Opponents and Others, 2022-23

chimpfood
Would someone mind reminding me? For conference tournaments and the ncaa tournament does it follow the same regular season way of 5 minutes of 3x3 OT then a shootout or is it 5x5 OT periods until there’s a winner?

Sudden death full strength the way the Eldritch Gods intended.

Thank god

1-1 tie in Hanover with a full period still to go

The Quinnipiac-Dartmouth feed has a commercial for... Cleveland?

cornell sweeps, harvard loses and we go backwards in the PWR

upprdeck
cornell sweeps, harvard loses and we go backwards in the PWR

The night is young and last I saw there were three dead ties in PWR, at 5, 8, and 10.

Tens of people in attendance at Thompson.

Welp. Dartmouth up, 2-1. 15 mins to go. Katy bar the door.

Trotsky
Welp. Dartmouth up, 2-1. 15 mins to go. Katy bar the door.

That big goalie they’ve got is a problem.

If the Green actually held on*, we would be 2 points behind Q, 39-37.

( * They will not. )

Note also: Cornell currently has 37 derp points, with 6 games and 18 potential points remaining. We had 39 all last season.

Scersk '97

Trotsky
Welp. Dartmouth up, 2-1. 15 mins to go. Katy bar the door.

That big goalie they’ve got is a problem.

Q's defense is playing terribly this period. Did they have an injury?

Trotsky

Scersk '97

Trotsky
Welp. Dartmouth up, 2-1. 15 mins to go. Katy bar the door.

That big goalie they’ve got is a problem.

Q's defense is playing terribly this period. Did they have an injury?

Don’t know, but I’m impressed with Dartmouth’s speed and pressing. They’re playing to win, that’s for sure.

Reid Cashman is starting to look like Roy Kent.

Scersk '97

Trotsky

Scersk '97

Trotsky
Welp. Dartmouth up, 2-1. 15 mins to go. Katy bar the door.

That big goalie they’ve got is a problem.

Q's defense is playing terribly this period. Did they have an injury?

Don’t know, but I’m impressed with Dartmouth’s speed and pressing. They’re playing to win, that’s for sure.

Dartmouth has had a ton of close losses. I don't know if they're good, but they're better than their (hilariously bad) record.

Trotsky
Tens of people in attendance at Thompson.

I assume many are still hungover from preparing to throw tennis balls last night during the losing effort against Princeton

Scersk '97

Trotsky

Scersk '97

Trotsky
Welp. Dartmouth up, 2-1. 15 mins to go. Katy bar the door.

That big goalie they’ve got is a problem.

Q's defense is playing terribly this period. Did they have an injury?

Don’t know, but I’m impressed with Dartmouth’s speed and pressing. They’re playing to win, that’s for sure.

Yeah, I'm enjoying it. This is definitely their YOLO moment.

There is no possible way they can pull this off, right?

Uh... right?

Under 5 minutes now.

Glad to be rooting for Chisholm for once. That guy is good.

It was only a matter of time, unfortunately. Shots are close to 50-20.

Q up 3-2 now after a nice set up in the slot

I appreciate Dartmouth continuing to let me hate them.

Dafatone
I appreciate Dartmouth continuing to let me hate them.

And after they graduate they all go into finance.

It's a vertical monopoly of disgust.

Trotsky
They should be able to do something with The Electric City.

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Scranton is The Electric City, not Schenectady.

Jeff Hopkins '82
Scranton is The Electric City, not Schenectady.

Take it up with Edison.

Trotsky

Jeff Hopkins '82
Scranton is The Electric City, not Schenectady.

Take it up with Edison.

Does anyone know how the Ivy standings are decided? Is it 3 for regulation, 2 for overtime like ECAC? If so, we stand a good shot of at least tying for the league because of H’s 3 ot wins. Minor point but would be nice.

arugula
Does anyone know how the Ivy standings are decided? Is it 3 for regulation, 2 for overtime like ECAC? If so, we stand a good shot of at least tying for the league because of H’s 3 ot wins. Minor point but would be nice.

