Cornell lacrosse 2018

djk26
Quint said it was "step down city" against Dartmouth. What are "step downs" in lacrosse? It has something to do with "sliding"? (another term I do not fully understand)

Middies up top stepping in towards the cage and firing away - given the amount of attention the defense is paying to Teat down low

djk26
Quint said it was "step down city" against Dartmouth. What are "step downs" in lacrosse? It has something to do with "sliding"? (another term I do not fully understand)

What he said about step down shooting: [www.youtube.com]

Sliding is about defenders picking up an opposing player when (a) another defender is beaten or (b) there's some other reason for unmarked attacking players being in the defensive zone of the sliding team (e.g., on a fast break, which will typically bring unguarded players into the other team's defensive zone): [www.youtube.com]

Thank you. "up top" is away from the cage, and "down low" is near the cage?

A very premature bracketology slots Cornell at an 8-seed:

[www.uslaxmagazine.com]

djk26
Quint said it was "step down city" against Dartmouth. What are "step downs" in lacrosse? It has something to do with "sliding"? (another term I do not fully understand)

From what I can tell it means taking a step (or 2) towards the target as you shoot the ball. It means you have plenty of time to get set up, and face the target, as well as get more heat on the shot. It's as opposed to moving side to side to get around a defender to take your shot.

djk26
Thank you. "up top" is away from the cage, and "down low" is near the cage?

yes.

Al DeFlorio
A very premature bracketology slots Cornell at an 8-seed:

[www.uslaxmagazine.com]

That bracket is nuts. 1) Penn gets in on SOS, even though they aren't winning the games. 2) Why do we get Duke, for God's sake? Shouldn't they go to Annapolis?

Jeff Hopkins '82

djk26
Quint said it was "step down city" against Dartmouth. What are "step downs" in lacrosse? It has something to do with "sliding"? (another term I do not fully understand)

From what I can tell it means taking a step (or 2) towards the target as you shoot the ball. It means you have plenty of time to get set up, and face the target, as well as get more heat on the shot. It's as opposed to moving side to side to get around a defender to take your shot.

Step-down shots from midfield is the lacrosse analogue to a slap shot. While players closer to the goal might also step down, their focus will be more on beating the goalie by deception or aiming at a place that's hard to block.

this team wont know what to do if we ever see decent weather.. 35 this weekend.

the SU game is at night high of 40 with rain/snow for a night game, gonna be a tough one to sit thru

upprdeck
this team wont know what to do if we ever see decent weather.. 35 this weekend.

the SU game is at night high of 40 with rain/snow for a night game, gonna be a tough one to sit thru

Well it's 15 in Minneapolis, but who'd go there?

Swampy

Jeff Hopkins '82

djk26
Quint said it was "step down city" against Dartmouth. What are "step downs" in lacrosse? It has something to do with "sliding"? (another term I do not fully understand)

From what I can tell it means taking a step (or 2) towards the target as you shoot the ball. It means you have plenty of time to get set up, and face the target, as well as get more heat on the shot. It's as opposed to moving side to side to get around a defender to take your shot.

Step-down shots from midfield is the lacrosse analogue to a slap shot. While players closer to the goal might also step down, their focus will be more on beating the goalie by deception or aiming at a place that's hard to block.

I thought a step down shot was a catch & shoot all in one motion, usually from the middies. I'd be really interested is seeing the drills that Cornell uses to practice their step-downs.

Yale loses to Bucknell in OT 9-8

upprdeck
Yale loses to Bucknell in OT 9-8

Played at Yale. Yale was down by 3 in the third, didn't tie until 1:38 left in the game, and couldn't convert on a man-up in OT.

mike1960

Swampy

Jeff Hopkins '82

djk26
Quint said it was "step down city" against Dartmouth. What are "step downs" in lacrosse? It has something to do with "sliding"? (another term I do not fully understand)

From what I can tell it means taking a step (or 2) towards the target as you shoot the ball. It means you have plenty of time to get set up, and face the target, as well as get more heat on the shot. It's as opposed to moving side to side to get around a defender to take your shot.

Step-down shots from midfield is the lacrosse analogue to a slap shot. While players closer to the goal might also step down, their focus will be more on beating the goalie by deception or aiming at a place that's hard to block.

I thought a step down shot was a catch & shoot all in one motion, usually from the middies. I'd be really interested is seeing the drills that Cornell uses to practice their step-downs.

It can be, but I think the term is more general and describes a style of shooting that puts more power into the shot. Hence, why it's typically done from midfield. It's like stepping into a pitch when batting in baseball. Or, like some slap shots are teed up but others are taken right off a pass.

