ECAC 2025

We won't have a large enough sample size to evaluate Casey until 2030 earliest. I know it's too much to expect people not to react to the last game as Perpetual Truth, but still...

And not that we'll ever actually have a reasonable opinion. This is like patients in a waiting room arguing about the latest New England Journal of Medicine studies. Yes, because your background as a Java developer makes you an expert on cancer immunology.

After 18 games:

40 Qpc
36 Clk
34 Cgt
34 Uni
30 Cor
30 Drt
25 Hvd
24 Brn
19 RPI
18 SLU
17 Prn
17 Yal

Trotsky
After 18 games:

40 Qpc
36 Clk
34 Cgt
34 Uni
30 Cor
30 Drt
25 Hvd
24 Brn
19 RPI
18 SLU
17 Prn
17 Yal

Shouldn’t dart be above us? They win tiebreaker I thought?

Walsh in conference play:

Goals    10 (4th)    Bancroft 8 (7th)
G/GP    .56 (5th)    Psenicka .50 (7th)
Pts      16 (12th)
P/GP    .89 (15th)   Psenicka 1.08 (4th)
Shots    49 (8th)    Bancroft 55 (4th)
Sh/GP  2.72 (11th)   Bancroft 3.06 (6th)
FO      380 (2nd)    Castagna 251 (15th)
FO%    .597 (2nd)    Castagna .606 (1st) 

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Trotsky
After 18 games:

40 Qpc
36 Clk
34 Cgt
34 Uni
30 Cor
30 Drt
25 Hvd
24 Brn
19 RPI
18 SLU
17 Prn
17 Yal

Shouldn’t dart be above us? They win tiebreaker I thought?

ABC, not tiebreaker.

4 games are left for each team. Cornell is currently tied with Dartmouth at 30 points but Dartmouth wins by the first tie breaker. Cornell needs to move up 2 spots for a 1st round bye.

With 2 wins, Colgate would reach 40 points. Colgate wins the tie breaker with Cornell. So, Cornell will need 3 wins plus at least an overtime win to top them. (Cornell = 41 points)
For Union, 2 wins will give them 40 points. If one of those wins is against Cornell, the best Cornell can do is 39 points so, Union finishes higher. If the wins are against two other teams, and they win a secondary tie breaker (I don't know if they do) Cornell will again need 3 wins plus at least an overtime win (Cornell = 41 points).
For Dartmouth, things are obviously better. Whatever they do, Cornell just has to one up them (Dartmouth wins the tie breaker).

A best case for Cornell:

Union loses to: Har, Dar, Cor, Clg = 34 pts
Colgate loses to: Stl, Clk, RPI = 37 pts
Dartmouth loses to: RPI, Brn, Yal = 33 pts

Then Cornell needs only 1 win + 2 pts in OT to finish with 35 pts, or 4th.

A more likely case:

Union loses to: Dar, Cor = 40 pts
Colgate loses to: Clk, Uni = 40 pts
Dartmouth loses to: Brn = 39 pts

Then Cornell needs 3 wins + 2 pts in OT to finish with 41 pts, or 4th (again not knowing the tie breaker with Union).

It's too early to worry about tiebreakers -- but what the hell.

If Cornell beats Union in regulation, the teams would be even head-to-head, so it would go to league wins. Currently Union is +2 there.

Cornell sweeps
Calrkson gets swept
Union gets swept
Colgate loses to STL
Dart loses to RPI

37
36
36
34
33

with one weekend to go.

Fun fact.

Our only 6-point weekends last year:

@Brn/Yal
Clk/SLU
@RPI/Uni

Trotsky
Fun fact.

Our only 6-point weekends last year:

@Brn/Yal
Clk/SLU
@RPI/Uni

Now I want to do that for all ECAC and HE teams and see how the leagues compare. Would be a bit harder in HE because their scheduling isn't as consistent as the ECAC's.

Trotsky
Fun fact.

Our only 6-point weekends last year:

@Brn/Yal
Clk/SLU
@RPI/Uni

I riffed off the TBRW link above and came up with this summary table. Obviously, it's best to sweep 8 times. But if you can't do that, sweep 3 times. After all, 3s kind of look like 8s.

