clarkson @ cornell, ecachl second round chatter

That Rodent forum struck me as the reaction when some self important jock hears that a woman he had a one night stand with is telling everyone he's only got four inches.

"Methinks they doth protest too much."

oops, age is right
no idea where rosas came from. damn wine! sorry drew

RichH

Drew

Post-game...I love the Chapter House on Stewart Ave. for unwinding, and they have a great selection, upwards of 30 beers. Dunbar's is the hockey dive straight up the hill from Chapter House, but you may not want to go there with opposing clothes.

Would it help if I had a well-worn cornell Lacrosse cap on? With a Clarkson jersey of sweater of course.

Drew
Great JTW, appreciate the insight, I will literally be a last minute decision. Last question, can I make in 4 hours from NYC? I am in Westchester 1/2 hour from the city to be exact.

Drew, does this mean we're not riding up together? You're killin' me buddy.

As for drinking, we need to start early in the day so that we can hit my favorite watering hole in Binghamton on the way. Good drink, good grub, and best of all perhaps....no annoying faithful.....lol.

Actually, I look forward to a few pre or post game brews with you guys. Just don't stain my "Taylor" Tech jersey.

Rich, Gimme a break man, I sent you a PM take it off line.

BTW take a look at the posts, the guys have been pretty helpful and far from "annoying" and if I roll into their campus I expect some good natured ribbing from them, as I have a beer, its all part of the college game.

Rich S
As for drinking, we need to start early in the day so that we can hit my favorite watering hole in Binghamton on the way. Good drink, good grub, and best of all perhaps....no annoying faithful.....lol.

So, what's the name of this place?

Depends on where you are in Westchester. It's been a long time, but it used to take about 4.5 hours from Eastchester to Ithaca. No major road changes in intervening years.

Bio '04
Definitely lots of complaining on that board, but I have to admit that this possible shirt slogan was funny, especially with all the talk about the lack of scoring:

Cornell Hockey. Offense is Offensive.

Even Better: "Only the Pope scores More."

Faithful, be ready...

ninian '72
Depends on where you are in Westchester. It's been a long time, but it used to take about 4.5 hours from Eastchester to Ithaca. No major road changes in intervening years.

Not to start another 200 post thread about driving to Ithaca but I have made it from just south of Danbury, CT to Ithaca in 3 and half hours. In these instances I would wait about 45 minutes before calling home to say I had arrived "safely". Anyway, the biggest factor is how long it takes you to get to whatever highway you plan on taking (I-84?) and how many tractors you get stuck behind on Route 79 into Ithaca. The closer it gets to game time the more cars you'll encounter on 79. I just made it for the anthems at the Nov. 2004 Harvard game.

nyc94
Not to start another 200 post thread about driving to Ithaca ...

Not my intention. Just providing him with a frame of reference from a spot in south central Westchester.

nyc94
The closer it gets to game time the more cars you'll encounter on 79. I just made it for the anthems at the Nov. 2004 Harvard game.

That sounds like my experience when I drove up with Molly. We were trying to get to that game in time for warmups but were relieved to get there by the anthems (I think). Lesson learned- leave before noon if coming from DC because driving through Harrisburg is a real pain.

ninian '72

nyc94
Not to start another 200 post thread about driving to Ithaca ...

Not my intention. Just providing him with a frame of reference from a spot in south central Westchester.

I was actually referring to my own post dragging this out further.

That one strikes me as a bit off. Shouldn't it be "only the Pope scores less" or "even the Pope scores more"?

They are trying to insinuate that Cornell can't score, and by saying only the Pope scores more that's leaving out every other team - shouldn't they all score more than Cornell if "offense is offensive."

I think that makes sense in my head

RichH
Pregame, I suggest Ruloff's on College Ave. Right near the entrance to campus, and walkable to Lynah...they also have food. The Nines is another block down the road, and has good deep-dish pizza as well as beer...but you have to wait a long time for pizza, usually.

Post-game...I love the Chapter House on Stewart Ave.

