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SHU 1/10-11

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SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Chris '03 (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: January 08, 2025 01:48PM

The band will be in section 121.

Saturday game is at 5 for whatever reason and they are expecting a sellout.

Edit: band moved. And sat is sold out.

 
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/08/2025 03:27PM by Chris '03.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 08, 2025 01:58PM

that league tends to play a bunch of earlier games on Sat. For travel I suspect
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Iceberg (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 08, 2025 04:45PM

Chris '03
The band will be in section 121.

Saturday game is at 5 for whatever reason and they are expecting a sellout.

Edit: band moved. And sat is sold out.

It's a good thing I saw this post. I would've assumed a 7 PM start time. Also, I imagine there will be a heavy Cornell contingent due to the location, similar to what should be the case at Yale next month
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 08, 2025 08:37PM

and people need to buy FLO to watch it as well.


Its not really clear if you cancel the annual plan if they will stop charging you for the year or just not renew it next year.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: BlueSky (50.228.149.---)
Date: January 09, 2025 07:16AM

Going both nights!

Cornell Alumni chapter having a reception at the Sitting Duck Tavern in Trumbull Friday pregame. I'm excited to see the new arena as I hear it is beautiful...albeit small. They are a pesky team and it won't be easy to sweep them out of there. We must score goals. More than we give up. Can we get rolling?
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: dag14 (---.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
Date: January 09, 2025 04:50PM

Note that the annual plan is BILLED ANNUALLY so if you sign up for it and then cancel, you are still on the hook for the entire year.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 09, 2025 09:18PM

the one plan was a lower fee billed every month. But it said you could cancel but not clear on what you got back.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: HeafDog (172.59.214.---)
Date: January 10, 2025 12:56PM

Chris '03
The band will be in section 121.

Saturday game is at 5 for whatever reason and they are expecting a sellout.

Edit: band moved. And sat is sold out.

What section is the visiting fans' section?
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 06:56PM

I have heard this barn is very nice.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: HeafDog (162.120.136.---)
Date: January 10, 2025 06:58PM

Televised?
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 06:59PM

HeafDog
Televised?
Therein lies a tale.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 07:00PM

Well this intro music is certainly a choice.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-235-208.myvzw.com)
Date: January 10, 2025 07:01PM

Wikipedia informs me that Sacred Heart's mascot is "Big Red" the Pioneer.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 07:08PM

Man I thought for a moment that faceoff music was Ramstein, but I should have known better.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 07:11PM

Dafatone
Wikipedia informs me that Sacred Heart's mascot is "Big Red" the Pioneer.
Their red is a ghetto #CE1141.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 07:12PM

So close:

Referees: Matthew Fuller, Christopher Leavitt | Linesmen: Christopher Zito, Christopher Perterkin
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 07:18PM

Sounds like a softy.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-235-208.myvzw.com)
Date: January 10, 2025 07:18PM

It would be swell if we had the puck in the offensive zone and/or didn't give up a goal.

Did they steal our band?
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 07:20PM

Shot attempts 6-0 SHU, SHU pp coming up. This piped in music needs a Second Amendment remedy.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-235-208.myvzw.com)
Date: January 10, 2025 07:22PM

These announcers are mildly annoying. One guy was wearing the worst-fitting jacket I've seen in a while, though.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-235-208.myvzw.com)
Date: January 10, 2025 07:24PM

According to the announcers, half our players are Kyler Kovich.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 07:27PM

Dafatone
According to the announcers, half our players are Kyler Kovich.
Which half?
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-235-208.myvzw.com)
Date: January 10, 2025 07:36PM

To the SHU announcers' credit, they're willing to get a little excited when we score.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 07:43PM

HeafDog
Televised?
on flohockey.tv, which is a subscription but if this helps, it's for all flo channels. i subscribe already for wrestling.

that was one of the worst periods of hockey i've ever seen. fortunately their guy gave up one as soft as the one shane gave up.

 

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/10/2025 07:44PM by ugarte.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-229-75.myvzw.com)
Date: January 10, 2025 07:44PM

So did Shane let in another soft goal? With an at-large bid basically out of reach, these two non-conference games would be the perfect time to get Keoppel or Katz some ice time. It seems like the plan is to give Shane every start this entire season even though he has struggled?
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 07:49PM

Statistically at least we dominated after the SHU goal. Before then they were up 6-0 in shot attempts and 4-0 in SOG. After it, we were 19-4, 9-1.

