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Cornell lacrosse 2022

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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 11, 2022 10:11AM

I hope we win today. Of all the regular season games, regardless of how it hurts or helps our tournament chances, this is the one I care about the most.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: Weder (---.hsd1.va.comcast.net)
Date: April 11, 2022 10:24AM

Al DeFlorio
dbilmes
Who was the color commentator during the Harvard game? When I watched the Yale game a few weeks earlier, it was only the play-by-play guy. The broadcast was much better with a knowledgable color commentator.
Howie Borkan '81...excellent.

[cornellbigred.com]

He usually does radio, right? I wonder if this was a one-time thing or if they’re switching it up for good to give the ESPN+ broadcast, which presumably has a larger audience, a two-person booth.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 11, 2022 10:53AM

Weder
Al DeFlorio
dbilmes
Who was the color commentator during the Harvard game? When I watched the Yale game a few weeks earlier, it was only the play-by-play guy. The broadcast was much better with a knowledgable color commentator.
Howie Borkan '81...excellent.
[cornellbigred.com]
He usually does radio, right? I wonder if this was a one-time thing or if they’re switching it up for good to give the ESPN+ broadcast, which presumably has a larger audience, a two-person booth.
For ESPN+ Ivy league broadcasts, the feed is the one supplied by the home school. Our guys in the broadcast booth are better the Yale's.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: dag14 (---.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
Date: April 11, 2022 12:01PM

Howie lives and works in NYC so if his color commentary is missing at a game, it means he couldn't make the trip. Tom Lafalce -- a Cornell employee who also does a great job -- is the other regular color guy. He was at Colgate I believe.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 11, 2022 12:38PM

dag14
Howie lives and works in NYC so if his color commentary is missing at a game, it means he couldn't make the trip. Tom Lafalce -- a Cornell employee who also does a great job -- is the other regular color guy. He was at Colgate I believe.

Did LaFalce play at Colgate?
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: Scersk '97 (38.81.106.---)
Date: April 11, 2022 12:45PM

mike1960
dag14
Howie lives and works in NYC so if his color commentary is missing at a game, it means he couldn't make the trip. Tom Lafalce -- a Cornell employee who also does a great job -- is the other regular color guy. He was at Colgate I believe.

Did LaFalce play at Colgate?

Tom was once head manager of the Big Red Marching Band. He's from Long Island, so I've always assumed he played in high school.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 11, 2022 12:57PM

Scersk '97
mike1960
dag14
Howie lives and works in NYC so if his color commentary is missing at a game, it means he couldn't make the trip. Tom Lafalce -- a Cornell employee who also does a great job -- is the other regular color guy. He was at Colgate I believe.

Did LaFalce play at Colgate?

Tom was once head manager of the Big Red Marching Band. He's from Long Island, so I've always assumed he played in high school.

Interesting. I really like listening to him talk about the game. He catches some things that Barry misses, and he's good on strategy.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: dag14 (---.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
Date: April 11, 2022 02:12PM

Sorry; about Tom -- I meant he covered the Colgate game not that he is a Colgate alum.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 11, 2022 07:13PM

AP was looking to score. He needs to get it to the attack and move off the field. He's winning the clamps but seems to anxious after he gets it.

We'll come back and make this a game, but this is a deep hole obviously.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: jeff '84 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: April 11, 2022 07:28PM

mike1960
AP was looking to score. He needs to get it to the attack and move off the field. He's winning the clamps but seems to anxious after he gets it.

We'll come back and make this a game, but this is a deep hole obviously.

That hole is 7-2, Orange.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 11, 2022 07:28PM

It feels like Chayse should have stopped a couple of those, but Syracuse is shooting well.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 11, 2022 07:36PM

What does the announcer mean by a "stick penalty"?
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 11, 2022 07:38PM

So many mistakes.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 11, 2022 07:39PM

That's like four wrap-around goals.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 11, 2022 07:49PM

AP has lost the edge he had to begin the game.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 11, 2022 07:58PM

AP needs to keep his feet. He goes down too easily.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 11, 2022 08:09PM

I think I'd rather Cornell put Chayse back in.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 11, 2022 08:11PM

Came out with some energy!
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 11, 2022 08:13PM

Hit the cutters twice for two goals! Keep it up!
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 11, 2022 08:28PM

We're back in this one.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 11, 2022 08:29PM

Strong cuts. They work.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 11, 2022 08:53PM

Great D at 3:40.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 11, 2022 09:10PM

I just scared my dog I yelled so loud.

