Bracketology 2019

Another thing according to my second-favorite site: the #1 seeds are set (though their order can change):

   1    2    3    4
1.00                 St. Cloud
      .65  .27  .08  UMass
      .24  .49  .27  Mankato
      .11  .24  .65  Minn-Duluth

"Today's" bracket would pose an interesting decision for the committee. The ECAC teams other than Q are in the 9-12 slots along with ASU. This likely puts ASU in Providence VS QPeck.

That in turn means that one of the remaining teams has to hitchhike to Fargo. Clarkson at 9 would by the numbers draw N. Eastern in Manchester.

But it's more likely Harvard would go there. Which would mean Cornell and Clarkson would be Fighting for Fargo.

but since one of harvard/clark will lose things will change. clarkson beating harvard and they probably go to the 2 line.

if we win out we might be able to get ahead of both clarson and harvard and stay east easier.

upprdeck
but since one of harvard/clark will lose things will change. clarkson beating harvard and they probably go to the 2 line.

if we win out we might be able to get ahead of both clarson and harvard and stay east easier.

And that is why doing this is only exercise - and fun for some of us.

if anyone is still on the fence as to the intelligence level of your average college hockey fan, I will gladly data dump my inbox and twitter feed from this weekend.

adamw
if anyone is still on the fence as to the intelligence level of

The answer to this question is always no.

To sum up the numbers-crunching I've done so far (keep in mind that Pairwise is just RPI except in weird exceptional cases):

If we beat Brown, we're almost definitely in. There is a scenario where we aren't, though: If Western Michigan wins the NCHC, BU or BC wins Hockey East, Bowling Green wins the WCHA, AND Sucks beats us in the ECAC finals, we wind up in 14th, with at large bids only going to the top 13. I didn't crunch this for every iteration of Atlantic Hockey, but it's unlikely that changes there would get us the .0017 we need to catch Clarkson in RPI.

If we lose to Brown, we're still in better shape than not, but things start getting hairy. If everything shakes out just wrong, we fall below Providence in RPI. Bowling Green passes us if they win, and maybe still if they lose depending on how other things go. Western Michigan passes us if they win their conference, or if they lose their semi-final game and beat St. Cloud in the third-place game, but not if they beat Denver in a semi-final (though this could change with various other details). If we lose and Harvard loses, it gets very tight between the two of us. The lowest we could drop is 16th, which would have us out. How many teams pass us and how many spots are available is the question.

Root for Clarkson over Harvard, Western Michigan to lose twice, and the favorites to win in Hockey East (NE and UMass) and WCHA (Minnesota State). CHN has us at 95% to get in. That honestly sounds about right, but keep in mind their methods don't calculate how hot a team is at the moment, so they probably underrate Brown.

That being said, Brown's up to 26th in the Pairwise. What a world.

Dafatone
To sum up the numbers-crunching I've done so far (keep in mind that Pairwise is just RPI except in weird exceptional cases):

If we beat Brown, we're almost definitely in. There is a scenario where we aren't, though: If Western Michigan wins the NCHC, BU or BC wins Hockey East, Bowling Green wins the WCHA, AND Sucks beats us in the ECAC finals, we wind up in 14th, with at large bids only going to the top 13. I didn't crunch this for every iteration of Atlantic Hockey, but it's unlikely that changes there would get us the .0017 we need to catch Clarkson in RPI.

If we lose to Brown, we're still in better shape than not, but things start getting hairy. If everything shakes out just wrong, we fall below Providence in RPI. Bowling Green passes us if they win, and maybe still if they lose depending on how other things go. Western Michigan passes us if they win their conference, or if they lose their semi-final game and beat St. Cloud in the third-place game, but not if they beat Denver in a semi-final (though this could change with various other details). If we lose and Harvard loses, it gets very tight between the two of us. The lowest we could drop is 16th, which would have us out. How many teams pass us and how many spots are available is the question.

Root for Clarkson over Harvard, Western Michigan to lose twice, and the favorites to win in Hockey East (NE and UMass) and WCHA (Minnesota State). CHN has us at 95% to get in. That honestly sounds about right, but keep in mind their methods don't calculate how hot a team is at the moment, so they probably underrate Brown.

That being said, Brown's up to 26th in the Pairwise. What a world.

my goal is to take recent play into account in future iterations of the Probability Matrix. Again, this will require someone better at math than I am to help come up with a formula.

FYI - I don't think you noted that WMU plays a Game 3 tonight - and so just that one loss would help as well.

adamw

Dafatone
To sum up the numbers-crunching I've done so far (keep in mind that Pairwise is just RPI except in weird exceptional cases):

If we beat Brown, we're almost definitely in. There is a scenario where we aren't, though: If Western Michigan wins the NCHC, BU or BC wins Hockey East, Bowling Green wins the WCHA, AND Sucks beats us in the ECAC finals, we wind up in 14th, with at large bids only going to the top 13. I didn't crunch this for every iteration of Atlantic Hockey, but it's unlikely that changes there would get us the .0017 we need to catch Clarkson in RPI.

If we lose to Brown, we're still in better shape than not, but things start getting hairy. If everything shakes out just wrong, we fall below Providence in RPI. Bowling Green passes us if they win, and maybe still if they lose depending on how other things go. Western Michigan passes us if they win their conference, or if they lose their semi-final game and beat St. Cloud in the third-place game, but not if they beat Denver in a semi-final (though this could change with various other details). If we lose and Harvard loses, it gets very tight between the two of us. The lowest we could drop is 16th, which would have us out. How many teams pass us and how many spots are available is the question.

