HARVARD SUCKS

curfc80
Lance Nethery, 1979. He knew.

Years later I ran into Coach Cleary and asked him if he remembered this deviation from the fish-throwing tradition.

He told me he asked the ref: How big would that thing have to be before you'd call a game misconduct!"

jtn27

Aaron M. Griffin
Plus, printing off fish pictures is easier than getting a sizable volume of The Cornell Daily Sun to AC.

Why does it have to be The Cornell Daily Sun? Surely The Atlantic City Trashy Celebrity Sex Scandal and Sensationalized Crime Daily Tabloid (or whatever it is they call the local paper) would work just as well?

Half sarcasm. However, it is more authentic using The Sun because it is what one does at Lynah. I guess I was being a purist about the traditions of the Lynah Faithful.

Jim Hyla

Aaron M. Griffin

jtn27

Aaron M. Griffin

jtn27

jtwcornell91

Aaron M. Griffin

Cornell Sucks
Harvard is going to kick the shit out of Cornell.

Now, now, why are we all so dismissive of this erudite commenter? I'm sure that he has something that he can offer. Perhaps he would be kind enough to pick some fish up from the hahbah for all the Faithful. We all know that we will need them.

Kidding aside, DO NOT THROW FISH IN ATLANTIC CITY or any place other than Lynah.

Do what I do for non-hockey Harvard games: bring a sign with a picture of a fish.

How many people join you in that? It's a good idea. It keeps the tradition alive at neutral sites and does not punish Cornell's team.

So far.... 2. And we've only done it 2 or 3 times.

Okay. bnr24 and I will join in with it. I will print off several copies of it to pass around for the Harvard game. I have a large printing quota at my law school and I have not begun to use any of it, so I can think of no better use. If it is as easy as people say to move around in Boardwalk Hall, it should be easy to pass them out to have a decent density of fish pictures before the game. Plus, printing off fish pictures is easier than getting a sizable volume of The Cornell Daily Sun to AC.

I will be bringing newspapers. I like the fish idea, could it be for when they come on the ice, just like when they are thrown? If that happens, it would be great in Boston as well, and I think it would make a impact there. I'm not sure there will be enough Harvard fans in AC to annoy them. However, I still like newspaper for the intros. We can have both, and could coordinate distribution.

I agree with the timing. I am going to print off a large amount of pictures of fish to antagonize Sucks and their fan. I will distribute fish pictures if I can get a newspaper so that we can all do this as if it were Lynah. I am not sure the layout or areas of Boardwalk Hall for easy distribution among Cornell fans. Any ideas for that?

Aaron M. Griffin

jtn27

Aaron M. Griffin
Plus, printing off fish pictures is easier than getting a sizable volume of The Cornell Daily Sun to AC.

Why does it have to be The Cornell Daily Sun? Surely The Atlantic City Trashy Celebrity Sex Scandal and Sensationalized Crime Daily Tabloid (or whatever it is they call the local paper) would work just as well?

Half sarcasm. However, it is more authentic using The Sun because it is what one does at Lynah. I guess I was being a purist about the traditions of the Lynah Faithful.

I hever used the Sun at Lynah. I always grabbed a stack of the various free papers that are left in buildings on campus. Besides, if you want to think deeply about the intent of the cheer* the more boring and stupid the reading material the better.

* Which is silly, but we're all spending inordinate amount of time on a web forum about college hockey. So I feel justified.

KeithK
I hever used the Sun at Lynah. I always grabbed a stack of the various free papers that are left in buildings on campus. Besides, if you want to think deeply about the intent of the cheer* the more boring and stupid the reading material the better.

* Which is silly, but we're all spending inordinate amount of time on a web forum about college hockey. So I feel justified.

Isn't The Sun now one of those various free papers that are left in buildings on campus? I think I remember hearing that except for deliveries, The Sun is now free.

RichH

KeithK
I hever used the Sun at Lynah. I always grabbed a stack of the various free papers that are left in buildings on campus. Besides, if you want to think deeply about the intent of the cheer* the more boring and stupid the reading material the better.

* Which is silly, but we're all spending inordinate amount of time on a web forum about college hockey. So I feel justified.

Isn't The Sun now one of those various free papers that are left in buildings on campus? I think I remember hearing that except for deliveries, The Sun is now free.

It's been free at least since Fall 2005 when I arrived on campus.

munchkin

RichH

KeithK
I hever used the Sun at Lynah. I always grabbed a stack of the various free papers that are left in buildings on campus. Besides, if you want to think deeply about the intent of the cheer* the more boring and stupid the reading material the better.

* Which is silly, but we're all spending inordinate amount of time on a web forum about college hockey. So I feel justified.

Isn't The Sun now one of those various free papers that are left in buildings on campus? I think I remember hearing that except for deliveries, The Sun is now free.

It's been free at least since Fall 2005 when I arrived on campus.

It was free the entire time that I was on campus and when I made the trip up for this year's Sucks game at Lynah, it was free to grab before the game.

Aaron M. Griffin

munchkin

RichH

KeithK
I hever used the Sun at Lynah. I always grabbed a stack of the various free papers that are left in buildings on campus. Besides, if you want to think deeply about the intent of the cheer* the more boring and stupid the reading material the better.

