Lacrosse 2012

Princeton is losing more than just (no-longer-eligible) seniors in lacrosse. Mike Chanenchuk, Ivy rookie of the year in 2010 and injured this year (and not in school since last fall), plans to transfer. Maybe to Maryland if it's not already a done deal. [weblogs.baltimoresun.com]

All-America attackman Jack McBride graduated this year but has a year of eligibility left (medical redshirt) and is shopping for someplace to play while in grad school. Lax people in NJ say Princeton sports doesn't have pull with its grad schools the way it does with Princeton undergrad, so McBride looked elsewhere. [laxmagazine.com]

Princeton still has a decent nucleus coming back: 2011 Ivy ROTY Tom Schreiber, the league's best goalie in rising senior Tyler Fiorito, and 3-time all-Ivy defender Chad Wiedmaier.

[edit add] When April rolls in maybe we should break this into a second thread

billhoward
Princeton is losing more than just (no-longer-eligible) seniors in lacrosse. Mike Chanenchuk, Ivy rookie of the year in 2010 and injured this year (and not in school since last fall), plans to transfer. Maybe to Maryland if it's not already a done deal. [weblogs.baltimoresun.com]

All-America attackman Jack McBride graduated this year but has a year of eligibility left (medical redshirt) and is shopping for someplace to play while in grad school. Lax people in NJ say Princeton sports doesn't have pull with its grad schools the way it does with Princeton undergrad, so McBride looked elsewhere. [laxmagazine.com]

Princeton still has a decent nucleus coming back: 2011 Ivy ROTY Tom Schreiber, the league's best goalie in rising senior Tyler Fiorito, and 3-time all-Ivy defender Chad Wiedmaier.

What does the Ivy League say about medical redshirts? One would think the "Any Study" part of Cornell's motto would fit McBride's academic aspirations, and while grad-school admissions can be more selective, he did get into Princeton.

Swampy

billhoward
Princeton is losing more than just (no-longer-eligible) seniors in lacrosse. Mike Chanenchuk, Ivy rookie of the year in 2010 and injured this year (and not in school since last fall), plans to transfer. Maybe to Maryland if it's not already a done deal. [weblogs.baltimoresun.com]

All-America attackman Jack McBride graduated this year but has a year of eligibility left (medical redshirt) and is shopping for someplace to play while in grad school. Lax people in NJ say Princeton sports doesn't have pull with its grad schools the way it does with Princeton undergrad, so McBride looked elsewhere. [laxmagazine.com]

Princeton still has a decent nucleus coming back: 2011 Ivy ROTY Tom Schreiber, the league's best goalie in rising senior Tyler Fiorito, and 3-time all-Ivy defender Chad Wiedmaier.

What does the Ivy League say about medical redshirts? One would think the "Any Study" part of Cornell's motto would fit McBride's academic aspirations, and while grad-school admissions can be more selective, he did get into Princeton.

I didn't think you could play in the Ivy League once you received your undergraduate degree, even if you missed a season with injury. When Bruce Cohen missed a season back in the 60s, in order to use his additional year of eligibility he had to continue in the five-year engineering program rather than take his degree in the newly-announced four year program. Seems to me there were recent examples of players from Dartmouth and (I think) Yale playing as grad students elsewhere, and even one of Cornell's kids (Christian Pastirik, a senior in 2009) playing as a grad student at Towson after missing his freshman and junior years at Cornell with injury.

Al DeFlorio

Swampy

billhoward
Princeton is losing more than just (no-longer-eligible) seniors in lacrosse. Mike Chanenchuk, Ivy rookie of the year in 2010 and injured this year (and not in school since last fall), plans to transfer. Maybe to Maryland if it's not already a done deal. [weblogs.baltimoresun.com]

All-America attackman Jack McBride graduated this year but has a year of eligibility left (medical redshirt) and is shopping for someplace to play while in grad school. Lax people in NJ say Princeton sports doesn't have pull with its grad schools the way it does with Princeton undergrad, so McBride looked elsewhere. [laxmagazine.com]

Princeton still has a decent nucleus coming back: 2011 Ivy ROTY Tom Schreiber, the league's best goalie in rising senior Tyler Fiorito, and 3-time all-Ivy defender Chad Wiedmaier.

What does the Ivy League say about medical redshirts? One would think the "Any Study" part of Cornell's motto would fit McBride's academic aspirations, and while grad-school admissions can be more selective, he did get into Princeton.

I didn't think you could play in the Ivy League once you received your undergraduate degree, even if you missed a season with injury. When Bruce Cohen missed a season back in the 60s, in order to use his additional year of eligibility he had to continue in the five-year engineering program rather than take his degree in the newly-announced four year program. Seems to me there were recent examples of players from Dartmouth and (I think) Yale playing as grad students elsewhere, and even one of Cornell's kids (Christian Pastirik, a senior in 2009) playing as a grad student at Towson after missing his freshman and junior years at Cornell with injury.

I also saw somewhere that McBride's father is a MD. I didn't think of this, but med school is one of the "any studies" that still wouldn't work for post-grad lax players (or any sport) or, for that matter, for undergraduate Doogie Howsers to be.

