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I have long given up on Cornell going anywhere this year. But I still had things to root for tonight: if Brown held on to a 2-0 lead over Dartmouth, Cornell would win the Ivy. And if Clarkson held on to a 2-0 lead over Quinnipiac, it would kill Quinnipiac’s at-large chances and ensure the ECAC is a one-bid league this year. Guess how that turned out?

Lmaooooo

In OT Clarkson commits obviously penalty (you could call high sticking, you could call interference, you could call just about anything), Q player goes down, refs totally miss it, Clarkson ends up with a clear breakaway and scores the OT winner. Now they’re reviewing, but they can only undo the goal by calling a major, which it obviously wasn’t. So the goal stands even though it was 100% caused by a penalty.

I wasn’t watching with sound on so I don’t know if the announcers had any further analysis.

It’s darkly hilarious that Cornell hired away Clarkson’s coach and then Clarkson vastly improved. But Q losing on a horrible blown call is even funnier.

BearLover
Lmaooooo

In OT Clarkson commits obviously penalty (you could call high sticking, you could call interference, you could call just about anything), Q player goes down, refs totally miss it, Clarkson ends up with a clear breakaway and scores the OT winner. Now they’re reviewing, but they can only undo the goal by calling a major, which it obviously wasn’t. So the goal stands even though it was 100% caused by a penalty.

I wasn’t watching with sound on so I don’t know if the announcers had any further analysis.

It’s darkly hilarious that Cornell hired away Clarkson’s coach and then Clarkson vastly improved. But Q losing on a horrible blown call is even funnier.

Or they just added a good goalie in the portal (who Casey recruited btw) and their best player already has 11 more goals than his total last year. I do think that Houle is probably a better coach than Jones but he’s not the whole reason that they are better.

BearLover

BearLover
Dartmouth losing 2-0 to Brown. If that holds, we win the Ivy, despite the colossal disappointment of a season.

2-2 now. This team doesn’t deserve a banner anyway.

The team that earns the banner "deserves" it. The word has no other meaning.

chimpfood

BearLover
Lmaooooo

In OT Clarkson commits obviously penalty (you could call high sticking, you could call interference, you could call just about anything), Q player goes down, refs totally miss it, Clarkson ends up with a clear breakaway and scores the OT winner. Now they’re reviewing, but they can only undo the goal by calling a major, which it obviously wasn’t. So the goal stands even though it was 100% caused by a penalty.

I wasn’t watching with sound on so I don’t know if the announcers had any further analysis.

It’s darkly hilarious that Cornell hired away Clarkson’s coach and then Clarkson vastly improved. But Q losing on a horrible blown call is even funnier.

Or they just added a good goalie in the portal (who Casey recruited btw) and their best player already has 11 more goals than his total last year. I do think that Houle is probably a better coach than Jones but he’s not the whole reason that they are better.

I really look forward to the both of you eating this line of BS.

Or just leaving.

Winning with Casey will have just a little extra appeal after this, it's true.

As with every petulant, premature "X is not the answer."

Trotsky
Winning with Casey will have just a little extra appeal after this, it's true.

As with every petulant, premature "X is not the answer."

I learned not to jump to conclusions back in my junior year, through prejudging Jason Elliot as “not the answer” after a bad road tie at Union.

Just to be clear: Casey recruited the team that is currently winning at Clarkson. Casey is likely a good coach. I predict Cornell will have more success than Clarkson over the next five years.

But: Clarkson’s new coach was a successful AHL coach considered to have been on the path to a potential NHL head coaching job. Casey had little success the past two seasons with many of the same players. He moved over to Cornell, which has struggled mightily this season. And Clarkson seems to be recruiting very well from the CHL.

So even if Cornell’s trajectory looks more positive than Clarkson’s, the gap looks much smaller than it did a year ago.

Scersk '97

Trotsky
Winning with Casey will have just a little extra appeal after this, it's true.

As with every petulant, premature "X is not the answer."

I learned not to jump to conclusions back in my junior year, through prejudging Jason Elliot as “not the answer” after a bad road tie at Union.

I think mine was the first(?) women's weekend this year where Bergmann let in a muffin from the blue line and I was like "okay so she's not that good, right?" (Not knowing that she was rookie of the year last year for a reason...)

stereax

Scersk '97

Trotsky
Winning with Casey will have just a little extra appeal after this, it's true.

As with every petulant, premature "X is not the answer."

