2024-25 Players Graduating

Making the thread with utmost sorrow, but with the end of the Big Red's season, we'll see a lot of Cornellians move on, some to the pro leagues. As such, let's keep it in one thread.

Seniors:
Hank Kempf [Avalanche] - Colorado Eagles (ATO->contract, AHL)
Jimmy Rayhill - In Transfer Portal
Jack O'Leary - Norfolk Admirals (ATO, ECHL)
Tim Rego - Ontario Reign (ATO->contract, ECHL->AHL)
Kyler Kovich - Minnesota-Duluth (Transfer Portal)
Sullivan Mack - Hartford Wolfpack (ATO->contract, AHL)
Kyle Penney
Ondrej Psenicka
Michael Suda - Savannah Ghost Pirates (contract, ECHL)
Ian Shane - Norfolk Admirals (ATO, ECHL)

Players Scouted:
Ryan Walsh [Bruins]
Dalton Bancroft - Bruins (ATO->contract, AHL->NHL)

Other Drafted Players:
Jonathan Castagna [Utah]
Hoyt Stanley [Senators]
George Fegaras [Stars]
Luke Devlin [Penguins]

Other Players:
Ben Robertson - Michigan (Transfer Portal)

Transfer Portal Link 1, Link 2.

(Please note, this isn't to say I expect everyone on this list to get signed. It's just a point of reference.)

It’s a scary list nonetheless.

toddlose
It’s a scary list nonetheless.

Terrifying.

Who is our starting goalie for next season? Can we get that whole no grad-players rule changed?

stereax
Making the thread with utmost sorrow, but with the end of the Big Red's season, we'll see a lot of Cornellians move on, some to the pro leagues. As such, let's keep it in one thread.

Seniors:
Hank Kempf - Avalanche
Jimmy Rayhill
Jack O'Leary
Tim Rego
Kyler Kovich
Sullivan Mack
Kyle Penney
Ondrej Psenicka
Michael Suda
Ian Shane

Players Scouted:
Ryan Walsh - Bruins
Dalton Bancroft

Other Drafted Players:
Jonathan Castagna - Utah
Hoyt Stanley - Senators
George Fegaras - Stars

Luke Devlin is also drafted

This team needs a goalie for next season. Looks like we’re going to have to find it from the players/recruits we already have. That’s the question mark, and it’s a major one. Aside from that we can just hope for an ECAC that is as weak as possible so that we can get an automatic bid again.

Not that worried about the team aside from the lack of goalie.

I would imagine that it is Bancroft and the seniors that we lose, probably don’t have to worry about Walsh and castagna leaving until next year. We have tons of talented recruits coming in that should be able to fill in for most of the seniors production, when also accounting for the development of guys already on the team. For forwards Hiscock, Pelletier, DiGuilian, Pirtle, and Long should be serviceable to good next year which replaces most of what we lose with the seniors. On defense Gorski looks like a good defensive defenseman and Veilleux looks like our next great offensive defenseman.

My main concern next year is in net. They clearly didn’t trust Keopple too much this year but I think he had to be the starter. Katz seems a bit small and didn’t look great in the exhibition games (all I have to work off of). Our goalie recruit, Roest, got chased from the USHL and not can’t even find minutes in the BCHL so that is not exactly encouraging. Maybe Casey can nab us an overage QMJHL guy but if not we can at least hope that our defense is good enough that we can be good with any goalie.

Just a couple hours after the loss and I’m honestly already really exited for next year, mainly because of this great recruiting class.

chimpfood
I would imagine that it is Bancroft and the seniors that we lose, probably don’t have to worry about Walsh and castagna leaving until next year. We have tons of talented recruits coming in that should be able to fill in for most of the seniors production, when also accounting for the development of guys already on the team. For forwards Hiscock, Pelletier, DiGuilian, Pirtle, and Long should be serviceable to good next year which replaces most of what we lose with the seniors. On defense Gorski looks like a good defensive defenseman and Veilleux looks like our next great offensive defenseman.

My main concern next year is in net. They clearly didn’t trust Keopple too much this year but I think he had to be the starter. Katz seems a bit small and didn’t look great in the exhibition games (all I have to work off of). Our goalie recruit, Roest, got chased from the USHL and not can’t even find minutes in the BCHL so that is not exactly encouraging. Maybe Casey can nab us an overage QMJHL guy but if not we can at least hope that our defense is good enough that we can be good with any goalie.

Just a couple hours after the loss and I’m honestly already really exited for next year, mainly because of this great recruiting class.

If Bancroft wants to leave the team after what happened today then he can screw off. I bet he stays though. That’s based on nothing other than believing he loves his teammates.

Either way, it’s really just a question of the goalie. Find a good goalie=should be back in the NCAAs

BearLover

chimpfood
I would imagine that it is Bancroft and the seniors that we lose, probably don’t have to worry about Walsh and castagna leaving until next year. We have tons of talented recruits coming in that should be able to fill in for most of the seniors production, when also accounting for the development of guys already on the team. For forwards Hiscock, Pelletier, DiGuilian, Pirtle, and Long should be serviceable to good next year which replaces most of what we lose with the seniors. On defense Gorski looks like a good defensive defenseman and Veilleux looks like our next great offensive defenseman.

My main concern next year is in net. They clearly didn’t trust Keopple too much this year but I think he had to be the starter. Katz seems a bit small and didn’t look great in the exhibition games (all I have to work off of). Our goalie recruit, Roest, got chased from the USHL and not can’t even find minutes in the BCHL so that is not exactly encouraging. Maybe Casey can nab us an overage QMJHL guy but if not we can at least hope that our defense is good enough that we can be good with any goalie.