But I only have audio.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/10/2025 07:51PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Iceberg (172.56.167.---)
Date: January 10, 2025 07:50PM

I thought Shane was screened but it was hard to tell. Not a great period although the second half was better than the first. SHU is tenacious in their zone but they've had guys get sucked into double coverage which has resulted in a few Cornell opportunities. Funny enough, the one goal was just a shot from the boards that Psenicka managed to deflect
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 07:52PM

Iceberg
I thought Shane was screened but it was hard to tell. Not a great period although the second half was better than the first. SHU is tenacious in their zone but they've had guys get sucked into double coverage which has resulted in a few Cornell opportunities. Funny enough, the one goal was just a shot from the boards that Psenicka managed to deflect
IIRC Jason said he thought Shane was screened but on the replay he said probably not it was just a strange doink.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-235-208.myvzw.com)
Date: January 10, 2025 07:57PM

This could be a chippy weekend.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 07:57PM

Quick 5x3 coming up.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 08:05PM

Trotsky
Quick 5x3 coming up.
Bancroft put a nice shot off the pipe stick-side but it's very frustrating to watch them refuse to take the ice the defense gives them as they trace an umbrella. Watching a new power play on a really odd interference call. Looked like Mack blew a tire and it was called by the official farthest from the action.

As for the stats in the first period, the Cornell shot total obscures how awful the first 16 minutes were. The best play of the period was a bit of hero ball from Castagna that didn't get a shot but did force a trip that set up a power play.

 
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-235-208.myvzw.com)
Date: January 10, 2025 08:06PM

Can we decline power plays?
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 08:12PM

Dafatone
Can we decline power plays?
They need to wear rose garters.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 08:14PM

Taking control of draws now. We've taken 8 of the last 10 or so.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 08:27PM

much better period. a lot of possession, a lot of crashing the net. mack is the one guy who is willing to shoot when he's got a B- look and i'd like to see him preach to his teammates. need a little more touch around the net and a bit more passing (and positioning to receive passes) instead of trying to skate through traffic. uncomfortable to go to the third tied but we're clearly establishing ourselves as controlling the run of play but until another one gets behind their goalie...

 
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 08:37PM

CT Ice is such a bad name for the UConn/QU/SHU/Yale tournament. Play for the Nutmeg Grater. Call the MVP the Nutmeg Grinder.

 
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-235-208.myvzw.com)
Date: January 10, 2025 08:44PM

That looked awfully close to an overt dive.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 08:45PM

Sacred Heart has a Tyler, a Reid, a Cole, a Hunter, and an Aiden. Somebody got conceived in 2003.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 08:45PM

Dafatone
That looked awfully close to an overt dive.
dive looked really bad on the replay but it also looked like bancroft got his hands up a little high - coincidental minors would probably have been justified.

 

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/10/2025 08:46PM by ugarte.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 08:47PM

To be fair, they also have an Ajeet.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 08:47PM

end of the shu power play looked really bad for us; shane really earned his scholarship.

 
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 08:48PM

Trotsky
To be fair, they also have an Ajeet.
you have no idea how trendy ajeet was in 2003 on desibaby.net.

 
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 08:50PM

ugarte
Trotsky
To be fair, they also have an Ajeet.
you have no idea how trendy ajeet was in 2003 on desibaby.net.
I'm an Urban Bâby man, myself.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 08:51PM

Two calls? banana
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 08:52PM

Trotsky
Two calls? banana
AND Mack got away with a swinging elbow! Come on Red. Don't waste a full 5x3.

