2022-23 Men's Schedule

Here's what I have from the ECAC schedule. No exhibitions, OOC, Colgate or MSG are set yet.

Note game times are 7PM EST unless otherwise noted.

The NCAA places and possible dates are listed. Places are set, unless something comes up, dates are not yet set.

I did a copy and paste from this year's, so might have some mistakes in transition.

As in the past, if you have info about errors or additions, post it and I’ll update this.

Attached is the ECAC schedule, minus the traveling partners.

I'll do the Women's schedule later today.

Cornell 2022-23 Schedule

Fri Oct 14 Red/White??? 
Sat Oct 15 Red/White??? or (Ex)???
Fri Oct 21 (Ex)???
Sat Oct 22 (Ex)???
Fri Oct 28 @ UMD
Sat Oct 29 @ UMD
Fri Nov  4 @ Priceton
Sat Nov  5 @ Quinnipiac
Fri Nov 11 @ SLU
Sat Nov 12 @ Clarkson
Fri Nov 18 Yale
Sat Nov 19 Brown
Sat Nov 26 ??? @ MSG 8:00 
Fri Dec  2 Harvard
Sat Dec  3 Dartmouth

Fri Dec 30-Sun Jan 1 ???
Fri Jan  6 @ Union
Sat Jan  7 @ RPI
Fri Jan 13 OOC or Colgate???
Sat Jan 14 OOC or Colgate???
Fri Jan 20 Quinnipiac
Sat Jan 21 Princeton
Fri Jan 27 @ Dartmouth
Sat Jan 28 @ Harvard
Fri Feb  3 RPI
Sat Feb  4 Union
Fri Feb 10 OOC or Colgate???
Sat Feb 11 OOC or Colgate???
Fri Feb 17 Clarkson 
Sat Feb 18 SLU
Fri Feb 24 @ Brown
Sat Feb 25 @ Yale

Fri-Sun Mar 3-5 ECAC Prelims
Fri-Sun Mar 10-12 ECAC Quarters
Fri Mar 17 ECAC Semis @ Lake Placid
Sat Mar 18 ECAC Finals @ Lake Placid

Thu-Sun Mar 23-26 Regionals E @ Total Mortgage Arena, Bridgeport & MW @ PPL Center, Allentown 
Thu-Sun Mar 23-26 Regionals NE @ SNHU Arena, Manchester & W @ Scheels Arena, Fargo
Thu Apr  6 NCAA Semis @ Amelie Arena, Tampa
Sat Apr  8 NCAA Finals @ Amelie Arena, Tampa

Thanks, Jim.

Update #1, Change the heading from Cornell 2021-22 Schedule to Cornell 2022-23 Schedule

David Harding
Update #1, Change the heading from Cornell 2021-22 Schedule to Cornell 2022-23 Schedule

Good idea.

Thanks, as always, for putting this together, Jim. I've already entered the ECAC dates on my calendar.

As for typos, etc., the November 4 listing for Princeton needs an one more 'n.'

Thanks again!
Andy

North Dakota broadcasters said that UND will be at Lynah in "early January" next season, so I'm guessing that 13/14 weekend.

I posted on game thread they said first weekend, but are they wrong?

Article in today's (1/7/22) Grand Fork Herald states that "UND will play at Cornell next season at the same time of year--right after Christmas break." No exact dates were given.

Litigious bunch of fans chanting "Let's go sue".

Whoops. Should be in the ND game 2 thread - so sue me!

Roy 82
Litigious bunch of fans chanting "Let's go sue".

Whoops. Should be in the ND game 2 thread - so sue me!

+1

Do we care that Webster Bank Arena is now Total Mortgage Arena?

(I don't)

Greenberg '97
Do we care that Webster Bank Arena is now Total Mortgage Arena?

(I don't)

Agree, but I'll change it. However I don't understand the name. What's a non-total mortgage?

Jim Hyla

Greenberg '97
Do we care that Webster Bank Arena is now Total Mortgage Arena?

(I don't)

Agree, but I'll change it. However I don't understand the name. What's a non-total mortgage?

Does that mean the arena is underwater?

Jim Hyla

Greenberg '97
Do we care that Webster Bank Arena is now Total Mortgage Arena?

(I don't)

Agree, but I'll change it. However I don't understand the name. What's a non-total mortgage?

20% down, 80% mortgage.

Swampy

Jim Hyla

Greenberg '97
Do we care that Webster Bank Arena is now Total Mortgage Arena?

(I don't)

Agree, but I'll change it. However I don't understand the name. What's a non-total mortgage?

20% down, 80% mortgage.

So you mean that Total Mortgage will finance 100% of the property?