The official Ivy site appears to use derp points, but NOT the ECAC's derp points. Princeton's record (4-4 .562) doesn't track for either straight nor derp points (ether .500 or .542). Likewise Cornell 6-2 .812 vs .750 or .792.

After wrestling with it for a bit, my conclusion is the Ivy site is just fucked up.

.792 is correct for Cornell. 6 wins equals 18 points plus one loser point. So 19 out of a possible 24 equals .792

I’m not finding any percentages on the Ivy site. Not sure where you are looking.

arugula
I’m not finding any percentages on the Ivy site. Not sure where you are looking.

[ivyleague.com]

arugula
.792 is correct for Cornell. 6 wins equals 18 points plus one loser point. So 19 out of a possible 24 equals .792

Yes that's my point. The site lists Cornell as .812, which makes no sense. It is either .750 using real points or .792 using ECAC derp points.

Trotsky

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Except my picture is real - that sign actually exists. The picture above with Dunder-Mifflin is TV fake.

Just holding onto OT vs BU and we go back to 10th in pwr..

Schadenfreude reminder: 5pm Harvard vs BC

Watching the Beanpot, they just showed a graphic of the coaches of the 4 teams. Donato is coaching in his 18th Beanpot. He's won the title once!

dbilmes
Watching the Beanpot, they just showed a graphic of the coaches of the 4 teams. Donato is coaching in his 18th Beanpot. He's won the title once!

Was there a goal waved off early in the 1st? I don’t get NESN but have the NCAA live play-by-play up and there’s an entry for a goal, but the score stayed 0-0 (until just now as Harvard has apparently scored at the 8:35 mark).

JasonN95

dbilmes
Watching the Beanpot, they just showed a graphic of the coaches of the 4 teams. Donato is coaching in his 18th Beanpot. He's won the title once!

Was there a goal waved off early in the 1st? I don’t get NESN but have the NCAA live play-by-play up and there’s an entry for a goal, but the score stayed 0-0 (until just now as Harvard has apparently scored at the 8:35 mark).

Harvard scored in the first minute, but the goal was disallowed. I'm not sure why since I turned the game just after play resumed.

I guess it’s better for us if Harvard wins, but I just can’t. Listening to the WHRB stream. I have a soft spot for WHRB as an old friend worked on the station but man these kids are smug.

arugula
I guess it’s better for us if Harvard wins, but I just can’t. Listening to the WHRB stream. I have a soft spot for WHRB as an old friend worked on the station but man these kids are smug.

There's a decent chance Harvard losing winds up being better for us, if we end up neck and neck with them in RPI. So, hang your hat on that while rooting against them.

Good. I’ll go with that. Not looking good for BC though.

dbilmes
Watching the Beanpot, they just showed a graphic of the coaches of the 4 teams. Donato is coaching in his 18th Beanpot. He's won the title once!

Northeastern failed to win the Beanpot the first 30 years. I think they only even played in the final something like 5 times.

arugula
I guess it’s better for us if Harvard wins, but I just can’t. Listening to the WHRB stream. I have a soft spot for WHRB as an old friend worked on the station but man these kids are smug.

I always root for the ECAC in NC games.

If it makes it any easier, BC fans are a hundred times worse than Harvard fans, and Harvard fans suck.

Crimson up 3-1, exactly on track for a signature third period collapse to fuck up our RPI.

arugula
Good. I’ll go with that. Not looking good for BC though.

Harvard beating or tying BU would make it harder for us to flip our comparison against them. We need to maintain our RPI lead and either win common opponents or beat them head to head one more time.

We can win common opponents if we keep winning, but Harvard beating or tying BU makes that tougher.

And regardless of whether Harvard wins, they still have to go up to Hanover this weekend and Dartmouth has kept many games close this year.

