Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025

UND lost, so Q is in as an at-large. Michigan also got eliminated with Cornell winning earlier.

Iceberg
UND lost, so Q is in as an at-large. Michigan also got eliminated with Cornell winning earlier.

Yep. And if we win tomorrow, Q finishes at 12, Penn State at 13, Mankato at 14, and Cornell at 15. Since Penn State must be in Allentown, the decision is whether to swap PSU and Mankato, which puts Mankato in Fargo and us in Toledo, or to swap PSU and Cornell, which puts us in Fargo and Mankato in Toledo. I suspect they will put Mankato in Fargo and us in Toledo (against Michigan State).

Brad Berry out as UND head coach.

Cooper Flinton has left Dartmouth early for the pros.

CU2007
Cooper Flinton has left Dartmouth early for the pros.

Luke Haymes too.

stereax

CU2007
Cooper Flinton has left Dartmouth early for the pros.

Luke Haymes too.

Trey Taylor Clarkson; John Prokop Union.

All 5 early ECAC departures so far are Juniors.

Trotsky

stereax

CU2007
Cooper Flinton has left Dartmouth early for the pros.

Luke Haymes too.

Trey Taylor Clarkson; John Prokop Union.

All 5 early ECAC departures so far are Juniors.

Im nervous about this happening with Walsh and castagna next year.

[www.prohockeyrumors.com]

sabres-sign-tyler-kopff-to-entry-level-deal

Minnesota got completely and utterly hosed by the refs in their game with UMass just now. If Cornell is going to lose, I just hope it isn’t like that.

BearLover
Minnesota got completely and utterly hosed by the refs in their game with UMass just now. If Cornell is going to lose, I just hope it isn’t like that.

They certainly did... and Gopher fans were justified in throwing trash on the ice at the end there. OT goal reviews should be able to adjudicate infractions in the buildup play... not sure what the official explanation was there.

imafrshmn

BearLover
Minnesota got completely and utterly hosed by the refs in their game with UMass just now. If Cornell is going to lose, I just hope it isn’t like that.

They certainly did... and Gopher fans were justified in throwing trash on the ice at the end there. OT goal reviews should be able to adjudicate infractions in the buildup play... not sure what the official explanation was there.

Didn't look as bad in the replay as it did in real time. looked more like a wipeout than a trip.

ugarte

imafrshmn

BearLover
Minnesota got completely and utterly hosed by the refs in their game with UMass just now. If Cornell is going to lose, I just hope it isn’t like that.

They certainly did... and Gopher fans were justified in throwing trash on the ice at the end there. OT goal reviews should be able to adjudicate infractions in the buildup play... not sure what the official explanation was there.

Didn't look as bad in the replay as it did in real time. looked more like a wipeout than a trip.

Still looked like a clear trip to me. Also I think there was a more blatant trip that went uncalled on an earlier UMass goal, and also the refs refused to delay play when Minn’s goalie’s equipment was malfunctioning.

ugarte

imafrshmn

BearLover
Minnesota got completely and utterly hosed by the refs in their game with UMass just now. If Cornell is going to lose, I just hope it isn’t like that.

They certainly did... and Gopher fans were justified in throwing trash on the ice at the end there. OT goal reviews should be able to adjudicate infractions in the buildup play... not sure what the official explanation was there.

Didn't look as bad in the replay as it did in real time. looked more like a wipeout than a trip.

Agreed, on replay didn’t look like much of a trip.

imafrshmn

BearLover
Minnesota got completely and utterly hosed by the refs in their game with UMass just now. If Cornell is going to lose, I just hope it isn’t like that.

They certainly did... and Gopher fans were justified in throwing trash on the ice at the end there. OT goal reviews should be able to adjudicate infractions in the buildup play... not sure what the official explanation was there.

I'm sure Schafer is delighted that Carusone got assigned to that game instead of ours!

imafrshmn

BearLover
Minnesota got completely and utterly hosed by the refs in their game with UMass just now. If Cornell is going to lose, I just hope it isn’t like that.

They certainly did... and Gopher fans were justified in throwing trash on the ice at the end there. OT goal reviews should be able to adjudicate infractions in the buildup play... not sure what the official explanation was there.

Taking another look at this sequence, i believe i was fooled. The contact was marginal and the Minny player really tried to sell it (a big no-no), the partisan crowd reacted strongly, and Minny was a bit lazy getting back in position. Refs got it right and we got a lesson in sports psychology. Still not a great way to end a tourney game.

imafrshmn

imafrshmn

BearLover
Minnesota got completely and utterly hosed by the refs in their game with UMass just now. If Cornell is going to lose, I just hope it isn’t like that.

They certainly did... and Gopher fans were justified in throwing trash on the ice at the end there. OT goal reviews should be able to adjudicate infractions in the buildup play... not sure what the official explanation was there.

Taking another look at this sequence, i believe i was fooled. The contact was marginal and the Minny player really tried to sell it (a big no-no), the partisan crowd reacted strongly, and Minny was a bit lazy getting back in position. Refs got it right and we got a lesson in sports psychology. Still not a great way to end a tourney game.

I don’t know, it still looked like a trip to me. The second UMass goal was off a far more egregious missed call, in any case.

imafrshmn

imafrshmn

BearLover
Minnesota got completely and utterly hosed by the refs in their game with UMass just now. If Cornell is going to lose, I just hope it isn’t like that.

They certainly did... and Gopher fans were justified in throwing trash on the ice at the end there. OT goal reviews should be able to adjudicate infractions in the buildup play... not sure what the official explanation was there.

Taking another look at this sequence, i believe i was fooled. The contact was marginal and the Minny player really tried to sell it (a big no-no), the partisan crowd reacted strongly, and Minny was a bit lazy getting back in position. Refs got it right and we got a lesson in sports psychology. Still not a great way to end a tourney game.

In the days before camera reviewed goals Cornell got scored on in the 2nd of the 1998 3 game ECAC tourney set at RPI. The puck was apparently in and out of the net so fast that the ref (in the days of one ref, I believe) didn't see it. Cornell got caught complaining and RPI skated down the ice to score and force a game 3 - which Cornell thankfully won.

Brown is getting absolutely ravaged by the portal and early departures. I think 3/4 of their top scorers and their starting goalie who put up a .917 sv% on a weak team are all leaving early via pro contract or portal. For a team that made strides this year but relied heavily on its goalie and top line, this is a disaster for them.

