Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
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Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: marty (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: June 26, 2025 04:30PM
upprdeck
So kids are drafted hoping they will be good.. If they do play well the team has to sign them or they go back into the pool? How is that a bad thing?
I might not understand what you mean but the problem is that once you are 22 the NHL team will try to sign you - if they want you - and this is without worries as to whether you will graduate. I would think it's a bad thing if the rules push the NHL teams to sign the players before they graduate.
But would some of the younger players be less likely to have pressure to sign. If one doesn't turn 22 until senior year then wouldn't the new rule be less likely to cause the player to leave early? Granted this is a subset of the whole universe of potential draftees.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: fastforward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: June 26, 2025 05:09PM
I wonder how many of our draft picks will turn 22 this season and if we risk losing any before the season starts
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: adamw (---.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
Date: June 26, 2025 05:36PM
one thing that might happen, is NHL teams will be less likely to take NCAA-bound players in the later rounds.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: chimpfood (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: June 26, 2025 06:43PM
Absolutely, was just thinking that this hurts the chances of DiGiulian and Cournoyer getting drafted (but I guess helps us). Does anyone know if players drafted under the old rules are going to be immediately subject to the new ones or will there be grandfathering in? This is relevant for some of our draftees like Fegaras, Devlin, Walsh and Fisher who are already 21 with multiple years ofadamw
one thing that might happen, is NHL teams will be less likely to take NCAA-bound players in the later rounds.
NCAA eligibility remaining.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-229-48.myvzw.com)
Date: June 26, 2025 07:32PM
Seems like it would be a complete disaster for existing players to be grandfathered in. Imagine a 23-y/o draft pick whose rights are suddenly expired.chimpfood
Absolutely, was just thinking that this hurts the chances of DiGiulian and Cournoyer getting drafted (but I guess helps us). Does anyone know if players drafted under the old rules are going to be immediately subject to the new ones or will there be grandfathering in? This is relevant for some of our draftees like Fegaras, Devlin, Walsh and Fisher who are already 21 with multiple years ofadamw
one thing that might happen, is NHL teams will be less likely to take NCAA-bound players in the later rounds.
NCAA eligibility remaining.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: abmarks (68.216.63.---)
Date: June 28, 2025 03:52AM
BearLover
Seems like it would be a complete disaster for existing players to be grandfathered in. Imagine a 23-y/o draft pick whose rights are suddenly expired.chimpfood
Absolutely, was just thinking that this hurts the chances of DiGiulian and Cournoyer getting drafted (but I guess helps us). Does anyone know if players drafted under the old rules are going to be immediately subject to the new ones or will there be grandfathering in? This is relevant for some of our draftees like Fegaras, Devlin, Walsh and Fisher who are already 21 with multiple years ofadamw
one thing that might happen, is NHL teams will be less likely to take NCAA-bound players in the later rounds.
NCAA eligibility remaining.
I must be missing something. What's the downside to free agency vs. being locked to the team that drafted you? If you get drafted by Carolina (to pick a team at random), their exclusivity expires and you become a free agent, how's that hurt you?
If Carolina really really wants to not lose you, they might well be motivated to overpay you to sign before you are a free agent, I'll grant that point. But nothing prevents Carolina from signing you a year later and if you're any good at that point a year later you may well have multiple teams interested and will then actually have a choice in what the best fit is, plus the competitive bidding that might be involved.
The only guys I see it hurting would be players who were drafted but as the rights near expiration they have underperformed significantly versus expectation. It seems plausible that some of those underperformers would make a little more money short-term because a team didn't want to have completely wasted draft pick then at player might receive trying to hook up as a free agent given that they had underperformed.
Someone please fill in the banks for me...
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: June 28, 2025 11:29AM
Pretty much the marginal players have to bank on themselves. They wait and play in college and hope to get better and improve a contract. If you get to the end and you have not done so, then you are more desperate to sign or else give up the dream. If you play well signing makes no sense with no control of where you might go.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-229-85.myvzw.com)
Date: June 28, 2025 05:01PM
It’s pretty clearly a complete disaster for the teams that drafted the players? For the teams that traded for those player?abmarks
BearLover
Seems like it would be a complete disaster for existing players to be grandfathered in. Imagine a 23-y/o draft pick whose rights are suddenly expired.chimpfood
Absolutely, was just thinking that this hurts the chances of DiGiulian and Cournoyer getting drafted (but I guess helps us). Does anyone know if players drafted under the old rules are going to be immediately subject to the new ones or will there be grandfathering in? This is relevant for some of our draftees like Fegaras, Devlin, Walsh and Fisher who are already 21 with multiple years ofadamw
one thing that might happen, is NHL teams will be less likely to take NCAA-bound players in the later rounds.