The Lacrosse Magazine link above talks about the ACC becoming a "haven for Ivy League lacrosse players with extra eligibility." You have to give the ACC credit, it knows how to game the system.

"Way-ahead 2012 rankings" from Inside Lacrosse's Christian Swezey: [insidelacrosse.com]

Al DeFlorio
"Way-ahead 2012 rankings" from Inside Lacrosse's Christian Swezey: [insidelacrosse.com]

In distantly related news, IL also previews the New York State High School championships. Although we appear to have a strong incoming class of recruits, a search of the preview page -- in which college commitments follow players' names in parentheses -- for "Cornell" just turns Firefox's search box red (ironic?).

While we might rationalize kids from IHS, playing for the Class A title, wanting to go to college away from Ithaca, it's hard to explain why no New York State player playing this weekend is planning to come to Cornell next year. With regents scholarships and several state-contracted schools, one would think we have an advantage recruiting in-state over, say, Harvard (2 players). I realize teams, not individual players, make the championships, so maybe NY State talent is elsewhere. Still, it's surprising that none of the in-state high-school players playing this weekend are planning to be on the hill next fall.

It's worse than that. I think Harvard has three or four players (two defensemen, a goaltender and a midfielder) that will be in the Under Armour All-American Game. Penn has at least one.Garden City must be a helluva good academic school with very influential guidance counsellors.

Connor Buczek selected to U.S. Men's U19 team. He's the only Cornell recruit on the list. Harvard has 3 (one a current frosh), as does Virginia. No other Ivy players named.

Swampy
Connor Buczek selected to U.S. Men's U19 team. He's the only Cornell recruit on the list. Harvard has 3 (one a current frosh), as does Virginia. No other Ivy players named.

Harvard is having a field day recruiting the "name" guys, but it hasn't fully paid off on the field. Similar to their recent hoops recruiting prowess; you wonder when (if) it will translate into at least an Ivy championship.

It hasn't helped them in the past. In the late 90's they had three Empire State Game stars, also from Garden City, I believe- two Bevilaqua brothers and John (?) Ferrucci. Result: zero championships, perhaps one NCAA tournament appearance - one and done, just like hockey. Of course, those were the years when Princeton was racking up national championships, so we weren't winning any either.

Class of 2015 listed.

Anybody else find it odd that we'll have four goalies next year? Seems like a squad spot that could have gone to another midfielder.

Ben
Anybody else find it odd that we'll have four goalies next year? Seems like a squad spot that could have gone to another midfielder.

Maybe they're good students regardless? I'd say we're also denying them to other schools, but word probably gets around when a coach overrecruits & stockpiles. So perhaps it just randomness ... coaches thought they'd get 2 of the 4 and they did better than expected?

I have trouble reading from the profiles and coach comments who's the next Max Seibald and who's going to be running third midfield, but it's great that almost school and its fans can feel good about their upcoming team.

And if we're being honest, goal is probably the weakest area on the team. Nothing wrong with recruiting a freshman to push the upperclassmen.

Wouldn't be surprised to see at least one of them convert to a D or LSM

According to Inside Lacrosse, we play UVA again in the kick-off classic. Early chance to exercise the demons.

scoop85
According to Inside Lacrosse, we play UVA again in the kick-off classic. Early chance to exercise the demons.

They've been "exercised" enough. They do, however, need to be exorcised.

Al DeFlorio

scoop85
According to Inside Lacrosse, we play UVA again in the kick-off classic. Early chance to exercise the demons.

They've been "exercised" enough. They do, however, need to be exorcised.

Hey, it's summer - waddya expect

All other things being equal I'd rather exorcise those demons in the end-of-season classic.

Perhaps if the exercise like demons they will play like demons. Red nasty demons with sticks that are hot from friction caused by their shots.

Speaking of exorcising demons, Laxpower reports that two Syracuse "student" athletes have been arrested for

laxpower
third-degree criminal mischief, attempted petit larceny, fifth-degree conspiracy and reckless endangerment of property.

Fifth-degree conspiracy sounds Masonic.

Swampy
Speaking of exorcising demons, Laxpower reports that two Syracuse "student" athletes have been arrested for

laxpower
third-degree criminal mischief, attempted petit larceny, fifth-degree conspiracy and reckless endangerment of property.

Sounds like a case of 1st degree drunk.

From today's Ithaca Journal:

Brandon Thomas
Ithaca High's Paolo Ciferri commits to play lacrosse at Syracuse. ...

Ciferri, a midfielder, committed earlier this month to play for Syracuse under coach John Desko after he graduates from Ithaca in the spring.
. . .
Ciferri's mother, Lyn Reitenbach, ranks sixth all-time in assists in the Cornell women's program's history and later served as the coach of the Ithaca High girls team. Ciferri also has two uncles -- Bruce and Keith Reitenbach -- who played on East Hill.

