2025-02-01 at Clarkson

Trotsky

stereax
SEVEN GOALS PER GAME???

Yup.

Wow...

stereax
Christ almighty...

Now show her the PIM...

Ping

Trotsky

stereax
Christ almighty...

Now show her the PIM...

Haha no I know a lot of games were goonfests at that time...

Novel concept-PP with shots on net

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Novel concept-PP with shots on net

We can do that?

stereax

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Novel concept-PP with shots on net

We can do that?

Not enough

PP has been good tonight, just no love.

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stereax

fastforward
Novel concept-PP with shots on net

We can do that?

Not enough

I think we should get the women's team to drill the men about the powerplay until they get it through their head that they're allowed to have a decent one. Just a suggestion...

Pretty moves by Mack.

Sloppy passing

Both teams with some heedless but fun end to end. Somebody is going to make a dumb mistake.

Trotsky
Both teams with some heedless but fun end to end. Somebody is going to make a dumb mistake.

What we call a "track meet". Away from my screen rn, are we still tied?

Yes, still 3-3.

Sweet, okay. Sounded like a goal from where I was.

Grrrrrrrrr

Crap call considering what’s gone uncalled prior.

Now would be a really nice time for a slapshot from the point, blocked, turned to a breakaway and a shorty.

J.F. is… not svelte.

Wow, where do I get a Richardson? That was great.

Hope Walsh is ok.

Trotsky
Wow, where do I get a Richardson? That was great.

PC Richard and Sons?

Trotsky
Hope Walsh is ok.

Shit, shit, shit

Did we just have three D out there on that face off?

FFS

Trotsky
FFS

The discipline

Dumb retaliation by Bancroft but somehow avoids getting penalized.

Let's take the cheese.

I thought they could onlly give 5 on a review?

And now they’re going to review for…a major on Bancroft? It was idiotic but seemed like a minor roughing call at best.

sah67
Did we just have three D out there on that face off?

We are playing 10 D tonight, so...

That's gotta be a major.

stereax

sah67
Did we just have three D out there on that face off?

We are playing 10 D tonight, so...

Rego just trying to pad his faceoff stats.

OK, fucking win it.

sah67

stereax

sah67
Did we just have three D out there on that face off?

We are playing 10 D tonight, so...

Rego just trying to pad his faceoff stats.

Insert the guy tapping on his head and smirking gif here.

Castagna never does anything. Only 2 offensive zone faceoff wins in the last 30 seconds.

Trotsky
Castagna never does anything. Only 2 offensive zone faceoff wins in the last 30 seconds.

Scrub. Demote him to the practice squad. Rayhill clears.

DJ was just waiting for his chance! Gotta spin some metal!

It’s deranged. Two bands in the house.

The 3 D taking a faceoff in OT had to have been a mistake, that’s why Stanley was arguing.

Suda’s shootout streak ends on a poke check.

2 point weekend. I'll take it.

“Cornell thinks they won it.” Clarkson announcer guy really paying attention.

Announcer:
Cornell thinks they won

We think, therefore we did...

Trotsky
2 point weekend. I'll take it.

2 is fine given the everything going on. Not ideal, but it is what it is. Get healthy, get unsuspended, and get back to it.

Not that 3x3 OT is ever my cup of tea, but that one was particularly putrid.

Trotsky
2 point weekend. I'll take it.

Not a good result for getting the bye particularly because Clarkson also got a point.

It’s promising that Shane has started to play well.

I guess we’re never getting Devlin and Wallace back?

Touching interview at the very end with the Clarkson captain who showed a ton of class and spoke really well. Even after he taunted the Cornell bench after scoring in the shootout.

In a game I am sure very few of you care about, Dartmouth loses to Princeton and Cornell stays in the Ivy title race.

BearLover

Trotsky
2 point weekend. I'll take it.

Not a good result for getting the bye particularly because Clarkson also got a point.

Bud, at this point I think we're all kinda in the understanding that we're probably not getting a bye and it is what it is. If we do, swell, but it's not terribly likely.