For our purposes though, the goalie, Lawton Zacher, could be a very realistic portal target. He has only played two years of college so he would be eligible to transfer here for his final two years. He is from Buffalo, NY. He’s coming from another Ivy. And we need a goalie. Seems like we should have a real shot at him, should the coaching staff choose to pursue it. This would require carrying four goalies on the roster next year, something we never do but other programs do. Seems like it’s mostly a question of how badly do we want to win next season versus upsetting team chemistry by taking in a goalie who would presumably play ahead of the three goalies who would already be here.

BearLover
Brown is getting absolutely ravaged by the portal and early departures. I think 3/4 of their top scorers and their starting goalie who put up a .917 sv% on a weak team are all leaving early via pro contract or portal. For a team that made strides this year but relied heavily on its goalie and top line, this is a disaster for them.

For our purposes though, the goalie, Lawton Zacher, could be a very realistic portal target. He has only played two years of college so he would be eligible to transfer here for his final two years. He is from Buffalo, NY. He’s coming from another Ivy. And we need a goalie. Seems like we should have a real shot at him, should the coaching staff choose to pursue it. This would require carrying four goalies on the roster next year, something we never do but other programs do. Seems like it’s mostly a question of how badly do we want to win next season versus upsetting team chemistry by taking in a goalie who would presumably play ahead of the three goalies who would already be here.

Hmm, I noticed that Lawton’s brother, Walter Zacher, a forward from RMU who put up good numbers, also just entered the portal. I wonder if they are a package deal. In any case, many kids who enter the portal already know where they’re going, so I doubt we get Lawton unless he was previously on our radar. But as far as portal entrants go, he does seem to be just about the most perfect match possible.

without even getting in to whether the program should become an active portal shopper as a regular strategy

is there really consensus that Keopple wouldnt be a reasonable backstop to the defense next year
not sure there has been sufficient starts to say he doesnt have what it takes
sure he didnt platoon this year with Shane who was a returning Richter award finalist and senior, that doesnt mean he cant step up next year

Cornell95
without even getting in to whether the program should become an active portal shopper as a regular strategy

is there really consensus that Keopple wouldnt be a reasonable backstop to the defense next year
not sure there has been sufficient starts to say he doesnt have what it takes
sure he didnt platoon this year with Shane who was a returning Richter award finalist and senior, that doesnt mean he cant step up next year

Nobody knows the answer to this, other than maybe those watching practice every day. Keopple had good junior numbers, better than Shane’s in fact. But we can only infer from his tiny NCAA sample size and the fact the coaches refused to bench Shane even when he was struggling.

ECAC schools outside of Cornell/Harvard/Quinnipiac are really getting crushed by the transfer portal/pro signings. It’s starting to feel similar to the mid-major—>power 4 trajectory in basketball/football. Have a good year at Brown or Clarkson or RPI and then bolt for Hockey East.

With Roest coming in we have three goalies and I would be surprised (not shocked) if we brought another in. You have to treat guys who have put in the work here well or word will get around.

My instinct is that we won't pull from the portal just because they are available, but guys who fit the profile and really want to come here we will now be allowed to consider because they are in the portal. It's push not pull.

Trotsky
With Roest coming in we have three goalies and I would be surprised (not shocked) if we brought another in. You have to treat guys who have put in the work here well or word will get around.

My instinct is that we won't pull from the portal just because they are available, but guys who fit the profile and really want to come here we will now be allowed to consider because they are in the portal. It's push not pull.

I agree that it is unlikely for the reasons you stated and mentioned this in my above post too. But we all know what BU and Quinnipiac would do, they’d bring in the fourth goalie. I want to be more like BU and Quinnipiac if it means we will win more. Not full-on BU/Quinnipiac bullshit, but more in that direction. We’ve done all we can under our current limitations, we need unshackle ourselves from these restrictions if at all possible and do what we can to get over the hump. I am tired of losing in the regional final, I am tired of feeling haunted by the same stupid game every offseason, and I know the coaches and players feel this ten-fold. We need to try to win.

the new roster limits may come into play here

BearLover

Trotsky
With Roest coming in we have three goalies and I would be surprised (not shocked) if we brought another in. You have to treat guys who have put in the work here well or word will get around.

My instinct is that we won't pull from the portal just because they are available, but guys who fit the profile and really want to come here we will now be allowed to consider because they are in the portal. It's push not pull.

I agree that it is unlikely for the reasons you stated and mentioned this in my above post too. But we all know what BU and Quinnipiac would do, they’d bring in the fourth goalie. I want to be more like BU and Quinnipiac if it means we will win more. Not full-on BU/Quinnipiac bullshit, but more in that direction. We’ve done all we can under our current limitations, we need unshackle ourselves from these restrictions if at all possible and do what we can to get over the hump. I am tired of losing in the regional final, I am tired of feeling haunted by the same stupid game every offseason, and I know the coaches and players feel this ten-fold. We need to try to win.

I am tired of your never-ending bullsbit.

Al DeFlorio

BearLover

Trotsky
With Roest coming in we have three goalies and I would be surprised (not shocked) if we brought another in. You have to treat guys who have put in the work here well or word will get around.

My instinct is that we won't pull from the portal just because they are available, but guys who fit the profile and really want to come here we will now be allowed to consider because they are in the portal. It's push not pull.

I agree that it is unlikely for the reasons you stated and mentioned this in my above post too. But we all know what BU and Quinnipiac would do, they’d bring in the fourth goalie. I want to be more like BU and Quinnipiac if it means we will win more. Not full-on BU/Quinnipiac bullshit, but more in that direction. We’ve done all we can under our current limitations, we need unshackle ourselves from these restrictions if at all possible and do what we can to get over the hump. I am tired of losing in the regional final, I am tired of feeling haunted by the same stupid game every offseason, and I know the coaches and players feel this ten-fold. We need to try to win.

I am tired of your never-ending bullsbit.

If you’re so tired, why don’t you take a nap? As usual, you have nothing substantive to add, so you just name-call. Don’t you have something to complain about on the Cornell Football thread?

Trotsky
You have to treat guys who have put in the work here well or word will get around.

i don't buy this tbh. in wrestling the most likely places to get recruited over are Penn State and Iowa, who are poaching transfers not only from small school guys that make a run to AA after getting overlooked in high school (which you'd expect) but from other top-tier B1G schools. i don't think we suffer much, if at all, for bringing in a starter-quality player who bumps a guy back to the bench. sports is basically designed to be a meritocracy, red in tooth and claw.

ugarte

Trotsky
You have to treat guys who have put in the work here well or word will get around.

i don't buy this tbh. in wrestling the most likely places to get recruited over are Penn State and Iowa, who are poaching transfers not only from small school guys that make a run to AA after getting overlooked in high school (which you'd expect) but from other top-tier B1G schools. i don't think we suffer much, if at all, for bringing in a starter-quality player who bumps a guy back to the bench. sports is basically designed to be a meritocracy, red in tooth and claw.