* Which is silly, but we're all spending inordinate amount of time on a web forum about college hockey. So I feel justified.

Isn't The Sun now one of those various free papers that are left in buildings on campus? I think I remember hearing that except for deliveries, The Sun is now free.

It's been free at least since Fall 2005 when I arrived on campus.

It was free the entire time that I was on campus and when I made the trip up for this year's Sucks game at Lynah, it was free to grab before the game.

Well get off my damn lawn!

So bring extra newspapers. I never know if I'll have enough. Should have enough Snickers however.

It is the Ides of March and Harvard still sucks.

(Yeah, totally bored at work)

Rita
It is the Ides of March and Harvard still sucks.

And down 10 at the half, 33-23.

edit: Harvard making a late run, down 5 with a minute and a half to go.

...And Harvard still sucks.

79-70 Vanderbilt. Final.

Is it true beating Harvard in an NCAA game gets Vandy an automatic invite to Hockey East?

French Rage
Is it true beating Harvard in an NCAA game gets Vandy an automatic invite to Hockey East?

No. You actually have to accomplish something noteworthy to get an invite to Hockey East.

jtn27

French Rage
Is it true beating Harvard in an NCAA game gets Vandy an automatic invite to Hockey East?

No. You actually have to accomplish something noteworthy to get an invite to Hockey East.

Well, they've been bad at football since the nineties, just like Notre Dame...

jtn27

French Rage
Is it true beating Harvard in an NCAA game gets Vandy an automatic invite to Hockey East?

No. You actually have to accomplish something noteworthy 20 years ago to get an invite to Hockey East.

FYP

jtn27

French Rage
Is it true beating Harvard in an NCAA game gets Vandy an automatic invite to Hockey East?

No. You actually have to accomplish something noteworthy to get an invite to Hockey East.

Then how did Vermont get one?

Josh '99

jtn27

French Rage
Is it true beating Harvard in an NCAA game gets Vandy an automatic invite to Hockey East?

No. You actually have to accomplish something noteworthy to get an invite to Hockey East.

Then how did Vermont get one?

This isn't noteworthy?

Chris '03

Josh '99

jtn27

French Rage
Is it true beating Harvard in an NCAA game gets Vandy an automatic invite to Hockey East?

No. You actually have to accomplish something noteworthy to get an invite to Hockey East.

Then how did Vermont get one?

This isn't noteworthy?

I stand corrected. We certainly made note of it during subsequent Cornell-Vermont games.

I thought it would be good if this thread had 18,000 views before the game starts tonight.

Let's Go Red!

Now that Harvard's basketball team is one and done, the Crimson Faithful can fill up Boardwalk Hall tonight to cheer on their hockey team.

dbilmes
Now that Harvard's basketball team is one and done, the Crimson Faithful can fill up Boardwalk Hall tonight to cheer on their hockey team.

Is there really anything "ful" about them? Perhaps the Crimson Faithfool or Faithfail would be more appropriate.

Harvard really kicked the shit out of a foolish looking Cornell team.

So I'm just waiting for Harvard to either lose to Union tomorrow, or if they make it past tomorrow, I await the one and done game, to keep up with tradition.

Killer

dbilmes
Now that Harvard's basketball team is one and done, the Crimson Faithful can fill up Boardwalk Hall tonight to cheer on their hockey team.

Is there really anything "ful" about them? Perhaps the Crimson Faithfool or Faithfail would be more appropriate.

If not ful then full of.

Last night was not a night to yell out "Harvard sucks." Kettle, pot, black.

Cornell Sucks
Harvard really kicked the shit out of a foolish looking Cornell team.

I'd encourage you to go celebrate with other Harvard fans instead of coming here and trolling, but that would require there to be such a thing as "other Harvard fans".

Cornell Sucks
Harvard really kicked the shit out of a foolish looking Cornell team.

Why do I think this is actually some Cornell face-timer trying to stir things up?

I suppose it is not completely outside the realm of possibility that the Harvard fan could have found someone who understood how to surf the internet and gotten that person to search for a Cornell site and troll on it.

Cornell Sucks
Harvard really kicked the shit out of a foolish looking Cornell team.

Perhaps so, Tom. But in a year or two, we'll win another ECAC championship, and you'll still be an old, flaccid, classless asshole. And when it happens, there still won't be a Harvard hockey forum for us to troll on, because nobody gives a shit about Harvard hockey.

Give My Regards

Cornell Sucks
Harvard really kicked the shit out of a foolish looking Cornell team.

Why do I think this is actually some Cornell face-timer trying to stir things up?

I suppose it is not completely outside the realm of possibility that the Harvard fan could have found someone who understood how to surf the internet and gotten that person to search for a Cornell site and troll on it.

I put my money on some toad that didn't get into Cornell and has spent the last ten years surfing the web - thinking he's a hacker.

marty

Give My Regards

Cornell Sucks
Harvard really kicked the shit out of a foolish looking Cornell team.

Why do I think this is actually some Cornell face-timer trying to stir things up?

I suppose it is not completely outside the realm of possibility that the Harvard fan could have found someone who understood how to surf the internet and gotten that person to search for a Cornell site and troll on it.

I put my money on some toad that didn't get into Cornell and has spent the last ten years surfing the web - thinking he's a hacker.