Trotsky
In a game I am sure very few of you care about, Dartmouth loses to Princeton and Cornell stays in the Ivy title race.

GOOD. Fuck em. Are they also running frankenlines like we are?

stereax

Trotsky
In a game I am sure very few of you care about, Dartmouth loses to Princeton and Cornell stays in the Ivy title race.

GOOD. Fuck em. Are they also running frankenlines like we are?

It adds perspective that, down their suspensions, Dartmouth was swept, at home.

Trotsky
2 point weekend. I'll take it.

Back when all wins were 2 points and Houle was a player, 2 points in the North Country was a reason for celebration.

stereax

BearLover

Trotsky
2 point weekend. I'll take it.

Not a good result for getting the bye particularly because Clarkson also got a point.

Bud, at this point I think we're all kinda in the understanding that we're probably not getting a bye and it is what it is. If we do, swell, but it's not terribly likely.

The bye is the only material thing we’re playing for at this point in the regular season (I guess other than the Ivy title). So that’s the focus. It’s also not a terribly unrealistic goal given the teams ahead of us have tough remaining schedules. We basically need to pass two of Clarkson, Dartmouth, Union, Colgate.

BearLover
I guess we’re never getting Devlin and Wallace back?

Schafer has been bearish on them returning since their injuries. I think it is probably best to assume they are gone for the season. Even if they are ready for the playoffs they will have missed an entire year of training and development. Even if fit they won't be the best options.

Injuries suck.

Trotsky

BearLover
I guess we’re never getting Devlin and Wallace back?

Schafer has been bearish on them returning since their injuries. I think it is probably best to assume they are gone for the season. Even if the were ready for the playoffs they would have missed an entire year of development.

Injuries suck.

For awhile Schafer had been saying the hope or maybe even expectation was that everyone would be back in January.

BearLover

Trotsky

BearLover
I guess we’re never getting Devlin and Wallace back?

Schafer has been bearish on them returning since their injuries. I think it is probably best to assume they are gone for the season. Even if the were ready for the playoffs they would have missed an entire year of development.

Injuries suck.

For awhile Schafer had been saying the hope or maybe even expectation was that everyone would be back in January.

I don't believe so. The assumptions for some players did slide, from before Christmas to after Christmas to early February. But I swear he has always thrown cold water on Devlin. Wallace I can't say, but I don't remember any encouraging noises.

Trotsky
In a game I am sure very few of you care about, Dartmouth loses to Princeton and Cornell stays in the Ivy title race.

It looks like Dartmouth is 5-2 in Ivy play with games remaining against H,Y,B. Cornell is 4-2-2 with games against Y,B. We basically need H to beat Dartmouth and then we and Dartmouth would be virtually tied.

Trotsky
In a game I am sure very few of you care about, Dartmouth loses to Princeton and Cornell stays in the Ivy title race.

The one game where Thompson doesn't feel like an empty wind tunnel

stereax

BearLover

Trotsky
2 point weekend. I'll take it.

Not a good result for getting the bye particularly because Clarkson also got a point.

Bud, at this point I think we're all kinda in the understanding that we're probably not getting a bye and it is what it is. If we do, swell, but it's not terribly likely.

I wouldn't say that. (I am an optimist.)

The teams tied for third ahead of us are ahead of us by five points. We have eight games left to play...24 possible points. One of those two teams is Union, and we play them twice. The other team tied for third is Dartmouth, and they've played one more game than we have.

I say it's at least 50-50 (remember...optimist here) that we earn the bye.

andyw2100

stereax

BearLover

Trotsky
2 point weekend. I'll take it.

Not a good result for getting the bye particularly because Clarkson also got a point.

Bud, at this point I think we're all kinda in the understanding that we're probably not getting a bye and it is what it is. If we do, swell, but it's not terribly likely.

I wouldn't say that. (I am an optimist.)

The teams tied for third ahead of us are ahead of us by five points. We have eight games left to play...24 possible points. One of those two teams is Union, and we play them twice. The other team tied for third is Dartmouth, and they've played one more game than we have.

