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Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: CAS (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: July 02, 2016 01:57PM

Expectations? Number of wins? Will the team be competitive? The Sporting News college football preview issue has the Red finishing last in the Ivies. This is year four of the Archer era. 5-25 to date.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 07/02/2016 02:11PM by CAS.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: CAS (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: July 03, 2016 12:08PM

The (lack of) response to this thread reflects the current state of Cornell football.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Ken711 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: July 03, 2016 10:12PM

Optimistic = 5-5
Realistic = 3-7

Less than 3-7 and we may see a coaching change.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: July 04, 2016 09:39AM

Us there any reason to think we are going to improve (beyond hope)?

I'll hang up and take my answer off the air.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.cws.sco.cisco.com)
Date: July 05, 2016 04:35PM

I'll be optimistic and say 2-8.

Yes, that's optimistic. I can also see us not winning any games.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: CAS (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: August 09, 2016 11:33AM

Cornell football picked last in Ivy media poll out today.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: August 09, 2016 11:39AM

CAS
Cornell football picked last in Ivy media poll out today.
In other shocking news today, the sun rose in the east this morning!
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: KenP (---.ssmcnet.noaa.gov)
Date: August 09, 2016 12:08PM

KeithK
CAS
Cornell football picked last in Ivy media poll out today.
In other shocking news today, the sun rose in the east this morning!
For our football team, the sun has faded far away in in the crimson of the West...
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: August 09, 2016 02:04PM

CAS
Cornell football picked last in Ivy media poll out today.
Eighth not last.

 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: CAS (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: August 09, 2016 03:14PM

Rather large gap between Columbia picked 7th (43 points) and Cornell (20 points). We seem to be a consensus pick.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Ken711 (---.hr.hr.cox.net)
Date: August 09, 2016 09:30PM

CAS
Rather large gap between Columbia picked 7th (43 points) and Cornell (20 points). We seem to be a consensus pick.

Last is still last. We are the new "Columbia" in Ivy League football.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: KeithK (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: August 10, 2016 10:20AM

Ken711
CAS
Rather large gap between Columbia picked 7th (43 points) and Cornell (20 points). We seem to be a consensus pick.

Last is still last. We are the new "Columbia" in Ivy League football.
Hey, there were at least THREE media members who thought we would finish better than 8th. So that's something!
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: CAS (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: August 10, 2016 10:47AM

Keith, think that's a maximum of 3 media members who don't have us finishing last.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: August 11, 2016 05:05PM

CAS
Keith, think that's a maximum of 3 media members who don't have us finishing last.
Yes, no more than three voters could have had us above 8th. Or one crazy man thinking that we'd finish 5th! But that doesn't mean there aren't other members of the media who think so too but didn't get votes. Yeah, that's what I meanT!

Basically, quit picking on the english in my snarky postP
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: CAS (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: August 12, 2016 09:34AM

Meant no offense Keith. Was just showing how negative the media is re our football prospects this season, in year 4 of the Archer era (5-25 to date).
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: August 12, 2016 01:31PM

CAS
Meant no offense Keith. Was just showing how negative the media is re our football prospects this season, in year 4 of the Archer era (5-25 to date).
No offense taken and if I could actually type there would have been a smiley :-P at the end of my last post instead of a random trailing "P".
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016 - They love us. They really do.
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: August 15, 2016 03:20PM

Don't see any obvious W's among the four Cornell games that are televised. Although Brown without Dylan Molloy's supporting cast may not be very - um, wrong sport. [www.cornellbigred.com]

Oct 8 At Harvard
Oct 22 At Brown
Oct 29 Princeton
Nov 19 Penn

 
Re: Cornell Football 2016 - They love us. They really do.
Posted by: ugarte (---.177.169.163.IPYX-102276-ZYO.zip.zayo.com)
Date: August 15, 2016 05:27PM

billhoward
Don't see any obvious W's among the four Cornell games that are televised. Although Brown without Dylan Molloy's supporting cast may not be very - um, wrong sport. [www.cornellbigred.com]

Oct 8 At Harvard
Oct 22 At Brown
Oct 29 Princeton
Nov 19 Penn
FYP

 
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016 - They love us. They really do.
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: August 15, 2016 05:51PM

Cynic. We have Columbia's number: the last 3, 4 of the last 5. Should have been 5 of 6 because how in 2010 could Cornell allow Columbia to score 17 unanswered fourth-quarter points and win by 3 (below). Not as sad as Syracuse lacrosse the year before.