NCAA eligibility remaining.
I must be missing something. What's the downside to free agency vs. being locked to the team that drafted you? If you get drafted by Carolina (to pick a team at random), their exclusivity expires and you become a free agent, how's that hurt you?
If Carolina really really wants to not lose you, they might well be motivated to overpay you to sign before you are a free agent, I'll grant that point. But nothing prevents Carolina from signing you a year later and if you're any good at that point a year later you may well have multiple teams interested and will then actually have a choice in what the best fit is, plus the competitive bidding that might be involved.
The only guys I see it hurting would be players who were drafted but as the rights near expiration they have underperformed significantly versus expectation. It seems plausible that some of those underperformers would make a little more money short-term because a team didn't want to have completely wasted draft pick then at player might receive trying to hook up as a free agent given that they had underperformed.
Someone please fill in the banks for me...
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: adamw (---.sub-174-193-135.myvzw.com)
Date: June 28, 2025 06:01PM
FYI Frank Seravalli - who most likely has the CBA deal sitting in front of him - is saying something different about draft rights (that basically nothing will change). I spent a bunch of time at the draft trying to get more specifics, but couldn't - so - stay tuned.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: Trotsky (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date: June 29, 2025 12:04AM
I don't see a good argument against this rule so far. The idea of the timeout is NHL teams can't throttle players' careers by holding their rights indefinitely. If the player develops sufficiently he should move up and into the pro system. If they can't come to terms, the player becomes a UFA and can shop himself to the whole league.
The rules are there to protect the drafting team but also prevent them from stockpiling. Seems like a good balance to me.
For the NC$$, unless I am misinterpreting, it introduces greater risk for Q'ing players by delaying their freshman season until their first prostate exam. Younger players are safer from being coaxed away to the pros.
Or am I missing something?
The rules are there to protect the drafting team but also prevent them from stockpiling. Seems like a good balance to me.
For the NC$$, unless I am misinterpreting, it introduces greater risk for Q'ing players by delaying their freshman season until their first prostate exam. Younger players are safer from being coaxed away to the pros.
Or am I missing something?
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-229-85.myvzw.com)
Date: June 29, 2025 10:17AM
Neither we nor Quinnipiac are getting the truly high-end players who sign pro after one or two college seasons. Cornell/Q get players taken in the third round and beyond who rarely sign until their junior or senior year is complete. This new draft eligibility rule would lead to:Trotsky
For the NC$$, unless I am misinterpreting, it introduces greater risk for Q'ing players by delaying their freshman season until their first prostate exam. Younger players are safer from being coaxed away to the pros.
Or am I missing something?
—players going straight to college even if they aren’t ready and would benefit from a year of juniors
—players like Ryan Walsh, Xavier Veilleux, Alexis Cournoyer, Colin Greening, many others having a maximum three years at Cornell before their draft teams sign them, assuming they are good enough to sign [I’m using these four players merely as an example; likely the old rule will be grandfathered in for at least Walsh and Veilleux]
—fewer players staying four years and graduating from college in general. Under the new rule, there will be greater desire by NHL teams to sign these players before their senior year, and players will have to choose between completing school and going pro/big payday, whereas under the prior rule it was very possible to do both
I’m not making a normative claim over what’s fairer or better for the players; I’m commenting from the perspective of how it will affect college hockey teams. Since most of our draft picks are long-shots to have a long NHL career, I’d personally prefer a rule that lets them stay in college for longer.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-229-85.myvzw.com)
Date: June 29, 2025 10:26AM
Another example of the silliness of this rule is Cole Tuminaro: he was ranked by NHL Central Scouting before this season. He missed the entire year to injury and wasn’t drafted. If next year he has a strong season and gets drafted in his second year of eligibility, he’ll only have three years at Cornell before getting signed.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: stereax (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: June 29, 2025 12:37PM
I think it's still up in the air exactly how it's going to work - I heard that if a player is in the NCAA, the team will retain rights past 22 until I think either 30 days after four years of college or 30 days after the player declares intent to no longer play college. But I might be mistaken.BearLover
Neither we nor Quinnipiac are getting the truly high-end players who sign pro after one or two college seasons. Cornell/Q get players taken in the third round and beyond who rarely sign until their junior or senior year is complete. This new draft eligibility rule would lead to:Trotsky
For the NC$$, unless I am misinterpreting, it introduces greater risk for Q'ing players by delaying their freshman season until their first prostate exam. Younger players are safer from being coaxed away to the pros.