Right. This is not how other teams operate. Al DeFlorio may not like it, but sports teams try to win. There is a cost-benefit to bringing in transfers and in some cases the benefits outweigh the costs.

BearLover

Al DeFlorio

BearLover

Trotsky
With Roest coming in we have three goalies and I would be surprised (not shocked) if we brought another in. You have to treat guys who have put in the work here well or word will get around.

My instinct is that we won't pull from the portal just because they are available, but guys who fit the profile and really want to come here we will now be allowed to consider because they are in the portal. It's push not pull.

I agree that it is unlikely for the reasons you stated and mentioned this in my above post too. But we all know what BU and Quinnipiac would do, they’d bring in the fourth goalie. I want to be more like BU and Quinnipiac if it means we will win more. Not full-on BU/Quinnipiac bullshit, but more in that direction. We’ve done all we can under our current limitations, we need unshackle ourselves from these restrictions if at all possible and do what we can to get over the hump. I am tired of losing in the regional final, I am tired of feeling haunted by the same stupid game every offseason, and I know the coaches and players feel this ten-fold. We need to try to win.

I am tired of your never-ending bullsbit.

If you’re so tired, why don’t you take a nap? As usual, you have nothing substantive to add, so you just name-call. Don’t you have something to complain about on the Cornell Football thread?

BearLover, I think the problem is that we know how you feel about Regional losses. You've said it multiple times. After a while it gets annoying to hear it again. You know that I feel differently than you, but I'm not going to keep saying it. And then you end your post with "We need to try to win."

Come on, you probably don't mean it, but this team, as well as the others, really, really tried to win.

Maybe if you tried making your point about getting portal players without again telling us how disappointed you are, maybe then posters would read your posts for your reasons and not get upset about hearing again how you feel.

Maybe yes, maybe no. But trying not to be negative 90% of the time (Sure I don't exactly know how often, but it's a lot) that might unbury (Is that even a word?) your good points.

Jim Hyla

BearLover

Al DeFlorio

BearLover

Trotsky
With Roest coming in we have three goalies and I would be surprised (not shocked) if we brought another in. You have to treat guys who have put in the work here well or word will get around.

My instinct is that we won't pull from the portal just because they are available, but guys who fit the profile and really want to come here we will now be allowed to consider because they are in the portal. It's push not pull.

I agree that it is unlikely for the reasons you stated and mentioned this in my above post too. But we all know what BU and Quinnipiac would do, they’d bring in the fourth goalie. I want to be more like BU and Quinnipiac if it means we will win more. Not full-on BU/Quinnipiac bullshit, but more in that direction. We’ve done all we can under our current limitations, we need unshackle ourselves from these restrictions if at all possible and do what we can to get over the hump. I am tired of losing in the regional final, I am tired of feeling haunted by the same stupid game every offseason, and I know the coaches and players feel this ten-fold. We need to try to win.

I am tired of your never-ending bullsbit.

If you’re so tired, why don’t you take a nap? As usual, you have nothing substantive to add, so you just name-call. Don’t you have something to complain about on the Cornell Football thread?

BearLover, I think the problem is that we know how you feel about Regional losses. You've said it multiple times. After a while it gets annoying to hear it again. You know that I feel differently than you, but I'm not going to keep saying it. And then you end your post with "We need to try to win."

Come on, you probably don't mean it, but this team, as well as the others, really, really tried to win.

Maybe if you tried making your point about getting portal players without again telling us how disappointed you are, maybe then posters would read your posts for your reasons and not get upset about hearing again how you feel.

Maybe yes, maybe no. But trying not to be negative 90% of the time (Sure I don't exactly know how often, but it's a lot) that might unbury (Is that even a word?) your good points.

Well first of all, obviously you are correct that people would pay more attention to my good points if I weren’t so negative. In this case, I bring up our excruciating regional finals losses because I believe they demonstrate that our ability to win is capped under the current regime. Schafer was one of the best college hockey coaches of all time, but I don’t see how we are going to make the frozen four adhering to the same old limitations. Some of them are out of our control: no grad students, no scholarships. But there’s no Ivy League rule against carrying four goalies on the roster. There’s no rule against bringing in more transfers or NIL. I don’t think some of these things (especially NIL) are likely to happen, but I use them as examples of things we can do to (partially) even the playing field against the BUs and Quinnipiac’s.

When I said “we need to try to win,” it was clearly NOT a judgment of the current team. Instead it means: we need to go farther, within reason, to get over the hump. We shouldn’t be content with no frozen fours since 2003. Other teams are doing things within the rules that Cornell is allowed to do too. Cornell isn’t getting to the promised land with business as usual.

upprdeck
the new roster limits may come into play here

I thought those only apply if you opt into the settlement from the lawsuit, which the ivy league did not.

ugarte

Trotsky
You have to treat guys who have put in the work here well or word will get around.

i don't buy this tbh. in wrestling the most likely places to get recruited over are Penn State and Iowa, who are poaching transfers not only from small school guys that make a run to AA after getting overlooked in high school (which you'd expect) but from other top-tier B1G schools. i don't think we suffer much, if at all, for bringing in a starter-quality player who bumps a guy back to the bench. sports is basically designed to be a meritocracy, red in tooth and claw.

You could absolutely be right; I simply don't know.

BearLover
In this case, I bring up our excruciating regional finals losses because I believe they demonstrate that our ability to win is capped under the current regime. Schafer was one of the best college hockey coaches of all time, but I don’t see how we are going to make the frozen four adhering to the same old limitations. Some of them are out of our control: no grad students, no scholarships. But there’s no Ivy League rule against carrying four goalies on the roster. There’s no rule against bringing in more transfers or NIL. I don’t think some of these things (especially NIL) are likely to happen, but I use them as examples of things we can do to (partially) even the playing field against the BUs and Quinnipiac’s.

When I said “we need to try to win,” it was clearly NOT a judgment of the current team. Instead it means: we need to go farther, within reason, to get over the hump. We shouldn’t be content with no frozen fours since 2003. Other teams are doing things within the rules that Cornell is allowed to do too. Cornell isn’t getting to the promised land with business as usual.