What a great win!
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: jeff '84 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: April 11, 2022 09:10PM

WHAT A WIN! 16-15 OT
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: dag14 (---.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
Date: April 11, 2022 09:23PM

I didn't watch the game [too complicated to explain why I didn't have the feed] and after just a little of the WHCU broadcast, I decided I couldn't deal with that either. So I had to rely on the updating of the stats. Needless to say, early on I was just as happy that I hadn't paid to see the game but of course the Cardiac Kids did it again, coming from behind to pull it out.

Having watched games in the Dome and knowing a number of Cornell goalies over the years, I know that they often struggle to see the ball at Syracuse. Those who watced the game: was that Chayse's problem? I prefer not to name names, but some outstanding goalies have absolutely sucked when they had to play in the Dome so I have no problem saying this was a one-off and hoping he can chalk it up to experience.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: arugula (---.sub-174-204-129.myvzw.com)
Date: April 11, 2022 09:24PM

They just keep going. Love the fact that the parade of coaches who, ahem, moved on are all having tough years while Cornell just keeps winning. Petramala, Tambroni, Milliman, Deluca. Anyone else?
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: blackwidow (---.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)
Date: April 11, 2022 09:30PM

midfield is concerning
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: rss77 (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: April 11, 2022 09:32PM

I thought Knust did an excellent job in Goal but Ierlan had a rough start and would think Buczek would reinsert Chayse at Goal against Army. Piatelli is a Monster out there. I don't recall a Cornell athlete having a better shooting % in a game. Gutsy all around effort and the key was Petrakis held his own against the Syracuse faceoff guy who came in at 59%.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 11, 2022 09:34PM

dag14
I didn't watch the game [too complicated to explain why I didn't have the feed] and after just a little of the WHCU broadcast, I decided I couldn't deal with that either. So I had to rely on the updating of the stats. Needless to say, early on I was just as happy that I hadn't paid to see the game but of course the Cardiac Kids did it again, coming from behind to pull it out.

Having watched games in the Dome and knowing a number of Cornell goalies over the years, I know that they often struggle to see the ball at Syracuse. Those who watced the game: was that Chayse's problem? I prefer not to name names, but some outstanding goalies have absolutely sucked when they had to play in the Dome so I have no problem saying this was a one-off and hoping he can chalk it up to experience.

There were two or three goals shot from 15 yards+ that Chayse probably could have had, although later in the game Knust also gave up a couple from that range (in zone the Cornell D didn't offer a strong challenge to those shooters). The wrap-around goals also gave Chayse problems from the invert. Those shots attempts were curtailed by the zone. (Great coaching move by Buczek.) I tried to check but I don't think Chayse had a save.

I have to wonder if Chayse just had problems picking up the ball in the Dome. I've read that's a problem for some goalies. It will be interesting to see who starts against Army.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/11/2022 09:46PM by mike1960.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 11, 2022 09:39PM

arugula
They just keep going. Love the fact that the parade of coaches who, ahem, moved on are all having tough years while Cornell just keeps winning. Petramala, Tambroni, Milliman, Deluca. Anyone else?

I love it when they lose. I'm a small person that way.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 11, 2022 09:45PM

dag14
Having watched games in the Dome and knowing a number of Cornell goalies over the years, I know that they often struggle to see the ball at Syracuse.
This is true. But in the Dome in 1987, Paul Schimoler made 31 saves while giving up four goals. Guess he saw the ball.

 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: April 11, 2022 10:03PM

Long story, but I couldn't watch the game earlier. (Did listen to WHCU, however.) Is there any way to replay it on demand?
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: KenP (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 11, 2022 10:10PM

Swampy
Long story, but I couldn't watch the game earlier. (Did listen to WHCU, however.) Is there any way to replay it on demand?
it will be on ESPN+ tomorrow night
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 11, 2022 10:22PM

KenP
Swampy
Long story, but I couldn't watch the game earlier. (Did listen to WHCU, however.) Is there any way to replay it on demand?
it will be on ESPN+ tomorrow night

It's already available on ESPN. (I don't see it on ESPN+).