I hate Ruloff's, but maybe that's just me. The burgers are probably best in Ithaca outside of making them yourself, I have to give them that, but I avoid it. Maybe I'm more crochety than I thought. . .

The secret to The Nines, if you're in a hurry, is to call ahead for take out. That usually takes 20 minutes or so, but I'm not sure how they'll take it if you then try to eat there - maybe you can eat it at the bar. If it's not too crowded I dont think they'd care much. If you're running late, you can grab the box and go eat at the game.

If you want a quick sit-down meal you can try the Souvlaki House on Eddy Street, down the block from Dunbars. They only have cheap mass-market beer, if that's an issue, but I hear they have the best Chicago-style pizza in town. Vietnam Restaurant on Dryden Road, half a block uphill from College Ave, has no booze, but it's the best bang for your buck in Ithaca provided you're not allergic to MSG.

Avoid all Chinese and Thai food in Collegetown. It's cheap, quick, and TERRIBLE.

One more option, somewhat more expensive than everything (excpet Ruloff's) mentioned, is Aladdin's Natural Eatery on Dryden Road, half a block down the hill from College Ave. If you're into Mediterranean-ish food with lots of vegetarian options, then it's a good place for you. I think they have a decent beer/wine list, but I could be wrong about that - I only really go in there when I have to have a falafel sandwich. I can't even tell you if they're good falafels - I'm just addicted to them.

Post-Game, the Chappy used to be my favorite bar, but beware the live music. Recently it's always been packed (no music), incredibly loud (bad music), or both (decent music). If there's music on Friday/Saturday, expect a cover (usually between 5 and 10 dollars). Honestly, the best day to go is Monday/Tuesday - I think those are no music nights where it's not too crowded.

Good lord, I am getting crochety, and way before my time, too.

Tom Lento
I hate Ruloff's, but maybe that's just me. The burgers are probably best in Ithaca outside of making them yourself, I have to give them that, but I avoid it.

Despite the fact that you didn't give any reasons for your dislike, I'll leave it to Drew & company to make their choice. I'm no regular at Ruloff's either, but I suggested it for our Clarkson friends because 1) it's not too deep into Collegetown and convenient to campus 2) it has a good kitchen during the day if they want snacks with their beer, and 3) it feels like a bar, as opposed to a restaurant that serves beer. The Palms and Dinos don't have that "pregame beer" type feeling for me. Collegetown Bagels still doesn't feel like a place to have a beer to me. I think Ruloff's was voted one of the top college bars (or something like that) by Playboy magazine.

[Q]Post-Game, the Chappy used to be my favorite bar, but beware the live music. Recently it's always been packed (no music), incredibly loud (bad music), or both (decent music). If there's music on Friday/Saturday, expect a cover (usually between 5 and 10 dollars). Honestly, the best day to go is Monday/Tuesday - I think those are no music nights where it's not too crowded.[/Q]

Good point. They usually have a band/cover charge on Saturday nights. Friday nights are usually clear. A couple of us went to CH after the Dartmouth game (Friday), and got a table in the back room. We had plenty of room and there wasn't a noise problem at all. But hey, maybe people would be up for checking out part of the local music scene for $5. A check of their website shows that there's a band (CD release party) on Saturday night.
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Good lord, I am getting crochety, and way before my time, too.

Don't worry, Tom. It happens to the best of us.

Tom Lento
Avoid all Chinese and Thai food in Collegetown. It's cheap, quick, and TERRIBLE.

I have no issue with the sit down portion of Little Thai House. I mean, its not Thai Cuisine or even Taste of Thai, but its fine. The takeout portion is, well, eh... but in college, at that price and amount of food, it was a hell of a deal

Chinese... yeah, just don't. Collegetown Korean though is pretty good.

RichH
A couple of us went to CH after the Dartmouth game (Friday), and got a table in the back room. We had plenty of room and there wasn't a noise problem at all.

IIRC there were no empty tables, though, and we basically had to squat at a six-person table that already had a couple at the other end.

And then three hours later Hermo phoned me and called me a pussy for being in bed and not at Dunbar's.

