Cornell lacrosse 2018

is the penn state game on TV or video stream anywhere?

There is apparently no video capability at the field where they are playing, which makes no sense. not sure what that means -- that the neutral venue can't/won't provide a crew?

2-0 PSU late first; still losing all face-offs; now 3-0 after one

Getting looks but missing cage

Penn State 4-2 at the half. Bunch of turnovers and failed clears hurting Cornell.

Up to 6-2 PSU late in the third. Third ends 6-3 on Teat third goal.

Fourth: Pettison cuts cuts margin to 6-4 2 minutes into fourth quarter. Midway through, Teat and McCulloch hit the pipe within 15 seconds. Dowiak cuts it to 6-5 with 8 minutes left, evens it at 6 with 7:23 left. 3G, 2A for Teat so far. Cornell wins the ensuing faceoff (finally) and gets called for failure to advance; too much of that happened at Albany, too. Followed by an offside penalty against Cornell, leads to a PSU goal as the penalty expires, 7-6, PSU. Ouch. Petterson from Piatelli ties at 7 with 4-1/2 to play.

Last 3 minutes: Dowiak third goal on skip pass from Teat with 2:02 left gives Cornell 8-7 lead.

Last 2 minutes: PSU wins faceoff, takes TO with minute to play. PSU restarts, passes the ball out of bounds. Unsettled clear by Cornell, Petterson picks up, puts Cornell up 9-7 with :25 to go. Delayed pentalty on PSU gives Cornell the ball, no need for faceoff. Final 9-7.

... as the basketball game starts to slip away vs. Harvard. At least we sneaked into the playoff.

Awesome come from behind win. Rather we'd done it last week against #1 Albany. But okay, we're coming back.

Jeff Teat 2-4--6. Dowiak and Petterson 3-0--3 each. Knight 13 saves, 7 GA, 65%. Cornell took only one penalty.

6-6 mid-third after a Teat goal followed by three Teat assisted goals

7-7 4:31 to go

8-7 CU 2:02 left; another Teat assist

9-7 0:25 left

6 fourth period goals

Al DeFlorio
7-7 4:31 to go

8-7 CU 2:02 left; another Teat assist

9-7 0:25 left

6 fourth period goals

Great comeback after a rough start. Someone on Laxpower said we actually won 10 of 13 2nd half faceoffs—is that right?

Quite a difference from last year’s 20-10 loss to PSU. We’re certainly trending in the right direction, and Milliman is making a good case for removing the interim tag.

Huge Ivy opener with Yale next week at the Kopf. Hopefully I’ll be watching on ILDN from Lake Placid.

Yes, Cornell won the majority of FOs second half.

Maybe we can find a Placid bar that lets us jack into a TV on the wall. Somebody bring a long HDMI cable with their laptop. Or a Roku stick (and the remote), would be even simpler. I think Wiseguys would be the easiest to convince. It's so big, giving up one TV is no loss. It's 5 minutes from the rink.

billhoward
Yes, Cornell won the majority of FOs second half.

Maybe we can find a Placid bar that lets us jack into a TV on the wall. Somebody bring a long HDMI cable with their laptop. Or a Roku stick (and the remote), would be even simpler. I think Wiseguys would be the easiest to convince. It's so big, giving up one TV is no loss. It's 5 minutes from the rink.

Especially in the daytime. Unless I'm skiing, I'm in.

The fourth quarter was a thing of beauty.

Boxscore, PSU version (Cornell yet to post but should be the same):

Cornell was 8 of 19 on faceoffs but I believe we won the majority in the second half. We outshot Penn State 41-29. We were 0x6 on EMOs which is not good. We were even on turnovers at 13 each but it seemed as if we turned the ball over and lost more faceoffs in the first half than PSU did.

Elsewhere

Yale 8, Fairfield 3
Princeton 15, Rutgers 14 (OT)
Villanova 8, Penn 6 (Penn which had beaten then #1 Duke Feb. 24)
Harvard 11, Providence 8
(Tuesday) Brown 12, Villanova 9 (Villanova #4 going in to the game)
Dartmouth (did not play)
Columbia (does not play)

Paul R was 8 of 15 on FO, after Cornell went 0-4 in the 1st with Flynn and Dowiak (which was an odd strategy, IMO).

Meanwhile, Yale's Conor MAckie was 15 of 15 on FO against Fairfield today.

Going to be a tough battle next week.

Can't think of any other sport's change-of-possession / after score protocol where one side with a dominant player can gather possession 90% of the time. Jabbar, Chamberlain got, what, 60%, 70% of tips. The most dominant center, probably the same. And those in sports where possession is fleeting.