Hockey has "the system." Does lacrosse now have a "methodology?"

[www.uslaxmagazine.com]

Al DeFlorio
Hockey has "the system." Does lacrosse now have a "methodology?"

[www.uslaxmagazine.com]

Quo vadis "the process"?

Trotsky

Al DeFlorio
Hockey has "the system." Does lacrosse now have a "methodology?"

[www.uslaxmagazine.com]

Quo vadis "the process"?

He's currently out with an injury. But he'll be back in the playoffs.

Webcast on ILDN: Anyone else getting muddy audio as if Schoellkopf is under water?

billhoward
Webcast on ILDN: Anyone else getting muddy audio as if Schoellkopf is under water?

ESPN -

Cornell 8-6 at the half. Harvard goes up 1-0 off the opening faceoff but Cornell clicks on offense, builds up a 4-1 lead. Harvard ties the game twice, gets three goals off Cornell penalties. Jeff Teat is awesome, has seven points (3G, 4A) on Cornell's 8 goals. Christian Knight back in goal for Cornell. Announcers say he seems to be not as sharp as they've seen him before his injury layoff. After those three 20-goal games, having only 8 at the half seems like Cornell is loafing.

Third period, only 3 goals, all Cornell. Teat is playing a lot in front of the net, at 9 points - 3G, 6A. Cornell is winning a lot of ground balls and scrums. Harvard's stud, Morgan Cheek has that opening faceoff goal plus 2 assists. He had 13 points against BU.

Fourth period. Teat cuts in front, takes pass, gets his 10th point about 2 minutes in. Sloppy final minutes, Cornell gets a couple empty net goals. Knight gets dinged midway through the period, Bullen comes in in final 2 or 3 minutes, gives up the last goal only. Teat finishes with 12 points - 4G, 8A (Cornell record is 14 points) Cornell wins 19 of 30 faceoffs. Cornell goes 0x2 on extra man, Harvard 5x7. Can't take that kind of penalties against Syracuse.

Harvard  2  4  0  5  -- 11
Cornell  4  4  3  4  -- 15 

Teat       4-8--12
Petterson  2-2-- 4
Donville   3-0-- 3

Syracuse at Cornell Tuesday. (Syracuse dnp today, beat Hobart 11-4 Tuesday)
Cornell at Lehigh next Saturday (Loyala 16, Lehigh 10 today)

In opponents news, Loyola is crushing Lehigh 10-2 in the late 3rd quarter. It was 7-0 at one point.

15-11 good guys. Final.

Jeff Hopkins '82
15-11 good guys. Final.

Great result! Have to cut down on those penalties and tighten up the man-down defense. Tuesday is going to be exciting!

billhoward
Cornell 8-6 at the half. Harvard goes up 1-0 off the opening faceoff but Cornell clicks on offense, builds up a 4-1 lead. Harvard ties the game twice, gets three goals off Cornell penalties. Jeff Teat is awesome, has seven points (3G, 4A) on Cornell's 8 goals. Christian Knight back in goal for Cornell. Announcers say he seems to be not as sharp as they've seen him before his injury layoff. After those three 20-goal games, having only 8 at the half seems like Cornell is loafing.

Third period, only 3 goals, all Cornell. Teat is playing a lot in front of the net, at 9 points - 3G, 6A. Cornell is winning a lot of ground balls and scrums. Harvard's stud, Morgan Cheek has that opening faceoff goal plus 2 assists. He had 13 points against BU.

Fourth period. Teat cuts in front, takes pass, gets his 10th point about 2 minutes in. Sloppy final minutes, Cornell gets a couple empty net goals. Knight gets dinged midway through the period, Bullen comes in in final 2 or 3 minutes, gives up the last goal only. Teat finishes with 12 points - 4G, 8A (Cornell record is 14 points) Cornell wins 19 of 30 faceoffs. Cornell goes 0x2 on extra man, Harvard 5x7. Can't take that kind of penalties against Syracuse.