[www.espn.com]
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: April 11, 2022 10:25PM

mike1960
KenP
Swampy
Long story, but I couldn't watch the game earlier. (Did listen to WHCU, however.) Is there any way to replay it on demand?
it will be on ESPN+ tomorrow night

It's already available on ESPN. (I don't see it on ESPN+).

[www.espn.com]

Much grass!
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 11, 2022 10:28PM

Sick game! LGR
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 12, 2022 12:23AM

Great angle for the winning shot!

?s=20&t=sSUnYm6y3Ljo5wG2Zv8EWw
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 12, 2022 12:29AM

Like playing in an abandoned zeppelin hangar.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: CU77 (---.sb.sd.cox.net)
Date: April 12, 2022 01:03AM

mike1960
What does the announcer mean by a "stick penalty"?
Use of a stick that doesn't meet specs, usually because the pocket of the netting is too deep.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 12, 2022 08:01AM

CU77
mike1960
What does the announcer mean by a "stick penalty"?
Use of a stick that doesn't meet specs, usually because the pocket of the netting is too deep.

Ok, thanks! I think that's non-releasable.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/12/2022 08:37AM by mike1960.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: nshapiro (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 12, 2022 03:17PM

At present, there is just one ACC team in the top 8 'at-large' slots in RPI (after Maryland, Princeton and Georgetown take Conference slots). Of course, the committee will still figure out a way to get 3 or 4 ACC teams in the tournament because the ACC is always, by definition, the strongest conference, despite on-field results. [www.ncaa.com]
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: RichH (104.28.77.---)
Date: April 12, 2022 03:24PM

mike1960
I just scared my dog I yelled so loud.

What a great win!

I just gotta say that I sincerely love having mike1960’s energy around here. I enjoy reading through his chat sessions during games, even though I’m often reading them after-the-fact. Thanks for joining us here, mike.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 12, 2022 03:25PM

i am enjoying the wins but resolutely not getting my hopes up given the razor-thin margins of victory. it's fun though!

 
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 12, 2022 09:23PM

RichH
mike1960
I just scared my dog I yelled so loud.

What a great win!

I just gotta say that I sincerely love having mike1960’s energy around here. I enjoy reading through his chat sessions during games, even though I’m often reading them after-the-fact. Thanks for joining us here, mike.

Thanks! It's nice to find a place on the net where a group of folks can talk about Big Red lacrosse!
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: CU77 (---.sb.sd.cox.net)
Date: April 12, 2022 11:01PM

Just in case some here don't know, there is an active group of Cornell lax fans (including at least a couple of former Cornell lax players) at fanlax.com.

Cornell 2022 thread, with close to 1000 posts: [fanlax.com]
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/12/2022 11:03PM by CU77.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: Cornell95 (8.47.99.---)
Date: April 13, 2022 09:33AM

Heading down to Ithaca for Saturday's game against Army... first time on campus in probably 5 years
Any benefit to buying tickets in advance versus at the gate?

Saw Army play Cuse (my sister is a season ticket holder) and they will be a tough opponent
Adler will have another challenging assignment shutting down their top attack, and they bring and use a large roster (Westpoint website has 66 guys listed with uniform numbers)
Scanning their roster page, looks like they also have a Cornell connection on the coaching staff, Kyle Georgalas
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: April 13, 2022 09:39AM

with decent weather might be an OK crowd.. buying ahead means skipping that small line I suspect.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (185.203.219.---)
Date: April 13, 2022 12:48PM

I'm embarrassed to say how many times I've watched that OT goal to beat Syracuse. I wish we could have had a mike in the huddle. It looks like they wanted to get CJ to GLE and draw a double team, and then a quick pass to Coyle and then to Kelleher for the step down. As soon as Coyle took the pass, he knew exactly where Kelleher would be and passed it to optimum shooting position by Kelleher's head. It was a thing of beauty.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: CU77 (---.wireless.ucsb.edu)
Date: April 13, 2022 05:53PM

It was indeed a thing of beauty, but my guess is that it was not scripted at that level. Kirst looks to me like he's just moving the ball on because he was stymied at GLE, and then Coyle is just moving it on, and then Kelleher sees an opportunity to shoot because no defender is on him.