Or am I missing something?
—players going straight to college even if they aren’t ready and would benefit from a year of juniors
—players like Ryan Walsh, Xavier Veilleux, Alexis Cournoyer, Colin Greening, many others having a maximum three years at Cornell before their draft teams sign them, assuming they are good enough to sign [I’m using these four players merely as an example; likely the old rule will be grandfathered in for at least Walsh and Veilleux]
—fewer players staying four years and graduating from college in general. Under the new rule, there will be greater desire by NHL teams to sign these players before their senior year, and players will have to choose between completing school and going pro/big payday, whereas under the prior rule it was very possible to do both
I’m not making a normative claim over what’s fairer or better for the players; I’m commenting from the perspective of how it will affect college hockey teams. Since most of our draft picks are long-shots to have a long NHL career, I’d personally prefer a rule that lets them stay in college for longer.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: marty (---.sub-174-234-103.myvzw.com)
Date: June 29, 2025 01:45PM
stereax
I think it's still up in the air exactly how it's going to work - I heard that if a player is in the NCAA, the team will retain rights past 22 until I think either 30 days after four years of college or 30 days after the player declares intent to no longer play college. But I might be mistaken.BearLover
Neither we nor Quinnipiac are getting the truly high-end players who sign pro after one or two college seasons. Cornell/Q get players taken in the third round and beyond who rarely sign until their junior or senior year is complete. This new draft eligibility rule would lead to:Trotsky
For the NC$$, unless I am misinterpreting, it introduces greater risk for Q'ing players by delaying their freshman season until their first prostate exam. Younger players are safer from being coaxed away to the pros.
Or am I missing something?
—players going straight to college even if they aren’t ready and would benefit from a year of juniors
—players like Ryan Walsh, Xavier Veilleux, Alexis Cournoyer, Colin Greening, many others having a maximum three years at Cornell before their draft teams sign them, assuming they are good enough to sign [I’m using these four players merely as an example; likely the old rule will be grandfathered in for at least Walsh and Veilleux]
—fewer players staying four years and graduating from college in general. Under the new rule, there will be greater desire by NHL teams to sign these players before their senior year, and players will have to choose between completing school and going pro/big payday, whereas under the prior rule it was very possible to do both
I’m not making a normative claim over what’s fairer or better for the players; I’m commenting from the perspective of how it will affect college hockey teams. Since most of our draft picks are long-shots to have a long NHL career, I’d personally prefer a rule that lets them stay in college for longer.
I hope so. This makes sense and not really akin to suing your orthodontist three years after you reach the age of majority - but what is?
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: adamw (---.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
Date: June 30, 2025 03:06AM
stereax
I think it's still up in the air exactly how it's going to work - I heard that if a player is in the NCAA, the team will retain rights past 22 until I think either 30 days after four years of college or 30 days after the player declares intent to no longer play college. But I might be mistaken.BearLover
Neither we nor Quinnipiac are getting the truly high-end players who sign pro after one or two college seasons. Cornell/Q get players taken in the third round and beyond who rarely sign until their junior or senior year is complete. This new draft eligibility rule would lead to:Trotsky
For the NC$$, unless I am misinterpreting, it introduces greater risk for Q'ing players by delaying their freshman season until their first prostate exam. Younger players are safer from being coaxed away to the pros.
Or am I missing something?
