We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by stereax
Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: stereax (---.static.firstlight.net)
Date: April 27, 2025 03:33PM
Please tell me you guys understand what satire is.George64
Well, it was just a matter of time! According to the Cornell Daily Sun, Kotlikoff folds. “A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking real money,” channeling Everitt Dirksen.
Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.229.167.165.res-cmts.sm3.ptd.net)
Date: April 27, 2025 03:42PM
stereax
Please tell me you guys understand what satire is.George64
Well, it was just a matter of time! According to the Cornell Daily Sun, Kotlikoff folds. “A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking real money,” channeling Everitt Dirksen.
So they switched the joke issue to 4/20. That works.
Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: George64 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: April 27, 2025 05:38PM
stereax
Please tell me you guys understand what satire is.George64
Well, it was just a matter of time! According to the Cornell Daily Sun, Kotlikoff folds. “A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking real money,” channeling Everitt Dirksen.
I was a math major, but I still understand satire. But for those who don’t, The Sun offered a disclaimer — “Editor’s Note: 4/20 content is a part of The Sun’s joke issue and contains exaggerated and factually inaccurate information.”
I shared this story with a young friend and he replied — “Back in our years, the parody came out on the Friday of Fall Weekend. I remember my freshman year’s issue well because none of us on the floor knew it was coming and that year, November 1965, the banner headline was that all student draft deferments were being cancelled, for the obvious reason. That morning, starting at about 7:00, people were lined up in the hallways to use the telephone to call home.” There was no disclaimer, so it was genuinely scary. For those of you who never knew life without mobile phones, in mercifully-gone University Halls, there was only one wall-mounted phone in each corridor!
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Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: stereax (---.static.firstlight.net)
Date: April 27, 2025 07:41PM
War of the Worlds-esque. Wow.George64
stereax
Please tell me you guys understand what satire is.George64
Well, it was just a matter of time! According to the Cornell Daily Sun, Kotlikoff folds. “A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking real money,” channeling Everitt Dirksen.
I was a math major, but I still understand satire. But for those who don’t, The Sun offered a disclaimer — “Editor’s Note: 4/20 content is a part of The Sun’s joke issue and contains exaggerated and factually inaccurate information.”
I shared this story with a young friend and he replied — “Back in our years, the parody came out on the Friday of Fall Weekend. I remember my freshman year’s issue well because none of us on the floor knew it was coming and that year, November 1965, the banner headline was that all student draft deferments were being cancelled, for the obvious reason. That morning, starting at about 7:00, people were lined up in the hallways to use the telephone to call home.” There was no disclaimer, so it was genuinely scary. For those of you who never knew life without mobile phones, in mercifully-gone University Halls, there was only one wall-mounted phone in each corridor!
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Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: George64 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: April 28, 2025 09:06AM
Took me awhile to get this. I first thought of the Wells novel, not the radio broadcast.stereax
War of the Worlds-esque. Wow.George64
November 1965, the banner headline was that all student draft deferments were being cancelled, for the obvious reason. That morning, starting at about 7:00, people were lined up in the hallways to use the telephone to call home.”
Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 28, 2025 12:14PM
Fun fact: there is no evidence the War of the Worlds caused a panic. It is a classic urban legend.stereax
War of the Worlds-esque. Wow.
Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: stereax (172.56.4.---)
Date: April 28, 2025 03:43PM
Wikipedia (I know) says there was definitively SOME unrest and worry, but that it was also likely played up by the newspapers.Trotsky
Fun fact: there is no evidence the War of the Worlds caused a panic. It is a classic urban legend.stereax
War of the Worlds-esque. Wow.
Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: George64 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: April 28, 2025 08:14PM
Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: George64 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: April 28, 2025 08:24PM
George64
In my inbox this morning -
Livestream with President Michael I. Kotlikoff
Monday, April 21, 11:30 - 12:15 p.m. EDT
Don’t forget: Tune in today to hear directly from President Kotlikoff! He’ll share insights into managing today’s challenging higher education environment.
Should be interesting!
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Now streaming on vimeo
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Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: George64 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: April 30, 2025 02:45PM
George64
The Trump administration has frozen more than $1 billion in funding for Cornell and $790 million for Northwestern amid civil rights investigations into both schools, two administration officials said.
The funding pause involves mostly grants and contracts with the departments of Agriculture, Defense, Education and Health and Human Services, said the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the unannounced decision.
Interesting article in today’s NY Times, Where Federal Dollars Flow to Universities Around the Country. Cornell is highlighted in one of the charts. Interesting how much of Johns Hopkins research budget comes from federal funding - 87 percent, compared to 49 percent for Cornell. Another interesting comparison - Hopkins lacrosse team is currently 6-8, and 0-5 in the Big 10, while Cornell is 12-1. Think Milliman’s days are numbered?
Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 30, 2025 05:24PM
George64
He reached for the brass ring and quite possibly fell off the horse instead.George64
Another interesting comparison - Hopkins lacrosse team is currently 6-8, and 0-5 in the Big 10, while Cornell is 12-1. Think Milliman’s days are numbered?
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Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: May 03, 2025 01:30PM
This ticket good to redeem the next ten years of puncture snark I would otherwise have felt the need to post here. I think we can all thank the author.
Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: May 07, 2025 09:50AM
Since apparently this timeline could even get worse, does the campus ever have India v Pakistan protests?
Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: stereax (---.static.firstlight.net)
Date: May 08, 2025 04:06PM
Not that I know of.Trotsky
Since apparently this timeline could even get worse, does the campus ever have India v Pakistan protests?
Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: George64 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: May 15, 2025 05:38PM
Ithaca Voice with more details on stop-work orders for cancer and defense research.
Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: May 18, 2025 10:44AM
you would think if we join forces the board could buy this and people would have a place to stay when they come in for hockey games.
house for sale
house for sale
Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: Scersk '97 (216.49.132.---)
Date: May 18, 2025 12:41PM
upprdeck
you would think if we join forces the board could buy this and people would have a place to stay when they come in for hockey games.
house for sale
Am I mistaken, or is that where Charlie Moore invited the band over when he became AD?
Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: David Harding (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: May 18, 2025 03:56PM
upprdeck
you would think if we join forces the board could buy this and people would have a place to stay when they come in for hockey games.
house for sale
IIRC, Cornell bought the house in the 1950's when Malott's wife refused to live in the A.D. White house on-campus. It seems to me that Corson continued to live in his own house. Maybe Kotlikoff has no interest in moving, either, but surely there will be another president after him and it seems a grand place for social functions.
Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: nyc94 (---.lio01.hntn.ct.ip.frontiernet.net)
Date: May 18, 2025 04:13PM
Not sure if it's correct but
[www.reddit.com]
[www.reddit.com]
Edmund Ezra Day was the last president to live in the A.D. White House on central campus. For his successor, Deane Malott, the university rented, renovated, and eventually purchased 205 Oak Hill Road. He was given this house for life as a retirement gift, and the university purchased the 511 Cayuga Heights Road property in 1963 for James Perkins—one theory being that this property was farther away from campus and therefore more difficult for students to stage protests at.
Dale Corson chose not to move in after Perkins' resignation, so Cornell sold it. They purchased 603 Cayuga Heights Road for Frank Rhodes, which too became a retirement gift. With a "special" alumni gift, the university then re-purchased Robin Hill for Hunter Rawlings in 1995, after which Lehman, Skorton, and Pollock also took residence.
Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: David Harding (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: May 18, 2025 04:45PM
nyc94
Not sure if it's correct but
[www.reddit.com]
Edmund Ezra Day was the last president to live in the A.D. White House on central campus. For his successor, Deane Malott, the university rented, renovated, and eventually purchased 205 Oak Hill Road. He was given this house for life as a retirement gift, and the university purchased the 511 Cayuga Heights Road property in 1963 for James Perkins—one theory being that this property was farther away from campus and therefore more difficult for students to stage protests at.
Dale Corson chose not to move in after Perkins' resignation, so Cornell sold it. They purchased 603 Cayuga Heights Road for Frank Rhodes, which too became a retirement gift. With a "special" alumni gift, the university then re-purchased Robin Hill for Hunter Rawlings in 1995, after which Lehman, Skorton, and Pollock also took residence.
I think that's right. I only had part of the story in my mind. [www.ithaca.com] [www.cayugaheightshistory.org]
Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: Chris '03 (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: May 19, 2025 01:37PM
Scersk '97
upprdeck
you would think if we join forces the board could buy this and people would have a place to stay when they come in for hockey games.
house for sale
Am I mistaken, or is that where Charlie Moore invited the band over when he became AD?
It looks like where they invited the band and hosted “hats off for hunter” to recognize his (first) retirement in 2003.
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"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."
Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: George64 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: May 20, 2025 10:52AM
Cornell only mentioned in a table in this NY Times article. It appears that our large enrollment may soften the impact from the proposed endowment tax. At the moment, it’s progressive tax based on endowment per student.
Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: Roy 82 (136.226.6.---)
Date: June 11, 2025 05:49PM
HeafDog
Good.I would rather we go flat broke, and our beloved alma mater turn into a ghost town, than buckle to these clowns.