 
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-229-75.myvzw.com)
Date: January 10, 2025 08:53PM

ugarte
Trotsky
Two calls? banana
AND Mack got away with a swinging elbow! Come on Red. Don't waste a full 5x3.
I’ve seen this movie before
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 08:54PM

Penney would be nice here.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 08:56PM

Ping!
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 08:58PM

Rink DJ plays:
"What is Love Bâby Don't Hurt Me" when SHU goes on the kill
"Rude" when they go on the power play
Super Mario power up when they kill a penalty

Meanwhile, Bancroft snapped his stick on a great slapper opportunity and had another swallowed up by the goalie; Walsh banged one off the inside of the glove-side post that on replay seemed inconceivable that it didn't go in. That was about as a good a no-goal 5x3 will look. AND YET

 
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 09:00PM

Just keep coming. -- Ron Jeremy
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-229-75.myvzw.com)
Date: January 10, 2025 09:18PM

Man. The season from hell continues. At least the game didn’t count for anything.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: MattShaf (---.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com)
Date: January 10, 2025 09:24PM

This is really tough to watch. Just no chemistry on any line.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 09:24PM

It's a tight, exciting game. Enjoy the struggle.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: MattShaf (---.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com)
Date: January 10, 2025 09:26PM

Really tough to watch. No chemistry between any of the players or on any of the lines.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-229-75.myvzw.com)
Date: January 10, 2025 09:30PM

MattShaf
Really tough to watch. No chemistry between any of the players or on any of the lines.
It’s amazing how it never improves, at all. I don’t know if people need to be reminded, but Cornell is playing a bad team
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-229-75.myvzw.com)
Date: January 10, 2025 09:32PM

Can we please try Keoppel or Katz tomorrow? The game is meaningless, it makes absolutely no sense to keep running Shane out
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-235-208.myvzw.com)
Date: January 10, 2025 09:33PM

We're running out of runway to hang our hat on "at least we outplayed them" but we outshot them two to one and pretty much controlled play after getting caught with our pants down for the first fifteen minutes.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 09:34PM

Yay. A moral yay.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 09:35PM

BearLover
Can we please try Keoppel or Katz tomorrow? The game is meaningless, it makes absolutely no sense to keep running Shane out
We have no idea what is going on in practice.

Believe it or not the staff is trying to do what is best for the team.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: marty (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: January 10, 2025 09:36PM

BearLover
...?.../quote]

!!!
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-235-208.myvzw.com)
Date: January 10, 2025 09:36PM

The good news is this had almost no impact on our RPI.

The bad news is that our record is meh enough for a road tie against Sacred Heart to have almost no impact on our RPI.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 09:38PM

Trotsky
BearLover
Can we please try Keoppel or Katz tomorrow? The game is meaningless, it makes absolutely no sense to keep running Shane out
We have no idea what is going on in practice.

Believe it or not the staff is trying to do what is best for the team.
goddamn dude nobody doubts this and tbh after a 1-1 tie i don't know that the goalie is who you hang the blame on but if you want to run PR for the coaching staff at least get paid.

 
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 09:38PM

PWR and RPI aren't really in play any more. It's all about Lake Placid. Work hard, get the guys back, build confidence, then take our chance in March.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-229-75.myvzw.com)
Date: January 10, 2025 09:39PM

Trotsky
BearLover
Can we please try Keoppel or Katz tomorrow? The game is meaningless, it makes absolutely no sense to keep running Shane out
We have no idea what is going on in practice.

Believe it or not the staff is trying to do what is best for the team.
It made sense to keep playing Shane so long as the PWR was relevant. It’s no longer relevant. Tomorrow is the least important game Cornell will play until 2025-26. Not playing a backup tomorrow would really just make no sense.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 09:40PM

ugarte
Trotsky
BearLover
Can we please try Keoppel or Katz tomorrow? The game is meaningless, it makes absolutely no sense to keep running Shane out
We have no idea what is going on in practice.

Believe it or not the staff is trying to do what is best for the team.
goddamn dude nobody doubts this and tbh after a 1-1 tie i don't know that the goalie is who you hang the blame on but if you want to run PR for the coaching staff at least get paid.
I am not being an apologist. I am arguing that watching the games just to tally wins is a shitty way to spend your time. If you're not enjoying the game for the game's sake, find some other dick measuring stick.

There's a reason I left. That demo is just so fucking weak.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-235-208.myvzw.com)
Date: January 10, 2025 09:42PM

We have 15 games left. I bet if we go, like, 12-3, we'll be in the running on the pairwise. Since we're close to .500, there's a lot of room for our win% to go up if we win a bunch.

