Recruits 2025 and Beyond

BearLover
—it’s massive. 14 incoming recruits must be the largest in the history of Cornell hockey. The staff and leaders are going to have their work cut out for them getting everyone up to speed on the culture and expectations. Adding to the difficulty is that there is a new head coach, a new assistant coach, and very few seniors.

chimpfood
Numbers are also shown on the roster. Gorski is 2, Veilleux 4, McCrady 7, Ryan 12, Fisher 16, Long 17, DiGiulian 18, Arsenault 19, Hiscock 21, Pirtle 22, Hamilton 26, Ashton 27, Cournoyer 30, Roest 40.

I can’t remember another #40 for Cornell, anyone got one?

Beeeej

BearLover
—it’s massive. 14 incoming recruits must be the largest in the history of Cornell hockey. The staff and leaders are going to have their work cut out for them getting everyone up to speed on the culture and expectations. Adding to the difficulty is that there is a new head coach, a new assistant coach, and very few seniors.

IIRC, the incoming group in 1992-93 was also 14. Their senior year (1995-96) was Schafer's first and our first ECAC tournament title in a while.

BearLover

chimpfood
Numbers are also shown on the roster. Gorski is 2, Veilleux 4, McCrady 7, Ryan 12, Fisher 16, Long 17, DiGiulian 18, Arsenault 19, Hiscock 21, Pirtle 22, Hamilton 26, Ashton 27, Cournoyer 30, Roest 40.

I can’t remember another #40 for Cornell, anyone got one?

Major listed as 9, good catch I didn’t notice that.
Major was 16 last year. Is he changing numbers?

stereax

BearLover
One other thing I meant to say above is that bringing in more recruits opens up more slots for future recruits. I commend Schafer, Jones, and the rest of the staff for miraculously retaining every single recruit despite the coaching change. At most programs, a lot of recruits would decommit upon a coaching change, and moreover a new coach would tell existing recruits to take a hike. All 20 or so committed players at the time Schafer announced his retirement remain committed, even those who maybe didn’t put up the junior results they were hoping for. On the other hand, the fact that all these recruits stayed loyal to Cornell, and that the new coaches stayed loyal to the recruits, makes Robertson’s decision to transfer even more bananas.

Michigan is a much bigger program lmao. If they wanted him, playing there is a more "sure-fire" way to getting more eyes and eventually the possibility of an NHL deal. Plus the NIL specter. Plus iirc Mich graduated/lost almost all its good dmen.

chimpfood

BearLover

chimpfood
Numbers are also shown on the roster. Gorski is 2, Veilleux 4, McCrady 7, Ryan 12, Fisher 16, Long 17, DiGiulian 18, Arsenault 19, Hiscock 21, Pirtle 22, Hamilton 26, Ashton 27, Cournoyer 30, Roest 40.

I can’t remember another #40 for Cornell, anyone got one?

Major listed as 9, good catch I didn’t notice that.
Major was 16 last year. Is he changing numbers?

chimpfood
Numbers are also shown on the roster. Gorski is 2, Veilleux 4, McCrady 7, Ryan 12, Fisher 16, Long 17, DiGiulian 18, Arsenault 19, Hiscock 21, Pirtle 22, Hamilton 26, Ashton 27, Cournoyer 30, Roest 40.

I can’t remember another #40 for Cornell, anyone got one?

stereax
Michigan is a much bigger program lmao. If they wanted him, playing there is a more "sure-fire" way to getting more eyes and eventually the possibility of an NHL deal. Plus the NIL specter. Plus iirc Mich graduated/lost almost all its good dmen.

ugarte

stereax
Michigan is a much bigger program lmao. If they wanted him, playing there is a more "sure-fire" way to getting more eyes and eventually the possibility of an NHL deal. Plus the NIL specter. Plus iirc Mich graduated/lost almost all its good dmen.

I don't think it's about "eyes" - that's not an issue. The two big differences IMO are (a) NIL, or at least a scholarship and (b) for an undrafted player, better competition on a weekly basis to show that he can make the jump. Probably a lot more (a) than (b) because making the NHL is such a longshot for most of the NCAA.

(Seeing that bearlover answered before me: I suspect getting noticed as a UDFA can be trickier for a dman. I can see the value in showing how you handle the pressure / speed of better opposition since your scoring is secondary to whether you can keep up at the next level.)

