Cornell lacrosse 2019

Video now showing pre-game warmups for Towson-JU game. Not a good sign.

Al DeFlorio
Video now showing pre-game warmups for Towson-JU game. Not a good sign.

I had to download the periscope app and watch it on my iPad. Although there has not been a lot good to see so far.

it's on pscp.tv. Two Cornell possessions and two throwaways.

Been as big a defender of Bullen as there is, but it's time to put Ierlan in.

Ierlan warming up.

semsox
Been as big a defender of Bullen as there is, but it's time to put Ierlan in.

Ya think???

Ierlan save. And offense throws it away again.

And he makes 3 saves in the first PSU offensive possession.

Depressing thing is Penn held PSU to a one goal win. 9-2 and another throwaway. 10-2, win faceoff, throw it away. That's at least five throwaways.

Al DeFlorio
Depressing thing is Penn held PSU to a one goal win. 9-2 and another throwaway.

Can't watch anymore.

this wet field is not helping an already bad situation.. so many sloppy passes

upprdeck
this wet field is not helping an already bad situation.. so many sloppy passes

We keep slipping and falling. Happened in the Schoellkopf games, too.

Well, we actually outscored them 3-2 in the 2nd to make it 11-5 at the half. Probably too big a hill to climb, but I hope we play well in the 2nd half to at least feel better about where we stand as a team.

PSU middies continue to get open shots. Too easy.

PSU faceoff violation. We throw it away.

Three close-in shots to pull within four but all missed net. Then PSU makes it six again.

Pretty clear that Ierlan is the answer in goal and that this season is really going to come down to winning enough faceoffs or getting good D - either one would be sufficient, both would be great.

Pulled to within 14-11 but then couldn't win a face-off. 17-11

30 of 35 PSU shots were on goal. 20 of 30 for Cornell.

unforced errors and struggles on the X against a good offense are bad things

good news is once we made the goalie change it was a 1 goal game even winning almost no faceoffs

I hope Chayse Ierlan has won the starting position and can settle in for the remainder of the season.

See that the FOGO Andrews had only one faceoff. Not sure why

Is anyone having any luck getting the webcast?

Thanks.

off to another awful start.. not sure video is wise for the eyes

Appears there's no video. But given that we're down 5-2 and have given up 2 goals to a long pole, maybe that's not a bad thing.

working now

video is up now

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5 straight and it's 7-5 Red early 2nd

is there any way to pause the stream to get it in sync with the whcu commentary?

Cornell on an 8 goal run. Petterson with 6. 8-5 Cornell.

now 7 straight - 9-5 Red

10-5

11-5

10-5. Petterson with 7!

At least 3 of Towson's 6 goals have come on a fast break or a FOGO rush.

the stats say cornell has only won 6 of 25 draws. thast crazy to be winning

Cornell man-down 11 times

what was that last penalty on cornell, when they were calling for timeout and didnt get it..

3rd FO violation, Then the coach went ballistic and someone got an unsportsmanlike conduct violation. Not sure if it was the coach or Griff Buczek as it was hard to tell from the radio broadcast where it sounded like Griff got the penalty, not that he was just serving the penalty
.

but the last last penalty cornell had the ball in offensive end and then something was called..

too many penalties, not sure which is worse to have that or no wins on the X

Statement win. And nice bounce back from a tough loss.

CU2007
Statement win. And nice bounce back from a tough loss.

Absolutely!

upprdeck
but the last last penalty cornell had the ball in offensive end and then something was called..

too many penalties, not sure which is worse to have that or no wins on the X

Penalties were the price paid for a very aggressive D that caused a zillion turnovers and probably intimidated several more. Black unis spent a lot of time on the turf.

Al DeFlorio

upprdeck
but the last last penalty cornell had the ball in offensive end and then something was called..

too many penalties, not sure which is worse to have that or no wins on the X

Penalties were the price paid for a very aggressive D that caused a zillion turnovers and probably intimidated several more. Black unis spent a lot of time on the turf.