Either way, scripted or just heads-up play, it was a fantastic end to the game.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/13/2022 05:54PM by CU77.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 13, 2022 07:54PM

CU77
It was indeed a thing of beauty, but my guess is that it was not scripted at that level. Kirst looks to me like he's just moving the ball on because he was stymied at GLE, and then Coyle is just moving it on, and then Kelleher sees an opportunity to shoot because no defender is on him.

Either way, scripted or just heads-up play, it was a fantastic end to the game.
As that final sequence started, Ryan Boyle said "watch out for Kelleher here; we weren't able to get totally into the huddle."

 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 13, 2022 09:06PM

Is there some kind of poetic justice that Cornell's tying goal came with four seconds left on the shot clock?

 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: CU77 (---.sb.sd.cox.net)
Date: April 13, 2022 10:44PM

Paul Carcaterra interviews Connor Buczek for 50min on his podcast. Worth a listen (and I'm someone who never listens to podcasts ...)
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: April 13, 2022 10:56PM

beat army and then at least win one of the last 2.

I think then, no matter what we probably get into the NCAAs at 12-3 at the worst.

Win out and you may be a 2-3-4 seed. Try to get seeded to avoid Maryland I think is the goal right now.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: April 13, 2022 11:42PM

CU77
Paul Carcaterra interviews Connor Buczek for 50min on his podcast. Worth a listen (and I'm someone who never listens to podcasts ...)

Same here. I listened last night, and my already great impression of Buczek was only elevated. He was smart, humble, insightful, and charming. I’m confident the program is in great hands for a long time.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 14, 2022 08:33AM

scoop85
CU77
Paul Carcaterra interviews Connor Buczek for 50min on his podcast. Worth a listen (and I'm someone who never listens to podcasts ...)

Same here. I listened last night, and my already great impression of Buczek was only elevated. He was smart, humble, insightful, and charming. I’m confident the program is in great hands for a long time.

Agreed. It sounds like we have a great young coach (not yet 30) with a lot of energy, knowledge, and maturity. From his playing days in college and in the pros, he must garner immediate respect from the players. He's also a Cornell guy, through and through. We're lucky things turned out the way they did.

Also grudging respect to the interview by the Syracuse guy. Good questions, although I wish he had asked about Xs and Os, or about things like strengths/weaknesses of the current offenses and defenses.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/14/2022 08:35AM by mike1960.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: CU77 (---.wireless.ucsb.edu)
Date: April 14, 2022 07:41PM

IL midseason "freshman" impact ratings have Kirst #1 and Kelleher #7:

[www.insidelacrosse.com]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/14/2022 07:43PM by CU77.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 14, 2022 10:48PM

CU77
It was indeed a thing of beauty, but my guess is that it was not scripted at that level. Kirst looks to me like he's just moving the ball on because he was stymied at GLE, and then Coyle is just moving it on, and then Kelleher sees an opportunity to shoot because no defender is on him.

Either way, scripted or just heads-up play, it was a fantastic end to the game.

With 1:18 in regulation in the timeout, Pietro told the Syracuse D in the huddle to double CJ. They did. I have to think the Cornell coaches saw that and took advantage of it in overtime.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 16, 2022 12:09PM

Hoping for a non-stressful win today, but Army is really good.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 16, 2022 02:53PM

Brown routing Yale 19-11 late.

 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.cdn77.com)
Date: April 16, 2022 03:18PM

I wish we were more aggressive on our shots. It's as if we are trying to run down the clock and have time for just one shot.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 16, 2022 03:19PM

Another awful start down 4-0. Three possessions all resulted in rushed shots with less than 10 on the shot clock.

 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 16, 2022 03:23PM

Army shooters getting a lot of room and Ierlan continues to go down on shots.

 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.cdn77.com)
Date: April 16, 2022 03:23PM

We're not doing a great job getting out to the shooters at 12 yards.

