Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025

Clarkson on pp, 1-1.

Tip by Martino, pretty nice

Harvard just trying to get to OT it seems

Yes, Clarkson much better...

Pretty much all Clarkson since their goal.

OT in Clarkson vs Sucks

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Trotsky
Pretty much all Clarkson since their goal.

they look so much better and still Harvard almost ended their season on a nice individual effort with just over a minute left in the third.

Clarkson scores

We get Q-Pak

Clarkson wins in OT on what was basically a broken play. Cornell vs. Q next weekend

And Clarkson gets the game winner, Under review now.

Clarkson with the win. We get Q.

Snowball
Clarkson scores

Seemed inevitable. Clarkson dominated the game.

Snowball
Clarkson scores

half scramble drill, half being where you are supposed to be and that may have been the easiest tap-in of that guy's life.

And Harvard still sucks.

tbh i found the length of that review gross. looked like an easy call.

Chris H82
Clarkson with the win. We get Q.

How do we feel about Q, genuinely?
And Harvard still sucks. God bless.

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Chris H82
Clarkson with the win. We get Q.

How do we feel about Q, genuinely?
And Harvard still sucks. God bless.

We tied them twice and lost by one goal. Certainly a talented and well coached team, but not an impossible hill to climb.

CHN has us at 7:30 for the second game.

If correct, that's nice for our fans, but surprises me. Would think that Q would want the early game.

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Chris H82
Clarkson with the win. We get Q.

How do we feel about Q, genuinely?
And Harvard still sucks. God bless.

better than us but beatable! this is not the best team rand has put on the ice. no result in lake placid would be that big a surprise.

scoop85

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Chris H82
Clarkson with the win. We get Q.

How do we feel about Q, genuinely?
And Harvard still sucks. God bless.

We tied them twice and lost by one goal. Certainly a talented and well coached team, but not an impossible hill to climb.

Alright. Feelin' a little better about it.
Also, my BU friend says the Cornell-Q game might decide Michigan's fate, as they're 14th in pairwise, and if we win, Q gets an at-large bid and they drop out due to autobids from the shit conferences (CCHA and AHA). From what I understood, anyway.

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scoop85

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Chris H82
Clarkson with the win. We get Q.

How do we feel about Q, genuinely?
And Harvard still sucks. God bless.

We tied them twice and lost by one goal. Certainly a talented and well coached team, but not an impossible hill to climb.

Alright. Feelin' a little better about it.
Also, my BU friend says the Cornell-Q game might decide Michigan's fate, as they're 14th in pairwise, and if we win, Q gets an at-large bid and they drop out due to autobids from the shit conferences (CCHA and AHA). From what I understood, anyway.

Q losing to Cornell doesn't drop Q below, Michigan. and Michigan is done in the Big 10 so they can't improve their fate. They are almost certainly done for the season (barring some unexpected RPI math).

Atlantic Hockey and CCHA will take two bids from the top 16. And the ECAC, HE and NCHC all still have spoilers in their tournaments as well. A Q bid is not a certainty.

Congrats to the Quinnipiac fans on this forum for getting the matchup they wanted. Now we have a game we are around 40% to win instead of one we are around 60% to win. Hope for the best I suppose.

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Chris H82
Clarkson with the win. We get Q.

How do we feel about Q, genuinely?
And Harvard still sucks. God bless.

We tied them twice and lost by one goal. Certainly a talented and well coached team, but not an impossible hill to climb.

Alright. Feelin' a little better about it.
Also, my BU friend says the Cornell-Q game might decide Michigan's fate, as they're 14th in pairwise, and if we win, Q gets an at-large bid and they drop out due to autobids from the shit conferences (CCHA and AHA). From what I understood, anyway.

Careful how you say it. Minnesota State is #16 and could move to 15 or maybe even 14 (I doubt).

BearLover
Congrats to the Quinnipiac fans on this forum for getting the matchup they wanted. Now we have a game we are around 40% to win instead of one we are around 60% to win. Hope for the best I suppose.

You need to stop taking the pro-Q posts literally. They are the equivalent of the guy with a We Want Duke at the America East championship game.

imafrshmn
The hockey gods have made it clear: we must root for Harvard today.

From experience, 100% of the time this is the case, they never come through. They always lose when it hurts us. Harvard sucks.

ugarte

BearLover
Congrats to the Quinnipiac fans on this forum for getting the matchup they wanted. Now we have a game we are around 40% to win instead of one we are around 60% to win. Hope for the best I suppose.

You need to stop taking the pro-Q posts literally. They are the equivalent of the guy with a We Want Duke at the America East championship game.

What he really should do is find a way to think positively about others. I don't have stats, but the general tenor seems to posting negatively 75-90% of the time.

For me finding something nice is much more satisfying than being negative.

I'm not saying he was one of them, as I'm too lazy to look, but whenever I see negative posts I think back upon all those who said Schafer could never change his style and basically we were doomed if we didn't get rid of him. Well these teams are nothing like 10 years ago and I can't find an ECAC coach that I'd rather have had.

Naysayers be damned.

pjd8

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Chris H82
Clarkson with the win. We get Q.

How do we feel about Q, genuinely?
And Harvard still sucks. God bless.

