Cornell 0 RPI 2

Col 2 UC 0

This is getting bad.

Well, they're getting lots of "hack at it in the crease" chances. Haven't quit.

SLU 2 Hvd 1

Trotsky

colo83
At a serious risk of denigration, this is the same team as last year except for Downs and Cook. perhaps they were more important than we knew.

Don't forget Hynes.

Or Iggy, Vart and Knopfli...They're especially important when we're without 3 of our starting defensemen.

3-0. Yay.

No Goal! Still 2-0!

Clk 2 Drt 2. No defense, there, either.

Whew.

Why was it waved?

Tyler Aims (sp)/rpi goal waived off!!!
Phew. Looks like we are indeed in for a long weekend.

Cornell bdcst. still doesn't know why it was waved off

where's the offense? i thought we only had d-men out

Jordan 04
3-0. Yay.

I have to admit, this made me laugh. I don't know why, it was just the way you said it.

You know things are going bad when the only good news is a waived-off goal while down 2-0.

Rita
Tyler Aims (sp)/rpi goal waived off!!!
Phew. Looks like we are indeed in for a long weekend.

Tyler Eaves, cousin of the BC Eaveses.

ursaminor

Rita
Tyler Aims (sp)/rpi goal waived off!!!
Phew. Looks like we are indeed in for a long weekend.

Tyler Eaves, cousin of the BC Eaveses.

Freddy Meyer is a hack.

I totally agree that Iggulden graduat made a diff/

7:57 left to go in the second period. Still no word on why the goal was waived off.

Goal was the result of a hand pass

Hvd 2 SLU 2. Go Crimson (pauses to barf).

Cornell to go on PP.

Waved off because of a hand pass. Not quite sure how the hand pass factored into the play, but it did.

RPI announcers get some credit for admitting that the hand pass wave-off was legitimate.

pp upcoming. Come on guys... LGR!!!!

Omie
where's the offense? i thought we only had d-men out

Holy crap.

(---.tvlres.jcu.edu.au)

Queensland, Australia. Could this be a new record for the farthest away listener? (Pardon me if someone's already mentioned this.)

We need this.

we need a miracle

hahaha Im abroad... its 11:15am here saturday

Several shots on goal during this PP, by both Moulson and Bitz. RPI clears with 30 seconds to go in PP.

Great puck control on the PP, but very little on net.

ursaminor

Rita
Tyler Aims (sp)/rpi goal waived off!!!
Phew. Looks like we are indeed in for a long weekend.

Tyler Eaves, cousin of the BC Eaveses.

Sorry. Our announcer guy did say he was part of the famous hockey family. However, my audio quality varies at work and it didn't sound like Eaves to me.

Qpc 4 Yal 0. Break up the Deer Ticks.

4:11 left in the 2nd

End of 2.

it sucks if we end up getting only one point from the capital district for the regular season

Omie
it sucks if we end up getting only one point from the capital district for the regular season

Let's not give up quite yet. We could still get 5.

Plenty of time.

Does any one have the credit to get to Grand Forks. Could be an adventure however.

Even from here in central Iowa, it's about a nine hour drive. Minneapolis was much closer last year!

Don't want or afford a single prop eh; not that I can1

colo83
Does any one have the credit to get to Grand Forks. Could be an adventure however.

does us airways fly there? I still have free flight vouchers to use from getting bumped to/from ithaca

I did a little searching on Expedia.com and it looks like Northwest is the only airline that flies into Grand Forks. It is also a Friday-Saturday regional, so depending on the flight schedule, you may need to take Thursday as a travel day too. If they have to be sent west I'm pulling for Green Bay and a 6 hr drive from IN.

Damn NC$$. You would hope they would have the common sense to put the regional that is most difficult to get to as a Sat-Sun regional. It might help the "cents" part of things too.

According to the Cornell radio broadcaster, we have won 32 of 47 faceoffs tonight. Scott 4 of 5, Pegs 9 of 11 (or 13...not sure), etc.

RPI penalty.

Freshman with energy!!! the kids draw a pp.

colo83
Does any one have the credit to get to Grand Forks. Could be an adventure however.

If we don't start winning games, we'll be spending that weekend in Ithaca.

United flies to Fargo. That's an option if you have US Air miles.

The other option I've been considering is flying into Winnipeg.

12:43 left. Good chances for the first line, but they can't find the back of the net.

Dartmouth up 3-2 over Clarkson.

Colgate up 2-0 over Union.

Both games in the third period, obviously.

clarkson needs to make a comeback...

we need to make a comeback

McKee a save on a 2-1.

then a few min later some pressure by abbott and McC.

~ 10 min left. face off RPI end.

~8:00 Minutes to go...

So why wasn't that a goal?

Bitz puts one in...goal light on for about three seconds, but ref never indicated goal. No goal, of course.

Sounds like Bitz took a shot, goalie made save, Bitz got a rebound that he knocked home, but the play had been whistled dead before that.

6:08 left in the third

So the ref blew the call? Not sure how else there could be a rebound unless Lange didn't have it...

