THE FROZEN APPLE 2024

arugula
Q’s pp whipped the puck around and had lots of man motion. At the moment we do neither

Correct. Three possibilities:
1. Q PP unit is much more skilled than Cornell’s
2. Cornell’s PP unit doesn’t understand how to follow coaches’ orders
3. Coaching issue

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Trotsky
3x3 sucks in the N, too.

They should go back to 5 minutes normal overtime and then a tie, full stop. It was perfect.

Tbh I don't mind 3x3 in the N. I like the concept of opening up the ice for talented offensive players to go ham. The problem is I can't remember one NCAA game where this worked, in my admittedly limited experience.

We come out with the win, two points, woot. On to the next one. Colgate home and away should be easy right?

Also, what happened to captain :'(

This was considered a NC game. It’s a tie and zero conference points.

Really? Ugh.

BearLover

arugula
Q’s pp whipped the puck around and had lots of man motion. At the moment we do neither

Correct. Three possibilities:
1. Q PP unit is much more skilled than Cornell’s
2. Cornell’s PP unit doesn’t understand how to follow coaches’ orders
3. Coaching issue

The big thing that sticks out to me is the lack of body movement. Cornell has the skilled guys to do better on the PP. If you look at Dartmouth, they have less skill up front and overall team speed but they move the puck and their bodies around, which opens up more opportunities down low and for their offensively-skilled D from the point.

arugula
had lots of man motion. At the moment we do neither

This is the one thing about the team that makes me say unpleasant words to the cat. We don't move with the puck on pp, we push passes back and forth while standing utterly still. It really helps the penalty kill not to have to make those adjustments.

Typically you do that when your guys are low skill but come on, just look at this roster!

Yes. If you’re not going to use your skill, you should crowd the net and bomb away from the point. We dont do that either. Bancroft used to shoot. Not anymore.

I saw some things in that game that I believe they could build off of. It’s just that after playing one of their best periods of the season in the first, it might be unfair to expect them to apply those lessons to next weekend when they weren’t able to carry anything over into the second. When things were going good they were attacking the zone and putting pucks to the net from a variety of angles. I thought they met the moment of the stage they were playing on. After nearly letting the game get away from them they rallied quite nicely with a solid third. They even were the team in control at the end trying to win it in regulation where typically I think of them as having to hunker down and hang on to force OT. It was a different team than the previous Friday in many good ways. I’m looking forward to next weekend but first they’ll need to figure out how to make it through a week of practices intact.

chimpfood
Also to hate on 3x3 again,

I wish that once you enter the zone in OT you weren’t allowed to bring it back out voluntarily. If they want to continue to allow those resets I wish that they would put in a shot clock. It’s not real hockey anyway

I would not call O'Leary reckless. He may be a scrapper and he likes to stir things up, but not reckless. He is an excellent leader and the other boys love him. He garners respect from his teammates. He brings energy to the ice for sure.

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chimpfood
Also to hate on 3x3 again,

I wish that once you enter the zone in OT you weren’t allowed to bring it back out voluntarily. If they want to continue to allow those resets I wish that they would put in a shot clock. It’s not real hockey anyway

The "shot clock" for entering the offensive zone or a "back court" type violation for re-entering your own zone with the puck were some of the changes the NHL was considering for 3x3 OT, but they didn't make much progress and fell back on the tired old "well we don't want anything that creates more stoppages and faceoffs!"

CJ
I would not call O'Leary reckless. He may be a scrapper and he likes to stir things up, but not reckless. He is an excellent leader and the other boys love him. He garners respect from his teammates. He brings energy to the ice for sure.

He also turns the puck over a lot.

sah67

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chimpfood
Also to hate on 3x3 again,

I wish that once you enter the zone in OT you weren’t allowed to bring it back out voluntarily. If they want to continue to allow those resets I wish that they would put in a shot clock. It’s not real hockey anyway

The "shot clock" for entering the offensive zone or a "back court" type violation for re-entering your own zone with the puck were some of the changes the NHL was considering for 3x3 OT, but they didn't make much progress and fell back on the tired old "well we don't want anything that creates more stoppages and faceoffs!"

There shouldn’t be faceoffs after one of these violations. You should have to abandon the puck and play could continue. More chances should be the goal and not a team holding onto it for five minutes looking for that one golden opportunity at the end

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sah67

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chimpfood
Also to hate on 3x3 again,

I wish that once you enter the zone in OT you weren’t allowed to bring it back out voluntarily. If they want to continue to allow those resets I wish that they would put in a shot clock. It’s not real hockey anyway

The "shot clock" for entering the offensive zone or a "back court" type violation for re-entering your own zone with the puck were some of the changes the NHL was considering for 3x3 OT, but they didn't make much progress and fell back on the tired old "well we don't want anything that creates more stoppages and faceoffs!"

There shouldn’t be faceoffs after one of these violations. You should have to abandon the puck and play could continue. More chances should be the goal and not a team holding onto it for five minutes looking for that one golden opportunity at the end

If you institute a rule that a team has to shoot the puck within a minute of entering the zone i'm not sure if we'd ever score in OT.

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sah67

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chimpfood
Also to hate on 3x3 again,

I wish that once you enter the zone in OT you weren’t allowed to bring it back out voluntarily. If they want to continue to allow those resets I wish that they would put in a shot clock. It’s not real hockey anyway

The "shot clock" for entering the offensive zone or a "back court" type violation for re-entering your own zone with the puck were some of the changes the NHL was considering for 3x3 OT, but they didn't make much progress and fell back on the tired old "well we don't want anything that creates more stoppages and faceoffs!"

There shouldn’t be faceoffs after one of these violations. You should have to abandon the puck and play could continue. More chances should be the goal and not a team holding onto it for five minutes looking for that one golden opportunity at the end

Like sudden death OT in lacrosse before the shot clock. Team that won the faceoff held the ball for three-plus minutes before looking for a shot.

The energy in the 3rd was pretty good. We had the puck inside 10ft scoring area a ton of times just couldnt get one to go in. We need more of that.

JohnF81
Attendance was 16,593 according to CHN

16,593 of 18,006 ice hockey seats is 92% of capacity. FWIW, Cornell-BU Red Hot Hockey 2023 drew worse, 15,289.

I worried that with Cornell and Q having played 8 days earlier, the Garden would have been lucky to see attendance of 12,000. It got to 92% full because:
* Students love their parents but by Saturday they want to get the hell out of the house for the afternoon and evening.
* Metro NYC alumni don't go to many hockey games in Ithaca, so a game in the Garden is something special, and this is a chance to reconnect with Cornell and not get asked for money. Other than from Ticketmaster.
* Quinnipiac has a decent sized student body (about 7,000 undergrads plus grad students), at least 70,000 living alumni (they don't say living alumni but "alumni network", and some of them turned out, but it was clearly a Cornell majority crowd.

Still hope someone, anyone other than Q, anyone other than an ECAC opponent, is on tap for 2026 and 2028.