Harvard outshot 22-2 in 3rd period, and went over 16 minutes without a shot, as BC scores twice in final three minutes to tie game and send it to OT. Then Harvard scores with 1.5 seconds left to pull it out.

dbilmes
Harvard outshot 22-2 in 3rd period, and went over 16 minutes without a shot, as BC scores twice in final three minutes to tie game and send it to OT.

Trotsky

arugula
Does anyone know how the Ivy standings are decided? Is it 3 for regulation, 2 for overtime like ECAC? If so, we stand a good shot of at least tying for the league because of H’s 3 ot wins. Minor point but would be nice.

The official Ivy site appears to use derp points, but NOT the ECAC's derp points. Princeton's record (4-4 .562) doesn't track for either straight nor derp points (ether .500 or .542). Likewise Cornell 6-2 .812 vs .750 or .792.

After wrestling with it for a bit, my conclusion is the Ivy site is just fucked up.

The Ivy site for last year uses derp points correctly but doesn't record OWs and OLs correctly. My assumption is someone just typed in the points and whatever else they scraped up.

But, going by that, we and Harvard should end up tied if we both win out, since both teams will have failed to claim 5 derp points.

dbilmes
Harvard outshot 22-2 in 3rd period, and went over 16 minutes without a shot, as BC scores twice in final three minutes to tie game and send it to OT. Then Harvard scores with 1.5 seconds left to pull it out.

For such a talented team (I’m told) they get pushed to OT an awful lot. That’s their 7th OT, winning 5 of them. 3x3 shinny benefits a team that has a Coronado line.

I don’t pay close attention to little regional tournaments like this. Was this also a 5-min 3x3 OT w/ shootout format? Or do they play real hockey in Bostontown?

RichH
I don’t pay close attention to little regional tournaments like this. Was this also a 5-min 3x3 OT w/ shootout format? Or do they play real hockey in Bostontown?

20-minute OT (Harvard scored at 19:59)

Give My Regards

RichH
I don’t pay close attention to little regional tournaments like this. Was this also a 5-min 3x3 OT w/ shootout format? Or do they play real hockey in Bostontown?

20-minute OT (Harvard scored at 19:59)

Thanks. CHN box has the GWG at 4:59 currently.

RichH
3x3 shinny benefits a team that has a Coronado line.

Mike said when they put Coronato and Farrell out to start our overtime he thought "Oh well."

maybe just play it like a 3-3 PK and dont chase them. at least then to score they need to take a shot from a decent way out.

FWIW in PWR, BU is letting us down.

Trotsky
FWIW in PWR, BU is letting us down.

That's fine. At the risk of getting too arcane, Harvard beating BU would've been very bad for us. So BU losing takes care of that.

On the other hand, one of Northeastern or Harvard is going to win the Beanpot. What a world.

Apparently Northeastern won three in a row recently. Mind blown.

Give My Regards

RichH
I don’t pay close attention to little regional tournaments like this. Was this also a 5-min 3x3 OT w/ shootout format? Or do they play real hockey in Bostontown?

20-minute OT (Harvard scored at 19:59)

No. It was 3x3 for five minutes. Apparently due to an NCAA requirement. Harvard scored at 4:58.5.

Chris '03

Give My Regards

RichH
I don’t pay close attention to little regional tournaments like this. Was this also a 5-min 3x3 OT w/ shootout format? Or do they play real hockey in Bostontown?

20-minute OT (Harvard scored at 19:59)

No. It was 3x3 for five minutes. Apparently due to an NCAA requirement. Harvard scored at 4:58.5.

Just watched it. 3x3 overtime remains incredibly dumb.

Scersk '97

Chris '03

Give My Regards

RichH
I don’t pay close attention to little regional tournaments like this. Was this also a 5-min 3x3 OT w/ shootout format? Or do they play real hockey in Bostontown?

