11/1 vs North Dakota

Chris '03

BearLover
What an atrocious period by the entire team.

Their lack of legs to start the season is showing. Getting beat and chasing the play all over the place. They had the benefit for TV timeouts last night but not tonight.

Nodak players are probably also just much faster on average. Also, Cornell can’t handle the pressure while on the PP and Shane gave up way too juicy of a rebound on the third Nodak goal. If you want to stop Cornell from scoring on the PP, simply aggressively pursue the puck carrier. Been this way for years.

Chris '03

BearLover
What an atrocious period by the entire team.

Their lack of legs to start the season is showing. Getting beat and chasing the play all over the place. They had the benefit for TV timeouts last night but not tonight.

Add in that I don't think we've seen Psenicka since early.

But hey, tie game!

Dafatone

Chris '03

BearLover
What an atrocious period by the entire team.

Their lack of legs to start the season is showing. Getting beat and chasing the play all over the place. They had the benefit for TV timeouts last night but not tonight.

Add in that I don't think we've seen Psenicka since early.

Jeeze, you’re right

BearLover

Dafatone

Chris '03

BearLover
What an atrocious period by the entire team.

Their lack of legs to start the season is showing. Getting beat and chasing the play all over the place. They had the benefit for TV timeouts last night but not tonight.

Add in that I don't think we've seen Psenicka since early.

Jeeze, you’re right

Looks like O’Brien lining up on offense in place of Psenicka. I wish the announcers paid a bit closer attention

BearLover

BearLover

Dafatone

Chris '03

BearLover
What an atrocious period by the entire team.

Their lack of legs to start the season is showing. Getting beat and chasing the play all over the place. They had the benefit for TV timeouts last night but not tonight.

Add in that I don't think we've seen Psenicka since early.

Jeeze, you’re right

Looks like O’Brien lining up on offense in place of Psenicka. I wish the announcers paid a bit closer attention

I was driving and had the whcu stream going. They pointed it out.

Shane does a great job in the 6x5 and Penney with a clutch ENG. What a day for Cornell sports fans.

Dafatone
Add in that I don't think we've seen Psenicka since early.

I don't think he was in the mob around Shane at the end. Hope it isn't serious.

Check the replay two minutes into the first period. You can see Psenicka go into the boards.

BearLover
Check the replay two minutes into the first period. You can see Psenicka go into the boards.

Correct. Saw it live. Btw Stanley was an absolute beast and O’Leary was driving them to distraction.

BearLover
Check the replay two minutes into the first period. You can see Psenicka go into the boards.

At the above-referenced 18-minute mark, you can see Psenicka fall awkwardly into the boards, right-shoulder-first. He actually returns for a second shift with about 15:30 to go, but clutches his right shoulder multiple times while on the ice and after that O’Brien started seeing shifts.

The ND forum (some members) are giving us credit for being the better team and wishing they could play at our level. Saying we outplayed them 5 of 6 periods this weekend. Im a bit offended by a member or two who supposedly visited this weekend calling Lynah a dump. They can have their “palace” (check out behind the scenes of their place on youtube, it is insane), but I’ll take the wooden planks on concrete anyday over a no character nhl wannabe arena.

Absolutely amazing sweep. We sucked in the second period but bounced back and got it done. This sets us yo super well for the rest of the year.

What a goddamn day to be a Cornell sports fan. Mens' hockey sweeps NoDak, Women's destroys RPI, football dominates Princeton, Men's soccer rolls Harvard. Fuck yes.

toddlose
The ND forum (some members) are giving us credit for being the better team and wishing they could play at our level. Saying we outplayed them 5 of 6 periods this weekend. Im a bit offended by a member or two who supposedly visited this weekend calling Lynah a dump. They can have their “palace” (check out behind the scenes of their place on youtube, it is insane), but I’ll take the wooden planks on concrete anyday over a no character nhl wannabe arena.

The quality of discourse on that website is exactly as I remember it the last time I visited when we swept them in 2022.

9 goals
9 goal-scorers

“Depth” is the word this season

Oh, and now 7-5-0 all time vs. NoDak.

nothing wrong with lynah except the old wooden benches but thats part of the charm as well.

Amazing weekend but not really. Town section was half empty (brought no energy as well). Student section needs a complete overhaul, this is bad

coffee tastes really good this morning

I was a little worried that after what I saw Friday that Hedquist would make a big difference on Saturday. He proved to be just as leaky as Semptimphelter. Cornell didn’t dominate in any facet yet still swept. I’ll take the two wins knowing that there is plenty of room for improvement.

Big Dingus
Amazing weekend but not really. Town section was half empty (brought no energy as well). Student section needs a complete overhaul, this is bad

Opening weekend against a team casual fans would have no reason to care about. This annual tradition of complaining that the building is perfect like it was when whoever was a student is predict and tiresome. I'd rather see people spar with BearLover over draft picks (how many does nodak have again?) than have more lament that the crowd just didn't appreciate things appropriately.