We’re going to need to creat lots of turnovers next Saturday since we’ll be fortunate to win even 10% of the draws. But today showed the formula for winning when you can’t win faceoffs. And when you have as versatile an offense as we have, we should be able to compete with about anyone.

so why did rasimowicz only take draws in the 2nd half?

Al DeFlorio

upprdeck
but the last last penalty cornell had the ball in offensive end and then something was called..

too many penalties, not sure which is worse to have that or no wins on the X

Penalties were the price paid for a very aggressive D that caused a zillion turnovers and probably intimidated several more. Black unis spent a lot of time on the turf.

Here are so more stats. I believe I got them transcribed.

                            Towson   Cornell
Faceoffs won                26        6
Forced turnovers             7       14
Unforced turnovers by opp    7        9
Failed clear by opp          2        7
Saves made                   8       10
Got the ball/back           50       46

Nice that Cornell forced a lot of turnovers, and it's more disheartening to the opponent than losing N+ GBs. Add in unforced turnovers the team made, and times the opponent failed to clear, and finally Cornell gets closer on stats. Does that make us feel better? No, because if you're trying to catch up, or protect a lead, you want to win the faceoff.

upprdeck
so why did rasimowicz only take draws in the 2nd half?

Trouble adjusting to Daylight Savings Time. Maybe he's not a mornings kind of person.

upprdeck
but the last last penalty cornell had the ball in offensive end and then something was called..

too many penalties, not sure which is worse to have that or no wins on the X

Box score says that in addition to scoring 8-0-8 (on 10 shots), Clarke Petterson was also 3-03:00 on penalties. Trying to remember: Does college lacrosse still eject a player for five personal fouls?

Towson is not in the same category with Yale and Penn State. And Towson killed itself by locking off Teat (I'm sure they saw it as the less painful option). Wonder what Shay's strategy will be. Teat was not faceguarded in the ILT championship game and he wreaked havoc on the Bulldogs.

woodpile
Towson is not in the same category with Yale and Penn State. And Towson killed itself by locking off Teat (I'm sure they saw it as the less painful option). Wonder what Shay's strategy will be. Teat was not faceguarded in the ILT championship game and he wreaked havoc on the Bulldogs.

While the lock-of will reduce Teat’s numbers, it won’t be as effective this year because we have more weapons on offense, especially with Piatelli’s emergence as a dodger and feeder. Even being locked-off Teat “only” got 4 points.

Clearly the best offense we’ve had since the 2013 FF team.

billhoward

upprdeck
but the last last penalty cornell had the ball in offensive end and then something was called..

too many penalties, not sure which is worse to have that or no wins on the X

Box score says that in addition to scoring 8-0-8 (on 10 shots), Clarke Petterson was also 3-03:00 on penalties. Trying to remember: Does college lacrosse still eject a player for five personal fouls?

From the 2019 NCAA Rule Book

Fouling Out

SECTION 12. Any player who accumulates five minutes of personal fouls shall be
disqualified from the game. A substitute for that player may enter the game when
the disqualified player would have been permitted to re-enter had he not fouled out.
An individual who accumulates five minutes of personal fouls and/or is disqualified
is neither expelled from the competition or spectator areas, nor suspended for a
subsequent game(s).

USILA POLLS March 4 2019
Rank    School          Psts/1st WL     Last week
1	Towson	        373(14) 4-0	7      Def Jacksonville 15-13, L Cornell 18-11
2	Loyola Maryland	333	4-1	1      L Duke 12-7 
3	Cornell  	324 (4)	3-0	3      L Penn State 19-13, def Towson 18-11
4	Yale    	315	2-1	4      Def Michigan 17-11 
5	Duke	        297 (1)	5-1	6      Def Loyola Md 12-7
6	Penn State	296	4-1	5
7	Maryland	264	5-1	2
8	Denver	        233	4-1	8
9	Ohio State	226	5-0	9
10	Notre Dame	216	2-1	12
(Records through March 3)