I think the one thing we can be sure of is that this is not a Sucks fan, as that is a null set.

Give My Regards

Cornell Sucks
Harvard really kicked the shit out of a foolish looking Cornell team.

Why do I think this is actually some Cornell face-timer trying to stir things up? I suppose it is not completely outside the realm of possibility that the Harvard fan could have found someone who understood how to surf the internet and gotten that person to search for a Cornell site and troll on it.

Harvard people wrote their own website a couple years ago. Most of them use that. There was a movie about it last year. Of the Harvard website creators, ex-Harvard president Lawrence Summers said, "... one of the things you learn as a college president is that if an undergraduate is wearing a tie and jacket on Thursday afternoon at 3 o clock, there are two possibilities. One is that they are looking for a job and have an interview; the other is that they are an asshole. This was the latter case."

billhoward

Give My Regards

Cornell Sucks
Harvard really kicked the shit out of a foolish looking Cornell team.

Why do I think this is actually some Cornell face-timer trying to stir things up? I suppose it is not completely outside the realm of possibility that the Harvard fan could have found someone who understood how to surf the internet and gotten that person to search for a Cornell site and troll on it.

Harvard people wrote their own website a couple years ago. Most of them use that. There was a movie about it last year. Of the Harvard website creators, ex-Harvard president Lawrence Summers said, "... one of the things you learn as a college president is that if an undergraduate is wearing a tie and jacket on Thursday afternoon at 3 o clock, there are two possibilities. One is that they are looking for a job and have an interview; the other is that they are an asshole. This was the latter case."

When's the eLynah movie coming out?

My bad for responding. What's the word, again, for little people who sleep under bridges? I know they get hungry.

Today, let's not forget who the first team to ever lose at Fenway Park was.

[www.thecrimson.com]

RichH
Today, let's not forget who the first team to ever lose at Fenway Park was.

[www.thecrimson.com]

100 years later and Harvard still sucks.

A "distinguished" Harvard alumnus has his 50th reunion coming up...

Ted Kaczynski's alumni update for his 50 year Harvard reunion. Morbidly amusing. twitter.com/ataussig/statu…

— Alex Taussig (@ataussig) May 22, 2012

Ronald '09
A "distinguished" Harvard alumnus has his 50th reunion coming up...

[mobile.twitter.com]

+1

Ronald '09
A "distinguished" Harvard alumnus has his 50th reunion coming up...

Ted Kaczynski's alumni update for his 50 year Harvard reunion. Morbidly amusing. twitter.com/ataussig/statu…

— Alex Taussig (@ataussig) May 22, 2012

I LOLed at "Awards". It's like they're taking pride that their most famous nutjob is more accomplished than other schools' nutjobs.

Josh '99
I LOLed at "Awards". It's like they're taking pride that their most famous nutjob is more accomplished than other schools' nutjobs.

Nutjob inflation. That's only worth 4 life sentences at any other school.

Ronald '09
A "distinguished" Harvard alumnus has his 50th reunion coming up...

A lot of people are saying that the publication was in poor taste. I disagree; only the publication of the Awards section was. As a comedian I commend Kaczynski for the high-quality trolling but the editors of the update shouldn't have allowed him to sneak in a joke about murdering people.

The Cornell-Sucks rivalry is mentioned on Midtown Badgers's college sports bucket list.

Other than the description of the rivalry, it is interesting how the author recounts college hockey history entirely inaccurately.

Andrew Coppens
Wisconsin fans should be well versed by just how good Cornell can be as they stopped the Badgers hopes of winning yet another national title in 2010 in the NCAA Frozen Four.

I am not sure how he thinks that Cornell made it to the Frozen Four with losing to UNH in the 2010 NCAA East Regional Semifinal. Wisconsin made it to the national title game that year and lost 8-0 to BC. The positive of this error is the implication that Wisconsin has respect for the hockey tradition at Cornell, unlike some programs in the WCHA.

They know not to screw with us in an alternate universe.

French Rage
They know not to screw with us in an alternate universe.

My senior year in that universe would not have been as disappointing either. Unrealized potential.

Aaron M. Griffin

Other than the description of the rivalry...

The first in the last 35+ years not to mention chicken or fish.

Aaron M. Griffin
The Cornell-Sucks rivalry is mentioned on Midtown Badgers's college sports bucket list.

Other than the description of the rivalry, it is interesting how the author recounts college hockey history entirely inaccurately.

Andrew Coppens
Wisconsin fans should be well versed by just how good Cornell can be as they stopped the Badgers hopes of winning yet another national title in 2010 in the NCAA Frozen Four.

I am not sure how he thinks that Cornell made it to the Frozen Four with losing to UNH in the 2010 NCAA East Regional Semifinal. Wisconsin made it to the national title game that year and lost 8-0 to BC. The positive of this error is the implication that Wisconsin has respect for the hockey tradition at Cornell, unlike some programs in the WCHA.

We beat Wisconsin in the NCAA basketball tournament that year, and somehow the author transformed that memory.

Single game @ Harvard tickets go on sale Sept. 5.

Investigating "unprecedented" academic dishonesty in Cambridge: [www.thecrimson.com]

I don't understand. Why do you have to cheat when you're already guranteed an "A"?