Up 15 places to #17 in the Massey calculations: [www.masseyratings.com]

This team had a slow start but seems to be getting stronger every week. We might have some things to say about the Ivy League title this year.

A couple of questions for the group.

1) We were up by 2 against Albany with about 3 minutes to play with the ball and a win in clear sight. After a break, the radio announcer on WHCU (don't know his name) said that Cornell committed an offensive penalty and Albany gained possession. Does anyone have any details on this? What was the penalty? Was it a good/bad call?

2) I have many good memories from Tambroni's time at Cornell. What was the real reason he left such a strong team for Penn State? I've never understood this decision.

Thanks.

don,t know about #1.
As for #2: $$$$$

You have good memories of Tambroni at Cornell. We do, too, including the fond memory of blowing out Virginia in the 2009 semifinal and then leading Syracuse for fifty-nine plus minutes of the title game. From there, it's a blank.

Penn State pays more. It's a chance to build a newish team into a national powerhouse. His wife, Lisa (?), has Penn State ties and like an endowed professorship here, PSU made a husband/wife package deal, IIRC. Penn State somehow manages to mask some of the coaching salaries even though it's a public school. One might expect a salary at Penn State in the $200,000 range. One can live nicely there.

billhoward
Can't think of any other sport's change-of-possession / after score protocol where one side with a dominant player can gather possession 90% of the time. Jabbar, Chamberlain got, what, 60%, 70% of tips. The most dominant center, probably the same. And those in sports where possession is fleeting.

Didn't Jabbar get close to 100% in college?

billhoward
His wife, Lisa (?), has Penn State ties and like an endowed professorship here, PSU made a husband/wife package deal, IIRC.

While Michelle Tambroni is a PSU alum, she has no official position there, either now or at the time Jeff took the job in 2010.

CU77

billhoward
His wife, Lisa (?), has Penn State ties and like an endowed professorship here, PSU made a husband/wife package deal, IIRC.

While Michelle Tambroni is a PSU alum, she has no official position there, either now or at the time Jeff took the job in 2010.

Hmm. I thought there was the *opportunity* to do something with Penn State field hockey where she was an AA player. But if their children are not yet in HS, there is nothing better for a family, I believe, than one parent being able to be home with kids to help get them launched. And Jeff Tambroni's salary at Penn State made that even more possible than at Cornell. Even with the success of Cornell, Princeton, Brown, now Yale, w/o scholarships, Tambroni felt a scholarship school offered more possibilities. Regardless, he's long gone now. Let's hope Millman can do something with the this team. Both hockey and lax are doing better / way better than we expected pre-season. Too bad Albany slipped away.

billhoward
You have good memories of Tambroni at Cornell. We do, too, including the fond memory of blowing out Virginia in the 2009 semifinal and then leading Syracuse for fifty-nine plus minutes of the title game. From there, it's a blank.

So at the game were Cornell fans chanting "2009" to taunt Tambroni? Oh, the pain!

CU77

billhoward
His wife, Lisa (?), has Penn State ties and like an endowed professorship here, PSU made a husband/wife package deal, IIRC.

While Michelle Tambroni is a PSU alum, she has no official position there, either now or at the time Jeff took the job in 2010.

Penn State did welcome Michelle back to the area in a press release that is fairly unusual: PSU release. She may volunteer some with the team, I don't follow enough Field Hockey to know.

Swampy

billhoward
You have good memories of Tambroni at Cornell. We do, too, including the fond memory of blowing out Virginia in the 2009 semifinal and then leading Syracuse for fifty-nine plus minutes of the title game. From there, it's a blank.

So at the game were Cornell fans chanting "2009" to taunt Tambroni? Oh, the pain!

Um. Haven't we kinda sucked since he left?

The Cornell job pays reasonably well. I think they wanted a change of venue. BTW lacrosse has a long history at Penn State-hardly a newish program. Glen Thiel was their head coach for years. Tambroni has not done badly but has not achieved down there what he did at Cornell. There is something to be said for tradition and competing against Maryland and Hopkins is like pushing a big rock up a hill.

rss77
The Cornell job pays reasonably well. I think they wanted a change of venue...

The amount that Cornell pays is very unlikely to be competitive with what Penn State pays.

Trotsky

Swampy

billhoward
You have good memories of Tambroni at Cornell. We do, too, including the fond memory of blowing out Virginia in the 2009 semifinal and then leading Syracuse for fifty-nine plus minutes of the title game. From there, it's a blank.

