ECAC 2025

ECAC went 4-6-1 this weekend. Cromulent.

Trotsky
ECAC went 4-6-1 this weekend. Cromulent.

The Eternally Cromulent Athletic Conference.

djk26

Trotsky
ECAC went 4-6-1 this weekend. Cromulent.

The Eternally Cromulent Athletic Conference.

Better than the Always Horrible Association.

Union kicked the ever loving Dutch out of RPI tonight in the conference opener.

Trotsky
Union kicked the ever loving Dutch out of RPI tonight in the conference opener.

Union had 9 power plays and scored on four of them.

Trotsky
Union kicked the ever loving Dutch out of RPI tonight in the conference opener.

Go Garnet Chargers, go!

Just has a great ring to it, eh?

dbilmes

Trotsky
Union kicked the ever loving Dutch out of RPI tonight in the conference opener.

Union had 9 power plays and scored on four of them.

RPI stormed back in the 2nd period scoring twice to tie the game after Union has two pp goals in the first.

That was until RPI's Caron committed a hit to the head 5 minute major. That resulted in a score in the 2nd and another in the 3rd making it 5-3. Onion also had an empty net goal.

Q looks mortal:

2-4 L Northeastern (exhibition)
3-2 W Penn State
1-2 L at Maine
5-6 L at Maine (ot)
8-2 W UNH
2-3 L UNH

Trotsky
Q looks mortal:

2-4 L Northeastern (exhibition)
3-2 W Penn State
1-2 L at Maine
5-6 L at Maine (ot)
8-2 W UNH
2-3 L UNH

I wouldn’t trust the early season results much, Union is 6-1 and they still don’t scare me in the slightest. Seems like Q has usually started slow in recent years anyway. ECAC is looking like it’s going to be decently stronger in the pairwise compared to last year which helps for the pairwise.

Union had two late goals to sweep RPI.

The only OOC bright spot tonight (besides us, I mean) was RPI edging Miami (OH) in OT. Clarkson lost to Alaska at home, SLU fell to Stonehill on the road, and Denver (unsurprisingly) crushed Yale. SLU is off tomorrow; otherwise, all of tonight’s OOC tilts repeat tomorrow night, so some opportunities for redemption/canceling out. Also Q visits Holy Cross.

I’d love to see us pick up the sweep tomorrow so that we have fewer PWR concerns down the road. Keep winning and it shouldn't matter.

Looks like Dartmouth found their next cooper black as some dude named roan Clarke had 37 saves on 38 shots vs Harvard. Should be fun if Dartmouth is actually good this year.

chimpfood
Looks like Dartmouth found their next cooper black as some dude named roan Clarke had 37 saves on 38 shots vs Harvard. Should be fun if Dartmouth is actually good this year.

Yes, but is he 6’11” and 395 lbs?

RichH

chimpfood
Looks like Dartmouth found their next cooper black as some dude named roan Clarke had 37 saves on 38 shots vs Harvard. Should be fun if Dartmouth is actually good this year.

Yes, but is he 6’11” and 395 lbs?

The worst thing about this joke is I recall looking up Cooper Black last year and realizing that at 6-8 he was still lighter than I.

Ian Shane will be on Hockey on Campus on SiriusXM

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jts15
Ian Shane will be on Hockey on Campus on SiriusXM

[x.com]

Is there a way to listen online?

sure if you have xm

Bruno get their first win at Cheel, scoring with under 1 second on the clock. Clarkson took icing with under 10 seconds to set it up. Worth a watch for the schadenfreude.

RichH
Bruno get their first win at Cheel, scoring with under 1 second on the clock. Clarkson took icing with under 10 seconds to set it up. Worth a watch for the schadenfreude.

The clip.

Trotsky

RichH
Bruno get their first win at Cheel, scoring with under 1 second on the clock. Clarkson took icing with under 10 seconds to set it up. Worth a watch for the schadenfreude.

The clip.

And of course the inevitable, interminable review afterwards when it was obviously a good goal.

Scersk '97

Trotsky

RichH
Bruno get their first win at Cheel, scoring with under 1 second on the clock. Clarkson took icing with under 10 seconds to set it up. Worth a watch for the schadenfreude.