I don't know if this is by intention, but your comment here suggests you think Schafer wasn't trying to do these things, and that was somehow holding the program back. I think reasonable people can debate whether or not adding more transfers would meaningfully help Cornell - certainly there were a few impact players who went to WMU and Quinnipiac last year that were at least nominally eligible for Cornell, but I don't know that any of them would have been worth he time to pursue, or if Schafer connected with them and they just went elsewhere. Regardless, unless Schafer's on the record saying otherwise I doubt it was unwillingness to entertain transfers that was keeping Cornell off the transfer board. Rather, I suspect the main issue with the transfer portal, and why we haven't seen many guys come through it, is the same issue with recruiting at large - Cornell has limitations that don't apply to the likes of Quinnipiac and WMU. So the pool of available players isn't as big as it might seem with all the movement, and when you put filters in place around quality of play, fit with the needs of the program, interest in Cornell, and ability to get through admissions it's entirely possible a transfer every few years is about as good as it gets for us.

Now, should Jones emphasize the portal more? I have no idea. The thing about coaching is time is the enemy. You must make tradeoffs in terms of how you spend your recruiting efforts. So do you get really good at the transfer portal OR do you open up more recruiting connections to the CHL? Ideally you'd work on both, but if you have to sacrifice time building CHL connections to get a bit better at fishing in the transfer portal, is that worth the trade?

Tom Lento

BearLover
In this case, I bring up our excruciating regional finals losses because I believe they demonstrate that our ability to win is capped under the current regime. Schafer was one of the best college hockey coaches of all time, but I don’t see how we are going to make the frozen four adhering to the same old limitations. Some of them are out of our control: no grad students, no scholarships. But there’s no Ivy League rule against carrying four goalies on the roster. There’s no rule against bringing in more transfers or NIL. I don’t think some of these things (especially NIL) are likely to happen, but I use them as examples of things we can do to (partially) even the playing field against the BUs and Quinnipiac’s.

When I said “we need to try to win,” it was clearly NOT a judgment of the current team. Instead it means: we need to go farther, within reason, to get over the hump. We shouldn’t be content with no frozen fours since 2003. Other teams are doing things within the rules that Cornell is allowed to do too. Cornell isn’t getting to the promised land with business as usual.

I don't know if this is by intention, but your comment here suggests you think Schafer wasn't trying to do these things, and that was somehow holding the program back. I think reasonable people can debate whether or not adding more transfers would meaningfully help Cornell - certainly there were a few impact players who went to WMU and Quinnipiac last year that were at least nominally eligible for Cornell, but I don't know that any of them would have been worth he time to pursue, or if Schafer connected with them and they just went elsewhere. Regardless, unless Schafer's on the record saying otherwise I doubt it was unwillingness to entertain transfers that was keeping Cornell off the transfer board. Rather, I suspect the main issue with the transfer portal, and why we haven't seen many guys come through it, is the same issue with recruiting at large - Cornell has limitations that don't apply to the likes of Quinnipiac and WMU. So the pool of available players isn't as big as it might seem with all the movement, and when you put filters in place around quality of play, fit with the needs of the program, interest in Cornell, and ability to get through admissions it's entirely possible a transfer every few years is about as good as it gets for us.

Now, should Jones emphasize the portal more? I have no idea. The thing about coaching is time is the enemy. You must make tradeoffs in terms of how you spend your recruiting efforts. So do you get really good at the transfer portal OR do you open up more recruiting connections to the CHL? Ideally you'd work on both, but if you have to sacrifice time building CHL connections to get a bit better at fishing in the transfer portal, is that worth the trade?

I don’t know how much of not using the portal was Schafer and how much of it was structural limitations, as you say. But I think a reasonable assumption is that part of it was a coach who has been successful for 30 years wanting to continue doing things the traditional way. Also I don’t think it’s a huge time suck to reach out to players in the portal. Often players transfer to teams that previously recruited them, so there may already be a relationship there. Portal transfers take place over a week or two usually so it doesn’t take much time away from recruiting etc.

BearLover

Tom Lento

BearLover
In this case, I bring up our excruciating regional finals losses because I believe they demonstrate that our ability to win is capped under the current regime. Schafer was one of the best college hockey coaches of all time, but I don’t see how we are going to make the frozen four adhering to the same old limitations. Some of them are out of our control: no grad students, no scholarships. But there’s no Ivy League rule against carrying four goalies on the roster. There’s no rule against bringing in more transfers or NIL. I don’t think some of these things (especially NIL) are likely to happen, but I use them as examples of things we can do to (partially) even the playing field against the BUs and Quinnipiac’s.

When I said “we need to try to win,” it was clearly NOT a judgment of the current team. Instead it means: we need to go farther, within reason, to get over the hump. We shouldn’t be content with no frozen fours since 2003. Other teams are doing things within the rules that Cornell is allowed to do too. Cornell isn’t getting to the promised land with business as usual.

I don't know if this is by intention, but your comment here suggests you think Schafer wasn't trying to do these things, and that was somehow holding the program back. I think reasonable people can debate whether or not adding more transfers would meaningfully help Cornell - certainly there were a few impact players who went to WMU and Quinnipiac last year that were at least nominally eligible for Cornell, but I don't know that any of them would have been worth he time to pursue, or if Schafer connected with them and they just went elsewhere. Regardless, unless Schafer's on the record saying otherwise I doubt it was unwillingness to entertain transfers that was keeping Cornell off the transfer board. Rather, I suspect the main issue with the transfer portal, and why we haven't seen many guys come through it, is the same issue with recruiting at large - Cornell has limitations that don't apply to the likes of Quinnipiac and WMU. So the pool of available players isn't as big as it might seem with all the movement, and when you put filters in place around quality of play, fit with the needs of the program, interest in Cornell, and ability to get through admissions it's entirely possible a transfer every few years is about as good as it gets for us.

Now, should Jones emphasize the portal more? I have no idea. The thing about coaching is time is the enemy. You must make tradeoffs in terms of how you spend your recruiting efforts. So do you get really good at the transfer portal OR do you open up more recruiting connections to the CHL? Ideally you'd work on both, but if you have to sacrifice time building CHL connections to get a bit better at fishing in the transfer portal, is that worth the trade?

I don’t know how much of not using the portal was Schafer and how much of it was structural limitations, as you say. But I think a reasonable assumption is that part of it was a coach who has been successful for 30 years wanting to continue doing things the traditional way. Also I don’t think it’s a huge time suck to reach out to players in the portal. Often players transfer to teams that previously recruited them, so there may already be a relationship there. Portal transfers take place over a week or two usually so it doesn’t take much time away from recruiting etc.

Honestly those are pretty big assumptions. Someone said most kids in the portal already have a target team picked out. If that’s true the recruiting process is more than a couple weeks of just reaching out to guys who declare intent.