It was an enormous weekend. Cornell's third period last night was fantastic after a second period where they looked tired and without enough in the tank to come back. It looked like it might be headed for 6-2 ND. But credit to team and coaches for coming out with renewed energy in the third and earning a statement sweep. Two big wins that will help in March.

Cornell is not healthy and didn’t play flawless hockey by any stretch this weekend but still got two wins. I don't care that a couple hundred townies and students had other plans.

A couple dinged up and a couple out until after break.

lets play well next weekend to start the Conf sched

Wolfenberg seemed way out of positioned on the first NoDak goal this weekend. Then he scored his first career college goal a few shifts later.

Couldn’t really tell much from watching Major. Obviously he is highly thought of to be on the 1st PP unit as a freshman. But the PP looked awful all weekend so I didn’t see much from him (or anyone else on that unit).

I’m surprised Mosko and Donaldson didn’t crack the lineup, unless they’re hurt.

Great depth on the roster, though with all the injuries already, that depth is almost gone.

BearLover
I’m surprised Mosko and Donaldson didn’t crack the lineup, unless they’re hurt.

I don't know where I saw it, but I'm pretty sure they're hurt.

BearLover
People in Greek life are mostly pregaming/partying on Friday and Saturday nights. In my experience a high proportion of students who purchase season tickets are freshmen. Many of these students joins frats/sororities and don’t buy season tickets in future seasons. If you’re a girl who wants to get ready to go out or a guy whose frat is throwing a party that night, you can’t really attend a game that night.

To be clear, none of the above describes my own experience at Cornell (or the experience of most on the forum, probably). But I do think that’s part of what’s going on. Unlike at a football or basketball school where social life during football/basketball season revolves around the school’s biggest sport, at Cornell social life conflicts with the school’s biggest sport (hockey).

There was a time when a number of frats had quite large seating blocks. (Certainly in the late 80s). Not that I could remember the names of those houses.

Man. A sweep and we dropped to 7th in the pairwise.

Can't we schedule some actual quality opposition that doesn't drag down our sos? Wtf?

abmarks
Man. A sweep and we dropped to 7th in the pairwise.

Can't we schedule some actual quality opposition that doesn't drag down our sos? Wtf?

I mean…We haven’t beaten anyone with a winning record yet.

abmarks
Man. A sweep and we dropped to 7th in the pairwise.

Can't we schedule some actual quality opposition that doesn't drag down our sos? Wtf?

The worst part is now we have to root for NoDak all year.

RichH

abmarks
Man. A sweep and we dropped to 7th in the pairwise.

Can't we schedule some actual quality opposition that doesn't drag down our sos? Wtf?

I mean…We haven’t beaten anyone with a winning record yet.

And the problem is that there may not be an opponent with a winning record for a while depending on what shakes out in the conference next weekend.

Iceberg

RichH

abmarks
Man. A sweep and we dropped to 7th in the pairwise.

Can't we schedule some actual quality opposition that doesn't drag down our sos? Wtf?

I mean…We haven’t beaten anyone with a winning record yet.

And the problem is that there may not be an opponent with a winning record for a while depending on what shakes out in the conference next weekend.

I think NoDak will find it's way back over .500 pretty quickly, and, once they get healthy, they will eventually make these wins look pretty good.

I'm going to guess there were quite a few "See you guys in March or April"s in the handshake line last night.

VIEWfromK
I was a little worried that after what I saw Friday that Hedquist would make a big difference on Saturday. He proved to be just as leaky as Semptimphelter. Cornell didn’t dominate in any facet yet still swept. I’ll take the two wins knowing that there is plenty of room for improvement.

I don't know if we were watching the same game. We were better on the boards and we passed better in the offensive zone. Plus, you even noticed what may have been equally important: Shane was much better than Semptimphelquist. And while we're at it...

Chris '03
I'd rather see people spar with BearLover over draft picks (how many does nodak have again?)

If you were building an NHL team, you'd probably rather have the clay on the NoDak roster. If you wanted to bet on the results of a hockey game right now, put the money on red. This is the hand we've been dealt rooting for a team in the Ivy League. We aren't going to get as many of the draft picks because we can't admit a lot of the elite players and the players we can admit need a very deep commitment to hockey, architecture, hospitality or labor policy because otherwise we've got a branding issue within the conference. Under our constraints we do pretty goddamn well.

BearLover
Couldn’t really tell much from watching Major. Obviously he is highly thought of to be on the 1st PP unit as a freshman. But the PP looked awful all weekend so I didn’t see much from him (or anyone else on that unit).

I thought Major was all over the place, even if he didn't show up in the boxscore.* He has a little of early (even current) Castagna, in that he's used to being able to skate circles around people and he needs to better adjust to the level to take full advantage of his skills. He can do what he's trying to do but not as often as he thinks he can. When he figures out the right balance of "do it myself" and pull back and let the team work around him, he's going to be special. Again, like Castagna.

* I know that he was technically in the boxscore on the Rego goal but ... come on with that secondary assist. A wraparound off of Suda's shot to the glass and he passed to Suda? No complaints but come on.