Just a couple hours after the loss and I’m honestly already really exited for next year, mainly because of this great recruiting class.

If Bancroft wants to leave the team after what happened today then he can screw off. I bet he stays though. That’s based on nothing other than believing he loves his teammates.

Either way, it’s really just a question of the goalie. Find a good goalie=should be back in the NCAAs

I hadn’t even thought about leaving until I saw the article about NHL interest in him. It seems like if there’s that many bites he would go and his quotes seemed to indicate that too. If he comes back I feel really good about our scoring production.

BearLover

stereax
Making the thread with utmost sorrow, but with the end of the Big Red's season, we'll see a lot of Cornellians move on, some to the pro leagues. As such, let's keep it in one thread.

Seniors:
Hank Kempf - Avalanche
Jimmy Rayhill
Jack O'Leary
Tim Rego
Kyler Kovich
Sullivan Mack
Kyle Penney
Ondrej Psenicka
Michael Suda
Ian Shane

Players Scouted:
Ryan Walsh - Bruins
Dalton Bancroft

Other Drafted Players:
Jonathan Castagna - Utah
Hoyt Stanley - Senators
George Fegaras - Stars

Luke Devlin is also drafted

This team needs a goalie for next season. Looks like we’re going to have to find it from the players/recruits we already have. That’s the question mark, and it’s a major one. Aside from that we can just hope for an ECAC that is as weak as possible so that we can get an automatic bid again.

Not that worried about the team aside from the lack of goalie.

I missed Devlin, mostly because I have never seen him play lol. Let me add him in.

chimpfood
Maybe Casey can nab us an overage QMJHL guy

I don't think Riley Mercer's got a college commitment...

617BigRed
Who is our starting goalie for next season? Can we get that whole no grad-players rule changed?

Keoppel or Roest.

It won't change, as dumb as it is.

Trotsky

617BigRed
Who is our starting goalie for next season? Can we get that whole no grad-players rule changed?

Keoppel or Roest.

It won't change, as dumb as it is.

Is Shane staying for grad?

ER

Trotsky

617BigRed
Who is our starting goalie for next season? Can we get that whole no grad-players rule changed?

Keoppel or Roest.

It won't change, as dumb as it is.

Is Shane staying for grad?

Ivy rules don't allow grads, as far as I recall.

stereax

ER

Trotsky

617BigRed
Who is our starting goalie for next season? Can we get that whole no grad-players rule changed?

Keoppel or Roest.

It won't change, as dumb as it is.

Is Shane staying for grad?

Ivy rules don't allow grads, as far as I recall.

I know. I was asking if he was staying for grad school

ER

stereax

ER

Trotsky

617BigRed
Who is our starting goalie for next season? Can we get that whole no grad-players rule changed?

Keoppel or Roest.

It won't change, as dumb as it is.

Is Shane staying for grad?

Ivy rules don't allow grads, as far as I recall.

I know. I was asking if he was staying for grad school

Does he qualify? I thought the 5-year plan was a one-off for guys who played in 20-21. Shane's entire tenure came after Dump's Dysmenorrhea.

Trotsky

ER

stereax

ER

Trotsky

617BigRed
Who is our starting goalie for next season? Can we get that whole no grad-players rule changed?

Keoppel or Roest.

It won't change, as dumb as it is.

Is Shane staying for grad?

Ivy rules don't allow grads, as far as I recall.

I know. I was asking if he was staying for grad school

Does he qualify? I thought the 5-year plan was a one-off for guys who played in 20-21. Shane's entire tenure came after Dump's Dysmenorrhea.

I think, if I understand correctly, ER's asking if Shane won't stay at Cornell as a grad student, not as a grad student hockey player. The answer to which is, we'll have to see.

Trotsky

ER

stereax

ER

Trotsky

617BigRed
Who is our starting goalie for next season? Can we get that whole no grad-players rule changed?

Keoppel or Roest.

It won't change, as dumb as it is.

Is Shane staying for grad?

Ivy rules don't allow grads, as far as I recall.

I know. I was asking if he was staying for grad school

Does he qualify? I thought the 5-year plan was a one-off for guys who played in 20-21. Shane's entire tenure came after Dump's Dysmenorrhea.

FFS I’m
Not asking about hockey, just if he’s staying for grad school.

BearLover

If Bancroft wants to leave the team after what happened today then he can screw off.

Even if it isn't the most traditional route, this is still a development league. We shouldn't begrudge a guy for taking his chance to turn pro, especially after a run like this. His game has been pretty consistent in his three years. I hope he comes back too but he doesn't really have anything left to prove at Cornell from a personal or developmental standpoint.

VIEWfromK

BearLover

If Bancroft wants to leave the team after what happened today then he can screw off.

Even if it isn't the most traditional route, this is still a development league. We shouldn't begrudge a guy for taking his chance to turn pro, especially after a run like this. His game has been pretty consistent in his three years. I hope he comes back too but he doesn't really have anything left to prove at Cornell from a personal or developmental standpoint.

While I certainly want him back, the fact he’s 24 makes me think we may have seen the last of him in a Cornell uniform. And as you said, I wouldn’t begrudge him if he makes the move.

ER
I’m Not asking about hockey, just if he’s staying for grad school.

Ah. I assume he will pursue a pro career for a few more years before sliding down the razorblade of Real Life.