 
Re: Cornell Football 2016 - They love us. They really do.
Posted by: Ken711 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 16, 2016 08:34AM

billhoward
Cynic. We have Columbia's number: the last 3, 4 of the last 5. Should have been 5 of 6 because how in 2010 could Cornell allow Columbia to score 17 unanswered fourth-quarter points and win by 3 (below). Not as sad as Syracuse lacrosse the year before.

With Bagnoli as coach and with the transfers/recruits he's bringing in, those days of an automatic win for Cornell are I'm afraid going to be over. worry
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016 - They love us. They really do.
Posted by: CAS (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: August 16, 2016 10:41AM

We had a total of 150 yards of total offense in our 3-0 win over Columbia last year, our lone victory of 2015. Agee with Ken - with Bagnoli & Columbia's recent institutional support for football, this too should be a difficult game for the Red.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016 - They love us. They really do.
Posted by: ugarte (---.177.169.163.ipyx-102276-zyo.zip.zayo.com)
Date: August 16, 2016 02:01PM

billhoward
Cynic.
I'm just saying it isn't obvious.

 
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016 - They love us. They really do.
Posted by: CAS (---.dia.static.qwest.net)
Date: August 23, 2016 11:57AM

Cornell football's last win over a team other than Columbia was Nov. 23, 2013.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016 - They love us. They really do.
Posted by: Ken711 (---.hr.hr.cox.net)
Date: August 23, 2016 08:18PM

CAS
Cornell football's last win over a team other than Columbia was Nov. 23, 2013.

Yikes.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: CU2007 (160.254.108.---)
Date: September 23, 2016 01:39PM

[cornellsun.com]

What planet am I on? How is this offensive to anyone? It's a hat.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: underskill (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: September 23, 2016 01:40PM

BS complaints like that is why Trump is about to become president
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: billhoward (---.sub-70-214-110.myvzw.com)
Date: September 23, 2016 02:00PM

CU2007
[cornellsun.com]

What planet am I on? How is this offensive to anyone? It's a hat.
Easy. It's considered, by some, to be cultural appropriation, or one culture taking elements of another culture, especially from an emerging culture. So if you bring back a sombrero souvenir from Senor Frog, you might be criticized for wearing it when you return from Cancun. Wearing lederhosen might be appropriating from the German culture, although unless you are tall and not husky, looking silly is punishment enough.

You may think this is all BS and you would not be alone. But it's important to at least understand there can be this kind of conflict on campus that didn't exist a generation ago.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: September 23, 2016 03:31PM

billhoward
CU2007
[cornellsun.com]

What planet am I on? How is this offensive to anyone? It's a hat.
Easy. It's considered, by some, to be cultural appropriation, or one culture taking elements of another culture, especially from an emerging culture. So if you bring back a sombrero souvenir from Senor Frog, you might be criticized for wearing it when you return from Cancun. Wearing lederhosen might be appropriating from the German culture, although unless you are tall and not husky, looking silly is punishment enough.

You may think this is all BS and you would not be alone. But it's important to at least understand there can be this kind of conflict on campus that didn't exist a generation ago.
You are right that this conflict didn't exist on campus a generation ago. But that has nothing to do with whether ir is legitimate or not.

This whole "cultural appropriation" thing is ridiculous. People that complain that a dining hall serves tacos or someone wears lederhosen or whatever should be ridiculed. The article paraphrases the MEChA rep syaing "continuous desensitization across college campus to different cultures". That's a good thing. People shouldn't be so goddamn sensitive about stupid things. This isn't a case of negative stereotyping. There are plenty of things in the world worth worrying about - we shouldn't be inventing new ones.