1. Cornell dominated most of both games, except the 8-minute brain fart in the second period Saturday, which they promptly erased.

2. I had several good conversations with North Dakota fans and they appear to be good-natured and cognitively functional if you ignore their probable politics.

3. Age and Catherine's daughter Faye is the cutest kid I've ever seen, and I typically react to other people's children the way Jackson Kunz reacts to GETTING FUCKING SWEPT YOU GOON!

Dafatone

abmarks
Man. A sweep and we dropped to 7th in the pairwise.

Can't we schedule some actual quality opposition that doesn't drag down our sos? Wtf?

The worst part is now we have to root for NoDak all year.

I have no problem with that as long as they stick to the green sweaters. Go Sioux!

Trotsky

Dafatone

abmarks
Man. A sweep and we dropped to 7th in the pairwise.

Can't we schedule some actual quality opposition that doesn't drag down our sos? Wtf?

The worst part is now we have to root for NoDak all year.

I have no problem with that as long as they stick to the green sweaters. Go Sioux!

Ahem. Hawks.

Dafatone

Trotsky

Dafatone

abmarks
Man. A sweep and we dropped to 7th in the pairwise.

Can't we schedule some actual quality opposition that doesn't drag down our sos? Wtf?

The worst part is now we have to root for NoDak all year.

I have no problem with that as long as they stick to the green sweaters. Go Sioux!

Ahem. Hawks.

Nope. Sioux. If there's one team where I can accept a Native American nickname it's UND.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Dafatone

Trotsky

Dafatone

abmarks
Man. A sweep and we dropped to 7th in the pairwise.

Can't we schedule some actual quality opposition that doesn't drag down our sos? Wtf?

The worst part is now we have to root for NoDak all year.

I have no problem with that as long as they stick to the green sweaters. Go Sioux!

Ahem. Hawks.

Nope. Sioux. If there's one team where I can accept a Native American nickname it's UND.

you and ralphie! choose your bedfellows however you want.

BearLover

BearLover
Check the replay two minutes into the first period. You can see Psenicka go into the boards.

At the above-referenced 18-minute mark, you can see Psenicka fall awkwardly into the boards, right-shoulder-first. He actually returns for a second shift with about 15:30 to go, but clutches his right shoulder multiple times while on the ice and after that O’Brien started seeing shifts.

New member here and new STM (1L law!) who sits right behind the tunnel - yep. Psenicka (26) went down the tunnel early in the first holding that right shoulder, dropped his glove and stick and they stayed there for the rest of the period. Looked to be in pretty considerable pain. Don't know what happened exactly, though I would not be surprised if it's a broken collarbone. Also notable - Castagna (38) blocked a shot I want to say mid second period that seemed to hit his knee above the padding, was floating in and out of going down the tunnel for a bit but stuck it out. Suda (27) took a shot to the hand around that time I want to say, and was icing it on the bench too. Walsh (14) I think smashed his face somehow with like 3 minutes left and was doing that floating in and out of the tunnel thing too; the lady who I assume is the medical expert was inspecting him for a bit and I think pulled some teeth, but not completely sure.

Um. I like watching the happenings on the bench haha.

All that being said, hi, these are my first hockey games actually I've been to in person! Devils fan but never really got the chance to go to games until coming up for law school. Got men's and women's season tickets so I'm gonna be studying tort law in the seats between periods, haha, and would love to meet people who know more about the Big Red (My only college hockey friend is a BU fan who insists we're rivals, which, I think we've played them like 20 times in our existence, we have bigger fish to fry I thought - pun intended - but.) And yeah, I've been educated enough on what teams are good and what teams aren't to know these were pretty big games. Super proud of the team for pulling out four big points.

Also, if that Kunz (29) from NoDak wanted to sit and watch Cornell dog on his team that bad, he could have just bought tickets to the game instead of taking so many penalties... Surprised with how chippy the game got and how little the refs did, especially when they'd do offsetting penalties like when one or two of our guys got jumped by half of NoDak... which also reminds me of that Emery (6, NoDak) and Catalano (15) interaction at the end of the second where Emery did the, like, you're next gesture at Catalano and Catalano was close to skating over and ripping his head off... HAH. Also also (I feel I'm rambling, I just have nobody else to talk about this to) what was up with that Septimphelter guy? Wasn't he supposed to be good?

I was at both games this weekend and here’s my thoughts, for whatever that’s worth:

-We definitely deserved both wins, despite the inconsistency in play. First weekend of actual play is often the same
-The referees were not calling much, which definitely didn’t help. Get the game under control or injuries are likely to happen. We can’t afford any more of those
-I was anticipating more from some of the guys-Castagna, Mack, Kovich, etc or maybe I was talking too much and missed something
-The NY contingency-Walsh, OLeary, Kraft were fast and productive - and even Major -to an extent - felt like quite a few more goals could have come from any of them-did I forget any NYers?
-Coach going off on the refs last night was warranted in my opinion
-I spoke with many visiting fans-nice group and I was surprised how many made the trip. They seemed to be having a great time
-Excited to see what comes next weekend

Welcome!