Wow, I sure hope they're around after the next recession, when a large number of their mortgages could go under water

Jim Hyla
Wow, I sure hope they're around after the next recession, when a large number of their mortgages could go under water

Look, I appreciate that they're based in Connecticut, but is it sending the right message to acquire naming rights to an arena that sits in a flood zone?

Greenberg '97

Jim Hyla
Wow, I sure hope they're around after the next recession, when a large number of their mortgages could go under water

Look, I appreciate that they're based in Connecticut, but is it sending the right message to acquire naming rights to an arena that sits in a flood zone?

Could be worse.

Current committed dates only:

Fri Nov  4 @ Princeton
Sat Nov  5 @ Quinnipiac
Fri Nov 11 @ SLU
Sat Nov 12 @ Clarkson
Fri Nov 18 Yale
Sat Nov 19 Brown
Sat Nov 26 vs TBD @ MSG
Fri Dec  2 Harvard
Sat Dec  3 Dartmouth
Fri Jan  6 @ Union
Sat Jan  7 @ RPI
Fri Jan 20 Quinnipiac
Sat Jan 21 Princeton
Fri Jan 27 @ Dartmouth
Sat Jan 28 @ Harvard
Fri Feb  3 RPI
Sat Feb  4 Union
Fri Feb 17 Clarkson 
Sat Feb 18 SLU
Fri Feb 24 @ Brown
Sat Feb 25 @ Yale

Ball-busting start but I like the rest of the season assuming we are still intact.

Cornell will open at UMD next year. That's a tough start, with UMD already having played 6 games and starting 4 weeks earlier.
[www.therinklive.com]

that seems aggressive

jkahn
Cornell will open at UMD next year. That's a tough start, with UMD already having played 6 games and starting 4 weeks earlier.
[www.therinklive.com]

I wonder how tough tickets are there. Only a brief six hour drive for me.

so you are saying you will put up the band for the weekend

Gulp.

upprdeck
that seems aggressive

You can pretty much pencil in that UMD will be a top-10 team in the PWR at the end of every season these days. No one will accuse us of having a soft nonconference schedule in '22-'23

Do you think the UND is still happening? Depending on whom we play at MSG this would be the strongest OOC we’ve had in a long time.

UND's schedule doesn't seem to have a series at Lynah for next season. I can't find the link, but they released their schedule earlier in the week

Iceberg
UND's schedule doesn't seem to have a series at Lynah for next season. I can't find the link, but they released their schedule earlier in the week

North Dakota's schedule shows Jan. 6-7 Nonconference TBD. So it may take some schedule juggling by one team or both to make the series happen in '22-'23. During the series at Grand Forks the announcers said that they would be at Cornell at the beginning of January, but apparently that's not necessarily set at this point.
[www.grandforksherald.com]

Wasn’t UND supposed to play at Lynah in fall 20-21?

underskill
Wasn’t UND supposed to play at Lynah in fall 20-21?

Yes, we were going to open the season playing them.

maybe the roads wont be plowed yet to get out of there

According to April 25th 2022 article in Grand Forks Herald, "UND was originally supposed to travel to Cornell the weekend of Jan. 6-7 2023, but the Big Red have a scheduling conflict with a league game. UND and Cornell will work to find a future date for that series in Ithaca, N.Y."

Per the UCONN athletics blog, we may be playing UCONN at MSG this year.
[www.theuconnblog.com]

jkahn
Per the UCONN athletics blog, we may be playing UCONN at MSG this year.
[www.theuconnblog.com]

Boring but makes sense.

Trotsky

jkahn
Per the UCONN athletics blog, we may be playing UCONN at MSG this year.
[www.theuconnblog.com]

Boring but makes sense.

UConn program is a program on the rise. Its new arena is scheduled to open in time for the upcoming season. There are a lot of UConn alums in NY, and of course it's not hard to get from Connecticut to New York City! The Huskies should bring in more fans than some of the other teams we've played at MSG.

dbilmes

Trotsky

jkahn
Per the UCONN athletics blog, we may be playing UCONN at MSG this year.
[www.theuconnblog.com]

Boring but makes sense.

UConn program is a program on the rise. Its new arena is scheduled to open in time for the upcoming season. There are a lot of UConn alums in NY, and of course it's not hard to get from Connecticut to New York City! The Huskies should bring in more fans than some of the other teams we've played at MSG.

They say "not sold in Storrs" for a reason.

