Polls 2019-20

PWR 2 / 7 / 13 / 19 is a good field.

Rankings roundup: How the top 20 teams fared, Dec. 27-29]

Do we move up to #2?

No. 1 North Dakota (14-1-2)
12/28/2019 – No. 1 North Dakota 3 at U.S. Under-18 Team 1 (exhibition)

No. 2 Minnesota State (16-3-1)
12/28/2019 – St. Cloud State 7 vs No. 2 Minnesota State 2, 
  Mariucci Classic (Minneapolis, Minn.)
12/29/2019 – RV Bemidji State 0 vs No. 2 Minnesota State 2,
  Mariucci Classic third place (Minneapolis, Minn.)

No. 3 Cornell (10-1-0)
Did not play.

No. 4 Clarkson (12-3-2)
Did not play.

No. 5 Boston College (11-4-0)
Did not play.

No. 6 Denver (11-4-3)
Did not play.

No. 6 Ohio State (12-4-2)
12/27/2019 – Colgate 2 at No. 6 Ohio State 3
12/28/2019 – Colgate 0 at No. 6 Ohio State 3

No. 8 Penn State (13-6-0)
Did not play.

No. 9 Massachusetts (13-4-1)
12/29/2019 – No. 9 Massachusetts 5 at Rensselaer 3

No. 10 Minnesota Duluth (10-6-1)
12/29/2019 – No. 10 Minnesota Duluth 4 at Merrimack 1

No. 11 Bowling Green (12-6-1)
Did not play.

No. 12 Northeastern (11-5-2)
Did not play.

No. 13 Providence (10-5-4)
12/28/2019 – No. 13 Providence 2 vs Lake Superior State 1 (OT),
  Catamount Cup (Burlington, Vt.)
12/29/2019 Union 1 vs No. 13 Providence 1 (OT), 
  Catamount Cup (Burlington, Vt.)

No. 14 UMass Lowell (10-4-4)
12/29/2019 – CCHL All Stars 1 at No. 14 UMass Lowell 3 (exhibition)

No. 15 Notre Dame (9-7-2)
Did not play.

No. 16 Arizona State (10-7-3)
12/21/2019 – No. 16 Arizona State 5 at Omaha 4
12/22/2019 – No. 16 Arizona State 4 at Omaha 8
12/28/2019 – No. 16 Arizona State 1 vs No. 17 Harvard 4,
  FivePoint Arena (Irvine, Calif.)
12/29/2019 – No. 16 Arizona State 4 vs No. 17 Harvard 4 (OT) Harvard won via the 3 on 3 OT,
  FivePoint Arena (Irvine, Calif.)

No. 17 Harvard (7-4-1)
12/28/2019 – No. 16 Arizona State 1 vs No. 17 Harvard 4,
  FivePoint Arena (Irvine, Calif.)
12/29/2019 – No. 16 Arizona State 4 vs No. 17 Harvard 4 (OT) Harvard won via the 3 on 3 OT,
  FivePoint Arena (Irvine, Calif.)

No. 18 Michigan State (9-8-1)
Did not play.

No. 19 Western Michigan (7-7-2)
Did not play.

No. 20 Sacred Heart (12-7-1)
12/28/2019 – Bentley 0 at No. 20 Sacred Heart 4
12/29/2019 – Bentley 3 at No. 20 Sacred Heart 2

RV = Received Votes

I believe they normally skip New Year's week. Next poll should be on January 6.

KenP
I believe they normally skip New Year's week. Next poll should be on January 6.

Yes, they skip the last 2 weeks in December.

Trotsky
PWR 2 / 7 / 13 / 19 is a good field.

Since this post the Vegas field has moved to PWR 2 / 6 / 14 / 19.

Our Friday game is 2 vs 6 and will be the highest PWR opponent we play until the NC$$ unless Clarkson goes on a tear.

You were saying!

USCHO Division I Men's Poll - December 30, 2019
Rnk	Team	     (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	North Dakota	(44)	14-1-2	992	1
2	Cornell	        (4)	10-1-0	939	3
3	Minnesota State	(2)	16-3-1	897	2
4	Clarkson		12-3-2	806	4
5	Boston College		11-4-0	798	5
6	Ohio State		12-4-2	719	6
7	Denver		        11-4-3	715	6
8	Penn State		13-6-0	641	8
9	Massachusetts		13-4-1	623	9
10	Minnesota Duluth	10-6-1	548	10
11	Bowling Green		12-6-1	469	11
12	Northeastern		11-5-2	420	12
13	UMass Lowell		10-4-4	400	14
14	Providence		10-5-4	376	13
15	Notre Dame		 9-7-2	315	15
16	Harvard		         7-4-1	256	17
17	Arizona State		10-7-3	169	16
18	Michigan State		 9-8-1	157	18
19	Western Michigan	 7-7-2	86	19
20	Army		        13-5-1	55	NR
Others receiving votes: Sacred Heart 43, Michigan Tech 27, 
Northern Michigan 26, Alaska 7, Quinnipiac 6, RIT 3, 
Boston University 3, Dartmouth 2, Omaha 2  

CHN PWR

Rk 	Team 	       PCWs 	RPI    Rk 	QWB-† 	W-L-T 	Win % 	Wgtd Win % - ‡
1 	North Dakota 	59 	.6559 	1 	.0063 	14-1-2 	.8824 	.9000
2 	Cornell 	58 	.6544 	2 	.0087 	10-1-0 	.9091 	.9273
3 	Minnesota State 57 	.6081 	3 	.0082 	16-3-1 	.8250 	.8182
4 	Denver 	        56 	.5866 	5 	.0061 	11-4-3 	.6944 	.6966
5 	Boston College 	55 	.5893 	4 	.0037 	11-4-0 	.7333 	.7632
6 	Ohio State 	54 	.5712 	6 	.0044 	12-4-2 	.7222 	.7169
7 	Penn State 	53 	.5711 	7 	.0033 	13-6-0 	.6842 	.6739
8 	Massachusetts 	52 	.5608 	8 	.0029 	13-4-1 	.7500 	.7529
9 	Clarkson 	51 	.5603 	9 	.0003 	12-3-2 	.7647 	.7727
10 	Minnesota-Duluth50 	.5497 	10 	.0038 	10-6-1 	.6176 	.6118
11 	Bowling Green 	49 	.5476 	11 	.0044 	12-6-1 	.6579 	.6598
12 	Mass.-Lowell 	48 	.5466 	12 	.0047 	10-4-4 	.6667 	.6413
13 	Northeastern 	47 	.5456 	13 	.0019 	11-5-2 	.6667 	.6786
14 	Providence 	46 	.5435 	14 	.0069 	10-5-4 	.6316 	.6134
15 	Notre Dame 	45 	.5430 	15 	.0057 	9-7-2 	.5556 	.5476
16 	Michigan State 	44 	.5414 	16 	.0040 	9-8-1 	.5278 	.5287
17 	Arizona State 	43 	.5387 	17 	.0039 	10-7-3 	.5750 	.5885
18 	Harvard 	42 	.5379 	18 	.0009 	7-4-1 	.6250 	.6048
19 	Army 	        41 	.5315 	19 	.0000 	13-5-1 	.7105 	.7113
20 	Michigan Tech 	40 	.5278 	20 	.0020 	10-8-1 	.5526 	.5545
21 	Quinnipiac 	38 	.5230 	21 	.0023 	9-7-1 	.5588 	.5696
22 	Western Michigan38 	.5173 	22 	.0054 	7-7-2 	.5000 	.5000
23 	Dartmouth 	36 	.5165 	23 	.0034 	6-4-2 	.5833 	.5714

Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings

Rnk	Team	        PWR	W-L-T	W%	W% Rnk	RPI	RPI Rnk

1	Wisconsin	40	18-1-1	0.9250	1	0.7056*	1
2	Cornell	        39	11-1-1	0.8846	2	0.6859*	2
3	Minnesota	38	15-1-3	0.8684	4	0.6782*	3
4	Northeastern	37	14-2-0	0.8750	3	0.6514*	4
5	Princeton	36	11-4-0	0.7333	7	0.6133*	5
6	Ohio State	35	11-5-4	0.6500	10	0.6122	6
7	Clarkson	34	14-2-4	0.8000	5	0.6038*	7
8	Boston Univer   33	12-4-1	0.7353	6	0.5964*	8
9	Harvard	        31	7-4-0	0.6364	11	0.5745*	9
9	Boston College	31	11-6-2	0.6316	12	0.5577*	10
11	Minnesota Duluth30	8-8-2	0.5000	22	0.5529	11
12	Robert Morris	29	10-6-2	0.6111	13	0.5439*	12
13	Quinnipiac	28	9-7-3	0.5526	17	0.5388*	13

I'm guessing nothing else till next week.

Cool beanz! Thanks.

Trotsky

Trotsky
PWR 2 / 7 / 13 / 19 is a good field.

Since this post the Vegas field has moved to PWR 2 / 6 / 14 / 19.

Our Friday game is 2 vs 6 and will be the highest PWR opponent we play until the NC$$ unless Clarkson goes on a tear.

So will that make it the USCHO GOTW and will Coach Schafer get interviewed?

Fucked if I know but if I was their stringer I'd want a trip to Vegas.

Trotsky
Fucked if I know but if I was their stringer I'd want a trip to Vegas.

You think USCHO pays for stringer's trips? Cute.

Maine just beat Omaha 3-2, pushing Cornell to #1 in PWR

USCHO Division I Men's Poll - January 6, 2020
Rnk	Team	       (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	North Dakota	(46)	16-1-2	995	1
2	Cornell	        (2)	11-1-1	936	2
3	Minnesota State	(2)	18-3-1	902	3
4	Boston College		12-4-0	838	5
5	Denver		        13-4-3	792	7
6	Penn State		15-6-0	695	8
7	Clarkson		13-4-2	686	4
8	Ohio State		13-5-2	676	6
9	Minnesota Duluth	11-6-1	580	10
10	Massachusetts		13-6-1	504	9
11	Northeastern		12-5-2	488	12
12	Providence		11-5-5	479	14
13	UMass Lowell		11-4-4	468	13
14	Notre Dame		10-7-3	356	15
15	Arizona State		11-8-3	210	17
16	Bowling Green		12-9-1	179	11
17	Michigan Tech		13-9-1	172	NR
18	Harvard		         7-5-2	130	16
19	Northern Michigan	11-7-2	127	NR
20	Michigan State		10-9-1	107	18

Others receiving votes: Quinnipiac 93, Army 31, Sacred Heart 26, 
Western Michigan 25, Maine 3, Bemidji State 1, Boston University 1

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
January 6, 2020
	Team	               Points (First) Last Poll	Record	Weeks in Poll
	
1	University North Dakota 504	(30)	1	16-1-2	10
2	Cornell University 	465	(2)	2	11-1-1	14
3	Minnesota State Univer 	439	(2)	3	18-3-1	14
4	Boston College 	        399		4	12-4-0	11
5	University of Denver 	390		5	13-4-3	14
6	Penn State University 	317		8	15-6-0	14
7	Ohio State University 	290		7	13-5-2	14
8	Clarkson University 	223		6	13-4-2	14
9	Univer Minnesota Duluth 219		10	11-6-1	14
10	University Massachusetts198		9	13-6-1	14
11	U Massachusetts Lowell 	171		13	11-4-4	8
12	Providence College 	152		14	11-5-5	11
13	Northeastern University 146		12	12-5-2	14
14	University of Notre Dame 59		NR	10-7-3	11
15	Bowling Green State U 	 41		11	12-9-1	5

Others receiving votes: Arizona State University 28, Michigan Tech University 19, 
Harvard University 6, Michigan State University 4, 
Northern Michigan University 4, Quinnipiac University 4, Sacred Heart University 2.