So at the game were Cornell fans chanting "2009" to taunt Tambroni? Oh, the pain!

Um. Haven't we kinda sucked since he left?

Well, not exactly. He left after the 2009 season, and we finished #1 in the Ivies every year until 2014, except for 2012, when we finished 2nd. Nationally we were ranked #1 according to Laxpower's Power Rating in 2010, 2011, and 2013. AN fired Ben DeLuca in the fall of 2013. Cornell had a successful year with his players the following spring. But the wheels started to come off after that.

I should have mentioned being comfortably up on another team and blowing it in the last quarter. IIRC, Tambroni did take some heat (among fans) for poor game management towards the end of the 2009 game.

Swampy

Trotsky

Swampy

billhoward
You have good memories of Tambroni at Cornell. We do, too, including the fond memory of blowing out Virginia in the 2009 semifinal and then leading Syracuse for fifty-nine plus minutes of the title game. From there, it's a blank.

So at the game were Cornell fans chanting "2009" to taunt Tambroni? Oh, the pain!

Um. Haven't we kinda sucked since he left?

Well, not exactly. He left after the 2009 season, and we finished #1 in the Ivies every year until 2014, except for 2012, when we finished 2nd. Nationally we were ranked #1 according to Laxpower's Power Rating in 2010, 2011, and 2013. AN fired Ben DeLuca in the fall of 2013. Cornell had a successful year with his players the following spring. But the wheels started to come off after that.

I should have mentioned being comfortably up on another team and blowing it in the last quarter. IIRC, Tambroni did take some heat (among fans) for poor game management towards the end of the 2009 game.

Jeff was still with us in 2010, so he gets credit for that final four team (along with a sophomore named Pannell). And he took a lot of heat for overusing his first midfield line which would -- allegedly -- lead to fourth quarter fades. Have to admit that I thought about that sitting in the stands at Sparks on Saturday.

Well, not exactly. He left after the 2009 season, and we finished #1 in the Ivies every year until 2014, except for 2012, when we finished 2nd. Nationally we were ranked #1 according to Laxpower's Power Rating in 2010, 2011, and 2013. AN fired Ben DeLuca in the fall of 2013. Cornell had a successful year with his players the following spring. But the wheels started to come off after that.

The team made the NCAAs in 2014 and 2015 (seeded eighth the latter year) after heavy 2013 graduation losses (Pannell, Mock, Van Bourgondien, Noble, Keith, Bronzino, et al), losing in the first round. Three years of recruiting weak in offensive talent (see this year's and last year's senior classes) resulted in sub-par 2016 and 2017 seasons. Now, with three strong recruiting classes on the offensive side (Teat, Pettersen, Piatelli, Fletcher, McCulloch, J. Donville, Duggan, Licciardi) we will, I hope, see a resurgence. [Quint has Cornell #14 this week.]

Al DeFlorio

Well, not exactly. He left after the 2009 season, and we finished #1 in the Ivies every year until 2014, except for 2012, when we finished 2nd. Nationally we were ranked #1 according to Laxpower's Power Rating in 2010, 2011, and 2013. AN fired Ben DeLuca in the fall of 2013. Cornell had a successful year with his players the following spring. But the wheels started to come off after that.

The team made the NCAAs in 2014 and 2015 (seeded eighth the latter year) after heavy 2013 graduation losses (Pannell, Mock, Van Bourgondien, Noble, Keith, Bronzino, et al), losing in the first round. Three years of recruiting weak in offensive talent (see this year's and last year's senior classes) resulted in sub-par 2016 and 2017 seasons. Now, with three strong recruiting classes on the offensive side (Teat, Pettersen, Piatelli, Fletcher, McCulloch, J. Donville, Duggan, Licciardi) we will, I hope, see a resurgence. [Quint has Cornell #14 this week.]

Quint! OMG!

Even Hell can have climate change.

Swampy

Al DeFlorio

Well, not exactly. He left after the 2009 season, and we finished #1 in the Ivies every year until 2014, except for 2012, when we finished 2nd. Nationally we were ranked #1 according to Laxpower's Power Rating in 2010, 2011, and 2013. AN fired Ben DeLuca in the fall of 2013. Cornell had a successful year with his players the following spring. But the wheels started to come off after that.