Have we won a faceoff yet?
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: Ken711 (---.clppva.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 16, 2022 03:41PM

Must be they haven't come down from the high of their Syracuse win. Oh well.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.cdn77.com)
Date: April 16, 2022 03:53PM

Yep, keeping looking for the cutter on the crease!
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.cdn77.com)
Date: April 16, 2022 04:05PM

18-9 ground balls. Faceoffs 11-14.

Ouch.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: April 16, 2022 04:13PM

you wont win many games if the only faceoff wins are the other guys violations.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.cdn77.com)
Date: April 16, 2022 04:21PM

We're just not getting out and getting sticks on the hands of the shooters. Lack of energy?
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: April 16, 2022 04:31PM

have to add the goalie play was really bad as well. The army D was outstanding controlling the locations we got into and then the goalie made saves on top of it.. we have too many awful turnovers and probably 5-6 goals were on shots you have to save at a high volume.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.cdn77.com)
Date: April 16, 2022 04:39PM

Every Army shot is hands free.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: CU77 (---.sb.sd.cox.net)
Date: April 16, 2022 05:14PM

NCAA selection committee announced their current top 10 (before today's games):

Maryland
Princeton
Georgetown
Cornell
Yale
Rutgers
Virginia
Ohio State
Penn
Jacksonville
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 16, 2022 06:24PM

Army whipped us in every aspect. Felt like a dam breaking. Have to pick up the pieces.

 
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: semsox (---.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 16, 2022 08:08PM

mike1960
Hoping for a non-stressful win today, but Army is really good.

Oof. Best they had was a non-stressful loss. At least they lost the 'right' out of conference game this week. On to Brown next week.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (94.140.9.---)
Date: April 16, 2022 08:28PM

semsox
mike1960
Hoping for a non-stressful win today, but Army is really good.

Oof. Best they had was a non-stressful loss. At least they lost the 'right' out of conference game this week. On to Brown next week.

Yes, we'll see how well Coach Buczek can get the team together to focus on Brown. The team certainly came out with a serious post-big-win funk and didn't really snap out of it until it was too late. They just need to remember that everything is still there for the taking. They just need to work harder and get better.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: CU77 (---.sb.sd.cox.net)
Date: April 16, 2022 09:52PM

6 Ivy games to go, 2^6 = 64 possible outcomes.

For now I'm only going to do the scenarios where Dartmouth loses its last two games (to Penn and Brown).
And I'm only going to do the simplest tie-breaker of record among the tied teams. Complete list of tie-breakers is here: [ivyleague.com]
And I'm not sure how (3a) applies in a case like (C,Y,Pr),(B,H,Pe)

C>B,H>Pr,Y>H,Pr>C: (C,Y,Pr),(B,H,Pe)
C>B,H>Pr,Y>H,C>Pr: C,Y,H,Pr
C>B,H>Pr,H>Y,Pr>C: (C,H,Pr),B
C>B,H>Pr,H>Y,C>Pr: C,H,(B,Pr,Y)

C>B,Pr>H,Y>H,Pr>C: Pr,C,Y,B
C>B,Pr>H,Y>H,C>Pr: C,Y,Pr,B
C>B,Pr>H,H>Y,Pr>C: Pr,C,H,B
C>B,Pr>H,H>Y,C>Pr: C,Pr,H,B

B>C,H>Pr,Y>H,Pr>C: (B,Pr,Y),Pe
B>C,H>Pr,Y>H,C>Pr: B,C,Y,(H,Pe,Pr)
B>C,H>Pr,H>Y,Pr>C: H,Pr,B,(C,Pe,Y)
B>C,H>Pr,H>Y,C>Pr: (B,C,H),Y

B>C,Pr>H,Y>H,Pr>C: Pr,B,Y,Pe
B>C,Pr>H,Y>H,C>Pr: B,C,Y,Pr
B>C,Pr>H,H>Y,Pr>C: Pr,B,Pe,C
B>C,Pr>H,H>Y,C>Pr: (B,C,Pr),(H,Pe,Y)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/16/2022 09:53PM by CU77.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: April 17, 2022 11:17AM