NCAA Tournament Pairwise Comparison Ratings

Note: This chart is updated as each game result comes in. (No it's not.)
Rk 	Team 	       PCWs 	RPI 	Rk 	QWB-† 	W-L-T 	Win % 	Wgtd Win % - ‡
1 	North Dakota 	59 	.6540 	1 	.0063 	16-1-2 	.8947 	.9091
2 	Cornell 	58 	.6446 	2 	.0079 	11-1-1 	.8846 	.9000
3 	Minnesota State	57 	.6140 	3 	.0086 	18-3-1 	.8409 	.8318
4 	Denver 	        56 	.5953 	4 	.0082 	13-4-3 	.7250 	.7216
5 	Boston College 	55 	.5931 	5 	.0039 	12-4-0 	.7500 	.7750
6 	Penn State 	54 	.5745 	6 	.0028 	15-6-0 	.7143 	.7000
7 	Ohio State 	53 	.5637 	7 	.0031 	13-5-2 	.7000 	.6935
8 	Massachusetts 	52 	.5582 	8 	.0043 	13-6-1 	.6750 	.6882
9 	Northeastern 	51 	.5575 	9 	.0021 	13-5-2 	.7000 	.7128
10 	Mass.-Lowell 	50 	.5569 	10 	.0057 	11-4-4 	.6842 	.6633
11 	Minnesota-Duluth49 	.5559 	11 	.0037 	11-6-1 	.6389 	.6374
12 	Providence 	48 	.5509 	12 	.0074 	11-5-5 	.6429 	.6262
13 	Clarkson 	47 	.5467 	13 	.0014 	13-4-2 	.7368 	.7347
14 	Notre Dame 	46 	.5456 	14 	.0048 	10-7-3 	.5750 	.5684
15 	Michigan Tech 	45 	.5391 	15 	.0016 	13-9-1 	.5870 	.5950
16 	Arizona State 	44 	.5365 	16 	.0043 	11-8-3 	.5682 	.5708
17 	Michigan State 	43 	.5362 	17 	.0041 	10-9-1 	.5250 	.5258
18 	Quinnipiac 	41 	.5354 	18 	.0022 	11-7-1 	.6053 	.6092
19 	Northrn Michigan40 	.5296 	19 	.0020 	11-7-2 	.6000 	.5865
20 	Harvard 	40 	.5253 	20 	.0018 	7-5-2 	.5714 	.5704
21 	Army 	        39 	.5204 	21 	.0000 	13-7-1 	.6429 	.6449
22 	Maine 	        38 	.5138 	22 	.0015 	10-8-4 	.5455 	.5714
23 	Dartmouth 	36 	.5137 	23 	.0033 	7-5-2 	.5714 	.5758
24 	Boston Univer 	36 	.5125 	24 	.0048 	6-6-5 	.5000 	.4750

USCHO Division I Women's Poll - January 6, 2020
Rnk	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	Wisconsin	(13)	20-1-1	148	1
2	Minnesota	(2)	17-1-3	136	2
3	Northeastern		15-3-1	113	3
4	Cornell		        13-1-1	110	4
5	Ohio State		11-5-4	80	5
5	Clarkson		14-2-4	80	6
7	Princeton		13-4-0	61	7
8	Boston University	13-4-2	40	8
9	Harvard		        10-4-0	28	NR
10	Minnesota Duluth	 9-8-3	12	10

Others receiving votes: Boston College 8, Robert Morris 5, Providence 4

Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings

Rnk	Team	        PWR	W-L-T	W%	W% Rnk	RPI	RPI Rnk

1	Wisconsin	40	20-1-1	0.9318	1	0.7103*	1
2	Cornell	        39	13-1-1	0.9000	2	0.6909*	2
3	Minnesota	38	17-1-3	0.8810	3	0.6806*	3
4	Northeastern	37	15-3-1	0.8158	4	0.6239*	4
5	Princeton	36	13-4-0	0.7647	6	0.6178*	5
6	Ohio State	35	11-5-4	0.6500	9	0.6150	6
7	Clarkson	34	14-2-4	0.8000	5	0.6068*	7
8	Boston Univer	33	13-4-2	0.7368	7	0.5930*	8
9	Harvard	        32	10-4-0	0.7143	8	0.5898*	9
10	Minnesota Duluth31	 9-8-3	0.5250	20	0.5552	10
11	Robert Morris	30	11-7-2	0.6000	11	0.5492*	11
12	Boston College	29	11-7-2	0.6000	11	0.5431	12
13	Quinnipiac	28	11-7-3	0.5952	14	0.5373*	13
14	Bemidji State	27	12-9-1	0.5682	16	0.5366*	14
15	Colgate	        26	 9-9-4	0.5000	21	0.5341*	15
16	Mercyhurst	25	11-7-2	0.6000	11	0.5318	16

I figured I should document this:

CHN PWR

Rk 	Team 	       PCWs 	RPI 	Rk 	QWB-† 	W-L-T 	Win % 	Wgtd Win % - ‡
1 	Cornell 	59 	.6437 	1 	.0091 	12-1-1 	.8929 	.9085
2 	North Dakota 	58 	.6203 	2 	.0057 	16-2-2 	.8500 	.8511
3 	Minnesota State 57 	.6124 	3 	.0074 	19-3-1 	.8478 	.8407
4 	Denver 	        55 	.5952 	4 	.0079 	14-4-3 	.7381 	.7327
5 	Boston College 	54 	.5764 	5 	.0024 	12-5-0 	.7059 	.7209
6 	Penn State 	54 	.5723 	6 	.0026 	15-6-0 	.7143 	.7000
7 	Massachusetts 	53 	.5705 	7 	.0064 	14-6-1 	.6905 	.7071
8 	Ohio State 	52 	.5705 	8 	.0037 	14-5-2 	.7143 	.7121
9 	Minnesota-Duluth52 	.5614 	9 	.0037 	12-6-1 	.6579 	.6526
10 	Mass.-Lowell 	50 	.5605 	10 	.0053 	12-4-4 	.7000 	.6827
11 	Northeastern 	49 	.5602 	11 	.0022 	13-5-2 	.7000 	.7128
12 	Providence 	48 	.5547 	12 	.0068 	12-5-5 	.6591 	.6460
13 	Clarkson 	47 	.5491 	13 	.0004 	14-4-2 	.7500 	.7451
14 	Michigan State 	45 	.5403 	14 	.0038 	11-9-1 	.5476 	.5446
15 	Quinnipiac 	44 	.5376 	15 	.0022 	12-7-1 	.6250 	.6344
16 	Arizona State 	44 	.5370 	16 	.0048 	11-8-3 	.5682 	.5708
17 	Notre Dame 	43 	.5344 	17 	.0048 	10-8-3 	.5476 	.5347
18 	Michigan Tech 	42 	.5316 	19 	.0024 	13-10-1 	.5625 	.5669
19 	Nrthern Michigan41 	.5323 	18 	.0023 	12-7-2 	.6190 	.6019
20 	Harvard 	40 	.5263 	20 	.0022 	7-5-2 	.5714 	.5704
21 	Bemidji State 	38 	.5204 	21 	.0000 	12-7-3 	.6136 	.6250
22 	Bowling Green 	38 	.5192 	22 	.0033 	13-9-1 	.5870 	.5785
23 	Boston Univer 	37 	.5181 	23 	.0047 	7-6-5 	.5278 	.5000
24 	Maine 	        36 	.5177 	25 	.0017 	10-8-4 	.5455 	.5714
25 	Nebraska-Omaha 	35 	.5178 	24 	.0051 	9-9-3 	.5000 	.5047
26 	Army 	        34 	.5161 	26 	.0000 	13-7-2 	.6364 	.6339
27 	New Hampshire 	33 	.5145 	27 	.0034 	10-8-1 	.5526 	.5647
28 	Dartmouth 	31 	.5102 	28 	.0032 	7-5-3 	.5667 	.5775

USCHO PWR

Rnk	Team	       PWR	W-L-T	W%	W% Rnk	RPI	RPI Rnk
1	Cornell	        59	12-1-1	0.8929	1	0.6437*	1
2	North Dakota	58	16-2-2	0.8500	2	0.6203*	2
3	Minnesota State	57	19-3-1	0.8478	3	0.6124*	3
4	Denver	        55	14-4-3	0.7381	5	0.5952*	4
5	Boston College	54	12-5-0	0.7059	8	0.5764	5
5	Penn State	54	15-6-0	0.7143	6	0.5723	6
7	Massachusetts	52	14-6-1	0.6905	11	0.5705	7
7	Ohio State	52	14-5-2	0.7143	6	0.5705*	8
9	Minnesota Duluth51	12-6-1	0.6579	13	0.5614	9
10	UMass Lowell	50	12-4-4	0.7000	9	0.5605	10
11	Northeastern	49	13-5-2	0.7000	9	0.5602	11
12	Providence	48	12-5-5	0.6591	12	0.5547*	12
13	Clarkson	47	14-4-2	0.7500	4	0.5491*	13
14	Michigan State	45	11-9-1	0.5476	25	0.5403	14
15	Quinnipiac	44	12-7-1	0.6250	16	0.5376	15
15	Arizona State	44	11-8-3	0.5682	21	0.5370*	16
17	Notre Dame	43	10-8-3	0.5476	25	0.5344	17
18	Michigan Tech	42	13-10-1	0.5625	23	0.5316	19
19	Nrthern Michigan41	12-7-2	0.6190	17	0.5323	18
20	Harvard	        40	7-5-2	0.5714	20	0.5263	20
21	Bemidji State	38	12-7-3	0.6136	18	0.5204	21
21	Bowling Green	38	13-9-1	0.5870	19	0.5192	22
23	Boston Univer	37	7-6-5	0.5278	29	0.5181	23
24	Maine	        36	10-8-4	0.5455	28	0.5177	25
25	Omaha	        35	9-9-3	0.5000	30	0.5178	24
26	Army	        34	13-7-2	0.6364	15	0.5161	26
27	New Hampshire	32	10-8-1	0.5526	24	0.5145	27
28	Dartmouth	31	7-5-3	0.5667	22	0.5102	28

Finally it looks like they agree.

I appreciate that the top six teams have the same ranking as number of losses.

Well, this will be an interesting test case. Assuming that today’s ASU/Brown game doesn’t somehow cost us more than .0033 in RPI, we’ll be #1 in PWR when this week’s ballots are submitted. We sure didn’t pick up any style points, though (dropped to 3rd in KRACH) so I think we’ll learn something about how many voters (if any) just vote straight PWR.

i predict 2/3rd place in polls. fine with that.

The Rancor
i predict 2/3rd place in polls. fine with that.

I really only care that we’re #1 on April 12.

Swampy

The Rancor
i predict 2/3rd place in polls. fine with that.

I really only care that we’re #1 on April 12.

+1

Swampy

The Rancor
i predict 2/3rd place in polls. fine with that.