The team made the NCAAs in 2014 and 2015 (seeded eighth the latter year) after heavy 2013 graduation losses (Pannell, Mock, Van Bourgondien, Noble, Keith, Bronzino, et al), losing in the first round. Three years of recruiting weak in offensive talent (see this year's and last year's senior classes) resulted in sub-par 2016 and 2017 seasons. Now, with three strong recruiting classes on the offensive side (Teat, Pettersen, Piatelli, Fletcher, McCulloch, J. Donville, Duggan, Licciardi) we will, I hope, see a resurgence. [Quint has Cornell #14 this week.]

Quint! OMG! Even Hell can have climate change.

Maybe he's just more pissed at somebody else.

rss77

The Cornell job pays reasonably well...

But even though the Cornell head coach is endowed, the AD probably looked at that as allowing him to budget less for lacrosse rather than paying more to keep him. I'm pretty sure it was all about the dollars, and the stuff about a position for his wife was a smokescreen.

rss77
...lacrosse has a long history at Penn State-hardly a newish program. There is something to be said for tradition...

Correct about their program not being new. But compared to Cornell they have zero tradition and puny player alum support.

rss77

Tambroni has not done badly but has not achieved down there what he did at Cornell...and competing against Maryland and Hopkins is like pushing a big rock up a hill.

Correct. Even with those 12.5 scholarships, new facilities, and all that "We Are.." BS it's gonna be a long time, if ever, that he rivals JHU and UM. And he had to know it. That's another reason why I think it was the money.

When Penn State wants to build a program they have an insane amount of money to throw at it. We can't compete on those terms. If Penn State wanted Schafer they could probably sign him away.

TimV

Correct. Even with those 12.5 scholarships, new facilities, and all that "We Are.." BS it's gonna be a long time, if ever, that he rivals JHU and UM. And he had to know it. That's another reason why I think it was the money.

Underscores what an amazing job Bill Tierney has done out in Denver.

mike1960

TimV

Correct. Even with those 12.5 scholarships, new facilities, and all that "We Are.." BS it's gonna be a long time, if ever, that he rivals JHU and UM. And he had to know it. That's another reason why I think it was the money.

Underscores what an amazing job Bill Tierney has done out in Denver.

Tierney is right up there with the other deities: Knute Rockne, John Wooden, Ned Harkness.

mike1960


Underscores what an amazing job Bill Tierney has done out in Denver.

Not the same. Although he plays a tough schedule, he's in a much less competitive conference. He's a proven recruiter without a lot of admission constraints and a Hall-of-Fame caliber coach for sure.

TimV

Not the same. Although he plays a tough schedule, he's in a much less competitive conference. He's a proven recruiter without a lot of admission constraints and a Hall-of-Fame caliber coach for sure.

When you win the national title, you've essentially beaten every conference in the entire nation.

mike1960

TimV

Not the same. Although he plays a tough schedule, he's in a much less competitive conference. He's a proven recruiter without a lot of admission constraints and a Hall-of-Fame caliber coach for sure.

When you win the national title, you've essentially beaten every conference in the entire nation.

No. Not even close. You beat your own conference (if you're not an at large team) then one game against 2 more teams from perhaps two other conferences. As opposed to having two top playoff caliber teams before you even GET to the NCAA's, maybe even having to play them twice - regular season and conference tournament.

[www.instagram.com]

Looks like the team is loose, having fun, ready to play. Let's get a win tomorrow!

Cornell's zone D is giving up easy goals.

Al DeFlorio
Cornell's zone D is giving up easy goals.

Are you at the game? I'm listening to Barry Leonard on the radio. It sounds like Cornell has had a lot of opportunities to get control of this one.

cornell had a ton of chances.. Yales D is really tough.. took yale/albany down to the wire.. now lets win a couple and knock off Syracuse.

Cornell missed the injured players at SSDM. Their zone D got victimized a couple of times. Paul R and the wings did a good job of winning enough faceoffs to keep Cornell in the game.

Tough to take a loss, but the Red is much improved over last year.

Another quality loss, little or no sarcasm intended. Two-goal losses to #1 and #7 should do more for us than "also receiving votes" but it won't get us into the top ten, which feels like where Cornell should be later in the season. Nine of the top 20 as of the 3/12 NCAA poll had 2 or (#20) 3 losses

Quint has Cornell up to #11.

Patrick McEwen, @LaxFilmRoom, has an advanced-stats ranking that has us at #6:

[analyticslacrosse.com]

At this point, I'm still very confused about how anyone can look at @CornellLacrosse & not think that's one of the 20 best teams in the country

— Lacrosse Film Room (@LaxFilmRoom) March 19, 2018

That was nice to only lose to Yale by 2 games. But we gotta win some Ivy games, too. Tomorrow at Penn would be a good time to make our move. LGR.