KeithK
Investigating "unprecedented" academic dishonesty in Cambridge: [www.thecrimson.com]

I don't understand. Why do you have to cheat when you're already guranteed an "A"?

Given the class, cheating is the final exam.

Trotsky

KeithK
Investigating "unprecedented" academic dishonesty in Cambridge: [www.thecrimson.com]

I don't understand. Why do you have to cheat when you're already guranteed an "A"?

Given the class, cheating is the final exam.

+1

NY Times
[www.nytimes.com]
Students said they were tripped up by a course whose tests were confusing, whose grading was inconsistent, and for which the professor and teaching assistants gave contradictory signals about what was expected. They face the possibility of a one-year suspension from Harvard or revocation of their diplomas if they have already graduated, and some said that they will sue the university if any serious punishment is meted out.

Harvard education that teaches practical lessons for life. You can change your destiny if you have counsel.

If Prof. Matthew Platt is not tenured, what is his half-life in Cambridge going to be?

Jim Hyla
Single game @ Harvard tickets go on sale Sept. 5.

Tickets are up, get to work.

As an aside: Sec 14 is probably for Ithaca. Our bench is 16-17, and I just got 18 row H.

Section 14 may be the Harvard band.

Got 2 seats in 18, F

22G here; on the road with a smartphone; hard to choose seats at 3G speeds. In the house, at least.

Al DeFlorio
22G here; on the road with a smartphone; hard to choose seats at 3G speeds. In the house, at least.

When I go to their website, I see exactly one seat left, all the way in the back of Section 9, and searching for any pair of seats together at all comes up empty. Am I the only one seeing that? I wouldn't be absolutely bowled over shocked to death if it sold out in one day, but it would sure surprise me a little.

Beeeej

Al DeFlorio
22G here; on the road with a smartphone; hard to choose seats at 3G speeds. In the house, at least.

When I go to their website, I see exactly one seat left, all the way in the back of Section 9, and searching for any pair of seats together at all comes up empty. Am I the only one seeing that? I wouldn't be absolutely bowled over shocked to death if it sold out in one day, but it would sure surprise me a little.

I was seeing something similar at ~5:00 pm. So, I think it is possible.

Aaron M. Griffin

Beeeej

Al DeFlorio
22G here; on the road with a smartphone; hard to choose seats at 3G speeds. In the house, at least.

When I go to their website, I see exactly one seat left, all the way in the back of Section 9, and searching for any pair of seats together at all comes up empty. Am I the only one seeing that? I wouldn't be absolutely bowled over shocked to death if it sold out in one day, but it would sure surprise me a little.

I was seeing something similar at ~5:00 pm. So, I think it is possible.

There were never a great number of seats. The rest of my row were gone in a few minutes. Most of the rest were in the end, and even those weren't a large block, rather a few here and there. You can always try CU or the CC of Boston. And others might open up once they see who renews their season tickets.

I got mine at about 9:30 this morning and already there were a number of sections showing sold out and the rest with limited availability. I grabbed 6 in Section 1, 3 on one side of the section, 3 on the other.

Killer
I got mine at about 9:30 this morning and already there were a number of sections showing sold out and the rest with limited availability. I grabbed 6 in Section 1, 3 on one side of the section, 3 on the other.

Same experience at about the same time this morning. Must be holding some tickets back, or some other new ploy to avoid the usual embarrassingly-large Cornell crowd.

At 11:04am there were only a smattering of singles left.

I noticed the same thing shortly after 9am. Only a few single seats in the 'center ice' section on the cornell side, with some seats on the sides. Got tix in section 22. Last year there were a number of seats center ice, however, I believe CCOB had not set aside their normal block when tix went on sale last year. Seats must have been held this year, either by Harvard, CCOB or both.

I called the ticket office this morning with a question and got through without much difficulty, so it's not like the phone lines were busy (I know, who buys tickets these days by talking to someone on the phone ..)

Al DeFlorio

Killer
I got mine at about 9:30 this morning and already there were a number of sections showing sold out and the rest with limited availability. I grabbed 6 in Section 1, 3 on one side of the section, 3 on the other.

Same experience at about the same time this morning. Must be holding some tickets back, or some other new ploy to avoid the usual embarrassingly-large Cornell crowd.

The last couple of years (after they stopped playing tricks like 'we're not selling to CU fans' or 'you have to buy our 4-pack to get that game') they have been releasing tickets in phases. For example, the day tickets went on sale, they would have no tickets available for any search criteria, but several weeks later, there were tickets magically appearing. Also, there were no SRO tickets being sold today, which is what I usually try to get because they are cheaper and I usually stand in the back anyway.

I bought mine around 11:15 am, and I saw a smattering of singles in the corners, with about 4-5 sets of doubles still available.

All this said, that's a pretty sophisticated online ticket selection site, for a program like Harvard.

CowbellGuy
At 11:04am there were only a smattering of singles left.

You go to better parties than I.

You still might be able to get a ticket if you pay for entry into CCoB's exclusive cool people pre-game party at John Harvard's!

The new RedCast improvement thread made me notice that Red Cast "really sucks," but Harvard only "sucks." That can't be right. Surely that's backwards. Red Cast may be bad, but is it really worse than Harvard?