20-minute OT (Harvard scored at 19:59)

No. It was 3x3 for five minutes. Apparently due to an NCAA requirement. Harvard scored at 4:58.5.

Just watched it. 3x3 overtime remains incredibly dumb.

Having any overtime at all is Reagan. Fun and inane and popular so, meh, whatevs.
3x3 is Dubya. Nobody asked for or needed this but creeping meatballism is entropic.
Shootout is Dump. A defilement and sheer malevolence.

The announcers talked about how in previous years, Beanpot games would be played out in sudden death overtime for as long as it took for someone to score, but the new NCAA rules mandate that regular season games can only have a 5-minute overtime.

dbilmes
The announcers talked about how in previous years, Beanpot games would be played out in sudden death overtime for as long as it took for someone to score, but the new NCAA rules mandate that regular season games can only have a 5-minute overtime.

Interesting question my mind conjures, then: if at the end of the NCAA-mandated 5 minute OT of a tied game, can an independent tournament playing for beans or whatever, decide to play 8x8, non-sudden death, 20 minutes, cumulative goals super-bonus OT to determine the finalists?

Trotsky

Scersk '97

Chris '03

Give My Regards

RichH
I don’t pay close attention to little regional tournaments like this. Was this also a 5-min 3x3 OT w/ shootout format? Or do they play real hockey in Bostontown?

20-minute OT (Harvard scored at 19:59)

No. It was 3x3 for five minutes. Apparently due to an NCAA requirement. Harvard scored at 4:58.5.

Just watched it. 3x3 overtime remains incredibly dumb.

Having any overtime at all is Reagan. Fun and inane and popular so, meh, whatevs.
3x3 is Dubya. Nobody asked for or needed this but creeping meatballism is entropic.
Shootout is Dump. A defilement and sheer malevolence.

I somehow like the shootout better than 3x3. At least the shootout doesn't pretend to be hockey.

dbilmes
The announcers talked about how in previous years, Beanpot games would be played out in sudden death overtime for as long as it took for someone to score, but the new NCAA rules mandate that regular season games can only have a 5-minute overtime.

• 3x3 is hockey. Just not what quote purists think of hockey as.
• In Boston, the Beanpot is seen as more than hockey; they probably think it deserves a 20-minute OT.
• Would have been nice to see a Harvard-BU final but that wasn't to happen.

CHN mentioned in an article that Cornell already has players in the transfer portal for the off-season, anyone know who?

looking at the portal

joe howe from last april
peter muzyka from a couple weeks ago

thats all i see

chimpfood
CHN mentioned in an article that Cornell already has players in the transfer portal for the off-season, anyone know who?

According to this, defenseman Peter Muzyka. He played 6 games last season as a junior, afaik, no games this season.

[gopherpucklive.com]

Brown wins 3-2 over RPI.

Harvard also hangs on in Hanover, so no real surprises tonight

All beans tonight. 2-2 final and a shiitout.

Hate to say it, but that was some really exciting 3x3 hockey in tonight's Beanpot final. Watching Sucks go 0-for in the shootout was icing on the cake.

As the 5-minute OT came to an end, one of the announcers said he wished they would just keep playing 3-on-3 overtime instead of going to a shootout. He noted that with all of the open ice in 3-on-3, it wouldn't take that much time for one of the teams to score a goal. It sounded like neither one of the broadcasters was a fan of deciding the tournament title in a shootout.

dbilmes
As the 5-minute OT came to an end, one of the announcers said he wished they would just keep playing 3-on-3 overtime instead of going to a shootout. He noted that with all of the open ice in 3-on-3, it wouldn't take that much time for one of the teams to score a goal. It sounded like neither one of the broadcasters was a fan of deciding the tournament title in a shootout.

The one opining his wish for two 3x3 overtimes was less a fan of hockey than scoring. It was a great game to watch and Harvard's shooting was on display for much of it.