Just to go over the top here, complaining about cultural appropriation is un-American. Our whole culture is based on appropriating things from other cultures. The melting pot thing, you know?
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: shasta1 (---.fltg.net)
Date: September 24, 2016 09:27AM

The athletic department was criticized a few years back regarding a Cinco de Mayo event. I don't remember all the details but Jeff Hall took the blame instead of the Athletic Director who ultimately signs off on everything going on.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/24/2016 09:28AM by shasta1.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: shasta1 (---.fltg.net)
Date: September 24, 2016 09:39AM

Found it
[www.bizpacreview.com]
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: September 24, 2016 01:32PM

ILDN had very good picture quality for today's field hockey game (1-0 loss to Penn at home).

It still amazes me that we have the ability to stream these events in realtime. It's like the Louis C.K. routine: "you're riding in a chair in the sky!"
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/24/2016 01:33PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016 - They love us. They really do.
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: September 24, 2016 01:52PM

ugarte
FYP
They genuinely did not look bad against Bucknell. We'll see whether they get their doors blown off by the Eli today. Sagarin has Cornell at 218 and Yale at 199, with Yale a 4.5 favorite at a neutral site, meaning this game at Schoellkopf is Yale -1.8
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/24/2016 01:58PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: September 24, 2016 03:58PM

Well so far, to coin a phrase, holy fucking shit.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Johnny 5 (---.sub-70-195-138.myvzw.com)
Date: September 24, 2016 04:02PM

I don't mean to be the eternal optimist, but....Cornell 21-Yale 3, going into halftime?

GBR!! cheer
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: semsox (---.hsd1.va.comcast.net)
Date: September 24, 2016 04:12PM

Trotsky
Well so far, to coin a phrase, holy fucking shit.

Seriously. What is going on
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: margolism (---.tmodns.net)
Date: September 24, 2016 04:22PM

Add three more

24-3 going into halftime.

I believe our current QB is not the prized recruit either.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Johnny 5 (---.sub-70-195-138.myvzw.com)
Date: September 24, 2016 04:31PM

And, here I am in the RV in the wilds of Pennsyleffingtucky, no wifi, one cell bar...and, I'm stuck with watching the stats roll by for the game of the century!? Better pop another brewski!!
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: dag14 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: September 24, 2016 05:49PM

That was even more fun than last week!
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.atclnj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: September 24, 2016 06:10PM

Trotsky
...holy fucking shit.

Umm...what he said.wow
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: nyc94 (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: September 24, 2016 06:21PM

First 2-0 start since 2009, coincidentally against same two opponents. That season ended 2-8.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: margolism (---.tmodns.net)
Date: September 24, 2016 06:29PM

I think this makes Cornell 3-1 in their last four games.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Johnny 5 (---.sub-70-195-138.myvzw.com)
Date: September 24, 2016 08:22PM

Ok,...lets not be a Debbie Downer here.
I mean we're looking at a hockey team expected to finish, what? 5th??
The lacrosse team? The basketball team?
Please, just let me enjoy the moment!?
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016 - They love us. They really do.
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: September 24, 2016 08:47PM

ugarte
billhoward
Don't see any obvious W's among the four Cornell games that are televised. Although Brown without Dylan Molloy's supporting cast may not be very - um, wrong sport. [www.cornellbigred.com]

Oct 8 At Harvard
Oct 22 At Brown
Oct 29 Princeton
Nov 19 Penn
FYP
more than happy to eat crow. wheeeeeeee

 
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: September 24, 2016 10:38PM

nyc94
First 2-0 start since 2009, coincidentally against same two opponents. That season ended 2-8.
LOL. Touché. ;)
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: September 24, 2016 10:39PM

But for one week, enjoy.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: September 25, 2016 12:43AM

Trotsky
But for one week, enjoy.
Gotta wonder if the guy running that page went to Yale and is trolling by not considering the game a conference win.

 
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: September 25, 2016 11:38AM

ugarte
Trotsky
But for one week, enjoy.
Gotta wonder if the guy running that page went to Yale and is trolling by not considering the game a conference win.
It's been amended now. :-)
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Dafatone (---.midco.net)
Date: September 26, 2016 03:01PM

My cousin's a freshman at Cornell and is sports-obsessed. I credit him for our football success.

Yes, I've told him to buy hockey tickets. Repeatedly.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016 - Yale game honors
Posted by: billhoward (---.sub-70-192-64.myvzw.com)
Date: September 26, 2016 05:24PM

[www.ivyleague.com]

IvyLeagye.come
PRINCETON, N.J. -- Cornell and Dartmouth swept the Ivy League football weekly awards after signature wins over the weekend.

OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE WEEK
Cornell sophomore quarterback Dalton Banks (San Antonio) led the Big Red to a 27-13 win over Yale in the Ivy League opener for both teams, passing for 306 yards and two touchdowns with no turnovers. He completed 23-of-32 passes, including 15-of-16 in the first half for 235 yards and two touchdowns as the Big Red raced out to a 24-3 halftime advantage. Cornell is 2-0 to start the season for the first time since 2009.

Banks is the first Big Red to be named Offensive Player of the Week since Jeff Mathews on Nov. 25, 2013.

Banks’ Statistics for the Week
23-32-0, 71.9 Completion %, 306 Yds., 2 TDs; 13 Rushes, 20 Yds.


...

SPECIAL TEAMS PLAYER OF THE WEEK
Cornell sophomore placekicker Zach Mays (Las Vegas) continued his hot start to the season, hitting both of his field goals and all three of his extra point attempts in the Big Red’s 27-13 win over Yale. His first field goal came as time expired in the first half and pushed Cornell’s lead to 24-3. Mays recorded four touchbacks on five kickoffs, and the Big Red special teams was up to the task on the only kickoff Yale returned, stopping the runner at the 17-yard-line.

Mays takes home Special Teams Player of the Week for the second-straight week to become the first Big Red to earn two such awards in the same year since Brad Greenway in 2011.

Mays’ Statistics for the Week
2-2 FG, 37 Lg., 3-3 XP, 9 Pts.; 5 KO, 4 TB


Honor Roll

Chris Fraser, Cornell (Sr., P – Bakersfield, Calif.)
7 Punts, 282 Yds., 40.3 Avg., 50 Lg., 4 in20, 3 FC, 2 TB

Jackson Weber, Cornell (Sr., LB – Whitefish Bay, Wis.)
9 Tckls., 2 Asst., 11 Total, 1 TFL, 4 Yds., 1 INT, 7 Yds., 1 BrUp



 
Re: Cornell Football 2016 - Yale game honors
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: September 27, 2016 07:38AM

TWC will be showing the Colgate game this Sat. (at least in the Albany, Syracuse, Rochester and Buffalo areas) They'll also show Army @ Colgate hockey that night. You'll get to see their new rink, while us Ivy Leaguers twiddle our thumbs.

 
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016 @ Colgate
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: October 01, 2016 10:14AM

Good luck to the Big Red. The game at Colgate may be Cornell's toughest game of the season other than Harvard. Colgate is #25 in the FCS polls. Harvard is #19, Dartmouth also receives votes. [www.ncaa.com]
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016 @ Colgate
Posted by: Chris '03 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: October 01, 2016 12:11PM

billhoward
Good luck to the Big Red. The game at Colgate may be Cornell's toughest game of the season other than Harvard. Colgate is #25 in the FCS polls. Harvard is #19, Dartmouth also receives votes. [www.ncaa.com]

In the process of getting blown out at home against Penn last night, Dartmouth's QB had an all time sequence of int, int, safety on three straight plays. NBCSN broadcast was a tough listen.

 
___________________________
"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016 @ Colgate
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: October 01, 2016 01:57PM

Colgate 21-0 after 1 quarter. A little better in Q2: 21-2.

Meanwhile New York's College Team, or whatever Syracuse calls itself, and Notre Dame scored 60 points in the first half. Notre Dame built a 9-6 lead without a field goal or safety (instead, a blocked PAT return). ... and a school we played regularly a generation ago, Rutgers, is getting schooled by TOSU 51-0. If that makes us feel any better.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/01/2016 02:31PM by billhoward.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016 @ Colgate
Posted by: margolism (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: October 01, 2016 03:35PM

A little closer now.

38-33 Colgate, 3rd quarter

Colgate is a top 25 team, with a well-regarded defense, and it is there homecoming.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: margolism (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: October 01, 2016 04:29PM

39-38 Cornell, Final
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: October 01, 2016 10:56PM

When was the last time Cornell started the season 3-0?
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: margolism (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: October 02, 2016 12:07AM

According to the Cornell web site, last 3-0 start was 2008.