Because of the hockey game, I can't get an online radio stream of the game. It sounds like a great win for Cornell. Coach Milliman has really done a great job this far. Question: I see from the stats that Caelahn Bullen played goalie in the second half and Penn scored far fewer than the first half. Was it because he was that much better than Knight today, or did the defense pick it up? Or both? Thanks.

mike1960
Because of the hockey game, I can't get an online radio stream of the game. It sounds like a great win for Cornell. Coach Milliman has really done a great job this far. Question: I see from the stats that Caelahn Bullen played goalie in the second half and Penn scored far fewer than the first half. Was it because he was that much better than Knight today, or did the defense pick it up? Or both? Thanks.

Over on the Laxpower forum there's some suggestion that CK had a minor injury.

Nice, much needed win over a good Penn team. First half was pretty even, but the D was giving up lots of good looks and Knight was not stopping them. Then he appeared to injure his leg on a hard shot. He finished the half with 3 saves against 10 goals. Then it seemed like Penn never got the ball in the 3rd. They scored one goal and Bullen had one save, while the Cornell offense scored 6. Cornell kept it up in the 4th, scoring 4 more goals against Penn's 2 (with 2 saves for Bullen) before adding 2 more empty-net goals as Penn went into desperation mode.

At one point, Knight was behind the goal going after a ground ball and he got hit pretty hard. No penalty, though. I was watching with no sound and wasn't paying close enough attention to see whether/when he left the game.

Knight stayed in through the first half. Bullen started the 2nd half.

'Cuse just took down Duke. Rumors of the Orange's demise have been greatly exaggerated.

The team sent an Instagram pic of them practicing at daybreak on Schoellkopf when it was 9 degrees. That's dedication and it is paying off big time.

That's not new though. What's new this season is better coaching and game planning.

cuse has 3 good wins and 3 blow out losses in the last 6 games.. 4-3 that could just as easily be 1-6.. UV coughed up a 9-2 lead today. Army lost to Colgate. UNC has lost 3 in a row. We are the only team to give Albany a game. Who knows where this season is headed.

Beating Syracuse is a real possibility this year.

upprdeck
We are the only team to give Albany a game.

Maryland gave Albany an essentially identical game. Don't disagree with your primary assertion, that having been said.

mike1960
The team sent an Instagram pic of them practicing at daybreak on Schoellkopf when it was 9 degrees. That's dedication and it is paying off big time.

Kids today. They'll do anything to build followers. Do like their elders and buy them.

Top 15 this week? Higher? We have a convincing win over 15-Penn to go with the close losses to 1-Albany and 8-Yale. And nothing self-inflicted such as a loss to Hobart or Binghamton. Quint Kessenich had Cornell 11 last week; he's the one person who apparently doesn't believe a team should only move 1-2-3 positions vs. the previous week.

billhoward
Top 15 this week? Higher? We have a convincing win over 15-Penn to go with the close losses to 1-Albany and 8-Yale. And nothing self-inflicted such as a loss to Hobart or Binghamton. Quint Kessenich had Cornell 11 last week; he's the one person who apparently doesn't believe a team should only move 1-2-3 positions vs. the previous week.

Quint has Cornell at #8.

[www.insidelacrosse.com]

Al DeFlorio

billhoward
Top 15 this week? Higher? We have a convincing win over 15-Penn to go with the close losses to 1-Albany and 8-Yale. And nothing self-inflicted such as a loss to Hobart or Binghamton. Quint Kessenich had Cornell 11 last week; he's the one person who apparently doesn't believe a team should only move 1-2-3 positions vs. the previous week.

Quint has Cornell at #8.
[www.insidelacrosse.com]

Inside Lacrosse media poll vaults Cornell from also getting votes to #13. [www.insidelacrosse.com]
Yale jumped 6 to 4. Penn fell out of the top 20. Harvard moves in to 19.

USILA poll (they don't rush to put it on their site) has Cornell at 14. [grfx.cstv.com]

Quint Kessenich on Harvard (his #19)
The Crimson beat Boston U, 19-18, in overtime on Tuesday [heh! another sport where Harvard can be embarrassed by in-town rival] ... The entire Ivy League had a strong mid-week showing, as Brown, Harvard and Penn won. Harvard took care of Dartmouth on Saturday, 10-8, running its win streak to six straight. The Crimson play Albany on Wednesday. Four of their last five regular-season games are on the road, at Albany, Cornell [4/7], Penn and Yale. Yikes. Say bye-bye.

billhoward

Al DeFlorio

billhoward
Top 15 this week? Higher? We have a convincing win over 15-Penn to go with the close losses to 1-Albany and 8-Yale. And nothing self-inflicted such as a loss to Hobart or Binghamton. Quint Kessenich had Cornell 11 last week; he's the one person who apparently doesn't believe a team should only move 1-2-3 positions vs. the previous week.