—players going straight to college even if they aren’t ready and would benefit from a year of juniors
—players like Ryan Walsh, Xavier Veilleux, Alexis Cournoyer, Colin Greening, many others having a maximum three years at Cornell before their draft teams sign them, assuming they are good enough to sign [I’m using these four players merely as an example; likely the old rule will be grandfathered in for at least Walsh and Veilleux]
—fewer players staying four years and graduating from college in general. Under the new rule, there will be greater desire by NHL teams to sign these players before their senior year, and players will have to choose between completing school and going pro/big payday, whereas under the prior rule it was very possible to do both
I’m not making a normative claim over what’s fairer or better for the players; I’m commenting from the perspective of how it will affect college hockey teams. Since most of our draft picks are long-shots to have a long NHL career, I’d personally prefer a rule that lets them stay in college for longer.
This is what Frank Seravalli reported while we were at the draft. Which basically means nothing would change. Now, Frank Seravalli knows more than any of us put together about what's going on - and like I said, was probably reading directly from the draft CBA. But it would contradict everything I've about what the point of the new CBA is on this point -- which is the make things simpler and uniform for all players. So I've been trying to get clarification.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/30/2025 03:06AM by adamw.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: stereax (172.59.214.---)
Date: June 30, 2025 07:44AM
Seravalli's a fucking hack... hate the guy since he went to bat for Bowman and Quenneville... but we'll see.adamw
stereax
I think it's still up in the air exactly how it's going to work - I heard that if a player is in the NCAA, the team will retain rights past 22 until I think either 30 days after four years of college or 30 days after the player declares intent to no longer play college. But I might be mistaken.BearLover
Neither we nor Quinnipiac are getting the truly high-end players who sign pro after one or two college seasons. Cornell/Q get players taken in the third round and beyond who rarely sign until their junior or senior year is complete. This new draft eligibility rule would lead to:Trotsky
For the NC$$, unless I am misinterpreting, it introduces greater risk for Q'ing players by delaying their freshman season until their first prostate exam. Younger players are safer from being coaxed away to the pros.
Or am I missing something?
—players going straight to college even if they aren’t ready and would benefit from a year of juniors
—players like Ryan Walsh, Xavier Veilleux, Alexis Cournoyer, Colin Greening, many others having a maximum three years at Cornell before their draft teams sign them, assuming they are good enough to sign [I’m using these four players merely as an example; likely the old rule will be grandfathered in for at least Walsh and Veilleux]
—fewer players staying four years and graduating from college in general. Under the new rule, there will be greater desire by NHL teams to sign these players before their senior year, and players will have to choose between completing school and going pro/big payday, whereas under the prior rule it was very possible to do both
I’m not making a normative claim over what’s fairer or better for the players; I’m commenting from the perspective of how it will affect college hockey teams. Since most of our draft picks are long-shots to have a long NHL career, I’d personally prefer a rule that lets them stay in college for longer.
This is what Frank Seravalli reported while we were at the draft. Which basically means nothing would change. Now, Frank Seravalli knows more than any of us put together about what's going on - and like I said, was probably reading directly from the draft CBA. But it would contradict everything I've about what the point of the new CBA is on this point -- which is the make things simpler and uniform for all players. So I've been trying to get clarification.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-229-67.myvzw.com)
Date: June 30, 2025 04:33PM
Quinnipiac’s incoming class of ten players consists of:
7 overagers from the CHL
1 transfer from RPI
1 draft pick (Matthew Lansing) from the USHL
1 goalie from the NAHL
The strategy of importing old players continues, now focused on the CHL rather than grad transfers.
Of the 10 players in this year’s class, 8 committed since 12/9/24 (i.e. in the last 6.5 months). How many recruits were told not to come, or pushed back a year, to make room for all these new commitments?
7 overagers from the CHL
1 transfer from RPI
1 draft pick (Matthew Lansing) from the USHL
1 goalie from the NAHL
The strategy of importing old players continues, now focused on the CHL rather than grad transfers.
Of the 10 players in this year’s class, 8 committed since 12/9/24 (i.e. in the last 6.5 months). How many recruits were told not to come, or pushed back a year, to make room for all these new commitments?