It's just perspective - we have actual expectations for Red Cast.

jtn27
The new RedCast improvement thread made me notice that Red Cast "really sucks," but Harvard only "sucks." That can't be right. Surely that's backwards. Red Cast may be bad, but is it really worse than Harvard?

I can't see how bad harvard is because redcast is so bad.

jtn27
The new RedCast improvement thread made me notice that Red Cast "really sucks," but Harvard only "sucks." That can't be right. Surely that's backwards. Red Cast may be bad, but is it really worse than Harvard?

When Harvard is terrible it's good.

Robb
It's just perspective - we have actual expectations for Red Cast.

Were this Facebook, you'd have an overload of Likes. Great line.

jtn27
The new RedCast improvement thread made me notice that Red Cast "really sucks," but Harvard only "sucks." That can't be right. Surely that's backwards. Red Cast may be bad, but is it really worse than Harvard?

Harvard doesn't just "suck[]", Harvard "SUCKS".

RichH

Al DeFlorio

Killer
I got mine at about 9:30 this morning and already there were a number of sections showing sold out and the rest with limited availability. I grabbed 6 in Section 1, 3 on one side of the section, 3 on the other.

Same experience at about the same time this morning. Must be holding some tickets back, or some other new ploy to avoid the usual embarrassingly-large Cornell crowd.

The last couple of years (after they stopped playing tricks like 'we're not selling to CU fans' or 'you have to buy our 4-pack to get that game') they have been releasing tickets in phases. For example, the day tickets went on sale, they would have no tickets available for any search criteria, but several weeks later, there were tickets magically appearing. Also, there were no SRO tickets being sold today, which is what I usually try to get because they are cheaper and I usually stand in the back anyway.

I bought mine around 11:15 am, and I saw a smattering of singles in the corners, with about 4-5 sets of doubles still available.

All this said, that's a pretty sophisticated online ticket selection site, for a program like Harvard.

And damn quick to get the tickets into the mail. Mine arrived Friday afternoon. Now the challenge is to put them someplace that I'll remember 5 months from now.

While this is not hockey, it does pertain to Hahvahd Sucking:

Harvard senior co-captain Kyle Casey plans to withdraw from school and is likely to miss the entire 2012-13 season after being implicated in a widespread academic cheating scandal, multiple sources told SI.com.

[sportsillustrated.cnn.com]

Cheer fodder, to be sure.

Trotsky
Cheer fodder, to be sure.

Give me a C
Give me an H
Give me an E
Give me an A
Give me a T

Whats that spell... Harvard

(I am sure the faithful can do better)

Jordan 04
While this is not hockey, it does pertain to Hahvahd Sucking:

Harvard senior co-captain Kyle Casey plans to withdraw from school and is likely to miss the entire 2012-13 season after being implicated in a widespread academic cheating scandal, multiple sources told SI.com.

[sportsillustrated.cnn.com]

I saw something about this on the ESPN ticket earlier (because apparently Ivy League sports are important enough when it's Harvard) and I think it said one other player was implicated in addition to Casey.

Harvard sucks.

Josh '99

Jordan 04
While this is not hockey, it does pertain to Hahvahd Sucking:

Harvard senior co-captain Kyle Casey plans to withdraw from school and is likely to miss the entire 2012-13 season after being implicated in a widespread academic cheating scandal, multiple sources told SI.com.

[sportsillustrated.cnn.com]

I saw something about this on the ESPN ticket earlier (because apparently Ivy League sports are important enough when it's Harvard) and I think it said one other player was implicated in addition to Casey.

Harvard sucks.

Co-captain and team assist leader Brandon Curry is also being investigated and will likely withdraw from Harvard too. It's in the link above.
That means Harvard will likely be without their top scorer and assist leader. So much for that second trip to the NCAA tournament. I guess they'll have to wait another 66 years

jtn27

Josh '99

Jordan 04
While this is not hockey, it does pertain to Hahvahd Sucking:

Harvard senior co-captain Kyle Casey plans to withdraw from school and is likely to miss the entire 2012-13 season after being implicated in a widespread academic cheating scandal, multiple sources told SI.com.

[sportsillustrated.cnn.com]

I saw something about this on the ESPN ticket earlier (because apparently Ivy League sports are important enough when it's Harvard) and I think it said one other player was implicated in addition to Casey.

Harvard sucks.

Co-captain and team assist leader Brandon Curry is also being investigated and will likely withdraw from Harvard too. It's in the link above.
That means Harvard will likely be without their top scorer and assist leader. So much for that second trip to the NCAA tournament. I guess they'll have to wait another 66 years

I read somewhere that it was Curry, Casey, and potentially another player. Also are we really complaining about something that makes Harvard look bad getting coverage (other than that it makes the league as a whole look bad, but my animosity toward Harvard is high enough that I don't care).

Towerroad

Trotsky
Cheer fodder, to be sure.

Give me a C
Give me an H
Give me an E
Give me an A
Give me a T

Whats that spell... Harvard

(I am sure the faithful can do better)

Give me an A
Give me an A
Give me an A
Give me an A

.......

marty

Towerroad

Trotsky
Cheer fodder, to be sure.