VIEWfromK
Even if it isn't the most traditional route, this is still a development league. We shouldn't begrudge a guy for taking his chance to turn pro, especially after a run like this. His game has been pretty consistent in his three years. I hope he comes back too but he doesn't really have anything left to prove at Cornell from a personal or developmental standpoint.

In my completely unscientific opinion, I don't think Bancroft is ready. His way to the NHL, as it often is with our forwards, is as a defensive forward with offensive upside. He still needs to show far more discipline on the defensive end, particularly in how and when he chooses to clear the puck, and a senior year in Ithaca would do him good.

There were more than a few times this season that I was left yelling "Dalton!" at the screen in the way the guy in front of us in C when I was a kid used to yell at Chris Norton.

Scersk '97

VIEWfromK
Even if it isn't the most traditional route, this is still a development league. We shouldn't begrudge a guy for taking his chance to turn pro, especially after a run like this. His game has been pretty consistent in his three years. I hope he comes back too but he doesn't really have anything left to prove at Cornell from a personal or developmental standpoint.

In my completely unscientific opinion, I don't think Bancroft is ready. His way to the NHL, as it often is with our forwards, is as a defensive forward with offensive upside. He still needs to show far more discipline on the defensive end, particularly in how and when he chooses to clear the puck, and a senior year in Ithaca would do him good.

There were more than a few times this season that I was left yelling "Dalton!" at the screen in the way the guy in front of us in C when I was a kid used to yell at Chris Norton.

You may well be right, but many guys sign before they are “ready” for a variety of reasons, and Dalton would be heading to a minor league in any event for further development. But if comes back I’ll be more than pleased.

Important to remember that hockey has a viable career path without making the NHL. European league players can make good money. Even the AHL (minor league just below the NHL) has a minimum salary of (I think) $75k.

scoop85
You may well be right, but many guys sign before they are “ready” for a variety of reasons, and Dalton would be heading to a minor league in any event for further development. But if comes back I’ll be more than pleased.

Oh sure! Same. I just hope someone is whispering "Shane Hynes" in his ear.

Bancroft is nowhere near ready. He has the makings of a solid two-way like Manderville if he stays and keeps learning the game, but you can see for instance in comparison with Castagna he lacks elite skill, and in comparison with Major -- a freshman! -- he lacks vision of the ice.

I love him as a college player, but he would get eaten for lunch even in the AHL. Now add in that he has a mouth and a bit of a wandering stick and in a fighting league somebody is going to pile drive him.

He needs to stay. I am much more worried about Castagna as a flight risk, and really hope he and fam are committed to Cornell.

As per BU friend, Rayhill and Kovich are in the transfer portal. Going to shake him for a verification.

I hope Jimmy goes to Niagara and scores 10 goals next year!

Trotsky
Bancroft is nowhere near ready. He has the makings of a solid two-way like Manderville if he stays and keeps learning the game, but you can see for instance in comparison with Castagna he lacks elite skill, and in comparison with Major -- a freshman! -- he lacks vision of the ice.

I love him as a college player, but he would get eaten for lunch even in the AHL. Now add in that he has a mouth and a bit of a wandering stick and in a fighting league somebody is going to pile drive him.

He needs to stay. I am much more worried about Castagna as a flight risk, and really hope he and fam are committed to Cornell.

Castagna is not leaving.

Walsh is 5x more likely to leave.

Trotsky
I hope Jimmy goes to Niagara and scores 10 goals next year!

Same!! Is it okay if I (selfishly?) hope his new team plays at Lynah next year?

Trotsky
Bancroft is nowhere near ready. He has the makings of a solid two-way like Manderville if he stays and keeps learning the game, but you can see for instance in comparison with Castagna he lacks elite skill, and in comparison with Major -- a freshman! -- he lacks vision of the ice.

I love him as a college player, but he would get eaten for lunch even in the AHL. Now add in that he has a mouth and a bit of a wandering stick and in a fighting league somebody is going to pile drive him.

He needs to stay. I am much more worried about Castagna as a flight risk, and really hope he and fam are committed to Cornell.

God this feels like baseball arbitration, trashing our own player in the hopes that he stays with us.

stereax
As per BU friend, Rayhill and Kovich are in the transfer portal. Going to shake him for a verification.

[gopherpucklive.com]

Both are listed with today's date (3/20/25). the first day most can enter the portal.

I might go back and watch the end of the senior night game tonight. The moment that Arthur announced the second assist to rayhill was genuinely one of the louder moments at lynah this year

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stereax
As per BU friend, Rayhill and Kovich are in the transfer portal. Going to shake him for a verification.

[gopherpucklive.com]

Both are listed with today's date (3/20/25). the first day most can enter the portal.

Over 100 players already entered. Not many goalies, though Gibson Homer (kept a clean sheet against us this year) is going to be a big addition for someone.

I see Mac Gadowski, who had a great year at West Point, is in the portal. Since he’s Guy’s son, I’d have to believe he’ll be playing for his father at PSU

Dafatone
Important to remember that hockey has a viable career path without making the NHL. European league players can make good money. Even the AHL (minor league just below the NHL) has a minimum salary of (I think) $75k.

Dalton Bancroft is one of several players in the Johnson School. Meaning: He could also find a $75K job in the business world. He's a junior, only one more year to a dregree. I forgot, thought Bancroft was a sophomore ... that is Jonathan Castagna, who is also in the Johnson School.

billhoward

Dafatone
Important to remember that hockey has a viable career path without making the NHL. European league players can make good money. Even the AHL (minor league just below the NHL) has a minimum salary of (I think) $75k.

