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Recruits 2025 and Beyond

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Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: scoop85 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: August 03, 2024 11:44PM

Time for a new recruit thread. 1st recruit of the new Schafer-Jones era, Jack Broderick from Rye, New York. Will play prep hockey at the Kent School this year, and was drafted by Tri-City of the USHL.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 04, 2024 04:48AM

scoop85
Time for a new recruit thread. 1st recruit of the new Schafer-Jones era, Jack Broderick from Rye, New York.

Mandatory:


 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 09, 2024 12:13PM

According to Chris Heisenberg, RD Luca Diplacido of St. Andrews College to Cornell in 2027 or 2028.


[www.eliteprospects.com]
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: abmarks (207.193.220.---)
Date: August 09, 2024 07:32PM

ursusminor
According to Chris Heisenberg, RD Luca Diplacido of St. Andrews College to Cornell in 2027 or 2028.


[www.eliteprospects.com]

6'1 and 187lbs...and he's not even turned 16 yet.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: Ken711 (---.clppva.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 20, 2024 10:29AM

Sam Peckham
@sampeckham4
6m
I am honored to announce my commitment to further my education and play Division 1 hockey at Cornell University. I would like to thank God, my family, friends, coaches, advisor, and everyone else who has helped me along the way. #BigRed

[www.eliteprospects.com]
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: scoop85 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: August 20, 2024 01:25PM

Ken711
Sam Peckham
@sampeckham4
6m
I am honored to announce my commitment to further my education and play Division 1 hockey at Cornell University. I would like to thank God, my family, friends, coaches, advisor, and everyone else who has helped me along the way. #BigRed

[www.eliteprospects.com]

Nice to see. We haven’t had many MN HS recruits recently.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: September 13, 2024 11:22AM

Real change coming. Probably a good time to be a well-known brand in Canada. [x.com]

 

 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: September 13, 2024 02:31PM

ugarte
Real change coming. Probably a good time to be a well-known brand in Canada. [x.com]
Well, Casey speaks French. Maybe we can get some players from the QMJHL.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: scoop85 (---.biz.spectrum.com)
Date: October 01, 2024 04:52PM

The wonderfully named Maddex Marmulak has left the BCHL and signed with a team in the Quebec Maritime Major Junior League. While players from the Canadian Major Juniors may be able to play NCAA hockey soon, Heisenberg has deleted Marmulak from our list of recruits; it seems unlikely he'll be Ithaca bound.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 04, 2024 05:12PM

Henri Ament LW from Shattuck St. Mary's according to Chris Heisenberg.

[www.eliteprospects.com]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/05/2024 04:19AM by ursusminor.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: marty (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: October 04, 2024 06:07PM

ursusminor
Henri Ament LW from Shattuck St. Mary's

[www.eliteprospects.com]

Oh my God, the ghost of Bob Norton is impressed.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 05, 2024 11:13AM

ursusminor
According to Chris Heisenberg, RD Luca Diplacido of St. Andrews College to Cornell in 2027 or 2028.


[www.eliteprospects.com]



 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 05, 2024 11:41AM

Current AFAIK. Some (Wishart? Pirtle?) may no longer be in the pipeline.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: scoop85 (---.sub-174-242-135.myvzw.com)
Date: October 05, 2024 01:01PM

Trotsky
Current AFAIK. Some (Wishart? Pirtle?) may no longer be in the pipeline.

I believe Wishart's no longer coming but Pirtle should be
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: BearLover (134.238.186.---)
Date: October 07, 2024 12:46PM

Trotsky
Current AFAIK. Some (Wishart? Pirtle?) may no longer be in the pipeline.
Chris Heisenberg keeps a list that you can reference.

[docs.google.com]
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: scoop85 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: October 09, 2024 10:27PM

scoop85
The wonderfully named Maddex Marmulak has left the BCHL and signed with a team in the Quebec Maritime Major Junior League. While players from the Canadian Major Juniors may be able to play NCAA hockey soon, Heisenberg has deleted Marmulak from our list of recruits; it seems unlikely he'll be Ithaca bound.

Well, Marmulak may still be Ithaca bound:

[x.com]
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 10, 2024 08:49AM

That was... confusing.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 10, 2024 03:12PM

scoop85
scoop85
The wonderfully named Maddex Marmulak has left the BCHL and signed with a team in the Quebec Maritime Major Junior League. While players from the Canadian Major Juniors may be able to play NCAA hockey soon, Heisenberg has deleted Marmulak from our list of recruits; it seems unlikely he'll be Ithaca bound.

