Cornell football 2017

Three false starts in first ten plays. Another ball thrown up for grabs by Banks yields a pick. Where's Harley Kirsch?

Add two pass interference penalties. And a holding on a Harvard punt. Six 1Q penalties.

First 2Q penalty: personal foul after the play is dead.

Personal foul after play late first half negates 13-yard gain and first down at Harvard 30. Shoot self in foot?

Two more false starts late 3Q. Somehow 14-14 despite all this late 3Q. Found a running game.

Now 11th penalty: holding. Too many men on top of that. We can't count.

I'm sure Archer is a very nice man, but I'd never seen him in an interview before. He IS Generic Coach Man. His super power is jock platitudes.

Al DeFlorio
Three false starts in first ten plays. Another ball thrown up for grabs by Banks yields a pick. Where's Harley Kirsch?

Add two pass interference penalties. And a holding on a Harvard punt. Six 1Q penalties.

First 2Q penalty: personal foul after the play is dead.

Personal foul after play late first half negates 13-yard gain and first down at Harvard 30. Shoot self in foot?

That last PF was painful. Great momentum coming off the score and stop and then to get the first down and... oofa.

Trotsky
I'm sure Archer is a very nice man, but I'd never seen him in an interview before. He IS Generic Coach Man. His super power is jock platitudes.

My exact reaction.

Trotsky
According to the TV broadcasters, the Harvard QB "plays the game with his arm and legs." That may catch on.

I read that as a clearly phrased way of saying "dumb jock"?

6 minutes to go, up 17-14. I think H will still manage to win.

Really, how many times in recent years have we heard, "Third and 37 for Harvard"?

Well, I'll be damned. A football miracle.

"Jeff, your job is safe. For the week. Signed, the fans"

Jeez, it was Cornell doing all the right things like sacking the QB, getting a 6, 8-yard run for a first down when wearing down the clock, and making a last-play interception. Savor this game. Maybe it's the start of something.

Who didn't see that coming?

scoop85
Who didn't see that coming?

The Cantabs, for one. Enjoy the bus ride back.

The defense was great and the OL just hammered away and moved the ball downfield like it was the 1940's. I started watching at 14-7 and while there was a short stretch where I ... uh ... fell asleep ... the Red didn't try a single pass that wasn't a WR screen. Archer effectively gave up on having Banks throw downfield because the run game was moving the chains. It worked and it was great.

Credit to the defense for giving up less than 300 yards for the second week in a row. The pressure they were getting all through the 4th quarter was great. A lot of sacks, hits and hurries. On the desperation drive for Harvard, Cornell got a sack and forced a bad pass that became a tip drill, sideline-tiptoe INT to seal the win.

Great win. Don't know that it portends anything - especially if we're graduating a lot of players - but a lot of guys showed up to play today.

As for "plays with his hands and feet" why pretend that you don't know what that means. Peyton Manning played with his hands; Tim Tebow played with his feet.

ugarte
Tim Tebow played with his feet.

3 nails + 1 cross = .4 slugging percentage* in single A.

* actually, .311

First win against H since 2005 if I'm reading it right.

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Al DeFlorio
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Money shot:

The Crimson (2-2, 1-1 Ivy League) arrived having not allowed 100 yards rushing in a game to the Big Red (1-3, 1-1) since 2005. Then, Cornell ran for 233 yards. The Crimson arrived winners of 11 straight against the Big Red, who were winless, with twice as many turnovers (12) as total touchdowns (six). Cornell turned the ball over only once and quarterback Jake Jatis scored on a pair of 2-yard rushing touchdowns.

They ran the ball and didn't have 5 turnovers. They won.

Funny how that works.

How long has it been since this has been in the extended box score:

Streak - W2

Let's hope Cornell can do it again today. And after today, we'll have reprieve for 51 weeks from hearing about "the battle of the 'Nells." Which sounds like a naming feud among two gold-rush bordellos.