Since they claimed this was the first shootout I wonder what the OT history is. Wikipedia has a 3 OT listed with Harvard over NE in the play in game of 1963 and another for BU over NE in 1965.

As recently as 2020 there were two 2 OT games including NE's won in the final. Is the NCAA mandating the OT rules in this tournament?

marty

dbilmes
As the 5-minute OT came to an end, one of the announcers said he wished they would just keep playing 3-on-3 overtime instead of going to a shootout. He noted that with all of the open ice in 3-on-3, it wouldn't take that much time for one of the teams to score a goal. It sounded like neither one of the broadcasters was a fan of deciding the tournament title in a shootout.

Is the NCAA mandating the OT rules in this tournament?

The announcers said last Monday that the NCAA isn't allowing teams to play more than a 5-minute overtime during the regular season.

dbilmes

marty

dbilmes
As the 5-minute OT came to an end, one of the announcers said he wished they would just keep playing 3-on-3 overtime instead of going to a shootout. He noted that with all of the open ice in 3-on-3, it wouldn't take that much time for one of the teams to score a goal. It sounded like neither one of the broadcasters was a fan of deciding the tournament title in a shootout.

Is the NCAA mandating the OT rules in this tournament?

The announcers said last Monday that the NCAA isn't allowing teams to play more than a 5-minute overtime during the regular season.

That's what I remembered hearing recently too. We bow to their authority.

marty

dbilmes

marty

dbilmes
As the 5-minute OT came to an end, one of the announcers said he wished they would just keep playing 3-on-3 overtime instead of going to a shootout. He noted that with all of the open ice in 3-on-3, it wouldn't take that much time for one of the teams to score a goal. It sounded like neither one of the broadcasters was a fan of deciding the tournament title in a shootout.

Is the NCAA mandating the OT rules in this tournament?

The announcers said last Monday that the NCAA isn't allowing teams to play more than a 5-minute overtime during the regular season.

That's what I remembered hearing recently too. We bow to their authority.

Also mentioned in the CHN game article. Harvard's slick, heralded draft choices failed in the shoot-out.

Al DeFlorio

marty

dbilmes

marty

dbilmes
As the 5-minute OT came to an end, one of the announcers said he wished they would just keep playing 3-on-3 overtime instead of going to a shootout. He noted that with all of the open ice in 3-on-3, it wouldn't take that much time for one of the teams to score a goal. It sounded like neither one of the broadcasters was a fan of deciding the tournament title in a shootout.

Is the NCAA mandating the OT rules in this tournament?

The announcers said last Monday that the NCAA isn't allowing teams to play more than a 5-minute overtime during the regular season.

That's what I remembered hearing recently too. We bow to their authority.

Also mentioned in the CHN game article. Harvard's slick, heralded draft choices failed in the shoot-out.

That’s a strange takeaway given both of Harvard’s goals were scored by 1st round draft pick Coronato.

Al DeFlorio

marty

dbilmes

marty

dbilmes
As the 5-minute OT came to an end, one of the announcers said he wished they would just keep playing 3-on-3 overtime instead of going to a shootout. He noted that with all of the open ice in 3-on-3, it wouldn't take that much time for one of the teams to score a goal. It sounded like neither one of the broadcasters was a fan of deciding the tournament title in a shootout.

Is the NCAA mandating the OT rules in this tournament?

The announcers said last Monday that the NCAA isn't allowing teams to play more than a 5-minute overtime during the regular season.

That's what I remembered hearing recently too. We bow to their authority.

Also mentioned in the CHN game article. Harvard's slick, heralded draft choices failed in the shoot-out.

To be fair Levi is the best goaltender in college hockey and will himself almost certainly be in the NHL in a few years.

BearLover

Al DeFlorio

marty

dbilmes

marty

dbilmes
As the 5-minute OT came to an end, one of the announcers said he wished they would just keep playing 3-on-3 overtime instead of going to a shootout. He noted that with all of the open ice in 3-on-3, it wouldn't take that much time for one of the teams to score a goal. It sounded like neither one of the broadcasters was a fan of deciding the tournament title in a shootout.