Well, Marmulak may still be Ithaca bound:

[x.com]

I sent a message to Chris Heisenberg about this, and he changed his listing. He also pointed out that when the rules were different, Clint Campbell played 2 years at Cornell after being in the QMJHL. [www.hockeydb.com]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/10/2024 03:56PM by ursusminor.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 10, 2024 03:55PM

I am curious what the Cornell coaching staff told Marmulak. They must have a strong belief that CHL players will soon be NCAA-eligible. But the coaches can’t know that for certain until it actually happens. Whether the idea to switch teams came from Marmulak (likely) or the Cornell coaches (unlikely), both parties had to accept some amount of risk that he would lose his spot at Cornell.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/10/2024 03:56PM by BearLover.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 10, 2024 06:53PM

why would he lose a spot at cornell? Its not like they have scholie limits to deal with.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: scoop85 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: October 10, 2024 07:30PM

upprdeck
why would he lose a spot at cornell? Its not like they have scholie limits to deal with.

He would lose a spot if the CHL players aren’t in fact permitted to play NCAA hockey.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: ugarte (---.sub-174-244-145.myvzw.com)
Date: October 10, 2024 08:10PM

upprdeck
why would he lose a spot at cornell? Its not like they have scholie limits to deal with.
until CHL players are eligible to play in the NCAA, he's not eligible if he goes that route

 
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 15, 2024 03:41PM

[x.com]

Reegan Hiscock, former Northeastern recruit


[www.eliteprospects.com]
[bchl.ca]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/15/2024 04:28PM by ursusminor.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: CU2007 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: October 15, 2024 08:40PM

ursusminor
[x.com]

Reegan Hiscock, former Northeastern recruit


[www.eliteprospects.com]
[bchl.ca]

Opposing fans may get creative with that name
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: Trotsky (185.211.32.---)
Date: October 16, 2024 05:11AM

ursusminor
[x.com]

Reegan Hiscock, former Northeastern recruit


[www.eliteprospects.com]
[bchl.ca]

He is:
  • Tallest prospect at 6' 5"
  • Second-oldest prospect after Wishart
  • Teammate of Pirtle at Victoria Grizzlies
  • A Newfie!

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/16/2024 05:11AM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: CAS (104.28.57.---)
Date: October 16, 2024 06:57AM

Wishart is currently a freshman at Middlebury College.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: Trotsky (185.211.32.---)
Date: October 16, 2024 08:04PM

CAS
Wishart is currently a freshman at Middlebury College.
Well then he'll have a year of NC$$ experience.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-229-67.myvzw.com)
Date: October 25, 2024 10:22AM

Cole Tuminaro is listed as a potential 6th- or 7th-round draft pick on the NHL Central Scouting “Players to Watch” preliminary rankings. No other Cornell recruits made the list. We could be looking at the second year in a row of zero Cornell players/recruits drafted. I believe it’s been awhile since that has happened.

Recruiting looks solid enough; we have some players coming who are older and/or putting up strong numbers in junior hockey. But while we do continue to get a bunch of “good” recruits, we remain largely noncompetitive for the elite ones. Last year’s amazing freshman class with five draft picks was an aberration, not the norm.

I’ll try to do a write-up of our recruits once the junior season gets further along unless scoop85 beats me to it.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: October 25, 2024 11:04AM

NIL
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-229-67.myvzw.com)
Date: October 25, 2024 11:14AM

upprdeck
NIL
No
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-229-67.myvzw.com)
Date: October 25, 2024 12:10PM

BearLover
upprdeck
NIL
No
To expand on this:
1. Most of our recruits committed years ago, before NIL existed
2. Half of our recruits are outside the US, so not eligible for NIL
3. We have seen zero decommits the past two years, so nobody is leaving for Michigan or another program who theoretically could offer NIL
4. I haven’t seen signs NIL is a significant presence in hockey. News coverage about NIL has made it sound like it is almost entirely concentrated in football, basketball, and a few other athletes with huge social media followings

Therefore I would assume NIL has had practically zero impact on what I described above.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: October 25, 2024 03:10PM

Yes, Canadian kids can get NIL.

Its called NIL now.. It was called "under the table before"
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 25, 2024 05:49PM

upprdeck
Yes, Canadian kids can get NIL.
Can they? From US based sources? I don't think so. I thought not, because of US labor and immigration law and the conditions of their visas rather than the NIL rules themselves.

 
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: dbilmes (64.224.255.---)
Date: October 25, 2024 07:27PM

Canadian college athletes can't benefit directly from NIL:

However, one group has been left out of the process entirely: international students.

Despite making up nearly 12.8 per cent of all Division 1 NCAA athletes and 14 per cent of basketball players, foreign student-athletes are mostly unable to profit from NIL. That includes Canadians, who represent far and away the most NCAA athletes from any country outside the United States.

“With NIL deals in America, I’m on a student visa,” reigning Naismith Men’s College Player of the Year, Toronto’s Zach Edey, told Sportsnet.ca. “So, I’m not really allowed to do a lot of those deals over there: I can’t film a commercial or do anything. Only thing I can really get is my jersey sales when I'm in America.”

That’s because nearly all international student-athletes are on F-1 (student) visas, which do not allow them to engage in employment outside of “on-campus” work or other specific programs geared toward career development such as an internship. They are unable to participate in “active” engagements while on American soil, including most of the traditional influencer-based NIL activations such as posting on social media or filming a commercial. Foreign student-athletes are allowed to profit off “passive” engagements, such as jersey sales or EA Sports video game licencing in America, but these tend to be a very small percentage of NIL profits for most athletes.