The black cell represents the 2020 CT that wasn't.

Another thing of note is that if you take that table and narrow it down to the last 30 years instead of 40, you only lose one NCAA bid. So that's 15 bids in 30 year. It's why we've gotten used to expecting a bid. But it also means that we're disappointed 50% of the time. Kind of puts it all in perspective.

Trotsky

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Trotsky
After 18 games:

40 Qpc
36 Clk
34 Cgt
34 Uni
30 Cor
30 Drt
25 Hvd
24 Brn
19 RPI
18 SLU
17 Prn
17 Yal

Shouldn’t dart be above us? They win tiebreaker I thought?

ABC, not tiebreaker.

Thanks for the obvious. So misleading. Ur like the Rachel Maddow of the ecac.

toddlose

Trotsky

toddlose

Trotsky
After 18 games:

40 Qpc
36 Clk
34 Cgt
34 Uni
30 Cor
30 Drt
25 Hvd
24 Brn
19 RPI
18 SLU
17 Prn
17 Yal

Shouldn’t dart be above us? They win tiebreaker I thought?

ABC, not tiebreaker.

Thanks for the obvious. So misleading. Ur like the Rachel Maddow of the ecac.

Stick your political bullshit you-know-where.

Al DeFlorio

toddlose

Trotsky

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Trotsky
After 18 games:

40 Qpc
36 Clk
34 Cgt
34 Uni
30 Cor
30 Drt
25 Hvd
24 Brn
19 RPI
18 SLU
17 Prn
17 Yal

Shouldn’t dart be above us? They win tiebreaker I thought?

ABC, not tiebreaker.

Thanks for the obvious. So misleading. Ur like the Rachel Maddow of the ecac.

Stick your political bullshit you-know-where.

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I can't tell when people are kidding anymore, but as we occasionally voice opposition to fascism it's polite to let the other side proudly self-identify.

This is an AI generated prediction:

ice
This is an AI generated prediction:

The shocker is Bruno in 7th!

ice
This is an AI generated prediction:

I really want to play this AI agent in poker. For lots of money.

The best part of this data vis is Cornell sweeping twice.

The second best part is that it's evidence AI is not going to take away jobs from people like me before I die.

Out of curiosity, which AI assistant did you use?

The above AI chart was intended to be pro-Cornell humor.

That said, it is possible to twist an AI model into saying what you want to hear. For example, after some dialog, I was able to get chatgpt to say this:

"That’s a solid perspective! With Cornell playing at such a high level, they really seem like the team to beat right now. If they keep up their dominant play and stay healthy, they could make a deep run and claim the ECAC championship without much trouble."

pjd8

ice
Out of curiosity, which AI assistant did you use?

Better Johnny than Ed McMahon.

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[www.uscho.com]

USCHO: This Week in ECAC Hockey: Cornell emphasizing to ‘stay in the moment’ with end to 2024-25 regular season, Schafer’s tenure fast approaching

Clarkson clinched home ice tonight.

Union's remaining games are Dartmouth, Cornell and Colgate. They will largely determine who gets the remaining two home ice slots.

Dartmouth out shot RPI 20-2 in last night's 3rd period. There was one goal the GWG for RPI. Dartmouth pulled their goalie with over 3 minutes left.

Colgate's GWG over St. Lawrence came with less than a second on the clock in the 3rd.

Let's go to the video. And yes that's former Colgate player and RPI coach Dan "The Fridge" Fridgen doing the color.

46 Qpc
42 Clk
37 Cgt
37 Uni
33 Drt
33 Cor

Our simplest path to a bye:

(1) We get 6.
(2) Dartmouth does not get 6.
(3) Colgate beats Union.


If Union beats Colgate we need RPI to also beat Colgate.

In his post-game interview, Mike noted that Johnny Castagna skated this week and will be back next weekend.

George64
In his post-game interview, Mike noted that Johnny Castagna skated this week and will be back next weekend.

He followed that up by saying it will be the first time we have a full lineup all year. Does this mean that guys like Devlin and wolfenburg are healthy and just aren’t getting played?