I really only care that we’re #1 on April 12.

if that's all you care about why are you reading this thread

ugarte

Swampy

The Rancor
i predict 2/3rd place in polls. fine with that.

I really only care that we’re #1 on April 12.

if that's all you care about why are you reading this thread

I read threads because the red “new” tag commands me to.

RichH

ugarte

Swampy

The Rancor
i predict 2/3rd place in polls. fine with that.

I really only care that we’re #1 on April 12.

if that's all you care about why are you reading this thread

I read threads because the red “new” tag commands me to.

Better be careful, it's the Thread Police.

Rankings roundup: How the top 20 teams fared, Jan. 9-12

No. 1 North Dakota (17-2-2)
01/10/2020 – Omaha 6 at No. 1 North Dakota 3
01/11/2020 – Omaha 1 at No. 1 North Dakota 4

No. 2 Cornell (12-1-2)
01/10/2020 – No. 2 Cornell 3 at Rensselaer 0
01/11/2020 – No. 2 Cornell 3 at Union 3 (OT)

No. 3 Minnesota State (20-3-1)
01/10/2020 – No. 3 Minnesota State 5 at Ferris State 0
01/11/2020 – No. 3 Minnesota State 5 at Ferris State 1

No. 4 Boston College (13-5-0)
01/10/2020 – No. 10 Massachusetts 3 at No. 4 Boston College 1
01/11/2020 – No. 4 Boston College 6 at No. 10 Massachusetts 3

No. 5 Denver (15-4-3)
01/10/2020 – St. Cloud State 3 at No. 5 Denver 6
01/11/2020 – St. Cloud State 3 at No. 5 Denver 5

No. 6 Penn State (16-6-0)
01/11/2020 – No. 6 Penn State 6 at Robert Morris 2

No. 7 Clarkson (15-4-2)
01/10/2020 – Princeton 1 at No. 7 Clarkson 2
01/11/2020 – RV Quinnipiac 2 at No. 7 Clarkson 5

No. 8 Ohio State (14-6-2)
01/10/2020 – No. 8 Ohio State 4 at Wisconsin 2
01/11/2020 – No. 8 Ohio State 2 at Wisconsin 5

No. 9 Minnesota Duluth (12-6-2)
01/10/2020 – RV Western Michigan 3 at No. 9 Minnesota Duluth 6
01/11/2020 – RV Western Michigan 3 at No. 9 Minnesota Duluth 3 (OT)

No. 10 Massachusetts (14-7-1)
01/10/2020 – No. 10 Massachusetts 3 at No. 4 Boston College 1
01/11/2020 – No. 4 Boston College 6 at No. 10 Massachusetts 3

No. 11 Northeastern (13-6-2)
01/06/2020 – Bentley 2 at No. 11 Northeastern 4
01/11/2020 – No. 11 Northeastern 4 at New Hampshire 5 (OT)

No. 12 Providence (13-5-5)
01/09/2020 – No. 12 Providence 5 at AIC 0
01/11/2020 – Connecticut 1 at No. 12 Providence 2

No. 13 UMass Lowell (12-5-4)
01/10/2020 No. 13 UMass Lowell 6 at RIT 4
01/11/2020 No. 13 UMass Lowell 2 at RIT 3

No. 14 Notre Dame (10-9-3)
01/10/2020 – Michigan 3 at No. 14 Notre Dame 0
01/11/2020 – Michigan 3 at No. 14 Notre Dame 1

No. 15 Arizona State (13-8-3)
01/11/2020 – No. 15 Arizona State 3 at Brown 1
01/12/2020 – No. 15 Arizona State 4 at Brown 3 (OT)

No. 16 Bowling Green (13-9-2)
01/10/2020 – No. 16 Bowling Green 3 at No. 17 Michigan Tech 2
01/11/2020 – No. 16 Bowling Green 2 at No. 17 Michigan Tech 2 (OT)

No. 17 Michigan Tech (13-10-2)
01/10/2020 – No. 16 Bowling Green 3 at No. 17 Michigan Tech 2
01/11/2020 – No. 16 Bowling Green 2 at No. 17 Michigan Tech 2 (OT)

No. 18 Harvard (8-5-2)
01/11/2020 – Yale 0 vs No. 18 Harvard 7 (Rivalry On Ice, Madison Square Garden)

No. 19 Northern Michigan (13-7-2)
01/10/2020 – Alaska Anchorage 1 at No. 19 Northern Michigan 4
01/11/2020 – Alaska Anchorage 3 at No. 19 Northern Michigan 6

No. 20 Michigan State (11-10-1)
01/10/2020 – Minnesota 1 at No. 20 Michigan State 4
01/11/2020 – Minnesota 2 at No. 20 Michigan State 0

RV = Received Votes

Exactly tied for #1 in USCHO.

Trotsky
Exactly tied for #1 in USCHO.

With four more first-place votes.

RichH

Trotsky
Exactly tied for #1 in USCHO.

With four more first-place votes.

Which means somebody shivved us to third or lower.

Assuming 20 points for first place, we are 44 points short of perfect distributed among 29 ballots.

x + 2y = 44
x + y = 29

(29 - y) + 2y = 44
y = 15
x = 14

21 first place votes
14 second place votes
15 third place votes

Is one way to do it. Of course, somebody who hates us, the Ivies, the ECAC and/or the East might have sent us even lower.

My favorite:

21 first place
28 second place
1 seventeenth

More likely:

              1  2  3  4
Cornell      21-14-15- 0
N. Dakota    17-22-11- 0
Mankato      12-14-14-10

Find me another college hockey forum with algebra on it. I dare ya.

Give My Regards
Find me another college hockey forum with algebra on it. I dare ya.

I'm guessing the RPI thread at USCHO has included algebra at some point

scoop85

Give My Regards
Find me another college hockey forum with algebra on it. I dare ya.

I'm guessing the RPI thread at USCHO has included algebra at some point

MIT has calc. But they're only club.

Fun fact: 1962-64 ECAC standings.

Sorry I don't have anything up, but whenever I try and post I get "Phorum Database Error".

Hopefully one who has admin privileges will see this or their email and help.

Looks like the shivving on the USA Today poll was bit more sever.

Cornell 485 (20 first place votes)
NoDak 480 (8)

Human polls serve no meaningful purpose, but FWIW I think it's crazy to rank Cornell above NoDak.

BearLover
Human polls serve no meaningful purpose, but FWIW I think it's crazy to rank Cornell above NoDak.

Why am I not surprised?

BearLover
Human polls serve no meaningful purpose, but FWIW I think it's crazy to rank Cornell above NoDak.

If it serves no meaningful purpose to you, you should at least realize that many of us enjoy seeing the team ranked first. I'm not sure why you want to bring rain on the parade. You are welcome to pick up a trumpet or a sousaphone and join our pep band.

marty

BearLover
Human polls serve no meaningful purpose, but FWIW I think it's crazy to rank Cornell above NoDak.

If it serves no meaningful purpose to you, you should at least realize that many of us enjoy seeing the team ranked first. I'm not sure why you want to bring rain on the parade. You are welcome to pick up a trumpet or a sousaphone and join our pep band.

We all seem to be playing in different keys, but that's why listening is fun.

(I'm away from home and don't seem to be able to edit from my phone - error message when trying to save an edit in desktop mode on Android. )

The top ten against the top ten:

2-0-0 Cornell
1-1-2 North Dakota
3-0-1 Minnesota St.
4-2-2 Denver
1-3-0 Boston College
1-1-0 Penn State
0-1-0 Clarkson
1-2-1 Minn Duluth
1-2-0 Ohio State
1-3-0 Massachusetts

Based on current USCHO rankings.

Looking forward to additional data.

So for some reason I can't post the Men's Krach.

USCHO Division I Men's Poll - January 13, 2020
Rnk	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	Cornell	        (21)	12-1-2	956	2
1	North Dakota	(17)	17-2-2	956	1
3	Minnesota State	(12)	20-3-1	928	3
4	Denver		        15-4-3	823	5
5	Boston College		13-5-0	788	4
6	Penn State		16-6-0	743	6
7	Clarkson		15-4-2	708	7
8	Minnesota Duluth	12-6-2	623	9
9	Ohio State		14-6-2	612	8
10	Massachusetts		14-7-1	564	10
11	Providence		13-5-5	517	12
12	Northeastern		13-6-2	448	11
13	UMass Lowell		12-5-4	382	13
14	Arizona State		13-8-3	338	15
15	Bowling Green		13-9-2	249	16
16	Harvard		         8-5-2	198	18
17	Northern Michigan	13-7-2	194	19
18	Notre Dame		10-9-3	145	14
19	Michigan Tech		13-10-2	121	17
20	Michigan State		11-10-1	58	20
20	Quinnipiac		12-8-1	58	NR

Others receiving votes: Sacred Heart 32, Army 32, 
Bemidji State 8, Michigan 5, Dartmouth 4, 
Western Michigan 4, Maine 3, New Hampshire 2, Minnesota 1

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
January 13, 2020
	Team	              Points (First) Last Poll	Record	Weeks in Poll

1	Cornell University 	485	(20)	2	12-1-2	15
2	University North Dakota 480	(8)	1	17-2-2	11
3	Minnesota State Univer 	453	(6)	3	20-3-1	15
4	University of Denver 	403		5	15-4-3	15
5	Boston College 	        375		4	13-5-0	12
6	Penn State University 	344		6	16-6-0	15
7	Clarkson University 	281		8	15-4-2	15
8	Univer Minnesota Duluth 255		9	12-6-2	15
9	Ohio State University 	244		7	14-6-2	15
10	University Massachusetts202		10	14-7-1	15
11	Providence College 	181		12	13-5-5	12
12	Northeastern University	134		13	13-6-2	15
13	U Massachusetts Lowell 	102		11	12-5-4	9
14	Arizona State University75		NR	13-8-3	3
15	Bowling Green State U 	35		15	13-9-2	6

Others receiving votes: Northern Michigan University 18, Harvard University 7, 
University of Notre Dame 3, Michigan State University 3.