Harvard  2  4  0  5  -- 11
Cornell  4  4  3  4  -- 15 

Teat       4-8--12
Petterson  2-2-- 4
Donville   3-0-- 3

Syracuse at Cornell Tuesday. (Syracuse dnp today, beat Hobart 11-4 Tuesday)
Cornell at Lehigh next Saturday (Loyala 16, Lehigh 10 today)

thanks for the recap, bill

ugarte
thanks for the recap, bill

My bad. I somehow missed this:

CornellBigRed.com
The Big Red has now won three straight games when ranked No. 13 in the USILA Coaches Poll, improving to 20-8 all-time when holding the 13th spot in the poll. [cornellbigred.com]

UMBC, slayer of Virginia in hoops, takes down #1 Albany in lax, 11-7 at home 4/7. That could've been us if we'd just held on. Inside Lacrosse headlined it, "UMBC Lacrosse's Shining Moment: Retrievers Stun No. 1 Albany."

billhoward
UMBC, slayer of Virginia in hoops, takes down #1 Albany in lax, 11-7 at home 4/7. That could've been us if we'd just held on. Inside Lacrosse headlined it, "UMBC Lacrosse's Shining Moment: Retrievers Stun No. 1 Albany."

So what you’re saying is that we could have beaten Albany if only we had won the game? Interesting theory.

RichH

billhoward
UMBC, slayer of Virginia in hoops, takes down #1 Albany in lax, 11-7 at home 4/7. That could've been us if we'd just held on. Inside Lacrosse headlined it, "UMBC Lacrosse's Shining Moment: Retrievers Stun No. 1 Albany."

So what you’re saying is that we could have beaten Albany if only we had won the game? Interesting theory.

Or if the game was longer? Shorter?

Important game against Cuse on Tuesday for NCAA selection and seeding ...

[www.youtube.com]

Among his many skills, Jeff Teat has terrific field vision. It seems every time he is able to spot the open man and hit the cross with a perfect pass. He could help this team go a long long way.

Cornell climbs from 10 to 9 in the media poll, Syracuse from 8 to 7 [www.insidelacrosse.com]

Also:
Maryland replaces now-beaten Albany at 1.
Yale (lost in OT to Bucknell midweek) falls 3 to 6.
Lehigh (hosts Cornell Saturday) falls 17 to 18.
Harvard, Brown, Penn also receive votes.

billhoward
Cornell climbs from 10 to 9 in the media poll, Syracuse from 8 to 7 [www.insidelacrosse.com]

Also:
Maryland replaces now-beaten Albany at 1.
Yale (lost in OT to Bucknell midweek) falls 3 to 6.
Lehigh (hosts Cornell Saturday) falls 17 to 18.
Harvard, Brown, Penn also receive votes.

#7 with Quint; 'Cuse #8.

If cornell brings the A game I think they win this game easily. as long as the D doesnt take the same bad penalties as they did vs Harvard I dont think SU can score 10+ and i will be shocked if Cornell doesnt get there without just being crazy sloppy which they were at times last week. the weather may help cornell as we have played most of our games in this stuff and SU has played in the Dome or warm weather games almost all season long.

too bad its a night game and cold it will probably keep the crowd down.. not sure why this wasnt a 5pm start so there would be a decent amount of sun if there is any to be had. its gonne be cold once that sun goes down.

Post-Standard on Syracuse's Mellen:

[www.syracuse.com]

it will be an interesting matchup.. some teams have taken him away and cornell has been ok with that . teat has shown one thing most of these other guys dont do and that is he likes to be a cutter too

Knight seems to not be dressed according to reports

Do I hear (radio broadcast) a band or recording of the Star Spangled Banner? I used to enjoy the lone violin playing it.

Mike

13-8 win. I tuned in at 10-4 and got a little frustrated but they pulled it together. Must have gone well at the X early but it looked tough late.

ugarte
13-8 win. I tuned in at 10-4 and got a little frustrated but they pulled it together. Must have gone well at the X early but it looked tough late.

We won the bulk of the FO’s in the 2nd and 3rd Q when the game was really decided. Terrific job by the entire team. Statement delivered.

Pretty even at the X all night. Syracuse showed no offensive flare at all. Very good win for the Big Red. Teat had 6 points (I think). Offense was well distributed with 6 guys with 2 goals apiece.

We’ve got a “Signature win” now over a serious, top ten team. Maybe the voters give us Syracuse’s 6-spot. Assuming no letdown Saturday at Lehigh.

Bullen was terrific in goal. Great team effort in all phases. Huge implications for Cornell's shot at an at-large bid, should it be needed (and for seeding in any case).

Cornell is now playing at a very high level.

I think Cornel has the spurt in needed every game to create the separation, it had the 2-3 games it put away by half. hopefully it has a complete game when it needs to against a good team.

I dont know what to think of SU, watched almost every game. the could be top 7-8 but they also could easily be about 2-8 without a couple of late goals.

Su was very aggressive and that caused some issues, but i think teams have realized if they sit back CU will just light them up.