The clip.

And of course the inevitable, interminable review afterwards when it was obviously a good goal.

Two reviews. One, I guess, was an official’s review for interference and then Clarkson challenged for a high stick. The end result was that Brown got a 0.5 second power play and failed to score, adding to their 0% PP.

RichH

Scersk '97
And of course the inevitable, interminable review afterwards when it was obviously a good goal.

Two reviews. One, I guess, was an official’s review for interference and then Clarkson challenged for a high stick. The end result was that Brown got a 0.5 second power play and failed to score, adding to their 0% PP.

I know that I’m an old fuddy-duddy, but maybe all these reviews aren’t a good thing?

Saps the joy out of things. I kind of wish that officials would say, more often, “Nah, we’re good.”

Scersk '97

RichH

Scersk '97
And of course the inevitable, interminable review afterwards when it was obviously a good goal.

Two reviews. One, I guess, was an official’s review for interference and then Clarkson challenged for a high stick. The end result was that Brown got a 0.5 second power play and failed to score, adding to their 0% PP.

I know that I’m an old fuddy-duddy, but maybe all these reviews aren’t a good thing?

Saps the joy out of things. I kind of wish that officials would say, more often, “Nah, we’re good.”

Like an 8-minute stoppage in the national semifinal to see if any angle revealed the precise height of a stick thus sapping one team of any gathering momentum?

RichH

Scersk '97

RichH

Scersk '97
And of course the inevitable, interminable review afterwards when it was obviously a good goal.

Two reviews. One, I guess, was an official’s review for interference and then Clarkson challenged for a high stick. The end result was that Brown got a 0.5 second power play and failed to score, adding to their 0% PP.

I know that I’m an old fuddy-duddy, but maybe all these reviews aren’t a good thing?

Saps the joy out of things. I kind of wish that officials would say, more often, “Nah, we’re good.”

Like an 8-minute stoppage in the national semifinal to see if any angle revealed the precise height of a stick thus sapping one team of any gathering momentum?

That never happened.

Scersk '97

RichH

Scersk '97
And of course the inevitable, interminable review afterwards when it was obviously a good goal.

Two reviews. One, I guess, was an official’s review for interference and then Clarkson challenged for a high stick. The end result was that Brown got a 0.5 second power play and failed to score, adding to their 0% PP.

I know that I’m an old fuddy-duddy, but maybe all these reviews aren’t a good thing?

Saps the joy out of things. I kind of wish that officials would say, more often, “Nah, we’re good.”

Agreed.

I would go further and not show replays during the game. You saw it or you didn't. Pay attention. Be in the moment.

And all noises piped into the stadium to punctuate an event should be silenced. They obscure reality and overlay the same boring wrapper. We don't watch a game anymore. We watch something being overprocessed by a machine that also lives partially in our heads.

RichH

Scersk '97

Trotsky

RichH
Bruno get their first win at Cheel, scoring with under 1 second on the clock. Clarkson took icing with under 10 seconds to set it up. Worth a watch for the schadenfreude.

The clip.

And of course the inevitable, interminable review afterwards when it was obviously a good goal.

Two reviews. One, I guess, was an official’s review for interference and then Clarkson challenged for a high stick. The end result was that Brown got a 0.5 second power play and failed to score, adding to their 0% PP.

I'm wondering if Clarkson can challenge twice on the sequence scoring the goal.

Once for goaltender interference. Losing their time out.

Then for a high stick taking a penalty when they lost that argument.

Didn't the announcers indicate that Clarkson was down a man for the last half second?

Perpetual emotion.

RichH
Bruno get their first win at Cheel, scoring with under 1 second on the clock. Clarkson took icing with under 10 seconds to set it up. Worth a watch for the schadenfreude.

First win ever at Cheel? That's nuts considering how long and often they've played each other since Cheel opened. Then again, Yale can never seem to win games against Q, so such occurrences are not out of the realm of possibility in the conference I guess

Iceberg

RichH
Bruno get their first win at Cheel, scoring with under 1 second on the clock. Clarkson took icing with under 10 seconds to set it up. Worth a watch for the schadenfreude.