Odd that there wasn't much of an objection from Cornell, unless I'm missing something.

Penalty against Cornell, with 4:35 left in third. Hooking on Seminoff.

perfect time for a shorty

Well, crap.

That's a spot you can't take a penalty in, and have to really let McKee do his best. Down two, we can't afford the time lost by a penalty.

send McC

We have so many strong flurries, but our inability to finish is painful to listen to.

Now a penalty on Seminoff ... well, at least Lacrosse gets underway tomorrow

Dafatone
So the ref blew the call? Not sure how else there could be a rebound unless Lange didn't have it...

Odd that there wasn't much of an objection from Cornell, unless I'm missing something.

I'm just inferring from the original radio call. There was talk of a shot by Bitz, and then him gathering up his own rebound and putting it in. There wasn't a whole lot of detail. Sorry.

Cam with a short-handed attempt, not successful.

We're back to full strength.

2:52 left.

high sticking against RPI...

McKee to the bench, and a penalty on RPI. Now or never.

McKee to stay on bench. 6 on 4, empty net.

I'd pull McKee here.

Cornell timeout.

Gary Glitter.

We don't have anything to lose by this. Good call.

LGR!!

Dafatone
I'd pull McKee here.

Considering how our offense has looked...definitely

McKee in net, for now.

McKee off now. Carefoot on.

McKee still in net? even though we have control of the puck. Now he's pulled out.

RPI hits our post. 32 seconds remaining in pp.

We get called for too many men? Bah.

That's a lame call to make for anything short of us simply trying to sneak a seventh man on.

Too many men on the ice against Cornell. We had seven skaters out there. Nice.

and we probably still couldn't score

And this one ends, 2-0.

So, we do anything wrong? This sounded like Lange was just a wall.

Dafatone
So, we do anything wrong? This sounded like Lange was just a wall.

Somehow I'm beginning to get skeptical that every single goalie we face is virtually a wall against us. Out offense is just pathetic on some nights.

Lets Go Red!!!!

Jocie
Lets Go Red!!!!

to Schenectady?

DeltaOne81

Dafatone
So, we do anything wrong? This sounded like Lange was just a wall.

Somehow I'm beginning to get skeptical that every single goalie we face is virtually a wall against us. Out offense is just pathetic on some nights.

I don't think I've ever heard an announcer say the word "wide" as much as Jason did tonight (as in we shot it wide).

DeltaOne81

Dafatone
So, we do anything wrong? This sounded like Lange was just a wall.

Somehow I'm beginning to get skeptical that every single goalie we face is virtually a wall against us. Out offense is just pathetic on some nights.

Right. RPI'd given up 2.7 goals per game and we manage one in two games.

Dafatone
So, we do anything wrong? This sounded like Lange was just a wall.

I was wondering about this too. Hot goalie or lack of offense? We had chances, but we do not seem to have a "sniper", a true "GO_TO" guy. McC was filling that role earlier this season.

So the combination of having a relatively inexperienced D-core compared to recent years, and an offense that isn't potent, means are coming up short in a lot of games, like this one and the at Princeton game. I think at this point, I'm leaning towards a "not very explosive" offense.

edit: Maybe "pathetic" like Al suggested would be a better description rather than "not explosive".

come on cornell lets win this

Oh-no! We suckagain!

Think positive guys. If we lose tomorrow, then we might not get a first-round bye in the ECAC playoff. So we might get to see more of Cornell awesome hockey next weekend! Here in Lynah!! Yay

Ok fine. Seriously, I am counting on our team to do some damage tomorrow against Union. We should expect to see significant improvement in every aspect of the team. I don't know why, but that's just my gut feeling.

Oat
Think positive guys. If we lose tomorrow, then we might not get a first-round bye in the ECAC playoff.

I was actually thinking about this. I think I saw some posts earlier saying we were guaranteed a buy. However, both Sucks and SLU(t) are 2 points behind us. Since they don't play each other tomorrow, a win for both of them and a loss for us would have all three of us at 27pts a piece. How is it decided then who doesn't get the buy? Does it go by GF in the ECAC RS?

We have the first round bye clinched.

Umm... don't we?

Anyone know if we win a tiebreaker against harvard?

Pace

Oat
Think positive guys. If we lose tomorrow, then we might not get a first-round bye in the ECAC playoff.

I was actually thinking about this. I think I saw some posts earlier saying we were guaranteed a buy. However, both Sucks and SLU(t) are 2 points behind us. Since they don't play each other tomorrow, a win for both of them and a loss for us would have all three of us at 27pts a piece. How is it decided then who doesn't get the buy? Does it go by GF in the ECAC RS?

First tie breaker is head to head in the group.

We're 1-0-1 against SLU and 1-1 against Harvard. Making us 2-1-1.

Harvard is 1-1 versus us and 2-0 versus SLU. Making them 3-1.

SLU is 0-1-1 versus us and 0-2 versus Harvard. Making them 0-3-1.

Harvard would get 3rd, we'd get 4th, SLU 5th. We'd get the last bye..