Root for Clarkson over Harvard, Western Michigan to lose twice, and the favorites to win in Hockey East (NE and UMass) and WCHA (Minnesota State). CHN has us at 95% to get in. That honestly sounds about right, but keep in mind their methods don't calculate how hot a team is at the moment, so they probably underrate Brown.

That being said, Brown's up to 26th in the Pairwise. What a world.

my goal is to take recent play into account in future iterations of the Probability Matrix. Again, this will require someone better at math than I am to help come up with a formula.

FYI - I don't think you noted that WMU plays a Game 3 tonight - and so just that one loss would help as well.

Thanks! I forgot about that makeup game. So, if CC beats WMU, then WMU is out of our way and we only have to worry about CC winning the NCHC. If WMU beats CC, they get a leg up in the pairwise, and we probably need them to lose both of their remaining games for us to stay ahead of them if we lose to Brown.

if CC beats west mich and minn duluth and st cloud then they deserve to get in.

bowling green has pretty good shot at beating Minn st

we can drop out, we can get a 2 seed..

lets just beat brown and the worry on sat..

Dafatone

adamw

Dafatone
To sum up the numbers-crunching I've done so far (keep in mind that Pairwise is just RPI except in weird exceptional cases):

If we beat Brown, we're almost definitely in. There is a scenario where we aren't, though: If Western Michigan wins the NCHC, BU or BC wins Hockey East, Bowling Green wins the WCHA, AND Sucks beats us in the ECAC finals, we wind up in 14th, with at large bids only going to the top 13. I didn't crunch this for every iteration of Atlantic Hockey, but it's unlikely that changes there would get us the .0017 we need to catch Clarkson in RPI.

If we lose to Brown, we're still in better shape than not, but things start getting hairy. If everything shakes out just wrong, we fall below Providence in RPI. Bowling Green passes us if they win, and maybe still if they lose depending on how other things go. Western Michigan passes us if they win their conference, or if they lose their semi-final game and beat St. Cloud in the third-place game, but not if they beat Denver in a semi-final (though this could change with various other details). If we lose and Harvard loses, it gets very tight between the two of us. The lowest we could drop is 16th, which would have us out. How many teams pass us and how many spots are available is the question.

Root for Clarkson over Harvard, Western Michigan to lose twice, and the favorites to win in Hockey East (NE and UMass) and WCHA (Minnesota State). CHN has us at 95% to get in. That honestly sounds about right, but keep in mind their methods don't calculate how hot a team is at the moment, so they probably underrate Brown.

That being said, Brown's up to 26th in the Pairwise. What a world.

my goal is to take recent play into account in future iterations of the Probability Matrix. Again, this will require someone better at math than I am to help come up with a formula.

FYI - I don't think you noted that WMU plays a Game 3 tonight - and so just that one loss would help as well.

Thanks! I forgot about that makeup game. So, if CC beats WMU, then WMU is out of our way and we only have to worry about CC winning the NCHC. If WMU beats CC, they get a leg up in the pairwise, and we probably need them to lose both of their remaining games for us to stay ahead of them if we lose to Brown.

WMU just lost to CC. Does that mean we're in barring CC winning the NCHC (which would require two major upsets)? WMU looked to be in fairly safe territory to make the NCAAs a month ago. Then they gave up two goals to #1 SCSU in the final three minutes and things went downhill from there. The NCHC is a brutally difficult conference.

Colorado College has beaten Western Michigan. This is good.

It looks like the worst we could do is 15th.

BearLover

Dafatone

adamw

Dafatone
To sum up the numbers-crunching I've done so far (keep in mind that Pairwise is just RPI except in weird exceptional cases):

If we beat Brown, we're almost definitely in. There is a scenario where we aren't, though: If Western Michigan wins the NCHC, BU or BC wins Hockey East, Bowling Green wins the WCHA, AND Sucks beats us in the ECAC finals, we wind up in 14th, with at large bids only going to the top 13. I didn't crunch this for every iteration of Atlantic Hockey, but it's unlikely that changes there would get us the .0017 we need to catch Clarkson in RPI.

If we lose to Brown, we're still in better shape than not, but things start getting hairy. If everything shakes out just wrong, we fall below Providence in RPI. Bowling Green passes us if they win, and maybe still if they lose depending on how other things go. Western Michigan passes us if they win their conference, or if they lose their semi-final game and beat St. Cloud in the third-place game, but not if they beat Denver in a semi-final (though this could change with various other details). If we lose and Harvard loses, it gets very tight between the two of us. The lowest we could drop is 16th, which would have us out. How many teams pass us and how many spots are available is the question.

Root for Clarkson over Harvard, Western Michigan to lose twice, and the favorites to win in Hockey East (NE and UMass) and WCHA (Minnesota State). CHN has us at 95% to get in. That honestly sounds about right, but keep in mind their methods don't calculate how hot a team is at the moment, so they probably underrate Brown.

That being said, Brown's up to 26th in the Pairwise. What a world.

my goal is to take recent play into account in future iterations of the Probability Matrix. Again, this will require someone better at math than I am to help come up with a formula.

FYI - I don't think you noted that WMU plays a Game 3 tonight - and so just that one loss would help as well.

Thanks! I forgot about that makeup game. So, if CC beats WMU, then WMU is out of our way and we only have to worry about CC winning the NCHC. If WMU beats CC, they get a leg up in the pairwise, and we probably need them to lose both of their remaining games for us to stay ahead of them if we lose to Brown.