Dalton Bancroft is one of several players in the Johnson School. Meaning: He could also find a $75K job in the business world. He's a junior, only one more year to a dregree. I forgot, thought Bancroft was a sophomore ... that is Jonathan Castagna, who is also in the Johnson School.

75k isn’t very much money. I would hope he could make 1-2x that.

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Shane signs with Norfolk (ECHL)

Many articles in the past few days have mentioned various NHL teams being interested in Bancroft, but none have mentioned him being likely to sign. Maybe I’m just coping. I really hope three straight regional final losses including an OT loss this season left a bad enough taste in Dalton’s mouth that he wants to come back to school to finally get over the hump.

BearLover
Many articles in the past few days have mentioned various NHL teams being interested in Bancroft, but none have mentioned him being likely to sign. Maybe I’m just coping. I really hope three straight regional final losses including an OT loss this season left a bad enough taste in Dalton’s mouth that he wants to come back to school to finally get over the hump.

Since you/we can't know, you are coping, and I think we're all coping with you.

We've lost enough with the seniors. And I suspect Walsh will be happier if he stays.

margolism
Shane signs with Norfolk (ECHL)

ATO. Possible he gets signed to an AHL/ECHL two-way deal next year?

stereax

margolism
Shane signs with Norfolk (ECHL)

ATO. Possible he gets signed to an AHL/ECHL two-way deal next year?

There are so few spots and so many goalies, I don't think he gets more than an ECHL deal. He's small and had an unimpressive senior year. His pro future is probably Europe.

Ian Shane signs amateur tryout with Norfolk Admirals and could play tonight

[x.com]

tretiak

stereax

margolism
Shane signs with Norfolk (ECHL)

ATO. Possible he gets signed to an AHL/ECHL two-way deal next year?

There are so few spots and so many goalies, I don't think he gets more than an ECHL deal. He's small and had an unimpressive senior year. His pro future is probably Europe.

We'll have to see. Damn, though.

Would’ve been intriguing to see where he would have gone coming off last season. It will be long haul for him.

arugula
Would’ve been intriguing to see where he would have gone coming off last season. It will be long haul for him.

At the end of the day, it’s going to come down to how he performs in the pros. Matt Galajda was one of the best goalies in Cornell hockey history and he is now out of hockey just a few years after graduating. Probably because he wanted to get on with his life with the NHL not being an attainable goal.

NHL teams don’t like small goalies for better or worse

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Sullivan Mack to Hartford Wolfpack for ATO

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Sullivan Mack to Hartford Wolfpack for ATO

ATO and then a contract for next year!

stereax

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Sullivan Mack to Hartford Wolfpack for ATO

ATO and then a contract for next year!

Was just about to add that in!
Thank you!!

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stereax

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Sullivan Mack to Hartford Wolfpack for ATO

ATO and then a contract for next year!

Was just about to add that in!
Thank you!!

Of course! I'm keeping an updated tally on the first post of the thread.

underskill
NHL teams don’t like small goalies for better or worse

Yes. Dustin wolf may be the exception.

arugula

underskill
NHL teams don’t like small goalies for better or worse

Yes. Dustin wolf may be the exception.

Juuse Saros has entered the chat.

Yes indeed. We had this debate a few years back when Shane was breaking through and Cornell often having smaller goalies.

arugula
Yes indeed. We had this debate a few years back when Shane was breaking through and Cornell often having smaller goalies.

Jim Crozier was 5'3.

ugarte

arugula
Yes indeed. We had this debate a few years back when Shane was breaking through and Cornell often having smaller goalies.

Jim Crozier was 5'3.

I have Jim Crozier at 5' 9" 161. If this is a joke, I apologize, or perhaps I made it better.

Trotsky

ugarte

arugula
Yes indeed. We had this debate a few years back when Shane was breaking through and Cornell often having smaller goalies.

Jim Crozier was 5'3.

I have Jim Crozier at 5' 9" 161. If this is a joke, I apologize, or perhaps I made it better.

Brian Cropper was 5'6" and 29-0-0.

Al DeFlorio

Trotsky

ugarte

arugula
Yes indeed. We had this debate a few years back when Shane was breaking through and Cornell often having smaller goalies.

Jim Crozier was 5'3.

I have Jim Crozier at 5' 9" 161. If this is a joke, I apologize, or perhaps I made it better.

Brian Cropper was 5'6" and 29-0-0.

But that was in a universe far, far away and a long time ago.

Bancroft has signed with the Bruins. He will be assigned to Providence for the remainder of this season before a one-year entry level contract with the Bruins starts next season. Based on a recent conversation I had with one of the seniors, it sounds like it is a good scenario for him to join a team that is rebuilding and might get some play.

CUDrew0105
Bancroft has signed with the Bruins. He will be assigned to Providence for the remainder of this season before a one-year entry level contract with the Bruins starts next season. Based on a recent conversation I had with one of the seniors, it sounds like it is a good scenario for him to join a team that is rebuilding and might get some play.

happy positive message

BearLover

CUDrew0105
Bancroft has signed with the Bruins. He will be assigned to Providence for the remainder of this season before a one-year entry level contract with the Bruins starts next season. Based on a recent conversation I had with one of the seniors, it sounds like it is a good scenario for him to join a team that is rebuilding and might get some play.

happy positive message

rainbows and unicorn poop

Beeeej

BearLover

CUDrew0105
Bancroft has signed with the Bruins. He will be assigned to Providence for the remainder of this season before a one-year entry level contract with the Bruins starts next season. Based on a recent conversation I had with one of the seniors, it sounds like it is a good scenario for him to join a team that is rebuilding and might get some play.