[post game] If Providence allows Cornell only two more wins after Harvard, why spend them on non-Ivy foes?

billhoward
"the battle of the 'Nells."

No Gellately OR Coles. COME ON.

At least Bucknell is missing their best DL.

The guy doing the play-by-play seems unaware that the yards gained, yard line and down-and-distance are the most important parts of his job. He'll say things like "long gain" and then not get any more specific and it's driving me nuts.

Down 10-3 at the half, second half kickoff upcoming.

EDIT: Cornell goes 65 yards after the kickoff to tie the game on a 9 yard fade from Jatis to Lizana.

Cornell declines a holding penalty on 3d & 17 and lets Bucknell take a 38 yard FG, which they hit. 13-10 Bucknell.

Cornell can't get a 1st down then Bucknell blocks the punt and takes over at the Cornell 24. Cornell D holds but gives up the FG. 16-10 Bucknell.

Cornell can't move the ball, punts. Gives up long passes on 3 straight 3d & long, the last one a 22 yard TD. 23-10 Bucknell.

I don't know what it's going to take to give Harley Kirsch a chance. Banks is taking this team nowhere.

Guess the Harvard game was an aberration.
We are now 10-35 under Coach Archer, & 2-10 in our last 12. For those who think Cornell can't win, Columbia is 5-0 this year.

I was thinking more of the Miss Kitty look, but this is good.

Let's see. One of the recommendations by Columbia's outside review of their football program was improved facilities. Al Bagnoli said their new indoor practice facility has made a big difference in their teams off season program as well as in their recruiting. No surprise Columbia is 5-0. Wake up Cornell trustees and President Pollack!

ugarte
Cornell declines a holding penalty on 3d & 17 and lets Bucknell take a 38 yard FG, which they hit. 13-10 Bucknell.

Admittedly with no context of the game situation, that seems incredibly stupid given the general troubles college team have once you get outside of 40 yards or so. Were they scared they'd give up a first on 3rd and 27? If so, that's a whole 'nother issue.

CU2007

ugarte
Cornell declines a holding penalty on 3d & 17 and lets Bucknell take a 38 yard FG, which they hit. 13-10 Bucknell.

Admittedly with no context of the game situation, that seems incredibly stupid given the general troubles college team have once you get outside of 40 yards or so. Were they scared they'd give up a first on 3rd and 27? If so, that's a whole 'nother issue.

Typical poor in game managing by the HC.

FYI: Tickets to the Dartmouth vs Columbia game in Hanover are sold out! Meanwhile tickets are still available for Cornell's game with Brown in the battle of the cellar dwellers.

Why would you expect anything else? This staff has been ineffective for 4 years now. Seems to be a good 'ol boys network. Are there outside influences? They can't even figure out how to put the best eleven on the field. New gimmicks every week. Football isn't rocket science. Play your best eleven and execute. Put a game plan in place that utilizes the strengths of your team and adjust as necessary. In game adjustments are non-existent. The administration doesn't seem to care. I, for one, will not be sending any donations to the university or the football program until something changes.

Cornell will get their second win and possibly their final win of the season today. My prediction Cornell 28 Brown 17.

Columbia is up at Dartmouth, 22-7. If the Lions wins they will be 6-0, 3-0.

I for one welcome our new Manhattan overlords.

Martha Pollack wins the coin toss.

She is tiny.

Brown may suck, but we've been running a very nice offense against them all afternoon with consistent gains, a 13-0 lead in the third, and very strong D.

But as I say. They may just suck.

It's the Harold Coles Show.

27-0, early 4th.

Happy Homecoming!

27-0 now. Awesome day.

Meanwhile, Columbia holds on to beat Dartmouth 22-17 and is alone in first place at 3-0 with Yale looking like the biggest challenge ahead of them.

Maybe Brown is the new Columbia

scoop85
Maybe Brown is the new Columbia

Quick review of the play-by-play: Brown has as many drives with negative yardage (2) as they do first downs.