According to this article in the Syracuse paper, Syracuse lost the game because they were expecting Christian Knight to play goal for Cornell, and had trouble adapting to Bullen being in goal instead, because Bullen is left-handed while Knight is right-handed. This makes me wonder whether Syracuse's coaching staff had been paying attention to Cornell's recent results, since Bullen replaced Knight for the final two minutes of Cornell's game against Harvard on Saturday after Knight left the game with an apparent injury.

Bullen played the whole 2nd half against Harvard didnt he? and much of the 2 games before that. they had lots of scouting on him.

upprdeck
Bullen played the whole 2nd half against Harvard didnt he? and much of the 2 games before that. they had lots of scouting on him.

No, he came into the Harvard game just in the last 3 or so minutes.

Wofford. Woof!

dbilmes
According to this article in the Syracuse paper, Syracuse lost the game because they were expecting Christian Knight to play goal for Cornell, and had trouble adapting to Bullen being in goal instead, because Bullen is left-handed while Knight is right-handed. This makes me wonder whether Syracuse's coaching staff had been paying attention to Cornell's recent results, since Bullen replaced Knight for the final two minutes of Cornell's game against Harvard on Saturday after Knight left the game with an apparent injury.

It doesn't sounds like Solomon or Desko is saying they lost because the goalie was left handed, but that they expected a rightie. Desko says that Bullen made some great saves and that's why it wasn't 7-5 at the half, but at least according to the radio broadcast, their goalie played terrific and kept Cornell from being in double digits at the half.

Cornell hit several Pipes as well, both goalies made good saves. it probably should have been more like 10-6 at the half.

Seems like the headline/article writer took a little license to attribute any failure on Syracuse's part to seeing a lefty. I don't think the coach was connecting his surprise at the fact that a lefty was between the pipes to syracuse's trouble getting the ball past him. He made two separate points: he expected to see the righty (Knight) and the lefty (Bullen) played a great game.

Desko also made the point that if Bullen hadn't made three or four amazing saves on close-in shots the halftime score might have been 7-5 or 7-6 and Syracuse would have played differently in the second half. [Like maybe scoring more than once in the third period?]

I agree with Mike above. Madonna also made a number of fine close-in saves so it goes both ways. The fact is that Cornell had a higher percentage of close-in shots so Madonna finished with a lower save percentage. And shots were 27-19 for Cornell through the first three periods as Cornell was up by six. That decided the game. Implying that Bullen's surprising play and his "surprise" start was the difference was bullshit.

[www.insidelacrosse.com]

Lax Film Room: Why Cornell's Offense is Deadlier Than You Think (Inside Lacrosse)

To lead the country in adjusted offensive efficiency and shooting efficiency, as Cornell has done so far this season, takes more than one or two great players at attack. What makes the Cornell offense so lethal is the pairing of those Canadian attackmen with some big, fast American midfielders who crank it from the outside and can come downhill to score from either alley.

jeff '84
[www.insidelacrosse.com]

Lax Film Room: Why Cornell's Offense is Deadlier Than You Think (Inside Lacrosse)

To lead the country in adjusted offensive efficiency and shooting efficiency, as Cornell has done so far this season, takes more than one or two great players at attack. What makes the Cornell offense so lethal is the pairing of those Canadian attackmen with some big, fast American midfielders who crank it from the outside and can come downhill to score from either alley.

One of those midfielders is a Canadian who has 13 goals and as many assists, not a ratio you often see in a middie.

Don’t think this was posted yet. Teat was US Lacrosse’s player of the week for last week (looks like eLF isn’t parsing the URL correctly because of the apostrophe, so removing the “http” and you may need to cut-n-paste):
www.uslaxmagazine.com/college/players-of-the-week/cornell’s-jeff-teat-named-warrior-us-lacrosse-player-of-the-week

upprdeck
I dont know what to think of SU, watched almost every game. the could be top 7-8 but they also could easily be about 2-8 without a couple of late goals.

Syracuse's fourth-quarter run wasn't enough for Syracuse fans, but their on-target outside shooting by middies made it plenty uncomfortable for Cornell fans, especially those who sat through the 2009 title game.

Cornell @ Lehigh is on the CBS Sports Network at 2:30 PM Saturday.

CU77
Cornell @ Lehigh is on the CBS Sports Network at 2:30 PM Saturday.

Figures. First Cornell game on TV in a while and I'll be there in person.

Gorgeous 80-degree day at Lehigh. Connor Bullen in goal. Cornell has trouble on faceoffs throughout the first period. Lehigh gets the first goal, tied through 2-2 then Cornell starts to pull away. Gets to 4-2 Cornell after the first.