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: Trotsky (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date: June 30, 2025 10:35PM
BearLover
Quinnipiac’s incoming class of ten players consists of:
7 overagers from the CHL
1 transfer from RPI
1 draft pick (Matthew Lansing) from the USHL
1 goalie from the NAHL
video: [www.youtube.com]
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Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: chimpfood (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: July 02, 2025 10:31PM
Clarkson already managed to lose their star goalie recruit, Jackson Parsons. Has already been mentioned by Adam and Mike McMahon but I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of these CHL guys flake on college teams halfway through the year because they aren’t getting the playing time or development that they’re looking for.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: The Rancor (73.214.97.---)
Date: July 03, 2025 09:15AM
chimpfood
Clarkson already managed to lose their star goalie recruit, Jackson Parsons. Has already been mentioned by Adam and Mike McMahon but I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of these CHL guys flake on college teams halfway through the year because they aren’t getting the playing time or development that they’re looking for.
The 29-34 game regular season is pretty short for goalies in particular, or a skater looking for valuable on ice experience. One of many pluses and minuses that hockey players have had to think about before going NCAA. There's so much about the new rules right now have to shake out.
Will NCAA skaters go play for CHL teams over break? Go skate for them after the regular season or playoff runs are over and return next year? What about CHL players that get called up to the NHL and are returned before the 9 game limit? Can they play NCAA hockey?
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: stereax (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: July 03, 2025 09:29AM
This one I can answer for you: no. NCAA requires that you not have signed a professional sports contract; those players on 9-game tryouts have.The Rancor
What about CHL players that get called up to the NHL and are returned before the 9 game limit? Can they play NCAA hockey?
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: Trotsky (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date: July 04, 2025 12:18AM
The Rancor
Will NCAA skaters go play for CHL teams over break?
No. Ignoring the dislocating effect, the CHL does not want them.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: marty (---.frntdeu1.pop.starlinkisp.net)
Date: July 09, 2025 08:58PM
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: Trotsky (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date: July 10, 2025 08:34PM
"I know how this one ends." --Windows, The Thing
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: jts15 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: July 18, 2025 10:29AM
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: adamw (---.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
Date: July 21, 2025 01:44PM
to clarify - assistant for the Hlinka Cup team at that tournament in August. Not the actual U-18 team, which is a permanent position.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: Trotsky (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date: July 22, 2025 04:14PM
Still pretty cool. Congrats, Ben.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: July 25, 2025 01:04AM
RPI lost a recruit, Joseph Henneberry (Cape Breton, QMJHL) to Merrimack because Merrimack offered him money. Someone sent me a message with the amount which I can't post, but I will say that I don't blame him for taking it. I do wonder why Merrimack is doing this. They will still be at or near the bottom of HEA.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/25/2025 01:15PM by ursusminor.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: July 25, 2025 11:28AM
These new NIL rules are going to make it hard to justify many of these amounts.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: adamw (---.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
Date: July 25, 2025 06:11PM
upprdeck
These new NIL rules are going to make it hard to justify many of these amounts.
Which rules? Because they change daily.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: Trotsky (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date: July 26, 2025 02:50PM
Watching the transition of college sports from the prior time-honored form of hypocrisy to the next is heart-warming. The green shoots of new corrupt life.
Academia truly is the world in microcosm. Apes shivving each other for sex and money, all the while blatting on about Core Values.
Academia truly is the world in microcosm. Apes shivving each other for sex and money, all the while blatting on about Core Values.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/26/2025 02:52PM by Trotsky.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: 617BigRed (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: July 29, 2025 04:33PM
Trotsky
Watching the transition of college sports from the prior time-honored form of hypocrisy to the next is heart-warming. The green shoots of new corrupt life.
Academia truly is the world in microcosm. Apes shivving each other for sex and money, all the while blatting on about Core Values.
We love you Trotsky, never change! : )
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: Give My Regards (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: July 30, 2025 09:37AM
617BigRed
Trotsky
Watching the transition of college sports from the prior time-honored form of hypocrisy to the next is heart-warming. The green shoots of new corrupt life.
Academia truly is the world in microcosm. Apes shivving each other for sex and money, all the while blatting on about Core Values.