I say it's at least 50-50 (remember...optimist here) that we earn the bye.

It’s under 50-50, particularly given how badly we’ve played, but the odds aren’t horrible. Union and Clarkson have difficult remaining schedules and Dartmouth has played an extra game. Most of the teams ahead of us have to play each other (and us) several times.

o fer the weekend on the PP and the breakaways. the difference between 6 and 2 pts

sah67
“Cornell thinks they won it.” Clarkson announcer guy really paying attention.

Um, maybe he's been been blinded by the light of his color guy's jacket.

This pattern harks back to the tartan slacks (more red black brown than green, tho) worn with leather jackets by NHL players in the '70s and in Slapshot.

Mom is no longer helping him dress. I hope to God this is not a Clarkson reunion year blazer. It would be okay as the lining.

upprdeck
o fer the weekend on the PP and the breakaways. the difference between 6 and 2 pts

Cornell PP (10.9%) is third worst in the country.

Trotsky

stereax

Trotsky
In a game I am sure very few of you care about, Dartmouth loses to Princeton and Cornell stays in the Ivy title race.

GOOD. Fuck em. Are they also running frankenlines like we are?

It adds perspective that, down their suspensions, Dartmouth was swept, at home.

HAH. Again. Fuck em, I say

stereax

Trotsky

stereax

Trotsky
In a game I am sure very few of you care about, Dartmouth loses to Princeton and Cornell stays in the Ivy title race.

GOOD. Fuck em. Are they also running frankenlines like we are?

It adds perspective that, down their suspensions, Dartmouth was swept, at home.

HAH. Again. Fuck em, I say

That's the spirit!

ACM
Line chart

Was Murray injured against at. Lawrence?

Trotsky
I thought they could onlly give 5 on a review?

I just looked for this again. The rule changed before the season started. I thought they could call a minor on video review if not called on the ice but what this says is that the refs can wipe out a major penalty or downgrade a major to a minor. I don't read this as stating that a minor can be called on video review if no penalty was called on the ice - but that is what I thought some articles had said in September. It also seems that the officials can wipe out a major but not a minor.

NCAA
When using video replay, officials will have the ability to review a major penalty and downgrade it to a minor penalty or no penalty. Officials can add to a major penalty during the review (game misconduct or disqualification).

The off season changes.

stereax

Trotsky
Castagna never does anything.

Never.

I really upset you guys. Sorry.

Trotsky
Castagna never does anything. Only 2 offensive zone faceoff wins in the last 30 seconds.

I’m apparently living rent free in your head. I’ll remember to never criticize any Cornell player ever again. JC has two non empty goals this year. Nominate him for the hobey baker.

Please also note, I said at the beginning that JC is good on face offs.

billhoward

sah67
“Cornell thinks they won it.” Clarkson announcer guy really paying attention.

Um, maybe he's been been blinded by the light of his color guy's jacket.

This pattern harks back to the tartan slacks (more red black brown than green, tho) worn with leather jackets by NHL players in the '70s and in Slapshot.

Mom is no longer helping him dress. I hope to God this is not a Clarkson reunion year blazer. It would be okay as the lining.

Every Canadian who makes it to the booth thinks they're Don Cherry.

arugula

Trotsky
Castagna never does anything. Only 2 offensive zone faceoff wins in the last 30 seconds.

I’m apparently living rent free in your head.

You said a dumb thing one would expect on reddit. This is not, or at least was not, the place for that kind of lofo effort.

Be better.

RichH

billhoward

sah67
“Cornell thinks they won it.” Clarkson announcer guy really paying attention.

Um, maybe he's been been blinded by the light of his color guy's jacket.

This pattern harks back to the tartan slacks (more red black brown than green, tho) worn with leather jackets by NHL players in the '70s and in Slapshot.

Mom is no longer helping him dress. I hope to God this is not a Clarkson reunion year blazer. It would be okay as the lining.

Every Canadian who makes it to the booth thinks they're Don Cherry.

I was thinking Lindsey Nelson.