BU is indeed a rival- they were in the ECAC (our division) for a very long time before they left for the newly-created Hockey East in the 80s.

We restarted the rivalry with a game at MSG in 2007. It was supposed to be a short-lived thing but it was so successful that we now play them every other year at MSG on the first Saturday after Thanksgiving, on odd years. On even years we play somebody else; this year it’s Quinnipiac, which is annoying since a) they’re in our conference so we play them twice anyways and b) I loathe them. Worth a trip if you’re near NYC for Thanksgiving.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Dafatone

Trotsky

Dafatone

abmarks
Man. A sweep and we dropped to 7th in the pairwise.

Can't we schedule some actual quality opposition that doesn't drag down our sos? Wtf?

The worst part is now we have to root for NoDak all year.

I have no problem with that as long as they stick to the green sweaters. Go Sioux!

Ahem. Hawks.

Nope. Sioux. If there's one team where I can accept a Native American nickname it's UND.

As someone from around there, I'll just say that the Dakotas' track record on Indigenous issues leaves something to be desired.

Also, Ralph Engelstad tried to insist on no name change as a condition of leaving all that money for the arena. He threw a birthday party or two for Hitler in the 80s.

abmarks

BearLover
People in Greek life are mostly pregaming/partying on Friday and Saturday nights. In my experience a high proportion of students who purchase season tickets are freshmen. Many of these students joins frats/sororities and don’t buy season tickets in future seasons. If you’re a girl who wants to get ready to go out or a guy whose frat is throwing a party that night, you can’t really attend a game that night.

To be clear, none of the above describes my own experience at Cornell (or the experience of most on the forum, probably). But I do think that’s part of what’s going on. Unlike at a football or basketball school where social life during football/basketball season revolves around the school’s biggest sport, at Cornell social life conflicts with the school’s biggest sport (hockey).

There was a time when a number of frats had quite large seating blocks. (Certainly in the late 80s). Not that I could remember the names of those houses.

"If you remember the Eighties, you weren't part of them."

NoDak ran into the "Dream-Crushing, Soul-Devouring Juggernaut" of college hockey this weekend. I was in section O for both games, which was a mix of Cornell and NoDak fans and had pleasant conversations with a few of the NoDak fans. I tip my cap to them for traveling so well; there was a healthy amount of green in O and F. Much better cohesion for the team's first two games than I feel we've seen at the start of past recent seasons. The injuries are however troubling. As someone mentioned earlier, the team was fortunate how healthy it was throughout last season.

BMac
Welcome!

BU is indeed a rival- they were in the ECAC (our division) for a very long time before they left for the newly-created Hockey East in the 80s.

We restarted the rivalry with a game at MSG in 2007. It was supposed to be a short-lived thing but it was so successful that we now play them every other year at MSG on the first Saturday after Thanksgiving, on odd years.

We really restarted the rivalry with home-and-home pairs, two at Walter Brown in 2001-02 that we split, and two at Lynah in 2002-03 that Cornell dominated, Jack Parker describing it afterward as “boys playing against men.” I think MSG was more of a natural next step that just took a few years to put together.

Welcome stereax, seems like you’re in for a great season. Seats behind the bench are great, I can remember sprinting over there as a kid as soon as the game ended to high five the players and try to get a puck. Castagnas soak actually was on Bancroft clapper, he was on the ground and couldn’t get out of the way but I was glad he played through it.

Beeeej

BMac
Welcome!

BU is indeed a rival- they were in the ECAC (our division) for a very long time before they left for the newly-created Hockey East in the 80s.

We restarted the rivalry with a game at MSG in 2007. It was supposed to be a short-lived thing but it was so successful that we now play them every other year at MSG on the first Saturday after Thanksgiving, on odd years.

We really restarted the rivalry with home-and-home pairs, two at Walter Brown in 2001-02 that we split, and two at Lynah in 2002-03 that Cornell dominated, Jack Parker describing it afterward as “boys playing against men.” I think MSG was more of a natural next step that just took a few years to put together.

I see, I see! I've been thinking about biting for Frozen Apple tickets this year, I think a few other law students will be there, but unfortunately I don't yet know my Thanksgiving plans (as in, there's a decent chance I'm headed to Europe for decently important reasons) so I haven't yet pulled the trigger. Def want to try to get to Red Hot next year, considering what I've heard.

What's the deal with Quinnipiac? I know the Harvard rivalry, I know the Colgate toothpaste thing, I know maybe 50% of the chants going on because I'm just far enough away from Section B that I can't clearly hear things single people are yelling... I know (according to my BU friend) that NoDak is a good team whose fans are full of "racists" and "terrible people" (he regales an anecdote where a NoDak fan threw a beer at the BU goalie's mom??? is this a thing in college hockey, wtf???) (me: apparently it's anti hate day when we play NoDak next week, him: tell the NoDak fans that) (sorry for the parentheses I am RAMBLING now ) Quinnipiac is in that same bucket with Cornell where they're good in the ECAC partially because the ECAC is pretty terrible, right? From my understanding.

chimpfood
Welcome stereax, seems like you’re in for a great season. Seats behind the bench are great, I can remember sprinting over there as a kid as soon as the game ended to high five the players and try to get a puck. Castagnas soak actually was on Bancroft clapper, he was on the ground and couldn’t get out of the way but I was glad he played through it.