RichH

Despite the fact that you didn't give any reasons for your dislike, I'll leave it to Drew & company to make their choice. I'm no regular at Ruloff's either, but I suggested it for our Clarkson friends because 1) it's not too deep into Collegetown and convenient to campus 2) it has a good kitchen during the day if they want snacks with their beer, and 3) it feels like a bar, as opposed to a restaurant that serves beer. The Palms and Dinos don't have that "pregame beer" type feeling for me. Collegetown Bagels still doesn't feel like a place to have a beer to me. I think Ruloff's was voted one of the top college bars (or something like that) by Playboy magazine.

I was going to give reasons, but I thought I'd go on for too long. Apart from the burgers I think the food isn't good, and it's expensive for what you get. Plus they used to gouge you at the bar if you ordered anything darker than Budweiser ($25 for a pitcher of Harp? Are you kidding me?). Besides, the last time I was in there was for the 2003 FF game with UHN. Bad times. . . In short - I just personally dislike the place. YMMV. I suppose I should've been more clear about that.

Chappy - folks interested in the local music scene should definitely go if there's a decent band (what's decent I leave up to you - the CD release group has some talented guys in it, but I don't know anything about the group as a whole). Folks interested in chatting with other hockey fans should probably avoid it if there's a band. It's nice to know it hasn't been mobbed on recent Fridays - maybe it's settled down a bit, so I retract my other crochety statement.

Whatever you do, drive safe, enjoy the games, and have a beer for me!

It's Southside Yanni's on the southside of Binghamton. Casual place with a bit of a sports bar feel (TVs and memorabilia). Some Greek food but plenty of other stuff at reasonable prices. Pretty decent selection of beers. Always a great atmosphere and congenial crowd when I've been there on Friday or Saturday nights.

Are you familiar with Binghamton? I have no idea if I'll get up there in time for a mid afternoon Sat stop, probably not, but after the game is more likely. Depends on a few things, all of which are up in the air.

The owners are family friends so behave if you go.

I always run into old HS buddies when I go so I'm hoping.

Tom Lento
I was going to give reasons, but I thought I'd go on for too long. Apart from the burgers I think the food isn't good, and it's expensive for what you get. Plus they used to gouge you at the bar if you ordered anything darker than Budweiser ($25 for a pitcher of Harp? Are you kidding me?).

*hat zings comically off of head*

Wow. Well, at least they have Harp available on tap for them to gouge you. Their website advertises $6 pitchers of Rolling Rock (cough), and I remember having pints of mid-range beers like Yuengling, Labatt's, and Saranac for $2-3. OK, I'll stop being a shill for Ruloff's now, since it's not high on my list of favorite bars anyway.

Oh, and other reasons to like Chapter House: you don't feel out of place if you're older than 22, tasty free popcorn, and bubble hockey.

RichH
Oh, and other reasons to like Chapter House: you don't feel out of place if you're older than 22, tasty free popcorn, and bubble hockey.

+ =

Tom Lento
Apart from the burgers I think the food isn't good, and it's expensive for what you get.

I completely agree. But I think everything RichH said still holds. Also, I agree with Age re: The Rose. The food is so-so and it is out of the way/"hidden"(back of a strip mall) which might make it difficult for a visitor to find.

Trotsky
I've never had less than an excellent pizza at The Nines.

I hadn't until last spring when I went once in March and once in May. The pizza was pretty good but it didn't meet my usual expectation for pizza from the Nines. The first time the pie was a little soggy and the second time I thought they skimped on the toppings. But overall it just didn't have that "damn this is really good pizza" feeling. So I haven't exactly been itching to rush back and wait 45 mins for what could be just an average pizza.

One place no one has mentioned is Wingz. Yeah, they don't have that much beer, and yeah it might be alittle pricey... but the wings are awesome. and it's close to lynah, and ussually not too busy before games

DeltaOne81

Tom Lento
Avoid all Chinese and Thai food in Collegetown. It's cheap, quick, and TERRIBLE.