This means that as international athletes continue to bring hundreds of millions of dollars into their universities through sports, they are seeing a tiny percentage of the profit — and an unequal share compared to their American counterparts.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: October 25, 2024 09:07PM

yes. They can't do deals with things while in the US. They can do deals with stuff in their own country though.

So say Cornell had an Alum from Canada who is doing well and wanted to do some NIL thing in Toronto.

Thats what bball and other sports are doing for NIL.

Requires some more effort though to arrange.. But really how much NIL money is floating around the CU campus?
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 07, 2024 05:27PM

So they decided to allow the CHL kids to play going into next yr

Not sure if those kids would be in our scope or not.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: chimpfood (---.cit.cornell.edu)
Date: November 07, 2024 05:38PM

upprdeck
So they decided to allow the CHL kids to play going into next yr

Not sure if those kids would be in our scope or not.
Considering we had one commit before the decision I would say yes.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 08, 2024 02:38PM

upprdeck
So they decided to allow the CHL kids to play going into next yr

Not sure if those kids would be in our scope or not.

Clarkson got a commitment from an OHL goalie. [thehockeynews.com]
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 08, 2024 06:42PM

CHN Podcast thinks the CHL decision is bad for factory programs since the talent pool will be too large for them to monopolize.

Fun fact: of the 30 schools on the panel that made the ruling, only 2 have any hockey program at all.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-229-94.myvzw.com)
Date: November 08, 2024 07:03PM

Trotsky
CHN Podcast thinks the CHL decision is bad for factory programs since the talent pool will be too large for them to monopolize.

Fun fact: of the 30 schools on the panel that made the ruling, only 2 have any hockey program at all.
It will be relatively bad for the best teams because the best players will be recruited at 16, not 19-20 after a career in the CHL. But will it benefit Cornell? It remains to be seen how many of these kids can/want to go to Ivy League schools.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/08/2024 07:03PM by BearLover.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 08, 2024 07:18PM

BearLover
But will it benefit Cornell? It remains to be seen how many of these kids can/want to go to Ivy League schools.
In my experience following the CHL for 7 years: virtually none will have the grades or the inclination.

Thank god for the Hotel school.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 08, 2024 07:19PM

.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/08/2024 07:21PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: abmarks (---.hsd1.vt.comcast.net)
Date: November 09, 2024 08:58AM

BearLover
Trotsky
CHN Podcast thinks the CHL decision is bad for factory programs since the talent pool will be too large for them to monopolize.

Fun fact: of the 30 schools on the panel that made the ruling, only 2 have any hockey program at all.
It will be relatively bad for the best teams because the best players will be recruited at 16, not 19-20 after a career in the CHL. But will it benefit Cornell? It remains to be seen how many of these kids can/want to go to Ivy League schools.


I don't follow the 16yo vs 19-20 angle

The absolute studs coming out of high school are not waiting until they are 20 to commit to a NCAA school. Id think the same would apply to high end talent that might go CHL (or already in it if you can be at 16)

Aren't the Michigans, BC, BU, Minnesota, Denvers of the world already getting the best young? What changes here?

I must be missing something.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: jts15 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: November 09, 2024 09:05AM

Topher Scott
@HockeyThinkTank
Alright, honest thoughts on the new CHL ruling allowing major junior players to play college hockey starting next year:

1. It's going to make college and pro hockey better. The talent pool for college just went through the roof and now drafted kids that aren't ready for pro at 20 have a bigger runway for their development. The product on the ice at the highest levels just became way better.

2. College hockey will potentially be much more Canadian moving forward - so it's up to the current USA Junior leagues that feed to college to up their game. I think there are a lot of teams that do a great job of development. There are also teams with challenges, especially when it comes to who owns the teams. There is much more competition in the market now fighting for top end players, and hopefully the USHL and others can take that with some competitive fire and make their product even better.

3. Adapt or die for college teams. College hockey is so significantly different today then before. Transfer rules, NIL, major junior, etc... There are some changes I like, some I don't. But ultimately at the end of the day the rules are what the rules are and if you just complain about it and don't change you'll get left behind. Colleges are going to have to fundraise more. They're going to have to gain new relationships in the youth/junior/pro world. They're going to have to continue to battle the transfer portal. That's the new reality.

Now, all that being said, I think the teams that do it best provide a great environment for their players where they feel like they're taken care of and they feel like they're being developed. The best coaches don't placate to kids or "don't coach them for fear they will transfer". They're authentic, do things the right way, challenge kids to be better, and create a great culture. Are the conditions more difficult with the transfer portal? Absolutely. But the best have an authentic culture and don't get wrapped up in the things they can't control.