Hoping for a good season! I'm definitely too far behind to do the high-five/puck thing, plus I feel I'm a little old for it HAHAHA, especially when I see all the little kids crowding the bench area during the women's games I'd just feel bad about it, haha. But I do love to watch the guys chatting on the bench and the equipment manager running the entire show, re-hoofing players, getting them new sticks, and all that. For women's games I tend to sit closer to the glass and stairs, so less of that for those games.

Yeah, I recall Castagna got hit by a teammate during I think the powerplay, couldn't remember who though. Looked like he was 50/50 on continuing or calling it a game, happy he stuck it out but also hopeful it's nothing actually serious. (Don't know how well NCAA regulates player health, just going off NHL scares where you hear about players playing half a season on one leg...)

Dafatone

Jeff Hopkins '82

Dafatone

Trotsky

Dafatone

abmarks
Man. A sweep and we dropped to 7th in the pairwise.

Can't we schedule some actual quality opposition that doesn't drag down our sos? Wtf?

The worst part is now we have to root for NoDak all year.

I have no problem with that as long as they stick to the green sweaters. Go Sioux!

Ahem. Hawks.

Nope. Sioux. If there's one team where I can accept a Native American nickname it's UND.

As someone from around there, I'll just say that the Dakotas' track record on Indigenous issues leaves something to be desired.

Also, Ralph Engelstad tried to insist on no name change as a condition of leaving all that money for the arena. He threw a birthday party or two for Hitler in the 80s.

Correct. Hawks.

JasonN95
NoDak ran into the "Dream-Crushing, Soul-Devouring Juggernaut" of college hockey this weekend. I was in section O for both games, which was a mix of Cornell and NoDak fans and had pleasant conversations with a few of the NoDak fans. I tip my cap to them for traveling so well; there was a healthy amount of green in O and F. Much better cohesion for the team's first two games than I feel we've seen at the start of past recent seasons. The injuries are however troubling. As someone mentioned earlier, the team was fortunate how healthy it was throughout last season.

From my memories of a bunch of us traveling to Grand Forks in '09, I remember walking into some local thirst parlors and getting the *record scratch* effect. I didn't know if it was the kind of place where "how dare you wear the opponent colors in here" or "I hear Cornell is in *gasp* NEW YORK,...are you gonna be callous east coast bastards?" but once we broke the ice (so to speak) with some of the locals, they were all cool with us and we were with them. From my experience at all the Frozen Fours I've been to, North Dakota fans are by and large (and I mean large in several ways) some of the more friendly and easy-going yet intensely loyal hockey fans you'll come across and like us, they'll travel anywhere. They're generally pleasant folks if you like hockey. And they REALLY want to hear what you think of their A R E N A.

BMac
Welcome!

BU is indeed a rival- they were in the ECAC (our division) for a very long time before they left for the newly-created Hockey East in the 80s.

Definitely welcome to Stereax!

More than that, before 1980, the NCAA tournament was only made up of four teams: two Eastern, and two Western. From about 1965-1975, BU and Cornell were the most dominant and successful Eastern teams and kept butting heads in the ECAC and NCAA tournaments. The old-timers still hold and feel it. To this day, there's a Cornell cheer that ends with "Screw BU....<opponent> too." BU has gone on to have more success as the sport has grown, while Ivies have kept old restrictions on Athletics.

stereax
What's the deal with Quinnipiac? … Quinnipiac is in that same bucket with Cornell where they're good in the ECAC partially because the ECAC is pretty terrible, right? From my understanding.

The short version is that Quinnipiac is often viewed around here as barely a step above a community college in terms of acceptance rate, in a conference otherwise comprised of six Ivies and five historically strong liberal arts and STEM institutions, that basically bought their way to athletic greatness. Not to say that any coach could’ve accomplished the same thing that Pecknold has with what was a mediocre D-III-then-D-II team when he took over thirty years ago just by spending money. But it has left an especially bad taste in some Lynah Faithful mouths because over the same thirty years, Schafer has accomplished *nearly* as much, and somewhat more consistently, with no scholarships, much higher admissions standards, and a culture that doesn’t encourage individual stars, but no national title, and only one Frozen Four appearance.

That’s the short version.

Beeeej

BMac
Welcome!

BU is indeed a rival- they were in the ECAC (our division) for a very long time before they left for the newly-created Hockey East in the 80s.

We restarted the rivalry with a game at MSG in 2007. It was supposed to be a short-lived thing but it was so successful that we now play them every other year at MSG on the first Saturday after Thanksgiving, on odd years.