WMU just lost to CC. Does that mean we're in barring CC winning the NCHC (which would require two major upsets)? WMU looked to be in fairly safe territory to make the NCAAs a month ago. Then they gave up two goals to #1 SCSU in the final three minutes and things went downhill from there. The NCHC is a brutally difficult conference.

I don't think it's quite that neat. Brown winning the ECAC or BU/BC winning Hockey East could threaten us as well.

Dafatone

BearLover

Dafatone

adamw

Dafatone
To sum up the numbers-crunching I've done so far (keep in mind that Pairwise is just RPI except in weird exceptional cases):

If we beat Brown, we're almost definitely in. There is a scenario where we aren't, though: If Western Michigan wins the NCHC, BU or BC wins Hockey East, Bowling Green wins the WCHA, AND Sucks beats us in the ECAC finals, we wind up in 14th, with at large bids only going to the top 13. I didn't crunch this for every iteration of Atlantic Hockey, but it's unlikely that changes there would get us the .0017 we need to catch Clarkson in RPI.

If we lose to Brown, we're still in better shape than not, but things start getting hairy. If everything shakes out just wrong, we fall below Providence in RPI. Bowling Green passes us if they win, and maybe still if they lose depending on how other things go. Western Michigan passes us if they win their conference, or if they lose their semi-final game and beat St. Cloud in the third-place game, but not if they beat Denver in a semi-final (though this could change with various other details). If we lose and Harvard loses, it gets very tight between the two of us. The lowest we could drop is 16th, which would have us out. How many teams pass us and how many spots are available is the question.

Root for Clarkson over Harvard, Western Michigan to lose twice, and the favorites to win in Hockey East (NE and UMass) and WCHA (Minnesota State). CHN has us at 95% to get in. That honestly sounds about right, but keep in mind their methods don't calculate how hot a team is at the moment, so they probably underrate Brown.

That being said, Brown's up to 26th in the Pairwise. What a world.

my goal is to take recent play into account in future iterations of the Probability Matrix. Again, this will require someone better at math than I am to help come up with a formula.

FYI - I don't think you noted that WMU plays a Game 3 tonight - and so just that one loss would help as well.

Thanks! I forgot about that makeup game. So, if CC beats WMU, then WMU is out of our way and we only have to worry about CC winning the NCHC. If WMU beats CC, they get a leg up in the pairwise, and we probably need them to lose both of their remaining games for us to stay ahead of them if we lose to Brown.

WMU just lost to CC. Does that mean we're in barring CC winning the NCHC (which would require two major upsets)? WMU looked to be in fairly safe territory to make the NCAAs a month ago. Then they gave up two goals to #1 SCSU in the final three minutes and things went downhill from there. The NCHC is a brutally difficult conference.

I don't think it's quite that neat. Brown winning the ECAC or BU/BC winning Hockey East could threaten us as well.

Ah, thanks. We could really drop below Prov? Even still, I didn't think this through enough--Brown+BU/BC winning would mean we'd need to be top-13.

EDIT: Yeah, I played around with the CHN "You are the Committee" tool, and it looks like there are still quite a few permutations that would lead to us missing the NCAAs. Seems like the key is Brown not winning the ECAC. Brown winning would not only would take away an at-large spot, but it would boost Providence's ranking because they played each other twice.

You Are The Committee

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adamw
You Are The Committee

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This is slick. Works well on my iPhone. Thanks, Adam.

Dafatone
Root for Clarkson over Harvard,

I realize that the post I am quoting is talking about what it takes to make sure we get into the tourney.

But if we prefer to root for the things that get is as high as possible in the pairwise, I believe we need to root for Harvard (ouch) over Clarkson.

Using Adam's "You Are The Committee" site, and selecting all the favorites, including Clarkson over Harvard, we wind up 8th in pairwise. Switch the Harvard and Clarkson result, so that we beat Harvard in the Championship game (always fun) and we wind up 7th in pairwise.

andyw2100

Dafatone
Root for Clarkson over Harvard,

I realize that the post I am quoting is talking about what it takes to make sure we get into the tourney.

But if we prefer to root for the things that get is as high as possible in the pairwise, I believe we need to root for Harvard (ouch) over Clarkson.

Using Adam's "You Are The Committee" site, and selecting all the favorites, including Clarkson over Harvard, we wind up 8th in pairwise. Switch the Harvard and Clarkson result, so that we beat Harvard in the Championship game (always fun) and we wind up 7th in pairwise.

Absolute best finish is, somehow, 6th. There's a bunch that goes into it, but ND over Penn State and UMass not doing as well in Hockey East helps us against Ohio State. Northeastern losing in the semis or finals helps us pass Northeastern, and Denver would have to lose in both the semis and the consolation game in the NCHC. We pass Clarkson and ASU if we win out.

Dafatone

andyw2100

Dafatone
Root for Clarkson over Harvard,

I realize that the post I am quoting is talking about what it takes to make sure we get into the tourney.

But if we prefer to root for the things that get is as high as possible in the pairwise, I believe we need to root for Harvard (ouch) over Clarkson.

Using Adam's "You Are The Committee" site, and selecting all the favorites, including Clarkson over Harvard, we wind up 8th in pairwise. Switch the Harvard and Clarkson result, so that we beat Harvard in the Championship game (always fun) and we wind up 7th in pairwise.