We love you Trotsky, never change! : )
I dunno, he used to be a lot more cynical

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Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: Trotsky (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date: July 30, 2025 10:14PM
You know what they say: once you can fake authenticity you can fake anything.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: jts15 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: August 08, 2025 11:36AM
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Posted by: marty (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: August 08, 2025 12:20PM
With apologies to the Faithful:
"THE WHALE IS IN NEW HAVEN
THE WHALE IS IN NEW HAVEN"
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: Trotsky (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date: August 08, 2025 12:28PM
I wonder when the tyranny of scoreboards and video will end. All hemlines change. There will come a day when this is all exposed as obscene and baroque and we go minimalism, or at least some type of nostalgic minimalist revival. (Yes, I know, likely equally cringe and rancid.)
You actually can have comfortable seats without the incessant idiocy of machine-generated noise and lights, at the same time. It is conceivable.
You actually can have comfortable seats without the incessant idiocy of machine-generated noise and lights, at the same time. It is conceivable.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/08/2025 12:29PM by Trotsky.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: marty (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: August 08, 2025 12:38PM
Trotsky
I wonder when the tyranny of scoreboards and video will end. All hemlines change. There will come a day when this is all exposed as obscene and baroque and we go minimalism, or at least some type of nostalgic minimalist revival. (Yes, I know, likely equally cringe and rancid.)
I'm holding out for a video display built into my cataract lens implant. Haven't decided which eye.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: TimV (73.17.147.---)
Date: August 08, 2025 12:48PM
"Fan engagement content..." The Kiss Cam comes to Yale 

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Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: RichH (104.28.76.---)
Date: August 08, 2025 03:28PM
Trotsky
I wonder when the tyranny of scoreboards and video will end. All hemlines change. There will come a day when this is all exposed as obscene and baroque and we go minimalism, or at least some type of nostalgic minimalist revival. (Yes, I know, likely equally cringe and rancid.)
You actually can have comfortable seats without the incessant idiocy of machine-generated noise and lights, at the same time. It is conceivable.
I was recently in the Newark Train Station (tee up your jokes) and the video status board was made to resemble the old and now rare flip-flip boards, complete with simulated motion and click-clack sounds. It was branded as a Solari product, which is the company that made the old mechanical boards. But it was actually a giant video screen.
[m.youtube.com]
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/08/2025 03:32PM by RichH.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 08, 2025 04:11PM
RichH
Trotsky
I wonder when the tyranny of scoreboards and video will end. All hemlines change. There will come a day when this is all exposed as obscene and baroque and we go minimalism, or at least some type of nostalgic minimalist revival. (Yes, I know, likely equally cringe and rancid.)
You actually can have comfortable seats without the incessant idiocy of machine-generated noise and lights, at the same time. It is conceivable.
I was recently in the Newark Train Station (tee up your jokes) and the video status board was made to resemble the old and now rare flip-flip boards, complete with simulated motion and click-clack sounds. It was branded as a Solari product, which is the company that made the old mechanical boards. But it was actually a giant video screen.
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The one in New Jersey or the one in Delaware?

Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: arugula (---.sub-174-216-209.myvzw.com)
Date: August 08, 2025 05:10PM
Comfortable seats-good
Video boards-almost always bad.
I would love to see nice clear scoreboard and clock and no video board. And no fan engagement content. I’m plenty content and engaged to watch the game
Video boards-almost always bad.
I would love to see nice clear scoreboard and clock and no video board. And no fan engagement content. I’m plenty content and engaged to watch the game
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: Trotsky (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date: August 08, 2025 05:47PM
IINM the new Penn Station board is like this too, right?RichH
Trotsky
I wonder when the tyranny of scoreboards and video will end. All hemlines change. There will come a day when this is all exposed as obscene and baroque and we go minimalism, or at least some type of nostalgic minimalist revival. (Yes, I know, likely equally cringe and rancid.)
You actually can have comfortable seats without the incessant idiocy of machine-generated noise and lights, at the same time. It is conceivable.
I was recently in the Newark Train Station (tee up your jokes) and the video status board was made to resemble the old and now rare flip-flip boards, complete with simulated motion and click-clack sounds. It was branded as a Solari product, which is the company that made the old mechanical boards. But it was actually a giant video screen.