I learned not to jump to conclusions back in my junior year, through prejudging Jason Elliot as “not the answer” after a bad road tie at Union.

I think mine was the first(?) women's weekend this year where Bergmann let in a muffin from the blue line and I was like "okay so she's not that good, right?" (Not knowing that she was rookie of the year last year for a reason...)

LOL.

I never appreciated Gary Cullen when I was an undergrad. What I would do now for such a point machine.

chimpfood
I do think that [Jean-François Houle Clarkson '97] Houle is probably a better coach than Jones but he’s not the whole reason that they are better.

[In unison] No, it's their system.

Princeton up on Clarkson 3-1.

Tonight Quinnipiac won its 5th clearly cup in a row. Since 2013 they have a national championship and 2 ncaa finals appearances, and they have come in first place in the ECAC 9/13 years. They’ve clearly surpassed Cornell at this point. People on here can cope about them having no academic standards, and that’s true, but the same is true for almost every D-1 hockey school and many of the schools in the ECAC. Let’s all hope for a major regression by Quinnipiac and the rest of the ECAC in the next five years. Thank you!

I think Q will continue to reload every year, at least as long as That Man is there.

They're just a feature of the natural environment at this point. Going in to this year it was going to be us and them and, well, funny story.

Whether it takes 1 year or 4 to rebuild our way back to excellence, we'll be seeing them up there when we get there.

BearLover
Tonight Quinnipiac won its 5th clearly cup in a row. Since 2013 they have a national championship and 2 ncaa finals appearances, and they have come in first place in the ECAC 9/13 years. They’ve clearly surpassed Cornell at this point. People on here can cope about them having no academic standards, and that’s true, but the same is true for almost every D-1 hockey school and many of the schools in the ECAC. Let’s all hope for a major regression by Quinnipiac and the rest of the ECAC in the next five years. Thank you!

During those past five years, the Ivies have been playing by different eligibility rules. Q has four grads on their roster. Three came from Ohio State, UMass, and North Dakota. Getting players at this developmental level, with an extra year of experience, and that experience coming from highly competitive experiences, on top of having an extra year of physical development, matters.

During those same five years, Cornell was robbed of at title in 2020, and sat out 2021. We, just this year, had seniors who got to spend four straight years playing.

Is that the sole reason for the difference? I don't think so. But it's an important one.

During that time, each team has one conference tournament title. So an alternate question, if Cleary Cups define excellence, is why can't such a dominant team win the tournament more often? Something must be really wrong with their program.

pjd8
Cornell was robbed of at title in 2020, and sat out 2021.

Thanks for bringing us back to 2020.

At the end of the year we were projected as a FF team.

I wonder how all of this negative discussion would have been if we'd won the ECACs and got to the FF?

It wasn't guaranteed, but was reasonable.

Jim Hyla

pjd8
Cornell was robbed of at title in 2020, and sat out 2021.

Thanks for bringing us back to 2020.

At the end of the year we were projected as a FF team.

I wonder how all of this negative discussion would have been if we'd won the ECACs and got to the FF?

It wasn't guaranteed, but was reasonable.

I think you may actually be understating this a hair, Jim. Unless my memory is wrong (and it may well be) I think at the end of 2020 we were first in the polls and second in pairwise. If that is correct you could make the argument that we were actually projected to make the championship game!

andyw2100

Jim Hyla

pjd8
Cornell was robbed of at title in 2020, and sat out 2021.

Thanks for bringing us back to 2020.

At the end of the year we were projected as a FF team.

I wonder how all of this negative discussion would have been if we'd won the ECACs and got to the FF?

It wasn't guaranteed, but was reasonable.

I think you may actually be understating this a hair, Jim. Unless my memory is wrong (and it may well be) I think at the end of 2020 we were first in the polls and second in pairwise. If that is correct you could make the argument that we were actually projected to make the championship game!

Thanks, I think you're correct, but didn't want to check it to be sure.

Indeed projected to Championship game does emphasize how good we were then.

And for some of us makes us feel better about our teams over the years.

Smith fired at RPI

Well, he can't claim they didn't give him enough time, 7 yrs of 12-22 type records on avg

Hey, RPI made the playoffs every year with Smith at the helm, I don’t know what more they want.

RichH
Hey, RPI made the playoffs every year with Smith at the helm, I don’t know what more they want.