But he ended up following a different family member for his college lacrosse. Paolo's older sister, Marley Ciferri, has completed two seasons as an attack for the Orange women's team.

profudge
From today's Ithaca Journal:

Brandon Thomas
Ithaca High's Paolo Ciferri commits to play lacrosse at Syracuse. ...

Ciferri, a midfielder, committed earlier this month to play for Syracuse under coach John Desko after he graduates from Ithaca in the spring.
. . .
Ciferri's mother, Lyn Reitenbach, ranks sixth all-time in assists in the Cornell women's program's history and later served as the coach of the Ithaca High girls team. Ciferri also has two uncles -- Bruce and Keith Reitenbach -- who played on East Hill.

But he ended up following a different family member for his college lacrosse. Paolo's older sister, Marley Ciferri, has completed two seasons as an attack for the Orange women's team.

Bummer, lately we're having difficulty getting Ithaca kids; even though they have CU connections.

Jim Hyla

profudge
From today's Ithaca Journal:

Brandon Thomas
Ithaca High's Paolo Ciferri commits to play lacrosse at Syracuse. ...

Ciferri, a midfielder, committed earlier this month to play for Syracuse under coach John Desko after he graduates from Ithaca in the spring.
. . .
Ciferri's mother, Lyn Reitenbach, ranks sixth all-time in assists in the Cornell women's program's history and later served as the coach of the Ithaca High girls team. Ciferri also has two uncles -- Bruce and Keith Reitenbach -- who played on East Hill.

But he ended up following a different family member for his college lacrosse. Paolo's older sister, Marley Ciferri, has completed two seasons as an attack for the Orange women's team.

Bummer, lately we're having difficulty getting Ithaca kids; even though they have CU connections.

Who's to say for certain that he qualified academically to come to Cornell?

Beeeej

Jim Hyla

profudge
From today's Ithaca Journal:

Brandon Thomas
Ithaca High's Paolo Ciferri commits to play lacrosse at Syracuse. ...

Ciferri, a midfielder, committed earlier this month to play for Syracuse under coach John Desko after he graduates from Ithaca in the spring.
. . .
Ciferri's mother, Lyn Reitenbach, ranks sixth all-time in assists in the Cornell women's program's history and later served as the coach of the Ithaca High girls team. Ciferri also has two uncles -- Bruce and Keith Reitenbach -- who played on East Hill.

But he ended up following a different family member for his college lacrosse. Paolo's older sister, Marley Ciferri, has completed two seasons as an attack for the Orange women's team.

Bummer, lately we're having difficulty getting Ithaca kids; even though they have CU connections.

Who's to say for certain that he qualified academically to come to Cornell?

He is a legacy who can play lax for Syracuse. QED.

A 2013 goalie recruit: [laxlessons.com]

Not the best of showings at the Colleluori Classic, but I went back and checked...we didn't do all that well last year either (and Coach DeLuca wasn't particularly pleased with Cornell's showing).

Ben
Not the best of showings at the Colleluori Classic, but I went back and checked...we didn't do all that well last year either (and Coach DeLuca wasn't particularly pleased with Cornell's showing).

One has to go with what Coach DeLuca says, but the Cornell 2012 forum on Laxpower has more details. Many of the contributors are former Cornell laxmen, so the posts are very knowledgeable.

2012 Schedule Announcement and Schedule.

Nothing particularly exciting, all of the same opponents as last year, except there's no Stony Brook, which means only 6 non-conference games. Does anyone know if this is due to a change in Ivy rules?

Inside Lacrosse "checks-in" with the Big Red in an article posted today: [insidelacrosse.com]

Lengthy injury list apparently a factor in fall practices and scrimmages.

Al DeFlorio
Inside Lacrosse "checks-in" with the Big Red in an article posted today: [insidelacrosse.com]

Lengthy injury list apparently a factor in fall practices and scrimmages.

Good news at least that none of the injured seems in jeopardy of missing time this spring. Also interesting that Buczek seems slated for the midfield. The battle in goal should be interesting.

Rather thoughtful preview of the 2012 Ivy League season by 'gotigers' on this laxpower thread. Scroll down a bit.

[network.laxpower.com]

Laxpower reports that we'll be playing Denver at Hofstra on March 20.

[insidelacrosse.com]

Faceoff classic tickets are now on sale

Is Cornell going to sell tickets too or?

Inside Lacrosse names Pannell, Lang, and Noble pre-season first-team All-Americans (although the genii at cornellbigred.com think Lang is second team), and give Bronzino honorable mention.

[insidelacrosse.com]

Al DeFlorio
Inside Lacrosse names Pannell, Lang, and Noble pre-season first-team All-Americans (although the genii at cornellbigred.com think Lang is second team), and give Bronzino honorable mention.

[insidelacrosse.com]

cornellbigred.com article now fixed...with a little prodding.

It's been long-rumored, but now confirmed that Connor English, who left Virginia after last season, is transferring to Cornell.

[insidelacrosse.com]

flyersgolf
[insidelacrosse.com]

What, my link wasn't good enough?

Does lax have a transfer waiting period or can he play immediately?