I was hoping the silver lining of our season ending in such excruciating fashion was that Bancroft would stay to help his program finally get to a frozen four. I guess he decided he’d rather have a bunch of cash. This is very bad news for our chances next year, hopefully we can add someone from the portal or a CHL overager to replace him (unlikely).

I'm sure he thought of your specific personal anguish with glee as he inked the contract.

I usually stay silent about your bullshit, BL, but now you're just being an irredeemable asshole. You know nothing of the Bancroft family's circumstances or the reasons Bancroft might have for his decisions, and pretending you do is deeply offensive. Wish Dalton the best of luck, hope for the best for next year's Cornell team, then sit down and shut up.

Oh I certainly have no idea of Bancroft’s family situation. It’s a lot of cash though, so I have to imagine it’s the reason. Bancroft isn’t the first to jump early and he won’t be the last. I am personally indifferent to the success of Cornell players who leave early—I don’t root for them, but don’t root against them either. Anyway, this is unlikely to work out for Bancroft. I can’t remember the last time a Cornell player left early and had a good pro career since Riley, who was a first round pick and stayed three years. (Not counting the players who left during COVID.)

CUDrew0105
Bancroft has signed with the Bruins. He will be assigned to Providence for the remainder of this season before a one-year entry level contract with the Bruins starts next season. Based on a recent conversation I had with one of the seniors, it sounds like it is a good scenario for him to join a team that is rebuilding and might get some play.

That definitely tracks, that he'd want to move to a team where there's a good shot at NHL team even if he's a sub-NHL caliber player. (Which we do not really know yet.) Any word on whether Walsh is joining him?

BearLover

CUDrew0105
Bancroft has signed with the Bruins. He will be assigned to Providence for the remainder of this season before a one-year entry level contract with the Bruins starts next season. Based on a recent conversation I had with one of the seniors, it sounds like it is a good scenario for him to join a team that is rebuilding and might get some play.

I was hoping the silver lining of our season ending in such excruciating fashion was that Bancroft would stay to help his program finally get to a frozen four. I guess he decided he’d rather have a bunch of cash. This is very bad news for our chances next year, hopefully we can add someone from the portal or a CHL overager to replace him (unlikely).

I'm sorry, this is a pathetic response. If you were a 24-year-old offered this contract, would YOU stay in college one extra year? Give me a F__ing break.

scoop85

BearLover

CUDrew0105
Bancroft has signed with the Bruins. He will be assigned to Providence for the remainder of this season before a one-year entry level contract with the Bruins starts next season. Based on a recent conversation I had with one of the seniors, it sounds like it is a good scenario for him to join a team that is rebuilding and might get some play.

I was hoping the silver lining of our season ending in such excruciating fashion was that Bancroft would stay to help his program finally get to a frozen four. I guess he decided he’d rather have a bunch of cash. This is very bad news for our chances next year, hopefully we can add someone from the portal or a CHL overager to replace him (unlikely).

I'm sorry, this is a pathetic response. If you were a 24-year-old offered this contract, would YOU stay in college one extra year? Give me a F__ing break.

Many players every year get offered a similar contract and choose to stay in college. The same contract almost certainly would have been on the table next year if he stayed in school, anyway.

BearLover

scoop85

BearLover

CUDrew0105
Bancroft has signed with the Bruins. He will be assigned to Providence for the remainder of this season before a one-year entry level contract with the Bruins starts next season. Based on a recent conversation I had with one of the seniors, it sounds like it is a good scenario for him to join a team that is rebuilding and might get some play.

I was hoping the silver lining of our season ending in such excruciating fashion was that Bancroft would stay to help his program finally get to a frozen four. I guess he decided he’d rather have a bunch of cash. This is very bad news for our chances next year, hopefully we can add someone from the portal or a CHL overager to replace him (unlikely).

I'm sorry, this is a pathetic response. If you were a 24-year-old offered this contract, would YOU stay in college one extra year? Give me a F__ing break.

Many players every year get offered a similar contract and choose to stay in college. The same contract almost certainly would have been on the table next year if he stayed in school, anyway.

You're being amazingly obtuse and selfish; he's 24 years old!!!

scoop85

BearLover

scoop85

BearLover

CUDrew0105
Bancroft has signed with the Bruins. He will be assigned to Providence for the remainder of this season before a one-year entry level contract with the Bruins starts next season. Based on a recent conversation I had with one of the seniors, it sounds like it is a good scenario for him to join a team that is rebuilding and might get some play.

I was hoping the silver lining of our season ending in such excruciating fashion was that Bancroft would stay to help his program finally get to a frozen four. I guess he decided he’d rather have a bunch of cash. This is very bad news for our chances next year, hopefully we can add someone from the portal or a CHL overager to replace him (unlikely).

I'm sorry, this is a pathetic response. If you were a 24-year-old offered this contract, would YOU stay in college one extra year? Give me a F__ing break.

Many players every year get offered a similar contract and choose to stay in college. The same contract almost certainly would have been on the table next year if he stayed in school, anyway.

You're being amazingly obtuse and selfish; he's 24 years old!!!

Also, it's hockey. He blows an ACL and that's that as a 24 year old non-prospect.

scoop85

BearLover

scoop85

BearLover

CUDrew0105
Bancroft has signed with the Bruins. He will be assigned to Providence for the remainder of this season before a one-year entry level contract with the Bruins starts next season. Based on a recent conversation I had with one of the seniors, it sounds like it is a good scenario for him to join a team that is rebuilding and might get some play.