The last time Cornell defeated a ranked school, on the road, was a bit further back....1950.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Ken711 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 02, 2016 10:02PM

margolism
According to the Cornell web site, last 3-0 start was 2008.

The last time Cornell defeated a ranked school, on the road, was a bit further back....1950.

That 2008 team lost 6 of the final 7 games to finish 4-6 btw.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016 - @Colgate honors Banks, Frimel, Fraser
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: October 04, 2016 02:44PM

Cornell QB Dalton Banks is co-player of the week, again, along with the Harvard QB. Banks threw for 454 and 5 TDs; Harvard's Joe Viviano threw for 210 and 3 TDs. Cornell's Kurt Frimel was the defensive player of the week. Punter Chris Fraser was special teams player of the week. [www.ivyleague.com]

Ivy League release

CO-OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE WEEK
Cornell sophomore quarterback Dalton Banks led the Big Red to a come-from-behind 39-38 win at No. 25 Colgate. Banks completed 25-of-45 passes for 454 yards and five touchdowns. Banks was at his best on the game’s final drive after the Big Red got the ball back at its own 43, marching the visitors 57 yards in six plays and the game-winning TD. The 454 passing yards rank eighth in a single game in Cornell history, while his four touchdown passes were one off the top school mark.

Banks Statistics for the Week
25-of-45, 55.6 Completion %, 454 Yds., 4 TDs

DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE WEEK

Cornell junior Kurt Frimel had two of the biggest defensive plays of the day in the Big Red’s win at No. 25 Colgate as part of a 10-tackle day. Frimel’s 4-yard sack in the second quarter got Cornell on the board with a safety. Then, trailing 38-33 with less than two minutes left, Frimel got into the backfield to stop a Colgate ball-carrier on fourth-and-4 to give Cornell a chance it would convert for the game-winning touchdown.

Frimel’s Statistics for the Week
6 tckls., 4 asst., 10 total, 1 sack, 2 TFL


SPECIAL TEAMS PLAYER OF THE WEEK

Chris Fraser’s ability to flip the field was instrumental in Cornell’s road win at No. 25 Colgate. He punted three times and pinned the Raiders inside their own 7 yard line all three times at the 2, 7 and 4 yard lines. Fraser, a preseason first-team All-American, averaged 36.0 yards and didn’t allow a return yard while punting on short fields all day long.

Fraser’s Statistics for the Week
3 punts, 108 yards
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016 - @Colgate honors Banks, Frimel, Fraser
Posted by: BearLover (---.hfc.comcastbusiness.net)
Date: October 04, 2016 04:17PM

billhoward
Cornell QB Dalton Banks is co-player of the week, again, along with the Harvard QB. Banks threw for 454 and 5 TDs; Harvard's Joe Viviano threw for 210 and 3 TDs. Cornell's Kurt Frimel was the defensive player of the week. Punter Chris Fraser was special teams player of the week. [www.ivyleague.com]

Ivy League release

CO-OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE WEEK
Cornell sophomore quarterback Dalton Banks led the Big Red to a come-from-behind 39-38 win at No. 25 Colgate. Banks completed 25-of-45 passes for 454 yards and five touchdowns. Banks was at his best on the game’s final drive after the Big Red got the ball back at its own 43, marching the visitors 57 yards in six plays and the game-winning TD. The 454 passing yards rank eighth in a single game in Cornell history, while his four touchdown passes were one off the top school mark.

Banks Statistics for the Week
25-of-45, 55.6 Completion %, 454 Yds., 4 TDs

DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE WEEK

Cornell junior Kurt Frimel had two of the biggest defensive plays of the day in the Big Red’s win at No. 25 Colgate as part of a 10-tackle day. Frimel’s 4-yard sack in the second quarter got Cornell on the board with a safety. Then, trailing 38-33 with less than two minutes left, Frimel got into the backfield to stop a Colgate ball-carrier on fourth-and-4 to give Cornell a chance it would convert for the game-winning touchdown.

Frimel’s Statistics for the Week
6 tckls., 4 asst., 10 total, 1 sack, 2 TFL


SPECIAL TEAMS PLAYER OF THE WEEK

Chris Fraser’s ability to flip the field was instrumental in Cornell’s road win at No. 25 Colgate. He punted three times and pinned the Raiders inside their own 7 yard line all three times at the 2, 7 and 4 yard lines. Fraser, a preseason first-team All-American, averaged 36.0 yards and didn’t allow a return yard while punting on short fields all day long.