We really restarted the rivalry with home-and-home pairs, two at Walter Brown in 2001-02 that we split, and two at Lynah in 2002-03 that Cornell dominated, Jack Parker describing it afterward as “boys playing against men.” I think MSG was more of a natural next step that just took a few years to put together.

I like to believe that after the way the Big Red pasted BU that weekend that they would not be setting foot in Lynah again during the Parker era so neutral site was the only remaining option. Cornell did play that one off at BU two seasons ago so I’m curious if there will be a reciprocal trip to Ithaca in an upcoming Red Hot Hockey off year?

Beeeej

stereax
What's the deal with Quinnipiac? … Quinnipiac is in that same bucket with Cornell where they're good in the ECAC partially because the ECAC is pretty terrible, right? From my understanding.

The short version is that Quinnipiac is often viewed around here as barely a step above a community college in terms of acceptance rate, in a conference otherwise comprised of six Ivies and five historically strong liberal arts and STEM institutions, that basically bought their way to athletic greatness. Not to say that any coach could’ve accomplished the same thing that Pecknold has with what was a mediocre D-III-then-D-II team when he took over thirty years ago just by spending money. But it has left an especially bad taste in some Lynah Faithful mouths because over the same thirty years, Schafer has accomplished *nearly* as much, and somewhat more consistently, with no scholarships, much higher admissions standards, and a culture that doesn’t encourage individual stars, but no national title, and only one Frozen Four appearance.

That’s the short version.

While this is mostly true, the fixation on Quinnipiac being a bad academic school is kind of strange…there are quite a few schools in the ECAC, and many more across college hockey, with very high acceptance rates and a weak national ranking (or whatever other metric you want to pick to rip on a school’s academics).

Beeeej

stereax
What's the deal with Quinnipiac? … Quinnipiac is in that same bucket with Cornell where they're good in the ECAC partially because the ECAC is pretty terrible, right? From my understanding.

The short version is that Quinnipiac is often viewed around here as barely a step above a community college in terms of acceptance rate, in a conference otherwise comprised of six Ivies and five historically strong liberal arts and STEM institutions, that basically bought their way to athletic greatness. Not to say that any coach could’ve accomplished the same thing that Pecknold has with what was a mediocre D-III-then-D-II team when he took over thirty years ago just by spending money. But it has left an especially bad taste in some Lynah Faithful mouths because over the same thirty years, Schafer has accomplished *nearly* as much, and somewhat more consistently, with no scholarships, much higher admissions standards, and a culture that doesn’t encourage individual stars, but no national title, and only one Frozen Four appearance.

That’s the short version.

Oh, there's a shorter version.

BearLover

Beeeej

stereax
What's the deal with Quinnipiac? … Quinnipiac is in that same bucket with Cornell where they're good in the ECAC partially because the ECAC is pretty terrible, right? From my understanding.

The short version is that Quinnipiac is often viewed around here as barely a step above a community college in terms of acceptance rate, in a conference otherwise comprised of six Ivies and five historically strong liberal arts and STEM institutions, that basically bought their way to athletic greatness. Not to say that any coach could’ve accomplished the same thing that Pecknold has with what was a mediocre D-III-then-D-II team when he took over thirty years ago just by spending money. But it has left an especially bad taste in some Lynah Faithful mouths because over the same thirty years, Schafer has accomplished *nearly* as much, and somewhat more consistently, with no scholarships, much higher admissions standards, and a culture that doesn’t encourage individual stars, but no national title, and only one Frozen Four appearance.

That’s the short version.

While this is mostly true, the fixation on Quinnipiac being a bad academic school is kind of strange…there are quite a few schools in the ECAC, and many more across college hockey, with very high acceptance rates and a weak national ranking (or whatever other metric you want to pick to rip on a school’s academics).

IINM the only ECAC school even remotely as bad as Q in recent history was UVM. They deserve the ridicule.

Trotsky
IINM the only ECAC school even remotely as bad as Q in recent history was UVM. They deserve the ridicule.

Yes, the SUNY Buffalo of Vermont is far better than the Hofstra of Connecticut.

Scersk '97

Trotsky
IINM the only ECAC school even remotely as bad as Q in recent history was UVM. They deserve the ridicule.

Yes, the SUNY Buffalo of Vermont is far better than the Hofstra of Connecticut.

That's hard on Hofstra. I'd go with the Adelphi of Connecticut.

But funny AF nonetheless. I would purchase again.

Beeeej

BMac
Welcome!

BU is indeed a rival- they were in the ECAC (our division) for a very long time before they left for the newly-created Hockey East in the 80s.

We restarted the rivalry with a game at MSG in 2007. It was supposed to be a short-lived thing but it was so successful that we now play them every other year at MSG on the first Saturday after Thanksgiving, on odd years.

We really restarted the rivalry with home-and-home pairs, two at Walter Brown in 2001-02 that we split, and two at Lynah in 2002-03 that Cornell dominated, Jack Parker describing it afterward as “boys playing against men.” I think MSG was more of a natural next step that just took a few years to put together.