Gets to 6-2 early in the second before there's a Cornell score that isn't assisted or scored by Jeff Teat. Teat is 1-4. It's as if Teat looks up, sees a cutter, bam - pass, shot, goal. Cornell doing a little better on faceoffs. Lehigh switches to a zone, cuts to 6-3 on on its second man-up goal; the Hawks are deadly there. Cornell kind of stutterd through its man-ups and didn't score. A couple turnovers hurt Cornell's offensive efficiencies, half ends 6-4 Cornell. So far Lehigh is 2x2 on man-up; Cornell 0x2. Cornell is 4x12 on faceoffs.

Third period Cornell does a little better on faceoffs (now 6x18) in part by scrums for control after the ball pops away from the circle. Cornell now has 2 man-up goals, one a breakaway pass to Teat (yeah, kind of odd getting a breakaway on your own man-up) that leaves Teat and the goalie alone at the circle. Teat wins (now 2G, 4A). But Cornell still hasn't pulled away.

Fourth quarter Cornell slows down, Lehigh continues its magic on FOs and EMOs. Lehigh's Lucas Spence gets an amazing behind the back goal with < a minute to cut to 12-10 but Lehigh fails on a close shot (after controlling another faceoff) and it ends 12-10.

Lehigh's 3x3 on EMO seems like the second best opponent single-measure advantage over Cornell this year after Albany's faceoff mastery. Lehigh was more than okay on faceoffs, too, 18x25. Cornell was 2x5 on EMO and also gave up a late man-short goal. Cornell did seem to do well on ground ball scrums. If I have my stats right, each half 6 Cornell goals and Teat has only 1 second-half point, meaning either Lehigh did a better job defending Teat or their concentrating on Teat left Donville, Petterson et al more open.

Maybe this was a letdown after taking down Syracuse. The week's two wins hopefully move Cornell from #11 (USILA) into the top 10. #4 Duke beat #10 Virginia 18-13 and Penn State upset #5 Johns Hopkins 14-12. I believe rest of the top 10 won Saturday, #3 Albany DNP, #1 Maryland hosts #7 Rutgers Sunday.

In the Ivies, #8 Yale clobbered Brown 27-15 and Princeton woke from its 2018 semi-slumber with a 24-13 thrashing of Dartmouth. (Could Princeton be peaking for our game 4/28, at Cornell?) Penn broke open a one-goal game to lead Harvard 10-7 with 2:00 to play (final 11-7; Harvard can't score at the end with a 2-man advantage).

Next week: Brown at Cornell, followed by Princeton, then the Ivy playoffs at Columbia. Cornell looks to be the 2-seed assuming we beat Brown or Princeton. Yale is unbeaten in Ivies, Cornell is 3-1.

Cornell  4  2  4  2  - 12
Lehigh   2  2  2  4  - 10 

Teat       2  4  -  6
Donville   3  2  -  5
Petterson  4  0  -  4
Bullen     10GA, 10SV
Lehigh     12GA,  5SV (says the Lehigh stats)
Cor shots  23
Leh shots  32

Jeff Teat is so creative and effective. Bullen doing a great job in goal. Faceoffs not great but not terrible. Man-up offense looks flat-footed.

If cornell could figure out the EM stuff they would be deadly. strange for a team that passes so well and score so much to struggle when up a man.

upprdeck
If cornell could figure out the EM stuff they would be deadly. strange for a team that passes so well and score so much to struggle when up a man.

Almost as if Cornell should decline the man-up opportunity. Maybe Cornell looks so-so in relation to Lehigh, which is on fire on EMO.

billhoward

upprdeck
If cornell could figure out the EM stuff they would be deadly. strange for a team that passes so well and score so much to struggle when up a man.

Almost as if Cornell should decline the man-up opportunity. Maybe Cornell looks so-so in relation to Lehigh, which is on fire on EMO.

That is Lehigh's strength. The D needs to avoid penalties this half. Our defense has played really well, energetic on the switches and opportunistic. Only a single lapse that resulted in a slam dunk in front of the goal. Raz needs to settle down when he wins the faceoff and has the ball in his cross. He has made two turnovers from anxious passes.

You hang it, we'll bang it.

At first, we looked unstoppable when we had the ball (crappy faceoffs notwithstanding). That is, up until the mid-2nd. Then Lehigh switched up their defense, and all of a sudden we looked sloppy as all hell, with lots of bad passes and turnovers.

Our defense looked good but not great, Our offense looked ordinary in the 2nd half. Frankly, Bullen saved our bacon on this one. He made some great saves.