I was hoping the silver lining of our season ending in such excruciating fashion was that Bancroft would stay to help his program finally get to a frozen four. I guess he decided he’d rather have a bunch of cash. This is very bad news for our chances next year, hopefully we can add someone from the portal or a CHL overager to replace him (unlikely).

I'm sorry, this is a pathetic response. If you were a 24-year-old offered this contract, would YOU stay in college one extra year? Give me a F__ing break.

Many players every year get offered a similar contract and choose to stay in college. The same contract almost certainly would have been on the table next year if he stayed in school, anyway.

You're being amazingly obtuse and selfish; he's 24 years old!!!

I’m confused. I root for Cornell hockey, not for the Boston Bruins. As I said, I was hopeful the ending to this season would have motivated Bancroft to stay. Particularly given it is an extreme long-shot he makes the NHL and because it is highly likely the same contract will be available to him next year. He took the cash. I didn’t say I faulted him for it, I just said the situation absolutely sucks for the team I root for. Also, I don’t know the terms of this contract, is the money guaranteed if he spends the year in the AHL?

congratulations to bancroft! i wish he could play another year at cornell but probably not nearly as much as he does. i trust that he's thought this through and made the right decision. wishing him nothing but the best of luck!

I’m a lacrosse guy now anyway.

BearLover

CUDrew0105
Bancroft has signed with the Bruins. He will be assigned to Providence for the remainder of this season before a one-year entry level contract with the Bruins starts next season. Based on a recent conversation I had with one of the seniors, it sounds like it is a good scenario for him to join a team that is rebuilding and might get some play.

I was hoping the silver lining of our season ending in such excruciating fashion was that Bancroft would stay to help his program finally get to a frozen four. I guess he decided he’d rather have a bunch of cash. This is very bad news for our chances next year, hopefully we can add someone from the portal or a CHL overager to replace him (unlikely).

Look on the bright side, Brian. You now have more content for your course on the Psychology of Pessimism. Please let us know when the Podcasts drop.

Bearlover,

I think that your negative comment about Bancroft was probably made impulsively and a bit irrationally. For his or his parents' sake, would you consider editing it or deleting it entirely?

He's given so much to Cornell hockey: been a super-valuable and exciting team player with a real zest for the game. Personally, I'll never forget his hat trick at MSG.

I'm sure you wish him the very best at the Bruins, as we all do.

Beeeej

BearLover

CUDrew0105
Bancroft has signed with the Bruins. He will be assigned to Providence for the remainder of this season before a one-year entry level contract with the Bruins starts next season. Based on a recent conversation I had with one of the seniors, it sounds like it is a good scenario for him to join a team that is rebuilding and might get some play.

I was hoping the silver lining of our season ending in such excruciating fashion was that Bancroft would stay to help his program finally get to a frozen four. I guess he decided he’d rather have a bunch of cash. This is very bad news for our chances next year, hopefully we can add someone from the portal or a CHL overager to replace him (unlikely).

I'm sure he thought of your specific personal anguish with glee as he inked the contract.

I usually stay silent about your bullshit, BL, but now you're just being an irredeemable asshole. You know nothing of the Bancroft family's circumstances or the reasons Bancroft might have for his decisions, and pretending you do is deeply offensive. Wish Dalton the best of luck, hope for the best for next year's Cornell team, then sit down and shut up.

Thanks for writing this. First sentence is simply exquisite.

Snowball
Bearlover,

I think that your negative comment about Bancroft was probably made impulsively and a bit irrationally. For his or his parents' sake, would you consider editing it or deleting it entirely?

He's given so much to Cornell hockey: been a super-valuable and exciting team player with a real zest for the game. Personally, I'll never forget his hat trick at MSG.

I'm sure you wish him the very best at the Bruins, as we all do.

Umm, does Dalton or his family read this forum? Should we not be criticizing players here? A lot of people other than me were very critical of various parts of the team this year. I’ll delete my post if you feel strongly about it. But for the record, I stand by what I said. Joe Miller of Harvard was drafted by the Leafs and has been Harvard’s best player several years in a row, but is returning for his senior year and was just named captain of the team. I’m sure he had a deal on the table to go pro, but he decided he’d rather finish the job. The fact Bancroft took the money instead is just the reality, it doesn’t make him a bad person or worse than the many other players who did the same thing. But he could have stayed and it’s a shame he didn’t.

BearLover

Snowball
Bearlover,

I think that your negative comment about Bancroft was probably made impulsively and a bit irrationally. For his or his parents' sake, would you consider editing it or deleting it entirely?

He's given so much to Cornell hockey: been a super-valuable and exciting team player with a real zest for the game. Personally, I'll never forget his hat trick at MSG.

I'm sure you wish him the very best at the Bruins, as we all do.

Umm, does Dalton or his family read this forum? Should we not be criticizing players here? A lot of people other than me were very critical of various parts of the team this year. I’ll delete my post if you feel strongly about it. But for the record, I stand by what I said. Joe Miller of Harvard was drafted by the Leafs and has been Harvard’s best player several years in a row, but is returning for his senior year and was just named captain of the team. I’m sure he had a deal on the table to go pro, but he decided he’d rather finish the job. The fact Bancroft took the money instead is just the reality, it doesn’t make him a bad person or worse than the many other players who did the same thing. But he could have stayed and it’s a shame he didn’t.

Could we agree that critiques of player's play is totally valid? The personal stuff, I have to say a hard no. A lot of people read this forum.

I do hope you will delete or modify that post, as a mom I imagine reading that about my son. Ouch.

Rego has also signed with Ontario

Rego to the LAK organization.