Oh cool that’s context I didn’t have- thanks!

My knowledge of Cornell hockey is kinda of like that classic New Yorker cover “view from 9th avenue”- where anything before 2004 is Prehistory, known only from archeology and carbon dating.

Idk how to post a pic here but:

RichH

BMac
Welcome!

BU is indeed a rival- they were in the ECAC (our division) for a very long time before they left for the newly-created Hockey East in the 80s.

Definitely welcome to Stereax!

More than that, before 1980, the NCAA tournament was only made up of four teams: two Eastern, and two Western. From about 1965-1975, BU and Cornell were the most dominant and successful Eastern teams and kept butting heads in the ECAC and NCAA tournaments. The old-timers still hold and feel it. To this day, there's a Cornell cheer that ends with "Screw BU....<opponent> too." BU has gone on to have more success as the sport has grown, while Ivies have kept old restrictions on Athletics.

Some more history! Love it, thank you.

Trotsky

Scersk '97

Trotsky
IINM the only ECAC school even remotely as bad as Q in recent history was UVM. They deserve the ridicule.

Yes, the SUNY Buffalo of Vermont is far better than the Hofstra of Connecticut.

That's hard on Hofstra. I'd go with the Adelphi of Connecticut.

But funny AF nonetheless. I would purchase again.

They are strikingly similar, commuter colleges that have ballooned into "universities." Both even have middling law and med schools, although some of QU's med departments are well-respected.

Quinnipiac's like Hofstra without the brutalism.

Nice highlight reels of the games put together by NoDak. I wish that CU would do the same, making longer videos that included more of the highlights that didn't end in a goal.

Game 1: [www.youtube.com]

Game 2: [www.youtube.com]

JasonN95

I wish that CU would do the same, making longer videos that included more of the highlights that didn't end in a goal.

Sounds like a great suggestion for AD Moore.

Swampy

JasonN95

I wish that CU would do the same, making longer videos that included more of the highlights that didn't end in a goal.

Sounds like a great suggestion for AD Moore.

i posted the Cornell reel from game 1 and it did include good non-goal action

JasonN95
Nice highlight reels of the games put together by NoDak. I wish that CU would do the same, making longer videos that included more of the highlights that didn't end in a goal.

Game 1: [www.youtube.com]

Game 2: [www.youtube.com]

Yes, I agree. The Cornell reels are really lacking—they’re 2 minutes and show only the goals and just one angle of each goal. And maybe worst of all, each clip starts right before the goal, so viewers have no idea how the play originally developed.

BearLover

JasonN95
Nice highlight reels of the games put together by NoDak. I wish that CU would do the same, making longer videos that included more of the highlights that didn't end in a goal.

Game 1: [www.youtube.com]

Game 2: [www.youtube.com]

Yes, I agree. The Cornell reels are really lacking—they’re 2 minutes and show only the goals and just one angle of each goal. And maybe worst of all, each clip starts right before the goal, so viewers have no idea how the play originally developed.

Anyone else notice that there was a new blue line camera in use on the broadcasts? There was a replay shown using that blue line mounted camera on a play where o'leary would have been in all alone except he was about a stride over the line when the puck reached him.

Iirc I only saw that shot used that one time.

And noticeable, if only because I didn't even notice for a few periods; much smoother camera work, less stuttery and better centered on the action.

abmarks

BearLover

JasonN95
Nice highlight reels of the games put together by NoDak. I wish that CU would do the same, making longer videos that included more of the highlights that didn't end in a goal.

Game 1: [www.youtube.com]

Game 2: [www.youtube.com]

Yes, I agree. The Cornell reels are really lacking—they’re 2 minutes and show only the goals and just one angle of each goal. And maybe worst of all, each clip starts right before the goal, so viewers have no idea how the play originally developed.

Anyone else notice that there was a new blue line camera in use on the broadcasts? There was a replay shown using that blue line mounted camera on a play where o'leary would have been in all alone except he was about a stride over the line when the puck reached him.

Iirc I only saw that shot used that one time.

And noticeable, if only because I didn't even notice for a few periods; much smoother camera work, less stuttery and better centered on the action.

Yes, but I thought the picture quality was really bad. I didn’t see the puck go in the net on any of the goals. I only know someone scored by the announcing/player reactions.

BearLover

abmarks

BearLover

JasonN95
Nice highlight reels of the games put together by NoDak. I wish that CU would do the same, making longer videos that included more of the highlights that didn't end in a goal.

Game 1: [www.youtube.com]

Game 2: [www.youtube.com]

Yes, I agree. The Cornell reels are really lacking—they’re 2 minutes and show only the goals and just one angle of each goal. And maybe worst of all, each clip starts right before the goal, so viewers have no idea how the play originally developed.

Anyone else notice that there was a new blue line camera in use on the broadcasts? There was a replay shown using that blue line mounted camera on a play where o'leary would have been in all alone except he was about a stride over the line when the puck reached him.

Iirc I only saw that shot used that one time.