We tied them twice and lost by one goal. Certainly a talented and well coached team, but not an impossible hill to climb.

Alright. Feelin' a little better about it.
Also, my BU friend says the Cornell-Q game might decide Michigan's fate, as they're 14th in pairwise, and if we win, Q gets an at-large bid and they drop out due to autobids from the shit conferences (CCHA and AHA). From what I understood, anyway.

Q losing to Cornell doesn't drop Q below, Michigan. and Michigan is done in the Big 10 so they can't improve their fate. They are almost certainly done for the season (barring some unexpected RPI math).

Atlantic Hockey and CCHA will take two bids from the top 16. And the ECAC, HE and NCHC all still have spoilers in their tournaments as well. A Q bid is not a certainty.

But there has to be an upset in one of the tourneys other than the 2 that will take the 15 and 16 spots. There is no guarantee that there will be an upset. The statement that knocking Q out in Lake Placid would knock out Michigan seems to be correct.

For me, the highs from this weekend ended as soon as it became reality that we have to play Quinnipiac next weekend. Joy turns to dread as one realizes that more likely than not Rand Pecknold will end Mike’s career. Even in a “normal” year for Cornell, Quinnipiac would be a tough matchup, but this season Quinnipiac has way fewer (~zero) injuries and is getting big contributions from fifth year players (something Cornell is not allowed to have). We’re going to need puck luck next weekend to win. Far from impossible, but unlikely. All we can do now is pray. What’s DeSantis’s status?

Jim Hyla
CHN has us at 7:30 for the second game.

If correct, that's nice for our fans, but surprises me. Would think that Q would want the early game.

Wouldn’t put too much stock in that. CHN had all sorts of game times and dates wrong in the past few weeks - for example it showed us playing Yale on the Friday night until about Wednesday of that week.

I imagine we will almost certainly play the early game.

Jim Hyla

ugarte

BearLover
Congrats to the Quinnipiac fans on this forum for getting the matchup they wanted. Now we have a game we are around 40% to win instead of one we are around 60% to win. Hope for the best I suppose.

You need to stop taking the pro-Q posts literally. They are the equivalent of the guy with a We Want Duke at the America East championship game.

What he really should do is find a way to think positively about others. I don't have stats, but the general tenor seems to posting negatively 75-90% of the time.

For me finding something nice is much more satisfying than being negative.

I'm not saying he was one of them, as I'm too lazy to look, but whenever I see negative posts I think back upon all those who said Schafer could never change his style and basically we were doomed if we didn't get rid of him. Well these teams are nothing like 10 years ago and I can't find an ECAC coach that I'd rather have had.

Naysayers be damned.

For what it’s worth, I was quite negative about the program/Schafer in 2015 and after 2016 ended, but I never called for his firing. The most I said was that he deserves another year to show he can change styles/turn things around. Then we made the NCAAs in 2017 and I never questioned Schafer’s style ever again.

As an addition to my last post, it reminded me of this weekend.

As I was passing out newspapers, some old gent, I can say that cause I'm old, started confronting me to be sure to pick up all the left over papers. Ha ha.

Then at the end of yesterdays game I was throwing more Snickers to our fans and some, not as old, guy came up to challenge me about what was I doing and I needed to go pick up everything I threw, blah, blah, blah. He kept carrying on until an usher, that I was standing next to the whole game, had to get in between us so that he didn't get any closer.

Damn, it's a game. Be glad you could watch it and forget the rest.

BearLover
For me, the highs from this weekend ended as soon as it became reality that we have to play Quinnipiac next weekend. Joy turns to dread as one realizes that more likely than not Rand Pecknold will end Mike’s career. Even in a “normal” year for Cornell, Quinnipiac would be a tough matchup, but this season Quinnipiac has way fewer (~zero) injuries and is getting big contributions from fifth year players (something Cornell is not allowed to have). We’re going to need puck luck next weekend to win. Far from impossible, but unlikely. All we can do now is pray. What’s DeSantis’s status?

“Lighten up, Francis”

marty

pjd8

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Chris H82
Clarkson with the win. We get Q.

How do we feel about Q, genuinely?
And Harvard still sucks. God bless.

We tied them twice and lost by one goal. Certainly a talented and well coached team, but not an impossible hill to climb.

Alright. Feelin' a little better about it.
Also, my BU friend says the Cornell-Q game might decide Michigan's fate, as they're 14th in pairwise, and if we win, Q gets an at-large bid and they drop out due to autobids from the shit conferences (CCHA and AHA). From what I understood, anyway.

Q losing to Cornell doesn't drop Q below, Michigan. and Michigan is done in the Big 10 so they can't improve their fate. They are almost certainly done for the season (barring some unexpected RPI math).

Atlantic Hockey and CCHA will take two bids from the top 16. And the ECAC, HE and NCHC all still have spoilers in their tournaments as well. A Q bid is not a certainty.

But there has to be an upset in one of the tourneys other than the 2 that will take the 15 and 16 spots. There is no guarantee that there will be an upset. The statement that knocking Q out in Lake Placid would knock out Michigan seems to be correct.