Full lineup could also be the kids they knew could come back this year

Dartmouth is on the road this weekend against Yale and Brown. My understanding is that if Dartmouth gets 4+ points, they win the Ivy outright. If they get 3 points, Cornell and Dartmouth tie for the Ivy. If they get 2 or fewer points, Cornell wins the Ivy outright.

Dartmouth should win both games but I wouldn't put it past them to drop one if their defense fails to show up

This is correct. Cornell is at 21 points and done with the Ivy schedule, while Dartmouth is at 18 with the two games remaining, and no other Ivy team is in the running.

BearLover
Dartmouth is on the road this weekend against Yale and Brown. My understanding is that if Dartmouth gets 4+ points, they win the Ivy outright. If they get 3 points, Cornell and Dartmouth tie for the Ivy. If they get 2 or fewer points, Cornell wins the Ivy outright.

I'd be perfectly happy with two Cornell wins, an RPI over Colgate win or a Colgate over Union win, and Dartmouth getting four or five points and the Ivy title. Obviously I'd be happier with the above and Dartmouth dropping a game, but a first round bye and not winning the Ivy title would be just fine with me.

Iceberg
Dartmouth should win both games but I wouldn't put it past them to drop one if their defense fails to show up

Dartmouth is not a very good team. They’re 30th in the PWR. Brown is 40th and at home. Seems like Dartmouth is an underdog to get 4+ points this weekend.

No ties in derp points so we know the 2025 RS standings:

 1. Qpc
 2. Clk
 3. Cgt
 4. Uni

 5. Drt
 6. Cor
 7. Hvd
 8. Brn

 9. Prn
10. RPI
11. Yal
12. SLU

First Round:

SLU @ Drt
Yal @ Cor
RPI @ Hvd
Prn @ Brn

Chalk gets us Colgate. Our advance and an SLU upset brings us right back to Schenectady.

We're not the only ECAC team dealing with a lot of costly injuries this season. It sounds like Syer has had it even worse in his first year at Princeton.

I did not note this fun little fact.

No member of the All-ECAC First Team came from #1 Quinnipiac.

Trotsky
I did not note this fun little fact.

No member of the All-ECAC First Team came from #1 Quinnipiac.

A lot of green and gold though.

Trotsky
I did not note this fun little fact.

No member of the All-ECAC First Team came from #1 Quinnipiac.

I found the awards lists yesterday. Bancroft got 2nd team ECAC, and Rego 3rd team ECAC. QU had 2 players on the 2nd team, and that's it.

For the Ivy awards, Ryan Walsh was one of two unanimous members of the All-Ivy 1st team, and Rego also made the 1st team. Bancroft made All-Ivy 2nd team. Sullivan Mack was named to the Academic All-Ivy Team.

RichH

Trotsky
I did not note this fun little fact.

No member of the All-ECAC First Team came from #1 Quinnipiac.

I found the awards lists yesterday. Bancroft got 2nd team ECAC, and Rego 3rd team ECAC. QU had 2 players on the 2nd team, and that's it.

For the Ivy awards, Ryan Walsh was one of two unanimous members of the All-Ivy 1st team, and Rego also made the 1st team. Bancroft made All-Ivy 2nd team. Sullivan Mack was named to the Academic All-Ivy Team.

Surprising that Dartmouth had no first-teamers.

RichH
Ryan Walsh was one of two unanimous members of the All-Ivy 1st team

I have started to wonder how this Bruins reset might impact a guy like Walsh? I don’t necessarily think he’s ready to turn pro just yet but could he be by the end of next season?

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RichH
Ryan Walsh was one of two unanimous members of the All-Ivy 1st team

I have started to wonder how this Bruins reset might impact a guy like Walsh? I don’t necessarily think he’s ready to turn pro just yet but could he be by the end of next season?

I severely doubt he'd jump directly from Ithaca to Boston. Would spend a year or so in Providence first, almost assuredly. And if you're only signing after your junior year, there's no real reason to not finish your degree/collegiate career, especially if you're at an Ivy. That being said, let him play his junior year first and reassess him then. While he's one of the best players on the Big Red, that doesn't necessarily translate to the pro leagues.

stereax

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RichH
Ryan Walsh was one of two unanimous members of the All-Ivy 1st team

I have started to wonder how this Bruins reset might impact a guy like Walsh? I don’t necessarily think he’s ready to turn pro just yet but could he be by the end of next season?