UConn is awful (I mean spiritually and aesthetically, not hockeywise) but inevitable and they can help keep attendance up and MSG a thing, so it's worth it. I expect LIU will eventually join the rotation. You need schools where L.I. kids who didn't get into Cornell wind up (insert BU joke here).

dbilmes

Trotsky

jkahn
Per the UCONN athletics blog, we may be playing UCONN at MSG this year.
[www.theuconnblog.com]

Boring but makes sense.

UConn program is a program on the rise. Its new arena is scheduled to open in time for the upcoming season. There are a lot of UConn alums in NY, and of course it's not hard to get from Connecticut to New York City! The Huskies should bring in more fans than some of the other teams we've played at MSG.

Agreed. Big school and at least it’s out of conference. Could be a lot worse

CU2007

dbilmes

Trotsky

jkahn
Per the UCONN athletics blog, we may be playing UCONN at MSG this year.
[www.theuconnblog.com]

Boring but makes sense.

UConn program is a program on the rise. Its new arena is scheduled to open in time for the upcoming season. There are a lot of UConn alums in NY, and of course it's not hard to get from Connecticut to New York City! The Huskies should bring in more fans than some of the other teams we've played at MSG.

Agreed. Big school and at least it’s out of conference. Could be a lot worse

I’m on the boring side of the fence. You can’t tell me the rest of the ncaa hockey country isn’t aware of this game. We should be pulling in BC, ND, Michigan , Wisconsin, Denver, etc. every other year easily. I get BU every other year, but come on. We need a big OOC game here every time. I hate the rangers, but it’s MSG, the “most famous arena in the world”. We can do better. We should do better. Just my two cents.

1) dinner with family in koreatown

2) walk over to the arena among a crowd of red

3) watch a game against [don't care much]

tbh it's not the playoffs. i'd rather take the Q back to brooklyn in the afterglow of a W than see the stars of Western hockey. ymmv and i understand.

Number one priority should be filling the stadium. The whole point is the atmosphere. UConn is a good choice from that perspective. Michigan has the Ohio State football game that day, so their fans are distracted. Wisconsin probably doesn’t have that many alums in NYC? Maybe I’m wrong. Notre Dame would be a good pick, lots of alumni and I don’t think they play a football game that day as they are not in a conference. I suspect Denver doesn’t have enough local alumni. BC would be interesting, that could work I suppose.

I’m definitely fine with UConn, though. Hockey East program, big name, decent recent success, lots of alumni in the area.

That weekend Is often when Notre Dame plays USC in football.

UConn just signed its coach to a new contract and a big raise.

Weder
That weekend Is often when Notre Dame plays USC in football.

Yup, they're @USC/@Stanford alternating years. And a lot of other CFB programs save their rivalry games for that weekend too, so any school with a P5 CFB team might be distracted. So BU and other HE powers might work. With western schools, that eliminates all of ones large enough to have a major NYC presence (which is a wordy way of saying "Big 10 schools".

BearLover
Number one priority should be filling the stadium. The whole point is the atmosphere. UConn is a good choice from that perspective. Michigan has the Ohio State football game that day, so their fans are distracted. Wisconsin probably doesn’t have that many alums in NYC? Maybe I’m wrong. Notre Dame would be a good pick, lots of alumni and I don’t think they play a football game that day as they are not in a conference. I suspect Denver doesn’t have enough local alumni. BC would be interesting, that could work I suppose.

I’m definitely fine with UConn, though. Hockey East program, big name, decent recent success, lots of alumni in the area.

Disagree about Wisconsin - they have a huge NY presence (Packers bars are *hopping* during football season). I agree overall with your point about packing the house. I wouldn't mind a good opponent but I like taking my kid to a game where we win.

Disregard my comment about Notre Dame! Sounds like Hockey East is the way to go. BTW, UConn hasn’t been a weak program recently. They’ve been average to above average.

ugarte

BearLover
Number one priority should be filling the stadium. The whole point is the atmosphere. UConn is a good choice from that perspective. Michigan has the Ohio State football game that day, so their fans are distracted. Wisconsin probably doesn’t have that many alums in NYC? Maybe I’m wrong. Notre Dame would be a good pick, lots of alumni and I don’t think they play a football game that day as they are not in a conference. I suspect Denver doesn’t have enough local alumni. BC would be interesting, that could work I suppose.

I’m definitely fine with UConn, though. Hockey East program, big name, decent recent success, lots of alumni in the area.

Disagree about Wisconsin - they have a huge NY presence (Packers bars are *hopping* during football season). I agree overall with your point about packing the house. I wouldn't mind a good opponent but I like taking my kid to a game where we win.

If you want to see Cornell win, invite RPI. They have played each other once at the MSG, over the Holidays in 1969-70, a 9-0 Cornell win.

dbilmes
UConn just signed its coach to a new contract and a big raise.