I was reading "deciding their fate" a little differently. I agree that knocking Q out will doom Michigan, but customizing Pairwise as much as I can right now, there appears to be additional paths to knocking Michigan out. If CC and Minnesota State win, that puts ASU just a hair under Michigan in RPI, and if ASU wins (which we can't plug into the customizer yet) they could knock out Michigan as well. North Dakota is too far behind in RPI to be a threat unless they win their tourney.

Michigan should be rooting hard for Q and Denver to win, and hope that Northeastern doesn't have a miracle tourney. And with three out of the five remaining NCHC teams having the ability to play spoiler, as well as three out of four ECAC teams, the Michigan camp should be very nervous right now.

pjd8

marty

pjd8

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scoop85

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Chris H82
Clarkson with the win. We get Q.

How do we feel about Q, genuinely?
And Harvard still sucks. God bless.

We tied them twice and lost by one goal. Certainly a talented and well coached team, but not an impossible hill to climb.

Alright. Feelin' a little better about it.
Also, my BU friend says the Cornell-Q game might decide Michigan's fate, as they're 14th in pairwise, and if we win, Q gets an at-large bid and they drop out due to autobids from the shit conferences (CCHA and AHA). From what I understood, anyway.

Q losing to Cornell doesn't drop Q below, Michigan. and Michigan is done in the Big 10 so they can't improve their fate. They are almost certainly done for the season (barring some unexpected RPI math).

Atlantic Hockey and CCHA will take two bids from the top 16. And the ECAC, HE and NCHC all still have spoilers in their tournaments as well. A Q bid is not a certainty.

But there has to be an upset in one of the tourneys other than the 2 that will take the 15 and 16 spots. There is no guarantee that there will be an upset. The statement that knocking Q out in Lake Placid would knock out Michigan seems to be correct.

I was reading "deciding their fate" a little differently. I agree that knocking Q out will doom Michigan, but customizing Pairwise as much as I can right now, there appears to be additional paths to knocking Michigan out. If CC and Minnesota State win, that puts ASU just a hair under Michigan in RPI, and if ASU wins (which we can't plug into the customizer yet) they could knock out Michigan as well. North Dakota is too far behind in RPI to be a threat unless they win their tourney.

Michigan should be rooting hard for Q and Denver to win, and hope that Northeastern doesn't have a miracle tourney. And with three out of the five remaining NCHC teams having the ability to play spoiler, as well as three out of four ECAC teams, the Michigan camp should be very nervous right now.

What are Q’s odds if we beat them next round? Not that I need extra motivation to want to win, but I have to imagine Q’s odds are fairly low if they lose RPI from the loss and also an extra auto-bid gets in (Cornell/Dartmouth/Clarkson).

Jim Hyla
As an addition to my last post, it reminded me of this weekend.

As I was passing out newspapers, some old gent, I can say that cause I'm old, started confronting me to be sure to pick up all the left over papers. Ha ha.

Then at the end of yesterdays game I was throwing more Snickers to our fans and some, not as old, guy came up to challenge me about what was I doing and I needed to go pick up everything I threw, blah, blah, blah. He kept carrying on until an usher, that I was standing next to the whole game, had to get in between us so that he didn't get any closer.

Damn, it's a game. Be glad you could watch it and forget the rest.

On the espn+ broadcast, one of (much discussed) John McGraw’s many asides mentioned how the traveling Faithful did all the usual traditions we’re known for, and “there was a gentleman handing out newspapers before introductions” and I said to myself “Hey, good to know Jim made it!”

Never tell me the odds.

I’m fine with the Q matchup. We were likely gonna have to face them anyway so might as well get it done early.

chimpfood
I’m fine with the Q matchup. We were likely gonna have to face them anyway so might as well get it done early.

Agreed. Lets go!

Jim Hyla
CHN has us at 7:30 for the second game.

If correct, that's nice for our fans, but surprises me. Would think that Q would want the early game.

not finalized - just a placeholder.

adamw

Jim Hyla
CHN has us at 7:30 for the second game.

If correct, that's nice for our fans, but surprises me. Would think that Q would want the early game.

not finalized - just a placeholder.

Cornell now says it’s at 4.
[cornellbigred.com]

By the stats, Q would seem to have a slight advantage……BUT, If the guys can perform like they did this weekend, it can be a 50/50 outcome in my opinion!!

CU2007

Jim Hyla
CHN has us at 7:30 for the second game.

If correct, that's nice for our fans, but surprises me. Would think that Q would want the early game.

Wouldn’t put too much stock in that. CHN had all sorts of game times and dates wrong in the past few weeks - for example it showed us playing Yale on the Friday night until about Wednesday of that week.

edit - sorry I just realized what you meant.....

Times constantly change, which is why they are "wrong" -- when it comes to playoffs, teams change them constantly. Also, we get a feed from the NCAA's portal - which the teams are supposed to insert into and keep updated. And often they are different than what is on the team's web site. This week alone, I had to email 4 schools to ask about discrepancies. No other web site curator out there emails teams trying to make sure everything is correct, I assure you, whether that be schedules or stats.

We have an automated process that checks our stuff against the "official" portal - times, locations, dates, opponents, etc... I get a report every morning on what doesn't match. 99% of the time, the "official" portal is wrong and we're right.