So what happens to the polls tomorrow? Towson made a huge jump from 7th to 1st then seems headed back down. Loyola now has 2 losses. Yale's win vs. Michigan was the first that wasn't a one-point win or loss in overtime (one of each) or regulation (vs. Penn State). First and second places will likely be vacated. Be hard for
Cornell to be #1 after a big loss to #6 Penn State. Be hard for Yale to be #1 based on only one game decided by more than one goal. Maybe give it to Duke: wins by margins of 4 to 10 goals plus one 1-goal win Denver and a 13-9 loss to #13 High Point. Rank it 1 Duke, 2 Yale, 3 Cornell, 4 Penn State? Outgoing #1 Towson got clobbered and #2 Loyola now has 2 losses. Maybe Maryland after a 14-9 win at Albany will reclaim one of the top three spots.

My guess for the top 5 is: Duke, Yale, Penn St., Maryland, Cornell

start the poll at 2

Lacrosse media poll 3/11. Cornell was #2, now #3, and our loss to Penn State helps them to the #1 ranking. Our win Sunday drops Towson from 1 to 5. USILA results pending; Cornell was #3 last week.

Rank     Team (record)          Votes (1sts)   Last week
1	 Penn State (6 - 1)	517 (14)	4 
2	 Duke (6 - 1)	        496 (5)	        6 
3	 Cornell (4 - 1)	471 (3)	        2 
4	 Yale (3 - 1)	        446 (4)	        4
5	 Towson (5 - 1)	        418	        1 
6	 Maryland (6 - 1)	408 (1)	        7 
7	 Notre Dame (3 - 1)	380	       10 
8	 Loyola (4 - 2)	        359	        3 
9	 Ohio State (6 - 0)	358	        9
10	 High Point (6 - 1)	290	       12

USILA checks in. Cornell is 4 not 3. Yale sneaks ahead of Cornell.

Rank    Team            Points  W-L     Last week
1	Penn State (12)	385	6-1	6
2	Duke (3)	365	6-1	5
3	Yale (4)	357	3-1	4
4	Cornell (1)	334	4-1	3
5	Towson	        316	5-1	1
6	Maryland	301	6-1	7
7	Notre Dame	274	3-1	10
8	Ohio State	260	6-0	9
9	Loyola Maryland	255	4-2	2
10	Denver	        198	4-2	8
11	Virginia	197	4-2	12
12	High Point	187	6-1	13
13	Syracuse	180	3-2	15
14	Georgetown	121	6-1	18
15	North Carolina	86	4-2	19
16	Rutgers	        64	4-2	N/R
17	Johns Hopkins	55	2-3	17
18	Army West Point	54	4-2	16
19	Villanova	37	3-3	11
20	Lehigh	        33	3-3	N/R
Others receiving votes: UMass 32, Richmond 30, Navy 22, Colgate 14, Hobart 12, Penn 11, Princeton 8, Delaware 2, Drexel 1

3 top 5 teams in a row on the schedule, good chance ND is there by the time we see them too, if Syracuse goes on a run after Duke they might get back there too.

No one complains this year about a weak Cornell SOS. We're playing / played: 1, 4, 5, 7, 13, 20 and three also-got-votes. I thought Albany had votes when we played them. We missed out dropping Colgate (for this year only?) for St. Bonaventure, a D1 newcomer. Army is back in the top 20 and I miss that series. But how do you know several years in advance if it's better to play Stony Brook or Albany, West Point or Hofstra or Colgate?

Also Lehigh vs. Bucknell? I prefer playing playing Lehigh because every time I see the "Battle of the 'Nells" headline, I have the urge to bitch-slip whoever was responsible.