They gave Cavanaugh millions of reasons to stay far away from considering the BC job. He spent 18 years as York’s assistant.

BearLover
Disregard my comment about Notre Dame! Sounds like Hockey East is the way to go. BTW, UConn hasn’t been a weak program recently. They’ve been average to above average.

2021-22 was their first winning season since joining HEA. They did make it to the conference final, but it was a particularly weak year for that league of castoffs.

BearLover
Number one priority should be filling the stadium..

Not sure if I posted this before. WSJ says the cost to rent MSG for an event is $350,000. $19.40 a seat if all 18,006 are filled.

billhoward

BearLover
Number one priority should be filling the stadium..

Not sure if I posted this before. WSJ says the cost to rent MSG for an event is $350,000. $19.40 a seat if all 18,006 are filled.

seems cheap!

Cornell/North Dakota series in Ithaca in 2024-25
[www.grandforksherald.com]

Is there any indication when a complete schedule for will be released? Seems a little late to me.

Cornell vs Sacred Heart tuesday November 22nd.

ClarksonHockey
Cornell vs Sacred Heart tuesday November 22nd.

In Ithaca I assume?

Trotsky

ClarksonHockey
Cornell vs Sacred Heart tuesday November 22nd.

In Ithaca I assume?

Yes.

Cornell & AIC on New Years Eve according to CHN

Meant to post at AIC. Leaves two games left to complete the schedule most likely the following weekend.
Any info from anyone at this point?

wake
Cornell & AIC on New Years Eve according to CHN

Unless they're doing it at MSG after Frank Zappa's ghost, that is not going to be well attended.

wake
Meant to post at AIC. Leaves two games left to complete the schedule most likely the following weekend.
Any info from anyone at this point?

The AIC site says it's a two-game series Dec. 29-30 at Lynah.
[aicyellowjackets.com]

Correction necessary. Just read a release from AIC athletic department. According to the article
AIC will play at Cornell for games on Dec 29th and 30th. Bad info from CHN. Come on Adam.
Now just one game to fill in.

The scheduling debacle regarding the North Dakota series obviously left us scrambling late to fill the schedule. Over a year ago, North Dakota was scheduled to be at Lynah this coming Jan. 6 and 7 but somehow the ECAC either wasn't informed (or didn't care?) and scheduled conference games for us the same weekend, causing us to have to push back North Dakota another two years. Not sure where things slipped through the cracks, but filling the schedule with games vs. SHU and AIC won't help our RPI much if we win them, since Opponent's opponents win % is worth twice as much as Opponent's win %.

But are the NoDak fans concerned?

French Rage
But are the NoDak fans concerned?

Probably, they wound up picking up two games vs. Lindenwood to fill the gap. On the other hand, after losing two to Cornell last year, they may feel good about the change.

So it now appears that the Cornell vs AIC games are a home and home series. First game 12/29 in Ithaca and second in Springfield. Ma on New years Eve.
Curious as to the times of each game

jkahn

French Rage
But are the NoDak fans concerned?

Probably, they wound up picking up two games vs. Lindenwood to fill the gap. On the other hand, after losing two to Cornell last year, they may feel good about the change.

That's a federal correctional facility, if memory serves.
Actually, in St. Charles, Misssouri.

billhoward

jkahn

French Rage
But are the NoDak fans concerned?

Probably, they wound up picking up two games vs. Lindenwood to fill the gap. On the other hand, after losing two to Cornell last year, they may feel good about the change.

That's a federal correctional facility, if memory serves.
Actually, in St. Charles, Misssouri.

The ultimate penalty box.

Al DeFlorio

billhoward
[Lindenwood's] a federal correctional facility, if memory serves.
Actually, in St. Charles, Misssouri.

The ultimate penalty box.

Nicely played.

No real home games until November 18 (when many students travel home for Thanksgiving)? That would make the Harvard game on December 2 the first real taste of Lynah this year. Please no more limited COVID seating.

the way covid is going it does make you wonder what the school does this next season.. this variant is worse for spreading and the numbers are higher than last fall.

upprdeck
the way covid is going it does make you wonder what the school does this next season.. this variant is worse for spreading and the numbers are higher than last fall.

Covid sucks, but we need to live with it at this point, or else we are going to have no eating/drinking and limited attendance off and on for the next 100 years.