Cornell back inside the 10 after a 60-yard Gellatly run. EDIT: Gellatly finishes off the drive with a 3-yard TD run. 34-0.

scoop85
Maybe Brown is the new Columbia

So long as it's not us.

Trotsky

scoop85
Maybe Brown is the new Columbia

So long as it's not us.

What great hire Columbia made in Al Bagnoli the ex-Penn coach. He has them undefeated with a nice win at Dartmouth.

Ken711
What great hire Columbia made in Al Bagnoli the ex-Penn coach. He has them undefeated with a nice win at Dartmouth.

These quick, dramatic turnarounds are the stuff of Ned Harkness Massive Cheating legend.

Columbia should enjoy their title before it's vacated.

Trotsky

Ken711
What great hire Columbia made in Al Bagnoli the ex-Penn coach. He has them undefeated with a nice win at Dartmouth.

These quick, dramatic turnarounds are the stuff of Ned Harkness Massive Cheating legend.

Columbia should enjoy their title before it's vacated.

Just shows what can be done when the WHOLE administration and the trustees are onboard. Columbia did it the right way with an outside consultant looking at their football program from coaching to facilities. End result, they make a great hire, and have a new indoor practice facility.

Trotsky

Ken711
What great hire Columbia made in Al Bagnoli the ex-Penn coach. He has them undefeated with a nice win at Dartmouth.

These quick, dramatic turnarounds are the stuff of Ned Harkness Massive Cheating legend.

Columbia should enjoy their title before it's vacated.

Wait. Columbia is stacking its football team with Canadians?

I was objectively mad at how bad the pass was on the Dalton Banks interception to start the second quarter - but before I even started typing, Gesualdi got a tip-drill pick and ran it back to the 10. Banks' pass to Notle was perfect and the game is tied 7-7.

ugarte
I was objectively mad at how bad the pass was on the Dalton Banks interception to start the second quarter - but before I even started typing, Gesualdi got a tip-drill pick and ran it back to the 10. Banks' pass to Notle was perfect and the game is tied 7-7.

21-7 now. Blow-out has officially begun.

Ken711

ugarte
I was objectively mad at how bad the pass was on the Dalton Banks interception to start the second quarter - but before I even started typing, Gesualdi got a tip-drill pick and ran it back to the 10. Banks' pass to Notle was perfect and the game is tied 7-7.

21-7 now. Blow-out has officially begun.

The offense isn't terrible but Princeton is killing us on both lines. Kanoff is also a very good and confident QB, @illing to throw into small windows and the Tiger receivers expect the ball. We are losing to a good team.

21-10 at the half. Cornell takes the kickoff across midfield but on the first play, Banks tries to float a pass to an open receiver but doesn't get enough height on the throw and it's picked off. Come on man.

ugarte
21-10 at the half. Cornell takes the kickoff across midfield but on the first play, Banks tries to float a pass to an open receiver but doesn't get enough height on the throw and it's picked off. Come on man.

Same old, same old.

Who the hell keeps yelling in the background of the TV audio?

Defense holds, Cornell blows down the field and Walker scores from the 1. Alas, Walker then drops a 2-pt conversion. 21-16.

Defense holds again... but now a non-contact injury to Walker, probably his Achilles. Can't tell if they called it a fumble, but by college rules, I think his knee touched down before he dropped the ball (in agony). Literal insult added to injury if they call that a turnover. EDIT: They called him down by contact and then on the next play Jatis went deep and threw a jump-ball interception which worked OK as a punt I guess.

French Rage
Who the hell keeps yelling in the background of the TV audio?

Sounds like the little kids from Ingalls. Great argument for birth control.

Trotsky

French Rage
Who the hell keeps yelling in the background of the TV audio?

Sounds like the little kids from Ingalls. Great argument for birth control.