First win ever at Cheel? That's nuts considering how long and often they've played each other since Cheel opened. Then again, Yale can never seem to win games against Q, so such occurrences are not out of the realm of possibility in the conference I guess

Surely not. First win of the season.

I thought when you challenged the entire play can be revieweD?

upprdeck
I thought when you challenged the entire play can be revieweD?

That would make sense but...

Iceberg

RichH
Bruno get their first win at Cheel, scoring with under 1 second on the clock. Clarkson took icing with under 10 seconds to set it up. Worth a watch for the schadenfreude.

First win ever at Cheel? That's nuts considering how long and often they've played each other since Cheel opened. Then again, Yale can never seem to win games against Q, so such occurrences are not out of the realm of possibility in the conference I guess

Brown won their prior game at Cheel as well, in January.

Quite a number of OOC games this weekend against some higher ranked teams. It would be nice if the conference came out of it in a good spot although I'm not holding my breath after Colgate failed to do anything at Penn State earlier in the week

Iceberg
Quite a number of OOC games this weekend against some higher ranked teams. It would be nice if the conference came out of it in a good spot although I'm not holding my breath after Colgate failed to do anything at Penn State earlier in the week

Doesn’t bode well that we put up 16 SOG at home and lost to Quinnipiac, then Colgate held Quinnipiac to 14 SOG in regulation the following night, then Colgate got very badly outshot and lost to PSU by a combined score of 10-3 over two games that PSU entered as 48th in the PWR.

Harvard down 3-0 in Belfast and the 1st period isn't even over. Typical

Iceberg
Harvard down 3-0 in Belfast and the 1st period isn't even over. Typical

Meanwhile, I just checked the stats and Dartmouth has by far the highest team shooting % in the country, at 17.0%. That suggests they’ve been very lucky so far this season. Watching the Cornell game, I definitely believe this to be true. They didn’t look particularly good, and it took multiple horrible lapses by Cornell for Dartmouth to win. Despite early returns we could be headed for another rough year for the ECAC. Not liking our position in the PWR right now. We need to start winning at a very high clip.

Iceberg
Harvard down 3-0 in Belfast and the 1st period isn't even over. Typical

Against all expectations, they have put down their gin fizzes and ceased interfering with their maids long enough to fight back to 3-2.

Oligarchs with grit? How very European.

Teddy decided to pull his starter Koskenvuo after the first and that seems to have made a difference. He might keep going with this backup for a while considering that Koskenvuo hasn't looked good for several weekends now anyway

SLU goes down a man after challenging with no timeouts. It always feels like this league is disgustingly incompetent in non conference games.

Harvard loses 5-2, but Dartmouth leads at BC after the first period.

Per the DKs, we've got a bigger problem now.

Princeton up 2-0 on Ohio State after two periods.

Dartmouth up 2-1 after 2 periods. This is my first time really seeing BC this year and they have some very big, talented forwards and a very effective forecheck. Defensively, their back-end personnel are nothing special and the two goals against are a result of turnovers that led to successful counterattacks although Fowler seems to be the real deal. Dartmouth has actually played well enough to slow down BC (very good coaching) but they're a noticeably slower team, have failed to make some uncontested passes, and have a made few baffling decisions in their own zone that resulted in BC opportunities.

BC destroyed Dartmouth in the 3d. Took a 3-2 lead, then Dartmouth got a late power play and turned the punk over a son as they pulled their goalie to go down 4-2..
but scored am EAG as I was typing to close the gap to 4-3 with 1:19 to go.

ugarte
BC destroyed Dartmouth in the 3d. Took a 3-2 lead, then Dartmouth got a late power play and turned the punk over a son as they pulled their goalie to go down 4-2..
but scored am EAG as I was typing to close the gap to 4-3 with 1:19 to go.

Damn near tied it up but BC got another ENG to seal it

Yeah, that was a tight game and good on Dartmouth for keeping it close. BC is a very good team but I'm not so sure they're good enough to be #1 overall. That has to be because of the strength of HEA this year

Iceberg
Yeah, that was a tight game and good on Dartmouth for keeping it close. BC is a very good team but I'm not so sure they're good enough to be #1 overall. That has to be because of the strength of HEA this year

The third period was the first time Dartmouth talked all year.