Not in 2021 they didn't.

marty
Smith fired at RPI

When you lose to Harvard in the playoffs in the year of our lord 2025... [knocks on wood]

stereax

marty
Smith fired at RPI

When you lose to Harvard in the playoffs in the year of our lord 2025... [knocks on wood]

RPI alum Andrew Lord has indeed been mentioned as a possibility. He is currently coaching in Halifax (QMJHL).

RichH
Hey, RPI made the playoffs every year with Smith at the helm, I don’t know what more they want.

LOL

Clarkson scores with 27 seconds left to go up 3-2

ugarte
Clarkson scores with 27 seconds left to go up 3-2

And Harvard still sucks!

Jeff Hopkins '82

ugarte
Clarkson shoes with 27 seconds left to go up 3-2

And Harvard still sucks!

come on man i tried to edit that

I fixed my post. You can fix yours.

Jeff Hopkins '82
I fixed my post. You can fix yours.

no! I'm not actually upset.

All other games now final. Q, Clarkson, and Dartmouth win.

Jeff Hopkins '82

ugarte
Clarkson scores with 27 seconds left to go up 3-2

And Harvard still sucks!

Very bad outcome. It means Cornell gets Quinnipiac if tonight’s results repeat themselves tomorrow.

ugarte

Jeff Hopkins '82
I fixed my post. You can fix yours.

no! I'm not actually upset.

I know. But I still fixed my post.

UCONN scored en accidental ENG and Providence gets an unsportsmanlike penalty because the guy fruitlessly chasing the puck shoved the net into the boards in frustration. might have gotten the penalty anyway but having the net clip a ref guaranteed it.

BearLover

Jeff Hopkins '82

ugarte
Clarkson scores with 27 seconds left to go up 3-2

And Harvard still sucks!

Very bad outcome. It means Cornell gets Quinnipiac if tonight’s results repeat themselves tomorrow.

Doesn't matter. Gotta face them sometime.

20 in PWR. I know, I know.

13 Qpc
18 Clk
20 Cor
22 Drt
28 Cgt
32 Uni
42 Hvd
42 Brn

Trotsky

BearLover

Jeff Hopkins '82

ugarte
Clarkson scores with 27 seconds left to go up 3-2

And Harvard still sucks!

Very bad outcome. It means Cornell gets Quinnipiac if tonight’s results repeat themselves tomorrow.

Doesn't matter. Gotta face them sometime.

No. We didn’t have to face them last season because they lost in the semis.

Trotsky

BearLover

Jeff Hopkins '82

ugarte
Clarkson scores with 27 seconds left to go up 3-2

And Harvard still sucks!

Very bad outcome. It means Cornell gets Quinnipiac if tonight’s results repeat themselves tomorrow.

Doesn't matter. Gotta face them sometime.

Exactly.

BearLover

Trotsky

BearLover

Jeff Hopkins '82

ugarte
Clarkson scores with 27 seconds left to go up 3-2

And Harvard still sucks!

Very bad outcome. It means Cornell gets Quinnipiac if tonight’s results repeat themselves tomorrow.

Doesn't matter. Gotta face them sometime.

No. We didn’t have to face them last season because they lost in the semis.

Yeah I know but cmon this year if you want to completely obliterate all the demons what better way than Mike sending Rand home on a stretcher?

It's not a normal year. This season is haunted by ghosts, and there are only two endings: either Mike et al. pull off The Miracle to exceed Ned, or we fall short. So let's hasten unto the day. Win tomorrow night and CRY HAVOC!

Trotsky

BearLover

Trotsky

BearLover

Jeff Hopkins '82

ugarte
Clarkson scores with 27 seconds left to go up 3-2

And Harvard still sucks!

Very bad outcome. It means Cornell gets Quinnipiac if tonight’s results repeat themselves tomorrow.

Doesn't matter. Gotta face them sometime.

No. We didn’t have to face them last season because they lost in the semis.

Yeah I know but cmon this year if you want to completely obliterate all the demons what better way than Mike sending Rand home on a stretcher?

It's not a normal year. This season is haunted by ghosts, and there are only two endings: either Mike et al. pull off The Miracle to exceed Ned, or we fall short. So let's hasten unto the day. Win tomorrow night and CRY HAVOC!

I want to win the ECAC and make the NCAA tournament in Mike’s final year, not have Mike’s career ended by Rand Pecknold.

Trotsky

BearLover

Trotsky

BearLover

Jeff Hopkins '82

ugarte
Clarkson scores with 27 seconds left to go up 3-2

And Harvard still sucks!

Very bad outcome. It means Cornell gets Quinnipiac if tonight’s results repeat themselves tomorrow.