Rank    Team            Points  W-L     Last week
1	Penn State (12)	385	6-1	6
2	Duke (3)	365	6-1	5
3	Yale (4)	357	3-1	4
4	Cornell (1)	334	4-1	3
5	Towson	        316	5-1	1
6	Maryland	301	6-1	7
7	Notre Dame	274	3-1	10
8	Ohio State	260	6-0	9
9	Loyola Maryland	255	4-2	2
10	Denver	        198	4-2	8
11	Virginia	197	4-2	12
12	High Point	187	6-1	13
13	Syracuse	180	3-2	15
14	Georgetown	121	6-1	18
15	North Carolina	86	4-2	19
16	Rutgers	        64	4-2	N/R
17	Johns Hopkins	55	2-3	17
18	Army West Point	54	4-2	16
19	Villanova	37	3-3	11
20	Lehigh	        33	3-3	N/R[/b
Others receiving votes: UMass 32, Richmond 30, Navy 22, Colgate 14, Hobart 12, Penn 11, Princeton 8, Delaware 2, Drexel 1

I prefer Lehigh because I work with a few Lehigh alums - and the field is only about 10 miles from me.

Jeff Hopkins '82
I prefer Lehigh because I work with a few Lehigh alums - and the field is only about 10 miles from me.

Isn't there some sort of emoluments clause prohibiting such shameless promotion of self-interest on this board?

You don't see other people promoting opponents, such as Bryant, Ohio State, or Rutgers, based solely on proximity to their places of residence.

Swampy

Jeff Hopkins '82
I prefer Lehigh because I work with a few Lehigh alums - and the field is only about 10 miles from me.

Isn't there some sort of emoluments clause prohibiting such shameless promotion of self-interest on this board?

You don't see other people promoting opponents, such as Bryant, Ohio State, or Rutgers, based solely on proximity to their places of residence.

I make no money from having a game at Lehigh

But I'd do Rutgers. That's drivable, too.

FWIW, I'm watching the Lehigh-Rutgers game right now.

Can anyone explain why at [laxbytes.com] Princeton has the highest Ivy probability of winning an AQ, and Yale's is worse than everyone's but Dartmouth?

...................Total....Auto

1 Cornell........64.30 15.90

6 Yale...........51.62 13.00

12 Penn........39.21 13.50

34 Princeton..16.40 16.40

42 Harvard....15.20 15.20

49 Brown.......13.90 13.90

58 Dartmouth 12.10 12.10

nshapiro
Can anyone explain why at [laxbytes.com] Princeton has the highest Ivy probability of winning an AQ, and Yale's is worse than everyone's but Dartmouth?

...................Total....Auto

1 Cornell........64.30 15.90

6 Yale...........51.62 13.00

12 Penn........39.21 13.50

34 Princeton..16.40 16.40

42 Harvard....15.20 15.20

49 Brown.......13.90 13.90

58 Dartmouth 12.10 12.10

And BTW, how does Fanlax come up with the points it uses to rank teams? And what on earth do its ratings mean?

I received an email stating that chapter 2 of "The Season" is now available. I just looked at the Florida women's results--they are only 3-5? Yikes--should make for an interesting chapter 2. (grumbling for the Cornell men's team too if chapter 2 covers the Penn State and Yale game)

djk26
I received an email stating that chapter 2 of "The Season" is now available. I just looked at the Florida women's results--they are only 3-5? Yikes--should make for an interesting chapter 2. (grumbling for the Cornell men's team too if chapter 2 covers the Penn State and Yale game)

Available where? I searched ESPNU's listings for the next week or so and didn't see it on the schedule, and I assumed it wouldn't be on ESPN+.

It has already aired, probably twice.
Watching it I had no idea Fla was doing that badly. It does show some close losses to really good teams, but never mentions their record.

The Charleston tournament is included. I won't discuss any spoilers, in case you don't know the results

check the cornell sports twitter - they tweeted out a link

Now available online, and well worth watching:

[theseason2019.com]

i watched the first on on ESPN,, the 2nd one never showed on the schedule just 100 replays of the lax preseason show.