But we have to win a bunch.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 09:42PM

BearLover
Trotsky
BearLover
Can we please try Keoppel or Katz tomorrow? The game is meaningless, it makes absolutely no sense to keep running Shane out
We have no idea what is going on in practice.

Believe it or not the staff is trying to do what is best for the team.
It made sense to keep playing Shane so long as the PWR was relevant. It’s no longer relevant. Tomorrow is the least important game Cornell will play until 2025-26. Not playing a backup tomorrow would really just make no sense.
I think there's probably a reason we aren't. Jones understands we have to get to know what we have in net for next year, and for that matter log minutes in case something happens to Shane. It is blindingly obvious, so unless you believe they're stupid, there is a reason.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 09:44PM

Dafatone
We have 15 games left. I bet if we go, like, 12-3, we'll be in the running on the pairwise. Since we're close to .500, there's a lot of room for our win% to go up if we win a bunch.

But we have to win a bunch.
Mmmmmaybe? I know there's a giant blob of meh from 15-25, but (1) there is no reason to think we are going 12-3 down the stretch, and (2) we're actually outside the blob now.

BearLover is correct saying tomorrow night's game means as little as any non-Exhibition ever could. If we were ever going to suit up Rayhill and put O'Leary in net, it's tomorrow.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/10/2025 09:48PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-235-208.myvzw.com)
Date: January 10, 2025 09:46PM

Trotsky
Dafatone
We have 15 games left. I bet if we go, like, 12-3, we'll be in the running on the pairwise. Since we're close to .500, there's a lot of room for our win% to go up if we win a bunch.

But we have to win a bunch.
Mmmmmaybe? I know there's a giant blob of meh from 15-25, but (1) there is no reason to think we are going 12-3 down the stretch, and (2) we're actually outside the blob now.

Sure. I'm not gonna disagree with anyone who thinks we're not making that run. I just think the math is still there for us to be in it.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 09:47PM

Dafatone
Trotsky
Dafatone
We have 15 games left. I bet if we go, like, 12-3, we'll be in the running on the pairwise. Since we're close to .500, there's a lot of room for our win% to go up if we win a bunch.

But we have to win a bunch.
Mmmmmaybe? I know there's a giant blob of meh from 15-25, but (1) there is no reason to think we are going 12-3 down the stretch, and (2) we're actually outside the blob now.

Sure. I'm not gonna disagree with anyone who thinks we're not making that run. I just think the math is still there for us to be in it.
It may be. Those cusp teams are tighter than I've learned not to say.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 09:48PM

Trotsky
ugarte
Trotsky
BearLover
Can we please try Keoppel or Katz tomorrow? The game is meaningless, it makes absolutely no sense to keep running Shane out
We have no idea what is going on in practice.

Believe it or not the staff is trying to do what is best for the team.
goddamn dude nobody doubts this and tbh after a 1-1 tie i don't know that the goalie is who you hang the blame on but if you want to run PR for the coaching staff at least get paid.
I am not being an apologist. I am arguing that watching the games just to tally wins is a shitty way to spend your time. If you're not enjoying the game for the game's sake, find some other dick measuring stick.

There's a reason I left. That demo is just so fucking weak.
You are not! You are specifically arguing that the coaching decisions are sacrosanct since we only get to see the games. That might be true - for all I know Keopple and Katz look awful and we're lucky that we never see it when it counts - but it's hardly worth stating but for the fact that you're knee-jerk reacting to someone upset about a really bad result. You see it as a dick measuring stick because *you* can't help but respond to every complaint without running interference, kumbaya shit or a complaint about Kids Today.

You *also* want to win the games; you aren't marking time until you die by watching hockey. BearLover's cope is "change something, anything for the sake of change." Your cope is deciding that's beyond the pale. My cope is whatever this is.

 
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: chimpfood (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: January 10, 2025 09:50PM

If we win the next three we’re in the running for an at large by the Harvard/dartmouth series which is what I was hoping for going into break. If we drop even one game we probably just gotta put our heads down, rack up ECAC points for a bye (which we’re not even in position to get at this point), and grind our way to lake placid. The next three being road games gives us a ton of room to move up if we get a streak going.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-235-208.myvzw.com)
Date: January 10, 2025 09:57PM

chimpfood
If we win the next three we’re in the running for an at large by the Harvard/dartmouth series which is what I was hoping for going into break. If we drop even one game we probably just gotta put our heads down, rack up ECAC points for a bye (which we’re not even in position to get at this point), and grind our way to lake placid. The next three being road games gives us a ton of room to move up if we get a streak going.