4. I feel sad for a lot of kids that are going to be decommitted this year and kids on college rosters that will be told they don't have a place on their roster next year. That's the worst part and an unfortunate byproduct from this ruling. Hopefully this doesn't happen too much, but it will. Colleges will take the best players that will help their team win. And with so many new players added to the player pool, spots are going to be taken.

5. Relationships with NHL GM's and front offices just got A LOT more important for college coaches. Not that those weren't important before - but this ruling puts it on steriods. There are a lot of high round NHL draft picks that are not ready to play pro at 20-21 years old and they'll need a place to marinate. And where are these kids going to play? They're going to play where their NHL team feels like it's a best fit for their development. If you are a college coach that can clearly define your development plan and principles and NHL teams trust you - that's a huge win on the recruiting front of the highest level players.

Get ready for a whole new landscape.

[x.com]
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-229-76.myvzw.com)
Date: November 09, 2024 09:32AM

jts15
Topher Scott
@HockeyThinkTank
Alright, honest thoughts on the new CHL ruling allowing major junior players to play college hockey starting next year:

5. Relationships with NHL GM's and front offices just got A LOT more important for college coaches. Not that those weren't important before - but this ruling puts it on steriods. There are a lot of high round NHL draft picks that are not ready to play pro at 20-21 years old and they'll need a place to marinate. And where are these kids going to play? They're going to play where their NHL team feels like it's a best fit for their development. If you are a college coach that can clearly define your development plan and principles and NHL teams trust you - that's a huge win on the recruiting front of the highest level players.

Get ready for a whole new landscape.

[x.com]

Would NHL teams still have rights to these players by the time they are age 20/21? Anybody know the rule for how long NHL teams retain rights to drafted players in the CHL?

Anyway, 0% chance any of these players ever come to Cornell. Ivies aren’t going to accept rental players who are going to college for a year or two to “marinate.” So that’s one big downside of this new rule.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-229-76.myvzw.com)
Date: November 09, 2024 09:36AM

abmarks
BearLover
Trotsky
CHN Podcast thinks the CHL decision is bad for factory programs since the talent pool will be too large for them to monopolize.

Fun fact: of the 30 schools on the panel that made the ruling, only 2 have any hockey program at all.
It will be relatively bad for the best teams because the best players will be recruited at 16, not 19-20 after a career in the CHL. But will it benefit Cornell? It remains to be seen how many of these kids can/want to go to Ivy League schools.


I don't follow the 16yo vs 19-20 angle

The absolute studs coming out of high school are not waiting until they are 20 to commit to a NCAA school. Id think the same would apply to high end talent that might go CHL (or already in it if you can be at 16)

Aren't the Michigans, BC, BU, Minnesota, Denvers of the world already getting the best young? What changes here?

I must be missing something.
Those teams will still get the best young players. But now the pool of older players is much bigger and deeper for all the other teams who rely on recruiting older less heralded players. So comparatively the BCs of the world have less of an advantage.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/09/2024 09:38AM by BearLover.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 09, 2024 01:39PM

BearLover
Anyway, 0% chance any of these players ever come to Cornell. Ivies aren’t going to accept rental players who are going to college for a year or two to “marinate.” So that’s one big downside of this new rule.
Brother, you need better antidepressants.

 
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-215-248.myvzw.com)
Date: November 09, 2024 01:57PM

I'll continue to say I'd take the "right" 23 year old nonprospect over the "wrong" 19 year old draft pick.

Gabriel Seger might be the best Cornell player I've seen, recency bias or not.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: abmarks (107.123.17.---)
Date: November 10, 2024 05:05AM

BearLover
abmarks
BearLover
Trotsky
CHN Podcast thinks the CHL decision is bad for factory programs since the talent pool will be too large for them to monopolize.

Fun fact: of the 30 schools on the panel that made the ruling, only 2 have any hockey program at all.
It will be relatively bad for the best teams because the best players will be recruited at 16, not 19-20 after a career in the CHL. But will it benefit Cornell? It remains to be seen how many of these kids can/want to go to Ivy League schools.


I don't follow the 16yo vs 19-20 angle

The absolute studs coming out of high school are not waiting until they are 20 to commit to a NCAA school. Id think the same would apply to high end talent that might go CHL (or already in it if you can be at 16)

Aren't the Michigans, BC, BU, Minnesota, Denvers of the world already getting the best young? What changes here?

I must be missing something.
Those teams will still get the best young players. But now the pool of older players is much bigger and deeper for all the other teams who rely on recruiting older less heralded players. So comparatively the BCs of the world have less of an advantage.

Fair enough. But doesn't it also increase size and talent level in the pool of stud 16 year olds?

The top 100 kids not yet committed to an NCAA school will now be significantly more talented than before. This is over simplified, but if the top 100 worked out to be the top 50 American high school kids and the top 50 chl eligible 16 year olds in canada, then the 100th ranked kid today has the talent of the 50th ranked one in the past.

If Michigan lands 4 kids in the top 100, they'll be even higher end talent than before.