It is not uniquely labelled in my listings. I had to set my DVR to record all replays so that I would catch it. the description did not change from the first episode.

nshapiro
It is not uniquely labelled in my listings. I had to set my DVR to record all replays so that I would catch it. the description did not change from the first episode.

Exactly the same here as well.

[www.insidelacrosse.com]

With losses to his #2 and #3 teams, and wins over everybody else, including his #6 team, Quint ranks Cornell 13!!!

Anybody know why he hates Cornell?

nshapiro
[www.insidelacrosse.com]

With losses to his #2 and #3 teams, and wins over everybody else, including his #6 team, Quint ranks Cornell 13!!!

Anybody know why he hates Cornell?

He's been that way as long as I can remember.

Maybe he just figures if they cant win faceoffs how many games can they win

I find it hard to argue that Cornell is a top ten team, right now. They can be, but they must improve in certain areas. It's hard to argue with the negatives that Quint points out (emphasis added):

Quint Kessenich, insidelacrosse.com
The Big Red had no answers for FOGO TD Ierlan and attackmen Matt Brandau and Matt Gaudet in a Saturday conference setback. Early shooting woes and a net loss in possessions were too much to overcome. Cornell is still very much a work in progress..Jeff Teat needs more touches. The first midfield shot 1-11. Big Red needs dodging threats who draw doubles. The team defense must tighten up, they are getting shredded. Cornell entered the game with the No. 39-rated defense on a possession and SOS-based model. The Big Red play St. Bonaventure and Penn this week.

Penn is much better than expected and will be a tough game this Saturday. I don't want to overlook St. Bonaventure, but if Cornell loses to team that has zero Division I wins in their history, then...

Here are the positives for Cornell, as per QK:

Quint Kessenich, insidelacrosse.com
The positives: they can ride, pass the rock well, they form a wicked man-up (4-for-6) and give great effort. John Piatelli (4G, 1A) and Clarke Petterson (4, 2) stood out.

djk26
I find it hard to argue that Cornell is a top ten team, right now. They can be, but they must improve in certain areas. It's hard to argue with the negatives that Quint points out (emphasis added):

Quint Kessenich, insidelacrosse.com
The Big Red had no answers for FOGO TD Ierlan and attackmen Matt Brandau and Matt Gaudet in a Saturday conference setback. Early shooting woes and a net loss in possessions were too much to overcome. Cornell is still very much a work in progress..Jeff Teat needs more touches. The first midfield shot 1-11. Big Red needs dodging threats who draw doubles. The team defense must tighten up, they are getting shredded. Cornell entered the game with the No. 39-rated defense on a possession and SOS-based model. The Big Red play St. Bonaventure and Penn this week.

Penn is much better than expected and will be a tough game this Saturday. I don't want to overlook St. Bonaventure, but if Cornell loses to team that has zero Division I wins in their history, then...

Here are the positives for Cornell, as per QK:

Quint Kessenich, insidelacrosse.com
The positives: they can ride, pass the rock well, they form a wicked man-up (4-for-6) and give great effort. John Piatelli (4G, 1A) and Clarke Petterson (4, 2) stood out.

Not sure how any rational observer could rank Cornell well below a Towson team that it crushed.

upprdeck
Maybe he just figures if they cant win faceoffs how many games can they win

And he’d be right. We are terrible in a very important aspect of the game.

djk26
I don't want to overlook St. Bonaventure, but if Cornell loses to team that has zero Division I wins in their history, then...

5-0 in the first quarter, Cornell hasn't lost a faceoff yet. You can probably relax.

ugarte

djk26
I don't want to overlook St. Bonaventure, but if Cornell loses to team that has zero Division I wins in their history, then...

5-0 in the first quarter, Cornell hasn't lost a faceoff yet. You can probably relax.

Bonnies are just outmatched today.

mike1960

ugarte

djk26
I don't want to overlook St. Bonaventure, but if Cornell loses to team that has zero Division I wins in their history, then...

5-0 in the first quarter, Cornell hasn't lost a faceoff yet. You can probably relax.