Clarkson and Providence headed to OT in Lake Placid. PC literally has a guy on their team named "Mustard". It's too bad PC is never at Lynah because I could only imagine how that would go

Clarkson loses to providence in OT, Yale loses to LIU, UND down to bemidji, ew.

Still a lot of season left, but the way things are looking, the ECAC could very well be a one-bid league for the NCAA's. The talent disparity with other conferences seems to be significant this year although the past few seasons after the pandemic haven't been encouraging in general.

Poor night overall. Good effort by Dartmouth and a very nice win by Princeton.

Union 4 at Niagara 2
Princeton 3 ¹²Ohio State 1

Brown 1 Air Force 1 (ot)

SLU 0 vs ¹⁶Lowell 2 (Lake Placid)
Harvard 2 vs Notre Dame 5 (under a blood red sky)
¹⁵Dartmouth 3 at ⁴BC 5
²⁰Clarkson 2 vs ¹⁰Providence 3 (ot) (Lake Placid)
Yale 2 at LIU 3

Took me a while to figure out what you were doing with the isotope numbers.

Trotsky
Poor night overall. Good effort by Dartmouth and a very nice win by Princeton.

Union 4 at Niagara 2
Princeton 3 ¹²Ohio State 1

Brown 1 Air Force 1 (ot)

SLU 0 vs ¹⁶Lowell 2 (Lake Placid)
Harvard 2 vs Notre Dame 5 (under a blood red sky)
¹⁵Dartmouth 3 at ⁴BC 5
²⁰Clarkson 2 vs ¹⁰Providence 3 (ot) (Lake Placid)
Yale 2 at LIU 3

Assuming that the upper-left numbers are rankings, it isn't bad since three of the losses are to higher ranked teams and one win was over a higher ranked team.

Iceberg
Yeah, that was a tight game and good on Dartmouth for keeping it close. BC is a very good team but I'm not so sure they're good enough to be #1 overall. That has to be because of the strength of HEA this year

BC is a perfect 36-for-36 on the penalty kill to start the season.

dbilmes

Iceberg
Yeah, that was a tight game and good on Dartmouth for keeping it close. BC is a very good team but I'm not so sure they're good enough to be #1 overall. That has to be because of the strength of HEA this year

BC is a perfect 36-for-36 on the penalty kill to start the season.

Excellent goalie and great team speed to close gaps

Princeton sweeps Ohio State. That should help Cornell significantly in the pairwise I would think

Iceberg
Princeton sweeps Ohio State. That should help Cornell significantly in the pairwise I would think

Looks like P scored on three of its four shots in thr third to win 3-1. And scored a shg while it killed a major that also looks like it started 5x3? The same player took a minor and a major and a game misconduct at the same stoppage.

Chris '03

Iceberg
Princeton sweeps Ohio State. That should help Cornell significantly in the pairwise I would think

Looks like P scored on three of its four shots in thr third to win 3-1. And scored a shg while it killed a major that also looks like it started 5x3? The same player took a minor and a major and a game misconduct at the same stoppage.

Yes, the Princeton player (in his offensive zone) basically drove the OSU player into the boards for the heck of it. They were tangled together and then the Princeton player took it too far and got a boarding major followed by a consecutive holding minor. Definitely one of the dumbest penalties I've seen this year but the OSU player was at least able to return to the game. The SHG was off a clean breakaway that resulted from OSU fumbling the puck at their offensive blue line.

The Dartmouth game at Gutterson is interesting enough to be a worth a look at 4.

Gotta beat Seahawks-Jets.

Dartmouth is such a poor skating team compared to Cornell but the record speaks for itself. Really a shame that game in Hanover went the other way a few weeks ago.

Iceberg
Dartmouth is such a poor skating team compared to Cornell but the record speaks for itself. Really a shame that game in Hanover went the other way a few weeks ago.

Cornell lost that game, Dartmouth didn’t win it.

BearLover

Iceberg
Dartmouth is such a poor skating team compared to Cornell but the record speaks for itself. Really a shame that game in Hanover went the other way a few weeks ago.

Cornell lost that game, Dartmouth didn’t win it.

No disagreement there.