Trotsky

arugula

Trotsky
Castagna never does anything. Only 2 offensive zone faceoff wins in the last 30 seconds.

I’m apparently living rent free in your head.

You said a dumb thing one would expect on reddit. This is not, or at least was not, the place for that kind of lofo effort.

Be better.

He said a totally reasonable thing, and moreover it was his own opinion on an internet hockey forum. Who cares?

BearLover
Who cares?

Yes, arguing with a fool is not worth further keystr

Trotsky

BearLover
Who cares?

Yes, arguing with a fool is not worth further keystr

Weren’t you the guy in the other chat lecturing people to behave themselves?

Trotsky

arugula

Trotsky
Castagna never does anything. Only 2 offensive zone faceoff wins in the last 30 seconds.

I’m apparently living rent free in your head.

You said a dumb thing one would expect on reddit. This is not, or at least was not, the place for that kind of lofo effort.

Be better.

What are you my mother? Be better? I offered an opinion about a seemingly underperforming hockey player which seems to have really bothered you.

Last time you slandered me because I deigned to defend urban living. Next time I suspect you’ll argue with me when I suggest that the sky is blue.

JC has two goals. Never mind. All Cornell players are all-stars.

Trotsky

BearLover
Who cares?

Yes, arguing with a fool is not worth further keystr

A poster on a hockey forum called the most talented and highest drafted player on the team a disappointment because that player has scored two goals the whole season and is averaging under half a point per game and now you’re calling the poster names lol

Castagna has outstanding hockey sense and he is only 19. There are things that don't show up as stats.

ice
Castagna has outstanding hockey sense and he is only 19. There are things that don't show up as stats.

For sure. Lots of upside. But I’m not sure why saying that a scorer not scoring is disappointing struck a nerve or is controversial. A team full of guys with outstanding hockey sense who never score won’t cut it.

I’m pretty sure if you asked Castagna himself, he’d tell you this has been a really tough year and that he isn’t happy with his own play. He’d probably agree with arugula that his season has been a colossal disappointment. The extreme visceral reaction on this forum whenever anybody says something negative about the team is getting weird at this point. arugula’s post was obviously premised on Castagna being supremely talented and capable of much more. Which is true, and which is why his lack of production has been shocking.

BearLover
I’m pretty sure if you asked Castagna himself, he’d tell you this has been a really tough year and that he isn’t happy with his own play. He’d probably agree with arugula that his season has been a colossal disappointment. The extreme visceral reaction on this forum whenever anybody says something negative about the team is getting weird at this point. arugula’s post was obviously premised on Castagna being supremely talented and capable of much more. Which is true, and which is why his lack of production has been shocking.

I think part of the counterargument, though, is that Castagna, as one of the players expected to be the best on the team, gets matched to much harder competition than others on the team. At this point, though, I'm mostly just considering the entire regular season a bit of a wash and hoping we get hot down the stretch and into the playoffs. Everyone's injured, sick, suspended, or some combination of the three, and it's difficult to accurately judge a team when so much is going on behind the scenes that we're not even aware about. Hopefully Castagna kicks it up a notch for the playoffs.

Curious to know what people in this forum think about the 2 Friday night suspended guys being responsible for 4 of the 7 points in total on Saturday - Stanley with the 1st goal and O'Leary with an assist on all 3 goals.


Should strategic suspensions be a part of Cornell's game plans??!?

Snowball
Curious to know what people in this forum think about the 2 Friday night suspended guys being responsible for 4 of the 7 points in total on Saturday - Stanley with the 1st goal and O'Leary with an assist on all 3 goals.


Should strategic suspensions be a part of Cornell's game plans??!?

Haha-a definite no for me
Perhaps the extra days rest and/or the wrath of Schaf spurred them

adamw

BearLover
On the Clarkson Hockey Roundtable (thanks ugarte for reminding me as to the existence of this website), the posters have been celebrating Casey’s departure and are very optimistic about their new coach. While Casey was there they consistently called for his firing. The posters criticize Casey for “dump and chase hockey” and are thrilled with their new coach’s “possession” style. They also still blame Casey for the losses this season, under the logic that the new coach inherited his players.