Absolute best finish is, somehow, 6th. There's a bunch that goes into it, but ND over Penn State and UMass not doing as well in Hockey East helps us against Ohio State. Northeastern losing in the semis or finals helps us pass Northeastern, and Denver would have to lose in both the semis and the consolation game in the NCHC. We pass Clarkson and ASU if we win out.

my interests are more morbid and we can definitely beat brown and still fall to 13th and out

we beat brown and lots of bad has to happen to not get in

we lose to brown and there is still some good that can happen to get in.

basically the higher we want to finish the more we want bad teams to win and our margin of error gets slimmer.

if we win friday it will become pretty clear by nights end just how much chaos we can root for

ugarte

Dafatone

andyw2100

Dafatone
Root for Clarkson over Harvard,

I realize that the post I am quoting is talking about what it takes to make sure we get into the tourney.

But if we prefer to root for the things that get is as high as possible in the pairwise, I believe we need to root for Harvard (ouch) over Clarkson.

Using Adam's "You Are The Committee" site, and selecting all the favorites, including Clarkson over Harvard, we wind up 8th in pairwise. Switch the Harvard and Clarkson result, so that we beat Harvard in the Championship game (always fun) and we wind up 7th in pairwise.

Absolute best finish is, somehow, 6th. There's a bunch that goes into it, but ND over Penn State and UMass not doing as well in Hockey East helps us against Ohio State. Northeastern losing in the semis or finals helps us pass Northeastern, and Denver would have to lose in both the semis and the consolation game in the NCHC. We pass Clarkson and ASU if we win out.

my interests are more morbid and we can definitely beat brown and still fall to 13th and out

Regardless of pairwise.... if they cannot find a way to work past Brown on Friday I will have little confidence in their ability to win games in the NC$$. Our best bet for next week is to have a healthy Big Red team firing on all cylinders and on a 4-game winning streak.

upprdeck
basically the higher we want to finish the more we want bad teams to win and our margin of error gets slimmer.

We wind up seventh with chalk and a single upset of Harvard over Clarkson.

A post on USCHO states that both the CHN and USCHO predictors treat the B1G and WCHA on campus tourney games as neutral site. The poster and I both wonder if this is correct. It, of course, can matter.

KenP

ugarte

Dafatone

andyw2100

Dafatone
Root for Clarkson over Harvard,

I realize that the post I am quoting is talking about what it takes to make sure we get into the tourney.

But if we prefer to root for the things that get is as high as possible in the pairwise, I believe we need to root for Harvard (ouch) over Clarkson.

Using Adam's "You Are The Committee" site, and selecting all the favorites, including Clarkson over Harvard, we wind up 8th in pairwise. Switch the Harvard and Clarkson result, so that we beat Harvard in the Championship game (always fun) and we wind up 7th in pairwise.

Absolute best finish is, somehow, 6th. There's a bunch that goes into it, but ND over Penn State and UMass not doing as well in Hockey East helps us against Ohio State. Northeastern losing in the semis or finals helps us pass Northeastern, and Denver would have to lose in both the semis and the consolation game in the NCHC. We pass Clarkson and ASU if we win out.

my interests are more morbid and we can definitely beat brown and still fall to 13th and out

Regardless of pairwise.... if they cannot find a way to work past Brown on Friday I will have little confidence in their ability to win games in the NC$$. Our best bet for next week is to have a healthy Big Red team firing on all cylinders and on a 4-game in the middle of an 8-game winning streak.

FYP

Bracketology: Last one before March 24 NCAA selection show has Bowling Green in, Western Michigan out

This week’s brackets

West Regional (Fargo):
16 American International vs. 1 St. Cloud State
12 Harvard vs. 6 Denver

Midwest Regional (Allentown):
15 Notre Dame vs. 3 Minnesota State
11 Cornell vs. 7 Ohio State

East Regional (Providence):
14 Providence vs. 4 Minnesota Duluth
10 Arizona State vs. 5 Quinnipiac

Northeast Regional (Manchester):
13 Bowling Green vs. 2 Massachusetts
9 Clarkson vs. 8 Northeastern
Conference breakdowns

ECAC Hockey — 4
Hockey East — 3
NCHC — 3
Big Ten – 2
WCHA — 2
Atlantic Hockey – 1
Independent – 1

Time to feel sorry for Harvard, but isn't there some way we can get Q away from ASU?

Jim Hyla
Bracketology: Last one before March 24 NCAA selection show has Bowling Green in, Western Michigan out

This week’s brackets

West Regional (Fargo):
16 American International vs. 1 St. Cloud State
12 Harvard vs. 6 Denver

Midwest Regional (Allentown):
15 Notre Dame vs. 3 Minnesota State
11 Cornell vs. 7 Ohio State

East Regional (Providence):
14 Providence vs. 4 Minnesota Duluth
10 Arizona State vs. 5 Quinnipiac

Northeast Regional (Manchester):
13 Bowling Green vs. 2 Massachusetts
9 Clarkson vs. 8 Northeastern
Conference breakdowns

ECAC Hockey — 4
Hockey East — 3
NCHC — 3
Big Ten – 2
WCHA — 2
Atlantic Hockey – 1
Independent – 1

Time to feel sorry for Harvard, but isn't there some way we can get Q away from ASU?

The only reason Q got ASU was to prevent an ECAC first round matchup. Because it is extremely unlikely that 3 of the 4 teams that can be seeded against Q will be from our league, this bracket is just a mental bubble gum chew for the nerd in us (me!).

5 won't often be matched with 10.