Is the NCAA mandating the OT rules in this tournament?

The announcers said last Monday that the NCAA isn't allowing teams to play more than a 5-minute overtime during the regular season.

That's what I remembered hearing recently too. We bow to their authority.

Also mentioned in the CHN game article. Harvard's slick, heralded draft choices failed in the shoot-out.

That’s a strange takeaway given both of Harvard’s goals were scored by 1st round draft pick Coronato.

That's a strange takeaway given I was writing about the shootout.

Al DeFlorio

BearLover

Al DeFlorio

marty

dbilmes

marty

dbilmes
As the 5-minute OT came to an end, one of the announcers said he wished they would just keep playing 3-on-3 overtime instead of going to a shootout. He noted that with all of the open ice in 3-on-3, it wouldn't take that much time for one of the teams to score a goal. It sounded like neither one of the broadcasters was a fan of deciding the tournament title in a shootout.

Is the NCAA mandating the OT rules in this tournament?

The announcers said last Monday that the NCAA isn't allowing teams to play more than a 5-minute overtime during the regular season.

That's what I remembered hearing recently too. We bow to their authority.

Also mentioned in the CHN game article. Harvard's slick, heralded draft choices failed in the shoot-out.

That’s a strange takeaway given both of Harvard’s goals were scored by 1st round draft pick Coronato.

That's a strange takeaway given I was writing about the shootout.

OK, just don’t really understand the point here. In the NHL, a shootout attempt succeeds about 30% of the time. I.e., every individual shootout attempt is a lot more likely to fail than succeed. Harvard took only three attempts, which is an inconsequential sample size, and all were against the best goalie in college hockey. In the third attempt, it looked like Laferriere had made a good move, but the puck hit Levi’s arm and deflected away from the net. So I don’t really think last night’s shootout means much of anything.

Regarding Levi, he’s considered the best college goalie, but he’s under 6 feet tall. At the moment, there are few or zero NHL goalies under 6’ receiving regular playing time. It will be interesting to see if Levi makes it in spite of his smaller size.

scoop85

Al DeFlorio

marty

dbilmes

marty

dbilmes
As the 5-minute OT came to an end, one of the announcers said he wished they would just keep playing 3-on-3 overtime instead of going to a shootout. He noted that with all of the open ice in 3-on-3, it wouldn't take that much time for one of the teams to score a goal. It sounded like neither one of the broadcasters was a fan of deciding the tournament title in a shootout.

Is the NCAA mandating the OT rules in this tournament?

The announcers said last Monday that the NCAA isn't allowing teams to play more than a 5-minute overtime during the regular season.

That's what I remembered hearing recently too. We bow to their authority.

Also mentioned in the CHN game article. Harvard's slick, heralded draft choices failed in the shoot-out.

To be fair Levi is the best goaltender in college hockey and will himself almost certainly be in the NHL in a few years.

To be fair!
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With Colgate’s win over SLU, we will end up in either 2nd or 3rd, since we win the tiebreaker with Colgate.

Check out shots on goal in Schenectady.
13-0 after 1.

SLU couldn't count...twice in the first period!

A UConn loss here would be really bad as we might lose our quality win bonus.

chimpfood
A UConn loss here would be really bad as we might lose our quality win bonus.

It looks like the quality win bonus is a sliding scale based on the team's rank. So there isn't a cliff that you fall off of if a team goes from the bottom of the quality win bracket to out of it.

if uconn loses and you adjust our PWR in real time we lose about .04 pts.. It may move more later after other games. Winning tonight is probably bigger deal for us because Uconn in theory could also steal a bid.. really want BU to run the table in HE..

Dafatone

chimpfood
A UConn loss here would be really bad as we might lose our quality win bonus.