Give me a C
Give me an H
Give me an E
Give me an A
Give me a T

Whats that spell... Harvard

(I am sure the faithful can do better)

Give me an A
Give me an A
Give me an A
Give me an A

.......

The best chants have some element of believability and I don't think anyone on here believes that Sucks students take even four classes.

Also, in this case, wouldn't it be "steal an A,..."?

css228

jtn27

Josh '99

Jordan 04
While this is not hockey, it does pertain to Hahvahd Sucking:

Harvard senior co-captain Kyle Casey plans to withdraw from school and is likely to miss the entire 2012-13 season after being implicated in a widespread academic cheating scandal, multiple sources told SI.com.

[sportsillustrated.cnn.com]

I saw something about this on the ESPN ticket earlier (because apparently Ivy League sports are important enough when it's Harvard) and I think it said one other player was implicated in addition to Casey.

Harvard sucks.

Co-captain and team assist leader Brandon Curry is also being investigated and will likely withdraw from Harvard too. It's in the link above.
That means Harvard will likely be without their top scorer and assist leader. So much for that second trip to the NCAA tournament. I guess they'll have to wait another 66 years

I read somewhere that it was Curry, Casey, and potentially another player. Also are we really complaining about something that makes Harvard look bad getting coverage (other than that it makes the league as a whole look bad, but my animosity toward Harvard is high enough that I don't care).

I wasn't so much complaining about the fact that this particular incident was drawing attention to Harvard as about that they seemed to (though this is my subjective recollection and maybe I'm wrong) get so much more hype last year than the far-superior (IMO) Wittman-Dale-Foote Cornell teams of a few years back.

Aaron M. Griffin

marty

Towerroad

Trotsky
Cheer fodder, to be sure.

Give me a C
Give me an H
Give me an E
Give me an A
Give me a T

Whats that spell... Harvard

(I am sure the faithful can do better)

Give me an A
Give me an A
Give me an A
Give me an A

.......

The best chants have some element of believability and I don't think anyone on here believes that Sucks students take even four classes.

Also, in this case, wouldn't it be "steal an A,..."?

I hate to break tradition but perhaps during the introductions we could put down our papers and just chant CHEATER...CHEATER slow and steady. I suspect that if this was taken up at every Ivy venue the punishment would be far worse, and more effective, that any doled out by the SUCKS admin.

Towerroad

Aaron M. Griffin

marty

Towerroad

Trotsky
Cheer fodder, to be sure.

Give me a C
Give me an H
Give me an E
Give me an A
Give me a T

Whats that spell... Harvard

(I am sure the faithful can do better)

Give me an A
Give me an A
Give me an A
Give me an A

.......

The best chants have some element of believability and I don't think anyone on here believes that Sucks students take even four classes.

Also, in this case, wouldn't it be "steal an A,..."?

I hate to break tradition but perhaps during the introductions we could put down our papers and just chant CHEATER...CHEATER slow and steady. I suspect that if this was taken up at every Ivy venue the punishment would be far worse, and more effective, that any doled out by the SUCKS admin.

Dangle the paper with one hand while taunting "Answer Key!"

Trotsky
Dangle the paper with one hand while taunting "Answer Key!"

Three rocks.

Josh '99

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jtn27

Josh '99

Jordan 04
While this is not hockey, it does pertain to Hahvahd Sucking:

Harvard senior co-captain Kyle Casey plans to withdraw from school and is likely to miss the entire 2012-13 season after being implicated in a widespread academic cheating scandal, multiple sources told SI.com.

[sportsillustrated.cnn.com]

I saw something about this on the ESPN ticket earlier (because apparently Ivy League sports are important enough when it's Harvard) and I think it said one other player was implicated in addition to Casey.

Harvard sucks.

Co-captain and team assist leader Brandon Curry is also being investigated and will likely withdraw from Harvard too. It's in the link above.
That means Harvard will likely be without their top scorer and assist leader. So much for that second trip to the NCAA tournament. I guess they'll have to wait another 66 years

I read somewhere that it was Curry, Casey, and potentially another player. Also are we really complaining about something that makes Harvard look bad getting coverage (other than that it makes the league as a whole look bad, but my animosity toward Harvard is high enough that I don't care).

I wasn't so much complaining about the fact that this particular incident was drawing attention to Harvard as about that they seemed to (though this is my subjective recollection and maybe I'm wrong) get so much more hype last year than the far-superior (IMO) Wittman-Dale-Foote Cornell teams of a few years back.

Because Harvard is much more of a household name and sportswriters are tremendously lazy.

French Rage

Josh '99

css228

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Josh '99

Jordan 04
While this is not hockey, it does pertain to Hahvahd Sucking:

Harvard senior co-captain Kyle Casey plans to withdraw from school and is likely to miss the entire 2012-13 season after being implicated in a widespread academic cheating scandal, multiple sources told SI.com.

[sportsillustrated.cnn.com]

I saw something about this on the ESPN ticket earlier (because apparently Ivy League sports are important enough when it's Harvard) and I think it said one other player was implicated in addition to Casey.

Harvard sucks.