Btw, its "bye", not "buy".

DeltaOne81

Pace

Oat
Think positive guys. If we lose tomorrow, then we might not get a first-round bye in the ECAC playoff.

I was actually thinking about this. I think I saw some posts earlier saying we were guaranteed a buy. However, both Sucks and SLU(t) are 2 points behind us. Since they don't play each other tomorrow, a win for both of them and a loss for us would have all three of us at 27pts a piece. How is it decided then who doesn't get the buy? Does it go by GF in the ECAC RS?

First tie breaker is head to head in the group.

We're 1-0-1 against SLU and 1-1 against Harvard. Making us 2-1-1.

Harvard is 1-1 versus us and 2-0 versus SLU. Making them 3-1.

SLU is 0-1-1 versus us and 0-2 versus Harvard. Making them 0-3-1.

Harvard would get 3rd, we'd get 4th, SLU 5th. We'd get the last bye..


Btw, its "bye", not "buy".

Thanks for clearing that up, Delta.

Not being a native English speaker, what is the origin of it being "bye" and not "buy"?

Pace

Thanks for clearing that up, Delta.

Not being a native English speaker, what is the origin of it being "bye" and not "buy"?[/quote]

Using a little bit of guess work and a little bit of Merriam Webster.com - it says that "bye" in the sports meaning is an alternation of "by".

Now here's my guessing part: that would make sense as far as you get to "go by" (skip/pass) the first round (or two, etc). Calling it a "by" probably didn't seem intelligent enough, so it changed to "bye". And its always easier to add an 'e' on the end in English than to stick a 'u in the middle

DeltaOne81
First tie breaker is head to head in the group.

We're 1-0-1 against SLU and 1-1 against Harvard. Making us 2-1-1.

Harvard is 1-1 versus us and 2-0 versus SLU. Making them 3-1.

SLU is 0-1-1 versus us and 0-2 versus Harvard. Making them 0-3-1.

Harvard would get 3rd, we'd get 4th, SLU 5th. We'd get the last bye.

Your seedings are correct, but the procedure in a three-way tie is a bit different. As noted above, Harvard gets the third seed based on head-to-head record among the three teams. The process then starts over from the beginning to break the (now) fourth-place tie between Cornell and St. Lawrence. Cornell wins this one based on head-to-head. The starting-over step doesn't make a difference here, but it's not hard to come up with a scenario in which it would change the order of the seedings.

Dafatone
Anyone know if we win a tiebreaker against harvard?

If the tie is with just Harvard (for third place), Cornell wins on the second tiebreaker, record against top 4 -- which would mean record against Dartmouth and Colgate, the top two teams in this case. Cornell would be 3-1, Harvard 2-2. If St. Lawrence makes it a three-way tie, then Cornell gets seeded behind Harvard. (see above)

fenwick
Your seedings are correct, but the procedure in a three-way tie is a bit different. As noted above, Harvard gets the third seed based on head-to-head record among the three teams. The process then starts over from the beginning to break the (now) fourth-place tie between Cornell and St. Lawrence. Cornell wins this one based on head-to-head. The starting-over step doesn't make a difference here, but it's not hard to come up with a scenario in which it would change the order of the seedings.

I thought you only started over if there was still a tie while knocking one off.

I.e. if Harvard won but Cornell and SLU tied in the H2H category, Harvard would get third, and instead of going on to record against top 4, you would start over with Cornell/SLU H2H.

But if the 3 way tiebreaker separates a 1/2/3 on its own then no reason to start over.

But I could be wrong

Post moved to the postgame thread.

DeltaOne81
I thought you only started over if there was still a tie while knocking one off.

I.e. if Harvard won but Cornell and SLU tied in the H2H category, Harvard would get third, and instead of going on to record against top 4, you would start over with Cornell/SLU H2H.

But if the 3 way tiebreaker separates a 1/2/3 on its own then no reason to start over.

But I could be wrong

Nope, they always start over with the remaining teams. The idea is not to give a team a higher seeding in a three-way tie than they would have gotten if the tie were between only two teams. Of course, it doesn't work in this case -- Cornell would beat Harvard in a two-way tie but gets seeded behind the Crimson in a three-way.

Al DeFlorio

DeltaOne81

Dafatone
So, we do anything wrong? This sounded like Lange was just a wall.

Somehow I'm beginning to get skeptical that every single goalie we face is virtually a wall against us. Out offense is just pathetic on some nights.

Right. RPI'd given up 2.7 goals per game and we manage one in two games.

a) Lange was good
b) It seemed as if we had two kinds of shots, those just wide (as mentioned on radio) and those right dead center on goal, where Lange was positioned.

McKee had one awesome save 8 minutes into the third. The puck was airborne, headed straight up after a blocked shot, Mckee turned around thinking it was behind, lost sight, it came down about 20 feet in front of the net in traffic, there must have been a pattern he saw even if not the shot coming, and McKee reflexively stuck out his left skate and pad and that's where the shot hit. Maybe lucky, maybe good. Come playoff time, he's going to be an asset.