Schedule is out. MSG opponent is still listed as TBD. Also, a rare Thursday night exhibition game.

wake
So it now appears that the Cornell vs AIC games are a home and home series. First game 12/29 in Ithaca and second in Springfield. Ma on New years Eve.
Curious as to the times of each game

Turns out they're both at Lynah so I would expect a trip to Springfield in a future season

Iceberg

wake
So it now appears that the Cornell vs AIC games are a home and home series. First game 12/29 in Ithaca and second in Springfield. Ma on New years Eve.
Curious as to the times of each game

Turns out they're both at Lynah so I would expect a trip to Springfield in a future season

Schafer doesn’t have the strongest record on reciprocal arrangements with AHA schools so I wouldn’t go as far as to expect a trip to Springfield.

SHU is opening a new building next January with BC and Harvard coming in. Will be interesting to see who else they can draw to probably the closest D1 arena to NYC.

BearLover

upprdeck
the way covid is going it does make you wonder what the school does this next season.. this variant is worse for spreading and the numbers are higher than last fall.

Covid sucks, but we need to live with it at this point, or else we are going to have no eating/drinking and limited attendance off and on for the next 100 years.

That's not how medicine works.

Chris '03

Iceberg

wake
So it now appears that the Cornell vs AIC games are a home and home series. First game 12/29 in Ithaca and second in Springfield. Ma on New years Eve.
Curious as to the times of each game

Turns out they're both at Lynah so I would expect a trip to Springfield in a future season

Schafer doesn’t have the strongest record on reciprocal arrangements with AHA schools so I wouldn’t go as far as to expect a trip to Springfield.

SHU is opening a new building next January with BC and Harvard coming in. Will be interesting to see who else they can draw to probably the closest D1 arena to NYC.

Don't forget about LIU, although they play at the Islanders' practice facility if you meant an on-campus rink.
Also, I was bored, so West Point is 50.1 miles from Central Park and Hobey Baker Rink is 54.9 miles, according to Google Maps. The Fairfield campus is 56.4 miles away.

Trotsky

BearLover

upprdeck
the way covid is going it does make you wonder what the school does this next season.. this variant is worse for spreading and the numbers are higher than last fall.

Covid sucks, but we need to live with it at this point, or else we are going to have no eating/drinking and limited attendance off and on for the next 100 years.

That's not how medicine works.

What?

not sure that a mask mandate really had much of an effect on attendance last year, the school chose to limit capacity but i doubt they would go that route again.

upprdeck
not sure that a mask mandate really had much of an effect on attendance last year, the school chose to limit capacity but i doubt they would go that route again.

I am alright with a mask mandate, but people need to be allowed to eat and drink during the game, which they weren’t able to do last year. Last years fans were screaming for 2.5 hours and dying of thirst—not even water was permitted. Also, with everyone packed in so tightly and shouting the whole game, I’m not sure masks accomplish much.

Limiting attendance at this point would be ridiculous.

they struggled to even find ushers last year. getting people to work concessions has been a problem for awhile as well

Given the rapidly changing situation that is COVID, I'll just say that we don't know what things will look like.

By the start of the season, things could be great, terrible, or anywhere in between.

Dafatone
Given the rapidly changing situation that is COVID, I'll just say that we don't know what things will look like.

By the start of the season, things could be great, terrible, or anywhere in between.

Cases numbers could be low, high, or in between, you mean? Sure, but that should have no bearing on attendance restrictions. Everyone who participates in society over the coming decades will get COVID at some point (likely multiple times). People can get vaccinated and take Paxlovid to significantly mitigate risk of a severe case. 99% of other events (sporting events, concerts, etc.) across the country are fully open with no restrictions whatsoever. Cornell restricting attendance is going to accomplish nothing beyond killing the atmosphere at Lynah and making it less fun to go to a game.

BearLover

Dafatone
Given the rapidly changing situation that is COVID, I'll just say that we don't know what things will look like.

By the start of the season, things could be great, terrible, or anywhere in between.

Cases numbers could be low, high, or in between, you mean? Sure, but that should have no bearing on attendance restrictions. Everyone who participates in society over the coming decades will get COVID at some point (likely multiple times). People can get vaccinated and take Paxlovid to significantly mitigate risk of a severe case. 99% of other events (sporting events, concerts, etc.) across the country are fully open with no restrictions whatsoever. Cornell restricting attendance is going to accomplish nothing beyond killing the atmosphere at Lynah and making it less fun to go to a game.

If there's some society-ending new variant, there won't be hockey. If COVID's over, there will be hockey and no restrictions.

Given that the reality will be between those extremes, let's see where we are at before declaring what should be done.

Dafatone

BearLover

Dafatone
Given the rapidly changing situation that is COVID, I'll just say that we don't know what things will look like.

By the start of the season, things could be great, terrible, or anywhere in between.