Doesn't matter. Gotta face them sometime.

No. We didn’t have to face them last season because they lost in the semis.

Yeah I know but cmon this year if you want to completely obliterate all the demons what better way than Mike sending Rand home on a stretcher?

It's not a normal year. This season is haunted by ghosts, and there are only two endings: either Mike et al. pull off The Miracle to exceed Ned, or we fall short. So let's hasten unto the day. Win tomorrow night and CRY HAVOC!

"To exceed Ned"???

Ned went undefeated in his last year at Cornell. Mike's chance to exceed Ned ended last November.

BearLover

Trotsky

BearLover

Trotsky

BearLover

Jeff Hopkins '82

ugarte
Clarkson scores with 27 seconds left to go up 3-2

And Harvard still sucks!

Very bad outcome. It means Cornell gets Quinnipiac if tonight’s results repeat themselves tomorrow.

Doesn't matter. Gotta face them sometime.

No. We didn’t have to face them last season because they lost in the semis.

Yeah I know but cmon this year if you want to completely obliterate all the demons what better way than Mike sending Rand home on a stretcher?

It's not a normal year. This season is haunted by ghosts, and there are only two endings: either Mike et al. pull off The Miracle to exceed Ned, or we fall short. So let's hasten unto the day. Win tomorrow night and CRY HAVOC!

I want to win the ECAC and make the NCAA tournament in Mike’s final year, not have Mike’s career ended by Rand Pecknold.

As do I.

So let's stab the fucker in the face, as we did with Bill Cleary.

Never lose again.

If Cornell wins and no other upsets then we play Quin
If Cornell wins and colg/Clark both lose then we would miss Quin

Dart/Union it doesnt matter who wins

Swampy

Trotsky

BearLover

Trotsky

BearLover

Jeff Hopkins '82

ugarte
Clarkson scores with 27 seconds left to go up 3-2

And Harvard still sucks!

Very bad outcome. It means Cornell gets Quinnipiac if tonight’s results repeat themselves tomorrow.

Doesn't matter. Gotta face them sometime.

No. We didn’t have to face them last season because they lost in the semis.

Yeah I know but cmon this year if you want to completely obliterate all the demons what better way than Mike sending Rand home on a stretcher?

It's not a normal year. This season is haunted by ghosts, and there are only two endings: either Mike et al. pull off The Miracle to exceed Ned, or we fall short. So let's hasten unto the day. Win tomorrow night and CRY HAVOC!

"To exceed Ned"???

Ned went undefeated in his last year at Cornell. Mike's chance to exceed Ned ended last November.

During Ned, we played 90% of our games against Little Sisters of the Poor.

I love our history, but any future title is worth 100x our past titles.

upprdeck
If Cornell wins and no other upsets then we play Quin
If Cornell wins and colg/Clark both lose then we would miss Quin

Dart/Union it doesnt matter who wins

Trotsky

BearLover

Trotsky

BearLover

Trotsky

BearLover

Jeff Hopkins '82

ugarte
Clarkson scores with 27 seconds left to go up 3-2

And Harvard still sucks!

Very bad outcome. It means Cornell gets Quinnipiac if tonight’s results repeat themselves tomorrow.

Doesn't matter. Gotta face them sometime.

No. We didn’t have to face them last season because they lost in the semis.

Yeah I know but cmon this year if you want to completely obliterate all the demons what better way than Mike sending Rand home on a stretcher?

It's not a normal year. This season is haunted by ghosts, and there are only two endings: either Mike et al. pull off The Miracle to exceed Ned, or we fall short. So let's hasten unto the day. Win tomorrow night and CRY HAVOC!

I want to win the ECAC and make the NCAA tournament in Mike’s final year, not have Mike’s career ended by Rand Pecknold.

As do I.

So let's stab the fucker in the face, as we did with Bill Cleary.

Never lose again.

This is obviously not worth engaging, but

Cornell is probably going to lose to Quinnipiac

That would be just about the saddest ending to Mike’s career possible

Winning the ECAC on a miracle run would be just about the happiest ending possible regardless of whether we have to beat Quinnipiac on the way

Ergo, it would be completely nuts to want to play Quinnipiac next round

BearLover

Trotsky

BearLover

Trotsky

BearLover

Trotsky

BearLover

Jeff Hopkins '82

ugarte
Clarkson scores with 27 seconds left to go up 3-2

And Harvard still sucks!