Brown might well win the last 2 and end up 4-2
Cornell ends up 3-3
Penn beats dart and goes to 3-3
Harv I suspect splits beats Princ loses to Yale and goes 3-3
Princ loses to Harv/ beats Cornell 4-2
Yale beats Harvard to go to 4-2

3 way tie for 4th

Cornell is 1-1
Penn is 2-2
Harv 0-2

Cornell better 1 one of those last 2 games

Now if Princ wins out and Harv beats yale then its
Princ 5-2
Yale 3-3, Harv 3-3, Penn 3-3 Cornell 3-3 and imagine if Dart beats Brown then Brown 3-3

We can be first or out of the Ivy Tourney.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: rss77 (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: April 17, 2022 12:12PM

Cornell defense was worn down by Army's dominance at faceoff X. Like any game possession of the ball is everything. We can talk about the Goalie play but Army's offensive players seemed to have time and room on every shot puts too much pressure Ierlan or Brust to make miraculous saves. Sometimes the faceoff strikes me like having a jump ball after every basket, It puts such a premium on one specialist to have possession dominance,
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (94.140.9.---)
Date: April 17, 2022 01:21PM

rss77
Cornell defense was worn down by Army's dominance at faceoff X. Like any game possession of the ball is everything. We can talk about the Goalie play but Army's offensive players seemed to have time and room on every shot puts too much pressure Ierlan or Brust to make miraculous saves. Sometimes the faceoff strikes me like having a jump ball after every basket, It puts such a premium on one specialist to have possession dominance,

I wonder how physically and emotionally drained they were after the Syracuse game. From the jump against Army, our defense looked like they were playing in sand. How many uncontested shots did Army get at 12 yards out? Chayse has had a little trouble with the mid-range shot this year anyway, and then add the possible loss of confidence and you get a super tough day for him.

I can't remember which game it was earlier in the season, but I was incredibly impressed that the Cornell long poles had a stick on the hands of every shooter almost every time. A shooter just can't score if he can't follow through. But lately they've not always gotten out on the shooters, even with the 6 foot long pole, and especially not against Army. Part of the reason may be the zone defense, but I think it's just a question of getting back to fundamentals. They've shown they can do it.

So we went down 7-0 and there was no indication in the first quarter that Cornell was doing to drag itself out of it, but the team played more or less evenly on the scoreboard at least after the first quarter (with some junk time goals). Cornell is still an excellent team that's a little thin at middie. They can still do serious damage in the tournament.

Sorry to beat a dead horse, but again I'll mention that the cutting game works when they use it. Long to Coyle is a winning combination. They have the stick skills to make this a devastating part of their game, and it will open up shots on the outside. But instead they camp two guys in front of the crease and rarely throw to them. When they do, the long-poles are well trained to check sticks and make that pass difficult. Teat made a living snapping passes to cutters, and that made the rest of his game even harder to defend. /soapbox
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: April 18, 2022 02:36PM

mike1960
rss77
Cornell defense was worn down by Army's dominance at faceoff X. Like any game possession of the ball is everything. We can talk about the Goalie play but Army's offensive players seemed to have time and room on every shot puts too much pressure Ierlan or Brust to make miraculous saves. Sometimes the faceoff strikes me like having a jump ball after every basket, It puts such a premium on one specialist to have possession dominance,

I wonder how physically and emotionally drained they were after the Syracuse game. From the jump against Army, our defense looked like they were playing in sand. How many uncontested shots did Army get at 12 yards out? Chayse has had a little trouble with the mid-range shot this year anyway, and then add the possible loss of confidence and you get a super tough day for him.

I can't remember which game it was earlier in the season, but I was incredibly impressed that the Cornell long poles had a stick on the hands of every shooter almost every time. A shooter just can't score if he can't follow through. But lately they've not always gotten out on the shooters, even with the 6 foot long pole, and especially not against Army. Part of the reason may be the zone defense, but I think it's just a question of getting back to fundamentals. They've shown they can do it.

So we went down 7-0 and there was no indication in the first quarter that Cornell was doing to drag itself out of it, but the team played more or less evenly on the scoreboard at least after the first quarter (with some junk time goals). Cornell is still an excellent team that's a little thin at middie. They can still do serious damage in the tournament.