Speaking of Dartmouth, they did win 3-1. UVM looks like they would be a mid-tier ECAC team at best. Given their track record the past two decades in HEA, I'm not really sure being in the conference has helped them all that much.

I'd trade them back for Q in a heartbeat.

RPI held Maine close until the third and then Bad Things Happened.

Dartmouth ties UNH and Union gets clobbered by Vermont. Poor OOC play continues

At least UND is about to get a big W

chimpfood
At least UND is about to get a big W

That'll at least pacify the folks on their forum. I think they're even more annoyed with Cornell's play than we are because of UND's pairwise position

Iceberg

chimpfood
At least UND is about to get a big W

That'll at least pacify the folks on their forum. I think they're even more annoyed with Cornell's play than we are because of UND's pairwise position

LMFAO, I didn't know that was possible...

Cornell fans suck but NoDak and Minny fans are in another tax bracket of fan entitlement. They are monsters.

Iceberg
Dartmouth ties UNH and Union gets clobbered by Vermont. Poor OOC play continues

Dartmouth hit the crossbar twice in the third period, although UNH had the better of play and failed to score on a breakaway in OT. There wasn't a single penalty called in the game.

Union coughs one up to UVM in the final 3 minutes. Poopie.

RPI ties Merseyhurst - 64th ranked Mercyhurst.

OOC helped a bit last night. North Dakota won again and Northeastern and Wisconsin lost. We are up to 23.

marty
RPI ties Merseyhurst - 64th ranked Mercyhurst.

RPI did beat Mercyhurst handily tonight, though, 5-2.

Yale beat Union tonight and unfortunately that is relevant and helpful for us as Union is ahead in conference .571 > .458

Trotsky
Yale beat Union tonight and unfortunately that is relevant and helpful for us as Union is ahead in conference .571 > .458

Union beat Yale, 4-3.
There was an unusual play late in the third period with the score tied. With the teams playing 4-on-4, a Yale player broke his stick in the defensive zone, but couldn't get off the ice since the puck was still in the defensive zone. A few seconds later a Union player was skating backwards away from the goal and the stickless Yale player used both arms to push him from behind, knocking him to the ice. He was called for a 2-minute penalty for hitting from behind. That negated what would have been an upcoming power play for Yale. Instead, still skating 4-on-4, Union scored the winning goal 35 seconds later, giving it a road sweep in southern New England (Union beat Brown Friday night).

dbilmes

Trotsky
Yale beat Union tonight and unfortunately that is relevant and helpful for us as Union is ahead in conference .571 > .458

Union beat Yale, 4-3.

Yeah, sorry, CHN (I think) done me wrong.

There have been 3 full seasons with Derp Points. Here are the 4th place teams' DP in each:

'22 39 Cornell (12-6-4)
'23 37 St. Lawrence (12-10-0)
'24 37 Dartmouth (9-6-7)

Cornell is currently 21 DP (5-5-4) with 8 games to play. That is 24 possible points. Let's assume 16 is the Mendoza line for getting to 4th. To simplify, that's 5 regulation wins and another point, say a shoot out loss to make the record simple. 5-2-1.

We face 5 awful teams: RPI, @ Brn, @Yal, SLU, @ RPI. I think we need to go at least 4-1-0 in those 5 (12 DP),leaving us a slight margin of error with our 3 games against good teams: Uni, Clk, @ Uni against whom we could afford to go 1-1-1.

We have played 5 awful teams already this year: Yal (1), Brn (3), Prn (3), @ Prn (3), @SLU (0). 3-1-1, 10 DP. So... not looking great.

Of course if we get stronger as we go with everyone returning if won't matter, since by the time we hit the post-season we'll run a quick 9 and skate it off.

Trotsky
There have been 3 full seasons with Derp Points. Here are the 4th place teams' DP in each:

'22 39 Cornell (12-6-4)
'23 37 St. Lawrence (12-10-0)
'24 37 Dartmouth (9-6-7)

Cornell is currently 21 DP (5-4-4) with 8 games to play. That is 24 possible points. Let's assume 16 is the Mendoza line for getting to 4th. To simplify, that's 5 wins and another point, let's say a shoot out loss to make the record simple. 5-2-1.