I have no issue with the sit down portion of Little Thai House. I mean, its not Thai Cuisine or even Taste of Thai, but its fine. The takeout portion is, well, eh... but in college, at that price and amount of food, it was a hell of a deal

Chinese... yeah, just don't. Collegetown Korean though is pretty good.

Delta one is right about the Korean food. The Chinese food has already been given a thumbs down but i think it is bad enough that it deserves another person saying it sucks. That said Hai Hong did just open up a place by the Vietnamese place. Same people that run a place downtown. Haven't been there yet but it is no doubt an improvement over the existing Chinese places my guess is that it will be average.

One other option people haven't mentioned is Olivia's. It is a bit more upscale but they have half price burgers for those going to the Hockey game, just remember to bring a ticket as proof. I found Olivia's tasty and a good deal. For you beer snobs i think you will do OK there. As much as it pains me to say so I suppose this would apply even to our tech friends from the northwoods as well.

Another place worth mentioning is Joes down on rt. 13. Good Italian food could take longer and is more upscale for Ithaca.

Good luck, happy eating, and LGR!!

-WillR

WillR
I found Olivia's tasty and a good deal. For you beer snobs i think you will do OK there.

Or snobs in general. It's owned by the same people that own Stella's. Was terribly unimpressed with Olivia's. Don't reckon I'll be going back there any time soon.

DeltaOne81

Tom Lento
Avoid all Chinese and Thai food in Collegetown. It's cheap, quick, and TERRIBLE.

I have no issue with the sit down portion of Little Thai House. I mean, its not Thai Cuisine or even Taste of Thai, but its fine. The takeout portion is, well, eh... but in college, at that price and amount of food, it was a hell of a deal

I still think it's a hell of a deal, and it's one of the few places in the world I'm willing to eat tofu. Their pad thai is simplistic and overly vinegary, but that's what I like about it, and I can slop on as much crushed peanut as I like. It costs me much less to stuff myself thoroughly there than to barely eat lunch in New York.

Beeeej

Is anyone going to mention Hot Truck

jtwcornell91
Is anyone going to mention Hot Truck

How careless of me! Thanks JTW for the reminder. After a couple of beers at the Chapter House, walk up Stewart Ave. to the Hot Truck. Order a Sep-Pep, Sui, PMP or WGC and prepare to be satisfied.

I was just up at Lynah for the figure skating exhibition tonight, and got to see Clarkson arriving to settle themselves in the locker rooms. For such a long drive, they looked REALLY well rested.

I'm on crutches right now thanks to an unfortunate sprained ankle last week, and it was certainly tempting to shout "Clarkson sucks" and see how many I could take out with my crutches before getting taken down myself. However, I wasn't too confident in my ability to attack without falling over, and only getting to one or two wouldn't really be worth getting JAed/jailed/beaten by the remaining Clarkson players. Additionally, I didn't think that type of behavior would really be appropriate in the context of the figure skating exhibition. Oh well

LET'S GO RED!

ninian '72

Bio '04
Definitely lots of complaining on that board, but I have to admit that this possible shirt slogan was funny, especially with all the talk about the lack of scoring:

Cornell Hockey. Offense is Offensive.

Even Better: "Only the Pope scores More."

Faithful, be ready...

Apparently, Hooked on Phonics U. doesn't teach semantics...

Bio '04

nyc94
The closer it gets to game time the more cars you'll encounter on 79. I just made it for the anthems at the Nov. 2004 Harvard game.

That sounds like my experience when I drove up with Molly. We were trying to get to that game in time for warmups but were relieved to get there by the anthems (I think). Lesson learned- leave before noon if coming from DC because driving through Harrisburg is a real pain.

I-81 in PA; Harrisburg in particular; always under construction, plus one of the most boring drives on the east coast.

From DC, you can avoid quite a bit of it if you take I-270 to Rt 15 through Gettysburg, and then over to I-81 via I think rt 581.

redGrinch
I-81 in PA; Harrisburg in particular; always under construction, plus one of the most boring drives on the east coast.

From DC, you can avoid quite a bit of it if you take I-270 to Rt 15 through Gettysburg, and then over to I-81 via I think rt 581.