The “dump and chase” criticism is pretty funny. Casey certainly understands dump and chase hockey is not a high percentage play, and I’m sure his teams were doing it out of necessity rather than as a strategy. But the posters are under the impression dump and chase was Casey’s preferred style.

Casey had more success at Clarkson than any coach there since the '90s, when the landscape was VASTLY different. There are no shortage of delusional, ignorant fans on any team's message board/thread. Clarkson will be lucky to have a program in 5 years.

News of this post has made its way over to the Clarkson Hockey Roundtable…

Snowball
Curious to know what people in this forum think about the 2 Friday night suspended guys being responsible for 4 of the 7 points in total on Saturday - Stanley with the 1st goal and O'Leary with an assist on all 3 goals.

I think we could have used them Friday.

Well definitely we could have used them Friday.

I was thinking more in terms of motivation. Remember when Schaf took Ben Berard out of the line-up for a Friday game and then Berard scored a hat trick the next night:

[cornellbigred.com]

Snowball
Well definitely we could have used them Friday.

I was thinking more in terms of motivation. Remember when Schaf took Ben Berard out of the line-up for a Friday game and then Berard scored a hat trick the next night:

[cornellbigred.com]

For sure. I think the cocktail of fight + suspension + getting kicked in the nuts by SLU will do that.

No. Not the brawl, not losing to StL, not anything, is going to inspire this team to turn its season around. There have been countless impetuses to do that already, and it has never happened. Clearly it’s not lack of inspiration or desire to win that explains the lack of results. It’s talent, coaching, and execution that is going to determine whether this team can turn things around. The brawl did nothing for this team other than cost them at least one game this past weekend.

Ouch

Snowball
Ouch

Sorry, that was overly harsh. I just don’t see it happening. If losing the last game of first semester to Colgate or losing 4-0 to ASU or losing to Sacred Heart didn’t light a fire, nothing is going to. I also don’t buy the premise that a fire needs to be lit in the first place.

No worries. Though it's usually only my father-on-law who can be so pessimistic:

Father-in-law: Don't you think we are leaving a terrible, horrible world for your kids?
Me: No, cancer will be cured in their lifetime

Bearlover, you be you, I'll continue to be Pollyanna:
- get more players back,
- get the powerplay going,
- Shane continues excellent play...

Ergo: ECAC tournament, Great end of season.

Trotsky

Snowball
Curious to know what people in this forum think about the 2 Friday night suspended guys being responsible for 4 of the 7 points in total on Saturday - Stanley with the 1st goal and O'Leary with an assist on all 3 goals.

I think we could have used them Friday.

I added the AI enhancer and it suggested: Make no changes to the Trotsky typeface. Sarcasm Font came through as DataClass|Implied.

Snowball
No worries. Though it's usually only my father-on-law who can be so pessimistic:

Father-in-law: Don't you think we are leaving a terrible, horrible world for your kids?
Me: No, cancer will be cured in their lifetime

Bearlover, you be you, I'll continue to be Pollyanna:
- get more players back,
- get the powerplay going,
- Shane continues excellent play...

Ergo: ECAC tournament, Great end of season.

Oh, I don’t really disagree that we may well improve and go on a run, but I don’t think it will be because a brawl or loss lit a fire under the team.

Got it.

Let's Go Red!

Snowball

I was thinking more in terms of motivation. Remember when Schaf took Ben Berard out of the line-up for a Friday game and then Berard scored a hat trick the next night:

I have seen this go the other way though too. In 2012-13 (our most recent disappointing regular season?) after a Friday OT loss to top ten ranked Yale, Schafer benched leading scorer Greg Miller and they went out and played a lifeless 3-0 game in a home loss against Brown. It was one time where I was furious at a Schafer decision.

VIEWfromK

Snowball

I was thinking more in terms of motivation. Remember when Schaf took Ben Berard out of the line-up for a Friday game and then Berard scored a hat trick the next night:

I have seen this go the other way though too. In 2012-13 (our most recent disappointing regular season?) after a Friday OT loss to top ten ranked Yale, Schafer benched leading scorer Greg Miller and they went out and played a lifeless 3-0 game in a home loss against Brown. It was one time where I was furious at a Schafer decision.