If UVa releases him, he is eligible immediately. The Inside Lax article seems to indicate he is eligible.

Anybody know why he left UVa?

Jeff Hopkins '82
Anybody know why he left UVa?

Not sure, but I'd guess playing time. English was the #7 ranked recruit coming out of secondary school and played little at UVa, with even less time as a sophomore than as a freshman. Why the lack of playing time I can't answer. Maybe his high school skills didn't transfer to the college game. Maybe a wrong style for Starsia's offensive concept. Maybe he didn't get along with Starsia. Don't really know. His pointed comments about De Luca in the IL article are clear, however.

Jeff Hopkins '82
Anybody know why he left UVa?

Too many warm sunny days?

TimV

Jeff Hopkins '82
Anybody know why he left UVa?

Too many warm sunny days?

Maybe, after seeing his chances shrink at UVa, he just looked at what Dave and Eric Pittard did after transferring from UVa to Cornell and felt he'd get a similar opportunity.

Dave Pittard transferred from Navy, not UVA. In addition, the Pittard family is from upstate NY so Cornell was a logical alternative for two players who found themselves less than completely satisfied with their chosen college.

I'd love to see him bring some defensemen with him.

Pannell wins IJ's Van Sickle Award as male athlete of the year.

Al DeFlorio

TimV

Jeff Hopkins '82
Anybody know why he left UVa?

Too many warm sunny days?

Maybe, after seeing his chances shrink at UVa, he just looked at what Dave and Eric Pittard did after transferring from UVa to Cornell and felt he'd get a similar opportunity.

Wow, completely had forgotten that Pittard was a transfer from UVA, thanks for the reminder.

The Long Island Lizzards took Rob Pannell first overall in the MLL draft today. The Rochester Rattlers took Roy Lang 11th overall. Other Ivy Leaguers taken are Princeton's Chad Wiedmaier (7th, Hamilton Nationals), Princeton's Fiorto (10th, Chesapeak Bayhawks), and Harvard's Kevin Vaugh (14th, Denver Outlaws).

Great news fo Pannell and Lang. I don't really know anything about the MLL though (I got all this from the Ivy League Atheletic's Twitter page: [twitter.com] ), does this mean that Pannell and Lang won't be playing for Cornell this spring or will they finish out their collegiate careers before going pro? I would hate to lose Panell and Lang for their senior season.

jtn27
The Long Island Lizzards took Rob Pannell first overall in the MLL draft today. The Rochester Rattlers took Roy Lang 11th overall. Other Ivy Leaguers taken are Princeton's Chad Wiedmaier (7th, Hamilton Nationals), Princeton's Fiorto (10th, Chesapeak Bayhawks), and Harvard's Kevin Vaugh (14th, Denver Outlaws).

Great news fo Pannell and Lang. I don't really know anything about the MLL though (I got all this from the Ivy League Atheletic's Twitter page: [twitter.com] ), does this mean that Pannell and Lang won't be playing for Cornell this spring or will they finish out their collegiate careers before going pro? I would hate to lose Panell and Lang for their senior season.

Don't worry, Pannell and Lang will both be suiting up in the spring. In other Cornell Lacrosse related news, Pannell will get to play again with Max Seibald, who was traded to Long Island earlier this evening.

Full list of players taken in the draft. Two other Cornellians were taken, both in the sixth round: Chris Langton (42nd overall by Ohio) and J. J. Gilbane (48th overall by Boston).

Lacrosse Season Outlook by CornellBigRed.

semsox reported a 10-3 Cornell halftime lead in the Hopkins scrimmage this afternoon. Another report said Rob Pannell is not playing. Sure would like to see a scrimmage report here on eLynah.

Al DeFlorio
semsox reported a 10-3 Cornell halftime lead in the Hopkins scrimmage this afternoon. Another report said Rob Pannell is not playing. Sure would like to see a scrimmage report here on eLynah.

There's some info over on the Cornell forum at Laxpower. We seem to have dominated, even without Pannell and some other top players. Over at the JHU forum they're blaming the Blue Jay's performance on the cold & snow -- Wooses

Al DeFlorio
semsox reported a 10-3 Cornell halftime lead in the Hopkins scrimmage this afternoon. Another report said Rob Pannell is not playing. Sure would like to see a scrimmage report here on eLynah.

Wish I had more to report, but my own information was just second hand from Twitter and other places one might find little tidbits. I too am anxiously awaiting any more details from the scrimmage. Additionally, I am pumped for this season. Feels like it's as good a chance to hoist the hardware at the end of the season as we will have for awhile.

semsox

Al DeFlorio
semsox reported a 10-3 Cornell halftime lead in the Hopkins scrimmage this afternoon. Another report said Rob Pannell is not playing. Sure would like to see a scrimmage report here on eLynah.

Wish I had more to report, but my own information was just second hand from Twitter and other places one might find little tidbits. I too am anxiously awaiting any more details from the scrimmage. Additionally, I am pumped for this season. Feels like it's as good a chance to hoist the hardware at the end of the season as we will have for awhile.