NCAA Tournament Pairwise Comparison Ratings

Note: This chart is updated as each game result comes in. (No it isn't)
Rk 	Team 	       PCWs 	RPI 	Rk 	QWB-† 	W-L-T 	Win % 	Wgtd Win % - ‡
1 	Cornell 	59 	.6251 	1 	.0078 	12-1-2 	.8667 	.8882
2 	North Dakota 	58 	.6220 	2 	.0055 	17-2-2 	.8571 	.8571
3 	Minnesota State 57 	.6106 	3 	.0079 	20-3-1 	.8542 	.8487
4 	Denver 	        55 	.5975 	4 	.0078 	15-4-3 	.7500 	.7429
5 	Boston College 	54 	.5848 	5 	.0045 	13-5-0 	.7222 	.7391
6 	Penn State 	54 	.5752 	6 	.0017 	16-6-0 	.7273 	.7170
7 	Ohio State 	53 	.5624 	7 	.0028 	14-6-2 	.6818 	.6845
8 	Massachusetts 	52 	.5622 	8 	.0054 	14-7-1 	.6591 	.6667
9 	Minnesota-Duluth52 	.5592 	9 	.0034 	12-6-2 	.6500 	.6400
10 	Clarkson 	50 	.5564 	10 	.0009 	15-4-2 	.7619 	.7547
11 	Providence 	49 	.5547 	11 	.0064 	13-5-5 	.6739 	.6581
12 	Northeastern 	48 	.5514 	12 	.0022 	13-6-2 	.6667 	.6837
13 	Mass.-Lowell 	47 	.5508 	13 	.0056 	12-5-4 	.6667 	.6574
14 	Arizona State 	46 	.5411 	14 	.0038 	13-8-3 	.6042 	.6144
15 	North Michigan 	44 	.5319 	15 	.0019 	13-7-2 	.6364 	.6161
16 	Michigan State 	43 	.5302 	16 	.0037 	11-10-1 .5227 	.5140
17 	Quinnipiac 	43 	.5299 	17 	.0024 	12-8-1 	.5952 	.6082
18 	Harvard 	42 	.5298 	18 	.0024 	8-5-2 	.6000 	.5987
19 	Michigan Tech 	42 	.5290 	19 	.0026 	13-10-2 .5600 	.5606
20 	Notre Dame 	40 	.5270 	20 	.0042 	10-9-3 	.5227 	.5047
21 	Bemidji State 	38 	.5210 	21 	.0000 	12-7-3 	.6136 	.6250
22 	New Hampshire 	38 	.5208 	22 	.0044 	11-8-1 	.5750 	.5843
23 	Army 	        38 	.5205 	23 	.0000 	14-7-2 	.6522 	.6466
24 	Bowling Green 	36 	.5197 	24 	.0029 	13-9-2 	.5833 	.5794
25 	Dartmouth 	34 	.5178 	25 	.0030 	8-5-3 	.5938 	.6000  

USCHO Division I Women's Poll - January 13, 2020
Rnk	Team	     (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	Minnesota	(10)	19-1-3	144	2
2	Wisconsin	(5)	21-2-1	139	1
3	Northeastern		17-3-1	119	3
4	Cornell		        14-1-2	108	4
5	Ohio State		13-5-4	86	5
6	Princeton		14-4-1	70	7
7	Clarkson		15-3-4	69	5
8	Boston University	14-5-2	41	8
9	Harvard		        10-5-1	29	9
10	Minnesota Duluth	 9-8-3	13	10

Others receiving votes: Quinnipiac 3, Bemidji State 2, Boston College 2

Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings

Rnk	Team	        PWR	W-L-T	W%	W% Rnk	RPI	RPI Rnk

1	Wisconsin	40	21-2-1	0.8958	1	0.6781*	1
2	Minnesota	39	19-1-3	0.8913	2	0.6769*	2
3	Cornell         38	14-1-2	0.8824	3	0.6679*	3
4	Northeastern	37	17-3-1	0.8333	4	0.6335*	4
5	Ohio State	36	13-5-4	0.6818	8	0.6132	5
6	Princeton	35	14-4-1	0.7632	6	0.6096*	6
7	Clarkson	34	15-3-4	0.7727	5	0.5872*	7
8	Boston Univer	33	14-5-2	0.7143	7	0.5860	8
9	Harvard	        32	10-5-1	0.6562	9	0.5794*	9
10	Minnesota Duluth31	9-8-3	0.5250	22	0.5524	10
11	Quinnipiac	30	13-7-3	0.6304	10	0.5490*	11
12	Bemidji State	29	13-10-1	0.5625	16	0.5454*	12
13	Colgate	        28	11-9-4	0.5417	20	0.5368*	13

KRACH: National Collegiate Women

Rank	Team	       Rating	RRWP Win % Rk	W-L-T	Win % Win Ratio	SOS Rk	SOS

1	Wisconsin	5101.	.9387	1	21-2-1	0.8958	8.600	3	593.1
2	Minnesota	4978.	.9374	2	19-1-3	0.8913	8.200	2	607.1
3	Cornell	        3096.	.9083	3	14-1-2	0.8824	7.500	5	412.8
4	Ohio State	1673.	.8597	8	13-5-4	0.6818	2.143	1	780.8
5	Princeton	1166.	.8251	6	14-4-1	0.7632	3.222	6	362.0
6	Northeastern	 898.2	.7972	4	17-3-1	0.8333	5.000	16	179.6
7	Clarkson	 654.7	.7602	5	15-3-4	0.7727	3.400	13	192.6
8	Minnesota Duluth 580.8	.7454	22	9-8-3	0.5250	1.105	4	525.5
9	Harvard	         537.5	.7356	9	10-5-1	0.6562	1.909	9	281.5
10	Bemidji State	 455.6	.7140	16	13-10-1	0.5625	1.286	7	354.3
11	Boston University418.1	.7026	7	14-5-2	0.7143	2.500	18	167.2
12	Colgate	         305.1	.6592	20	11-9-4	0.5417	1.182	10	258.1
13	Quinnipiac	 291.9	.6530	10	13-7-3	0.6304	1.706	17	171.1
14	Robert Morris	 281.5	.6478	12	12-8-2	0.5909	1.444	12	194.9

I haven't seen much on here, but look at the women's record. Our teams are now a combined 26-2-4 with almost identical 1-loss records. Pretty amazing year so far for Cornell hockey. Let's hope we get to watch a lot of very late season hockey.

About time people start mentioning, and maybe even discussing, women’s hockey on here.

imafrshmn
About time people start mentioning, and maybe even discussing, women’s hockey on here.

Let me Google that for you…

Scersk '97

imafrshmn
About time people start mentioning, and maybe even discussing, women’s hockey on here.

Let me Google that for you…

You’re a funny guy. I’ve posted in that thread and you have not. Step up your game.

marty

BearLover
Human polls serve no meaningful purpose, but FWIW I think it's crazy to rank Cornell above NoDak.

If it serves no meaningful purpose to you, you should at least realize that many of us enjoy seeing the team ranked first. I'm not sure why you want to bring rain on the parade. You are welcome to pick up a trumpet or a sousaphone and join our pep band.

Just because I don't believe Cornell is the best team in the country doesn't mean I don't enjoy seeing them ranked as such.

I simply think it's nuts to think Cornell would beat NoDak more than 50 games out of 100.

Al DeFlorio

BearLover
Human polls serve no meaningful purpose, but FWIW I think it's crazy to rank Cornell above NoDak.

Why am I not surprised?

Dunno. Everything I've said about the team this year has been highly positive, so maybe you should be surprised.

I know we have a women's thread. I just noticed there hasn't been anything on there in quite some time and the team is doing amazing. I also thought the similarity of the 12-1-2 and 14-1-2 records is cool.

Against the USCHO top 20:

Cornell: 6-0-1
N. Dak: 2-1-2

ice
Against the USCHO top 20:

Cornell: 6-0-1
N. Dak: 2-1-2

NoDak has played the fourth-hardest schedule, Cornell the 22nd-hardest. Despite this, their goal differentials are approximately equal: NoDak has scored 70% of the goals in its games, Cornell has scored 71%. NoDak has the highest "CF Close" (shot attempts when game is within a goal) in the NCAAs, at 62%, despite the tougher competition. Cornell's is 11th, at 56%. NoDak also has the highest Overall CF, and is #1 in Fenwick (which counts unblocked shots only) in both Close and Overall. Moreover, NoDak has some of the most talented players in the country. Schafer has done a remarkable job with the players he has, but NoDak is the better team.

imafrshmn

Scersk '97

imafrshmn
About time people start mentioning, and maybe even discussing, women’s hockey on here.

Let me Google that for you…

You’re a funny guy. I’ve posted in that thread and you have not. Step up your game.

OK, let me not be funny.

If you want to mention or discuss women's hockey, go ahead! No one is stopping you. Start a thread; post a comment here or elsewhere. Step up your game.

Or you could just randomly moan about others discussing what they want to discuss…

cth95
I know we have a women's thread. I just noticed there hasn't been anything on there in quite some time and the team is doing amazing. I also thought the similarity of the 12-1-2 and 14-1-2 records is cool.

Oh, no problem whatsoever! This thread seems a perfectly appropriate place to discuss the women's polls as well.

(I don't normally read in threaded view.)

Here's a comment on the women: they got badly dinged in the USCHO poll for the tie this past weekend. Western bias!

Me looking over the latest polls and PWR: “Pretty much in lock step but interesting how Clarkson has been able to poll a few spots higher than its PWR for a while now I wonder- holy smokes, Bowling Green!”

That’s a big difference not usually seen if my recollection can be trusted.

I think it is fin to be somehow under the radar and the national #1. I do find it amusing that USCHO continues to ignore the existence of that fact.
TMQB: Cornell... played a game this week? Now, on to any other team!

12-1-2 1.46 0.939 Matthew Galajda Cornell
17-2-2 1.73 0.916 Adam Scheel North Dakota

Top 16 vs. Top 16 (KRACH)

6-1-1 Minnesota State
1-1-2 North Dakota
5-0-2 Cornell
4-3-3 Denver
2-4-0 Boston College
3-2-0 Ohio State
2-2-0 Penn State
0-2-0 Clarkson
1-3-0 Massachusetts
1-2-1 Minn-Duluth
2-1-1 Providence
2-3-1 Arizona State
3-7-0 Michigan State
2-3-1 Northern Michigan
4-3-0 Mass-Lowell
2-3-0 Northeastern

BearLover

ice
Against the USCHO top 20:

Cornell: 6-0-1
N. Dak: 2-1-2

NoDak has played the fourth-hardest schedule, Cornell the 22nd-hardest. Despite this, their goal differentials are approximately equal: NoDak has scored 70% of the goals in its games, Cornell has scored 71%. NoDak has the highest "CF Close" (shot attempts when game is within a goal) in the NCAAs, at 62%, despite the tougher competition. Cornell's is 11th, at 56%. NoDak also has the highest Overall CF, and is #1 in Fenwick (which counts unblocked shots only) in both Close and Overall. Moreover, NoDak has some of the most talented players in the country. Schafer has done a remarkable job with the players he has, but NoDak is the better team.

[www.inforum.com]

"sophomore starter Adam Scheel was lifted for Peter Thome after 20 minutes. Scheel, who was pulled one time all of last season, has been yanked twice in the last eight days."

He didn't play the second game against Miami. ND won 5-3.

Only Denver, Mankato, and Mich State have played more top 16 teams than Cornell. Only Clarkson has played fewer than NoDak.

ice
Top 16 vs. Top 16 (KRACH)

6-1-1 Minnesota State
1-1-2 North Dakota
5-0-2 Cornell
4-3-3 Denver
2-4-0 Boston College
3-2-0 Ohio State
2-2-0 Penn State
0-2-0 Clarkson
1-3-0 Massachusetts
1-2-1 Minn-Duluth
2-1-1 Providence
2-3-1 Arizona State
3-7-0 Michigan State
2-3-1 Northern Michigan
4-3-0 Mass-Lowell
2-3-0 Northeastern

This more than anything tells you that this team has a real chance to do it.

Al DeFlorio
Only Denver, Mankato, and Mich State have played more top 16 teams than Cornell. Only Clarkson has played fewer than NoDak.

Percentage of games played against top 16: Denver, 43%; Cornell, 41%; NoDak 17%.