It looks like the quality win bonus is a sliding scale based on the team's rank. So there isn't a cliff that you fall off of if a team goes from the bottom of the quality win bracket to out of it.

Oh, I thought it went from 0.0025 points if they were in 20th to none if they fell out of the top 20. Not such a huge game in that case.

chimpfood

Dafatone

chimpfood
A UConn loss here would be really bad as we might lose our quality win bonus.

It looks like the quality win bonus is a sliding scale based on the team's rank. So there isn't a cliff that you fall off of if a team goes from the bottom of the quality win bracket to out of it.

Oh, I thought it went from 0.0025 points if they were in 20th to none if they fell out of the top 20. Not such a huge game in that case.

It does, but it's also .05 if they were in 1st. So the difference between 19th and 20th is equal to the difference between 20th and 21st.

Still better for us if Uconn wins, but no cliff.

Chippiness at the end of the game at Harvard but the home team leading 6-1.

Q advances as expected.

SLU making it interesting as they're now down 3-2. SLU color guy sounds drunk

And now I have to admit that the Saints announcers are getting me a bit misty. What else do they have in Canton? They’re obviously crushed, the team’s crushed, but there’s always next year.

I assume after this weekend’s games are all complete, someone smarter than I am could figure out what needs to happen for us to get in IF we were to lose to Harvard?

NE lost
Msu lost
COnn lost
Omaha lost

Looks like if Minn St loses to North mich they would fall behind us as well and keep that A 2 Bid League

Still want BU to run the table and BC to win tonight to knock Merrimack out and keep that 1 bid league

CU2007
I assume after this weekend’s games are all complete, someone smarter than I am could figure out what needs to happen for us to get in IF we were to lose to Harvard?

We are currently 12th in the pairwise. Minnesota State is 13th. They're on to the CCHA finals. They'll only pass us if they win and we lose next round, in which case they get an autobid anyway. Alaska is 14th. They're done playing for the season, and we have enough of an RPI lead that we should remain ahead of them if we lose next round.

15th is Merrimack. They're in OT against BC right now, but I think they fall into the same "gotta win their tourney to pass us" territory that Minnesota State does, though maybe not. Let's go BC.

16th is Michigan State, they're losing to Minnesota. Same deal, they'd have to win two at which point they are in anyway.

Where I'm going with this is that we are likely finishing 12th, with some possible autobids finishing ahead of us to push us backwards which is a wash. If we lose next round, it all comes down to how many teams outside the top 16 get autobids. Atlantic Hockey is a given. CCHA hurts us cause it's either Northern Michigan stealing a spot or Minnesota State likely passing us and stealing a spot. So we're rooting for favorites everywhere else.

Go Denver. EDIT: Or Saint Cloud State. Root for BU (if we can stomach it). Root for Colgate to not win the ECAC. Root for Minnesota to beat MSU or, if they lose, Michigan to beat MSU. I think if two of those four things happen, we are in good shape.

Or we could just win a game or two next weekend.

Beat Harvard and fuck the Homecoming Queen. Or King. No judgments.

HE could steal a bid
ECAC could steal a bid
Atlantic will steal a bid
CCHA will get 2
NCHA could steal a bid

I dont think we can fall below like 13/14 but that still might not be safe Best to stay at 12.. and thats still on the edge.

root for denver and st cloud
root for BU
Root for Quin if we have too

upprdeck
HE could steal a bid
ECAC could steal a bid
Atlantic will steal a bid
CCHA will get 2
NCHA could steal a bid

I dont think we can fall below like 13/14 but that still might not be safe Best to stay at 12.. and thats still on the edge.

root for denver and st cloud
root for BU
Root for Quin if we have too

If NMU wins over MTU, maybe CCHA gets 3?

According to chn we have a 100% chance of a bid.

Dafatone

CU2007
I assume after this weekend’s games are all complete, someone smarter than I am could figure out what needs to happen for us to get in IF we were to lose to Harvard?