Take it one game at a time and win the next one.

Because we apparently haven't won a road game yet, so we gotta start somewhere.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 10:07PM

Dafatone
Take it one game at a time
And, the good Lord willing,...
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-229-75.myvzw.com)
Date: January 10, 2025 10:08PM

Trotsky
ugarte
Trotsky
BearLover
Can we please try Keoppel or Katz tomorrow? The game is meaningless, it makes absolutely no sense to keep running Shane out
We have no idea what is going on in practice.

Believe it or not the staff is trying to do what is best for the team.
goddamn dude nobody doubts this and tbh after a 1-1 tie i don't know that the goalie is who you hang the blame on but if you want to run PR for the coaching staff at least get paid.
I am not being an apologist. I am arguing that watching the games just to tally wins is a shitty way to spend your time. If you're not enjoying the game for the game's sake, find some other dick measuring stick.

There's a reason I left. That demo is just so fucking weak.
For what it’s worth, I didn’t watch the game, specifically because of what you said (it’s a shitty way to spend my time).
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: toddlose (---.lightspeed.jcvlfl.sbcglobal.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 10:17PM

BearLover
Trotsky
ugarte
Trotsky
BearLover
Can we please try Keoppel or Katz tomorrow? The game is meaningless, it makes absolutely no sense to keep running Shane out
We have no idea what is going on in practice.

Believe it or not the staff is trying to do what is best for the team.
goddamn dude nobody doubts this and tbh after a 1-1 tie i don't know that the goalie is who you hang the blame on but if you want to run PR for the coaching staff at least get paid.
I am not being an apologist. I am arguing that watching the games just to tally wins is a shitty way to spend your time. If you're not enjoying the game for the game's sake, find some other dick measuring stick.

There's a reason I left. That demo is just so fucking weak.
For what it’s worth, I didn’t watch the game, specifically because of what you said (it’s a shitty way to spend my time).

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/11/2025 05:16AM by toddlose.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 10:25PM

Maybe as a Mets fans I just learned to hope they played hard. And then, if they won, my god what bliss! And if they lost, get 'em next time; except for a countable number of times where I'd have cried myself to sleep if it would do any good.

There is a special circle of hell for bandwagon fans.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/10/2025 10:25PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-229-75.myvzw.com)
Date: January 10, 2025 10:37PM

ugarte
Trotsky
ugarte
Trotsky
BearLover
Can we please try Keoppel or Katz tomorrow? The game is meaningless, it makes absolutely no sense to keep running Shane out
We have no idea what is going on in practice.

Believe it or not the staff is trying to do what is best for the team.
goddamn dude nobody doubts this and tbh after a 1-1 tie i don't know that the goalie is who you hang the blame on but if you want to run PR for the coaching staff at least get paid.
I am not being an apologist. I am arguing that watching the games just to tally wins is a shitty way to spend your time. If you're not enjoying the game for the game's sake, find some other dick measuring stick.

There's a reason I left. That demo is just so fucking weak.
You are not! You are specifically arguing that the coaching decisions are sacrosanct since we only get to see the games. That might be true - for all I know Keopple and Katz look awful and we're lucky that we never see it when it counts - but it's hardly worth stating but for the fact that you're knee-jerk reacting to someone upset about a really bad result. You see it as a dick measuring stick because *you* can't help but respond to every complaint without running interference, kumbaya shit or a complaint about Kids Today.

You *also* want to win the games; you aren't marking time until you die by watching hockey. BearLover's cope is "change something, anything for the sake of change." Your cope is deciding that's beyond the pale. My cope is whatever this is.
The notion that coaching decisions are sacrosanct is just ridiculous. It’s not only Trotsky saying it, it’s adamw and a host of others. The whole team is a disaster, obviously coaching has something to do with it. The notion that we shouldn’t be disappointed is similarly ridiculous. It’s early January in Schafer’s last season and we’ve already resigned ourselves to just playing out the string and praying things break our way in the ECAC tournament! This season sucks! You don’t need to be a pessimist like me to see that. Brutal results upon brutal results, soft goals given up every game, the PP never comes through, the whole team has been out of sync since day one.