Fraser’s Statistics for the Week
3 punts, 108 yards
A dominant team in all three phases.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016 - @Colgate honors Banks, Frimel, Fraser
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.cws.sco.cisco.com)
Date: October 05, 2016 04:21PM

We gave up 38 points. Doesn't sound like we were all that dominant on defense. rolleyes
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016 - @Colgate honors Banks, Frimel, Fraser
Posted by: ugarte (---.177.169.163.ipyx-102276-zyo.zip.zayo.com)
Date: October 06, 2016 12:20PM

Jeff Hopkins '82
We gave up 38 points. Doesn't sound like we were all that dominant on defense. rolleyes

Think of it as two different games. Lost the first 31-12; won the second 27-7. The defense was good in the "second" game.

 
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016 - @Colgate honors Banks, Frimel, Fraser
Posted by: scoop85 (---.nyc.biz.rr.com)
Date: October 06, 2016 02:24PM

ugarte
Jeff Hopkins '82
We gave up 38 points. Doesn't sound like we were all that dominant on defense. rolleyes

Think of it as two different games. Lost the first 31-12; won the second 27-7. The defense was good in the "second" game.

I do think we're vulnerable to a power rushing team -- Our D-line still seems on the smallish size and can be pushed around. Our linebackers and D-backs have been solid tacklers, however.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.sub-70-208-72.myvzw.com)
Date: October 08, 2016 10:39AM

If the wind picks up off the Charles it will turn the Stadium into a wind tunnel blowing from the closed toward the open end. Harvard is accustomed to dealing with this. Visiting teams are not. A big advantage. Want to run down the clock as much as you can going into the wind and do the opposite (e.g., no-huddle offense) with the wind behind, maximizing your number of plays with the wind.

 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Ken711 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 08, 2016 12:47PM

Al DeFlorio
If the wind picks up off the Charles it will turn the Stadium into a wind tunnel blowing from the closed toward the open end. Harvard is accustomed to dealing with this. Visiting teams are not. A big advantage. Want to run down the clock as much as you can going into the wind and do the opposite (e.g., no-huddle offense) with the wind behind, maximizing your number of plays with the wind.

Harvard's OL and DL are going to prove too strong for Cornell. Harvard wins this be 24 points.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016 @ Harvard - H29-13 (final)
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: October 08, 2016 01:15PM

Dalton Banks picked off on first play of game (receiver Shaw bobbles ball), Harvard returns to Cornell 6 and scores 2 plays later. Harvard 7-0. Could be a long afternoon? Maybe not: With 4 minutes to play in the first, Banks lofts a 41-yard pass to Rogers, who settles in under the ball in the end zone. Shades of Jeff Matthews. 7-7.

Halftime, Harvard 14-7. We're not winning but we're not en route to repeating last year's 40-3 pounding.

Third quarter, a long Harvard march (helped by a 15-yard targeting penalty / ejection against Cornell) puts Harvard up 20-7 (PAT block, almost run back for 2 points). Cornell quickly gets in Harvard territory then Banks is picked off in the end zone. Harvard next possession settles for a field goal. H23-7 about 3 minutes to play third. That keeps it a two-score game, the announcers note. Quarter ends Harvard 23-7

Harvard opens breathing room with a TD midway through the fourth; failed 2-point conversion. Harvard 29-7. Banks' arm gets Cornell another TD, 4 minutes to play. PAT kick hits the upright. Harvard 29-13. Failed onside kick gives Harvard the ball on its 40 with 4:10 left. Cornell gets the ball back with about :16 left and that's the game.