Right. All the stuff on laxpower is second-hand. I'm hoping VeryRustyRed was at the scrimmage and will post his reactions on that laxpower thread.

Putting up a ten-spot at halftime against Quint's #2 defense in the country--while playing without the reigning player of the year--is, shall we say, encouraging.

Al DeFlorio

semsox

Al DeFlorio
semsox reported a 10-3 Cornell halftime lead in the Hopkins scrimmage this afternoon. Another report said Rob Pannell is not playing. Sure would like to see a scrimmage report here on eLynah.

Wish I had more to report, but my own information was just second hand from Twitter and other places one might find little tidbits. I too am anxiously awaiting any more details from the scrimmage. Additionally, I am pumped for this season. Feels like it's as good a chance to hoist the hardware at the end of the season as we will have for awhile.

Right. All the stuff on laxpower is second-hand. I'm hoping VeryRustyRed was at the scrimmage and will post his reactions on that laxpower thread.

Putting up a ten-spot at halftime against Quint's #2 defense in the country--while playing without the reigning player of the year--is, shall we say, encouraging.

Al, I think VRR posted on Laxpower that he would not be at the scrimmage, so unfortunately we won't get his insights.

scoop85

Al DeFlorio

semsox

Al DeFlorio
semsox reported a 10-3 Cornell halftime lead in the Hopkins scrimmage this afternoon. Another report said Rob Pannell is not playing. Sure would like to see a scrimmage report here on eLynah.

Wish I had more to report, but my own information was just second hand from Twitter and other places one might find little tidbits. I too am anxiously awaiting any more details from the scrimmage. Additionally, I am pumped for this season. Feels like it's as good a chance to hoist the hardware at the end of the season as we will have for awhile.

Right. All the stuff on laxpower is second-hand. I'm hoping VeryRustyRed was at the scrimmage and will post his reactions on that laxpower thread.

Putting up a ten-spot at halftime against Quint's #2 defense in the country--while playing without the reigning player of the year--is, shall we say, encouraging.

Al, I think VRR posted on Laxpower that he would not be at the scrimmage, so unfortunately we won't get his insights.

I think I do remember that. Guess we should keep an eye on the Cornell and Hop threads on laxpower. Last year Inside Lacrosse had "notes" on the scrimmage. Just keep googling, I guess.

At last, a first-hand report on the Hopkins scrimmage--albeit it first-half only: [network.laxpower.com]

Al DeFlorio
At last, a first-hand report on the Hopkins scrimmage--albeit it first-half only: [network.laxpower.com]

Here's a direct link to the post Al mentioned. My favorite part about the discussion (after all the nice things said about our lacrosse team, of course) is all the different names people mentioned for what I thought was universally known as the Ewing Theory.

Josh '99

Al DeFlorio
At last, a first-hand report on the Hopkins scrimmage--albeit it first-half only: [network.laxpower.com]

Here's a direct link to the post Al mentioned. My favorite part about the discussion (after all the nice things said about our lacrosse team, of course) is all the different names people mentioned for what I thought was universally known as the Ewing Theory.

Pretty sure Ewing Theory doesn't apply here. Pannell is far too good.

Dan Freshman's notes on the scrimmage here on Inside Lacrosse: [insidelacrosse.com]

Ben

Josh '99

Al DeFlorio
At last, a first-hand report on the Hopkins scrimmage--albeit it first-half only: [network.laxpower.com]

Here's a direct link to the post Al mentioned. My favorite part about the discussion (after all the nice things said about our lacrosse team, of course) is all the different names people mentioned for what I thought was universally known as the Ewing Theory.

Pretty sure Ewing Theory doesn't apply here. Pannell is far too good.

And may now be known as the Anthony-Stoudemire Hypothesis.

BU to add Division I lacrosse: [insidelacrosse.com]

Red Hot Lacrosse in Giants Stadium?

Al DeFlorio
BU to add Division I lacrosse: [insidelacrosse.com]

Red Hot Lacrosse in Giants Stadium?

They can play their games at their football stadi-oooohhhhh.

[magazine.insidelacrosse.com]

Pannell and Stanwick on cover...

Slightly OT, but while waiting for the Hobart game, you might be interested in this interesting interview with a 2012 recruit about himself, Andrew West, and Andrew's younger brother Henry, who's also coming to the hill.

Notre Dame beats Duke (and its #1 midfield, according to Quint) 7-3.

Al DeFlorio
Notre Dame beats Duke (and its #1 midfield, according to Quint) 7-3.

As much as I want to gloat, and I do want to gloat, the Irish have won this early season game three years in a row now. It didn't hurt Duke the last two years.

I think by virtue of having bought lax tickets for a Cornell NCAA game or the Faceoff Classic, this comes from M&T Bank Stadium in Baltimore. Anybody else get this? Anybody understand how it relates to lacrosse? "The fastest destructive sport on 8-foot wheels"?