BearLover

chimpfood
Numbers are also shown on the roster. Gorski is 2, Veilleux 4, McCrady 7, Ryan 12, Fisher 16, Long 17, DiGiulian 18, Arsenault 19, Hiscock 21, Pirtle 22, Hamilton 26, Ashton 27, Cournoyer 30, Roest 40.

I can’t remember another #40 for Cornell, anyone got one?

Major was 16 last year. Is he changing numbers?

cbuckser

BearLover

chimpfood
Numbers are also shown on the roster. Gorski is 2, Veilleux 4, McCrady 7, Ryan 12, Fisher 16, Long 17, DiGiulian 18, Arsenault 19, Hiscock 21, Pirtle 22, Hamilton 26, Ashton 27, Cournoyer 30, Roest 40.

I can’t remember another #40 for Cornell, anyone got one?

Major was 16 last year. Is he changing numbers?

16 to 9

stereax
Also disputing Cournoyer as the favorite. I think Keopple is the favorite, Cournoyer is either 2 or 3 in line depending how the team views Katz. Though I expect to see Cournoyer given the opportunity to seize the net at some point. It's possible they pulled him here with the idea that he'd work at the NCAA level this year and become the starter next year. Not sure if Roest is anything more than a 3 guy at this point.

Beeeej

Beeeej

BearLover
—it’s massive. 14 incoming recruits must be the largest in the history of Cornell hockey. The staff and leaders are going to have their work cut out for them getting everyone up to speed on the culture and expectations. Adding to the difficulty is that there is a new head coach, a new assistant coach, and very few seniors.

IIRC, the incoming group in 1992-93 was also 14. Their senior year (1995-96) was Schafer's first and our first ECAC tournament title in a while.

Found a bigger one - 1975-76 incoming was 17 (which included Nethery and Shier). Crazy!

stereax
Also disputing Cournoyer as the favorite. I think Keopple is the favorite, Cournoyer is either 2 or 3 in line depending how the team views Katz. Though I expect to see Cournoyer given the opportunity to seize the net at some point. It's possible they pulled him here with the idea that he'd work at the NCAA level this year and become the starter next year. Not sure if Roest is anything more than a 3 guy at this point.

ugarte
[gratuitous and poorly reasoned shot at bearlover's concerns about the shift from schafer to jones that converts his anxiety about change into a moral judgment]

Trotsky

ugarte
[gratuitous and poorly reasoned shot at bearlover's concerns about the shift from schafer to jones that converts his anxiety about change into a moral judgment]

While fair, let's declare Jubilee and give everybody grace for a new year, a new coach, a new era. "What a difference in this generation!"

BearLover

stereax
Also disputing Cournoyer as the favorite. I think Keopple is the favorite, Cournoyer is either 2 or 3 in line depending how the team views Katz. Though I expect to see Cournoyer given the opportunity to seize the net at some point. It's possible they pulled him here with the idea that he'd work at the NCAA level this year and become the starter next year. Not sure if Roest is anything more than a 3 guy at this point.

I hope Keopple wins the starting job because I like when loyal upperclassmen succeed. But Cournoyer’s junior numbers and NHL draft prospects are on another level. Keopple may start game 1 but I expect Cournoyer to take over as the season progresses. Again, it would be cool if I’m wrong here. Not sure what the basis is for thinking Katz>Roest, both struggled in juniors but so did Shane, it’s not the end of the world and goalies are very hard to project.

stereax

BearLover

stereax
Also disputing Cournoyer as the favorite. I think Keopple is the favorite, Cournoyer is either 2 or 3 in line depending how the team views Katz. Though I expect to see Cournoyer given the opportunity to seize the net at some point. It's possible they pulled him here with the idea that he'd work at the NCAA level this year and become the starter next year. Not sure if Roest is anything more than a 3 guy at this point.

I hope Keopple wins the starting job because I like when loyal upperclassmen succeed. But Cournoyer’s junior numbers and NHL draft prospects are on another level. Keopple may start game 1 but I expect Cournoyer to take over as the season progresses. Again, it would be cool if I’m wrong here. Not sure what the basis is for thinking Katz>Roest, both struggled in juniors but so did Shane, it’s not the end of the world and goalies are very hard to project.

I'm guessing Katz over Roest bc Katz has been with the team last year. Also, are we all forgetting Cournoyer's juniors numbers are in a tiny sample size? It feels like we're all forgetting that.

I wouldn't mind a platoon either, but we'll see how things go.