And yes my knee-jerk reaction to yet another awful result is to repeat the same crap I say every week, but the apology tour being put on by this forum on behalf of the 2024-25 Cornell men’s ice hockey team is equally tiresome at this point.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/10/2025 10:38PM by BearLover.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Big Dingus (---.tmodns.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 10:51PM

Another game, another poor performance.

Worst part is we will never know what’s going on. Same team as last year and we have the worst season in 10 years. pretty incredible.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2025 11:21PM

Trotsky
Maybe as a Mets fans I just learned to hope they played hard. And then, if they won, my god what bliss! And if they lost, get 'em next time; except for a countable number of times where I'd have cried myself to sleep if it would do any good.

There is a special circle of hell for bandwagon fans.
bandwagon fans stop watching. Nobody here isn't watching (bl's joke aside). in fact, we're watching quite closely.

 
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: fastforward (---.sub-174-206-230.myvzw.com)
Date: January 10, 2025 11:23PM

Good news for tomorrow for those that get SNY-tape delay -it says Sunday ?

Cornell will conclude its non-conference portion of the regular season on Saturday when it returns to Martire Family Arena for a 5 p.m. puck drop against the Pioneers. Game action will be broadcast on FloHockey.tv, and air on SNY on a tape delay at 4 p.m. ET on Sunday. The game will also be carried over the airwaves on WHCU (870 AM, 97.7 FM, cortacatoday.com), featuring Jason Weinstein on play-by-play and Tony Eisenhut '88 providing analysis.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-235-212.myvzw.com)
Date: January 11, 2025 12:47AM

Trotsky
Maybe as a Mets fans I just learned to hope they played hard. And then, if they won, my god what bliss! And if they lost, get 'em next time; except for a countable number of times where I'd have cried myself to sleep if it would do any good.

There is a special circle of hell for bandwagon fans.

Yeah, when you're 8 and you go to Shea and the Mets fire Jeff Torborg mid-game and forget to play Take Me Out to the Ballgame in the chaos, well, it doesn't get worse than that.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: marty (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: January 11, 2025 07:17AM

Did anyone else think that Gundarah, who's listed as 6 feet 180, looked like he was at least 250? Bubble wrap or too many trips to a Tim Horton's?
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: CU2007 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: January 11, 2025 08:08AM

Why is there a shootout in a non-conference, non-tournament game?
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: dbilmes (64.224.255.---)
Date: January 11, 2025 08:17AM

CU2007
Why is there a shootout in a non-conference, non-tournament game?
It was a meaningless shootout. Perhaps the coaches had agreed ahead of time to have one if the game was tied, since apparently we can't just let a game end in a tie (although that's what this game was).
I doubt Suda, who was the only player to score in the shootout, would have been one of Schafer's top choices if a point in the ECAC standings was on the line. I was sitting behind the Cornell bench and you could tell no one on the bench, especially the coaches, was that worked up about it. Schafer wasn't even watching the whole time.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-229-75.myvzw.com)
Date: January 11, 2025 08:31AM

CU2007
Why is there a shootout in a non-conference, non-tournament game?
Related question: why do the Cornell hockey social media pages celebrate like we won the whole game when we win a shootout, even for games like last night and vs Quinnipiac at MSG where the shootout is literally meaningless for the Pairwise or standings? I get they want to hype up the fans, but it’s so misleading. The casual fan sees that stuff and thinks we actually won. Same for the standards and coverage of the team reporting OT wins as normal wins, etc. It really inflates the perception of what has been an extremely mediocre season (5 regulation wins, 4 regulation losses, 4 ties, 1 3x3 overtime win).