Of the transfer portal guys who aren’t pre-claimed, how many do we think are impact players? How many of them will have 2-3 years to contribute? How many of them can get into Cornell or have any interest in going to Ithaca? I’d wager very few, and then you’re back to how you spend your time.

That said I do hope someone is reaching out to Mac Gadowski, even though it’s likely hopeless.

Tom Lento

BearLover

Tom Lento

BearLover
In this case, I bring up our excruciating regional finals losses because I believe they demonstrate that our ability to win is capped under the current regime. Schafer was one of the best college hockey coaches of all time, but I don’t see how we are going to make the frozen four adhering to the same old limitations. Some of them are out of our control: no grad students, no scholarships. But there’s no Ivy League rule against carrying four goalies on the roster. There’s no rule against bringing in more transfers or NIL. I don’t think some of these things (especially NIL) are likely to happen, but I use them as examples of things we can do to (partially) even the playing field against the BUs and Quinnipiac’s.

When I said “we need to try to win,” it was clearly NOT a judgment of the current team. Instead it means: we need to go farther, within reason, to get over the hump. We shouldn’t be content with no frozen fours since 2003. Other teams are doing things within the rules that Cornell is allowed to do too. Cornell isn’t getting to the promised land with business as usual.

I don't know if this is by intention, but your comment here suggests you think Schafer wasn't trying to do these things, and that was somehow holding the program back. I think reasonable people can debate whether or not adding more transfers would meaningfully help Cornell - certainly there were a few impact players who went to WMU and Quinnipiac last year that were at least nominally eligible for Cornell, but I don't know that any of them would have been worth he time to pursue, or if Schafer connected with them and they just went elsewhere. Regardless, unless Schafer's on the record saying otherwise I doubt it was unwillingness to entertain transfers that was keeping Cornell off the transfer board. Rather, I suspect the main issue with the transfer portal, and why we haven't seen many guys come through it, is the same issue with recruiting at large - Cornell has limitations that don't apply to the likes of Quinnipiac and WMU. So the pool of available players isn't as big as it might seem with all the movement, and when you put filters in place around quality of play, fit with the needs of the program, interest in Cornell, and ability to get through admissions it's entirely possible a transfer every few years is about as good as it gets for us.

Now, should Jones emphasize the portal more? I have no idea. The thing about coaching is time is the enemy. You must make tradeoffs in terms of how you spend your recruiting efforts. So do you get really good at the transfer portal OR do you open up more recruiting connections to the CHL? Ideally you'd work on both, but if you have to sacrifice time building CHL connections to get a bit better at fishing in the transfer portal, is that worth the trade?

I don’t know how much of not using the portal was Schafer and how much of it was structural limitations, as you say. But I think a reasonable assumption is that part of it was a coach who has been successful for 30 years wanting to continue doing things the traditional way. Also I don’t think it’s a huge time suck to reach out to players in the portal. Often players transfer to teams that previously recruited them, so there may already be a relationship there. Portal transfers take place over a week or two usually so it doesn’t take much time away from recruiting etc.

Honestly those are pretty big assumptions. Someone said most kids in the portal already have a target team picked out. If that’s true the recruiting process is more than a couple weeks of just reaching out to guys who declare intent.

Of the transfer portal guys who aren’t pre-claimed, how many do we think are impact players? How many of them will have 2-3 years to contribute? How many of them can get into Cornell or have any interest in going to Ithaca? I’d wager very few, and then you’re back to how you spend your time.

That said I do hope someone is reaching out to Mac Gadowski, even though it’s likely hopeless.

I don’t know how many players fit that criteria but the cost/benefit of trying seems extremely positive. Dartmouth had at least two transfers on their team this year. Our highest point producer since Matt Moulson was a transfer. So it’s clearly possible, and the upside is very high. Clarkson took a ton of transfers under Casey so we’ll find out pretty soon (within a year for two) how fruitful it is.

[x.com]


"Shane Soderwall, the 2025 Sid Watson Award winner (top D-II/III hockey player), has multiple D-I offers in the transfer portal.

1.47/.945 this season in 28 games. Over two seasons, 1.52/.947 in 49 games.

Hearing Clarkson is the favorite."

hmmm how does NAHL compare to DIII?

jts15
[x.com]


"Shane Soderwall, the 2025 Sid Watson Award winner (top D-II/III hockey player), has multiple D-I offers in the transfer portal.

1.47/.945 this season in 28 games. Over two seasons, 1.52/.947 in 49 games.

Hearing Clarkson is the favorite."

Those are insane numbers.

Tom Lento

BearLover

Tom Lento

BearLover
In this case, I bring up our excruciating regional finals losses because I believe they demonstrate that our ability to win is capped under the current regime. Schafer was one of the best college hockey coaches of all time, but I don’t see how we are going to make the frozen four adhering to the same old limitations. Some of them are out of our control: no grad students, no scholarships. But there’s no Ivy League rule against carrying four goalies on the roster. There’s no rule against bringing in more transfers or NIL. I don’t think some of these things (especially NIL) are likely to happen, but I use them as examples of things we can do to (partially) even the playing field against the BUs and Quinnipiac’s.

When I said “we need to try to win,” it was clearly NOT a judgment of the current team. Instead it means: we need to go farther, within reason, to get over the hump. We shouldn’t be content with no frozen fours since 2003. Other teams are doing things within the rules that Cornell is allowed to do too. Cornell isn’t getting to the promised land with business as usual.

I don't know if this is by intention, but your comment here suggests you think Schafer wasn't trying to do these things, and that was somehow holding the program back. I think reasonable people can debate whether or not adding more transfers would meaningfully help Cornell - certainly there were a few impact players who went to WMU and Quinnipiac last year that were at least nominally eligible for Cornell, but I don't know that any of them would have been worth he time to pursue, or if Schafer connected with them and they just went elsewhere. Regardless, unless Schafer's on the record saying otherwise I doubt it was unwillingness to entertain transfers that was keeping Cornell off the transfer board. Rather, I suspect the main issue with the transfer portal, and why we haven't seen many guys come through it, is the same issue with recruiting at large - Cornell has limitations that don't apply to the likes of Quinnipiac and WMU. So the pool of available players isn't as big as it might seem with all the movement, and when you put filters in place around quality of play, fit with the needs of the program, interest in Cornell, and ability to get through admissions it's entirely possible a transfer every few years is about as good as it gets for us.

Now, should Jones emphasize the portal more? I have no idea. The thing about coaching is time is the enemy. You must make tradeoffs in terms of how you spend your recruiting efforts. So do you get really good at the transfer portal OR do you open up more recruiting connections to the CHL? Ideally you'd work on both, but if you have to sacrifice time building CHL connections to get a bit better at fishing in the transfer portal, is that worth the trade?