Very bad outcome. It means Cornell gets Quinnipiac if tonight’s results repeat themselves tomorrow.

Doesn't matter. Gotta face them sometime.

No. We didn’t have to face them last season because they lost in the semis.

Yeah I know but cmon this year if you want to completely obliterate all the demons what better way than Mike sending Rand home on a stretcher?

It's not a normal year. This season is haunted by ghosts, and there are only two endings: either Mike et al. pull off The Miracle to exceed Ned, or we fall short. So let's hasten unto the day. Win tomorrow night and CRY HAVOC!

I want to win the ECAC and make the NCAA tournament in Mike’s final year, not have Mike’s career ended by Rand Pecknold.

As do I.

So let's stab the fucker in the face, as we did with Bill Cleary.

Never lose again.

This is obviously not worth engaging, but

Cornell is probably going to lose to Quinnipiac

That would be just about the saddest ending to Mike’s career possible

Winning the ECAC on a miracle run would be just about the happiest ending possible regardless of whether we have to beat Quinnipiac on the way

Ergo, it would be completely nuts to want to play Quinnipiac next round

you sound like you are in the locker room at lake placid talking back to herb brooks

BearLover

Trotsky

BearLover

Trotsky

BearLover

Trotsky

BearLover

Jeff Hopkins '82

ugarte
Clarkson scores with 27 seconds left to go up 3-2

And Harvard still sucks!

Very bad outcome. It means Cornell gets Quinnipiac if tonight’s results repeat themselves tomorrow.

Doesn't matter. Gotta face them sometime.

No. We didn’t have to face them last season because they lost in the semis.

Yeah I know but cmon this year if you want to completely obliterate all the demons what better way than Mike sending Rand home on a stretcher?

It's not a normal year. This season is haunted by ghosts, and there are only two endings: either Mike et al. pull off The Miracle to exceed Ned, or we fall short. So let's hasten unto the day. Win tomorrow night and CRY HAVOC!

I want to win the ECAC and make the NCAA tournament in Mike’s final year, not have Mike’s career ended by Rand Pecknold.

As do I.

So let's stab the fucker in the face, as we did with Bill Cleary.

Never lose again.

This is obviously not worth engaging, but

Cornell is probably going to lose to Quinnipiac

That would be just about the saddest ending to Mike’s career possible

Winning the ECAC on a miracle run would be just about the happiest ending possible regardless of whether we have to beat Quinnipiac on the way

Ergo, it would be completely nuts to want to play Quinnipiac next round

The saddest ending would have been losing to Yale in a one-game elimination round while Schafer wasn't even on the bench because he took a puck to the head.

Schafer returned, and we didn't lose to Yale.

Attendance for Friday night's ECAC QF games was pretty poor, especially in Hamilton and Potsdam. Feels like the end of an era, and not just for Schafer.

imafrshmn
Attendance for Friday night's ECAC QF games was pretty poor, especially in Hamilton and Potsdam. Feels like the end of an era, and not just for Schafer.

I feel like that’s always the case for this round. Spring Break has already been mentioned as one reason. I don’t know if it’s still true, but I thought the league set ticket prices for this tournament? Always a killer at Clarkson where students got in for free during the regular season, but then had to pay to get into QF games. At Cornell, the QF tickets were sold as an “add on” option that a lot of people wouldn’t pay extra for when ordering season tickets in September.

imafrshmn
Attendance for Friday night's ECAC QF games was pretty poor, especially in Hamilton and Potsdam. Feels like the end of an era, and not just for Schafer.

Since when have Colgate or Clarkson had good crowds? Also it’s spring break I think. Aside from Cornell, attendance in the ECAC/most of college hockey is embarrassing and has been for a long time.

Imagine what the crowd would have been had Cornell not brought so many.

upprdeck
Imagine what the crowd would have been had Cornell not brought so many.

I'm guessing Cornell fans made up perhaps 1/4 to 1/3 of the crowd in Hamilton last night. Our band outnumbered their band three or four to one.

Yeah it didn't feel like the place was half full, But there were several hundred around the upper ring who never sat.

Other than the Cornell games they only get 800-1000 for most games anyway and how much of that is students.

andyw2100

upprdeck
Imagine what the crowd would have been had Cornell not brought so many.

I'm guessing Cornell fans made up perhaps 1/4 to 1/3 of the crowd in Hamilton last night. Our band outnumbered their band three or four to one.

Will the band do 50/50 today?