I believe in the case of Cornell-Yale, they didn't know yet what date it would be. We had to put the game in system before knowing the date, in order to make everything else we do run properly -- Pairwise, Pairwise Customizer, Probability Matrix, etc...

Can't say we're never wrong - but barking up the wrong tree here. I can assure you we're the least wrong our whole system depends upon it being right.

pjd8

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Chris H82
Clarkson with the win. We get Q.

How do we feel about Q, genuinely?
And Harvard still sucks. God bless.

We tied them twice and lost by one goal. Certainly a talented and well coached team, but not an impossible hill to climb.

Alright. Feelin' a little better about it.
Also, my BU friend says the Cornell-Q game might decide Michigan's fate, as they're 14th in pairwise, and if we win, Q gets an at-large bid and they drop out due to autobids from the shit conferences (CCHA and AHA). From what I understood, anyway.

Q losing to Cornell doesn't drop Q below, Michigan. and Michigan is done in the Big 10 so they can't improve their fate. They are almost certainly done for the season (barring some unexpected RPI math).

Atlantic Hockey and CCHA will take two bids from the top 16. And the ECAC, HE and NCHC all still have spoilers in their tournaments as well. A Q bid is not a certainty.

Michigan's odds are low because they only need one conference to go "non-chalk" - but it's not true that they're certainly done. If all the conferences go chalk, they are in.

Chousnake

George64
Harvard wins in OT, so we’ll play Dartmouth.

The ECAC website, which is terrible BTW, had last night's score in the spot for today's game 3, even though it hadn't been played yet.

Thank you pointing out the source of my error. I was, however, looking forward to a rematch with Dartmouth considering the kerfuffle back in January. We still might still get an opportunity in the finals if they best Clarkson.

BearLover

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marty

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Chris H82
Clarkson with the win. We get Q.

How do we feel about Q, genuinely?
And Harvard still sucks. God bless.

We tied them twice and lost by one goal. Certainly a talented and well coached team, but not an impossible hill to climb.

Alright. Feelin' a little better about it.
Also, my BU friend says the Cornell-Q game might decide Michigan's fate, as they're 14th in pairwise, and if we win, Q gets an at-large bid and they drop out due to autobids from the shit conferences (CCHA and AHA). From what I understood, anyway.

Q losing to Cornell doesn't drop Q below, Michigan. and Michigan is done in the Big 10 so they can't improve their fate. They are almost certainly done for the season (barring some unexpected RPI math).

Atlantic Hockey and CCHA will take two bids from the top 16. And the ECAC, HE and NCHC all still have spoilers in their tournaments as well. A Q bid is not a certainty.

But there has to be an upset in one of the tourneys other than the 2 that will take the 15 and 16 spots. There is no guarantee that there will be an upset. The statement that knocking Q out in Lake Placid would knock out Michigan seems to be correct.

I was reading "deciding their fate" a little differently. I agree that knocking Q out will doom Michigan, but customizing Pairwise as much as I can right now, there appears to be additional paths to knocking Michigan out. If CC and Minnesota State win, that puts ASU just a hair under Michigan in RPI, and if ASU wins (which we can't plug into the customizer yet) they could knock out Michigan as well. North Dakota is too far behind in RPI to be a threat unless they win their tourney.

Michigan should be rooting hard for Q and Denver to win, and hope that Northeastern doesn't have a miracle tourney. And with three out of the five remaining NCHC teams having the ability to play spoiler, as well as three out of four ECAC teams, the Michigan camp should be very nervous right now.

What are Q’s odds if we beat them next round? Not that I need extra motivation to want to win, but I have to imagine Q’s odds are fairly low if they lose RPI from the loss and also an extra auto-bid gets in (Cornell/Dartmouth/Clarkson).

A Cornell win (with other higher seeds winning) right now puts Q in 13, with Minnesota State right behind them. So Q at this point is probably safe with Minn St getting the CCHA bid and being in the top 16. Michigan (15) would lose out to the ECAC and Atlantic Hockey autobids.

If I have all the higher seeds whose names show up under the customize tab win their next game, Q moves up to 11 in Pairwise and Michigan falls to 15, but 14 again is Minnesota State, so Michigan could still squeak in. But North Dakota and ASU aren't showing up there, and they are hovering right behind Michigan. So when I pick Western Michigan to win against TBD, I don't think that dings North Dakota in RPI. And I can't choose a Denver-ASU winner yet.

As Adam said, Michigan isn't out of it. But they have multiple paths to getting there.

Can anybody tell me why so many people care about whether Michigan makes the NCAAs?

Jim Hyla
Can anybody tell me why so many people care about whether Michigan makes the NCAAs?

they don't. they care about whether they can predict the pairwise outcomes. michigan is the team that happens to be on the bubble.

adamw

Jim Hyla
CHN has us at 7:30 for the second game.

If correct, that's nice for our fans, but surprises me. Would think that Q would want the early game.

not finalized - just a placeholder.

Like other places you could put TBD or TBA as a placeholder.

That would be less confusing. At least to old guys like me, who try to believe what's written.