CU2007

ice
Top 16 vs. Top 16 (KRACH)

6-1-1 Minnesota State
1-1-2 North Dakota
5-0-2 Cornell
4-3-3 Denver
2-4-0 Boston College
3-2-0 Ohio State
2-2-0 Penn State
0-2-0 Clarkson
1-3-0 Massachusetts
1-2-1 Minn-Duluth
2-1-1 Providence
2-3-1 Arizona State
3-7-0 Michigan State
2-3-1 Northern Michigan
4-3-0 Mass-Lowell
2-3-0 Northeastern

This more than anything tells you that this team has a real fking chance to do it.

Yeah. I don't want to get too excited, but that's what has always been missing.

as things stand right now we will play 14 games against teams in the top 20 pairwise. pretty solid

Trotsky

CU2007

ice
Top 16 vs. Top 16 (KRACH)

6-1-1 Minnesota State
1-1-2 North Dakota
5-0-2 Cornell
4-3-3 Denver
2-4-0 Boston College
3-2-0 Ohio State
2-2-0 Penn State
0-2-0 Clarkson
1-3-0 Massachusetts
1-2-1 Minn-Duluth
2-1-1 Providence
2-3-1 Arizona State
3-7-0 Michigan State
2-3-1 Northern Michigan
4-3-0 Mass-Lowell
2-3-0 Northeastern

This more than anything tells you that this team has a real fking chance to do it.

Yeah. I don't want to get too excited, but that's what has always been missing.

There are pretty significant KRACH "discontinuities" (there's probably a better word) between #2/#3, #5/#6, and (kind of) #32/#33, defined in a somewhat fuzzy manner by the likelihood that a higher rated team will beat the team ranked immediately below it. Another way of looking at it is that, according to KRACH, Denver has a less than 1 in 3 chance of beating Mankato, Ohio State has a less than 1 in 4 chance, and Maine has a less than 1 in 10 chance.

It seems that Mankato and North Dakota are in a little bit of a "league of their own" situation, perhaps slightly due to having significant results against each other, I would think. But they're definitely running a bit above the rest, although still in striking distance for us. Then there's another little group of Denver, BC, and us, and then a somewhat unmediated mass down to BU.

For whatever reason, I usually view a greater than 1 in 3 likelihood according to KRACH of one team beating another as pretty significant. So another way one might look at all of this is to consider which teams are "in the hunt" for the top 4. Right now, that's only BC, Ohio State, and Penn State. Clarkson is perilously close to being in that group.

To my mind, relatively few teams seem to be in striking distance of a national championship this season. I'm glad we're in that group so far.

Scersk '97

Trotsky

CU2007

ice
Top 16 vs. Top 16 (KRACH)

6-1-1 Minnesota State
1-1-2 North Dakota
5-0-2 Cornell
4-3-3 Denver
2-4-0 Boston College
3-2-0 Ohio State
2-2-0 Penn State
0-2-0 Clarkson
1-3-0 Massachusetts
1-2-1 Minn-Duluth
2-1-1 Providence
2-3-1 Arizona State
3-7-0 Michigan State
2-3-1 Northern Michigan
4-3-0 Mass-Lowell
2-3-0 Northeastern

This more than anything tells you that this team has a real fking chance to do it.

Yeah. I don't want to get too excited, but that's what has always been missing.

There are pretty significant KRACH "discontinuities" (there's probably a better word) between #2/#3, #5/#6, and (kind of) #32/#33, defined in a somewhat fuzzy manner by the likelihood that a higher rated team will beat the team ranked immediately below it. Another way of looking at it is that, according to KRACH, Denver has a less than 1 in 3 chance of beating Mankato, Ohio State has a less than 1 in 4 chance, and Maine has a less than 1 in 10 chance.

It seems that Mankato and North Dakota are in a little bit of a "league of their own" situation, perhaps slightly due to having significant results against each other, I would think. But they're definitely running a bit above the rest, although still in striking distance for us. Then there's another little group of Denver, BC, and us, and then a somewhat unmediated mass down to BU.

For whatever reason, I usually view a greater than 1 in 3 likelihood according to KRACH of one team beating another as pretty significant. So another way one might look at all of this is to consider which teams are "in the hunt" for the top 4. Right now, that's only BC, Ohio State, and Penn State. Clarkson is perilously close to being in that group.

To my mind, relatively few teams seem to be in striking distance of a national championship this season. I'm glad we're in that group so far.

Without whipping out actual win percentages, it seems like this year, all of college hockey is very top-heavy. The top three teams have a combined six losses between them. BC has five losses. Denver has four. Clarkson has five. I feel like at this point, BC's 15-5-0, Denver's 15-4-5, and Clarkson's 16-5-2 would all be contending for the best records in the country (maybe not Denver, that's a lot of ties). Instead, they're all well behind the top three.

The last two years, only two teams have finished with single-digit losses. This year, several teams are on track to either get there or come close. Granted, that's an odd cutoff, because a slew of teams have finished with exactly ten losses, but the point still stands.

playoffstatus.com gives the following odds right now:

.99 Bid (.28 #1 overall; .85 #1 regional seed)
.71 QF
.45 F4
.26 Finalist
.15 National Champion

I am in no way quoting this just to get under one guy's skin. That would be immature.

Dafatone
The last two years, only two teams have finished with single-digit losses. This year, several teams are on track to either get there or come close.

The average for the last 20 years is 3.4 teams with fewer than 10 losses.

By year:

2000 7 Niagara, SLU, Colgate, UNH, Quinnipiac, Wisconsin, North Dakota
2001 4 Michigan State, BC, North Dakota, St. Cloud
2002 4 Michigan State, Cornell, UNH, Denver, Minnesota
2003 4 Cornell, UNH, Colorado College, Minnesota
2004 3 BC, Maine, North Dakota
2005 5 Michigan, Cornell, BC, Colorado College, Denver
2006 3 Miami, Cornell, Minnesota
2007 2 Notre Dame, Clarkson
2008 2 Michigan, Miami
2009 3 Notre Dame, Yale, BU
2010 2 Miami, Cornell
2011 3 Yale, BC, North Dakota
2012 2 Union, Cornell
2013 2 Quinnipiac, Minnesota
2014 3 Minnesota, Union, BC
2015 3 Robert Morris, BU, Mankato
2016 8 Michigan, Quinnipiac, Yale, BC, Providence, North Dakota, St. Cloud, Michigan Tech
2017 4 Harvard, Cornell, Denver, Duluth
2018 2 Cornell,  St. Cloud
2019 2 AIC, St. Cloud

Right now 4 teams have 4 losses or fewer: Cornell (1), North Dakota (2), Denver (4), Mankato (3). 3 have exactly 5: Clarkson, Dartmouth, BC.

Trotsky

Dafatone
The last two years, only two teams have finished with single-digit losses. This year, several teams are on track to either get there or come close.

The average for the last 20 years is 3.4 teams with fewer than 10 losses.

By year:

2000 7 Niagara, SLU, Colgate, UNH, Quinnipiac, Wisconsin, North Dakota
2001 4 Michigan State, BC, North Dakota, St. Cloud
2002 4 Michigan State, Cornell, UNH, Denver, Minnesota
2003 4 Cornell, UNH, Colorado College, Minnesota
2004 3 BC, Maine, North Dakota
2005 5 Michigan, Cornell, BC, Colorado College, Denver
2006 3 Miami, Cornell, Minnesota
2007 2 Notre Dame, Clarkson
2008 2 Michigan, Miami
2009 3 Notre Dame, Yale, BU
2010 2 Miami, Cornell
2011 3 Yale, BC, North Dakota
2012 2 Union, Cornell
2013 2 Quinnipiac, Minnesota
2014 3 Minnesota, Union, BC
2015 3 Robert Morris, BU, Mankato
2016 8 Michigan, Quinnipiac, Yale, BC, Providence, North Dakota, St. Cloud, Michigan Tech
2017 4 Harvard, Cornell, Denver, Duluth
2018 2 Cornell,  St. Cloud
2019 2 AIC, St. Cloud

Right now 4 teams have 4 losses or fewer: Cornell (1), North Dakota (2), Denver (4), Mankato (3). 3 have exactly 5: Clarkson, Dartmouth, BC.

Can you put in bold if any won the NC?

French Rage

Trotsky

Dafatone
The last two years, only two teams have finished with single-digit losses. This year, several teams are on track to either get there or come close.

The average for the last 20 years is 3.4 teams with fewer than 10 losses.

By year:

2000 7 Niagara, SLU, Colgate, UNH, Quinnipiac, Wisconsin, North Dakota
2001 4 Michigan State, BC, North Dakota, St. Cloud
2002 4 Michigan State, Cornell, UNH, Denver, Minnesota
2003 4 Cornell, UNH, Colorado College, Minnesota
2004 3 BC, Maine, North Dakota
2005 5 Michigan, Cornell, BC, Colorado College, Denver
2006 3 Miami, Cornell, Minnesota
2007 2 Notre Dame, Clarkson
2008 2 Michigan, Miami
2009 3 Notre Dame, Yale, BU
2010 2 Miami, Cornell
2011 3 Yale, BC, North Dakota
2012 2 Union, Cornell
2013 2 Quinnipiac, Minnesota
2014 3 Minnesota, Union, BC
2015 3 Robert Morris, BU, Mankato
2016 8 Michigan, Quinnipiac, Yale, BC, Providence, North Dakota, St. Cloud, Michigan Tech
2017 4 Harvard, Cornell, Denver, Duluth
2018 2 Cornell,  St. Cloud
2019 2 AIC, St. Cloud

Right now 4 teams have 4 losses or fewer: Cornell (1), North Dakota (2), Denver (4), Mankato (3). 3 have exactly 5: Clarkson, Dartmouth, BC.

Can you put in bold if any won the NC?

Done

Huh, not as often as I would have thought.

I wonder if CHA folding made it less likely for a 1-seed to advance. Formerly, two 1-seeds played weaker conferences. Now only one does, and that conference has gotten a bit more competitive, too.

Just a thought.

Jeff Hopkins '82
I wonder if CHA folding made it less likely for a 1-seed to advance. Formerly, two 1-seeds played weaker conferences. Now only one does, and that conference has gotten a bit more competitive, too.

Just a thought.

Add to that that lower seeds can sometimes be the home team, giving them help, and that a single game in a sport like hockey makes upset much more likely.

ice
Top 16 vs. Top 16 (KRACH)

6-1-1 Minnesota State
1-1-2 North Dakota
5-0-2 Cornell
4-3-3 Denver
2-4-0 Boston College
3-2-0 Ohio State
2-2-0 Penn State
0-2-0 Clarkson
1-3-0 Massachusetts
1-2-1 Minn-Duluth
2-1-1 Providence
2-3-1 Arizona State
3-7-0 Michigan State
2-3-1 Northern Michigan
4-3-0 Mass-Lowell
2-3-0 Northeastern

FWIW, NMU came into Lynah Friday night with a five-game unbeaten streak stretching back to Dec. 14, when NMU beat then-#1 Minny State. The first weekend in 2020 NMU swept then-#11 Bowling Green @ Bowling Green. The next weekend it swept Anchorage at home. Not too shabby.

And Cornell's record of 1-0-1 compares rather well with Minny State's 1-1-0 against this common opponent.