Bonnies are just outmatched today.

Truth be told the Bonnies right now are a mid-level DIII team at best.

scoop85

mike1960

ugarte

djk26
I don't want to overlook St. Bonaventure, but if Cornell loses to team that has zero Division I wins in their history, then...

5-0 in the first quarter, Cornell hasn't lost a faceoff yet. You can probably relax.

Bonnies are just outmatched today.

Truth be told the Bonnies right now are a mid-level DIII team at best.

It will be a different story when those freshman become seniors.

I realize that it was against terrible competition, but JJ Lombardi looked pretty good yesterday. Any chance he can get some more playing time? Depth is always a good thing, and I never understand why freshmen don't seem to make the field in lacrosse. It's not that way in hockey.

I also can't complain about that list, the Towson ranking being somewhat anomalous- they're getting a lot of mileage out of their wins over Loyola and JHU. But Towson aside, and maybe High Point that ranking looks OK to me. Other than those two teams, who do you think we deserve to be ahead of?

I think the Yale loss looked worse than it was - as pointed out on that game thread the defense was uncoordinated and left Gaudet too open. There were a couple of bad luck garbage goals from in close that Ierlan had no chance against. The offense was mishandling a lot of balls- fumbled passes that, while recovered, lost our usual ball movement advantage.

We need Ws against Notre Dame and Syracuse, if we get those I think we can have two routes to the Tournament. I would not be surprised to see a determined Princeton team coming off a loss to Penn, beat Yale this weekend. I'm shocked they aren't in Quint's top 20, but that seems based on W-L record and not how well they've played in losses to strong teams.

djk26
I realize that it was against terrible competition, but JJ Lombardi looked pretty good yesterday. Any chance he can get some more playing time? Depth is always a good thing, and I never understand why freshmen don't seem to make the field in lacrosse. It's not that way in hockey.

JJ is good, and will be a star. Would like to see him more.

Some freshmen see the field but it's highly player specific, roster specific, and coach specific. Current Cornell players who have seen significant minutes as freshmen included Teat (of course) Donville, Piatelli, Ierlan, Adler, Buczek, Doria, Licciardi, Bardwell, Tria, Racimovicz, Fletcher, Telesco, Teixiera, Salvatore, Rupp, Petterson, McCulloch, Bray, Wallace, and Ward.

List derived from season individual statistics from lax website. I think because the rosters are so large and the flow of players in and out or spot shifts it's just not as recognizable.

Cornell climbs to 8 from 10 in media poll, with Syracuse and Notre Dame to play this week. Penn State now has all of the first-place votes. Team on Cornell's schedule in bold.

Division I Media Poll
Rank	Team	                Points	Prev
1	 Penn State (9 - 1)	520(26)	1
2	 Loyola (8 - 2)	        471	2
3	 Maryland (9 - 2)	458	3
4	 Virginia (9 - 2)	436	4
5	 Yale (7 - 2)	        418	5
6	 Penn (6 - 3)	        390	6
7	 Duke (9 - 3)	        377	8 
8	 Cornell (7 - 3)	314	10 
9	 Syracuse (6 - 3)	304	11 
10	 Notre Dame (5 - 4)	270	 7 
11	 Towson (7 - 3)	        257	12 
12	 Ohio State (7 - 2)	251	 9 
13	 High Point (9 - 2)	225	14 
14	 Villanova (7 - 4)	161	22 
15	 Denver (6 - 4)	        132	13 
16	 Johns Hopkins (6 - 4)	128	21 
17	 Lehigh (7 - 4)	        104	15 
18	 North Carolina (7 - 4)	77	19 
19	 UMass (7 - 4)	        43	17 
20	 Army (8 - 3)	        30	16 
Receiving Votes: Delaware, Richmond, Rutgers, Boston University, Georgetown, Marquette, Princeton, Mount St Mary's.

Coaches' poll TK.