>>> The Advance Auto Parts Monster Jam, Path of Destruction M&T Bank Stadium Saturday, June 2, 2012 at 7:00 P.M
Welcome to Monster Jam, an incredible family-friendly experience starring the biggest performers on four wheels: Monster Jam monster trucks. These twelve-feet-tall, ten-thousand-pound machines will bring you to your feet, racing and ripping up a custom-designed track full of obstacles to soar over - OR smash through. Monster Jam provides a massive night's entertainment tailored perfectly for your family's budget, and these colorful, larger-than-life beasts are sure to capture the hearts of both young and old. Plus this summer, the biggest Monster Jam superstars will unleash big air and car-crushing carnage when they hit Baltimore's M&T Bank Stadium on June 2nd with the Advance Auto Parts Monster Jam Path of Destruction tour.

billhoward
I think by virtue of having bought lax tickets for a Cornell NCAA game or the Faceoff Classic, this comes from M&T Bank Stadium in Baltimore. Anybody else get this? Anybody understand how it relates to lacrosse? "The fastest destructive sport on 8-foot wheels"?

>>> The Advance Auto Parts Monster Jam, Path of Destruction M&T Bank Stadium Saturday, June 2, 2012 at 7:00 P.M
Welcome to Monster Jam, an incredible family-friendly experience starring the biggest performers on four wheels: Monster Jam monster trucks. These twelve-feet-tall, ten-thousand-pound machines will bring you to your feet, racing and ripping up a custom-designed track full of obstacles to soar over - OR smash through. Monster Jam provides a massive night's entertainment tailored perfectly for your family's budget, and these colorful, larger-than-life beasts are sure to capture the hearts of both young and old. Plus this summer, the biggest Monster Jam superstars will unleash big air and car-crushing carnage when they hit Baltimore's M&T Bank Stadium on June 2nd with the Advance Auto Parts Monster Jam Path of Destruction tour.

I don't think this event or their email about it has any more to do with lacrosse than your post about them does.

billhoward
I think by virtue of having bought lax tickets for a Cornell NCAA game or the Faceoff Classic, this comes from M&T Bank Stadium in Baltimore. Anybody else get this? Anybody understand how it relates to lacrosse? "The fastest destructive sport on 8-foot wheels"?

>>> The Advance Auto Parts Monster Jam, Path of Destruction M&T Bank Stadium Saturday, June 2, 2012 at 7:00 P.M
Welcome to Monster Jam, an incredible family-friendly experience starring the biggest performers on four wheels: Monster Jam monster trucks. These twelve-feet-tall, ten-thousand-pound machines will bring you to your feet, racing and ripping up a custom-designed track full of obstacles to soar over - OR smash through. Monster Jam provides a massive night's entertainment tailored perfectly for your family's budget, and these colorful, larger-than-life beasts are sure to capture the hearts of both young and old. Plus this summer, the biggest Monster Jam superstars will unleash big air and car-crushing carnage when they hit Baltimore's M&T Bank Stadium on June 2nd with the Advance Auto Parts Monster Jam Path of Destruction tour.

The relation is that M&T Bank Stadium wants more money.

billhoward
I think by virtue of having bought lax tickets for a Cornell NCAA game or the Faceoff Classic, this comes from M&T Bank Stadium in Baltimore. Anybody else get this? Anybody understand how it relates to lacrosse? "The fastest destructive sport on 8-foot wheels"?

>>> The Advance Auto Parts Monster Jam, Path of Destruction M&T Bank Stadium Saturday, June 2, 2012 at 7:00 P.M
Welcome to Monster Jam, an incredible family-friendly experience starring the biggest performers on four wheels: Monster Jam monster trucks. These twelve-feet-tall, ten-thousand-pound machines will bring you to your feet, racing and ripping up a custom-designed track full of obstacles to soar over - OR smash through. Monster Jam provides a massive night's entertainment tailored perfectly for your family's budget, and these colorful, larger-than-life beasts are sure to capture the hearts of both young and old. Plus this summer, the biggest Monster Jam superstars will unleash big air and car-crushing carnage when they hit Baltimore's M&T Bank Stadium on June 2nd with the Advance Auto Parts Monster Jam Path of Destruction tour.

Only communists don't enjoy monster trucks.

FWIW I got one, too.

Jeff Hopkins '82
FWIW I got one, too.

How do you like your monster truck Jeff? Is it really twelve feet tall? Have you achieved car-crushing carnage yet?

KenP

Jeff Hopkins '82
FWIW I got one, too.

How do you like your monster truck Jeff? Is it really twelve feet tall? Have you achieved car-crushing carnage yet?

My monster truck is 'Murican as apple pie.

Michigan gets its first win in first varsity lacrosse season, 14-4 over Mercer, in Florida. Now 1-5. [www.annarbor.com]

Michigan is playing its home games indoors at Oosgterbaan Field House, a 40-year-old building with FieldTurf added and seating for 800 and now this year 1000 students. [www.mgoblue.com] Its real purpose is explained by the name of the adjacent building: Schembechler Hall

[clear]

In the USILA poll for 3/5/12, Cornell vaults from seventh to third, behind Virginia and Johns Hopkins. Inside Lacrosse (sorry, Nike Inside Lacrosse) still third with one first-place vote and five Ivy League schools in the top 20.