Penn St and Syracuse both win, hopefully raising the value of Cornell's wins over them as far as quality wins go. Colgate lost, making that loss worse. I thought Cornell looked a bit nonchalant at the end of the game with only a three goal lead (I recall Teat throwing the ball up with about a minute left --to me it seemed like he was acting as though the ball going back to Colgate was no big whoop.) Maybe the stumbling to the win is some ammo for the coaches to sober up the team and not get too smitten with their own press.

I don't think they were overconfident, I think they were tired. It's been a long slog of 3 tough games in 8 days.

ILT possibilities, assuming Dartmouth doesn't manage to upset either Penn or Brown:

B>C Pr>H Pe>D B>D Pr>C Y>H: Y,B,(C,Pe,Pr)
B>C Pr>H Pe>D B>D Pr>C H>Y: Y,B,(C,Pe,Pr)
B>C Pr>H Pe>D B>D C>Pr Y>H: Y,B,C,Pe
B>C Pr>H Pe>D B>D C>Pr H>Y: Y,B,C,Pe

B>C H>Pr Pe>D B>D Pr>C Y>H: Y,B,C,Pe
B>C H>Pr Pe>D B>D Pr>C H>Y: Y,H,B,C
B>C H>Pr Pe>D B>D C>Pr Y>H: Y,B,C,Pe
B>C H>Pr Pe>D B>D C>Pr H>Y: Y,H,B,C

C>B Pr>H Pe>D B>D Pr>C Y>H: Y,C,B,Pe
C>B Pr>H Pe>D B>D Pr>C H>Y: Y,C,B,Pe
C>B Pr>H Pe>D B>D C>Pr Y>H: Y,C,B,Pe
C>B Pr>H Pe>D B>D C>Pr H>Y: Y,C,H,B

C>B H>Pr Pe>D B>D Pr>C Y>H: Y,C,(B,H,Pe)
C>B H>Pr Pe>D B>D Pr>C H>Y: Y,C,H,B
C>B H>Pr Pe>D B>D C>Pr Y>H: Y,C,(B,H,Pe)
C>B H>Pr Pe>D B>D C>Pr H>Y: Y,C,H,B

Summary: Yale has clinched the #1 seed. A Cornell win over Brown will clinch the #2 seed. There is still a chance of being left out entirely if Cornell loses both remaining Ivy games. (Three teams in parentheses means there is a tie that will be broken by random draw.)

JasonN95
Penn St and Syracuse both win, hopefully raising the value of Cornell's wins over them as far as quality wins go. Colgate lost, making that loss worse. I thought Cornell looked a bit nonchalant at the end of the game with only a three goal lead (I recall Teat throwing the ball up with about a minute left --to me it seemed like he was acting as though the ball going back to Colgate was no big whoop.) Maybe the stumbling to the win is some ammo for the coaches to sober up the team and not get too smitten with their own press.

He did, but there was 3 seconds left on the shot clock, and there was a delayed penalty on Lehigh. So his tossing the ball in the air wasn't critical. We were getting it back. Either he wanted a rest for the offense, or they wanted a change they couldn't make on the fly because of the shot clock.

Yale has the 1-seed because it only has one Ivy game left, not two, it's unbeaten, and it holds the RS tiebreaker vs. Cornell. Next week Yale hosts Albany.

Cornell is up three spots to #6: [www.insidelacrosse.com]

Jake Pulver in a very close vote for the Senior CLASS Award; vote every day!

[www.seniorclassaward.com]

Quint Kessenich puts Cornell at #6. According to him:

Quint Kessenich, insidelacrosse.com
Cornell hosts Brown State on Saturday, April 21.

Brown State may be tough...I don't know that Cornell has ever played them before.

djk26
Quint Kessenich puts Cornell at #6. According to him:

Quint Kessenich, insidelacrosse.com
Cornell hosts Brown State on Saturday, April 21.

Brown State may be tough...I don't know that Cornell has ever played them before.

In the playoffs might we be lucky enough to host Fugue State.

djk26
Quint Kessenich puts Cornell at #6. According to him:

Quint Kessenich, insidelacrosse.com
Cornell hosts Brown State on Saturday, April 21.

Brown State may be tough...I don't know that Cornell has ever played them before.

https://www.uslacrosse.org/blog/brown-state-honoring-a-tradition

Swampy
[www.uslacrosse.org]

Lars Tiffany, former head lacrosse coach at Brown
Brown State.
It’s a nickname for the Brown University men’s lacrosse team that traces its roots back to the late 1960s and 1970s.
“It’s sort of evolved into the mindset and the attitude we play with,” said Lars Tiffany, the current head coach at Brown, and a 1990 graduate of the Ivy League school. “Blue-collar, edgy, tough. When someone plays Brown, we want them to remember what it feels like to play us.”