Jim Hyla
Bracketology: Last one before March 24 NCAA selection show has Bowling Green in, Western Michigan out

This week’s brackets

West Regional (Fargo):
16 American International vs. 1 St. Cloud State
12 Harvard vs. 6 Denver

Midwest Regional (Allentown):
15 Notre Dame vs. 3 Minnesota State
11 Cornell vs. 7 Ohio State

East Regional (Providence):
14 Providence vs. 4 Minnesota Duluth
10 Arizona State vs. 5 Quinnipiac

Northeast Regional (Manchester):
13 Bowling Green vs. 2 Massachusetts
9 Clarkson vs. 8 Northeastern
Conference breakdowns

ECAC Hockey — 4
Hockey East — 3
NCHC — 3
Big Ten – 2
WCHA — 2
Atlantic Hockey – 1
Independent – 1

Time to feel sorry for Harvard, but isn't there some way we can get Q away from ASU?

I would be totally fine with this bracket.

From what I can tell, the Frozen Four bracket projects semifinal matchups of east vs. northeast and west vs. midwest. Does anybody know or recall whether they've messed with that in the past in order to preserve the likelihood of 1 vs. 4 and 2 vs. 3 semifinals should the top seeds prevail in the regionals, or whether it's a strictly set-in-advance thing?

Jim Hyla
Time to feel sorry for Harvard

never

I did, in fact, fix a glitch this morning regarding neutral sites/Big Ten/WCHA ... may have to clear cache to make sure it goes into effect on the user end.

Beeeej

Jim Hyla
Bracketology: Last one before March 24 NCAA selection show has Bowling Green in, Western Michigan out

This week’s brackets

West Regional (Fargo):
16 American International vs. 1 St. Cloud State
12 Harvard vs. 6 Denver

Midwest Regional (Allentown):
15 Notre Dame vs. 3 Minnesota State
11 Cornell vs. 7 Ohio State

East Regional (Providence):
14 Providence vs. 4 Minnesota Duluth
10 Arizona State vs. 5 Quinnipiac

Northeast Regional (Manchester):
13 Bowling Green vs. 2 Massachusetts
9 Clarkson vs. 8 Northeastern
Conference breakdowns

ECAC Hockey — 4
Hockey East — 3
NCHC — 3
Big Ten – 2
WCHA — 2
Atlantic Hockey – 1
Independent – 1

Time to feel sorry for Harvard, but isn't there some way we can get Q away from ASU?

I would be totally fine with this bracket.

From what I can tell, the Frozen Four bracket projects semifinal matchups of east vs. northeast and west vs. midwest. Does anybody know or recall whether they've messed with that in the past in order to preserve the likelihood of 1 vs. 4 and 2 vs. 3 semifinals should the top seeds prevail in the regionals, or whether it's a strictly set-in-advance thing?

Pretty sure they do 1-4 and 2-3 rather than fixed regional locations.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Beeeej

Jim Hyla
Bracketology: Last one before March 24 NCAA selection show has Bowling Green in, Western Michigan out

This week’s brackets

West Regional (Fargo):
16 American International vs. 1 St. Cloud State
12 Harvard vs. 6 Denver

Midwest Regional (Allentown):
15 Notre Dame vs. 3 Minnesota State
11 Cornell vs. 7 Ohio State

East Regional (Providence):
14 Providence vs. 4 Minnesota Duluth
10 Arizona State vs. 5 Quinnipiac

Northeast Regional (Manchester):
13 Bowling Green vs. 2 Massachusetts
9 Clarkson vs. 8 Northeastern
Conference breakdowns

ECAC Hockey — 4
Hockey East — 3
NCHC — 3
Big Ten – 2
WCHA — 2
Atlantic Hockey – 1
Independent – 1

Time to feel sorry for Harvard, but isn't there some way we can get Q away from ASU?

I would be totally fine with this bracket.

From what I can tell, the Frozen Four bracket projects semifinal matchups of east vs. northeast and west vs. midwest. Does anybody know or recall whether they've messed with that in the past in order to preserve the likelihood of 1 vs. 4 and 2 vs. 3 semifinals should the top seeds prevail in the regionals, or whether it's a strictly set-in-advance thing?

Pretty sure they do 1-4 and 2-3 rather than fixed regional locations.

Yes, it's bracketed based upon the regions where the overall top 4 seeds are, and has been since 2004. Basketball now does the same thing.

BU and Northeastern are in overtime. A win by the Terriers would help us out.

KenP
BU and Northeastern are in overtime. A win by the Terriers would help us out.

I'm rooting for the scenarios where Union gets an at-large bid, considering some of their players have already signed pro contracts. Luckily, this requires us winning tomorrow. Northeastern has to win to get there as well.

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Northeastern wins and st. cloud is burying CC.

ugarte
Northeastern wins and st. cloud is burying CC.

With Northeastern's win I believe Cornell will make its third NCAA in a row, a first under Schafer. Funny to think back now on all the griping (mine included) when the team missed out on the NCAAs for four years straight preceding this current run.

RichH
I'm rooting for the scenarios where Union gets an at-large bid, considering some of their players have already signed pro contracts. Luckily, this requires us winning tomorrow. Northeastern has to win to get there as well.

So boneheaded! This result would be hilarious.

RichH

I'm rooting for the scenarios where Union gets an at-large bid, considering some of their players have already signed pro contracts. Luckily, this requires us winning tomorrow. Northeastern has to win to get there as well.

Well, that would be hilarious. Do any of those scenarios result in 5 ECAC teams in?

BearLover

ugarte
Northeastern wins and st. cloud is burying CC.

With Northeastern's win I believe Cornell will make its third NCAA in a row, a first under Schafer. Funny to think back now on all the griping (mine included) when the team missed out on the NCAAs for four years straight preceding this current run.