BearLover

CUDrew0105
Bancroft has signed with the Bruins. He will be assigned to Providence for the remainder of this season before a one-year entry level contract with the Bruins starts next season. Based on a recent conversation I had with one of the seniors, it sounds like it is a good scenario for him to join a team that is rebuilding and might get some play.

XO

To answer the question above, I did not ask about Walsh in my conversation (mainly because I felt like I wasn't supposed to know about Bancroft in the first place since this conversation happened before today's announcement).

CUDrew0105
To answer the question above, I did not ask about Walsh in my conversation (mainly because I felt like I wasn't supposed to know about Bancroft in the first place since this conversation happened before today's announcement).

Copy!! No worries

BearLover

Beeeej

BearLover

CUDrew0105
Bancroft has signed with the Bruins. He will be assigned to Providence for the remainder of this season before a one-year entry level contract with the Bruins starts next season. Based on a recent conversation I had with one of the seniors, it sounds like it is a good scenario for him to join a team that is rebuilding and might get some play.

I was hoping the silver lining of our season ending in such excruciating fashion was that Bancroft would stay to help his program finally get to a frozen four. I guess he decided he’d rather have a bunch of cash. This is very bad news for our chances next year, hopefully we can add someone from the portal or a CHL overager to replace him (unlikely).

I'm sure he thought of your specific personal anguish with glee as he inked the contract.

I usually stay silent about your bullshit, BL, but now you're just being an irredeemable asshole. You know nothing of the Bancroft family's circumstances or the reasons Bancroft might have for his decisions, and pretending you do is deeply offensive. Wish Dalton the best of luck, hope for the best for next year's Cornell team, then sit down and shut up.

Oh I certainly have no idea of Bancroft’s family situation. It’s a lot of cash though, so I have to imagine it’s the reason. Bancroft isn’t the first to jump early and he won’t be the last. I am personally indifferent to the success of Cornell players who leave early—I don’t root for them, but don’t root against them either. Anyway, this is unlikely to work out for Bancroft. I can’t remember the last time a Cornell player left early and had a good pro career since Riley, who was a first round pick and stayed three years. (Not counting the players who left during COVID.)

I root for them because if they do well it will help the schools reputation and recruiting. At least it should.

Bancroft was in a pickle due to his age.

He gets a small bonus most likely like 50K and a salary of like 75K or so.

But he also had he come back might have gotten a different deal completely. Could have been better or worse.

And a new coach

upprdeck
Bancroft was in a pickle due to his age.

He gets a small bonus most likely like 50K and a salary of like 75K or so.

But he also had he come back might have gotten a different deal completely. Could have been better or worse.

He's getting a signing bonus of $97,500 and a minors salary of $85,000. Plus, if he makes the NHL, his base salary there is $852,500. And a nice performance bonus of $25,000 for 5 NHL GP. So even if he "only" plays 5 games at the NHL level, he's making over $200,000 on the year. Puckpedia, source. (Will be putting it on CapSized as soon as we get an NHL ID for him.)

That's money that's hard to refuse.

stereax

upprdeck
Bancroft was in a pickle due to his age.

He gets a small bonus most likely like 50K and a salary of like 75K or so.

But he also had he come back might have gotten a different deal completely. Could have been better or worse.

He's getting a signing bonus of $97,500 and a minors salary of $85,000. Plus, if he makes the NHL, his base salary there is $852,500. And a nice performance bonus of $25,000 for 5 NHL GP. So even if he "only" plays 5 games at the NHL level, he's making over $200,000 on the year. Puckpedia, source. (Will be putting it on CapSized as soon as we get an NHL ID for him.)

That's money that's hard to refuse.

Signing bonus + minors salary = $182,5000, so $136,753 after taxes. Sigh.
He's a Cornell student, so he's probably acquainted with the misery of taxes.

Good luck in the NHL Dalton!

Surprised no team has taken a flyer on Ondrej.

arugula
Surprised no team has taken a flyer on Ondrej.

Someone's going to pick him up, there has been a lot of interest in him.

Can’t teach 6’6”. In addition to his many good attributes.

arugula
Surprised no team has taken a flyer on Ondrej.

If it is NJ, as I recall there was interest there, both Utica (AHL) and Adirondack (ECHL, though I'd suspect he'd go to AHL first) aren't in their respective playoffs, and both teams are pretty miserable. Likely enough, in that case, that he'd finish the year at Cornell and sign in the summer. Plus, iirc from his Daily Sun article, his family put a strong emphasis on academics.

Snowball

arugula
Surprised no team has taken a flyer on Ondrej.

Someone's going to pick him up, there has been a lot of interest in him.

He might be more interested in European leagues, considering the state of our country and it's immigration policy. He's likely on a student visa. Who knows what hoops he has to jump through (especially at 6'6"!!)

The Rancor

Snowball

arugula
Surprised no team has taken a flyer on Ondrej.

Someone's going to pick him up, there has been a lot of interest in him.

He might be more interested in European leagues, considering the state of our country and it's immigration policy. He's likely on a student visa. Who knows what hoops he has to jump through (especially at 6'6"!!)

I forgot the student visa angle of it. Also a factor for sure. Though I'd be mildly surprised if he goes back to Europe. As we've talked about, you can't teach 6'6" (plus he's also pretty good at the whole hockey thing) and it's likely enough that one or more NHL teams will want to take a flyer on him. (Y'all already know who I want that to be, lol.) With an ELC similar to Bancroft's, he could be in the $150K a year range without playing a single NHL game - that's likely much more than he can get in Europe. Plus, the "boom" of the NHL - if he can secure a stable roster spot, it could be worth millions of dollars. Additionally, if it "doesn't work out" in North America and he tops out in the minor leagues, it's easier to go back to Europe to be a star there than it is to go from Europe to America.