We face 5 awful teams: RPI, @ Brn, @Yal, SLU, @ RPI. I think we need to go at least 4-1-0 in those 5 (12 DP),leaving us a slight margin of error with our 3 games against good teams: Uni, Clk, @ Uni against whom we could afford to go 1-1-1.

We have played 5 awful teams already this year: Yal (1), Brn (3), Prn (3), @ Prn (3), @SLU (0). 3-1-1, 10 DP. So... not looking great.

Of course if we get stronger as we go with everyone returning if won't matter, since by the time we hit the post-season we'll run a quick 9 and skate it off.

Don’t assume anything. We’ve firmly established we can lose to anyone. We have exactly zero wins this year against any team currently in the tournament. We play five “awful” teams, two of whom we’ve already lost to.

We could as easily go 0-8 down the stretch. Veterans of 1987 and 1993 know that well.

As a New Orleans Saints fan I started the season thinking about our easy upcoming schedule and by the halfway point I realized that's what people were thinking when they saw we were their next opponent.

I’m optimistic but we need to move up soon. RPI and union never scare me no matter how high they are in the pairwise on any given year. Any brown vs Yale weekend should be at least 5 points and a split with clarkson/slu at home would be fine but I’m hopeful for a sweep that weekend. But yeah we also should have easily won the sacred heart series, beat slu this weekend, etc so nothing is set until we do it.

The hope is with a healthy squad past performance is no guarantee of future results.

chimpfood
I’m optimistic but we need to...

Infectious Earworm of the 70's

Yes!

Four weekends remain in the ECAC regular season, 14 games played, 8 to play (except Harvard and Dartmouth have played 15). Cornell stands 7th with 21 points, 6 points behind third/fourth place Dartmouth and Union with 26 points. I can still see Cornell finishing fourth and maybe third.

If the Pairwise Ranking is a predictor ...

PWR rankings after 2/1/25 games
Rank Team       PWR  Cor-Yet-To-Play
12   Quinnipiac 52
21   Colgate    43
23   Dartmouth  41
25   Cornell    39
30   Clarkson   33    2/21
36   Princeton  28
40   Union      24    2/8 @2/28
43   Harvard    21   
45   Brown      20   @2/14
47   Rensselaer 16    2/7 @3/1
54   Yale       10   @2/15
55   St Lawrence 8   @2/22

... that we will beat teams below us and lose to teams above us, then we will pick up 24 of a possible 24 points. In theory. We are done playing teams above us in PWR. The ECAC team to play just below us in PWR is Clarkson and we've got them at home. Between us and a first-round bye:

6. Harvard, 22 points to Cornell's 21. We should pass Harvard in points. The Cantabrigians are 1 point ahead of Cornell but with one extra game played with Union and Clarkson among their final games. That moves us to 6th place. Plus they're about to have a bad night vs. #1 BC in the Beanpot tonight.
5. Clarkson, 25 points. Killer closing schedule, they play 3 of the top 4 teams, Quinnipiac twice, plus us. Put us in 5th.
T4. Union, 26 points. 2 games each with Colgate and Cornell, plus Quinnipiac on home ice. That gets us to 4th and a first round bye.
T4. Dartmouth, 26 points. Same deal as Harvard, one less game to play than the rest of the league, and their toughest teams left being Union-Clarkson.

Sprinkle fairy dust and we could get to a third-place RS finish. Although it's not clear if the RS title goes to Q (curently first by a point) or Colgate (second), and if we advance to LP, which we would prefer to avoid Friday night in Lake Placid. If, if and if. It would be nice to see the Friday pairings of Quinnipiac-Clarkson and Cornell-Colgate. A North Country team always helps the gate, ditto Finger Lakes teams. Plus you got Q.

I forgot who starts or ends his post thusly but to borrow the words: So prove me wrong.

At this point I am hoping for a repeat of 1980.

An underperforming Cornell team finished 8th and then won the ECACs.

That team also lost two regular season games to Dartmouth, then went on to beat the Big Green in the ECAC final, before losing to them in the NCAA consolation game.

1-3 vs. one of the few good Dartmouth teams in the last 50 years...but winning the one game that really mattered.

nshapiro
At this point I am hoping for a repeat of 1980.