I'm not sure how this relates to Cornell's own legal action but there was a lot of press recently about how Cornell and Columbia were the only Ivies that didn't officially support Harvard's legal action. I'll leave legal terms like "Amicus Brief" to the experts.
Crimson article on who is supporting Harvard[/url
If Cornell is not offering support due to its own separate legal action then that is one thing. But I hope we are not cowering in fear.
(BTW the formatting issues with this post are due to eLynah processing of a URL insertion.)
Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: George64 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: June 11, 2025 09:54PM
Here is the administration’s response to my April 17 email to Kotlikoff:
Thank you for your message to President Kotlikoff, which I am sharing with leadership. President Kotlikoff deeply appreciates the engagement of our community. I wanted to share information about how Cornell is responding to recent changes in the federal and higher education landscapes.
Cornell is actively seeking details from federal officials regarding research funding freezes reported in the news media. While the university has not received any official notice confirming these cuts or the rationale behind them, we have experienced substantial federal research funding loss across every campus and within every college and school. The research at risk is vital to public health and medicine, military readiness and national security, and a range of U.S. industries.
We are responding thoughtfully and strategically – including legal, communications and policy-level engagement to reverse these cuts and protect our core mission. When federal agencies imposed funding cuts to research activities sponsored by the National Institutes of Health and the Department of Energy, Cornell swiftly stepped forward, along with higher education groups and other leading research universities, to challenge these actions in court.
In April, President Kotlikoff joined more than 550 leaders and officials from other institutions to sign on to a letter from the American Association of Colleges & Universities calling for constructive engagement between higher education and government. Cornell leadership continues to be guided by our foundational commitment to “... any person ... any study” and our institutional principles.
Alongside peer institutions, we’re collectively showcasing the tangible, everyday impact of Cornell’s research to our state, nation, and world, and the value of colleges and universities to educating our nation’s citizens and workers. We hope you can join us by sharing this website with your fellow alumni and networks.
Sincerely,
Sarah Evans
Sarah Evans
Staff Writer & Correspondence Manager
Offices of the President and Provost
Cornell University
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Thank you for your message to President Kotlikoff, which I am sharing with leadership. President Kotlikoff deeply appreciates the engagement of our community. I wanted to share information about how Cornell is responding to recent changes in the federal and higher education landscapes.
Cornell is actively seeking details from federal officials regarding research funding freezes reported in the news media. While the university has not received any official notice confirming these cuts or the rationale behind them, we have experienced substantial federal research funding loss across every campus and within every college and school. The research at risk is vital to public health and medicine, military readiness and national security, and a range of U.S. industries.
We are responding thoughtfully and strategically – including legal, communications and policy-level engagement to reverse these cuts and protect our core mission. When federal agencies imposed funding cuts to research activities sponsored by the National Institutes of Health and the Department of Energy, Cornell swiftly stepped forward, along with higher education groups and other leading research universities, to challenge these actions in court.
In April, President Kotlikoff joined more than 550 leaders and officials from other institutions to sign on to a letter from the American Association of Colleges & Universities calling for constructive engagement between higher education and government. Cornell leadership continues to be guided by our foundational commitment to “... any person ... any study” and our institutional principles.
Alongside peer institutions, we’re collectively showcasing the tangible, everyday impact of Cornell’s research to our state, nation, and world, and the value of colleges and universities to educating our nation’s citizens and workers. We hope you can join us by sharing this website with your fellow alumni and networks.
Sincerely,
Sarah Evans
Sarah Evans
Staff Writer & Correspondence Manager
Offices of the President and Provost
Cornell University
.
Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: George64 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: June 11, 2025 10:39PM
George64
Here is the administration’s response to my April 17 email to Kotlikoff:
Thank you for your message to President Kotlikoff, which I am sharing with leadership. President Kotlikoff deeply appreciates the engagement of our community. I wanted to share information about how Cornell is responding to recent changes in the federal and higher education landscapes.
Cornell is actively seeking details from federal officials regarding research funding freezes reported in the news media. While the university has not received any official notice confirming these cuts or the rationale behind them, we have experienced substantial federal research funding loss across every campus and within every college and school. The research at risk is vital to public health and medicine, military readiness and national security, and a range of U.S. industries.
We are responding thoughtfully and strategically – including legal, communications and policy-level engagement to reverse these cuts and protect our core mission. When federal agencies imposed funding cuts to research activities sponsored by the National Institutes of Health and the Department of Energy, Cornell swiftly stepped forward, along with higher education groups and other leading research universities, to challenge these actions in court.