Sorry to beat a dead horse, but again I'll mention that the cutting game works when they use it. Long to Coyle is a winning combination. They have the stick skills to make this a devastating part of their game, and it will open up shots on the outside. But instead they camp two guys in front of the crease and rarely throw to them. When they do, the long-poles are well trained to check sticks and make that pass difficult. Teat made a living snapping passes to cutters, and that made the rest of his game even harder to defend. /soapbox

Agree about most things you say, Mike. I'd add the following. (1) Maybe I haven't watched closely enough, but it seems Cornell rarely uses picks to free up cutters. I've noticed Coyle setting picks, but given his size and skills, better results are more likely when he dodges off a pick and gets a feed from Long. (2) There was at least one time in the Army game, probably more, when Piatelli was double-teamed while trying to get to goal. In such instances, the standard remedy is to pass to someone at the back post. But at least once, as I said, I noticed there was nobody there. In fact, I noticed Army, Cuse, and (IIRC) Harvard using this tactic effectively against us, but Cornell rarely (but not never) used it.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 18, 2022 07:20PM

scoop85
Same here. I listened last night, and my already great impression of Buczek was only elevated. He was smart, humble, insightful, and charming. I’m confident the program is in great hands for a long time.
The Cornell program in great hands? Or Hopkins'? UNC's? Stanford's (once they start lacrosse)? We're getting to be the cradle of lacrosse coaches, between coaches and ex-players.

If Buczek does stay in Ithaca, maybe he is Cornell's next male athletic director circa 2030? 2035?
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022 Brown 4/23
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 21, 2022 02:47PM

Cornell 10-2 hosts Brown lacrosse 7-4 Saturday at noon. A couple weeks ago it seemed Cornell might split the final games, Brown home, Princeton away. Now, after the Army game, is there a chance the last 3 RS games are all not victorious?
Team          Ivy Next games 
Cornell ..... 3-1 Brown, @ Princeton 
Princeton ... 3-1 @ Harvard, hosts Cornell 
Yale ........ 3-2 Harvard 4/30 
Harvard ..... 2-2 Princeton, @Yale 
Brown ....... 2-2 @Cornell, Dartmouth 
Penn ........ 2-3 Final game @ Dartmouth Saturday, should finish 3-3, holds H2H tiebreaker vs. Cornell  
Dartmouth ... 0-4

Scores:
Brown 13, Cornell 8
Harvard 19, Princeton 16 (Crimson outscore Tigers 8-4 in the fourth, was a 15-15 tie ~6 mins to play)
Penn at Dartmouth, 3:30 start
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/23/2022 03:14PM by billhoward.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022 Brown 4/23
Posted by: nshapiro (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 21, 2022 09:49PM

Is there any website that regularly re-calculates RPI, like CHN and USCHO do for hockey?
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 21, 2022 11:26PM

Swampy
mike1960
rss77
Cornell defense was worn down by Army's dominance at faceoff X. Like any game possession of the ball is everything. We can talk about the Goalie play but Army's offensive players seemed to have time and room on every shot puts too much pressure Ierlan or Brust to make miraculous saves. Sometimes the faceoff strikes me like having a jump ball after every basket, It puts such a premium on one specialist to have possession dominance,

I wonder how physically and emotionally drained they were after the Syracuse game. From the jump against Army, our defense looked like they were playing in sand. How many uncontested shots did Army get at 12 yards out? Chayse has had a little trouble with the mid-range shot this year anyway, and then add the possible loss of confidence and you get a super tough day for him.

I can't remember which game it was earlier in the season, but I was incredibly impressed that the Cornell long poles had a stick on the hands of every shooter almost every time. A shooter just can't score if he can't follow through. But lately they've not always gotten out on the shooters, even with the 6 foot long pole, and especially not against Army. Part of the reason may be the zone defense, but I think it's just a question of getting back to fundamentals. They've shown they can do it.

So we went down 7-0 and there was no indication in the first quarter that Cornell was doing to drag itself out of it, but the team played more or less evenly on the scoreboard at least after the first quarter (with some junk time goals). Cornell is still an excellent team that's a little thin at middie. They can still do serious damage in the tournament.