I'd also note that Czechia's also got a tumultous political climate, if we want to go there, though I'd suspect that's not his number one priority, lol.

stereax

The Rancor

Snowball

arugula
Surprised no team has taken a flyer on Ondrej.

Someone's going to pick him up, there has been a lot of interest in him.

He might be more interested in European leagues, considering the state of our country and it's immigration policy. He's likely on a student visa. Who knows what hoops he has to jump through (especially at 6'6"!!)

I forgot the student visa angle of it. Also a factor for sure. Though I'd be mildly surprised if he goes back to Europe. As we've talked about, you can't teach 6'6" (plus he's also pretty good at the whole hockey thing) and it's likely enough that one or more NHL teams will want to take a flyer on him. (Y'all already know who I want that to be, lol.) With an ELC similar to Bancroft's, he could be in the $150K a year range without playing a single NHL game - that's likely much more than he can get in Europe. Plus, the "boom" of the NHL - if he can secure a stable roster spot, it could be worth millions of dollars. Additionally, if it "doesn't work out" in North America and he tops out in the minor leagues, it's easier to go back to Europe to be a star there than it is to go from Europe to America.

I'd also note that Czechia's also got a tumultous political climate, if we want to go there, though I'd suspect that's not his number one priority, lol.

Wouldn't the most sensible thing be to join a Canadian NHL team?

(Except for Canada's tariffs on U.S.-produced goods, there wouldn't be much else standing in the way.)

Swampy

stereax

The Rancor

Snowball

arugula
Surprised no team has taken a flyer on Ondrej.

Someone's going to pick him up, there has been a lot of interest in him.

He might be more interested in European leagues, considering the state of our country and it's immigration policy. He's likely on a student visa. Who knows what hoops he has to jump through (especially at 6'6"!!)

I forgot the student visa angle of it. Also a factor for sure. Though I'd be mildly surprised if he goes back to Europe. As we've talked about, you can't teach 6'6" (plus he's also pretty good at the whole hockey thing) and it's likely enough that one or more NHL teams will want to take a flyer on him. (Y'all already know who I want that to be, lol.) With an ELC similar to Bancroft's, he could be in the $150K a year range without playing a single NHL game - that's likely much more than he can get in Europe. Plus, the "boom" of the NHL - if he can secure a stable roster spot, it could be worth millions of dollars. Additionally, if it "doesn't work out" in North America and he tops out in the minor leagues, it's easier to go back to Europe to be a star there than it is to go from Europe to America.

I'd also note that Czechia's also got a tumultous political climate, if we want to go there, though I'd suspect that's not his number one priority, lol.

Wouldn't the most sensible thing be to join a Canadian NHL team?

(Except for Canada's tariffs on U.S.-produced goods, there wouldn't be much else standing in the way.)

Crossing the border to play US teams?

Swampy

stereax

The Rancor

Snowball

arugula
Surprised no team has taken a flyer on Ondrej.

Someone's going to pick him up, there has been a lot of interest in him.

He might be more interested in European leagues, considering the state of our country and it's immigration policy. He's likely on a student visa. Who knows what hoops he has to jump through (especially at 6'6"!!)

I forgot the student visa angle of it. Also a factor for sure. Though I'd be mildly surprised if he goes back to Europe. As we've talked about, you can't teach 6'6" (plus he's also pretty good at the whole hockey thing) and it's likely enough that one or more NHL teams will want to take a flyer on him. (Y'all already know who I want that to be, lol.) With an ELC similar to Bancroft's, he could be in the $150K a year range without playing a single NHL game - that's likely much more than he can get in Europe. Plus, the "boom" of the NHL - if he can secure a stable roster spot, it could be worth millions of dollars. Additionally, if it "doesn't work out" in North America and he tops out in the minor leagues, it's easier to go back to Europe to be a star there than it is to go from Europe to America.

I'd also note that Czechia's also got a tumultous political climate, if we want to go there, though I'd suspect that's not his number one priority, lol.

Wouldn't the most sensible thing be to join a Canadian NHL team?

(Except for Canada's tariffs on U.S.-produced goods, there wouldn't be much else standing in the way.)

And the Canadian tax rates and price levels. And the fact that he'd be spending significant time in the US anyway. If he is upset enough with the American political climate that he doesn't want to stay here (which is quite unlikely - hockey players skew conservative, and those that don't won't often "make a stand" like that, especially leaving significant money on the table), he would most likely go back to Czechia. That being said, even if the end goal is Czechia, he'd likely be better-served playing in the American minors for a year or few anyway to have a body of work at the pro level that will get him a large ("star" level) contract in Europe. Right now, he doesn't have that.

Kempf to the Eagles (Avs AHL team). O'Leary following Shane to Norfolk.

From Big Red Hockey (@hockey_cornell_):

Big Red games to watch:

Tim Rego and the Swamp Rabbits take on the Icemen at 7
Michael Suda and the Ghost Pirates take on the Everglades at 7:30
Ian Shane and the Admirals take on the Heartlanders at 8
Dalton Bancroft and the Bruins take on the Checkers at 7:05
Jack O’Leary is set to make his pro debut tonight for the Admirals!! Tune in at 8 pm!

Only Penney and Psenicka remain.

stereax
Kempf to the Eagles (Avs AHL team). O'Leary following Shane to Norfolk.

Avs love them some Cornell defensemen.