In April, President Kotlikoff joined more than 550 leaders and officials from other institutions to sign on to a letter from the American Association of Colleges & Universities calling for constructive engagement between higher education and government. Cornell leadership continues to be guided by our foundational commitment to “... any person ... any study” and our institutional principles.
Alongside peer institutions, we’re collectively showcasing the tangible, everyday impact of Cornell’s research to our state, nation, and world, and the value of colleges and universities to educating our nation’s citizens and workers. We hope you can join us by sharing this website with your fellow alumni and networks.
Sincerely,
Sarah Evans
Sarah Evans
Staff Writer & Correspondence Manager
Offices of the President and Provost
Cornell University
You might also want to read President Kotlikoff’s State of the University address.
Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: stereax (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: June 11, 2025 10:54PM
Roy, bud, you forgot this: ]Roy 82
HeafDog
Good.I would rather we go flat broke, and our beloved alma mater turn into a ghost town, than buckle to these clowns.
I'm not sure how this relates to Cornell's own legal action but there was a lot of press recently about how Cornell and Columbia were the only Ivies that didn't officially support Harvard's legal action. I'll leave legal terms like "Amicus Brief" to the experts.
Crimson article on who is supporting Harvard
If Cornell is not offering support due to its own separate legal action then that is one thing. But I hope we are not cowering in fear.
(BTW the formatting issues with this post are due to eLynah processing of a URL insertion.)
Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: George64 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: June 22, 2025 12:26PM
Friday’s NY Times: “And in a statement on Wednesday ominously titled “a message on financial austerity,” leaders at Cornell, which also has a substantial endowment, described a dire landscape.”
Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: billhoward (45.137.76.---)
Date: June 24, 2025 02:39PM
This from the Ithaca Voice. Says Cornell headcount [one assumes this to mean to employees not stoners] grew wildly the last 3-4 years. Maybe Cornell did not replace some departed staff during the Covid years and then overdid the hiring:
Our 15th president, in addition to being a solid hoops fan, is master of the dry understatement.Matt Butler, EIC, The Ithaca Voice
Cornell President Michael Kotlikoff and other university leaders delivered the news via a campus-wide email Wednesday [6/18/25] afternoon.
The letter announced the initiation of a “comprehensive review of programs and headcount across the university,” caused by a 15% growth in the workforce since 2021 that has, in Kotlikoff’s words, “greatly outpac[ed] our revenue.”
[ithacavoice.org]
Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: Iceberg (172.56.216.---)
Date: June 24, 2025 05:46PM
billhoward
This from the Ithaca Voice. Says Cornell headcount [one assumes this to mean to employees not stoners] grew wildly the last 3-4 years. Maybe Cornell did not replace some departed staff during the Covid years and then overdid the hiring:
Our 15th president, in addition to being a solid hoops fan, is master of the dry understatement.Matt Butler, EIC, The Ithaca Voice
Cornell President Michael Kotlikoff and other university leaders delivered the news via a campus-wide email Wednesday [6/18/25] afternoon.
The letter announced the initiation of a “comprehensive review of programs and headcount across the university,” caused by a 15% growth in the workforce since 2021 that has, in Kotlikoff’s words, “greatly outpac[ed] our revenue.”
[ithacavoice.org]
No doubt they overhired like many other private organizations within and outside of the higher education sector. They're just a bit late in reducing headcount because it looks much worse when a university does it compared to a Deloitte or a Meta.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/24/2025 06:36PM by Iceberg.
Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 25, 2025 07:10PM
I think they forget that the head count has been down and they are trying to fill lines that were in the budget but have been empty.
Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: billhoward (155.133.4.---)
Date: June 26, 2025 07:52PM
When headcount is relative to the Covid years then maybe there was some extra positions to fill. But a little part of us all suspects academia doesn't run as lean as, say, Google.
Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: George64 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: July 01, 2025 09:35AM
Finally, some good news! Will Professor Steve Strogatz do for math what Carl Sagan did for science?
Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: July 01, 2025 10:46AM
Can't access the Times, but Strogatz co-authored a brilliant piece of instructional software for differential equations that was sold by Addison-Wesley back in the 90s.George64
Finally, some good news! Will Professor Steve Strogatz do for math what Carl Sagan did for science?
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
Al DeFlorio '65
Re: We're gonna be in the news again
Posted by: George64 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: July 01, 2025 11:34AM
Try archivebuttons.com: [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/01/insider/math-revealed.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare]Al DeFlorio
Can't access the Times, but Strogatz co-authored a brilliant piece of instructional software for differential equations that was sold by Addison-Wesley back in the 90s.George64
Finally, some good news! Will Professor Steve Strogatz do for math what Carl Sagan did for science?
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