Quint has Cornell at #8.
[www.insidelacrosse.com]

Inside Lacrosse media poll vaults Cornell from also getting votes to #13. [www.insidelacrosse.com]
Yale jumped 6 to 4. Penn fell out of the top 20. Harvard moves in to 19.

Quint Kessenich on Harvard (his #19)
The Crimson beat Boston U, 19-18, in overtime on Tuesday [heh! another sport where Harvard can be embarrassed by in-town rival] ... The entire Ivy League had a strong mid-week showing, as Brown, Harvard and Penn won. Harvard took care of Dartmouth on Saturday, 10-8, running its win streak to six straight. The Crimson play Albany on Wednesday. Four of their last five regular-season games are on the road, at Albany, Cornell [4/7], Penn and Yale. Yikes. Say bye-bye.

Great article. +1! The Yale writeup, especially about the after-practice practice and the head sleeves is well worth reading.

Those headsocks: It looked as if they just took over a cruise ship or airplane. Also makes you wonder if anyone ever gets sideswiped, forgetting for a moment to look around.

billhoward
Those headsocks: It looked as if they just took over a cruise ship or airplane. Also makes you wonder if anyone ever gets sideswiped, forgetting for a moment to look around.

I think that's the point of the headsocks. If I were coaching the team, it would be me doling out the sideswipes.

this is an example of how this campus is run. notes from todays game

SPECTATOR INFORMATION: The Crescent Lot, Hoy Parking Garage and other outer lots are reserved for Cornell faculty and staff possessing parking permits until 5 p.m. Fans arriving prior to 5 p.m. should stop at the Transportation Services kiosk on Hoy Road to purchase a parking pass for the Hoy Parking Garage, or be directed to one of the metered lots on Campus Road. Fans can order tickets for the game online at:

They really want people to pay for a parking spot for 15min?

why not start the game at 5:30 or stop ticketing at 4:30? Why are we creating this extra hastle?

The reality is the lots are emptying out at 4:30 anyway.

Park there at 4:30 and report back. Maybe we can GoFund the ticket if there is one.

I will just walk over to the game from my office.. I just know several people who will be coming late to avoid the tickets.. Several friends have gotten tickets going to HS baseball games and parking in the garage before 5 the last few years and since the garage is the last thing they sweep before going off duty it happens a lot.

What's the story on Kason Tarbell? I haven't heard his name called in a game in quite a while. Thanks.

mike1960
What's the story on Kason Tarbell? I haven't heard his name called in a game in quite a while. Thanks.

He’s injured, but my understanding is that he’ll be back this season

scoop85

mike1960
What's the story on Kason Tarbell? I haven't heard his name called in a game in quite a while. Thanks.

He’s injured, but my understanding is that he’ll be back this season

Thanks, Scoop!

23-5 over Air Force. Wow.

It could have been a lot worse. They were at 19 or 20 before the end of the third quarter.

looked like they shut it down mid 2nd quarter.

5-3 need to make sure you beat dart/lehigh/brown/princ

then split su/harv at worst and you get to 10-4

then you have a shot to get to the ncaa even if you dont win the ivy by winning the first game

From the pregame notes [cornellbigred.com] ...

Cornell Big Red.com
• The Big Red has scored 20+ goals in two consecutive games (Penn – 20; Air Force – 23) for the first time since the 1976 team scored 26 goals vs. Dartmouth and followed that up with 24 goals vs. No. 19 Syracuse.

... Something to shoot for? That or give everyone lots of playing time. Parents love that.

Dartmouth comes in at 2-5 with one-goal wins over Canisius and Wagner, and with a narrow 10-8 loss to Harvard last week.

No let up against Dartmouth. 7-1 Cornell after the 1st quarter.

Cornell rolling toward a possible third straight 20-goal game. 7-1 after one, 10-2 7 minutes into the second. Cornell parents getting itchy (want to see their sons playing). Took Harvard the entire game to put up 10 and by that time Dartmouth had 8. 15-2 at the half. 4 goals for Dowiak, 4 assists for Teat.