Co-captain and team assist leader Brandon Curry is also being investigated and will likely withdraw from Harvard too. It's in the link above.
That means Harvard will likely be without their top scorer and assist leader. So much for that second trip to the NCAA tournament. I guess they'll have to wait another 66 years

I read somewhere that it was Curry, Casey, and potentially another player. Also are we really complaining about something that makes Harvard look bad getting coverage (other than that it makes the league as a whole look bad, but my animosity toward Harvard is high enough that I don't care).

I wasn't so much complaining about the fact that this particular incident was drawing attention to Harvard as about that they seemed to (though this is my subjective recollection and maybe I'm wrong) get so much more hype last year than the far-superior (IMO) Wittman-Dale-Foote Cornell teams of a few years back.

Because Harvard is much more of a household name and sportswriters are tremendously lazy.

This. Such is life.

Tim Tebow seemed to get so much more hype last year than the far-superior, well, everyone. 24/7 Matt Schaub coverage doesn't attract the eyeballs.

1) I encourage and support all cheers dinging Harvard as cheaters.
2) This cheating scandal feels like heaps of bullshit. There is no way 125 kids got together and decided to cheat in direct contradiction to explicit instructions. Not because 125 kids wouldn't cheat in small ways but because a "conspiracy" that large is unlikely to go undetected. The more likely explanation is that the rules regarding cooperation and discussion were ambiguous at best or indicated that such collaboration was permitted at worst. The administration is letting the kids take the fall for something that was probably the professor's fault.

ugarte
1) I encourage and support all cheers dinging Harvard as cheaters.
2) This cheating scandal feels like heaps of bullshit. There is no way 125 kids got together and decided to cheat in direct contradiction to explicit instructions. Not because 125 kids wouldn't cheat in small ways but because a "conspiracy" that large is unlikely to go undetected. The more likely explanation is that the rules regarding cooperation and discussion were ambiguous at best or indicated that such collaboration was permitted at worst. The administration is letting the kids take the fall for something that was probably the professor's fault.

Sounds like there was plenty of badness to go round.

Best quote:

In years past, the course, Introduction to Congress, had a reputation as one of the easiest at Harvard College. Some of the 279 students who took it in the spring semester said that the teacher, Matthew B. Platt, an assistant professor of government, told them at the outset that he gave high grades and that neither attending his lectures nor the discussion sessions with graduate teaching fellows was mandatory.

“He said, ‘I gave out 120 A’s last year, and I’ll give out 120 more,’ ” one accused student said.

But evaluations posted online by students after finals — before the cheating charges were made — in Harvard’s Q Guide were filled with seething assessments, and made clear that the class was no longer easy.

You forgot to add, "3) Harvard sucks."

Trotsky
Sounds like there was plenty of badness to go round.

Best quote:

In years past, the course, Introduction to Congress, had a reputation as one of the easiest at Harvard College. Some of the 279 students who took it in the spring semester said that the teacher, Matthew B. Platt, an assistant professor of government, told them at the outset that he gave high grades and that neither attending his lectures nor the discussion sessions with graduate teaching fellows was mandatory.

“He said, ‘I gave out 120 A’s last year, and I’ll give out 120 more,’ ” one accused student said.

But evaluations posted online by students after finals — before the cheating charges were made — in Harvard’s Q Guide were filled with seething assessments, and made clear that the class was no longer easy.

I think that the author grossly misunderstands Harvard College grading. A course in which only 43% of students get As is in fact hard by Harvard standards. So, there was likely no change in grading policy.

Trotsky

ugarte
1) I encourage and support all cheers dinging Harvard as cheaters.
2) This cheating scandal feels like heaps of bullshit. There is no way 125 kids got together and decided to cheat in direct contradiction to explicit instructions. Not because 125 kids wouldn't cheat in small ways but because a "conspiracy" that large is unlikely to go undetected. The more likely explanation is that the rules regarding cooperation and discussion were ambiguous at best or indicated that such collaboration was permitted at worst. The administration is letting the kids take the fall for something that was probably the professor's fault.

Sounds like there was plenty of badness to go round.

Best quote:

In years past, the course, Introduction to Congress, had a reputation as one of the easiest at Harvard College. Some of the 279 students who took it in the spring semester said that the teacher, Matthew B. Platt, an assistant professor of government, told them at the outset that he gave high grades and that neither attending his lectures nor the discussion sessions with graduate teaching fellows was mandatory.

“He said, ‘I gave out 120 A’s last year, and I’ll give out 120 more,’ ” one accused student said.

But evaluations posted online by students after finals — before the cheating charges were made — in Harvard’s Q Guide were filled with seething assessments, and made clear that the class was no longer easy.

I liked the following "An accused sophomore said that in working on exams, “everybody went to the T.F.’s and begged for help. Some of the T.F.’s really laid it out for you, as explicit as you need, so of course the answers were the same.” "

Every time I took a prelim or final I would do the same thing. I would raise my hand and ask the proctor "What is the answer to number 27 oh and by the way, could you solve this problem for me?"

Frankly, I am surprised that Harvard even has exams since the grade is know before the class starts.

Oh, I almost forgot Harvard Sucks

Towerroad
Every time I took a prelim or final I would do the same thing. I would raise my hand and ask the proctor "What is the answer to number 27 oh and by the way, could you solve this problem for me?"

In the future Harvard should just distribute pre-answered exams and have the students fill their names in.