Thanks for this link, Swampy--I did not know about this. Still, Ivy League lacrosse players referring to themselves as "blue collar"? I renew my Also, Brown is not a state school. And Cornell is (at least half of it.)

djk26

Swampy
[www.uslacrosse.org]

Lars Tiffany, former head lacrosse coach at Brown
Brown State.
It’s a nickname for the Brown University men’s lacrosse team that traces its roots back to the late 1960s and 1970s.
“It’s sort of evolved into the mindset and the attitude we play with,” said Lars Tiffany, the current head coach at Brown, and a 1990 graduate of the Ivy League school. “Blue-collar, edgy, tough. When someone plays Brown, we want them to remember what it feels like to play us.”

Thanks for this link, Swampy--I did not know about this. Still, Ivy League lacrosse players referring to themselves as "blue collar"? I renew my Also, Brown is not a state school. And Cornell is (at least half of it.)

You're welcome, but I have the feeling of deja vu all over again. Cornell has four colleges under contract with NY State. I believe they are legally private colleges and not subject to all of the same rules as actual state schools in the SUNY system are. It is true, however, that the NY State legislature established Cornell University as the state's land-grant university.

OTOH, Brown was under a similar arrangement with Rhode Island as the state's land-grant, as was Yale with Connecticut. Dartmouth had a different arrangement and only partnered with UNH to fulfill the land-grant mission; this was because Dartmouth didn't want to risk diluting its earlier mission of educating native Americans. Rhode Island continues to subsidize Brown, particularly its med school. I believe MIT and Cornell are the only land-grant institution that are still private.

I don't know if the "Brown State" nickname has anything to do with this longer history.

Swampy
I don't know if the "Brown State" nickname has anything to do with this longer history.

Presumably it is just Upper Class Twit conceit ("We're makin' it look mean. We'll name ourselves after the Poors. How droll!" ). The school was founded as Rhode Island College and renamed in 1804 after some shitbird with slave money.

lax.com highlight video of the Cuse game:

[www.youtube.com]

So I went to the online Ithaca Journal site looking to see what was being written about this year's CU lacrosse team and....the two top stories were of the CU men's hockey team NCAA tournament game against BU. See no need to keep up and running if you can't keep the news current.

The Ivy League has announced new tie-breaking rules for the ILT:

[www.ivyleaguesports.com]

Bottom line: Cornell has already clinched a spot unless they (1) lose to Brown and (2) lose to Princeton by 6 or more goals. (And they may get in even then, depending on other scores.)

Did the old method use goal differential? If not, it seems like this sort of change should be announced before the season starts as teams may now play the end of a game differently (team with lead trying to score vs happy to run out the clock).

No, goal differential was not used in the past. AFAIK the public announcement of the new procedures was just made.

And after further analysis, Cornell is in! (Even if they lose to Brown and/or Princeton, by any goal margin in either game.)

win out to the ivy and pretty good case for an at large NCAA.. lose to brown/prin and it becomes dicy.

so the espn+ network is up and running.. i see the princeton game is scheduled but not the brown game.. so you could cancel your subscription after sat if you have espn+

do we know if the ivy playoff is on tv someplace?

found it.. espnu..

there are a couple other games on espn+ though

albany - yale

but after that unless you want to watch soccer/cricket not much value until fall.

How does espn+ work exactly? What if you already get espn and some of its more exotic variants, such as espnu, through a cable subscription?

I've looked a few places on the Web, and they say it's like HBO Now. But when faced with HBO Now vs adding HBO to my cable package, it made more sense to subscribe to the cable package. Espn+, however, seems entirely separate from the ESPN cable package.

If so, this business model seems a bit weird. (1) They're still selling advertising on espn+, so why truncate the viewing audience. (2) Why not offer a bundle of ESPN cable + discounted espn+ to capture a larger market?

watch espn is somehting most people pay for thru their internet provider/TV provider.. this is additional money they can earn by showing other stuff. it actually has some stuff with no commercial interruptions.. its very soccer heavy. but just the fact you can get all the ivy games for $50 a year its a bargain.

i do wonder what it does to the espn college extra package directv has. if the games would show up there without extra streaming that would be sweet.

Spectrum is the new face of Time Warner since their buyout. I had a sports tier package on Time Warner that was $12 per month. It included the Fox sports stations and a lot more. When transitioning to a Spectrum package I tried to wean myself off the sports tier for the summer.