Also, they could well get more high end commits than before. Idk the exact numbers, but let's say that the potential recruit pool has now doubled in total. But the number of NCAA teams is the same. Today there are plenty of recruiting battles at all levels, but I'm sure that the BCs and Michigans etc are battling over those top recruits all the time, and while winning some, they also lose out to the other schools too.

So if the high end pool is now bigger, but the number of roster spots in D1 hasn't, id think that those schools would actually land more studs per year. Why? If you're that good, you're not all of a sudden going to choose a program a step down. You're still going to the factory school.

If this was bball and a similar thing happened, don't you think duke is going to get even more studs than before?

I saw a comment on the web somewhere the other day about college football. The guy was a bit incredulous when talking about sec football. Something to the effect of "every guy good enough to go to Auburn thinks they're gonna be the man...Even the dude who's 5th on the depth chart who will probably never see the field. You'd think they'd go somewhere that's still a tremendous winning D1 program,where they'd start probably even start. But if you're good enough to sign there, all those guys egos say that they are going to be the one thats at the top of the depth chart; they've never known anything different"
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: CAS (146.75.253.---)
Date: November 19, 2024 01:21PM

Recruit Gio DiGiullian, after a hat trick on Saturday, is currently tied for most goals this season in the USHL.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: randyranger (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 25, 2024 03:10PM

Xavier Veilleux, Presently with Muskegon (their leading scorer as a Dman) in USHL. Was a Harvard commit, now coming in either '25 or '26. Sixth round pick of the Islanders in the 2024 draft.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 25, 2024 03:54PM

randyranger
Xavier Veilleux, Presently with Muskegon (their leading scorer as a Dman) in USHL. Was a Harvard commit, now coming in either '25 or '26. Sixth round pick of the Islanders in the 2024 draft.
Stealing a guy from Harvard? His name begins and ends with x like a gamer tag? Drafted, so he comes pre-approved by people who hyperventilate about how many of our recruits are drafted? Already a winner.

 
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: CAS (104.28.55.---)
Date: November 25, 2024 04:08PM

Named to the 1st-team all-USHL rookie team last season. Can’t wait to see him on Lynah ice.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: scoop85 (---.biz.spectrum.com)
Date: November 25, 2024 04:22PM

ugarte
randyranger
Xavier Veilleux, Presently with Muskegon (their leading scorer as a Dman) in USHL. Was a Harvard commit, now coming in either '25 or '26. Sixth round pick of the Islanders in the 2024 draft.
Stealing a guy from Harvard? His name begins and ends with x like a gamer tag? Drafted, so he comes pre-approved by people who hyperventilate about how many of our recruits are drafted? Already a winner.

Yep, a certain someone is having multiples over this
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-229-80.myvzw.com)
Date: November 25, 2024 05:22PM

scoop85
ugarte
randyranger
Xavier Veilleux, Presently with Muskegon (their leading scorer as a Dman) in USHL. Was a Harvard commit, now coming in either '25 or '26. Sixth round pick of the Islanders in the 2024 draft.
Stealing a guy from Harvard? His name begins and ends with x like a gamer tag? Drafted, so he comes pre-approved by people who hyperventilate about how many of our recruits are drafted? Already a winner.

Yep, a certain someone is having multiples over this
osorojo
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 25, 2024 10:19PM

CAS
Named to the 1st-team all-USHL rookie team last season. Can’t wait to see him on Lynah ice.
Holy shit. This is really good news. banana

Birthplace: L'Ancienne-Lorette, Quebec.

Casey Jones: Temiscaming, Quebec.

Just sayin'.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/25/2024 10:20PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: David Harding (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: November 25, 2024 10:26PM

randyranger
Xavier Veilleux, Presently with Muskegon (their leading scorer as a Dman) in USHL. Was a Harvard commit, now coming in either '25 or '26. Sixth round pick of the Islanders in the 2024 draft.
Nuts! Our local USHL team has already played Muskegon several times this season and won't see them again. He'd be fun to check out.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: TimV (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: November 26, 2024 10:17AM

Initials are XV. Be cool if Catalano gave him number 15 to wear.

 
___________________________
"Yo Paulie - I don't see no crowd gathering 'round you neither."
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-229-80.myvzw.com)
Date: November 26, 2024 10:34AM

I’m not sure this is Cornell directly poaching a Harvard recruit, more like he decommitted from Harvard a little while ago and must have valued education to some degree, plus Casey’s Quebec ties may have played a role, so he later decided to commit to Cornell. With that said, this is definitely a bullish indicator because just about every program in the country would have been interested in this guy. While Cornell does end up with some drafted/heralded players, it’s always because they commit early before they’ve received much hype. In this case, we have an already-drafted player putting up great numbers in the USHL who decided on Cornell when he could have likely picked among elite hockey programs.