An underperforming Cornell team finished 8th and then won the ECACs.

That team also lost two regular season games to Dartmouth, then went on to beat the Big Green in the ECAC final, before losing to them in the NCAA consolation game.

1-3 vs. one of the few good Dartmouth teams in the last 50 years...but winning the one game that really mattered.

Consolation game was a waste of time and disappeared.

Al DeFlorio

Consolation game was a waste of time and disappeared.[/quote]

Didn't they need the consolation game win in Atlantic City in 2012 to make the NCAA tournament?

VIEWfromK

Al DeFlorio

Consolation game was a waste of time and disappeared.

Didn't they need the consolation game win in Atlantic City in 2012 to make the NCAA tournament?[/quote]

Yes, against Colgate. That whole AC scene was weird.

VIEWfromK

Al DeFlorio

Consolation game was a waste of time and disappeared.

Didn't they need the consolation game win in Atlantic City in 2012 to make the NCAA tournament?[/quote]
nshapiro was referring to the NCAA final four consolation game, a meaningless affair that has blessedly gone away.

nshapiro
At this point I am hoping for a repeat of 1980.

An underperforming Cornell team finished 8th and then won the ECACs.

That team also lost two regular season games to Dartmouth, then went on to beat the Big Green in the ECAC final, before losing to them in the NCAA consolation game.

1-3 vs. one of the few good Dartmouth teams in the last 50 years...but winning the one game that really mattered.

Although not a bad thought, they can't do it exactly the 1980 way. Back then the tournament teams were not reseeded after each round,

So as #8 we played, and beat, #1 BC away. Then #2 Providence @ the Garden. Finally #3 Dartmouth.

It was fun, but probably won't ever happen again.

Jim Hyla
Although not a bad thought, they can't do it exactly the 1980 way. Back then the tournament teams were not reseeded after each round,

So as #8 we played, and beat, #1 BC away. Then #2 Providence @ the Garden. Finally #3 Dartmouth.

It was fun, but probably won't ever happen again.

On the contrary, with reseeding it's probably exactly what would happen.

Trotsky

Jim Hyla
Although not a bad thought, they can't do it exactly the 1980 way. Back then the tournament teams were not reseeded after each round,

So as #8 we played, and beat, #1 BC away. Then #2 Providence @ the Garden. Finally #3 Dartmouth.

It was fun, but probably won't ever happen again.

On the contrary, with reseeding it's probably exactly what would happen.

You are exactly right!

Six games left, 18 points possible, Cornell in sixth place needs to pick up 7 points relative to fourth place Clarkson or 8 points relative to third-place Union to get a first-round bye then home seeding for the quarterfinal round. It seemed a less challenging task a week ago with eight games to play.

What's possible? If the pairwise ranking is definitive (if), Cornell at 32 PWR will beat all except Clarkson, though Union looked really tough Saturday night. We may get help from Quinnipiac, which has games left vs. Union, and from a Dartmouth-Union game. But at some point we're playing if, if and if.

32  Cornell PWR 
---------------
43  @Brown 
54  @Yale
27  Clarkson
55  St. Lawrence
35  @Union
58  @RPI 

In another example of parity in the league, I watched the end of the Princeton-SLU game. Princeton was up by two goals with 8 minutes to go, and it looked like the had the game in hand overall. Then SLU put in a really solid effort and won the game in a shootout. Princeton isn't great, but I watched their games against UNH and while they lost those, they put in solid efforts. They are quite capable of playing the spoiler, as is SLU.

For the last first-round ECAC bye, it really comes down to three teams:

Clarkson 30 pts
Dartmouth 29 pts
Cornell 24 pts

Remaining schedule:

Clarkson: Dar, Har, Cor, Col, Q, Pri
Dartmouth: Clk, SLU, RPI, Un, Br, Y
Cornell: Br, Y, Clk, SLU, Un, RPI

Clarkson has the toughest schedule.

Let's suppose wins shake out thusly:

Clarkson beats Dar, Har, Pri
Dartmouth beats SLU, RPI, Br, Y
Cornell beats Br, Y, Clk, SLU, RPI

That puts the points at:

Clarkson 39 pts
Dartmouth 41 pts
Cornell 39 pts

The above assumes us sweeping Clarkson, so we win the tiebreaker and end up fifth.