USILA  [www.usila.org]
Divison I - Week 3
March 5, 2012
 
Rank Team Record Points Previous Week  
1 Virginia 5-0           180(9) 1 
2 Johns Hopkins 4-0      168 2 
3 Cornell 2-0            154 7 
4 Maryland 3-0           151 5 
5 UMass 4-0              149 6 
6 Syracuse 2-1           138 3 
7 Notre Dame  2-1        117 9 
8 North Carolina 4-1     102 4 
9 Loyola 3-0             100 11 
10 Penn State  3-1        98 13 
11 Duke 3-2               85 10 
12 Villanova 3-1          79 8 
13 Denver 3-1             73 14 
14 Princeton 2-1          63 12 
15 Yale 2-0               62 16 
16 Lehigh 4-1             54 nr 
17 Fairfield 4-0          38 20 
18 Delaware 3-3           24 nr 
19 Hofstra 2-2            11 nr 
20 Ohio State  3-2         9 17 
Also receiving votes: Harvard, Drexel, Dartmouth, Colgate, Army

Inside Lacrosse [insidelacrosse.com]

Rank  Team                        Points 1st Place Votes   
1 UVA University of Virginia         437 20   
2 JHU Johns Hopkins University       408 1   
3 CORNELL Cornell University         392 1   
4 ND University of Notre Dame        363    
5 UNC University of North Carolina   360    
6 SYRACUSE Syracuse University       327    
7 MARYLAND University of Maryland    301    
8 DUKE Duke University               280    
9 VILLANOVA Villanova University     258    
10 UMASS University of Massachusetts 228    
11 DENVER University of Denver       209    
12 OSU Ohio State University         192    
13 HOFSTRA Hofstra University        140    
14 PRINCETON Princeton University    139    
15 HARVARD Harvard University        110    
16 LOYOLA Loyola University           87    
17 PENN University of Pennsylvania    84    
18 YALE Yale University               70    
19 COLGATE Colgate University         60    
20 PSU Penn State University          57    
Also Receiving Votes
Drexel University , University of Delaware , Bucknell University , Fairfield University , Georgetown University , Siena College , Army , University of Hartford , Robert Morris University , Navy ,  

Not sure why Penn should be in the top 20 given record to date.

Al DeFlorio
Not sure why Penn should be in the top 20 given record to date.

The pro-Southern lax bias starts around the Delaware River.

billhoward

Al DeFlorio
Not sure why Penn should be in the top 20 given record to date.

The pro-Southern lax bias starts around the Delaware River.

But it usually seems to work only if you're east of it, i.e. Princeton.

billhoward
Michigan gets its first win in first varsity lacrosse season, 14-4 over Mercer, in Florida. Now 1-5. [www.annarbor.com]

Michigan is playing its home games indoors at Oosgterbaan Field House, a 40-year-old building with FieldTurf added and seating for 800 and now this year 1000 students. [www.mgoblue.com] Its real purpose is explained by the name of the adjacent building: Schembechler Hall

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This is so not right. Lacrosse should be played outdoors in almost any weather if the weather dictates a postponement so be it, that is the way the Lacrosse gods meant the game to be played. There should be a rule, even if we need to grandfather Syracuse and their wussy dome.

Towerroad

billhoward
Michigan gets its first win in first varsity lacrosse season, 14-4 over Mercer, in Florida. Now 1-5. [www.annarbor.com]

Michigan is playing its home games indoors at Oosgterbaan Field House, a 40-year-old building with FieldTurf added and seating for 800 and now this year 1000 students. [www.mgoblue.com] Its real purpose is explained by the name of the adjacent building: Schembechler Hall

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This is so not right. Lacrosse should be played outdoors in almost any weather if the weather dictates a postponement so be it, that is the way the Lacrosse gods meant the game to be played. There should be a rule, even if we need to grandfather Syracuse and their wussy dome.

And the field should go from treeline to treeline, the sticks should be wooden with pockets such that you can actually knock the ball free. But I don't think any of those things will happen either.

billhoward
Michigan gets its first win in first varsity lacrosse season, 14-4 over Mercer, in Florida. Now 1-5. [www.annarbor.com]

Michigan is playing its home games indoors at Oosgterbaan Field House, a 40-year-old building with FieldTurf added and seating for 800 and now this year 1000 students. [www.mgoblue.com] Its real purpose is explained by the name of the adjacent building: Schembechler Hall

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Actually, its purpose is revealed by its own name. Bennie Oosterbaan was Michigan's football coach in the 40s and 50s, and was All-American in both football and basketball at Michigan.

Al DeFlorio
Not sure why Penn should be in the top 20 given record to date.

There's a ton of discrepancy between those two polls; turns out it's because the Inside Lacrosse poll Bill posted is from February 20th. Here's the current Nike/IL poll, in which we're still 3rd but don't have any first-place votes (and which for some reason has 20 voters when the 2/20 poll had 22 and the 2/27 poll had 24).