I'd also like to take this opportunity to tell everyone who insisted that we couldn't possibly get an at-large bid when we were 5-5 that they were wrong.

Now let's go get an automatic bid and not an at-large one.

multiple shots to get to 7 seed. PSU losing would help since it keeps them out of allentown too.

upprdeck
multiple shots to get to 7 seed. PSU losing would help since it keeps them out of allentown too.

Basically...

If we win and Northeastern and Denver both lose (or Denver ties), we get to 7. If either one of those two win, we get 8. If they both win, we get 9.

We lose, and we're 11 in most cases, except if Bowling Green beats Mankato. Then BG gets 11 and we're 12.

Jeff Hopkins '82

upprdeck
multiple shots to get to 7 seed. PSU losing would help since it keeps them out of allentown too.

Basically...

If we win and Northeastern and Denver both lose (or Denver ties), we get to 7. If either one of those two win, we get 8. If they both win, we get 9.

We lose, and we're 11 in most cases, except if Bowling Green beats Mankato. Then BG gets 11 and we're 12.

Thanks

So Harvard is in right? 4 ECAC teams guaranteed.

What is the scenario for union to get in? NE, ND, Minn St wins???

CU2007
So Harvard is in right? 4 ECAC teams guaranteed.

What is the scenario for union to get in? NE, ND, Minn St wins???

It's the first time since The Divorce that the ECAC got 4 teams in.

With BC's upset of UMass, Union has been eliminated. UMass & Northeastern had to play in the HEA Final, but BC's win pushed Providence out of reach of Union. I bet Bennett exhaled just a little bit.

CU2007
So Harvard is in right? 4 ECAC teams guaranteed.

What is the scenario for union to get in? NE, ND, Minn St wins???

Looks like Harvard is in and Union is out. The team that is sweating today’s results that can’t punch its own ticket is Providence.

Jeff Hopkins '82

upprdeck
multiple shots to get to 7 seed. PSU losing would help since it keeps them out of allentown too.

Basically...

If we win and Northeastern and Denver both lose (or Denver ties), we get to 7. If either one of those two win, we get 8. If they both win, we get 9.

We lose, and we're 11 in most cases, except if Bowling Green beats Mankato. Then BG gets 11 and we're 12.

Please no 8 or 9. Fargo gets 8 and 9 unless they are both from the same conference.

marty

Jeff Hopkins '82

upprdeck
multiple shots to get to 7 seed. PSU losing would help since it keeps them out of allentown too.

Basically...

If we win and Northeastern and Denver both lose (or Denver ties), we get to 7. If either one of those two win, we get 8. If they both win, we get 9.

We lose, and we're 11 in most cases, except if Bowling Green beats Mankato. Then BG gets 11 and we're 12.

Please no 8 or 9. Fargo gets 8 and 9 unless they are both from the same conference.

According to playoffstatus we are 8-9 if we win or 11-12 if we lose.

so if the rules say bracket integrity matters and they want 1-4 2-3.. why is that always thrown out the window for distance the first thing when the brackets are created in the mocks?

marty

Jeff Hopkins '82

upprdeck
multiple shots to get to 7 seed. PSU losing would help since it keeps them out of allentown too.

Basically...

If we win and Northeastern and Denver both lose (or Denver ties), we get to 7. If either one of those two win, we get 8. If they both win, we get 9.

We lose, and we're 11 in most cases, except if Bowling Green beats Mankato. Then BG gets 11 and we're 12.

Please no 8 or 9. Fargo gets 8 and 9 unless they are both from the same conference.

They won't be. If we're 8 or 9, Clarkson will drop well below us and Quinny will be above us.

We win and we may be off to Fargo? Hopefully some juggling goes on.

PC isn't the host in Providence, correct? At a 3 seed, if they make NCAAs, is PC a lock to stay in Providence regardless?

I don't know about everyone else, but if winning the ECACs gets us sent to Fargo, while losing tonight gets us closer to home, I'd rather have the ECAC title even if it means most of us won't get to watch the NCAA games next weekend in person. After all, we haven't wont the ECACS since 2010. It's time to end the drought!

[Disregard - I find the answer but not how to delete a post!]

RatushnyFan
[Disregard - I find the answer but not how to delete a post!]

Guessing you also figured out how to delete a post, since the post with the question seems to be gone...

Jeff Hopkins '82

marty

Jeff Hopkins '82

upprdeck
multiple shots to get to 7 seed. PSU losing would help since it keeps them out of allentown too.

Basically...

If we win and Northeastern and Denver both lose (or Denver ties), we get to 7. If either one of those two win, we get 8. If they both win, we get 9.

We lose, and we're 11 in most cases, except if Bowling Green beats Mankato. Then BG gets 11 and we're 12.

Please no 8 or 9. Fargo gets 8 and 9 unless they are both from the same conference.

They won't be. If we're 8 or 9, Clarkson will drop well below us and Quinny will be above us.

Using the CHN "You Are The Committee" site, having all the higher seeds except Denver win, gets us in 8th and Clarkson in 9th. Switching that up and having BU beat Northeastern gets us 7th and Clarkson 8th.

andyw2100

Jeff Hopkins '82

marty

Jeff Hopkins '82

upprdeck
multiple shots to get to 7 seed. PSU losing would help since it keeps them out of allentown too.

Basically...

If we win and Northeastern and Denver both lose (or Denver ties), we get to 7. If either one of those two win, we get 8. If they both win, we get 9.

We lose, and we're 11 in most cases, except if Bowling Green beats Mankato. Then BG gets 11 and we're 12.