I try not to think of "alternative facts."

ugarte

Jim Hyla
Can anybody tell me why so many people care about whether Michigan makes the NCAAs?

they don't. they care about whether they can predict the pairwise outcomes. michigan is the team that happens to be on the bubble.

I think it's more than that. Michigan has come up on other occasions.

I'm not going to search back, but if it shows, I'll point it out.

Jim Hyla

adamw

Jim Hyla
CHN has us at 7:30 for the second game.

If correct, that's nice for our fans, but surprises me. Would think that Q would want the early game.

not finalized - just a placeholder.

Like other places you could put TBD or TBA as a placeholder.

That would be less confusing. At least to old guys like me, who try to believe what's written.

I try not to think of "alternative facts."

I understand. It's a catch-22 to me, which is why I've always left it this way. In my mind, it's nice to know the times of the two games in general, even if they teams will be flipped. But I get how it can seem confusing.

pjd8
A Cornell win (with other higher seeds winning) right now puts Q in 13, with Minnesota State right behind them. So Q at this point is probably safe with Minn St getting the CCHA bid and being in the top 16. Michigan (15) would lose out to the ECAC and Atlantic Hockey autobids.

There's multiple scenarios where, if Q loses the semi, it drops below Penn State, and so - say - Arizona State winning the NCHC - would knock Q out.

Jim Hyla
Can anybody tell me why so many people care about whether Michigan makes the NCAAs?

I brought it up, mea culpa. Came up in conversation with a friend that if we beat Q, Michigan almost assuredly slips out of the bubble. Given Michigan's program pedigree and how many NHL products they've cranked out over the past few years, that's intriguing as hell. Also, Ethan Edwards, for Devils fans like me and that friend.

adamw

CU2007

Jim Hyla
CHN has us at 7:30 for the second game.

If correct, that's nice for our fans, but surprises me. Would think that Q would want the early game.

Wouldn’t put too much stock in that. CHN had all sorts of game times and dates wrong in the past few weeks - for example it showed us playing Yale on the Friday night until about Wednesday of that week.

edit - sorry I just realized what you meant.....

Times constantly change, which is why they are "wrong" -- when it comes to playoffs, teams change them constantly. Also, we get a feed from the NCAA's portal - which the teams are supposed to insert into and keep updated. And often they are different than what is on the team's web site. This week alone, I had to email 4 schools to ask about discrepancies. No other web site curator out there emails teams trying to make sure everything is correct, I assure you, whether that be schedules or stats.

We have an automated process that checks our stuff against the "official" portal - times, locations, dates, opponents, etc... I get a report every morning on what doesn't match. 99% of the time, the "official" portal is wrong and we're right.

I believe in the case of Cornell-Yale, they didn't know yet what date it would be. We had to put the game in system before knowing the date, in order to make everything else we do run properly -- Pairwise, Pairwise Customizer, Probability Matrix, etc...

Can't say we're never wrong - but barking up the wrong tree here. I can assure you we're the least wrong our whole system depends upon it being right.

Sorry Adam - did not mean to imply CHN was lazy or negligent or anything like that - just that very early on the game times etc seem to function more as a placeholder than anything. Cheers

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Chris H82
Clarkson with the win. We get Q.

How do we feel about Q, genuinely?
And Harvard still sucks. God bless.

I suspect it’ll come down to whether or not Cornell stays out of the box.

My gut says a healthy and effective Cornell team will be better even strength, but if they were to trade penalties all game Q would have a huge advantage. They ended the RS with the best PP in the country.

Tom Lento

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Chris H82
Clarkson with the win. We get Q.

How do we feel about Q, genuinely?
And Harvard still sucks. God bless.

I suspect it’ll come down to whether or not Cornell stays out of the box.

My gut says a healthy and effective Cornell team will be better even strength, but if they were to trade penalties all game Q would have a huge advantage. They ended the RS with the best PP in the country.

I completely agree as we seem to take too many stupid penalties.

Harvard loses their goalie Koskenvuo to the Canucks. Surprising because he really hasn’t been that good. I’d imagine that Charette takes over for them next year, shouldn’t be much of a drop off from Koskenvuo

Jim Hyla

ugarte

Jim Hyla
Can anybody tell me why so many people care about whether Michigan makes the NCAAs?

they don't. they care about whether they can predict the pairwise outcomes. michigan is the team that happens to be on the bubble.

I think it's more than that. Michigan has come up on other occasions.

I'm not going to search back, but if it shows, I'll point it out.

They're fairly universally hated. When a list of schools with alumni who have a ridiculous hyperbolic estimation of their school's academics comes around, you can guarantee that USC, Duke, Michigan, and Dartmouth will always be on it.

They aren't bad schools per se. Michigan among those four is clearly the best in actuality. But their alumni are just obnoxiously proud of themselves. I'm sure there are others. I was going to include Notre Dame but that is more cultural overall than academic.

Trotsky

Jim Hyla

ugarte

Jim Hyla
Can anybody tell me why so many people care about whether Michigan makes the NCAAs?

they don't. they care about whether they can predict the pairwise outcomes. michigan is the team that happens to be on the bubble.

I think it's more than that. Michigan has come up on other occasions.

I'm not going to search back, but if it shows, I'll point it out.