Harvardo delenda est.

Towerroad
I liked the following "An accused sophomore said that in working on exams, “everybody went to the T.F.’s and begged for help. Some of the T.F.’s really laid it out for you, as explicit as you need, so of course the answers were the same.” "

That's my point, though. If the TF practice was to discuss the contents of an exam with the students, that's on the school for having a poorly explained (or enforced) policy regarding exams.

Trotsky

Towerroad
Every time I took a prelim or final I would do the same thing. I would raise my hand and ask the proctor "What is the answer to number 27 oh and by the way, could you solve this problem for me?"

In the future Harvard should just distribute pre-answered exams and have the students fill their names in.

Harvardo delenda est.

That is a lot of work, and they might get hand cramps. Better play it safe and just give everybody the grade they deserve. Ooops I meant an A not the grade they deserve.

Harvard sugit

ugarte

Towerroad
I liked the following "An accused sophomore said that in working on exams, “everybody went to the T.F.’s and begged for help. Some of the T.F.’s really laid it out for you, as explicit as you need, so of course the answers were the same.” "

That's my point, though. If the TF practice was to discuss the contents of an exam with the students, that's on the school for having a poorly explained (or enforced) policy regarding exams.

I'm inclined to agree with ugarte. I find it very hard to believe that 125 students all worked together on the exam (or in a series of interconnected groups). If it was 5 or 10 students, I would say they cheated, but 125 is just too high a number for me to accept that the professor or TF was not in any way responsible.

jtn27

ugarte

Towerroad
I liked the following "An accused sophomore said that in working on exams, “everybody went to the T.F.’s and begged for help. Some of the T.F.’s really laid it out for you, as explicit as you need, so of course the answers were the same.” "

That's my point, though. If the TF practice was to discuss the contents of an exam with the students, that's on the school for having a poorly explained (or enforced) policy regarding exams.

I'm inclined to agree with ugarte. I find it very hard to believe that 125 students all worked together on the exam (or in a series of interconnected groups). If it was 5 or 10 students, I would say they cheated, but 125 is just too high a number for me to accept that the professor or TF was not in any way responsible.

I can understand what you're saying and it makes a lot f sense. On the other hand, Harvard has made a big enough deal out of this that they have attracted national, negative attention. I can easily imagine the prof making a stink and being unwilling to admit he might have made mistakes in instructions/whatever, but would the administration carry it this far along if there weren't some substance to the story?

Then again, the administration at Harvard sucks tyoo.

KeithK

jtn27

ugarte

Towerroad
I liked the following "An accused sophomore said that in working on exams, “everybody went to the T.F.’s and begged for help. Some of the T.F.’s really laid it out for you, as explicit as you need, so of course the answers were the same.” "

That's my point, though. If the TF practice was to discuss the contents of an exam with the students, that's on the school for having a poorly explained (or enforced) policy regarding exams.

I'm inclined to agree with ugarte. I find it very hard to believe that 125 students all worked together on the exam (or in a series of interconnected groups). If it was 5 or 10 students, I would say they cheated, but 125 is just too high a number for me to accept that the professor or TF was not in any way responsible.

I can understand what you're saying and it makes a lot f sense. On the other hand, Harvard has made a big enough deal out of this that they have attracted national, negative attention. I can easily imagine the prof making a stink and being unwilling to admit he might have made mistakes in instructions/whatever, but would the administration carry it this far along if there weren't some substance to the story?

Then again, the administration at Harvard sucks tyoo.

Yup.

ugarte

KeithK

jtn27

ugarte

Towerroad
I liked the following "An accused sophomore said that in working on exams, “everybody went to the T.F.’s and begged for help. Some of the T.F.’s really laid it out for you, as explicit as you need, so of course the answers were the same.” "

That's my point, though. If the TF practice was to discuss the contents of an exam with the students, that's on the school for having a poorly explained (or enforced) policy regarding exams.

I'm inclined to agree with ugarte. I find it very hard to believe that 125 students all worked together on the exam (or in a series of interconnected groups). If it was 5 or 10 students, I would say they cheated, but 125 is just too high a number for me to accept that the professor or TF was not in any way responsible.

I can understand what you're saying and it makes a lot f sense. On the other hand, Harvard has made a big enough deal out of this that they have attracted national, negative attention. I can easily imagine the prof making a stink and being unwilling to admit he might have made mistakes in instructions/whatever, but would the administration carry it this far along if there weren't some substance to the story?

Then again, the administration at Harvard sucks tyoo.

Yup.

The admin being a subset of Harvard would of course suck. The quesiton I have is if Harvard=Sucks, would it be appropriate for a Red
Sox fan to say "Yankees harvard!"? If so would it then be appropriate to say "Harvard harvards."?

The more I read about the nature of the cheating the less I stand by my feeling that the students (as a group) are being railroaded. If people were cut-and-pasting material that was being shared, that's obviously bullshit. That isn't collaboration and consultation; it's closer to plagiarism.

ugarte
The more I read about the nature of the cheating the less I stand by my feeling that the students (as a group) are being railroaded. If people were cut-and-pasting material that was being shared, that's obviously bullshit. That isn't collaboration and consultation; it's closer to plagiarism.

Are you suggesting that the suck at cheating too?