Thanks for posting that, Bill, and bolding Cornell's opponents. You have to give the coaches (Coach Pete in particular) a lot of credit for putting together such a strong schedule for Cornell this year. If we had beaten Penn I'd feel much better about the season--as it is we are are probably one loss away from losing any chance at an at-large bid. As I type that it seems a little too bleak so I hope am wrong about that.

who knows where at large will go.. there will by about 8? almost everyone below us has 3-4 losses too and many will end up with 5-6. we split with ND and only lose to penn/yale in ivy we have a pretty solid resume.

those teams in the ACC will almost all get 1 more loss too and they are all the teams in the at large pool..

too Yale lost to Vill

if we come out of this week at 8-4 at worst and then beat prince/brown i think 10-5 or 11-5 gets us in. 2 top 10 wins and 5 top 10 losses . if we lose both this week probably need to beat penn or yale.

Latest episode of The Season is very informative about the coach and team this year, but depressing too.

I'd never seen this before. Yikes. [url=

FINAL: Brother Rice-41 Anchor Bay-0

— Brother Rice Lacrosse (@BrotherRice_Lax) May 19, 2017

][/url]

Trotsky
I'd never seen this before.

let's try that again

I knew about that one. Or, for that matter.

Trotsky
I knew about that one. Or, for that matter.

37 spectators. Where did they play the game? Meehan?

Interesting chart showing tournament probabilities:

[laxbytes.com]

Cornell #3 in SOS; #1 in average RPI of losses; two significant wins (ND and Towson); no significant losses.

Al DeFlorio
Interesting chart showing tournament probabilities:

[laxbytes.com]

Cornell #3 in SOS; #1 in average RPI of losses; two significant wins (ND and Towson); no significant losses.

Sometimes logic does not seem to matter in these kinds of things. Let's hope it does this time.

ND is in an interesting spot and they are one team in the mix with us..

6-5 with UNC left, they lose that and the first ACC game they cant get in at 6-7.

i they go 1-1 will they take a 7-6 ND team over us if we go 2-1 and finish 10-5 and beat ND?
UNC if they lose to ND goes to 7-6

JH probably goes to 6-7 with the b10 tourney left

how would Towson get in ahead of us losing 18-11 to us and only the loyola win as a good one
Denver will have only 1 good win if they dont win out and one one of Vill/Denver has to lose too

Mt st marys wont get in ahead of us without winning that league

we are in pretty good shape if the B10 top 3 win the title and UNC/ND dont win the acc and finish with 3 quality wins

From this week's Inside Lacrosse's "Quint's Top 20"

Quint Kessenich

10. Cornell An unimpressive loss in the Dome highlights Cornell's issues. When you can't win a face-off and your defense resembles Swiss cheese, you're not going to beat quality opponents. The Big Red got pushed around during 50/50 groundballs. The close defense got run by; they don't have a No. 1 cover man. Sloppy passes are costly when your possession margin is slim. Time of possession was scarce. Shot selection was poor. Jeff Teat (2A) and Clarke Petterson (2A) were blanked.

A Sunday bounce-back win against Notre Dame was essential to stay in the hunt for an at-large bid and will be a launching pad for the stretch run. Big Red defended, they scrapped for face-offs and groundballs. They maximized possessions. Chayse Ierlan made 17 stops. Cornell is in desperation mode. Sometimes teams need to go there to maximize their focus.

I don't usually put much stake in QK's opinions of Cornell Lacrosse, but this one seems right on the money.

USILA polls: [www.ncaa.com]

1. Penn State
2. Maryland was 3
3. Duke was 6
4. Yale was 5
5. Penn was 7 
...
 9. Syracuse was 11 beats Cornell +2 spots
10. Cornell was 10 loses to Syracuse, beats Notre Dame
11. Notre Dame was 12 loses to Cornell +1 spot

Inside Lacrosse poll [www.ncaa.com] has Cornell dropping from 8 to 10 but Notre Dame drops 2 to 12 and Syracuse climes 2 to 7.