Rankings roundup: How the top 20 teams fared, Jan. 17-18

No. 1 Cornell (13-1-3)
01/17/2020 – No. 17 Northern Michigan 2 at No. 1 Cornell 2 (OT)
01/18/2020 – No. 17 Northern Michigan 1 at No. 1 Cornell 3

No. 1 North Dakota (18-2-3)
01/17/2020 – No. 1 North Dakota 4 at Miami 4 (OT)
01/18/2020 – No. 1 North Dakota 5 at Miami 3

No. 3 Minnesota State (22-3-1)
01/17/2020 – No. 3 Minnesota State 6 at No. 15 Bowling Green 3
01/18/2020 – No. 3 Minnesota State 3 at No. 15 Bowling Green 2 (OT)

No. 4 Denver (15-4-5)
01/17/2020 – No. 4 Denver 1 at Omaha 1 (OT)
01/18/2020 – No. 4 Denver 2 at Omaha 2 (OT)

No. 5 Boston College (15-5-0)
01/17/2020 – No. 5 Boston College 3 at No. 13 UMass Lowell 2
01/18/2020 – Boston University 3 at No. 5 Boston College 4

No. 6 Penn State (16-7-1)
01/17/2020 – RV Michigan 6 at No. 6 Penn State 0
01/18/2020 – RV Michigan 4 at No. 6 Penn State 4 (OT)

No. 7 Clarkson (16-5-2)
01/17/2020 – No. 7 Clarkson 2 at RV Dartmouth 3
01/18/2020 – No. 7 Clarkson 5 at No. 16 Harvard 3

No. 8 Minnesota Duluth (12-8-2)
01/17/2020 No. 8 Minnesota Duluth 1 at St. Cloud State 2
01/18/2020 No. 8 Minnesota Duluth 0 at St. Cloud State 2

No. 9 Ohio State (15-6-3)
01/17/2020 – No. 18 Notre Dame 4 at No. 9 Ohio State 4 (OT)
01/18/2020 – No. 18 Notre Dame 1 at No. 9 Ohio State 2

No. 10 Massachusetts (16-7-1)
01/17/2020 – No. 10 Massachusetts 4 at Vermont 0
01/18/2020 – No. 10 Massachusetts 3 at Vermont 1

No. 11 Providence (14-6-5)
01/17/2020 – RV New Hampshire 4 at No. 11 Providence 3
01/18/2020 – No. 11 Providence 5 at RV New Hampshire 1

No. 12 Northeastern (13-7-2)
01/18/2020 – Connecticut 3 at No. 12 Northeastern 2 (OT)

No. 13 UMass Lowell (13-6-4)
01/17/2020 – No. 5 Boston College 3 at No. 13 UMass Lowell 2
01/18/2020 – Merrimack 4 at No. 13 UMass Lowell 6

No. 14 Arizona State (15-8-3)
01/17/2020 – RIT 1 at No. 14 Arizona State 6
01/18/2020 – RIT 3 at No. 14 Arizona State 5

No. 15 Bowling Green (13-11-2)
01/17/2020 – No. 3 Minnesota State 6 at No. 15 Bowling Green 3
01/18/2020 – No. 3 Minnesota State 3 at No. 15 Bowling Green 2 (OT)

No. 16 Harvard (9-6-2)
01/17/2020 – St. Lawrence 1 at No. 16 Harvard 3
01/18/2020 – No. 7 Clarkson 5 at No. 16 Harvard 3

No. 17 Northern Michigan (13-8-3)
01/17/2020 – No. 17 Northern Michigan 2 at No. 1 Cornell 2 (OT)
01/18/2020 – No. 17 Northern Michigan 1 at No. 1 Cornell 3

No. 18 Notre Dame (10-10-4)
01/17/2020 – No. 18 Notre Dame 4 at No. 9 Ohio State 4 (OT)
01/18/2020 – No. 18 Notre Dame 1 at No. 9 Ohio State 2

No. 19 Michigan Tech (13-11-3)
01/17/2020 – No. 19 Michigan Tech 1 at RV Bemidji State 4
01/18/2020 – No. 19 Michigan Tech 1 at RV Bemidji State 1 (OT)

No. 20 Michigan State (12-11-1)
01/17/2020 – No. 20 Michigan State 4 at Wisconsin 0
01/18/2020 – No. 20 Michigan State 1 at Wisconsin 3

No. 20 Quinnipiac (13-8-1)
01/17/2020 – No. 20 Quinnipiac 4 at Holy Cross 3

RV = Received Votes

Swampy
NMU beat then-#1 Minny State.

whoa sounds like Mankato should be very concerned with their inconsistency

Cornell is outright #1 in USCHO poll this week.

Here's the link, I'll post them all at the end of work.

USCHO Division I Men's Poll - January 20, 2020

Dartmouth is now 20, so we've played 8/20 teams.

KenP
Cornell is outright #1 in USCHO poll this week.

Only by 2 poll points, despite having 7 more first place votes than UND. Only 11 points ahead of #3 Mankato. North Dakota got 3 fewer first-place votes than Mankato, yet leads them by 9 points. NCHC biasing?

I’m treating it as a three-way tie and nothing will change until one of us loses.

Interesting that the women, who are 4th in USCHO, received a 1st place vote. Maybe from Katy Stone of Harvard after the ladies put a butt-whipping on the Crimson?

USCHO Division I Men's Poll - January 20, 2020
Rnk	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	Cornell	        (21)	13-1-3	951	1
2	North Dakota	(13)	18-2-3	949	1
3	Minnesota State	(16)	22-3-1	940	3
4	Boston College		15-5-0	836	5
5	Denver		        15-4-5	811	4
6	Ohio State		15-6-3	700	9
7	Massachusetts		16-7-1	683	10
8	Clarkson		16-5-2	682	7
9	Penn State		16-7-1	602	6
10	Providence		14-6-5	535	11
11	Minnesota Duluth	12-8-2	505	8
12	UMass Lowell		13-6-4	424	13
13	Arizona State		15-8-3	420	14
14	Northeastern		13-7-2	368	12
15	Northern Michigan	13-8-3	206	17
16	Harvard		         9-6-2	179	16
17	Quinnipiac		13-8-1	151	20
18	Bowling Green		13-11-2	124	15
19	Michigan State		12-11-1	104	20
20	Dartmouth		10-5-3	73	NR

Others receiving votes: Notre Dame 65, Bemidji State 58, 
Army 31, New Hampshire 31, Michigan Tech 22, Michigan 21, 
Western Michigan 19, Sacred Heart 7, Omaha 2, St. Cloud 1

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
January 20, 2020
	Team	               Points (First) Last Poll	Record	Weeks in Poll
	
1	Cornell University 	479	(20)	1	13-1-3	16
2	University North Dakota 478	(10)	2	18-2-3	12
3	Minnesota State Univer 	452	(4)	3	22-3-1	16
4	Boston College 	        404		5	15-5-0	13
5	University of Denver 	394		4	15-4-5	16
6	Ohio State University 	314		9	15-6-3	16
7	University Massachusetts303		10	16-7-1	16
8	Clarkson University 	259		7	16-5-2	16
9	Penn State University 	233		6	16-7-1	16
10	Providence College 	186		11	14-6-5	13
11	Univer Minnesota Duluth	171		8	13-8-2	16
12	Uni Massachusetts Lowell126		13	13-6-4	10
13	Arizona State University121		14	8-2-2	4
14	Northeastern University  92		12	13-7-2	16
15	Northern Michigan Univer 23		NR	13-9-3	1

Others receiving votes: Michigan State University 21 Quinnipiac University 12 
Harvard University 6 Dartmouth College 4 Michigan Tech University 2.

NCAA Tournament Pairwise Comparison Ratings

Rk 	Team 	        PCWs 	RPI 	Rk 	QWB-† 	W-L-T 	Win % 	Wgtd Win % - ‡
1 	North Dakota 	59 	.6184 	1 	.0046 	18-2-3 	.8478 	.8532
2 	Minnesota State 58 	.6155 	2 	.0065 	22-3-1 	.8654 	.8626
3 	Cornell 	57 	.6138 	3 	.0086 	13-1-3 	.8529 	.8647
4 	Denver 	        56 	.5877 	5 	.0076 	15-4-5 	.7292 	.7304
5 	Boston College 	55 	.5945 	4 	.0049 	15-5-0 	.7500 	.7647
6 	Massachusetts 	54 	.5630 	6 	.0044 	16-7-1 	.6875 	.7009
7 	Ohio State 	53 	.5628 	7 	.0025 	15-6-3 	.6875 	.6830
8 	Clarkson 	52 	.5570 	8 	.0006 	16-5-2 	.7391 	.7414
9 	Penn State 	51 	.5562 	9 	.0017 	16-7-1 	.6875 	.6667
10 	Providence 	50 	.5501 	10 	.0061 	14-6-5 	.6600 	.6434
11 	Arizona State 	49 	.5481 	11 	.0035 	15-8-3 	.6346 	.6389
12 	Minnesota-Duluth48 	.5449 	12 	.0030 	12-8-2 	.5909 	.5926
13 	Mass.-Lowell 	47 	.5433 	13 	.0047 	13-6-4 	.6522 	.6356
14 	Northeastern 	46 	.5394 	14 	.0028 	13-7-2 	.6364 	.6442
15 	Quinnipiac 	45 	.5351 	15 	.0026 	13-8-1 	.6136 	.6311
16 	Michigan State 	43 	.5327 	16 	.0030 	12-11-1 .5208 	.5214
17 	North Michigan 	42 	.5311 	17 	.0031 	13-8-3 	.6042 	.5950
18 	New Hampshire 	42 	.5293 	18 	.0055 	12-9-1 	.5682 	.5743
19 	Dartmouth 	41 	.5291 	19 	.0041 	10-5-3 	.6389 	.6386
20 	Harvard 	40 	.5268 	20 	.0034 	9-6-2 	.5882 	.5756
21 	Notre Dame 	39 	.5263 	21 	.0049 	10-10-4 .5000 	.4914
22 	Michigan Tech 	38 	.5242 	22 	.0028 	13-11-3 .5370 	.5461
23 	Bemidji State 	37 	.5229 	23 	.0000 	13-7-4 	.6250 	.6283
24 	Michigan 	36 	.5215 	24 	.0041 	10-11-3 .4792 	.4874
25 	Army 	        35 	.5190 	25 	.0002 	14-7-2 	.6522 	.6466

KRACH: Division I Men

Rank	Team	       Rating	RRWP Win % Rk	W-L-T	Win % Win Ratio	SOS Rk	SOS

1	Minnesota State	1066.	.8867	1	22-3-1	0.8654	6.429	11	165.8
2	North Dakota	1034.	.8837	3	18-2-3	0.8478	5.571	4	185.6
3	Cornell	        769.3	.8522	2	13-1-3	0.8529	5.800	19	132.6
4	Denver	        523.9	.8029	6	15-4-5	0.7292	2.692	2	194.6
5	Boston College	454.5	.7822	4	15-5-0	0.7500	3.000	14	151.5
6	Ohio State	322.5	.7271	7	15-6-3	0.6875	2.200	15	146.6
7	Penn State	280.0	.7024	7	16-7-1	0.6875	2.200	20	127.3
8	Clarkson	257.1	.6870	5	16-5-2	0.7391	2.833	42	90.74
9	Massachusetts	250.3	.6820	7	16-7-1	0.6875	2.200	26	113.8
10	Minnesota Duluth244.6	.6778	20	12-8-2	0.5909	1.444	8	169.3
11	Providence	234.7	.6701	10	14-6-5	0.6600	1.941	25	120.9
12	Arizona State	219.5	.6575	15	15-8-3	0.6346	1.737	22	126.4
13	Michigan State	205.5	.6449	26	12-11-1	0.5208	1.087	3	189.0
14	North Michigan	193.2	.6329	19	13-8-3	0.6042	1.526	21	126.6
15	UMass Lowell	182.3	.6216	11	13-6-4	0.6522	1.875	35	97.21
16	Northeastern	180.2	.6193	14	13-7-2	0.6364	1.750	30	103.0
17	Michigan Tech	179.7	.6188	24	13-11-3	0.5370	1.160	12	154.9
18	Western Michigan174.5	.6130	29	9-9-4	0.5000	1.000	7	174.5
19	Notre Dame	169.3	.6070	29	10-10-4	0.5000	1.000	9	169.3
20	Dartmouth	160.6	.5965	13	10-5-3	0.6389	1.769	41	90.79
21	Quinnipiac	160.2	.5959	18	13-8-1	0.6136	1.588	31	100.8
22	Bemidji State	159.5	.5951	16	13-7-4	0.6250	1.667	36	95.69
23	Harvard	        155.9	.5906	21	9-6-2	0.5882	1.429	29	109.2