They're fairly universally hated. When a list of schools with alumni who have a ridiculous hyperbolic estimation of their school's academics comes around, you can guarantee that USC, Duke, Michigan, and Dartmouth will always be on it.

They aren't bad schools per se. Michigan among those four is clearly the best in actuality. But their alumni are just obnoxiously proud of themselves. I'm sure there are others. I was going to include Notre Dame but that is more cultural overall than academic.

All of the damn Ivies!! You aren't where you went to school.

marty

Trotsky

Jim Hyla

ugarte

Jim Hyla
Can anybody tell me why so many people care about whether Michigan makes the NCAAs?

they don't. they care about whether they can predict the pairwise outcomes. michigan is the team that happens to be on the bubble.

I think it's more than that. Michigan has come up on other occasions.

I'm not going to search back, but if it shows, I'll point it out.

They're fairly universally hated. When a list of schools with alumni who have a ridiculous hyperbolic estimation of their school's academics comes around, you can guarantee that USC, Duke, Michigan, and Dartmouth will always be on it.

They aren't bad schools per se. Michigan among those four is clearly the best in actuality. But their alumni are just obnoxiously proud of themselves. I'm sure there are others. I was going to include Notre Dame but that is more cultural overall than academic.

All of the damn Ivies!! You aren't where you went to school.

Except us... right?

chimpfood
Harvard loses their goalie Koskenvuo to the Canucks. Surprising because he really hasn’t been that good. I’d imagine that Charette takes over for them next year, shouldn’t be much of a drop off from Koskenvuo

Yeah, very odd. It's not like he was all that good this season as you say. Maybe he had full intention of going pro somewhere (even outside NA) and just decided to take the option that presented itself now

Trotsky

Jim Hyla

ugarte

Jim Hyla
Can anybody tell me why so many people care about whether Michigan makes the NCAAs?

they don't. they care about whether they can predict the pairwise outcomes. michigan is the team that happens to be on the bubble.

I think it's more than that. Michigan has come up on other occasions.

I'm not going to search back, but if it shows, I'll point it out.

They're fairly universally hated. When a list of schools with alumni who have a ridiculous hyperbolic estimation of their school's academics comes around, you can guarantee that USC, Duke, Michigan, and Dartmouth will always be on it.

They aren't bad schools per se. Michigan among those four is clearly the best in actuality. But their alumni are just obnoxiously proud of themselves. I'm sure there are others. I was going to include Notre Dame but that is more cultural overall than academic.

Thanks, it's nice to know how people feel about us.

Proud-Yes

Obnoxious-That's for you to decide

Jim Hyla
Thanks, it's nice to know how people feel about us.

Proud-Yes

Obnoxious-That's for you to decide

I didn't say it's justified. It's the Zeitgeist. They say (and you know the sort of things They say) that Cornell "isn't even an Ivy." Being dismissed by the Common Mind is not necessarily a bad thing. Have you met it?

But USC truly sucks.

Trotsky

Jim Hyla
Thanks, it's nice to know how people feel about us.

Proud-Yes

Obnoxious-That's for you to decide

I didn't say it's justified. It's the Zeitgeist. They say (and you know the sort of things They say) that Cornell "isn't even an Ivy." Being dismissed by the Common Mind is not necessarily a bad thing. Have you met it?

But USC truly sucks.

Trotsky
But their alumni are just obnoxiously proud of themselves.

But you did say that you agree with them.

Jim Hyla

Trotsky

Jim Hyla
Thanks, it's nice to know how people feel about us.

Proud-Yes

Obnoxious-That's for you to decide

I didn't say it's justified. It's the Zeitgeist. They say (and you know the sort of things They say) that Cornell "isn't even an Ivy." Being dismissed by the Common Mind is not necessarily a bad thing. Have you met it?

But USC truly sucks.

Trotsky
But their alumni are just obnoxiously proud of themselves.

But you did say that you agree with them.

I feel like the Yankees fans on this forum should weigh in here.

Jim Hyla

Trotsky

Jim Hyla

ugarte

Jim Hyla
Can anybody tell me why so many people care about whether Michigan makes the NCAAs?

they don't. they care about whether they can predict the pairwise outcomes. michigan is the team that happens to be on the bubble.

I think it's more than that. Michigan has come up on other occasions.

I'm not going to search back, but if it shows, I'll point it out.

They're fairly universally hated. When a list of schools with alumni who have a ridiculous hyperbolic estimation of their school's academics comes around, you can guarantee that USC, Duke, Michigan, and Dartmouth will always be on it.

They aren't bad schools per se. Michigan among those four is clearly the best in actuality. But their alumni are just obnoxiously proud of themselves. I'm sure there are others. I was going to include Notre Dame but that is more cultural overall than academic.

Thanks, it's nice to know how people feel about us.

Proud-Yes

Obnoxious-That's for you to decide

As someone who attended the Cornell School of Chemical Engineering and also same at Michigan my opinion of Michigan couldn't be higher.

Yet I'm not Cornell, Michigan, U of I nor College of DuPage or HVCC. I'm me.

Jim Hyla
But you did say that you agree with them.

I should not have about UM.

I haven't met anybody who is Snobbish about UM. Though apparently everybody in the Midwest has.

I have met plenty of delusional Duke and USC folks.