Please no 8 or 9. Fargo gets 8 and 9 unless they are both from the same conference.

They won't be. If we're 8 or 9, Clarkson will drop well below us and Quinny will be above us.

Using the CHN "You Are The Committee" site, having all the higher seeds except Denver win, gets us in 8th and Clarkson in 9th. Switching that up and having BU beat Northeastern gets us 7th and Clarkson 8th.

OK, mea culpa.

dbilmes
I don't know about everyone else, but if winning the ECACs gets us sent to Fargo, while losing tonight gets us closer to home, I'd rather have the ECAC title even if it means most of us won't get to watch the NCAA games next weekend in person. After all, we haven't wont the ECACS since 2010. It's time to end the drought!

I agree with that sentiment. Let's win in Placid and let the chips fall...

Jeff Hopkins '82

dbilmes
I don't know about everyone else, but if winning the ECACs gets us sent to Fargo, while losing tonight gets us closer to home, I'd rather have the ECAC title even if it means most of us won't get to watch the NCAA games next weekend in person. After all, we haven't wont the ECACS since 2010. It's time to end the drought!

I agree with that sentiment. Let's win in Placid and let the chips fall...

+1

andyw2100

Jeff Hopkins '82

dbilmes
I don't know about everyone else, but if winning the ECACs gets us sent to Fargo, while losing tonight gets us closer to home, I'd rather have the ECAC title even if it means most of us won't get to watch the NCAA games next weekend in person. After all, we haven't wont the ECACS since 2010. It's time to end the drought!

I agree with that sentiment. Let's win in Placid and let the chips fall...

+1

agreed. I care more about winning NCAA than winning ECAC but I care much more about winning ECAC than seeding considerations once we're already in.

ugarte

andyw2100

Jeff Hopkins '82

dbilmes
I don't know about everyone else, but if winning the ECACs gets us sent to Fargo, while losing tonight gets us closer to home, I'd rather have the ECAC title even if it means most of us won't get to watch the NCAA games next weekend in person. After all, we haven't wont the ECACS since 2010. It's time to end the drought!

I agree with that sentiment. Let's win in Placid and let the chips fall...

+1

agreed. I care more about winning NCAA than winning ECAC but I care much more about winning ECAC than seeding considerations once we're already in.

I have a better idea. Let's all chip in and pay off the committee to send the team to a venue we prefer. If rich kids can get into Yale by bribing university officials, surely we can come up with a bribe that would get our guys into Providence (or even Allentown).

Swampy

ugarte

andyw2100

Jeff Hopkins '82

dbilmes
I don't know about everyone else, but if winning the ECACs gets us sent to Fargo, while losing tonight gets us closer to home, I'd rather have the ECAC title even if it means most of us won't get to watch the NCAA games next weekend in person. After all, we haven't wont the ECACS since 2010. It's time to end the drought!

I agree with that sentiment. Let's win in Placid and let the chips fall...

+1

agreed. I care more about winning NCAA than winning ECAC but I care much more about winning ECAC than seeding considerations once we're already in.

I have a better idea. Let's all chip in and pay off the committee to send the team to a venue we prefer. If rich kids can get into Yale by bribing university officials, surely we can come up with a bribe that would get our guys into Providence (or even Allentown).

What does hosting entail? I have to figure that ultimately, it's just paying up. Let's host in Providence or Allentown, or maybe try to put a regional in some upstate NY town.

we could host anytime we wanted in albany or buffalo. but it requires some effort from the AD and the staff to organize things..

upprdeck
we could host anytime we wanted in albany or buffalo. but it requires some effort from the AD and the staff to organize things..

For a regional, Rochester is probably easier than Buffalo. Someone should find out what it takes.

Jim Hyla

upprdeck
we could host anytime we wanted in albany or buffalo. but it requires some effort from the AD and the staff to organize things..

For a regional, Rochester is probably easier than Buffalo. Someone should find out what it takes.

Syracuse and Binghamton also have big enough rinks, right?

i thought they had to be 10k or more to qualify

upprdeck
i thought they had to be 10k or more to qualify

More than that. Albany is now too small.

marty

upprdeck
i thought they had to be 10k or more to qualify

More than that. Albany is now too small.

It is? Albany seats 14,000. The regional site in Fargo only seats 5,000 for hockey. Allentown seats 9,000.

Unless you mean for Frozen Four sites.

perhaps you are right thats its much lower than a final 4 requirement.

RichH

marty

upprdeck
i thought they had to be 10k or more to qualify

More than that. Albany is now too small.

It is? Albany seats 14,000. The regional site in Fargo only seats 5,000 for hockey. Allentown seats 9,000.

Unless you mean for Frozen Four sites.

Sorry. I meant Frozen Four and the topic was regionals. I'm under the weather and hope to get my marbles back soon.

So.... looking at CHN PWR... the 2 and 3 seeds look like a natural split - 5-12, 6-11, 7-10, 8-9. No 1st round conflicts. Unless they really screw around for travel reasons we are #11 against #6 Northeastern.

Only question is which venue....

ugarte

Jim Hyla

upprdeck
we could host anytime we wanted in albany or buffalo. but it requires some effort from the AD and the staff to organize things..

For a regional, Rochester is probably easier than Buffalo. Someone should find out what it takes.

Syracuse and Binghamton also have big enough rinks, right?

Bing is definitely too small, under 5K. By some standards Syr is big enough, over 6K, but from my point of view, Rochester is better.

Makott tore his ACL per Schafer.