It seems to have spilled over to the team and coaches too: Schafer proud of his team after they tie (47th in the PWR) Harvard, proud after they tie Quinnipiac. Schafer happy with the team’s play when they lose 4-0 to ASU. Bancroft in MSG postgame saying “the boys got it done” following a tie. Raucous celebration beating a mediocre team (Colgate) at home in OT. Okay, the last one actually makes sense to do in the moment, but that was a bad Pairwise result and nobody cares to acknowledge that. Reminds me of 2021-22 when we kept beating bad teams in 3x3 OT and our record showed we were like 9-0-1 and then we collapsed in the second half and everyone was like “How?????” Coverage of college hockey needs to treat shootouts as ties and there needs to be a separate column for OT wins and losses.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/11/2025 08:38AM by BearLover.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Iceberg (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 11, 2025 09:32AM

dbilmes
CU2007
Why is there a shootout in a non-conference, non-tournament game?
It was a meaningless shootout. Perhaps the coaches had agreed ahead of time to have one if the game was tied, since apparently we can't just let a game end in a tie (although that's what this game was).
I doubt Suda, who was the only player to score in the shootout, would have been one of Schafer's top choices if a point in the ECAC standings was on the line. I was sitting behind the Cornell bench and you could tell no one on the bench, especially the coaches, was that worked up about it. Schafer wasn't even watching the whole time.

Suda scored in the shootout at Harvard so I'd say he's more than capable. Even Kempf has appeared in shootouts occasionally
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/11/2025 09:32AM by Iceberg.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: CU2007 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: January 11, 2025 10:01AM

BearLover
CU2007
Why is there a shootout in a non-conference, non-tournament game?
Related question: why do the Cornell hockey social media pages celebrate like we won the whole game when we win a shootout, even for games like last night and vs Quinnipiac at MSG where the shootout is literally meaningless for the Pairwise or standings? I get they want to hype up the fans, but it’s so misleading. The casual fan sees that stuff and thinks we actually won. Same for the standards and coverage of the team reporting OT wins as normal wins, etc. It really inflates the perception of what has been an extremely mediocre season (5 regulation wins, 4 regulation losses, 4 ties, 1 3x3 overtime win).

It seems to have spilled over to the team and coaches too: Schafer proud of his team after they tie (47th in the PWR) Harvard, proud after they tie Quinnipiac. Schafer happy with the team’s play when they lose 4-0 to ASU. Bancroft in MSG postgame saying “the boys got it done” following a tie. Raucous celebration beating a mediocre team (Colgate) at home in OT. Okay, the last one actually makes sense to do in the moment, but that was a bad Pairwise result and nobody cares to acknowledge that. Reminds me of 2021-22 when we kept beating bad teams in 3x3 OT and our record showed we were like 9-0-1 and then we collapsed in the second half and everyone was like “How?????” Coverage of college hockey needs to treat shootouts as ties and there needs to be a separate column for OT wins and losses.

Qpac at MSG makes sense because there’s a frozen apple trophy that somebody has to win. At least I think there is. There’s definitely a red hot hockey trophy. Tournaments make sense obviously. But last night, literally pointless. Very odd
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-229-75.myvzw.com)
Date: January 11, 2025 10:09AM

CU2007
BearLover
CU2007
Why is there a shootout in a non-conference, non-tournament game?
Related question: why do the Cornell hockey social media pages celebrate like we won the whole game when we win a shootout, even for games like last night and vs Quinnipiac at MSG where the shootout is literally meaningless for the Pairwise or standings? I get they want to hype up the fans, but it’s so misleading. The casual fan sees that stuff and thinks we actually won. Same for the standards and coverage of the team reporting OT wins as normal wins, etc. It really inflates the perception of what has been an extremely mediocre season (5 regulation wins, 4 regulation losses, 4 ties, 1 3x3 overtime win).

It seems to have spilled over to the team and coaches too: Schafer proud of his team after they tie (47th in the PWR) Harvard, proud after they tie Quinnipiac. Schafer happy with the team’s play when they lose 4-0 to ASU. Bancroft in MSG postgame saying “the boys got it done” following a tie. Raucous celebration beating a mediocre team (Colgate) at home in OT. Okay, the last one actually makes sense to do in the moment, but that was a bad Pairwise result and nobody cares to acknowledge that. Reminds me of 2021-22 when we kept beating bad teams in 3x3 OT and our record showed we were like 9-0-1 and then we collapsed in the second half and everyone was like “How?????” Coverage of college hockey needs to treat shootouts as ties and there needs to be a separate column for OT wins and losses.