BearLover

imafrshmn
Attendance for Friday night's ECAC QF games was pretty poor, especially in Hamilton and Potsdam. Feels like the end of an era, and not just for Schafer.

Since when have Colgate or Clarkson had good crowds? Also it’s spring break I think. Aside from Cornell, attendance in the ECAC/most of college hockey is embarrassing and has been for a long time.

Clarkson’s a sad story, honestly. They used to have great crowds both home and away, second only to Cornell, but that ended with the Mark Morris scandals in the early 2000s (maybe late 90s?) and ensuing run of mediocre to poor results. They had a great program back in the day but it’s probably been 20 years since anybody would describe it as such.

Weren’t they on a bit of an upswing pre-covid or is that just me hoping Casey Jones is adequate replacement

underskill
Weren’t they on a bit of an upswing pre-covid or is that just me hoping Casey Jones is adequate replacement

They out-Schafer'd us for a bit although the one ECAC playoff game Big Red had some questionable calls go against them with the Malott and Galajda injuries.

Colgate wasn't the only team to get hit with a too many men on the ice penalty when trying to pull their goalie at the end of the game. The same thing happened to Union with 1:07 remaining in it's one-goal loss to Dartmouth. What are the odds are that happening in two games on the same night?

underskill
Weren’t they on a bit of an upswing pre-covid or is that just me hoping Casey Jones is adequate replacement

The three seasons before the pandemic interruptions, Clarkson finished 10th, 5th, and 9th in the Pairwise and captured an ECAC Championship.

RichH

underskill
Weren’t they on a bit of an upswing pre-covid or is that just me hoping Casey Jones is adequate replacement

The three seasons before the pandemic interruptions, Clarkson finished 10th, 5th, and 9th in the Pairwise and captured an ECAC Championship.

And crowd-wise, things haven't been the same since they moved from Walker to Cheel, which happened after 1990-91. It's an instructive example of what happens when you close an old barn and move to an antiseptic new "facility."

moving to a new building doesnt mean less people will come. In general though attendance is down all over for sports I do think the designers don't look at what makes a barn a barn though,

Scersk '97
And crowd-wise, things haven't been the same since they moved from Walker to Cheel, which happened after 1990-91. It's an instructive example of what happens when you close an old barn and move to an antiseptic new "facility."

This. So much this.

AP reports that University of Michigan is figuring out how to field a D1 women's ice hockey team. Annual costs don't seem to be an obstacle, but rather facilities. 101-year-old Yost Arena has limited space and ice time available.

David Harding
AP reports that University of Michigan is figuring out how to field a D1 women's ice hockey team. Annual costs don't seem to be an obstacle, but rather facilities. 101-year-old Yost Arena has limited space and ice time available.

current title ix enforcement means you can make them get into gear at home and hitchhike to road games.

RichH

imafrshmn
Attendance for Friday night's ECAC QF games was pretty poor, especially in Hamilton and Potsdam. Feels like the end of an era, and not just for Schafer.

I feel like that’s always the case for this round. Spring Break has already been mentioned as one reason. I don’t know if it’s still true, but I thought the league set ticket prices for this tournament? Always a killer at Clarkson where students got in for free during the regular season, but then had to pay to get into QF games. At Cornell, the QF tickets were sold as an “add on” option that a lot of people wouldn’t pay extra for when ordering season tickets in September.

Indeed. Every year at this time, someone laments the horrible crowd at one location and believes the program is coming to an end. And every year, it follows that someone(s) point out that this happens everywhere in the playoffs. Just last weekend, Minnesota -- which typically sells out 9,000/game -- had about 1/3rd that for a Big Ten playoff game.

Trotsky

Scersk '97
And crowd-wise, things haven't been the same since they moved from Walker to Cheel, which happened after 1990-91. It's an instructive example of what happens when you close an old barn and move to an antiseptic new "facility."

This. So much this.

Well Clarkson's attendance is 87% of capacity

We are 1% behind Q for % of capacity, but #1 in ECAC for average attendance, 1100 ahead of Q.

Clarkson is #3 in average attendance.

So I don't think they are complaining about their move.

Clarkson went from an 1800 seat to a 3000 seat and avg 2600. They are fine

If Cornell was still pre-reno we would probably be closer to selling out as well by a small amount.

I have the sad we don't sell out.

Hopefully time is a flat circle and someday Lynah will once again be the toughest ticket in town. Darwinian struggle for tickets = smaller % lofo facetime fans = more intense crowd.