I've forgotten a lot about that season for good reason. That was the start of some mediocre years that didn't really end until some better players emerged (Angello, Vanderlaan, Kaldis, etc.) along with the shift in playing style.

adamw

BearLover

scoop85

Trotsky

adamw
Clarkson will be lucky to have a program in 5 years.

I assume because D-3 in other sports? I sure hope not. Denver, CC, NoDak and others in the same boat IINM.

Denver and NoDak are D1 across the board

But, very relevantly, mid-major in football and basketball, so their athletic departments don’t have excess revenue to throw around for “revenue sharing.”

They have the exact opposite issue to what you believe. Denver doesn't even have a football program - which is a positive. They may have less revenue, but it also means they don't need to throw $20 million in revenue sharing at it. Listen to my recent podcast with Denver AD Josh Berlo.

Denver will have just as much money as any Big Ten school to devote to paying hockey players. Michigan, for example, is capped at $22 million to spend. How much of that will go to hockey? More than likely, less than what Denver will spend.

Given that NoDak has opted out of the NCAA settlement, I think it’s pretty safe to assume that any upsides of the settlement for non-power 5 schools will barely, or not at all, offset the downsides. We’ll see what schools like BU and Denver do but, again, the issue remains that they don’t have the “revenue” to throw around in general, let alone at hockey. I continue to have a hard time believing NIL and this NCAA settlement will have a significant effect on college hockey. CHL eligibility seems like a far more important factor.

[sports.yahoo.com]

BearLover

adamw

BearLover

scoop85

Trotsky

adamw
Clarkson will be lucky to have a program in 5 years.

I assume because D-3 in other sports? I sure hope not. Denver, CC, NoDak and others in the same boat IINM.

Denver and NoDak are D1 across the board

But, very relevantly, mid-major in football and basketball, so their athletic departments don’t have excess revenue to throw around for “revenue sharing.”

They have the exact opposite issue to what you believe. Denver doesn't even have a football program - which is a positive. They may have less revenue, but it also means they don't need to throw $20 million in revenue sharing at it. Listen to my recent podcast with Denver AD Josh Berlo.

Denver will have just as much money as any Big Ten school to devote to paying hockey players. Michigan, for example, is capped at $22 million to spend. How much of that will go to hockey? More than likely, less than what Denver will spend.

Given that NoDak has opted out of the NCAA settlement, I think it’s pretty safe to assume that any upsides of the settlement for non-power 5 schools will barely, or not at all, offset the downsides. We’ll see what schools like BU and Denver do but, again, the issue remains that they don’t have the “revenue” to throw around in general, let alone at hockey. I continue to have a hard time believing NIL and this NCAA settlement will have a significant effect on college hockey. CHL eligibility seems like a far more important factor.

[sports.yahoo.com]

Opting out of the settlement or not has nothing to do with the amount of money any school has to spend. Schools like North Dakota are not obligated to spend money if they opt in ... And they are restricted from spending money if they opt out.

adamw

BearLover

adamw

BearLover

scoop85

Trotsky

adamw
Clarkson will be lucky to have a program in 5 years.

I assume because D-3 in other sports? I sure hope not. Denver, CC, NoDak and others in the same boat IINM.

Denver and NoDak are D1 across the board

But, very relevantly, mid-major in football and basketball, so their athletic departments don’t have excess revenue to throw around for “revenue sharing.”

They have the exact opposite issue to what you believe. Denver doesn't even have a football program - which is a positive. They may have less revenue, but it also means they don't need to throw $20 million in revenue sharing at it. Listen to my recent podcast with Denver AD Josh Berlo.

Denver will have just as much money as any Big Ten school to devote to paying hockey players. Michigan, for example, is capped at $22 million to spend. How much of that will go to hockey? More than likely, less than what Denver will spend.

