed really one season plus one post season, is dramatically worse.

arugula
The mystery to me is why Lacrosse missed essentially two seasons and bounces back better than before, while hockey, which missed really one season plus one post season, is dramatically worse.

Man plans. God laughs.
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Small sample size.

BearLover
Does anyone have a sense for Cornell’s odds of making the NCAAs with a loss tonight? I presume we are 100% in with a win.

According to this, 100%, but we’ve heard that before…

[lacrossereference.com]

Where is the broadcast for tonight? I do not see it on ESPN+

KenP
Where is the broadcast for tonight? I do not see it on ESPN+

ESPNU showing it..

2-0 Yale mid-first. Now 2-1. Getting good chances. 2-2, both Llng from x.

Al DeFlorio

KenP
Where is the broadcast for tonight? I do not see it on ESPN+

ESPNU showing it..

so weird it should be streaming as well but there's no link.

Yale scored the first 2 but Cornell is up 3-2 with 6 minutes left in the first.

trading goals. 5-5.

5-5 now. Yale scorers unguarded by the crease.

Saves: Y 6, C 1

I hear there were 10 goals scored in the first quarter, 5-5 tie. I think I saw 5 of them. Hey, ESPN, bring a real satellite truck. Even the Hot Truck would handle the video feed better.

Yale 8 Cornell 5 after the 2nd period.

Yale starting to pull away now. 11-6 with 7 minutes left in the 3rd.