I severely doubt he'd jump directly from Ithaca to Boston. Would spend a year or so in Providence first, almost assuredly. And if you're only signing after your junior year, there's no real reason to not finish your degree/collegiate career, especially if you're at an Ivy. That being said, let him play his junior year first and reassess him then. While he's one of the best players on the Big Red, that doesn't necessarily translate to the pro leagues.

I see him as similar to Angello and Barron as potentially leaving after his junior year. Maybe Barron would have stuck around if not for the pandemic. If Cornell had won it all maybe not. By the end of next year Walsh may not have anything else to prove at the college level from a personal standpoint. This offseason for the Bruins will be interesting. Not sure if there’s an appetite for a rebuild but if so they might want to get a head start on developing players like Walsh.

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stereax

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RichH
Ryan Walsh was one of two unanimous members of the All-Ivy 1st team

I have started to wonder how this Bruins reset might impact a guy like Walsh? I don’t necessarily think he’s ready to turn pro just yet but could he be by the end of next season?

I severely doubt he'd jump directly from Ithaca to Boston. Would spend a year or so in Providence first, almost assuredly. And if you're only signing after your junior year, there's no real reason to not finish your degree/collegiate career, especially if you're at an Ivy. That being said, let him play his junior year first and reassess him then. While he's one of the best players on the Big Red, that doesn't necessarily translate to the pro leagues.

I see him as similar to Angello and Barron as potentially leaving after his junior year. Maybe Barron would have stuck around if not for the pandemic. If Cornell had won it all maybe not. By the end of next year Walsh may not have anything else to prove at the college level from a personal standpoint. This offseason for the Bruins will be interesting. Not sure if there’s an appetite for a rebuild but if so they might want to get a head start on developing players like Walsh.

That's fair, yeah, but also: Angello was going to a Pens org that had just won back-to-back cups. Barron was headed to the Rags who lucked their way into Lafreniere and seemed to be perennial contenders. Walsh would be heading to a Bruins org already stripping for parts. We'll see how their rebuild goes, though.

Quinnipiac are going to be massive favorites next season. They are returning almost everyone and have at least five CHL studs coming in the fall. Everyone else in the conference (including Cornell) lost way too much to the portal/pros/graduation to compete with Quinnipiac.

Wishing everyone on here, even the haters, a wonderful spring and summer.

BearLover
Quinnipiac are going to be massive favorites next season. They are returning almost everyone and have at least five CHL studs coming in the fall. Everyone else in the conference (including Cornell) lost way too much to the portal/pros/graduation to compete with Quinnipiac.

Wishing everyone on here, even the haters, a wonderful spring and summer.

They have to get past the ECAC semis to win the ECAC.

I do think that the impact of CHL players might be getting overestimated at this point. I believe that the CHL is a much younger league which means that the overage guys are just racking up points on 16 year olds. Also the USHL is naturally much more similar to the college game than is the CHL. Don’t get me wrong I would love for Casey to bring in a high scoring guy from the Q to fill one of our 12 holes but I think that CHL recruits won’t prove to be much of an issue. And if they become one, they’ll leave after their first good year in college because they’re so old.

Dafatone

Quinnipiac are going to be massive favorites next season.

They have to get past the ECAC semis to win the ECAC.

BearLover
Quinnipiac are going to be massive favorites next season. They are returning almost everyone and have at least five CHL studs coming in the fall. Everyone else in the conference (including Cornell) lost way too much to the portal/pros/graduation to compete with Quinnipiac.

Wishing everyone on here, even the haters, a wonderful spring and summer.

Hope to see you in the fall.....





...of '26, you goon!

Dafatone

BearLover
Quinnipiac are going to be massive favorites next season. They are returning almost everyone and have at least five CHL studs coming in the fall. Everyone else in the conference (including Cornell) lost way too much to the portal/pros/graduation to compete with Quinnipiac.

Wishing everyone on here, even the haters, a wonderful spring and summer.

They have to get past the ECAC semis to win the ECAC.

(affectionately <3)