Given that NoDak has opted out of the NCAA settlement, I think it’s pretty safe to assume that any upsides of the settlement for non-power 5 schools will barely, or not at all, offset the downsides. We’ll see what schools like BU and Denver do but, again, the issue remains that they don’t have the “revenue” to throw around in general, let alone at hockey. I continue to have a hard time believing NIL and this NCAA settlement will have a significant effect on college hockey. CHL eligibility seems like a far more important factor.

[sports.yahoo.com]

Opting out of the settlement or not has nothing to do with the amount of money any school has to spend. Schools like North Dakota are not obligated to spend money if they opt in ... And they are restricted from spending money if they opt out.

Are you suggesting that not opting into a revenue sharing arrangement has nothing to do with how much revenue exists to be shared?

I’d prefer to not start another flame war. I’m just making the point that if the House settlement were a positive for schools like NoDak, Denver, etc….then these schools would be opting into the settlement, not opting out of it. And it makes sense why these schools would opt out: they have little to no excess revenue to spend, and whatever amount they do have wouldn’t offset costs like roster limits even if they were to spend it.

BearLover

adamw

BearLover

adamw

BearLover

scoop85

Trotsky

adamw
Clarkson will be lucky to have a program in 5 years.

I assume because D-3 in other sports? I sure hope not. Denver, CC, NoDak and others in the same boat IINM.

Denver and NoDak are D1 across the board

But, very relevantly, mid-major in football and basketball, so their athletic departments don’t have excess revenue to throw around for “revenue sharing.”

They have the exact opposite issue to what you believe. Denver doesn't even have a football program - which is a positive. They may have less revenue, but it also means they don't need to throw $20 million in revenue sharing at it. Listen to my recent podcast with Denver AD Josh Berlo.

Denver will have just as much money as any Big Ten school to devote to paying hockey players. Michigan, for example, is capped at $22 million to spend. How much of that will go to hockey? More than likely, less than what Denver will spend.

Given that NoDak has opted out of the NCAA settlement, I think it’s pretty safe to assume that any upsides of the settlement for non-power 5 schools will barely, or not at all, offset the downsides. We’ll see what schools like BU and Denver do but, again, the issue remains that they don’t have the “revenue” to throw around in general, let alone at hockey. I continue to have a hard time believing NIL and this NCAA settlement will have a significant effect on college hockey. CHL eligibility seems like a far more important factor.

[sports.yahoo.com]

Opting out of the settlement or not has nothing to do with the amount of money any school has to spend. Schools like North Dakota are not obligated to spend money if they opt in ... And they are restricted from spending money if they opt out.

Are you suggesting that not opting into a revenue sharing arrangement has nothing to do with how much revenue exists to be shared?

I’d prefer to not start another flame war. I’m just making the point that if the House settlement were a positive for schools like NoDak, Denver, etc….then these schools would be opting into the settlement, not opting out of it. And it makes sense why these schools would opt out: they have little to no excess revenue to spend, and whatever amount they do have wouldn’t offset costs like roster limits even if they were to spend it.

Yes - that is what I'm saying. The amount of revenue a school has to spend, has just about zero to do with this decision. Did you read the article you cited yourself?

"The NCAA proclaims student-athletes will receive 'extra benefits' if a university 'opts in,'" Chaves said. "This may be the case for some, but in the aggregate and if you consider the roster limits for all sports, this settlement might actually harm sports and student-athlete participation at UND as well as other student-athletes around the country. Further, if one asks the right questions, you may actually discover that schools such as UND might be supporting student-athletes in a greater way financially than some 'opt-in' schools."

You can also read our new story on the topic.


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Do you understand what opting in means? You are not obligated to revenue share if you opt in -- so why would opting in or not be a decision based upon the amount of revenue you have to share? Schools that don't have massive football programs, have no real incentive to opt-in. They are harming their student athlete population as a whole by doing so. If you opt-in, you have to cut players and you will be doling out fewer overall benefits.

I'll avoid whatever war you want to avoid. But it's up to you whether you want to actually believe or understand the facts you are presented with.