[m.youtube.com]
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.229.167.165.res-cmts.sm3.ptd.net)
Date: August 08, 2025 06:00PM
I liked the old clicky-clack board in Frankfurt Airport. It made the time go by back in the days I didn't have lounge access.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: Trotsky (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date: August 08, 2025 06:22PM
Go to the old TWA Terminal at JFK they turned into a hotel. The board is glorious!Jeff Hopkins '82
I liked the old clicky-clack board in Frankfurt Airport. It made the time go by back in the days I didn't have lounge access.
Note: This is a serious recommendation for everyone in the NYC area, actually. Go there and get a drink in their Mad Men-like lounge. The aesthetics of the place are amazing -- you can see how cool public space used to be before The Great Stupefaction.
But don't stay the night; the rooms suck for the price.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.229.167.165.res-cmts.sm3.ptd.net)
Date: August 08, 2025 07:18PM
Trotsky
Go to the old TWA Terminal at JFK they turned into a hotel. The board is glorious!Jeff Hopkins '82
I liked the old clicky-clack board in Frankfurt Airport. It made the time go by back in the days I didn't have lounge access.
Note: This is a serious recommendation for everyone in the NYC area, actually. Go there and get a drink in their Mad Men-like lounge. The aesthetics of the place are amazing -- you can see how cool public space used to be before The Great Stupefaction.
But don't stay the night; the rooms suck for the price.
It's JFK. Everything sucks.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: dbilmes (64.224.255.---)
Date: August 08, 2025 09:26PM
Their sound system was terrible. This now means, though, that the piped-in music will be louder and played more often.
Too bad Cornell isn't doing anything about its useless video board in Lynah. They should just have it removed.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 09, 2025 12:55AM
Jeff Hopkins '82
Trotsky
Go to the old TWA Terminal at JFK they turned into a hotel. The board is glorious!Jeff Hopkins '82
I liked the old clicky-clack board in Frankfurt Airport. It made the time go by back in the days I didn't have lounge access.
Note: This is a serious recommendation for everyone in the NYC area, actually. Go there and get a drink in their Mad Men-like lounge. The aesthetics of the place are amazing -- you can see how cool public space used to be before The Great Stupefaction.
But don't stay the night; the rooms suck for the price.
It's JFK. Everything sucks.
Not as much as if they named an airport after his nephew RFK, Jr.
Re: Keith Allain out at Yale
Posted by: Ben Rocky '04 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 12, 2025 10:29AM
Re: Keith Allain out at Yale
Posted by: Will (---.cit.cornell.edu)
Date: August 12, 2025 10:45AM
Makes it seem like the Whale upgrade development came with the added question of "What have you done for us lately, coach?" The national championship is far enough in the past compared to no winning seasons since the return from COVID.
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Re: Keith Allain out at Yale
Posted by: Ben Rocky '04 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 12, 2025 10:50AM
Will
Makes it seem like the Whale upgrade development came with the added question of "What have you done for us lately, coach?" The national championship is far enough in the past compared to no winning seasons since the return from COVID.
Maybe.... but y'all the time to ask that question was April, not now. The turmoil from having this happen right before freshman arrive on campus will have impact on this season, not that anyone thinks they were going to be good, but it seems oddly callous for any hope of improvement.
Re: Keith Allain out at Yale
Posted by: Will (---.cit.cornell.edu)
Date: August 12, 2025 11:22AM
Also could've been a recent health development for Allain personally on top of everything else. Maybe dealing with the grief of a rink upgrade while trying to fix a team that's been down for four years is too much when he's also just been given a bad medical prognosis. Complete conjecture on my part, of course.Ben Rocky '04
Will
Makes it seem like the Whale upgrade development came with the added question of "What have you done for us lately, coach?" The national championship is far enough in the past compared to no winning seasons since the return from COVID.
Maybe.... but y'all the time to ask that question was April, not now. The turmoil from having this happen right before freshman arrive on campus will have impact on this season, not that anyone thinks they were going to be good, but it seems oddly callous for any hope of improvement.
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Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: stereax (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: August 12, 2025 03:06PM
But howwwwwww will we watch the Tompkins Trust Shuffle without a video board that barely shows the score, let alone any important replays of what's going on on the ice???dbilmes
Their sound system was terrible. This now means, though, that the piped-in music will be louder and played more often.