Dartmouth, I'm thinking unless they're embarrassed they are overrating themselves.

How is it possible to have any idea how good a school is if you haven’t attended it?

BearLover
How is it possible to have any idea how good a school is if you haven’t attended it?

Even then, the English department may suck while the History department rocks.

I think we can all agree that all schools are equal.

All schools are equal. But some schools are more equal than others.

Snowball
All schools are equal. But some schools are more equal than others.

I would just like to take a moment to admire the fact that the user named Snowball managed to get this comment done first.

End of thread. I'm just happy to have been a part of it.

Beeeej

Snowball
All schools are equal. But some schools are more equal than others.

I would just like to take a moment to admire the fact that the user named Snowball managed to get this comment done first.

Also admirably, the Orwellian character thought to represent...TROTSKY!

marty
As someone who attended the Cornell School of Chemical Engineering and also same at Michigan my opinion of Michigan couldn't be higher.

are you still in Chem Engineering now? Because my son just graduated with a degree in it and could really use a job.

TimV

Beeeej

Snowball
All schools are equal. But some schools are more equal than others.

I would just like to take a moment to admire the fact that the user named Snowball managed to get this comment done first.

Also admirably, the Orwellian character thought to represent...TROTSKY!

Hahahaha, 100% True

My favorite book, after Huck Finn and Moby Dick... but oh wait, this is a hockey forum not a literature forum...

How about this for the Latin Nerds, we know you are out there:

Quinnipiac Delenda Est!!!

adamw

marty
As someone who attended the Cornell School of Chemical Engineering and also same at Michigan my opinion of Michigan couldn't be higher.

are you still in Chem Engineering now? Because my son just graduated with a degree in it and could really use a job.

I'll obviously let him tell you, but he used to deal with chemicals, not as an engineer (much like I'm not an engineer) and for sure not now.

So I'd guess your son is out of luck from here.

Snowball

TimV

Also admirably, the Orwellian character thought to represent...TROTSKY!

Hahahaha, 100% True

My favorite book, after Huck Finn and Moby Dick... but oh wait, this is a hockey forum not a literature forum...

How about this for the Latin Nerds, we know you are out there:

Quinnipiac Delenda Est!!!

Gotta love eLynah, the only sports forum where I have to look stuff up.
.

adamw

marty
As someone who attended the Cornell School of Chemical Engineering and also same at Michigan my opinion of Michigan couldn't be higher.

are you still in Chem Engineering now? Because my son just graduated with a degree in it and could really use a job.

No. I'm on my third career and at age 73 I still wonder what I'm going to do when I grow up. As one of my colleagues said, "I'd like to do something useful". Cheers to her.

adamw

marty
As someone who attended the Cornell School of Chemical Engineering and also same at Michigan my opinion of Michigan couldn't be higher.

are you still in Chem Engineering now? Because my son just graduated with a degree in it and could really use a job.

Sorry to tell you (and him) this, Adam, but American companies are trying to shift as much of their engineering labor to Asia. They're not nearly as skilled or creative, but they're much, much cheaper. Plus the American companies don't have to pay benefits.

It's one of the reasons I retired early - I couldn't deal with the incompetence. Not to mention that we were dealing with some seriously dangerous stuff, and the Asian engineering companies only cared about cost, not safety or pollution issues.

Jeff Hopkins '82

adamw

marty
As someone who attended the Cornell School of Chemical Engineering and also same at Michigan my opinion of Michigan couldn't be higher.

are you still in Chem Engineering now? Because my son just graduated with a degree in it and could really use a job.

Sorry to tell you (and him) this, Adam, but American companies are trying to shift as much of their engineering labor to Asia. They're not nearly as skilled or creative, but they're much, much cheaper. Plus the American companies don't have to pay benefits.

It's one of the reasons I retired early - I couldn't deal with the incompetence. Not to mention that we were dealing with some seriously dangerous stuff, and the Asian engineering companies only cared about cost, not safety or pollution issues.

The American companies don’t have to pay benefits?

George64

Snowball

TimV

Also admirably, the Orwellian character thought to represent...TROTSKY!

Hahahaha, 100% True

My favorite book, after Huck Finn and Moby Dick... but oh wait, this is a hockey forum not a literature forum...

How about this for the Latin Nerds, we know you are out there:

Quinnipiac Delenda Est!!!

Gotta love eLynah, the only sports forum where I have to look stuff up.
.

High brow sports shit, the forum.

I looked it up too. Had the right idea but not the exact words.

Jeff Hopkins '82

adamw

marty
As someone who attended the Cornell School of Chemical Engineering and also same at Michigan my opinion of Michigan couldn't be higher.

are you still in Chem Engineering now? Because my son just graduated with a degree in it and could really use a job.

Sorry to tell you (and him) this, Adam, but American companies are trying to shift as much of their engineering labor to Asia. They're not nearly as skilled or creative, but they're much, much cheaper. Plus the American companies don't have to pay benefits.