But mostly I fear they'll destroy it when we leave Lynah someday. The aesthetic and commercial preferences driving decision-making have been slowly improving since they hit rock bottom about 2000, but we are still deep in the Mindless Greedy Barbarian cul de sac.

May Lynah last until after The Revolution.

Lynah isnt Lynah already.

No place to really put it on campus and if it goes off campus it becomes even less of a thing.

if they had the money leave it. see if some scheme can redo the concrete and the seating. reduce capacity about 10-15% if that works and remove 2 rows.

the problem being the townie side still sells pretty well.

SU just went thru this same issue but Lynah is even tighter.

General admission might help.

It would break up the "rentier" problem where certain unnamed groups essentially rope off sections of the building for themselves. This was I suppose excusable back in the days when those groups also brought their A game to participation, but like everything else it degenerated into a racket and now you get large dead areas where either they don't even show or spend the game on their iPacifiers, or play endless elaborate in-joke masturbation with each other.

The place for mutual masturbation is not Lynah, people. It is West Campus.

Offer also available at Risley. Bring your own sword.

ugarte

BearLover

Trotsky

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Jeff Hopkins '82

ugarte
Clarkson scores with 27 seconds left to go up 3-2

And Harvard still sucks!

Very bad outcome. It means Cornell gets Quinnipiac if tonight’s results repeat themselves tomorrow.

Doesn't matter. Gotta face them sometime.

No. We didn’t have to face them last season because they lost in the semis.

Yeah I know but cmon this year if you want to completely obliterate all the demons what better way than Mike sending Rand home on a stretcher?

It's not a normal year. This season is haunted by ghosts, and there are only two endings: either Mike et al. pull off The Miracle to exceed Ned, or we fall short. So let's hasten unto the day. Win tomorrow night and CRY HAVOC!

I want to win the ECAC and make the NCAA tournament in Mike’s final year, not have Mike’s career ended by Rand Pecknold.

As do I.

So let's stab the fucker in the face, as we did with Bill Cleary.

Never lose again.

This is obviously not worth engaging, but

Cornell is probably going to lose to Quinnipiac

That would be just about the saddest ending to Mike’s career possible

Winning the ECAC on a miracle run would be just about the happiest ending possible regardless of whether we have to beat Quinnipiac on the way

Ergo, it would be completely nuts to want to play Quinnipiac next round

you sound like you are in the locker room at lake placid talking back to herb brooks

If herb brooks had 16,000 posts on a college hockey internet forum.

Dear BL:

Aren't you happy about how fantastically well the team played last night?

Asking for a friend. XO

upprdeck
Lynah isnt Lynah already.

No place to really put it on campus and if it goes off campus it becomes even less of a thing.

if they had the money leave it. see if some scheme can redo the concrete and the seating. reduce capacity about 10-15% if that works and remove 2 rows.

the problem being the townie side still sells pretty well.

SU just went thru this same issue but Lynah is even tighter.

The last renovation made a couple of related things worse: capacity now exceeds demand (although if the prices hadn't doubled in the last 20 years, that might be different), so you don't get a packed house (and can't be confident about selling extra tickets). Plus, adding the extra rows (and boxes) up to the old outer wall means that moving between sections now means going out of the rink area and back in, where before you could still see the ice from behind the last row.

Does anyone have numbers on how often the attendance has exceeded the previous capacity of 3836?

Does the fact that all of the games are televised play some role in diminished attendance?

VIEWfromK
Does the fact that all of the games are televised play some role in diminished attendance?

I'd say yes because the need to travel to see away games is gone.

VIEWfromK
Does the fact that all of the games are televised play some role in diminished attendance?

Certainly.

marty

VIEWfromK
Does the fact that all of the games are televised play some role in diminished attendance?

I'd say yes because the need to travel to see away games is gone.

Though we could always hear them and hockey is great on the radio if you have a good PBP person.

Shout out to Northeastern for taking it to BC yesterday. Also Notre Dame loses to number 2 ranked MSU by a 1-0 score in Jeff Jackson's final game as head coach.

the reno did not have to mean the boxes had to end in a wall. that was a design idea that was dumb.

upprdeck
the reno did not have to mean the boxes had to end in a wall. that was a design idea that was dumb.

It was dumb but don't those walls hold up the building?

sure but that doesnt mean they have to be solid walls.

This has definitely come up before, but is the deal with Lynah that they can't really renovate the seating area too much more without having to make massive changes to bring it into compliance with modern building codes?