While we don't have the consistency to sweep our last six, if we win five, including Clarkson, and get lucky with Dartmouth dropping a should-win game, we could back into fourth.

Quite frankly, if Clarkson drops the Princeton game, and Dartmouth drops to SLU, we'd get there without the tiebreaker:

Clarkson 36 pts
Dartmouth 38 pts
Cornell 39 pts

Things that make this plausible:

1. Clarkson beat Dartmouth in December, and it was in Hanover, so the second game is a homer for the Knights.
2. The Clarkson-Princeton game is in Hobey Baker. That's a long bus ride, especially when you have to get there via Connecticut.
3. SLU won in Hanover earlier this season.

And now that I look at Union's remaining schedule (Q, Pri, Har, Dar, Cor, Col), it's not inconceivable that they go into a tailspin. I leave the mathematical implications of such as an exercise for the reader.

I'm not saying any of this is likely, but I am saying I'll keep watching, just in case I'm pleasantly surprised. Pleasant surprises are the best part about being a sports fan.

Na ga da.

We can't put together a solid weekend.

This year will be about trying to have a dream PS run. We will be great again someday, perhaps even soon, but this year is a year to hide in the weeds and sink our fangs into some poor sucker who believes our record. Which... well... they kinda should.

Yeah honestly this year is not much in the grand scheme of things but we are in a very scary spot right now with a coaching change, the chl change, and other rule changes looming. This is the type of situations that programs fall apart in and never get back to prominence. I want the best for this year but if we can stay relevant in the future that’s even more important.

chimpfood
Yeah honestly this year is not much in the grand scheme of things but we are in a very scary spot right now with a coaching change, the chl change, and other rule changes looming. This is the type of situations that programs fall apart in and never get back to prominence. I want the best for this year but if we can stay relevant in the future that’s even more important.

Just looking at who Clarkson and Quinnipiac have been recruiting from the CHL, seems they are going to improve from the change more than we are. I don’t know if it’s these schools’ lack of academic standards or what, but we haven’t gotten any of the high scoring players aging out of the CHL, whereas Clarkson and Quinnipiac each already have at least four coming next year. Also, next year’s goalie situation looks extremely iffy, and the jury is very much still out on Casey. So we’ll see what happens, but decent chance of more mediocrity in our future. This year has stunk so badly that’s it’s really soured me on our trajectory.

BearLover
[blah blah blah] next year’s goalie situation looks extremely iffy, and the jury is very much still out on Casey. So we’ll see what happens, but decent chance of more mediocrity in our future [repeat chorus]

Does the Lover family tree trace back to Chicken Little? Geez, man, give the new guy a chance.

billhoward

BearLover
[blah blah blah] next year’s goalie situation looks extremely iffy, and the jury is very much still out on Casey. So we’ll see what happens, but decent chance of more mediocrity in our future [repeat chorus]

Does the Lover family tree trace back to Chicken Little? Geez, man, give the new guy a chance.

Especially since he's not even the head coach yet!

Interesting that on the Recruits thread people are talking about what a good recruiter he is.

Which Adam relates has always been true.

You don't need to tell that to any who remember when he was here before.

Jim Hyla

billhoward

BearLover
[blah blah blah] next year’s goalie situation looks extremely iffy, and the jury is very much still out on Casey. So we’ll see what happens, but decent chance of more mediocrity in our future [repeat chorus]

Does the Lover family tree trace back to Chicken Little? Geez, man, give the new guy a chance.

Especially since he's not even the head coach yet!

Interesting that on the Recruits thread people are talking about what a good recruiter he is.

Which Adam relates has always been true.

You don't need to tell that to any who remember when he was here before.

Wasn't he the Nanaimo Clippers pipeline?

billhoward

BearLover
[blah blah blah] next year’s goalie situation looks extremely iffy, and the jury is very much still out on Casey. So we’ll see what happens, but decent chance of more mediocrity in our future [repeat chorus]

Does the Lover family tree trace back to Chicken Little? Geez, man, give the new guy a chance.

Isn’t that kind of what “the jury is still out” means?