Sorry to beat a dead horse, but again I'll mention that the cutting game works when they use it. Long to Coyle is a winning combination. They have the stick skills to make this a devastating part of their game, and it will open up shots on the outside. But instead they camp two guys in front of the crease and rarely throw to them. When they do, the long-poles are well trained to check sticks and make that pass difficult. Teat made a living snapping passes to cutters, and that made the rest of his game even harder to defend. /soapbox

Agree about most things you say, Mike. I'd add the following. (1) Maybe I haven't watched closely enough, but it seems Cornell rarely uses picks to free up cutters. I've noticed Coyle setting picks, but given his size and skills, better results are more likely when he dodges off a pick and gets a feed from Long. (2) There was at least one time in the Army game, probably more, when Piatelli was double-teamed while trying to get to goal. In such instances, the standard remedy is to pass to someone at the back post. But at least once, as I said, I noticed there was nobody there. In fact, I noticed Army, Cuse, and (IIRC) Harvard using this tactic effectively against us, but Cornell rarely (but not never) used it.

I completely agree. I was watching some video of Jeff Teat, and when he played the crease attackmen were much more active about getting open for passes. This season, it seems the crease attack don't really move much, I guess to screen outside shots from the goalie. This has often been very effective, but when the offense becomes predicable or stagnant, maybe they could switch it up to a different set and get the crease attackmen more active and setting off-ball picks.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022 Brown 4/23
Posted by: CU77 (---.sb.sd.cox.net)
Date: April 22, 2022 01:47AM

nshapiro
Is there any website that regularly re-calculates RPI, like CHN and USCHO do for hockey?

[college.laxpower2.com]
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022 Brown 4/23
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 22, 2022 07:30AM

CU77
nshapiro
Is there any website that regularly re-calculates RPI, like CHN and USCHO do for hockey?
[college.laxpower2.com]
Which site before the Brown game puts Cornell at 8 and Brown at 9.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022 Brown 4/23
Posted by: nshapiro (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 22, 2022 08:32AM

billhoward
CU77
nshapiro
Is there any website that regularly re-calculates RPI, like CHN and USCHO do for hockey?
[college.laxpower2.com]
Which site before the Brown game puts Cornell at 8 and Brown at 9.
[lacrossereference.com] I guess is already updated to include last night, and now has OSU above Brown. I know these two sites do RPI calculations, but it is not like CHN and USCHO which have updates within minutes of the end of each game.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/22/2022 08:34AM by nshapiro.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 23, 2022 11:42AM

Let's go!!
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 23, 2022 12:04PM

Adler looks like a man among boys out there.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 23, 2022 12:06PM

Hands free, outside shot from Brown.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 23, 2022 12:11PM

Another awful start. Poor shooting. No saves. Turnovers. Hands-free Brown shots.

 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 23, 2022 12:18PM

Brown just plays much much smarter lacrosse. Cornell impotent on offense.

 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 23, 2022 12:24PM

We need to get out on the shooters. Brown is certainly getting out on our shooters.

The cutter needs to catch and shoot or quick stick. There's no time to cradle. They'll get swarmed by the defense.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 23, 2022 12:29PM

Hands free shot for the good guys.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 23, 2022 12:44PM

Piatelli's last goal looked like a Jeff Teat shot: Not hard but very accurate.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 23, 2022 01:28PM

Al DeFlorio
Another awful start. Poor shooting. No saves. Turnovers. Hands-free Brown shots.

We just aren't hitting the corners of the square today, Al.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 23, 2022 01:45PM

BS call. Clean hit.

Ref responds to Brown coach.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/23/2022 01:46PM by mike1960.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 23, 2022 02:01PM

This was a truly disappointing loss. Let's hope the guys spend a lot of time on shooting drills and getting out to the shooter on defense this week. Then maybe we can give Princeton a game.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 23, 2022 02:07PM

post the @#$*&#$ score you lunatics!

 
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: April 23, 2022 02:09PM

brown goalie making a huge amount of saves.. irlan played well enough.. Kirst with that many shots needs to get more than 1..
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2022
Posted by: CU77 (---.sb.sd.cox.net)
Date: April 23, 2022 02:20PM

ugarte
post the @#$*&#$ score you lunatics!

Final: Brown 13, Cornell 8
 
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