May you never take a break from protecting your lawn.

ugarte

Trotsky

French Rage
Who the hell keeps yelling in the background of the TV audio?

Sounds like the little kids from Ingalls. Great argument for birth control.

May you never take a break from protecting your lawn.

Townhouse, now, but if the fuckers get to my porch there's a fragmentation grenade waiting.

I love Halloween.

Princeton's offense is relentless. A QB in thy Ivies who can throw timing passes and crossing patterns is unfair, especially when he's got the best receiver in the conference to throw to. 28-16.

Cornell takes the kickoff back to the 45 and then rips off a 15 yard catch-and-run. 3d & 8, though, after a WR screen on 2nd down forces the receiver to drop to a knee to catch the ball ... which is not a good idea in college football.

Trotsky

French Rage
Who the hell keeps yelling in the background of the TV audio?

Sounds like the little kids from Ingalls. Great argument for birth control.

Earlier it sounded like some angry old guy. But it might have been the Princeton coach.

Makin' a game of it.

ugarte
Princeton's offense is relentless. A QB in thy Ivies who can throw timing passes and crossing patterns is unfair, especially when he's got the best receiver in the conference to throw to. 28-16.

That last P TD was gorgeous, like something out of the SEC.

Was Walker badly hurt?

Didn't realize PU was the #1 rushing D. This has been impressive. Jatis is a great weapon. If Banks got his accuracy back we'd have a helluva offense.

Trotsky
Was Walker badly hurt?

We'll see ... but it looked bad. Maybe it was a cramp and he'll be OK but I'm concerned. He hasn't returned.

Gellaty and Coles have been amazing though. A drive inside that 10 that ended in a short FG followed by a great interception on an underthrown ball at the 50 and then a series of great runs ending in a Jatis TD. 28-26 with plenty of time left if the defense can hold again.

Good hold.

Gellatly has looked like his brother lately. Dunno what got into him but hopefully we kept the prescription.

Oh man - Null blasts a 43 yarder that would have been good from 50 and Cornell is up 29-28 with 48 seconds left.

Null puts it through the end zone and Princeton takes over at the 20 with no time outs.

And it will come down to a 44-yd FG attempt for Princeton...

Missed! Not even close! (Maybe blocked?)

First place.

At 3-1 in conference, we're tied with Columbia and Penn at the top!

French Rage
At 3-1 in conference, we're tied with Columbia and Penn at the top!

Yale, not Penn.

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Good freakin' God!

Who had Cornell versus Columbia for the Ivy League title?

**crickets**

Al DeFlorio

French Rage
At 3-1 in conference, we're tied with Columbia and Penn at the top!

Yale, not Penn.

My bad!

French Rage
Missed! Not even close! (Maybe blocked?)

Just shanked. Given the kickoffs - low, and short of the end zone - I think 45 is the edge of his range, so he had to put extra mustard on it and mishit the ball badly.

I still can't get over Nick Null blasting one through like Justin Tucker, Dead center from 43 and it hit the net waaaaaaaay over the crossbar. And his kickoffs kept going out of the back of the end zone. He may have a future in kicking.

why is this kid not kicking for a D1 school?

said he kicked 67 in practice?

ugarte
I still can't get over Nick Null blasting one through like Justin Tucker, Dead center from 43 and it hit the net waaaaaaaay over the crossbar.

Dead center and prolly good from 55. Amazing.

Fast Times at Hangover High.

upprdeck
why is this kid not kicking for a D1 school?

said he kicked 67 in practice?

Good question. It's not as if his performance is a surprise: in high school he was ranked 13th best kicker in the country.

Swampy

upprdeck
why is this kid not kicking for a D1 school?

said he kicked 67 in practice?

Good question. It's not as if his performance is a surprise: in high school he was ranked 13th best kicker in the country.