Dunno how interesting this is, and it's probably been covered somewhere else, but Minnesota State became the first team to clinch an NCAA bid (the CCHA auto-bid) last night.

The CCHA championship game isn't until Friday, but MSU's opponent in that game will be St. Thomas, which as part of their transition from D-III to D-I is ineligible for the D-I tournament until next year. So, win or lose, the bid goes to MSU.

upprdeck
sure but that doesnt mean they have to be solid walls.

But if you've ever been in the new Lynah, or looked at pictures, you'll see that the extra seats, boxes or on the student side (such as where the band goes), occupy the old area that we used to be able to walk in. So those seats end up being higher than floor level. Even with open walls you couldn't see much, if anything, other than the backs of fans heads.

Watching Game 3 of the QF between Clarkson and Harvard this afternoon...

To recap the stakes for Cornell:

If Harvard, the 7 seed wins, they will face (1) Quinnipiac in the SF and (6) Cornell will get (5) Dartmouth...
If Clarkson wins, as 2 seed, Cornell will face Quinnipiac in the SF.

imafrshmn
Watching Game 3 of the QF between Clarkson and Harvard this afternoon...

To recap the stakes for Cornell:

If Harvard, the 7 seed wins, they will face (1) Quinnipiac in the SF and (6) Cornell will get (5) Dartmouth...
If Clarkson wins, as 2 seed, Cornell will face Quinnipiac in the SF.

I assume Cornell/Dartmouth would be the late game (7) And Cornell/Q would be the early game (4).

Cornell women play at 5. Host Minnesota has the late game.

Chris '03

imafrshmn
Watching Game 3 of the QF between Clarkson and Harvard this afternoon...

To recap the stakes for Cornell:

If Harvard, the 7 seed wins, they will face (1) Quinnipiac in the SF and (6) Cornell will get (5) Dartmouth...
If Clarkson wins, as 2 seed, Cornell will face Quinnipiac in the SF.

I assume Cornell/Dartmouth would be the late game (7) And Cornell/Q would be the early game (4).

Cornell women play at 5. Host Minnesota has the late game.

The hockey gods have made it clear: we must root for Harvard today.

marty
Shout out to Northeastern for taking it to BC yesterday. Also Notre Dame loses to number 2 ranked MSU by a 1-0 score in Jeff Jackson's final game as head coach.

I watched the last period of this game. Intense, to say the least. It was great to see Northeastern take it to BC in Conte, and it's the first time a #9 seed has made it to the Garden. Would love to see them get the cup and the NCAA bid, especially since Q is now high enough in Pairwise that they should still get a bid even if they don't win it all in Placid, so an upset would mean the ECAC has the potential of two bids.

And if Q didn't get a bid, I wouldn't cry.

Harvard wins in OT, so we’ll play Dartmouth.

Harvard up 1-0 over Clarkson after a shorthanded breakaway goal. Mick Thompson is a very good player and is only a freshman. Could be very scary in the next few years

George64
Harvard wins in OT, so we’ll play Dartmouth.

Not yet. Harvard leads 1-0 in game 3 late in the 1st.

scoop85

George64
Harvard wins in OT, so we’ll play Dartmouth.

Not yet. Harvard leads 1-0 in game 3 late in the 1st.

scoop85

George64
Harvard wins in OT, so we’ll play Dartmouth.

Not yet. Harvard leads 1-0 in game 3 late in the 1st.

God, it's a cold day in hell, I'm rooting for Harvard...

Agree on the cold day.

I want us to play Dartmouth, but not because I don't think we can beat Q-Pak. WE CAN.

Need revenge on Dartmouth for their humiliating us at Lynah. They should also reimburse me for the extra glasses of rosé I needed to wash away that game at the Statler Bar.

I've kept the receipt.

Venmo works for me

George64
Harvard wins in OT, so we’ll play Dartmouth.

The ECAC website, which is terrible BTW, had last night's score in the spot for today's game 3, even though it hadn't been played yet.

Chousnake

George64
Harvard wins in OT, so we’ll play Dartmouth.

The ECAC website, which is terrible BTW, had last night's score in the spot for today's game 3, even though it hadn't been played yet.

The Ivy website is worse.

The NC$$ site is worst.

It is remarkable to me that with all the incredible people out there doing great work, the leagues themselves are employing some fat donor's idiot son or something because they really do all look like shit.

Daddy's Money holds out for another period.

Still 1-0 Sucks after 2.

JFC, Cheel is empty.