I don’t know how much of not using the portal was Schafer and how much of it was structural limitations, as you say. But I think a reasonable assumption is that part of it was a coach who has been successful for 30 years wanting to continue doing things the traditional way. Also I don’t think it’s a huge time suck to reach out to players in the portal. Often players transfer to teams that previously recruited them, so there may already be a relationship there. Portal transfers take place over a week or two usually so it doesn’t take much time away from recruiting etc.

Honestly those are pretty big assumptions. Someone said most kids in the portal already have a target team picked out. If that’s true the recruiting process is more than a couple weeks of just reaching out to guys who declare intent.

Of the transfer portal guys who aren’t pre-claimed, how many do we think are impact players? How many of them will have 2-3 years to contribute? How many of them can get into Cornell or have any interest in going to Ithaca? I’d wager very few, and then you’re back to how you spend your time.

That said I do hope someone is reaching out to Mac Gadowski, even though it’s likely hopeless.

Yesterday, Casey added the first transfer of his time as head coach: Michael Fisher, formerly of Northeastern.

Hopefully there is more where that came from as Casey takes a more open approach to bringing in transfers. We are going to need a forward transfer now, with Bancroft gone.

Mike Fisher played last season with the Penticton Vees - He is listed at 6 foot and 203 lbs. on D had 2 goals and 14 assists in 35 games. (plus 41 minutes penalties.

profudge
Mike Fisher played last season with the Penticton Vees - He is listed at 6 foot and 203 lbs. on D had 2 goals and 14 assists in 35 games. (plus 41 minutes penalties.

With his freshman year at NU he was named to HE All-Academic Team (Required to get 3.0). However it must be easy since some schools have over 20 hockey players listed.

To his credit, he also made the AHCA/Krampade All-American Scholar Honors which requires a 3.75.

Wonder what school accepted him.

Jim Hyla

profudge
Mike Fisher played last season with the Penticton Vees - He is listed at 6 foot and 203 lbs. on D had 2 goals and 14 assists in 35 games. (plus 41 minutes penalties.

With his freshman year at NU he was named to HE All-Academic Team (Required to get 3.0). However it must be easy since some schools have over 20 hockey players listed.

To his credit, he also made the AHCA/Krampade All-American Scholar Honors which requires a 3.75.

Wonder what school accepted him.

I just posted on the recruits thread that he had originally committed to Princeton, so he seems academically inclined.

RPI is expected to announce its new coach today.

ursusminor
RPI is expected to announce its new coach today.

Eric Lang the likely choice?

scoop85

ursusminor
RPI is expected to announce its new coach today.

Eric Lang the likely choice?

Yes. He has given notice to AIC, and AIC has posted a vacancy. Of course, he might have done that anyway since AIC is dropping out of D-I.

Jason Tapp has also been mentioned often.

ursusminor

scoop85

ursusminor
RPI is expected to announce its new coach today.

Eric Lang the likely choice?

Yes. He has given notice to AIC, and AIC has posted a vacancy. Of course, he might have done that anyway since AIC is dropping out of D-I.

Jason Tapp has also been mentioned often.

Nothing was announced on Monday.

It's Eric Lang.

ursusminor
It's Eric Lang.

This is my shocked face:

Eric Lang press conference.

[www.youtube.com]

Big Stud from NDak transfered to BU

BearLover
Brown is getting absolutely ravaged by the portal and early departures. I think 3/4 of their top scorers and their starting goalie who put up a .917 sv% on a weak team are all leaving early via pro contract or portal. For a team that made strides this year but relied heavily on its goalie and top line, this is a disaster for them.

For our purposes though, the goalie, Lawton Zacher, could be a very realistic portal target. He has only played two years of college so he would be eligible to transfer here for his final two years. He is from Buffalo, NY. He’s coming from another Ivy. And we need a goalie. Seems like we should have a real shot at him, should the coaching staff choose to pursue it. This would require carrying four goalies on the roster next year, something we never do but other programs do. Seems like it’s mostly a question of how badly do we want to win next season versus upsetting team chemistry by taking in a goalie who would presumably play ahead of the three goalies who would already be here.

Zacher is headed to Northeastern. Ugh, can we please be somewhat competitive in the portal?

NCHC might sign a deal with ESPN?

stereax
NCHC might sign a deal with ESPN?

Yes, please

[www.cleansheethockey.com]

Notes:
Cornell needs to step up recruiting
Quinnipiac recruiting very well
Harvard seems to be recruiting worse, continuing a trend from the last couple years
Both Clarkson players are from the CHL

BearLover
[www.cleansheethockey.com]

Notes:
Cornell needs to step up recruiting
Quinnipiac recruiting very well
Harvard seems to be recruiting worse, continuing a trend from the last couple years
Both Clarkson players are from the CHL

Im surprised Saint Lawrence managed to trick a guy that’s ranked into attending. I’ll set the over under at 50.5 days for the decommitment.

Simon Haoxi Wang is wild. 6-6 defenseman from Beijing, committed to BU.

BearLover
[www.cleansheethockey.com]

Notes:
Cornell needs to step up recruiting
Quinnipiac recruiting very well
Harvard seems to be recruiting worse, continuing a trend from the last couple years
Both Clarkson players are from the CHL

Do you really think that we're not doing as much as the coaches and athletics think we can do already given who we are as a school, our location, our resources financially, etc? And even if Casey has some new and improved recruiting plan, you couldn't expect it to slam into gear right at the change-over.

Even if getting the CHL/OHL/ etc kids as recruits was the holy grail, it's a LOT easier for teams like Q to put that plan in place right away, because they've got 4 or 5 spots a year they expect to fill through the portal. It's an easy shift for them. OTOH, we have a full pipeline. Do you want us to go grab three guys from the OHL and have to yank commitments made years ago to three other kids so we have roster space?

You're a keyboard karen yelling at how unfair the world is. Unless you actually have some reasonable, concrete, novel, and implementable recommendation that you are willing to directly phone in to Nicki and/or Casey to save the day, please STFU with this recruiting whining already. (Try therapy instead. Less fun, more productive than being here).

abmarks
keyboard karen

If this is original it should get the Nobel Prize for Literature. Bravo.

Trotsky

abmarks
keyboard karen

If this is original it should get the Nobel Prize for Literature. Bravo.

TY Sir. I don't think I'd heard it anywhere before, but i'm not surprised that someone beat me to the punch.