Cornell-Brown game televised on NESN Saturday.

Of this week's top ten in the USILA polls, their rankings on team faceoff percentage (not in poll order) include:

1
11
12
13
15
17
28
30
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Where's Cornell? 10th in the polls and 67th (of 73 teams) in faceoffs. How bad are Cornell's faceoff stats? Every team in the top 10 has a winning faceoff percentage except Loyola at .496 (rounds to 50%) and Cornell at .365. The difference from first to ninth is .275 and the difference between ninth and tenth is another .131. I would like to see the imputed goal value of each faceoff won.

USILA Top 10 Teams      Records    F/O  (rank)
 1. Penn State          10-1       .594 (15)   .694 25x36 vs. Cornell (PSU F/O pct.)       
 2. Maryland            10-2       .598 (13)
 3. Duke                10-3       .530 (30) 
 4. Yale                 8-2       .771 ( 1)   .800  24X30 vs. Cornell
 5. Penn                 7-3       .600 (12)   .606  24x33 vs. Cornell  
 6. Virginia             9-3       .552 (28)       
 7. Ohio State           8-2       .585 (17)
 8. Loyola Md.           9-3       .496 (35)
 9. Syracuse             8-3       .607 (11)   .680  17x25 vs. Cornell
10. Cornell              8-4       .365 (67)  

Teams F/O Pecentage .600 or Higher
Teams .600 or Higher               F/O  (rank) 
13. Towson                         .771 ( 2)  .813  26x32 vs. Cornell
HM  Lehigh                         .682 ( 4)  .667  18x27 vs. Cornell
NR  Holy Cross                     .641 ( 5)
NR  Cleveland State                .624 ( 6)
NR  Hobart                         .622 ( 7)  .639  22x39 vs. Cornell
15  UMass                          .617 ( 8)
NR  St Joseph's                    .612 ( 9)
NR  Hampton                        .611 (10)

The teams below Cornell on faceoffs have records of
3-8
9-3 (Army, 17th in the 4/15 poll.)
2-9
4-9
4-9
0-12 St. Bonaventure .240 (.200 vs. Cornell)

And yet we're in the top ten.

Interesting though that the top 10 in FO don't dominate the poll. Apparently it's neither necessary (Duke, Loyola, Cornell) nor sufficient (Lehigh, Holy Cross, Hobart).

Trotsky
Interesting though that the top 10 in FO don't dominate the poll. Apparently it's neither necessary (Duke, Loyola, Cornell) nor sufficient (Lehigh, Holy Cross, Hobart).

To win games against quality opponents, I think there is a necessity to get around 50 percent.

Trotsky
Interesting though that the top 10 in FO don't dominate the poll. Apparently it's neither necessary (Duke, Loyola, Cornell) nor sufficient (Lehigh, Holy Cross, Hobart).

If Ierlan transferred to Cornell instead of Yale I think we're a runaway #1. Wins over Towson and Notre Dame and a one-goal loss to Penn with a huge possession disadvantage say a lot about what the offense is like. The defense is taking a lot of understandable crap, but they are constantly on their heels due to the problems at the X.

ugarte

Trotsky
Interesting though that the top 10 in FO don't dominate the poll. Apparently it's neither necessary (Duke, Loyola, Cornell) nor sufficient (Lehigh, Holy Cross, Hobart).

If Ierlan transferred to Cornell instead of Yale I think we're a runaway #1. Wins over Towson and Notre Dame and a one-goal loss to Penn with a huge possession disadvantage say a lot about what the offense is like. The defense is taking a lot of understandable crap, but they are constantly on their heels due to the problems at the X.

It sounds like it's important like goaltending in hockey. You don't need an All-American to challenge for the title but (1) it helps a lot and (2) you can't have an utter deficient in there either.

5-10 more possessions mean a lot for a team that shoots as well as Cornell does.. added to that a few less possessions by the Opp probably means a few less penalties and that helps the D as well..