Cases numbers could be low, high, or in between, you mean? Sure, but that should have no bearing on attendance restrictions. Everyone who participates in society over the coming decades will get COVID at some point (likely multiple times). People can get vaccinated and take Paxlovid to significantly mitigate risk of a severe case. 99% of other events (sporting events, concerts, etc.) across the country are fully open with no restrictions whatsoever. Cornell restricting attendance is going to accomplish nothing beyond killing the atmosphere at Lynah and making it less fun to go to a game.

If there's some society-ending new variant, there won't be hockey. If COVID's over, there will be hockey and no restrictions.

Given that the reality will be between those extremes, let's see where we are at before declaring what should be done.

Well sure, if something happens at the tail end of the distribution, we/Cornell can recalibrate. At this point, though, the vast likelihood is that we continue down the path of oscillating case counts for a disease that is unavoidable but also unlikely to be severe.

Cornell needs to make a decision on what (if any) restrictions to put in place before season tickets go on sale. Unless once again the school isn’t going to sell season tickets, which would neuter Lynah for yet another season.

BearLover

Dafatone

BearLover

Dafatone
Given the rapidly changing situation that is COVID, I'll just say that we don't know what things will look like.

By the start of the season, things could be great, terrible, or anywhere in between.

Cases numbers could be low, high, or in between, you mean? Sure, but that should have no bearing on attendance restrictions. Everyone who participates in society over the coming decades will get COVID at some point (likely multiple times). People can get vaccinated and take Paxlovid to significantly mitigate risk of a severe case. 99% of other events (sporting events, concerts, etc.) across the country are fully open with no restrictions whatsoever. Cornell restricting attendance is going to accomplish nothing beyond killing the atmosphere at Lynah and making it less fun to go to a game.

If there's some society-ending new variant, there won't be hockey. If COVID's over, there will be hockey and no restrictions.

Given that the reality will be between those extremes, let's see where we are at before declaring what should be done.

Well sure, if something happens at the tail end of the distribution, we/Cornell can recalibrate. At this point, though, the vast likelihood is that we continue down the path of oscillating case counts for a disease that is unavoidable but also unlikely to be severe.

Cornell needs to make a decision on what (if any) restrictions to put in place before season tickets go on sale. Unless once again the school isn’t going to sell season tickets, which would neuter Lynah for yet another season.

The following e-mail was sent out by the Office of the Provost on Thursday morning:

All faculty, staff, and graduate and professional students are invited to participate in a town hall on Wednesday, July 27 from 12-1 p.m. Panelists will discuss the university’s COVID-19 guidance for the start of the fall semester. A separate town hall for undergraduate students and parents will be held in August.

Panelists

Mike Kotlikoff, Provost
Gary Koretzky, Vice Provost for Academic Integration
Lisa Nishii, Vice Provost for Undergraduate Education
Mary Opperman, Vice President and Chief Human Resources Officer

Moderator

Joel Malina, Vice President for University Relations

Town Hall log-in details
Wednesday, July 27, 12-1 p.m.
Zoom link: [cornell.zoom.us]
Webinar ID: 990 2102 4777
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Submit questions by noon on Monday, July 25 via this Qualtrics Survey (http://t01.list.cornell.edu/t/4028175/77200725/2160044/1046/).

As very few are walking around with a mask right now, there is a good chance they dont do much but monitor things.. Knowing that with the current numbers in the state that about 1-in-500 people is sick it does make you wonder what to do..

BearLover
Last years fans were screaming for 2.5 hours and dying of thirst—not even water was permitted.

What was the total number of fatalities? You can round to the nearest hundred if the exact number if just too high to get right.

French Rage

BearLover
Last years fans were screaming for 2.5 hours and dying of thirst—not even water was permitted.

What was the total number of fatalities? You can round to the nearest hundred if the exact number if just too high to get right.

“Dying of thirst” is a common English expression and is not meant to be taken literally.

BearLover

French Rage

BearLover
Last years fans were screaming for 2.5 hours and dying of thirst—not even water was permitted.

What was the total number of fatalities? You can round to the nearest hundred if the exact number if just too high to get right.

“Dying of thirst” is a common English expression and is not meant to be taken literally.

But surely going 2.5 hours without water caused some sort of permanent damage, right?

French Rage

BearLover

French Rage

BearLover
Last years fans were screaming for 2.5 hours and dying of thirst—not even water was permitted.

What was the total number of fatalities? You can round to the nearest hundred if the exact number if just too high to get right.

“Dying of thirst” is a common English expression and is not meant to be taken literally.

But surely going 2.5 hours without water caused some sort of permanent damage, right?

Let’s just shut down sporting events and other forms of entertainment entirely, then, since that doesn’t cause some sort of permanent physical damage.