We are currently 12th in the pairwise. Minnesota State is 13th. They're on to the CCHA finals. They'll only pass us if they win and we lose next round, in which case they get an autobid anyway. Alaska is 14th. They're done playing for the season, and we have enough of an RPI lead that we should remain ahead of them if we lose next round.

15th is Merrimack. They're in OT against BC right now, but I think they fall into the same "gotta win their tourney to pass us" territory that Minnesota State does, though maybe not. Let's go BC.

16th is Michigan State, they're losing to Minnesota. Same deal, they'd have to win two at which point they are in anyway.

Where I'm going with this is that we are likely finishing 12th, with some possible autobids finishing ahead of us to push us backwards which is a wash. If we lose next round, it all comes down to how many teams outside the top 16 get autobids. Atlantic Hockey is a given. CCHA hurts us cause it's either Northern Michigan stealing a spot or Minnesota State likely passing us and stealing a spot. So we're rooting for favorites everywhere else.

Go Denver. EDIT: Or Saint Cloud State. Root for BU (if we can stomach it). Root for Colgate to not win the ECAC. Root for Minnesota to beat MSU or, if they lose, Michigan to beat MSU. I think if two of those four things happen, we are in good shape.

Or we could just win a game or two next weekend.

MSU lost, so there will be no autobid outside the top 12 from the Big 10. Seems like at this point, for Cornell to miss, all the following would need to occur:
(1) Cornell loses to Harvard
(2) Colgate wins the ECAC
(3) BU does not win Hockey East*
(4) Denver/SCSU does not win the NCHC

*maybe this could also be satisfied by Merrimack winning the semis and then losing to BU in the finals, i.e. they pass us for an at-large bid. So we want Merrimack to lose next round to be sure.

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I assume after this weekend’s games are all complete, someone smarter than I am could figure out what needs to happen for us to get in IF we were to lose to Harvard?

We are currently 12th in the pairwise. Minnesota State is 13th. They're on to the CCHA finals. They'll only pass us if they win and we lose next round, in which case they get an autobid anyway. Alaska is 14th. They're done playing for the season, and we have enough of an RPI lead that we should remain ahead of them if we lose next round.

15th is Merrimack. They're in OT against BC right now, but I think they fall into the same "gotta win their tourney to pass us" territory that Minnesota State does, though maybe not. Let's go BC.

16th is Michigan State, they're losing to Minnesota. Same deal, they'd have to win two at which point they are in anyway.

Where I'm going with this is that we are likely finishing 12th, with some possible autobids finishing ahead of us to push us backwards which is a wash. If we lose next round, it all comes down to how many teams outside the top 16 get autobids. Atlantic Hockey is a given. CCHA hurts us cause it's either Northern Michigan stealing a spot or Minnesota State likely passing us and stealing a spot. So we're rooting for favorites everywhere else.

Go Denver. EDIT: Or Saint Cloud State. Root for BU (if we can stomach it). Root for Colgate to not win the ECAC. Root for Minnesota to beat MSU or, if they lose, Michigan to beat MSU. I think if two of those four things happen, we are in good shape.

Or we could just win a game or two next weekend.

MSU lost, so there will be no autobid outside the top 12 from the Big 10. Seems like at this point, for Cornell to miss, all the following would need to occur:
(1) Cornell loses to Harvard
(2) Colgate wins the ECAC
(3) BU does not win Hockey East*
(4) Denver/SCSU does not win the NCHC

*maybe this could also be satisfied by Merrimack winning the semis and then losing to BU in the finals, i.e. they pass us for an at-large bid. So we want Merrimack to lose next round to be sure.

I don't think Merrimack would pass us in that scenario. But I'm not certain. If they would, then it's possible that UMass Lowell could beat BU, then beat Merrimack in the finals and maybe Hockey East gets three bids. But I don't think so.

Otherwise, yeah, you summed it up well.
Otherwise yeah, I think that's right.