USCHO Division I Women's Poll - January 20, 2020
Rnk	Team	       (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	Wisconsin	(8)	21-2-1	143	2
2	Minnesota	(6)	20-2-3	138	1
3	Northeastern		19-3-1	116	3
4	Cornell	        (1)	16-1-2	111	4
5	Ohio State		14-6-4	91	5
6	Princeton		14-4-1	73	6
7	Clarkson		16-4-4	53	7
7	Boston University	16-5-2	53	8
9	Minnesota Duluth	11-8-3	28	10
10	Harvard		        10-7-1	8	9

Others receiving votes: Quinnipiac 7, Boston College 2, 
Colgate 1, Bemidji State 1

Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings

Rnk	Team	       PWR	W-L-T	W%	W% Rnk	RPI	RPI Rnk

1	Wisconsin	40	21-2-1	0.8958	1	0.6767*	1
2	Minnesota	39	20-2-3	0.8600	3	0.6721*	2
3	Cornell	        38	16-1-2	0.8947	2	0.6707*	3
4	Northeastern	37	19-3-1	0.8478	4	0.6336*	4
5	Ohio State	36	14-6-4	0.6667	8	0.6176	5
6	Princeton	35	14-4-1	0.7632	5	0.6126*	6
7	Boston Univer	34	16-5-2	0.7391	7	0.5850*	7
8	Clarkson	33	16-4-4	0.7500	6	0.5790*	8
9	Minnesota Duluth32	11-8-3	0.5682	18	0.5640	9
10	Harvard	        31	10-7-1	0.5833	11	0.5563*	10
11	Quinnipiac	30	13-7-3	0.6304	9	0.5502*	11
12	Colgate	        29	13-9-4	0.5769	16	0.5496*	12

KRACH: National Collegiate Women

Rank	Team	      Rating	RRWP Win % Rk	W-L-T	Win % Win Ratio	SOS Rk	SOS

1	Wisconsin	4828.	.9367	1	21-2-1	0.8958	8.600	3	561.4
2	Minnesota	4064.	.9268	3	20-2-3	0.8600	6.143	2	661.6
3	Cornell	        3373.	.9151	2	16-1-2	0.8947	8.500	5	396.8
4	Ohio State	1858.	.8700	8	14-6-4	0.6667	2.000	1	928.9
5	Princeton	1174.	.8270	5	14-4-1	0.7632	3.222	6	364.3
6	Northeastern	 997.9	.8101	4	19-3-1	0.8478	5.571	13	179.1
7	Minnesota Duluth 665.8	.7637	18	11-8-3	0.5682	1.316	4	506.0
8	Clarkson	 553.2	.7407	6	16-4-4	0.7500	3.000	12	184.4
9	Boston University430.9	.7080	7	16-5-2	0.7391	2.833	18	152.1
10	Harvard	         397.4	.6971	11	10-7-1	0.5833	1.400	8	283.8
11	Bemidji State	 379.3	.6908	21	13-12-1	0.5192	1.080	7	351.2
12	Colgate	         360.6	.6838	16	13-9-4	0.5769	1.364	9	264.4
13	Quinnipiac	 293.3	.6548	9	13-7-3	0.6304	1.706	16	171.9
14	Robert Morris	 241.3	.6269	11	13-9-2	0.5833	1.400	15	172.4

This is the first time we have successfully defended the poll pole position since I've been tracking polls, and I assume since 72 or perhaps 73.

This is the first string of 4 top-20 opponents (at the time of playing) since the last four games of 2012. We haven't done 5+ in the 20 years I've tracked it; possibly ever. Q is 17 so we may do it next week.

Trotsky
This is the first time we have successfully defended the poll pole position since I've been tracking polls, and I assume since 72 or perhaps 73.

This is the first string of 4 top-20 opponents (at the time of playing) since the last four games of 2012. We haven't done 5+ in the 20 years I've tracked it; possibly ever. Q is 17 so we may do it next week.

Q?

Don't 20 Dartmouth (1/24) and 16 Harvard (1/25) count?

Swampy

Trotsky
This is the first time we have successfully defended the poll pole position since I've been tracking polls, and I assume since 72 or perhaps 73.

This is the first string of 4 top-20 opponents (at the time of playing) since the last four games of 2012. We haven't done 5+ in the 20 years I've tracked it; possibly ever. Q is 17 so we may do it next week.

Q?

Don't 20 Dartmouth (1/24) and 16 Harvard (1/25) count?

They are 3 and 4. Q would be 5.

I forgot about RPI & Union and thought we had played OSU & Providence immediately prior to tNMU. Sorry!

BTW, since we're using first initials to designate teams, it's really too bad that Union doesn't come after Dartmouth and before Harvard on the schedule.

Swampy
BTW, since we're using first initials to designate teams

We could. In an ECAC solitaire card game I made (because of course) I use:

BKG CDH PQR SUY with K as Clarkson and G as Colgate. In prior incarnations it had V and A.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Women's College Hockey Poll
January 21, 2020
	Team	              Points	(First)	Last Poll	Record	Weeks in Poll

1	University of Wisconsin 184	(13)	2	21-2-1	16
2	University of Minnesota 172	(5)	1	20-2-3	16
3	Northeastern University 151		3	19-3-1	16
4	Cornell University 	136	(1)	4	16-1-2	16
5	Ohio State University 	116		6	14-6-4	16
6	Princeton University 	92		5	14-4-1	16
7	Clarkson University 	69		7	16-4-4	16
8	Boston University 	64		8	16-5-2	13
9	Univer Minnesota Duluth 36		10	11-8-3	14
10	Quinnipiac University 	13		NR	13-7-3	1

Others receiving votes: Harvard University 5, Boston College 3, 
Bemidji State University 2, Colgate University 2.

Trotsky
This is the first time we have successfully defended the poll pole position since I've been tracking polls, and I assume since 72 or perhaps 73.

According to an email blast sent to season ticket holders today it's actually the first time ever:

"For a second straight week, Cornell retains the #1 spot in both the USCHO.com and USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine polls, having lost just once in its first 17 games despite playing the nation's fewest home games to date (six). It's the first time the Big Red has claimed the top spot in both national polls for consecutive weeks since the polls started during the 1990s."

andyw2100

Trotsky
This is the first time we have successfully defended the poll pole position since I've been tracking polls, and I assume since 72 or perhaps 73.

According to an email blast sent to season ticket holders today it's actually the first time ever:

"For a second straight week, Cornell retains the #1 spot in both the USCHO.com and USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine polls, having lost just once in its first 17 games despite playing the nation's fewest home games to date (six). It's the first time the Big Red has claimed the top spot in both national polls for consecutive weeks since the polls started during the 1990s."

Well, one would presume had they polls back then the 1969-1970 team would have had #1 for more than a week.

Then again, maybe it was like lacrosse, and it would have taken actually winning the NC to convince the nonbelievers. If given the choice, I'd take the latter option this year in a heartbeat.

Swampy
Well, one would presume had they polls back then the 1969-1970 team would have had #1 for more than a week.

USCHO started in the 90s. USA Hockey started earlier. In any case, there were polls all the way back to at least the 70s and probably before. Don Birkmayer's newsletter used to publish a poll from a radio station in Michigan, and IINM there were also polls out of Minnesota and Boston. I believe they were all sponsored by local media and probably heavily locally biased. Taking their average might produce a true picture of national ranking during those years.

NoDak is leading late so it looks like it’ll have the top PWR spot and Cornell will be in 2nd. Fun tidbit: At the moment Cornell has the highest quality win bonus (QWB) of *any* team. I think that backs ups the view that Cornell hasn’t built its record by playing cupcakes (not that any of us thought that).

JasonN95
NoDak is leading late so it looks like it’ll have the top PWR spot and Cornell will be in 2nd. Fun tidbit: At the moment Cornell has the highest quality win bonus (QWB) of *any* team. I think that backs ups the view that Cornell hasn’t built its record by playing cupcakes (not that any of us thought that).

Both USCHO & CHN have those NoDak characters #1 and us #2 in the pairwise after last night. It's the adjusted RPI -- .6151 (ND) and .6087 (CU) -- that's responsible. It didn't help that some of our better wins were against teams that lost (MSU, OSU x 2) or tied (DU, BU, CLK, NMU) over the weekend.

Swampy

JasonN95
NoDak is leading late so it looks like it’ll have the top PWR spot and Cornell will be in 2nd. Fun tidbit: At the moment Cornell has the highest quality win bonus (QWB) of *any* team. I think that backs ups the view that Cornell hasn’t built its record by playing cupcakes (not that any of us thought that).

Both USCHO & CHN have those NoDak characters #1 and us #2 in the pairwise after last night. It's the adjusted RPI -- .6151 (ND) and .6087 (CU) -- that's responsible. It didn't help that some of our better wins were against teams that lost (MSU, OSU x 2) or tied (DU, BU, CLK, NMU) over the weekend.

[Pedantic alert]

DC

[/pedantic alert]

Jeff Hopkins '82

Swampy

JasonN95
NoDak is leading late so it looks like it’ll have the top PWR spot and Cornell will be in 2nd. Fun tidbit: At the moment Cornell has the highest quality win bonus (QWB) of *any* team. I think that backs ups the view that Cornell hasn’t built its record by playing cupcakes (not that any of us thought that).

Both USCHO & CHN have those NoDak characters #1 and us #2 in the pairwise after last night. It's the adjusted RPI -- .6151 (ND) and .6087 (CU) -- that's responsible. It didn't help that some of our better wins were against teams that lost (MSU, OSU x 2) or tied (DU, BU, CLK, NMU) over the weekend.

[Pedantic alert]

DC

[/pedantic alert]

[argumentative alert]

Wikipedia says, "Dartmouth College is a private Ivy League research university ...," (emphasis added)

Wikipedia also says, "In the United States, "college" may refer to a constituent part of a university or to a degree-awarding tertiary educational institution, but generally "college" and "university" are used interchangeably."

Finally,

The Atlantic
says,
"Technically, colleges are institutions that focus on undergraduate education and tend to be small (no more than a few thousand students); universities are larger and grant graduate degrees.