Urban dictionary:

Keyboard Karen

A person who stalks the comment section on social media platforms and harassess anyone with an opinion that could be perceived as different from their own. They are often entitled and speak down to others with a prominent self righteous attitude. When cornered in an argument, they may resort to accusations of bigotry or assume the role of victim.

ex: I commented on a joke last night and a Keyboard Karen spent 2 hours trying to make me feel like a terrible person!

by Just Ignore Them December 18, 2021

abmarks

BearLover
[www.cleansheethockey.com]

Notes:
Cornell needs to step up recruiting
Quinnipiac recruiting very well
Harvard seems to be recruiting worse, continuing a trend from the last couple years
Both Clarkson players are from the CHL

Do you really think that we're not doing as much as the coaches and athletics think we can do already given who we are as a school, our location, our resources financially, etc? And even if Casey has some new and improved recruiting plan, you couldn't expect it to slam into gear right at the change-over.

Even if getting the CHL/OHL/ etc kids as recruits was the holy grail, it's a LOT easier for teams like Q to put that plan in place right away, because they've got 4 or 5 spots a year they expect to fill through the portal. It's an easy shift for them. OTOH, we have a full pipeline. Do you want us to go grab three guys from the OHL and have to yank commitments made years ago to three other kids so we have roster space?

You're a keyboard karen yelling at how unfair the world is. Unless you actually have some reasonable, concrete, novel, and implementable recommendation that you are willing to directly phone in to Nicki and/or Casey to save the day, please STFU with this recruiting whining already. (Try therapy instead. Less fun, more productive than being here).

You are completely insane, dude. Let’s go look at what I said: “Cornell needs to pick up recruiting.” I wrote this on an Internet forum of hockey fans. And you got so triggered by this total harmless message that you wrote three paragraphs screaming at me.

Also, lmao, our recruiting class in 2023 had 5 draft players. You think one kid ranked by central scouting is the best we can do? We have a new coach and the population of recruitable kids just doubled, there is massive room for growth. And where did I say I expected our recruiting to pick up overnight? I’m looking towards the future, obviously. You also say a bunch of other nonsense that I’ve already spoken about countless times in other posts. You spent your entire post knocking down an imaginary strawman (stupid BearLove doesn’t realize our pipeline is full, yet he expect our recruiting to magically improve overnight despite the fact we are already doing as well as we possibly can). That’s completely untrue, all of it.

Let’s just be clear what happened here: I, a fan of a college hockey team, wrote on an Internet forum: “Cornell needs to pick up recruiting.” This is not a rude nor uninformed opinion. And you went berserk. You couldn’t handle it! You are nuts!

BearLover

abmarks

BearLover
[www.cleansheethockey.com]

Notes:
Cornell needs to step up recruiting
Quinnipiac recruiting very well
Harvard seems to be recruiting worse, continuing a trend from the last couple years
Both Clarkson players are from the CHL

Do you really think that we're not doing as much as the coaches and athletics think we can do already given who we are as a school, our location, our resources financially, etc? And even if Casey has some new and improved recruiting plan, you couldn't expect it to slam into gear right at the change-over.

Even if getting the CHL/OHL/ etc kids as recruits was the holy grail, it's a LOT easier for teams like Q to put that plan in place right away, because they've got 4 or 5 spots a year they expect to fill through the portal. It's an easy shift for them. OTOH, we have a full pipeline. Do you want us to go grab three guys from the OHL and have to yank commitments made years ago to three other kids so we have roster space?

You're a keyboard karen yelling at how unfair the world is. Unless you actually have some reasonable, concrete, novel, and implementable recommendation that you are willing to directly phone in to Nicki and/or Casey to save the day, please STFU with this recruiting whining already. (Try therapy instead. Less fun, more productive than being here).

You are completely insane, dude. Let’s go look at what I said: “Cornell needs to pick up recruiting.” I wrote this on an Internet forum of hockey fans. And you got so triggered by this total harmless message that you wrote three paragraphs screaming at me.

Also, lmao, our recruiting class in 2023 had 5 draft players. You think one kid ranked by central scouting is the best we can do? We have a new coach and the population of recruitable kids just doubled, there is massive room for growth. And where did I say I expected our recruiting to pick up overnight? I’m looking towards the future, obviously. You also say a bunch of other nonsense that I’ve already spoken about countless times in other posts. You spent your entire post knocking down an imaginary strawman (stupid BearLove doesn’t realize our pipeline is full, yet he expect our recruiting to magically improve overnight despite the fact we are already doing as well as we possibly can). That’s completely untrue, all of it.

Let’s just be clear what happened here: I, a fan of a college hockey team, wrote on an Internet forum: “Cornell needs to pick up recruiting.” This is not a rude nor uninformed opinion. And you went berserk. You couldn’t handle it! You are nuts!

A classic example of a keyboard Karen response.

"Officer, I'd like to report a murder."

[x.com]

Maybe he wants to play for Casey again. Or maybe he wants a big payday from the big 10, if that’s a real thing that exists (unknown).

Edit: oh wait, he’s a rising senior, he can’t transfer to Cornell.

The ECAC is really getting ravaged by the portal. It’s going to be Quinnipiac, huge gap, and then everyone else next season. If we still had Robertson and Bancroft we’d easily be the second best team, but without them we’ll be rebuilding like the rest of the league.

BearLover
[x.com]

Maybe he wants to play for Casey again. Or maybe he wants a big payday from the big 10, if that’s a real thing that exists (unknown).

Edit: oh wait, he’s a rising senior, he can’t transfer to Cornell.

The ECAC is really getting ravaged by the portal. It’s going to be Quinnipiac, huge gap, and then everyone else next season. If we still had Robertson and Bancroft we’d easily be the second best team, but without them we’ll be rebuilding like the rest of the league.

Clarkson has multiple point a game guys and a goalie with a .920 save percentage coming in from the CHL. They could be really good if CHL guys don’t completely flop in college. I know they would all be freshmen but that’s not as concerning when it’s a bunch of 21 year olds.

Never change, Colgate.

(I had no idea about CC. Fuck them.)

A more detailed (and prettier) treatment.

A far, far more detailed (less pretty) analysis of Cornell. (tldr: we suck, but not compared to the other Ivies.)

The scatter plot and trending charts are most interesting. I would have expected us (and the Ivies in general) to have become less scumbag-ridden in the last 40 years but nope -- flatlining all the way. Tutoring and privilege in high school still replicates class. Whodathunk?

Fun fact: the top 4 universities for "Median student income at age 34" are pharmacy schools. MIT is 5th.

Trotsky
Never change, Colgate.

(I had no idea about CC. Fuck them.)

A more detailed (and prettier) treatment.