If Archer can for sure do one thing, it's recruit kickers - Mays was ranked 11th the year before. For the second year in a row, Mays has gotten injured and opened a spot for Null as starting kicker. I don't know how long Mays is out for or if it will even matter after that game from Null. Mays has missed an XP and a 21 yard FG and his kickoffs have also been worse. Null is 10 for 10 getting touchbacks while Mays was 13 for 21 and even shanked two out of bounds.

Yeah, it's possible that Mays has been Wally Pipped

Congratulations to Coach Archer and the entire Cornell team. Anyone with any interest in Cornell sports would have enjoyed the post game show on NBC Sports--what excitement and joy these kids demonstrated, especially when not much was expected of them this season.

I couldn't help but be reminded, during the interview with the coach, of the old "Chris Farley Show" on Saturday Night Live. "Remember...remember when we beat Princeton? That was awesome."

Cornell (3-4, 3-1) goes into Hanover (5-2, 2-2). Walker is still out.

Trotsky
Cornell (3-4, 3-1) goes into Hanover (5-2, 2-2). Walker is still out.

Walker's out for a year.

Screen graphic calls us "BIG REDS."

Keen-eyed Dartmouth announcer calls Null a "left-footed kicker."

Good drive by Dartmouth helped by an unfortunate 15-yarder against Cornell.

Fun to be watching relevant Cornell football in November. This has only been the case about 9 times in my 37 years as a fan.

Cornell : Football :: Brown : Hockey

We look like our old, awful selves so far.

Our leading rusher is Gellatly. 5 carries for 8 yards. Team is 16 carries for 12 yards.

D looks great, though.

Al DeFlorio
We look like our old, awful selves so far.

We're playing a 5-2 team on their field. Not going to be easy.

Trotsky
Our leading rusher is Gellatly. 5 carries for 8 yards. Team is 16 carries for 12 yards.

D looks great, though.

Not getting close to passer.

Al DeFlorio

Trotsky
Our leading rusher is Gellatly. 5 carries for 8 yards. Team is 16 carries for 12 yards.

D looks great, though.

Not getting close to passer.

But good coverage on the receivers.

Stupid Ryder Stone. Stupid white Ivy halfbacks.

If we give the ball back here I am going to be very angry indeed.

OK, well, I'll take being down just one score at the half.

Meanwhile:

Yale 34 Brown 7 (last night, final)
Harvard 14 Columbia 7 (halftime)
Penn 24 Princeton 7 (3rd)

If all scores hold:

4-1 Yale
3-2 Cornell
3-2 Columbia
3-2 Dartmouth
3-2 Harvard

If we can flip ours:

4-1 Cornell
4-1 Yale
3-2 Columbia
3-2 Harvard

Lucky to be down only 7 at the half.

O-line getting stuffed.

Why do we keep throwing 30 yards downfield on 3rd and 7 or 8?

Banks now 8 for 25. Unlike Princeton, Dartmouth ready for the run with Jatis at QB.

Will Cornell win another game that is question.

Ken711
Will Cornell win another game that is question.

They gave up 10 points. The fatalism here is crazy. This has been a good year.

ugarte

Ken711
Will Cornell win another game that is question.

They gave up 10 points. The fatalism here is crazy. This has been a good year.

We’re certainly more competitive, and the improvement on defense has been encouraging. The past few years our defense was blown off the ball, and that’s not happening anymore.

scoop85

ugarte

Ken711
Will Cornell win another game that is question.

They gave up 10 points. The fatalism here is crazy. This has been a good year.

We’re certainly more competitive, and the improvement on defense has been encouraging. The past few years our defense was blown off the ball, and that’s not happening anymore.

4-6 last year. Would you consider a possible 3-7 record an improvement even if the defense if playing better?

I think this Ivy league season would be well served with the following results:

Next Week: D>B, Pn>H, Pr>Y, Cr>Cl

Final WeeK:H>Y, Cl>B Pn>Cr, Pr>D

Final Standings a 7-way tie for Ivy title at 4-3, Brown 0-8.

I guess I could live with it if Cr>Pn