Now since

Dartmouth has 6,571 students, while Bryant University has only 3,751, accordingly the Law of (Not So) Large Institutions applies:

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2019/11/is-a-college-different-from-a-university/602215/
Plenty of schools with college in their name, for example, have graduate programs—such as Dartmouth and William & Mary. And some universities are relatively small—such as Clark and, well, Lasell [or Bryant].

[/argumentative alert]

Swampy

Jeff Hopkins '82

Swampy

JasonN95
NoDak is leading late so it looks like it’ll have the top PWR spot and Cornell will be in 2nd. Fun tidbit: At the moment Cornell has the highest quality win bonus (QWB) of *any* team. I think that backs ups the view that Cornell hasn’t built its record by playing cupcakes (not that any of us thought that).

Both USCHO & CHN have those NoDak characters #1 and us #2 in the pairwise after last night. It's the adjusted RPI -- .6151 (ND) and .6087 (CU) -- that's responsible. It didn't help that some of our better wins were against teams that lost (MSU, OSU x 2) or tied (DU, BU, CLK, NMU) over the weekend.

[Pedantic alert]

DC

[/pedantic alert]

[argumentative alert]

Wikipedia says, "Dartmouth College is a private Ivy League research university ...," (emphasis added)

Wikipedia also says, "In the United States, "college" may refer to a constituent part of a university or to a degree-awarding tertiary educational institution, but generally "college" and "university" are used interchangeably."

Finally,

The Atlantic
says,
"Technically, colleges are institutions that focus on undergraduate education and tend to be small (no more than a few thousand students); universities are larger and grant graduate degrees.

Now since

Dartmouth has 6,571 students, while Bryant University has only 3,751, accordingly the Law of (Not So) Large Institutions applies:

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2019/11/is-a-college-different-from-a-university/602215/
Plenty of schools with college in their name, for example, have graduate programs—such as Dartmouth and William & Mary. And some universities are relatively small—such as Clark and, well, Lasell [or Bryant].

[/argumentative alert]

that certainly is many words

Swampy

Jeff Hopkins '82

Swampy

JasonN95
NoDak is leading late so it looks like it’ll have the top PWR spot and Cornell will be in 2nd. Fun tidbit: At the moment Cornell has the highest quality win bonus (QWB) of *any* team. I think that backs ups the view that Cornell hasn’t built its record by playing cupcakes (not that any of us thought that).

Both USCHO & CHN have those NoDak characters #1 and us #2 in the pairwise after last night. It's the adjusted RPI -- .6151 (ND) and .6087 (CU) -- that's responsible. It didn't help that some of our better wins were against teams that lost (MSU, OSU x 2) or tied (DU, BU, CLK, NMU) over the weekend.

[Pedantic alert]

DC

[/pedantic alert]

[argumentative alert]

Wikipedia says, "Dartmouth College is a private Ivy League research university ...," (emphasis added)

Wikipedia also says, "In the United States, "college" may refer to a constituent part of a university or to a degree-awarding tertiary educational institution, but generally "college" and "university" are used interchangeably."

Finally,

The Atlantic
says,
"Technically, colleges are institutions that focus on undergraduate education and tend to be small (no more than a few thousand students); universities are larger and grant graduate degrees.

Now since

Dartmouth has 6,571 students, while Bryant University has only 3,751, accordingly the Law of (Not So) Large Institutions applies:

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2019/11/is-a-college-different-from-a-university/602215/
Plenty of schools with college in their name, for example, have graduate programs—such as Dartmouth and William & Mary. And some universities are relatively small—such as Clark and, well, Lasell [or Bryant].

[/argumentative alert]

Wow.

Dartmouth refers to itself as "Dartmouth College." They are the ultimate arbiter.

Rankings roundup: How the top 20 teams fared, Jan. 24-26

No. 1 Cornell (14-1-4)
01/24/2020 – No. 20 Dartmouth 2 at No. 1 Cornell 3
01/25/2020 – No. 16 Harvard 1 at No. 1 Cornell 1 (OT)

No. 2 North Dakota (19-3-3)
01/24/2020 – No. 2 North Dakota 4 at No. 11 Minnesota Duluth 7
01/25/2020 – No. 2 North Dakota 3 at No. 11 Minnesota Duluth 2

No. 3 Minnesota State (23-4-1)
01/24/2020 – RV Bemidji State 2 at No. 3 Minnesota State 3
01/25/2020 – RV Bemidji State 4 at No. 3 Minnesota State 2

No. 4 Boston College (15-7-0)
01/24/2020 – Maine 4 at No. 4 Boston College 3 (OT)
01/25/2020 – Maine 3 at No. 4 Boston College 2 (OT)

No. 5 Denver (17-4-5)
01/24/2020 – No. 5 Denver 3 at Miami 2
01/25/2020 – No. 5 Denver 5 at Miami 2

No. 6 Ohio State (15-8-3)
01/24/2020 – No. 6 Ohio State 3 at Minnesota 6
01/25/2020 – No. 6 Ohio State 1 at Minnesota 4

No. 7 Massachusetts (16-8-2)
01/24/2020 – RV New Hampshire 1 at No. 7 Massachusetts 0
01/25/2020 – No. 7 Massachusetts 1 at RV New Hampshire 1 (OT)

No. 8 Clarkson (17-6-2)
01/24/2020 – No. 13 Arizona State 1 at No. 8 Clarkson 2 (OT)
01/25/2020 – No. 13 Arizona State 3 at No. 8 Clarkson 2 (OT)

No. 9 Penn State (17-8-1)
01/24/2020 – No. 9 Penn State 2 at No. 19 Michigan State 4
01/25/2020 – No. 9 Penn State 2 at No. 19 Michigan State 1 (OT)

No. 10 Providence (14-6-5)
Did not play.

No. 11 Minnesota Duluth (13-9-2)
01/24/2020 – No. 2 North Dakota 4 at No. 11 Minnesota Duluth 7
01/25/2020 – No. 2 North Dakota 3 at No. 11 Minnesota Duluth 2

No. 12 UMass Lowell (13-7-5)
01/24/2020 – No. 12 UMass Lowell 0 at Boston University 5
01/25/2020 – Boston University 2 at No. 12 UMass Lowell 2 (OT)

No. 13 Arizona State (16-9-3)
01/24/2020 – No. 13 Arizona State 1 at No. 8 Clarkson 2 (OT)
01/25/2020 – No. 13 Arizona State 3 at No. 8 Clarkson 2 (OT)

No. 14 Northeastern (13-7-2)
Did not play.

No. 15 Northern Michigan (14-8-4)
01/24/2020 – No. 15 Northern Michigan 4 at Alaska 4 (OT)
01/25/2020 – No. 15 Northern Michigan 4 at Alaska 2

No. 16 Harvard (9-6-4)
01/24/2020 – No. 16 Harvard 3 at Colgate 3 (OT)
01/25/2020 – No. 16 Harvard 1 at No. 1 Cornell 1 (OT)

No. 17 Quinnipiac (14-9-1)
01/25/2020 – No. 17 Quinnipiac 3 vs Connecticut 2 (Connecticut Ice Festival, Bridgeport, Conn.)
01/26/2020 – No. 17 Quinnipiac 1 vs RV Sacred Heart 4 (Connecticut Ice Festival championship, Bridgeport, Conn.)

No. 18 Bowling Green (13-11-2)
Did not play.

No. 19 Michigan State (13-12-1)
01/24/2020 – No. 9 Penn State 2 at No. 19 Michigan State 4
01/25/2020 – No. 9 Penn State 2 at No. 19 Michigan State 1 (OT)

No. 20 Dartmouth (10-6-4)
01/24/2020 – No. 20 Dartmouth 2 at No. 1 Cornell 3
01/25/2020 – No. 20 Dartmouth 3 at Colgate 3 (OT)

RV = Received Votes

Really appreciate you doing these, Jim. Thanks.

Summary:

 1. Cornell      1-0-1
 2. North Dakota 1-1
 3. Mankato      1-1
 4. BC           0-2
 5. Denver       2-0
 7. UMass        0-1-1
 8. Clarkson     1-1
 9. Penn State   1-1
10. Providence   0-0

The top 10 going just 7-7-2 with no games against each other. Our 3-point weekend against two teams in the top-20 looks pretty good.

After Q we play 8 unranked teams (here listed with PWR):

53 Prn
39 Cgt
39 Cgt
55 Uni
43 RPI
38 Yal
56 Brn
59 SLU

before finishing vs Clarkson.

Time to get fat.

Wow. 40 top place votes from USCHO poll at the end of February. Knock on wood...

Cornell continues at the #1 spot. More clear lead this week with 40 first place votes.

ajh258
Wow. 40 top place votes from USCHO poll at the end of February.

I knew the drugs would catch up with me eventually. Time sense goes first.

 1. Cornell
 6. Clarkson
16. Harvard
18. Quinnipiac
23. Dartmouth

Trotsky

ajh258
Wow. 40 top place votes from USCHO poll at the end of February.

I knew the drugs would catch up with me eventually. Time sense goes first.

Sorry. Been running on little sleep past 48 hours.

But this is giving me a boost.

USCHO Division I Men's Poll - January 27, 2020
Rnk	Team	     (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	Cornell	        (40)	14-1-4	986	1
2	North Dakota	(8)	19-3-3	946	2
3	Minnesota State	(2)	23-4-1	892	3
4	Denver		        17-4-5	874	5
5	Boston College		15-7-0	753	4
6	Clarkson		17-6-2	716	8
7	Massachusetts		16-8-2	671	7
8	Penn State		17-8-1	623	9
9	Providence		14-6-5	604	10
10	Minnesota Duluth	13-9-2	568	11
11	Ohio State		15-8-3	546	6
12	Arizona State		16-9-3	441	13
13	Northeastern		13-7-2	375	14
14	UMass Lowell		13-7-5	352	12
15	Northern Michigan	14-8-4	288	15
16	Harvard		         9-6-4	161	16
17	Michigan State		13-12-1	131	19
18	Quinnipiac		14-9-1	127	17
19	Bemidji State		14-8-4	91	NR
20	Sacred Heart		16-8-2	83	NR

Others receiving votes: New Hampshire 81, Bowling Green 77, 
Dartmouth 28, Western Michigan 23, Maine 21, Notre Dame 14, 
Minnesota 6, Michigan 6, Army 5, Boston University 5, 
Omaha 4, Michigan Tech 1, RIT 1

USCHO Division I Women's Poll - January 27, 2020
Rnk	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	Wisconsin	(13)	23-2-1	148	1
2	Minnesota	(1)	20-4-3	124	2
3	Northeastern		21-3-1	121	3
4	Cornell	        (1)	18-1-2	116	4
5	Ohio State		16-6-4	90	5
6	Princeton		14-4-1	72	6
7	Clarkson		18-4-4	62	7
8	Boston University	17-5-3	44	7
9	Minnesota Duluth	12-8-4	27	9
10	Harvard		        11-8-1	11	10

Others receiving votes: Quinnipiac 3, Robert Morris 3, 
Bemidji State 2, Providence 2

I'll add the rest this evening.

ajh258
But this is giving me a boost.

Given the news in the real world the past few years. Cornell hockey is what's kept me out of the booby hatch.

Trotsky

ajh258
But this is giving me a boost.

Given the news in the real world the past few years. Cornell hockey is what's kept me out of the booby hatch.

You and me both, friend.