Qpac at MSG makes sense because there’s a frozen apple trophy that somebody has to win. At least I think there is. There’s definitely a red hot hockey trophy. Tournaments make sense obviously. But last night, literally pointless. Very odd
It’s fine to do a shootout at the Frozen Apple (I’m also not sure there’s a trophy) but it’s really funny how probably 95% of Cornell fans in attendance thought we “won” the game. And if you’d seen the Cornell Hockey social media posts you’d think we won too.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: scoop85 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: January 11, 2025 10:52AM

In the recesses of my brain I thought I’d read that the NCAA has mandated shootouts in all games. But perhaps I am imagining that.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: marty (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: January 11, 2025 11:45AM

scoop85
In the recesses of my brain I thought I’d read that the NCAA has mandated shootouts in all games. But perhaps I am imagining that.

This is at least more close to being accurate than "maybe the coaches agreed". We're no longer living in the 60's.

I think it's mandated too but I'm too lazy to check.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Chris '03 (---.hfc.comcastbusiness.net)
Date: January 11, 2025 11:48AM

scoop85
In the recesses of my brain I thought I’d read that the NCAA has mandated shootouts in all games. But perhaps I am imagining that.

That’s my recollection as well.

 
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Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: David Harding (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: January 11, 2025 12:02PM

scoop85
In the recesses of my brain I thought I’d read that the NCAA has mandated shootouts in all games. But perhaps I am imagining that.

You are correct. In the 2024-25 and 2025-26 NCAA Ice Hockey Rules & Interpretations, under "Major Rules Changes for 2024-25" we find

91.2 Tied Games - Regular Season: All NCAA regular-season games
that remained tied will use a five-minute overtime period with
three skaters on each side (unless penalties are in effect). If the
game remains tied after the five-minute overtime, a shootout
will be conducted.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: TimV (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: January 11, 2025 12:09PM

BearLover

Related question: why do the Cornell hockey social media pages celebrate like we won the whole game when we win a shootout, even for games like last night and vs Quinnipiac at MSG where the shootout is literally meaningless for the Pairwise or standings? I get they want to hype up the fans, but it’s so misleading. The casual fan sees that stuff and thinks we actually won. Same for the standards and coverage of the team reporting OT wins as normal wins, etc. It really inflates the perception...

That's why. Forget it Jake. It's Chinatown social media.

 
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Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: VIEWfromK (172.58.243.---)
Date: January 11, 2025 01:26PM

I listened to the game and it seemed like they got to the shootout pretty quickly after OT ended. I was also getting my youngster to bed so maybe it wasn't as quick as I thought but anyone who was there or watched on TV, did they do an ice scrape?
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-235-209.myvzw.com)
Date: January 11, 2025 01:56PM

VIEWfromK
I listened to the game and it seemed like they got to the shootout pretty quickly after OT ended. I was also getting my youngster to bed so maybe it wasn't as quick as I thought but anyone who was there or watched on TV, did they do an ice scrape?

I know a lot of times they'll scrape one lane down the middle and that's it.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: VIEWfromK (172.58.243.---)
Date: January 11, 2025 02:01PM

Dafatone
VIEWfromK
I listened to the game and it seemed like they got to the shootout pretty quickly after OT ended. I was also getting my youngster to bed so maybe it wasn't as quick as I thought but anyone who was there or watched on TV, did they do an ice scrape?

I know a lot of times they'll scrape one lane down the middle and that's it.

But it usually takes ten minutes.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 11, 2025 05:01PM

scoop85
In the recesses of my brain I thought I’d read that the NCAA has mandated shootouts in all games. But perhaps I am imagining that.
I thought so. Part of aping the N and the race to the bottom.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-235-209.myvzw.com)
Date: January 11, 2025 05:23PM

There's weird bounces and then there's that.
 
Re: SHU 1/10-11
Posted by: Leprechaun (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: January 11, 2025 05:34PM

The announcers mentioned Donaldson is out of the lineup tonight and that last night's extra skater, O'Brien was slotting in to replace him. Do we have no extra skater tonight? Also I assume Donaldson is hurt, do we know when he's expected back?
 
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