This is also probably a sign there isn’t much/any NIL in college hockey right now.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: David Harding (---.dhcp.fnal.gov)
Date: November 26, 2024 08:51PM

CAS
Recruit Gio DiGiullian, after a hat trick on Saturday, is currently tied for most goals this season in the USHL.
And I missed my last chance of the season to see him, too.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 27, 2024 03:10AM

BearLover
While Cornell does end up with some drafted/heralded players, it’s always because they commit early before they’ve received much hype.

Let's say "usually." Alex Green was already a highly regarded 4th round draft pick when he committed. Joakim Ryan and Brian Ferlin were both hyped as incoming players. Riley Nash was practically an "I'm taking my talents to Ithaca" press conference.

I won't mention Sasha. Poor Sasha...
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 27, 2024 03:14AM

TimV
Initials are XV. Be cool if Catalano gave him number 15 to wear.

That would be great. He's a simple 5 at Muskegon. Go full Roman.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: scoop85 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: November 27, 2024 09:00AM

Trotsky
BearLover
While Cornell does end up with some drafted/heralded players, it’s always because they commit early before they’ve received much hype.

Let's say "usually." Alex Green was already a highly regarded 4th round draft pick when he committed. Joakim Ryan and Brian Ferlin were both hyped as incoming players. Riley Nash was practically an "I'm taking my talents to Ithaca" press conference.

I won't mention Sasha. Poor Sasha...

Green was drafted by Tampa after his Freshman season.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-229-80.myvzw.com)
Date: November 27, 2024 09:07AM

Trotsky
BearLover
While Cornell does end up with some drafted/heralded players, it’s always because they commit early before they’ve received much hype.

Let's say "usually." Alex Green was already a highly regarded 4th round draft pick when he committed. Joakim Ryan and Brian Ferlin were both hyped as incoming players. Riley Nash was practically an "I'm taking my talents to Ithaca" press conference.

I won't mention Sasha. Poor Sasha...
I think you have these backwards. Green and Ryan were drafted after their freshman seasons. I’d have to go back to see when Ferline was drafted, but I suspect it was well after he committed to Cornell. Nash committed because his older brother was coming. So I don’t believe any of these are cases of players with hype before they committed (except perhaps Nash, but that was a special case because of his brother).
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/27/2024 09:08AM by BearLover.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 27, 2024 09:02PM

I said they were hyped coming in.

I may be wrong about Green's draft year though.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/27/2024 09:03PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-229-80.myvzw.com)
Date: November 27, 2024 10:54PM

Trotsky
I said they were hyped coming in.

I may be wrong about Green's draft year though.
Veilleux is unique because he was already drafted when he committed, that’s my point.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 28, 2024 06:12AM

If I'm going to have a fight on Thanksgiving that I don't understand I'll stick to my family.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: Ken711 (---.clppva.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 01, 2024 06:49PM

Luke McCrady -6'3" Defense

[edgemountaineers.com]

[www.eliteprospects.com]
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: ursusminor (---.res.east.verizon.net)
Date: December 03, 2024 03:00PM

According to Heisenberg: Cole Emerton

[www.eliteprospects.com]
[www.ojhl.ca]
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: scoop85 (---.biz.spectrum.com)
Date: December 26, 2024 02:25PM

Michael Dec is joining Owen Sound of the OHL after the New Year as an "affiliate" player for the remainder of the 2024-25 season; as an affiliate player he's limited to 10 games this season, but will be a full-time player in 25-26. He's still on track to arrive in Ithaca in the Fall of 2026.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: chimpfood (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: December 26, 2024 04:49PM

[windsornewstoday.ca] This article says 27-28 but maybe that’s just his team being hopeful that he stays until he ages out.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 26, 2024 10:23PM

scoop85
Michael Dec is joining Owen Sound of the OHL after the New Year as an "affiliate" player for the remainder of the 2024-25 season; as an affiliate player he's limited to 10 games this season, but will be a full-time player in 25-26. He's still on track to arrive in Ithaca in the Fall of 2026.

Apparently he can play more than 10 under Ontario Hockey Association regulation 23.1:


All affiliate players (16 year-olds and older) are permitted to play 10 games as an affiliate player. Once their registered lower category team is eliminated from regular competition including playoffs, Affiliate players can play an unlimited number of games at the higher level only if they have played a minimum of 10 games with their registered lower category team. Players not meeting this requirement will be limited to 10 games only with the higher category as an affiliate.

Christ I feel like Jory Jordan.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 12/26/2024 10:25PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: CAS (146.75.253.---)
Date: December 28, 2024 09:35AM

Caton Ryan, a center with the Penticon Vees of the BCHL, has committed to Cornell. He was placed on the NHL Central Scouting preliminary players to watch list last year, & is a Clarkson decommit.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/28/2024 09:41AM by CAS.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: chimpfood (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: December 28, 2024 09:55AM

Also decommitted from colgate previously, wouldn’t count on him until he’s in the building at this rate.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: CAS (104.28.56.---)
Date: December 28, 2024 10:14AM

His prior commitments were to schools where the coaches had left (including Casey to Cornell).
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: Trotsky (192.145.118.---)
Date: December 28, 2024 11:27AM

chimpfood
Also decommitted from colgate previously, wouldn’t count on him until he’s in the building at this rate.
He's run out of ECAC C's.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: Trotsky (192.145.118.---)
Date: December 28, 2024 11:29AM

CAS
Caton Ryan, a center with the Penticon Vees of the BCHL, has committed to Cornell. He was placed on the NHL Central Scouting preliminary players to watch list last year, & is a Clarkson decommit.