And noticeable, if only because I didn't even notice for a few periods; much smoother camera work, less stuttery and better centered on the action.

Yes, but I thought the picture quality was really bad. I didn’t see the puck go in the net on any of the goals. I only know someone scored by the announcing/player reactions.

Was it worse than last year? It varied night to night and camera to camera in the past because they clearly don't set the different cameras to a common white balance level.

If the camera operator sets the white balance so the scoreboard is clear, it'll be way too dim a broadcast. And with how dim the rink is vs the brightness of that board, getting proper brightness on the ice will wash out that board.

We need some alums descended from Sylvania or Westinghouse or something to pay for a serious lighting upgrade in there.

(Lol @grady calling out the crap pa, saying something like . "Ehhh well, someday they'll have to upgrade it"

abmarks

BearLover

abmarks

BearLover

JasonN95
Nice highlight reels of the games put together by NoDak. I wish that CU would do the same, making longer videos that included more of the highlights that didn't end in a goal.

Game 1: [www.youtube.com]

Game 2: [www.youtube.com]

Yes, I agree. The Cornell reels are really lacking—they’re 2 minutes and show only the goals and just one angle of each goal. And maybe worst of all, each clip starts right before the goal, so viewers have no idea how the play originally developed.

Anyone else notice that there was a new blue line camera in use on the broadcasts? There was a replay shown using that blue line mounted camera on a play where o'leary would have been in all alone except he was about a stride over the line when the puck reached him.

Iirc I only saw that shot used that one time.

And noticeable, if only because I didn't even notice for a few periods; much smoother camera work, less stuttery and better centered on the action.

Yes, but I thought the picture quality was really bad. I didn’t see the puck go in the net on any of the goals. I only know someone scored by the announcing/player reactions.

Was it worse than last year? It varied night to night and camera to camera in the past because they clearly don't set the different cameras to a common white balance level.

If the camera operator sets the white balance so the scoreboard is clear, it'll be way too dim a broadcast. And with how dim the rink is vs the brightness of that board, getting proper brightness on the ice will wash out that board.

We need some alums descended from Sylvania or Westinghouse or something to pay for a serious lighting upgrade in there.

(Lol @grady calling out the crap pa, saying something like . "Ehhh well, someday they'll have to upgrade it"

During the women’s games last weekend they were using shots from the cameras over the goal lines on some replays. I only caught a couple of periods of the men’s games. Were they using those shots in the men’s games?

RichH

BMac
Welcome!

BU is indeed a rival- they were in the ECAC (our division) for a very long time before they left for the newly-created Hockey East in the 80s.

Definitely welcome to Stereax!

More than that, before 1980, the NCAA tournament was only made up of four teams: two Eastern, and two Western. From about 1965-1975, BU and Cornell were the most dominant and successful Eastern teams and kept butting heads in the ECAC and NCAA tournaments. The old-timers still hold and feel it. To this day, there's a Cornell cheer that ends with "Screw BU....<opponent> too." BU has gone on to have more success as the sport has grown, while Ivies have kept old restrictions on Athletics.

Thanks for the warm welcome, y'all!! Looking forward to chatting more as the season goes on. And thanks everyone for giving me some backstory about all this!

(Is it bad that I don't know what Hofstra is...)

Weder

abmarks

BearLover

abmarks

BearLover

JasonN95
Nice highlight reels of the games put together by NoDak. I wish that CU would do the same, making longer videos that included more of the highlights that didn't end in a goal.

Game 1: [www.youtube.com]

Game 2: [www.youtube.com]

Yes, I agree. The Cornell reels are really lacking—they’re 2 minutes and show only the goals and just one angle of each goal. And maybe worst of all, each clip starts right before the goal, so viewers have no idea how the play originally developed.

Anyone else notice that there was a new blue line camera in use on the broadcasts? There was a replay shown using that blue line mounted camera on a play where o'leary would have been in all alone except he was about a stride over the line when the puck reached him.

Iirc I only saw that shot used that one time.

And noticeable, if only because I didn't even notice for a few periods; much smoother camera work, less stuttery and better centered on the action.

Yes, but I thought the picture quality was really bad. I didn’t see the puck go in the net on any of the goals. I only know someone scored by the announcing/player reactions.

Was it worse than last year? It varied night to night and camera to camera in the past because they clearly don't set the different cameras to a common white balance level.

If the camera operator sets the white balance so the scoreboard is clear, it'll be way too dim a broadcast. And with how dim the rink is vs the brightness of that board, getting proper brightness on the ice will wash out that board.

We need some alums descended from Sylvania or Westinghouse or something to pay for a serious lighting upgrade in there.

(Lol @grady calling out the crap pa, saying something like . "Ehhh well, someday they'll have to upgrade it"

During the women’s games last weekend they were using shots from the cameras over the goal lines on some replays. I only caught a couple of periods of the men’s games. Were they using those shots in the men’s games?

Yes. Great view of Rego’s wraparound goal on Saturday. I’m sure it was in the YouTube highlight videos.