Too bad Cornell isn't doing anything about its useless video board in Lynah. They should just have it removed.
Re: Keith Allain out at Yale
Posted by: marty (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: August 12, 2025 05:29PM
Will
Makes it seem like the Whale upgrade development came with the added question of "What have you done for us lately, coach?" The national championship is far enough in the past compared to no winning seasons since the return from COVID.
He might have been tired of the year long grind like Mike.
There must be some inside Yale source we can tap to find out what really happened. I don't know why those in the know in New Haven didn't spill the tea here.
What can we do to encourage more inside gossip? We could lose our cred.

Re: Keith Allain out at Yale
Posted by: Trotsky (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date: August 12, 2025 08:34PM
I just assumed the timing was late enough to trap guys who could not plausibly transfer out this year. But I have worms in my soul.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: chimpfood (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: August 12, 2025 09:07PM
Joe Howe is the assistant coach that will take the reins as interim.
Speaking of the name, it’s crazy to me that Howe seems to have disappeared from the face of the earth after leaving Cornell. He was contending for our starting job as a freshman, surprised no other team thought he was worth taking.
Speaking of the name, it’s crazy to me that Howe seems to have disappeared from the face of the earth after leaving Cornell. He was contending for our starting job as a freshman, surprised no other team thought he was worth taking.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 12, 2025 09:57PM
If a profile I found on LinkedIn is to be believed, he's still at Cornell, ILR '26. Maybe not getting the starting spot made him decide to move on from hockey and get going on the rest of his life.chimpfood
Speaking of the name, it’s crazy to me that Howe seems to have disappeared from the face of the earth after leaving Cornell. He was contending for our starting job as a freshman, surprised no other team thought he was worth taking.
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Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: Trotsky (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date: August 13, 2025 02:06AM
"Our Howe's better" (clap) (clap) (clap clap clap)
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 13, 2025 10:35AM
FWIW, RPI has a new logo [www.alumni.rpi.edu] . I thought it was terrible until it was pointed out that it reads RPI, not Rensselaer, which is a distinct improvement.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.229.167.165.res-cmts.sm3.ptd.net)
Date: August 13, 2025 11:20AM
ursusminor
FWIW, RPI has a new logo [www.alumni.rpi.edu] . I thought it was terrible until it was pointed out that it reads RPI, not Rensselaer, which is a distinct improvement.
It's still better than Cornell's non-descript new logo.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 14, 2025 02:41PM
If anyone has over an hour to spend, a lengthy interview with RPI's coach Eric Lang. [www.rpifieldhouse.com]
New incoming player Matthew Jovanovic, a former Notre Dame recruit on D who has suffered through several injury-riddled seasons. [www.eliteprospects.com] Appears to be great if he has recovered to the degree that Lang states. Being a pessimist, I see the second coming of Kurt Wiesel, brother of Clarkson's Adam.
Now if the RPI women could get Matthew's sister, Sophie, who played goalie for the Toronto Marlboro's 16U boys team last season and had a 1.71 GAA. [www.youtube.com]
New incoming player Matthew Jovanovic, a former Notre Dame recruit on D who has suffered through several injury-riddled seasons. [www.eliteprospects.com] Appears to be great if he has recovered to the degree that Lang states. Being a pessimist, I see the second coming of Kurt Wiesel, brother of Clarkson's Adam.
Now if the RPI women could get Matthew's sister, Sophie, who played goalie for the Toronto Marlboro's 16U boys team last season and had a 1.71 GAA. [www.youtube.com]
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Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: marty (217.138.255.---)
Date: August 15, 2025 05:58AM
Union's Harbor Front Arena - M & T Bank Center rink unveiled.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: Trotsky (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date: August 15, 2025 07:01PM
Looks like Bright. Cut down the scoreboard, let Poors in the luxury boxes for free, and they have something.
Re: Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025
Posted by: marty (77.81.136.---)
Date: August 15, 2025 09:13PM
Trotsky
Looks like Bright. Cut down the scoreboard, let Poors in the luxury boxes for free, and they have something.
They did cut down the scoreboard from Messa and then moved it to the this gambling casino side-show - though that's not what you meant.
Besides, how are the Union students to know when to cheer without it?
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