Second half: And 17-5 midway through the third although only 4 points still for Teat; this game could hurt him statistically. <sarcasm font> Cornell scores with 0.1 left in third to to go up 19-7. Dowiak now up to 5G, Fletcher 4-2-6 and Teat 0-4-4 end of 3. Freshman Parker Henderer in goal for Cornell start of fourth. Cornell gets the 20th 3:30 into fourth (20-8). Dartmouth gets its 10th (22-10) with 3:40 left. Final 22-11. Cornell 22 goals on 27 SOG (81%).

 
Cornell   7 8 4 3 -- 22
Dartmouth 1 1 5 4 -- 11 

Now 9-1 in the 2nd Q. This is getting ugly.

Issue about reaching 20 is not if we can get 20, but rather if we will get 20. If Milliman goes into the next half up by 10+, substitutions will probably start very soon after.

Swampy
Now 9-1 in the 2nd Q. This is getting ugly. Issue about reaching 20 is not if we can get 20, but rather if we will get 20. If Milliman goes into the next half up by 10+, substitutions will probably start very soon after.

Don't let Teat get hurt in Q4 of a runaway. Let everyone play and keep the parents, relatives, girlfriends happy. The sixth attackman was probably all-state.

Bullen is in goal. Not sure if Knight is hurt or a healthy scratch.

Now leading 21-8, Three-in-a-row!

Jeff Hopkins '82
Now leading 21-8, Three-in-a-row!

22-9 now. Be good to keep Dartmouth in single digits although we just drew a 2:00 penalty with 4:00 to go.

22-11 final.

@ #1 Albany 14, Harvard 6
@ #4 Yale 12, #20 Penn 6
#14 Cornell 22, @ Dartmouth 11
@ Brown 14, Princeton 13 (winning goal with :14 to play)

The pre-season media poll was Yale, Princeton, Penn, Brown, Cornell, Harvard, Dartmouth. Princeton is now 0-3 (to Yale, Penn, Brown) in league play. It's starting to look good for Cornell to slot in as the 2-3 team going into the Ivy playoffs. Yale is 3-0 with the 13-11 win over Cornell then doubling Princeton 16-8 and Penn 12-6.

billhoward
@ #1 Albany 14, Harvard 6
@ #4 Yale 12, #20 Penn 6
#14 Cornell 22, @ Dartmouth 11
@ Brown 14, Princeton 13 (winning goal with :14 to play)

The pre-season media poll was Yale, Princeton, Penn, Brown, Cornell, Harvard, Dartmouth. Princeton is now 0-3 (to Yale, Penn, Brown) in league play. It's starting to look good for Cornell to slot in as the 2-3 team going into the Ivy playoffs. Yale is 3-0 with the 13-11 win over Cornell then doubling Princeton 16-8 and Penn 12-6.

Looking forward to the re-match with Yale. I think we'll see a different result.

great chance to beat SU this year too. hopefully we keep the X as a WASH or better like the last few games.

Jeff Hopkins '82
22-11 final.

http://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/cornell-showcases-complete-effort-that-s-led-to-huge-outbursts-on-offense/51788

Knight is still nursing some soreness and swelling due to the injury that occurred in the Penn game. Hopefully he’ll be ready for the Harvard game but if not I’m sure Bullen will be ready to go. He’s been playing great.

CornellBigRed.com
The Big Red's offense was clicking on all cylinders, as the visitors [Cornell] scored its 22 goals on just 27 shots on goal and assisted on 17-of-22 goals. ...
Dartmouth's goalie Alex Burnley made just five saves to post the lowest save percentage (.185) of any Big Red opponent this season.

.185 save percentage for Dartmouth would pretty much define "sieve." Interesting that Dartmouth didn't turn to a backup. Maybe Burnley is the widest guy on the team. [youtu.be]

The starting goalie for Dartmouth WAS the backup. Their first string goalie broke his thumb. And there are only 2 GK on the roster....

Well both teams were playing with backups.

does lax have club teams or intramural teams so they could have at least found a 2nd goalie if something else happened?

upprdeck
Well both teams were playing with backups.

does lax have club teams or intramural teams so they could have at least found a 2nd goalie if something else happened?

Perhaps a local Hanover, NH accountant might be available.

Love to see Cornell extend the school record three straight 20-goal games to four when Harvard comes to Schoellkopf Saturday. It's do-able: BU put up 18 against the Cantabs March 20 before losing in OT. Against common opponents Harvard beat Dartmouth 10-8 vs. our 22-11 win, and lost to Albany 14-6 vs. our 11-9 loss. On paper, this should be a W for Cornell except we can't look past them to Syracuse next Tuesday. Harvard's 7-2 record breaks down to 4-2 plus a two-goal win, a one-goal win, and an OT win. Harvard at best will finish out the season 2-2, could go 0-4 vs. Cornell, Penn, Princeton and Yale. All on the road.