It's one of the reasons I retired early - I couldn't deal with the incompetence. Not to mention that we were dealing with some seriously dangerous stuff, and the Asian engineering companies only cared about cost, not safety or pollution issues.

the world is going to hell? shocking

toddlose

Jeff Hopkins '82

adamw

marty
As someone who attended the Cornell School of Chemical Engineering and also same at Michigan my opinion of Michigan couldn't be higher.

are you still in Chem Engineering now? Because my son just graduated with a degree in it and could really use a job.

Sorry to tell you (and him) this, Adam, but American companies are trying to shift as much of their engineering labor to Asia. They're not nearly as skilled or creative, but they're much, much cheaper. Plus the American companies don't have to pay benefits.

It's one of the reasons I retired early - I couldn't deal with the incompetence. Not to mention that we were dealing with some seriously dangerous stuff, and the Asian engineering companies only cared about cost, not safety or pollution issues.

The American companies don’t have to pay benefits?

To employees of overseas subsidiaries/subcontractors, I think is what he's saying.

ugarte

toddlose

Jeff Hopkins '82

adamw

marty
As someone who attended the Cornell School of Chemical Engineering and also same at Michigan my opinion of Michigan couldn't be higher.

are you still in Chem Engineering now? Because my son just graduated with a degree in it and could really use a job.

Sorry to tell you (and him) this, Adam, but American companies are trying to shift as much of their engineering labor to Asia. They're not nearly as skilled or creative, but they're much, much cheaper. Plus the American companies don't have to pay benefits.

It's one of the reasons I retired early - I couldn't deal with the incompetence. Not to mention that we were dealing with some seriously dangerous stuff, and the Asian engineering companies only cared about cost, not safety or pollution issues.

The American companies don’t have to pay benefits?

To employees of overseas subsidiaries/subcontractors, I think is what he's saying.

Correct. And remember, many countries have national medical insurance, so there's no need to pay benefits.

With NU losing in 2OT last night, that leaves only NCHC with bid stealers--ASU and UND

Iceberg
With NU losing in 2OT last night, that leaves only NCHC with bid stealers--ASU and UND

Clarkson and Dartmouth can steal a bid from Michigan as well. And if ASU/UND win, and non-QU win, an ECAC team would either knock out Penn State or Q itself.

Iceberg
With NU losing in 2OT last night, that leaves only NCHC with bid stealers--ASU and UND

Isn't the ECAC still a bid stealer? If we beat Q, we could have 2 bids.

adamw

Iceberg
With NU losing in 2OT last night, that leaves only NCHC with bid stealers--ASU and UND

Clarkson and Dartmouth can steal a bid from Michigan as well. And if ASU/UND win, and non-QU win, an ECAC team would either knock out Penn State or Q itself.

You beat me by a minute on this one.

But couldn't Cornell also steal a bid if we win?

Jim Hyla

adamw

Iceberg
With NU losing in 2OT last night, that leaves only NCHC with bid stealers--ASU and UND

Clarkson and Dartmouth can steal a bid from Michigan as well. And if ASU/UND win, and non-QU win, an ECAC team would either knock out Penn State or Q itself.

You beat me by a minute on this one.

But couldn't Cornell also steal a bid if we win?

Yeah basically - but from Quinnipiac. I didn't elaborate on the whole thing - but I've been trying to explain to Penn State fans for two weeks that they didn't have a bid "locked down" after last week - despite what they were all gloating about. So let's say ASU/ND win NCHC. Then Penn State has to be concerned with Q losing, only if Q loses the final. If Q loses to Cornell, Penn State remains safe and Q drops below Penn State. So that's what I was referring to - and as you can see, that takes longer to explain what I meant

adamw

Jim Hyla

adamw

Iceberg
With NU losing in 2OT last night, that leaves only NCHC with bid stealers--ASU and UND

Clarkson and Dartmouth can steal a bid from Michigan as well. And if ASU/UND win, and non-QU win, an ECAC team would either knock out Penn State or Q itself.

You beat me by a minute on this one.

But couldn't Cornell also steal a bid if we win?

Yeah basically - but from Quinnipiac. I didn't elaborate on the whole thing - but I've been trying to explain to Penn State fans for two weeks that they didn't have a bid "locked down" after last week - despite what they were all gloating about. So let's say ASU/ND win NCHC. Then Penn State has to be concerned with Q losing, only if Q loses the final. If Q loses to Cornell, Penn State remains safe and Q drops below Penn State. So that's what I was referring to - and as you can see, that takes longer to explain what I meant

Thanks

Yeah, my post was from Q's perspective, so I should've clarified.

2-0 Clarkson at the end of the 2nd.

Clarkson looks really good, we’re gonna have to come out strong tomorrow if we don’t want to spoil todays win

sah67
2-0 Clarkson at the end of the 2nd.

Now 3-0 in the 3rd.

Looks like Maine will win HE. They're up 4-1 on UConn late in the 3rd.

And if we win out, I don't see Q dropping below 12 in the Pairwise.

Another flying stick penalty in the other semi, we should hold our sticks very lightly tomorrow.

Not a great outing by the Dartmouth goalie: 3 GA on 14 SOG.

Dartmouth pots one with the extra attacker on. It’s now 3-1 with just over 3 mins to play.

Clarkson looking shaky now, just like when we last played them they are getting dominated in SOG but have a 3-1 lead

And now 4-1 Clarkson. Final.