3 Cornell turnovers hurt especially the pick on the first play. Cornell looked decent. Harvard looked like Harvard.

Cornell's Dalton Banks was 19x39 passing, 2 TD, 3 Int. Attendance reported as 11,509. Box score: [www.cornellbigred.com]

It could have been a lot worse: Michigan 78, Rutgers 0.
Edited 12 time(s). Last edit at 10/08/2016 11:02PM by billhoward.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: October 08, 2016 02:25PM

Harvard up 14-7 at the half.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016 - @Colgate honors Banks, Frimel, Fraser
Posted by: margolism (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: October 08, 2016 02:52PM

Seems like Cornell is beating Cornell in this game. And the refs suck. Still a close game.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016 - @Colgate honors Banks, Frimel, Fraser
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: October 08, 2016 02:58PM

Missed a TD return by a shoelace. 7-20 but driving in the third.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: October 08, 2016 03:28PM

Harvard starting to show its class. 23-7 in the 4th. They play gorgeous football. It's encouraging that we're staying with them as much as we are.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: October 08, 2016 03:29PM

9 Harvard grads on NFL rosters. That's pretty damn impressive.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: October 08, 2016 03:35PM

We're certainly competitive today, just making too many mistakes. But a far cry from the way Harvard manhandled us last year.

Things are going in the right direction it seems, finally.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: October 08, 2016 04:16PM

Playing Harvard this close (despite the final score) is a huge step in the right direction.

 
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Ken711 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 08, 2016 08:00PM

Was the freshman Nick Null kicking did Zach Mays get hurt?
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: October 08, 2016 09:51PM

I heard Mays got hurt during the week - to what extent I don't know
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Ken711 (---.hr.hr.cox.net)
Date: October 10, 2016 09:46PM

scoop85
I heard Mays got hurt during the week - to what extent I don't know

Must have been serious, he's not listed in the Sacred Heart game notes depth chart. This could be a big factor if we are talking missed extra points and field goals.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Ken711 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 11, 2016 06:03PM

scoop85
I heard Mays got hurt during the week - to what extent I don't know

The word on the Ivy League Sports Board is he left the team and the school for personal reasons.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Ken711 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 18, 2016 02:23PM

Cornell WR coach Bobby Acosta has resigned for personal family reasons.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: scoop85 (207.158.132.---)
Date: October 18, 2016 02:45PM

Ken711
Cornell WR coach Bobby Acosta has resigned for personal family reasons.

That's too bad -- he seemed like a high energy positive guy
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Ken711 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 18, 2016 08:29PM

scoop85
Ken711
Cornell WR coach Bobby Acosta has resigned for personal family reasons.

That's too bad -- he seemed like a high energy positive guy

I hope the wheels aren't falling off Cornell's season with bad luck. First their kicker quits the team, then key injuries at their skill positions and now this mid-season coaching resignation. They need a win at Brown in the worst way. Unfortunately they have lost 8 straight games playing at Brown.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: ugarte (---.177.169.163.IPYX-102276-ZYO.zip.zayo.com)
Date: October 21, 2016 04:56PM

what the hell, ticketmaster

 

 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Scersk '97 (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: October 22, 2016 12:18PM

FoxSportsGo? Here I was looking "forward" to watching some Cornell football and it's on some obscure BS channel instead of the ILDN.

Sucks!!!

Are we paying Fox or are they paying us? If it's the former, there's no justification for it that makes any sense.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/22/2016 12:18PM by Scersk '97.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: October 22, 2016 12:33PM

If you have DirecTV it's on 608.

 
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Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Scersk '97 (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: October 22, 2016 01:13PM

TimV
If you have DirecTV it's on 608.

If I had access to the channel, I wouldn't be complaining.

In general, I have only fuming ire for the cable/satellite TV business model that holds us all hostage today.

In other news, I found myself a less-than-ideal pirate stream. Boy, it's Saturday afternoon and Brown can't score, no matter how often we hand the ball over to them.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/22/2016 01:17PM by Scersk '97.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: October 22, 2016 02:07PM

Scersk '97
Boy, it's Saturday afternoon and Brown can't score, no matter how often we hand the ball over to them.

Seems like Brown fixed that problem.

I noticed the Brown QB never actually puts his mouthguard in his mouth. I thought that was a requirement, but the rulebook only says the mouthguard is "required equipment." So I guess it's OK even if it's only tucked between the facemask And helmet.wtf

 
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Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Ken711 (---.hr.hr.cox.net)
Date: October 22, 2016 02:16PM

Cornell losing streak at Brown continues...soon to be 9 straight losses. Cornell may end up 3-7.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: October 22, 2016 02:19PM

Punt coverage sucks and now the OL is wheezing and Banks has nowhere to go.