[www.insidelacrosse.com] Cornell climbs from 13th to 10th in the April 2 media poll. Albany remains #1 with all first-place votes. Yale climbs from 4 to 3, Syracuse from 10 to 8, Penn State climbs from 21 to 15, Lehigh holds at 17 and Harvard holds at 19.

Unbeaten Albany has played only two close games: 11-10 over Maryland, 11-9 over Cornell, and the next closest game was a 6-goal MOV. It plays at Yale April 22.

Kessenich has Cornell 8th. [www.insidelacrosse.com]

Quint Kessenich, Inside Lacrosse
8. Cornell — Jeff Teat led Cornell to a 23-7 win over Air Force on Tuesday. Clarke Petterson (3, 2) and Colton Rupp (3, 1) were productive.

The Big Red scored another 22 goals in a Saturday shellacking of Ivy doormat Dartmouth. It was step-down city for midfielders Connor Fletcher and Jordan Dowiak, as Jeff Teat drew all sorts of attention. Teat dished out eight assists [over 2 games, plus 3G vs. Air Force] and has ascended into the Tewaraaton discussion.

The Big Red have scored 20 or more goals in three-straight games. They tackle Harvard next.

I love how the Big Red players line up and salute their fans after a game and that George Bioardi's [Boiardi] legacy has become the fabric of the program.

[edit add]
[www.ncaa.com] Coaches poll 4/2 has Albany-Maryland 1-2 and the Ivies:

 3. Yale     +1 positions
13. Cornell  +1 
HM  Harvard and Penn 

Syracuse is hard to read.. Watched them play some tough teams well and then also got blown out multiple times.

upprdeck
Syracuse is hard to read.. Watched them play some tough teams well and then also got blown out multiple times.

Yes, but I think we can expect their best effort on Tuesday.

billhoward
[www.insidelacrosse.com] Cornell climbs from 13th to 10th in the April 2 media poll. Albany remains #1 with all first-place votes. Yale climbs from 4 to 3, Syracuse from 10 to 8, Penn State climbs from 21 to 15, Lehigh holds at 17 and Harvard holds at 19.

Unbeaten Albany has played only two close games: 11-10 over Maryland, 11-9 over Cornell, and the next closest game was a 6-goal MOV. It plays at Yale April 22.

Kessenich has Cornell 8th.

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Bill, looks like while IL hasn’t updated the USILA Coaches poll in several weeks, Cornell moved up a notch from 14 to 13 (via NCAA.com site) [www.ncaa.com]

[www.collegecrosse.com]

they struggle against inverts and we dont really rely on 1 single guy to score even with teat getting so many assists.

billhoward
Love to see Cornell extend the school record three straight 20-goal games to four when Harvard comes to Schoellkopf Saturday.

This is interesting when looking back on the Tambroni era where it seemed like crossing the 20-goal barrier was a no-no. Once the team reached 19 in blowouts, the dogs were really called off and running out the clock was the activity. Whether it was for sportsmanship reasons or whatever, I think it's just fine the team is allowed to run scoring plays up in that range now.

RichH

billhoward
Love to see Cornell extend the school record three straight 20-goal games to four when Harvard comes to Schoellkopf Saturday.

This is interesting when looking back on the Tambroni era where it seemed like crossing the 20-goal barrier was a no-no. Once the team reached 19 in blowouts, the dogs were really called off and running out the clock was the activity. Whether it was for sportsmanship reasons or whatever, I think it's just fine the team is allowed to run scoring plays up in that range now.

There will be a year when Harvard will be better than Cornell and decide to lay on a drubbing in retaliation. But we got to the high teens pretty quick. Teat was gone, I thought, midway through the third. We played goalies 2, 3 and 4 (2 being Bullen with #1 Knight hurt). The only thing Cornell could done was take the foot off the pedal sooner but then our shooting percentage was > 80% so anything on net was in. And now that we have three 20-goal games in a row, I can't think of a better team to lay 20 on than Harvard. We aren't getting 20 against Syracuse unless both sides play run, gun and no defense. Kessenich shamed, perhaps, the voters in the coach and media polls into thinking a little harder about Cornell. Thge media voters woke up finally to place Cornell 10th.

Quint said it was "step down city" against Dartmouth. What are "step downs" in lacrosse? It has something to do with "sliding"? (another term I do not fully understand)