A far, far more detailed (less pretty) analysis of Cornell. (tldr: we suck, but not compared to the other Ivies.)

The scatter plot and trending charts are most interesting. I would have expected us (and the Ivies in general) to have become less scumbag-ridden in the last 40 years but nope -- flatlining all the way. Tutoring and privilege in high school still replicates class. Whodathunk?

Fun fact: the top 4 universities for "Median student income at age 34" are pharmacy schools. MIT is 5th.

You really hate rich people huh? Just because someone is wealthy doesn’t mean they’re the scum of the earth

Increases the odds.

CU2007

Trotsky
Never change, Colgate.

(I had no idea about CC. Fuck them.)

A more detailed (and prettier) treatment.

A far, far more detailed (less pretty) analysis of Cornell. (tldr: we suck, but not compared to the other Ivies.)

The scatter plot and trending charts are most interesting. I would have expected us (and the Ivies in general) to have become less scumbag-ridden in the last 40 years but nope -- flatlining all the way. Tutoring and privilege in high school still replicates class. Whodathunk?

Fun fact: the top 4 universities for "Median student income at age 34" are pharmacy schools. MIT is 5th.

You really hate rich people huh? Just because someone is wealthy doesn’t mean they’re the scum of the earth

Rich people are the same as everybody else. Which is why the top 1% should make up 1% of the class, and the top 10% should make up 10%.

Otherwise it really is a scam to keep the failsons in the dough, like all the proles think. Cuz I know these folks and wealth and intelligence sure as shit aint correlated.

I want Cornell to be the exception it claims to be. That would be truly worthy of pride.

Trotsky

CU2007

Trotsky
Never change, Colgate.

(I had no idea about CC. Fuck them.)

A more detailed (and prettier) treatment.

A far, far more detailed (less pretty) analysis of Cornell. (tldr: we suck, but not compared to the other Ivies.)

The scatter plot and trending charts are most interesting. I would have expected us (and the Ivies in general) to have become less scumbag-ridden in the last 40 years but nope -- flatlining all the way. Tutoring and privilege in high school still replicates class. Whodathunk?

Fun fact: the top 4 universities for "Median student income at age 34" are pharmacy schools. MIT is 5th.

You really hate rich people huh? Just because someone is wealthy doesn’t mean they’re the scum of the earth

Rich people are the same as everybody else. Which is why the top 1% should make up 1% of the class, and the top 10% should make up 10%.

Otherwise it really is a scam to keep the failsons in the dough, like all the proles think. Cuz I know these folks and wealth and intelligence sure as shit aint correlated.

I want Cornell to be the exception it claims to be. That would be truly worthy of pride.

LOL, I was thinking right before I got to Trotskys reply that it's not the rich he hates, but the undeserving spawn.

Trotsky, go.read the upshot report you quoted and pull.up Cornell and hit the compare to Ivies option. You'll find we are top or second ranked iirc on all the significant upward mobility stats vs. the rest of Ivy (like percent of students moving from bottom 20% of income scale when entering, to top 20% of scale when measuring down the road at some point.)

vs. the rest of Ivy

This is the operative word. Right now we are the smartest kid in the Upper Class Twit of the Year contest. I'd love it if within my grandchild's lifetime we were measuring ourselves against someone other than Special Olympians.

If you're in the same conversation as Dartmouth re: academic integrity, you're doing something very very wrong.

Hey, fun stat:

Castagna's '24 season leads all U19 college skaters (since '23) in even-strength GF%. Better than the likes of Cooley, Fantilli, Leonard, Perreault, Smith, Celebrini.

Trotsky

vs. the rest of Ivy

This is the operative word. Right now we are the smartest kid in the Upper Class Twit of the Year contest. I'd love it if within my grandchild's lifetime we were measuring ourselves against someone other than Special Olympians.

If you're in the same conversation as Dartmouth re: academic integrity, you're doing something very very wrong.

There are other comparisons available, I just didn't try them. You should see how we stack up against the world and not just ivy

abmarks

Trotsky

vs. the rest of Ivy

This is the operative word. Right now we are the smartest kid in the Upper Class Twit of the Year contest. I'd love it if within my grandchild's lifetime we were measuring ourselves against someone other than Special Olympians.

If you're in the same conversation as Dartmouth re: academic integrity, you're doing something very very wrong.

There are other comparisons available, I just didn't try them. You should see how we stack up against the world and not just ivy

The detailed link above does just that. Hence the summary: we suck, just not as bad as the other Ivies.

Some words from of all places the Cambridge MBA Degree Mill. Let's continue on the Double Secret Branch if you wish.

Yet another top CHL player commits to Clarkson for next season. This time it is Matthew Mayich, 6th round draft pick, defenseman who had 7-35-42 in 66 games in the OHL. He is already 20 so I assume he is looking to only be at Clarkson for a couple of years before bolting for the pros. Clarkson and Quinnipiac continue benefiting from CHL age-out players way more than the rest of the ECAC. It seems similar to how Quinnipiac loaded up on grad transfers over the last few years, which is the only reason they won a national title.

Would be nice to see Cornell get a single one of these CHL age-out players to plug some holes the next year or two, but so far it’s been Clarkson 6, Quinnipiac 5, Cornell 0.

BearLover
Would be nice to see Cornell get a single one of these CHL age-out players to plug some holes the next year or two, but so far it’s been Clarkson 6, Quinnipiac 5, Cornell 0.

US News rankings, for what they’re worth:

Cornell 11 in National Universities (tie)
Clarkson 152 in National Universities (tie)
Quinnipiac 179 in National Universities (tie)

Cornell 10 in Engineering Programs (doctorate)
Clarkson 113 in Engineering Programs (doctorate)
.

College hockey apparently shifting from RPI to NPI, looks to be very beneficial to us but waiting to see what tweaks they make

chimpfood
College hockey apparently shifting from RPI to NPI, looks to be very beneficial to us but waiting to see what tweaks they make

What is the difference from RPI and why does it benefit us?

BearLover

chimpfood
College hockey apparently shifting from RPI to NPI, looks to be very beneficial to us but waiting to see what tweaks they make

What is the difference from RPI and why does it benefit us?

I haven’t put in the time to understand it fully yet (and I won’t bother until they announce exactly what tweaks and everything they are making to it) but this article explains the difference between NPI and RPI.
[diiihockeynews.com]
Someone on Reddit posted what the NPI would have looked like this year and it clearly seems more favorable to weaker schedules than the RPI. Clarkson and us would have been one spot higher in the NPI, quinnipiac would have jumped three spots, Bentley would have been 17th, etc.