From hockey hotbed San Francisco.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: Trotsky (192.145.118.---)
Date: December 28, 2024 11:39AM

CAS
Wishart is currently a freshman at Middlebury College.
He's not on their roster and Elite Prospects has him playing for the St. Cloud Norsemen in the NAHL.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: CAS (---.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com)
Date: December 28, 2024 01:36PM

Interesting re Wishart. He was listed as part of Middlebury’s ‘28 hockey class. The Penticton Vees list Caton Ryan’s hometown as Kanata, ON.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/28/2024 02:12PM by CAS.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: Redpucks1! (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: December 28, 2024 10:01PM

Michael Dec with 1 goal & 1 assist in his OHL debut tonight with Owen Sound!
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: scoop85 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: February 10, 2025 06:56PM

Another Casey Jones Quebec recruit, left winger who recently joined Basie-Comeau Drakkar of the QMJHL:

[x.com]
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: ursusminor (---.res.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 11, 2025 05:32AM

scoop85
Another Casey Jones Quebec recruit, left winger who recently joined Basie-Comeau Drakkar of the QMJHL:

[x.com]

He was there as an AP for 2 games in January, and he's back at Charles-Lemoyne. I add that Neutral Zone rates him as 4.0 *'s as opposed to the 3.5 from the x-tweet you posted.

FWIW, RPI recruit Ryan Dwyer of Stanstead was an AP in Baie-Comeau last weekend. He played against his father's team. [x.com]
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: CAS (---.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com)
Date: February 11, 2025 06:48AM

Casey is attracting some impressive talent to Cornell. He appears to be an excellent recruiter.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: ursusminor (---.res.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 11, 2025 07:08AM

I add that the most recent post (dated 7/31/24) on Neutral Zone which mentions Kirkwood is free. [neutralzone.com]


Aiden Kirkwood, F, Charles Lemoyne, 4.0 Star Prospect, Unsigned in QMJHL, Sport Prospects

Kirkwood was our #37 ranked QMJHL Draft prospect but fell to 77th in the QMJHL Draft because of doubts he’d report to camp. He’s a responsible, mature, two-way forward with balanced edges and a knack for getting pucks to the net. He had 23 points in 40 games this season against older competition at Charles Lemoyne in the Quebec Midget AAA U18 league and finished the QMJHL Cup with 3 goals in 4 games. His style of play fits the college game and with Baie Comeau in his backyard, NCAA schools might move quicker than they would normally to give themselves a better chance.

Note that this was before the NCAA allowed colleges to recruit players with Major Junior experience.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: adamw (---.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
Date: February 11, 2025 11:32AM

CAS
Casey is attracting some impressive talent to Cornell. He appears to be an excellent recruiter.

That has been evident for approximately 30 years.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-229-90.myvzw.com)
Date: February 12, 2025 02:28PM

What are the indicators that Casey is recruiting well? I’m not denying it, I’m just wondering where that notion is coming from. Since Casey was announced as Schafer’s successor, twelve players have committed (which is a lot). They’re mostly quite young and none of them are really putting up eye-popping numbers. The big get was poaching Veilleux from Harvard, but the other recruits seem kind of up in the air to me.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 12, 2025 02:40PM

BearLover
What are the indicators that Casey is recruiting well? I’m not denying it, I’m just wondering where that notion is coming from. Since Casey was announced as Schafer’s successor, twelve players have committed (which is a lot). They’re mostly quite young and none of them are really putting up eye-popping numbers. The big get was poaching Veilleux from Harvard, but the other recruits seem kind of up in the air to me.
I believe he was credited with some very good gets his first tour with us.

Although TBH I am always skeptical about assigning provenance for a commitment to a coach. Not that it's impossible or even improbable -- just that it's the kind of inside baseball (?) that only the specific people involved will ever really know.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/12/2025 02:42PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-229-90.myvzw.com)
Date: February 12, 2025 02:47PM

Trotsky
BearLover
What are the indicators that Casey is recruiting well? I’m not denying it, I’m just wondering where that notion is coming from. Since Casey was announced as Schafer’s successor, twelve players have committed (which is a lot). They’re mostly quite young and none of them are really putting up eye-popping numbers. The big get was poaching Veilleux from Harvard, but the other recruits seem kind of up in the air to me.
I believe he was credited with some very good gets his first tour with us.