 
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: October 22, 2016 02:30PM

ugarte
Punt coverage sucks and now the OL is wheezing and Banks has nowhere to go.
14-14 after Cornell recovers a fumble and runs it back to the 8 yard line. Probably should have been whistled dead at the spot of recovery but ... it was not. In the NFL that would have been a legit return. A few plays later, Banks tosses a TD pass to tie it.

Cornell promptly commits 2 personal fouls on the kickoff.

 
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (72.2.237.---)
Date: October 22, 2016 03:20PM

100 yards in penalties not helping.

 
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Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: October 22, 2016 03:54PM

Tough loss. Throwing under coverage on 4th and 10 and only getting 7. Yuck.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: October 22, 2016 03:55PM

good lord the playcalling in ot was shit. too many shots at the end zone; nothing over the middle. really no attempts to let a receiver get free except by running straight ahead. the ot touchdown was pretty but it was insane that it worked - banks was just not very accurate. the last play of the game was an example - deitz had room to run but the throw was shit and he had to reach for it and fell down.

also, the tackling was awful.

 

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/22/2016 03:59PM by ugarte.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: October 22, 2016 04:01PM

ugarte
good lord the playcalling in ot was shit. too many shots at the end zone; nothing over the middle. really no attempts to let a receiver get free except by running straight ahead. the ot touchdown was pretty but it was insane that it worked - banks was just not very accurate. the last play of the game was an example - deitz had room to run but the throw was shit and he had to reach for it and fell down.

also, the tackling was awful.

Yeah, I was scratching my head at all the shots to the end zone in OT. In general it seems that incremental movement is what works in those situations, but we seemed to get impatient. The 4th down play is what we should have been doing on 1st and 2nd down.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: CAS (---.sub-70-214-110.myvzw.com)
Date: October 22, 2016 07:09PM

Cornell is now 8-28 in the 4th year under David Archer
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/23/2016 09:13AM by CAS.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Ken711 (---.hr.hr.cox.net)
Date: October 22, 2016 09:10PM

CAS
Cornell is now 8-29 in the 4th year under David Archer

Even if Cornell ends up 3-7 (a possibility), Archer's job was saved by the 3-0 start.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: October 22, 2016 10:57PM

CAS
Cornell is now 8-29 in the 4th year under David Archer

I don't know how they'll end up, but they are surely much improved this year. Of course the bar was pretty low, but there's no denying the increased competitiveness
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: shasta1 (---.fltg.net)
Date: October 23, 2016 08:33AM

It was inexcusable to have a delay of game penalty after a timeout for goodness sake. How can that happen??? They could have nailed the win down at that point. I don't think a 3-0 start should save his job. He can not play call period.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: rss77 (---.twcny.rr.com)
Date: October 23, 2016 02:22PM

Losing Zach Mayes has truly hurt special teams. It is noted that long kickoff returns have occurred especially in the last two games since Mayes left school. Nick Nulle's foot not quite as strong.
Would like to see a better mix of pass and run on offense.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: October 23, 2016 03:14PM

shasta1
It was inexcusable to have a delay of game penalty after a timeout for goodness sake. How can that happen??? They could have nailed the win down at that point. I don't think a 3-0 start should save his job. He can not play call period.

Not quite sure which delay of game you mean. There was one that apparently was taken deliberately: to maximize the opportunity for Brown to jump offside and, if this failed, to give the kicker more room to pin Brown deep in its own end.

Was there another?
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 10/23/2016 03:15PM by Swampy.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: October 24, 2016 08:49AM

scoop85
CAS
Cornell is now 8-29 in the 4th year under David Archer

I don't know how they'll end up, but they are surely much improved this year. Of course the bar was pretty low, but there's no denying the increased competitiveness
Exactly. It didn't take long for the knives to come out after this overtime loss. Princeton (at Cornell) this Saturday will be tough. Princeton is improved after a 2-5 Ivy, 5-5 overall season last year. Last week Princeton took Harvard to OT before losing.
 
Re: Cornell Football 2016
Posted by: shasta1 (98.159.210.---)
Date: October 24, 2016 12:08PM

I was following game on internet so I may have missed game strategy. I was referencing the one at the end of fourth quarter.
 
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