The water fountains in the rink were perfectly functional when I was there in November. Ironic, though, since one would think it would be safer if people drank from their own bottles

Iceberg
The water fountains in the rink were perfectly functional when I was there in November. Ironic, though, since one would think it would be safer if people drank from their own bottles

Given that SARS-CoV-2 is very unlikely to be transmitted via fomites or water, there's really nothing to worry about. Drinking fountains are great, and the only reason they've been shut off is for sanitation theater. Just make sure to drink from the stream instead of putting your mouth over the tap like a four-year-old might.

BearLover

French Rage

BearLover

French Rage

BearLover
Last years fans were screaming for 2.5 hours and dying of thirst—not even water was permitted.

What was the total number of fatalities? You can round to the nearest hundred if the exact number if just too high to get right.

“Dying of thirst” is a common English expression and is not meant to be taken literally.

But surely going 2.5 hours without water caused some sort of permanent damage, right?

Let’s just shut down sporting events and other forms of entertainment entirely, then, since that doesn’t cause some sort of permanent physical damage.

Seems a little extreme when just having masks on also works.

French Rage

BearLover

French Rage

BearLover

French Rage

BearLover
Last years fans were screaming for 2.5 hours and dying of thirst—not even water was permitted.

What was the total number of fatalities? You can round to the nearest hundred if the exact number if just too high to get right.

“Dying of thirst” is a common English expression and is not meant to be taken literally.

But surely going 2.5 hours without water caused some sort of permanent damage, right?

Let’s just shut down sporting events and other forms of entertainment entirely, then, since that doesn’t cause some sort of permanent physical damage.

Seems a little extreme when just having masks on also works.

Works to accomplish what, exactly? What’s the goal here? To marginally reduce spread of a virus everyone is going to get anyway?

The fact people aren’t getting permanent damage from something is not sufficient justification for that thing. You have to show the benefits outweigh the costs. And in so doing, you have to define what the benefits and the costs are.

Not being able to grab food during intermission is a cost. Being hoarse the next day is a cost. Losing your gig as an employee at the concession stand is a cost. Lost revenue is a cost. None of these things result in “permanent damage,” hopefully, but they are costs.

And we must weigh those costs against the “benefit” that comes from people keeping their masks on an additional ~5 minutes per person, over the course of a game.

In my view, that benefit approaches zero. That’s partially because the reduced likelihood of Covid spreading over those ~5 minutes is very small, given the guy eating a pretzel is already going to be standing next to/talking to the lady next to him for two hours, which is well enough time for Covid to spread, from one to the other, mask or no mask. But more than that, the trajectory of the virus has made it so that everyone has already gotten it, or will get it, regardless of whether it happens at a Cornell hockey game. Everything else is open with no restrictions. If someone doesn’t get Covid from a game at Lynah, they’ll get it from traveling, or dinner with friends, or a frat party. Unless all of society acts in cohesion, nothing that Cornell does by itself can stop Covid from spreading. And, even if all of society were to act in cohesion, all this would do is delay the time it takes for people to contract the virus—it would not prevent them from contracting the virus long-term.

That’s the world we live in now. People need to accept it and stop trying to project the illusion that this virus can be controlled. We should thank modern medicine for giving us vaccines and therapeutics that significantly reduce severity, and go back to living our lives. Or, at least, Cornell should afford us the option to live our lives, should we so choose.

BearLover

French Rage

BearLover

French Rage

BearLover

French Rage

BearLover
Last years fans were screaming for 2.5 hours and dying of thirst—not even water was permitted.

What was the total number of fatalities? You can round to the nearest hundred if the exact number if just too high to get right.

“Dying of thirst” is a common English expression and is not meant to be taken literally.

But surely going 2.5 hours without water caused some sort of permanent damage, right?

Let’s just shut down sporting events and other forms of entertainment entirely, then, since that doesn’t cause some sort of permanent physical damage.

Seems a little extreme when just having masks on also works.

Works to accomplish what, exactly? What’s the goal here? To marginally reduce spread of a virus everyone is going to get anyway?

The fact people aren’t getting permanent damage from something is not sufficient justification for that thing. You have to show the benefits outweigh the costs. And in so doing, you have to define what the benefits and the costs are.

Not being able to grab food during intermission is a cost. Being hoarse the next day is a cost. Losing your gig as an employee at the concession stand is a cost. Lost revenue is a cost. None of these things result in “permanent damage,” hopefully, but they are costs.

And we must weigh those costs against the “benefit” that comes from people keeping their masks on an additional ~5 minutes per person, over the course of a game.