Instead the rep gave me the Silver package free for a year to feed my addiction. It includes a bunch of ESPN stations but today I noticed I don't get the Fox and BTN channels.

Yet friend is paying something like $12 per month just to get the Golf channel!?!

Choice is a bitch.

But I am looking forward to ESPN+.

Big game against Brown at 1 PM on Saturday: a win clinches the #2 seed in the ILT, it's Senior Day, and the storied players from the 76-77-78 "streak" teams will be honored at half-time.

And if you haven't seen this yet ...

Lacrosse player overcomes history of ailments to captain Big Red

[news.cornell.edu]

Vote every day!
[www.seniorclassaward.com]

CU77
Big game against Brown at 1 PM on Saturday: a win clinches the #2 seed in the ILT, it's Senior Day, and the storied players from the 76-77-78 "streak" teams will be honored at half-time.

And if you haven't seen this yet ...

Lacrosse player overcomes history of ailments to captain Big Red

[news.cornell.edu]

Vote every day!
[www.seniorclassaward.com]

Great story. I didn't know much about it. Very inspiring.

But here's one thing the Cornell Chronicle story leaves out that I've read elsewhere. Jake was visiting Yale when he got the call from Cornell's coaches saying they wanted him. He immediately accepted and went to tell the Yale coaches he would be going to Cornell.

In a world where everyday I wake up and mutter to myself, "you can't make this stuff up," usually thinking about the latest sleazy, treasonous, and/or unbelievably stupid thing coming over the news, it's really great to have a story that falls into the believe-it-or-not category but is as inspiring as this one.

It makes me feel the least I can do is set a reminder to vote every day. With a story like this, it's hard to imagine how anyone wouldn't select Jake.

Thanks for posting this, CU77.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say the history of Brown upsets might be over today.

Our snots are beating their snots 13-3 in the third and I'm not sure Brown is trying. Actually I'm not sure we're trying.

Swampy

CU77
Big game against Brown at 1 PM on Saturday: a win clinches the #2 seed in the ILT, it's Senior Day, and the storied players from the 76-77-78 "streak" teams will be honored at half-time.

And if you haven't seen this yet ...

Lacrosse player overcomes history of ailments to captain Big Red

[news.cornell.edu]

Vote every day!
[www.seniorclassaward.com]

Great story. I didn't know much about it. Very inspiring.

But here's one thing the Cornell Chronicle story leaves out that I've read elsewhere. Jake was visiting Yale when he got the call from Cornell's coaches saying they wanted him. He immediately accepted and went to tell the Yale coaches he would be going to Cornell.

In a world where everyday I wake up and mutter to myself, "you can't make this stuff up," usually thinking about the latest sleazy, treasonous, and/or unbelievably stupid thing coming over the news, it's really great to have a story that falls into the believe-it-or-not category but is as inspiring as this one.

It makes me feel the least I can do is set a reminder to vote every day. With a story like this, it's hard to imagine how anyone wouldn't select Jake.

Thanks for posting this, CU77.

FYI, if you have multiple browsers, you can vote multiple times each day.

Trotsky
Our snots are beating their snots 13-3 in the third and I'm not sure Brown is trying. Actually I'm not sure we're trying.

19-5.

Bummer. I was hoping for another 20 goal game.

Very nice win, great for the seniors and the returning 76-77-78 "streak" alums!

Cornell has clinched the #2 seed in the ILT.

All remaining ILT possibilities:

B>D C>Pr Y>H: Y,C,B,Pe
B>D C>Pr H>Y: Y,C,H,B
B>D Pr>C Y>H: Y,C,B,Pe
B>D Pr>C H>Y: Y,C,B,Pe

D>B C>Pr Y>H: Y,C,Pe,Pr
D>B C>Pr H>Y: Y,C,Pe,H
D>B Pr>C Y>H: Y,C,Pe,Pr
D>B Pr>C H>Y: Y,C,Pe,Pr

Hard to believe North Caroline played its last game of the season today.

mike1960
Hard to believe North Caroline played its last game of the season today.

And they won. Just not by 8 goals.

and they might have knocked ND out of the tourney if they cant win 1 of the last 2 to stay over .500

Jeff Hopkins '82

FYI, if you have multiple browsers, you can vote multiple times each day.

I assume this applies to multiple devices: maximum daily votes = sum(device x browsers on device for all devices), with devices = home desktop, work desktop, laptop, tablet, phone, Fire TV, ... .

mike1960
Hard to believe North Caroline played its last game of the season today.

As long as an ACC school is eligible for the tournament they are on the bubble. Who you lose to is very important in college lacrosse, far more important than actually winning games.