Jim Hyla

Towerroad

billhoward
Michigan gets its first win in first varsity lacrosse season, 14-4 over Mercer, in Florida. Now 1-5. [www.annarbor.com]

Michigan is playing its home games indoors at Oosgterbaan Field House, a 40-year-old building with FieldTurf added and seating for 800 and now this year 1000 students. [www.mgoblue.com] Its real purpose is explained by the name of the adjacent building: Schembechler Hall

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This is so not right. Lacrosse should be played outdoors in almost any weather if the weather dictates a postponement so be it, that is the way the Lacrosse gods meant the game to be played. There should be a rule, even if we need to grandfather Syracuse and their wussy dome.

And the field should go from treeline to treeline, the sticks should be wooden with pockets such that you can actually knock the ball free. But I don't think any of those things will happen either.

I am not a complete Luddite. I have no problem with the modern sticks although I learned with a wooden one nor do I mind the current field size. But for me Lacrosse has been a harbinger of spring. It starts cold and nasty and with luck ends in the sunshine of Memorial Day. I feel the same way about baseball. You need to be a little tough to play spring sports in the North but you need to be tough to play Lacrosse. If you want to play inside take up basket ball or box lacrosse.

Word is, Pannell out until mid-April at the earliest and barring a miracle.

Well, he'll be back in time for the tournament, so we can qual... nevermind. (I'm not worried about qualifying for NCAAs, even without him. Seeding aside, should I be?)

I'm more worried this injury will keep him out longer than 6 weeks, and possibly the season. If that's a possibility, I have to imagine Rob has lots of scenarios going through his head right now, most of them not the best.

Final score: Cornell 19 - Canisius 4

Jeff Hopkins '82
Final score: Cornell 19 - Canisius 4

"Looks like we don't need Rob Pannell after all. Ewing Theory, right!?" - an idiot

semsox
I'm more worried this injury will keep him out longer than 6 weeks, and possibly the season. If that's a possibility, I have to imagine Rob has lots of scenarios going through his head right now, most of them not the best.

ARRRGH.

Let's say he's not 100% by late-April. What are the odds that he could get a medical redshirt for this season? Yale's Jeff Hamilton played 2 hockey games in 2000 and was granted one.

RichH

semsox
I'm more worried this injury will keep him out longer than 6 weeks, and possibly the season. If that's a possibility, I have to imagine Rob has lots of scenarios going through his head right now, most of them not the best.

ARRRGH.

Let's say he's not 100% by late-April. What are the odds that he could get a medical redshirt for this season? Yale's Jeff Hamilton played 2 hockey games in 2000 and was granted one.

I was wondering that too but figured there must be some Ivy League rule against it, which would mean if it happened, he would finish his career at another school. Am I mistaken? I didn't have any information that said that specifically, just assumed because of all the other crazy Ivy League restrictions.

Brian Delany of ESPN Radio's local Ithaca station on Rob Pannell (from Twitter [url=

If you missed it, Inside Lacrosse reported today Pannell had surgery to repair a broken foot suffered v. Army.

— Brian Delaney (@BDelaney_1160) March 6, 2012

]here[/url] and [url=

Ben DeLuca says he cant go into specifics re: Pannell but wont rule out a season ending injury. "Could be."

— Brian Delaney (@BDelaney_1160) March 6, 2012

]here[/url]):

[quote="Brian Delany"]
If you missed it, Inside Lacrosse reported today Pannell had surgery to repair a broken foot suffered v. Army.
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[quote="Brian Delany"]
Ben DeLuca says he cant go into specifics re: Pannell but wont rule out a season ending injury. "Could be."
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Doesn't sound good.

Ronald '09

RichH

semsox
I'm more worried this injury will keep him out longer than 6 weeks, and possibly the season. If that's a possibility, I have to imagine Rob has lots of scenarios going through his head right now, most of them not the best.

ARRRGH.

Let's say he's not 100% by late-April. What are the odds that he could get a medical redshirt for this season? Yale's Jeff Hamilton played 2 hockey games in 2000 and was granted one.

I was wondering that too but figured there must be some Ivy League rule against it, which would mean if it happened, he would finish his career at another school. Am I mistaken? I didn't have any information that said that specifically, just assumed because of all the other crazy Ivy League restrictions.

You can get a medical redshirt in the Ivy League. However, IIRC, the Ivy League prohibits grad students from playing, so if he were granted a medical redshirt, he'd have to take the semester off, and not graduate after first semester next year.

A lot of nonsense being posted about Pannell's status and it's just time to knock off the speculation. One post asks, "what if he is out for the season", and then it takes off from there. Can he redshirt? Where will he play next year? and so on and so forth.... Over on the UVA Sabre message board they are already saying that two Pannell's will be playing at UVA next year. I for one will just wait for six weeks and hope we can navigate our way through Virginia (very tough), Yale, Denver, Penn, Dartmouth and Harvard and with Syracuse up next, hope and pray he is okay by then.

Yikes! Penn 10, UNC 6. Sacred Heart 13, Yale 12. UMBC 8, Maryland 7.