In my view, that benefit approaches zero. That’s partially because the reduced likelihood of Covid spreading over those ~5 minutes is very small, given the guy eating a pretzel is already going to be standing next to/talking to the lady next to him for two hours, which is well enough time for Covid to spread, from one to the other, mask or no mask. But more than that, the trajectory of the virus has made it so that everyone has already gotten it, or will get it, regardless of whether it happens at a Cornell hockey game. Everything else is open with no restrictions. If someone doesn’t get Covid from a game at Lynah, they’ll get it from traveling, or dinner with friends, or a frat party. Unless all of society acts in cohesion, nothing that Cornell does by itself can stop Covid from spreading. And, even if all of society were to act in cohesion, all this would do is delay the time it takes for people to contract the virus—it would not prevent them from contracting the virus long-term.

That’s the world we live in now. People need to accept it and stop trying to project the illusion that this virus can be controlled. We should thank modern medicine for giving us vaccines and therapeutics that significantly reduce severity, and go back to living our lives. Or, at least, Cornell should afford us the option to live our lives, should we so choose.

To add, with the current variants, if you're vaccinated and boosted the severity is generally not high. If you're not, then the risk is higher. But if you're not vaccinated and boosted by now, you clearly don't care about your risk. Of course there are exceptions, but that's the general situation.

So all of these current measures are trying to protect people who don't want to be protected anyway. They've made their choice. So I agree, let's move on.

Umm, hockey schedule updates anyone?

dag14
Umm, hockey schedule updates anyone?

Didn't notice January 14 @ BU on the list...that could be fun.

Tough start to the year though. 4 out of the first 6 games at UMD, QU and Clarkson has the potential to be ROUGH.

BearLover

French Rage

BearLover

French Rage

BearLover

French Rage

BearLover
Last years fans were screaming for 2.5 hours and dying of thirst—not even water was permitted.

What was the total number of fatalities? You can round to the nearest hundred if the exact number if just too high to get right.

“Dying of thirst” is a common English expression and is not meant to be taken literally.

But surely going 2.5 hours without water caused some sort of permanent damage, right?

Let’s just shut down sporting events and other forms of entertainment entirely, then, since that doesn’t cause some sort of permanent physical damage.

Seems a little extreme when just having masks on also works.

Works to accomplish what, exactly? What’s the goal here? To marginally reduce spread of a virus everyone is going to get anyway?

The fact people aren’t getting permanent damage from something is not sufficient justification for that thing. You have to show the benefits outweigh the costs. And in so doing, you have to define what the benefits and the costs are.

Not being able to grab food during intermission is a cost. Being hoarse the next day is a cost. Losing your gig as an employee at the concession stand is a cost. Lost revenue is a cost. None of these things result in “permanent damage,” hopefully, but they are costs.

And we must weigh those costs against the “benefit” that comes from people keeping their masks on an additional ~5 minutes per person, over the course of a game.

In my view, that benefit approaches zero. That’s partially because the reduced likelihood of Covid spreading over those ~5 minutes is very small, given the guy eating a pretzel is already going to be standing next to/talking to the lady next to him for two hours, which is well enough time for Covid to spread, from one to the other, mask or no mask. But more than that, the trajectory of the virus has made it so that everyone has already gotten it, or will get it, regardless of whether it happens at a Cornell hockey game. Everything else is open with no restrictions. If someone doesn’t get Covid from a game at Lynah, they’ll get it from traveling, or dinner with friends, or a frat party. Unless all of society acts in cohesion, nothing that Cornell does by itself can stop Covid from spreading. And, even if all of society were to act in cohesion, all this would do is delay the time it takes for people to contract the virus—it would not prevent them from contracting the virus long-term.

That’s the world we live in now. People need to accept it and stop trying to project the illusion that this virus can be controlled. We should thank modern medicine for giving us vaccines and therapeutics that significantly reduce severity, and go back to living our lives. Or, at least, Cornell should afford us the option to live our lives, should we so choose.

Bang. Louder for the people in the back.

Yes, we need to consider a lot of important things when these decisions are made. As you point out, the economic impact to vendors and others at the game whose livelihood depends on the purchase of food or drink is something we should very much keep in mind as they are heavily impacted. And the presence and effectiveness of masks, and what marginal impact they have on a campus where there is already plenty of social interaction outside of a hockey game, is also worthy of consideration.

Far far far down on the list is you have to go a whopping 2.5 hours without food or drink.

dag14
Umm, hockey schedule updates anyone?

Looks like it's officially released.

[cornellbigred.com]

still no opponent for MSG? weird.

ugarte
still no opponent for MSG? weird.

It’s the Red/White scrimmage.

We’ll still buy tickets.