Although TBH I am always skeptical about assigning provenance for a commitment to a coach. Not that it's impossible or even improbable -- just that it's the kind of inside baseball (?) that only the specific people involved will ever really know.
Oh, I agree that he seemed like a good recruiter at Clarkson at least. Just don’t know which of our recent commitments people are looking at and going “wow, this kid looks like he’s gonna be great.”
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 12, 2025 03:21PM

BearLover
Oh, I agree that he seemed like a good recruiter at Clarkson at least. Just don’t know which of our recent commitments people are looking at and going “wow, this kid looks like he’s gonna be great.”
I think it's too early to distinguish his work from Mike anyway. Guys who are committing even now were likely first on our radar years before. The only guys who get a straight line drawn to Casey are his Clarkson prospects who followed him. Now, there may be those who were still early in the process when he jumped. The Quebecois seem at least plausible.

We'll see. It will be a few years before we know if there is a significant uptick or drop off. I think portal management may become as if not even more important as the system settles in.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: February 12, 2025 03:54PM

are we assuming Casey stays around all that long? He isnt really that much different in age
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 12, 2025 04:12PM

upprdeck
are we assuming Casey stays around all that long? He isnt really that much different in age
but less time at the helm of a program, so less potential burnout and more realms to conquer. does he have grandkids? is his health better than mike's? age is just a number.

 
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: chimpfood (---.cit.cornell.edu)
Date: February 12, 2025 04:26PM

Health is definitely the factor there. Schaf isn’t THAT old but he is a bigger guy and has has health issues in the past. Casey looks a bit healthier on the surface and hasn’t been a head coach as long so I’d say he’s more likely to keep coaching past where Schaf retired.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 12, 2025 04:38PM

upprdeck
are we assuming Casey stays around all that long? He isn't really that much different in age
Casey is 56. He won't be here for 20, but he could easily make 10 if he is successful and wishes to. Mike is going because of health.

I suspect his over/under is 5 and will be driven by (1) record and (2) whether the game continues to change so severely it needs new eyes to see it.

Ned was born in 1919. Schafer was born in 1962. If patterns hold, our next program-defining coach is 20.


Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 02/12/2025 04:51PM by Trotsky.

 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-229-90.myvzw.com)
Date: February 12, 2025 09:10PM

Unless people have inside information, they’re just speculating why Schafer chose to retire. In reality, it’s probably several things. If it were mostly health-related, it would make little sense why Nikki Moore convinced him to stay another season.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: adamw (---.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
Date: February 12, 2025 11:32PM

Trotsky
BearLover
What are the indicators that Casey is recruiting well? I’m not denying it, I’m just wondering where that notion is coming from. Since Casey was announced as Schafer’s successor, twelve players have committed (which is a lot). They’re mostly quite young and none of them are really putting up eye-popping numbers. The big get was poaching Veilleux from Harvard, but the other recruits seem kind of up in the air to me.
I believe he was credited with some very good gets his first tour with us.

Although TBH I am always skeptical about assigning provenance for a commitment to a coach. Not that it's impossible or even improbable -- just that it's the kind of inside baseball (?) that only the specific people involved will ever really know.

Go look at the track record as far back as Ohio State. Track that program's turnaround at the time, and the players that came in. It wasn't because of the head coach.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: billhoward (83.229.26.---)
Date: February 13, 2025 08:49AM

CAS
Casey is attracting some impressive talent to Cornell. He appears to be an excellent recruiter.
Christ on a stick! A post like that is a lightning rod. You're just asking for ELF conspiracy-theory posters to come out from under their rocks (albeit mined from the Ivy-draped shores of Beebe Lake) and indulge conspiracy theories that put Elon Musk to shame. You know, stuff like, "I knew Casey was no good back when he got swept back to back years by Brown and Princeton because he wore green and yellow not red game-day boxers blah blah blah so prove to me I'm wrong." I love the "prove to me I'm wrong" argument as if the burden of proof automatically shifts by voicing those syllables. Give the guy a chance. Like, don't toilet paper his yard until Cornell loses two games in a row this fall and one is a shootout. Please.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: CAS (104.28.55.---)
Date: February 24, 2025 03:43PM

Recruit Aiden Long has been on a scoring tear in the USHL recently - 12 points in the last 5 games. Currently 11th in the league. Many of our commits are putting up big numbers.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: chimpfood (216.79.19.---)
Date: February 24, 2025 04:17PM

CAS
Recruit Aiden Long has been on a scoring tear in the USHL recently - 12 points in the last 5 games. Currently 11th in the league. Many of our commits are putting up big numbers.
him, Diguilian and veilleux look like really exciting players. I hope roest can produce through the rest of the year because the way they’ve treated keopple this year point to roest being in contention to start.
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: CAS (104.28.55.---)
Date: February 24, 2025 05:42PM

In the BCHL, Chase Pirtle is 8th in points & Reegan Hiscock is 12th in goals scored
 
Re: Recruits 2025 and Beyond
Posted by: chimpfood (---.cit.cornell.edu)
Date: February 24, 2025 05:44PM

Is Pirtle still coming? Don’t see him listed anywhere.
 
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