NOOOOO!!!! Can I request a stop to the driving directions discussion without being called a nazi?

Are we talking street meat? Right up my alley guys thanks!

redGrinch

Bio '04

nyc94
The closer it gets to game time the more cars you'll encounter on 79. I just made it for the anthems at the Nov. 2004 Harvard game.

That sounds like my experience when I drove up with Molly. We were trying to get to that game in time for warmups but were relieved to get there by the anthems (I think). Lesson learned- leave before noon if coming from DC because driving through Harrisburg is a real pain.

I-81 in PA; Harrisburg in particular; always under construction, plus one of the most boring drives on the east coast.

From DC, you can avoid quite a bit of it if you take I-270 to Rt 15 through Gettysburg, and then over to I-81 via I think rt 581.

Ah, I miss that old drive. I've never found Harrisburg that bad, maybe because I've done it so many times. It's just that PA roads suck so much in general.

Drew
Are we talking street meat? Right up my alley guys thanks!

[www.everything2.com]

AHhhhhhhhhhhhh.......You are a good man! I have to get there..I owe you at least one beer Delta!

Drew
AHhhhhhhhhhhhh.......You are a good man! I have to get there..I owe you at least one beer Delta!

Since both our team's can't be in Albany, would be there if Clarkson isn't? (Cause I'll admit this year that I probably won't be in Cornell isn't)

Better yet, buy me a hot truck sandwich, keep it preserved. I'll pay ya for it and still consider it a massive favor

RichH

redGrinch
I-81 in PA; Harrisburg in particular; always under construction, plus one of the most boring drives on the east coast.

From DC, you can avoid quite a bit of it if you take I-270 to Rt 15 through Gettysburg, and then over to I-81 via I think rt 581.

NOOOOO!!!! Can I request a stop to the driving directions discussion without being called a nazi?

Maybe we need a Driving Directions forum.

redGrinch
I-81 in PA; Harrisburg in particular; always under construction, plus one of the most boring drives on the east coast.

From DC, you can avoid quite a bit of it if you take I-270 to Rt 15 through Gettysburg, and then over to I-81 via I think rt 581.

Thanks for the advice, but unfortunately, I can't use those directions now since 1) I don't live in DC this year 2) My lab advisor now is a lot more strict about taking time off.

I'm from Buffalo... it shouldn't mean much but those wings are not that good. Furthermore, I'm only commenting on the actual "wings" because breaded/fried chicken breast should really be called chicken fingers, not "boneless wings." Ok, I'm done with the rant now.

The Clarkson alum pre-game gathering is at Benchwarmers at the Commons.

Anyone have an opinion on the place ?

Thanks.

RichS
The Clarkson alum pre-game gathering is at Benchwarmers at the Commons.

Anyone have an opinion on the place ?

Thanks.

It recently changed locations, from one side of The Commons to the other. I think it is in a larger space now. I only ate there once, before the move. The food was OK. Nothing to write home about, but certainly adequate.

I mention the move only because it may indicate that the business is doing well, so it is possible others have a higher opinion of the place than I do.
Andy W.

Love it, but beware the generic cola.

I was there over the summmer. They have something called the "fat chick," which is kind of a macho, more-food-than-you-can-possibly-eat platter. The rest of the food was pretty decent.

What's our injury status for tonight?

Ryan O'Byrne, Sasha Pokulok, and Doug Krantz are dressed tonight.

a lot better than Clarkson's inj status.

Genovy and Clitsome are out, the former probably for good, which is bad.

Rich S
a lot better than Clarkson's inj status.

Genovy and Clitsome are out, the former probably for good, which is bad.

Clarkson needs Clitsome

yep.

Rich, why aren't you at the damn game? Or are you posting from Section O?

I'll be there (O) tom'w I hope...in Joisey now.

See above posting, we had an emergency here tonite.

And wassup with you?

Rich S
And wassup with you?

I'm still in New Orleans. I guess I could have theoretically come back for this series (I was in Ithaca 3 weeks ago for Dartmouth/Hahvahd), in a universe where I didn't have to do any work for next weekend's conference.