(Sorry, meant for this to be on the game thread)

Jim Hyla

ugarte

Jim Hyla

upprdeck
we could host anytime we wanted in albany or buffalo. but it requires some effort from the AD and the staff to organize things..

For a regional, Rochester is probably easier than Buffalo. Someone should find out what it takes.

Syracuse and Binghamton also have big enough rinks, right?

Bing is definitely too small, under 5K. By some standards Syr is big enough, over 6K, but from my point of view, Rochester is better.

Mine too, since I could walk to the rink from my house. :D

KenP
So.... looking at CHN PWR... the 2 and 3 seeds look like a natural split - 5-12, 6-11, 7-10, 8-9. No 1st round conflicts. Unless they really screw around for travel reasons we are #11 against #6 Northeastern.

Only question is which venue....

We're likely in Providence vs. NE
Whoever ends up 3rd in pairwise after the NCHC OT game finishes will likely play Providence.

In Manchester it will be UMass vs Harvard and Clarkson vs Notre Dame unless the committee moves ND to Allentown.

Allentown will be number2 vs Bowling Green & QPeck vs OSU

Fargo will be number 1 vs AIC & Denver vs ASU.

scoop85
Makott tore his ACL per Schafer.

(Sorry, meant for this to be on the game thread)

Wow. Well that sucks.

marty

KenP
So.... looking at CHN PWR... the 2 and 3 seeds look like a natural split - 5-12, 6-11, 7-10, 8-9. No 1st round conflicts. Unless they really screw around for travel reasons we are #11 against #6 Northeastern.

Only question is which venue....

We're likely in Providence vs. NE
Whoever ends up 3rd in pairwise after the NCHC OT game finishes will likely play Providence.

In Manchester it will be UMass vs Harvard and Clarkson vs Notre Dame unless the committee moves ND to Allentown.

Allentown will be number2 vs Bowling Green & QPeck vs OSU

Fargo will be number 1 vs AIC & Denver vs ASU.

Not quite.

If Duluth beats St.Cloud, Duluth finishes #2 and they get #15 BGSU (probably in Allentown) and since UMass can't play Providence, Mankato gets Providence and UMass gets Harvard. But if St.Cloud beats Duluth, Duluth drops to #4 and Mankato is #2. Mankato can't play #15 BGSU, so likely Mankato gets Harvard, UMass gets BGSU, and Duluth gets Providence.

As said above, we get Northeastern. The only question is where. I think it depends on which game the committee thinks will be a better draw in Allentown - QPac-ASU, NEastern-Cornell, or Clarkson-Notre Dame.

Edit: And Duluth wins.

Jeff Hopkins '82

marty

KenP
So.... looking at CHN PWR... the 2 and 3 seeds look like a natural split - 5-12, 6-11, 7-10, 8-9. No 1st round conflicts. Unless they really screw around for travel reasons we are #11 against #6 Northeastern.

Only question is which venue....

We're likely in Providence vs. NE
Whoever ends up 3rd in pairwise after the NCHC OT game finishes will likely play Providence.

In Manchester it will be UMass vs Harvard and Clarkson vs Notre Dame unless the committee moves ND to Allentown.

Allentown will be number2 vs Bowling Green & QPeck vs OSU

Fargo will be number 1 vs AIC & Denver vs ASU.

Not quite.

If Duluth beats St.Cloud, Duluth finishes #2 and they get #15 BGSU (probably in Allentown) and since UMass can't play Providence, Mankato gets Providence and UMass gets Harvard. But if St.Cloud beats Duluth, Duluth drops to #4 and Mankato is #2. Mankato can't play #15 BGSU, so likely Mankato gets Harvard, UMass gets BGSU, and Duluth gets Providence.

As said above, we get Northeastern. The only question is where. I think it depends on which game the committee thinks will be a better draw - QPac-ASU, NEastern-Cornell, or Clarkson-Notre Dame.

Edit: And Duluth wins.

Don't you think tOSU will be moved to Allentown and ASU will go to Fargo?

Here's Adam's

Fargo
1. St. Cloud State vs. 16. American International
8. Denver vs. 9. Ohio State

Allentown
2. Minnesota-Duluth vs. 15. Bowling Green
7. Quinnipiac vs. 10. Arizona State

Providence
3. Minnesota State vs. 14. Providence
6. Northeastern vs. 11. Cornell

Manchester
4. Massachusetts vs. 13. Harvard
5. Clarkson vs. 12. Notre Dame

and USCHO

West Regional (Fargo):
16 American International vs. 1 St. Cloud State
9 Ohio State vs. 8 Denver

Midwest Regional (Allentown):
15 Bowling Green vs. 2 Minnesota Duluth
10 Arizona State vs. 7 Quinnipiac

East Regional (Providence):
14 Providence vs. 3 Minnesota State
11 Cornell vs. 6 Northeastern

Northeast Regional (Manchester):
13 Harvard vs. 4 Massachusetts
12 Notre Dame vs. 5 Clarkson

marty

Jeff Hopkins '82

marty

KenP
So.... looking at CHN PWR... the 2 and 3 seeds look like a natural split - 5-12, 6-11, 7-10, 8-9. No 1st round conflicts. Unless they really screw around for travel reasons we are #11 against #6 Northeastern.

Only question is which venue....

We're likely in Providence vs. NE
Whoever ends up 3rd in pairwise after the NCHC OT game finishes will likely play Providence.

In Manchester it will be UMass vs Harvard and Clarkson vs Notre Dame unless the committee moves ND to Allentown.

Allentown will be number2 vs Bowling Green & QPeck vs OSU

Fargo will be number 1 vs AIC & Denver vs ASU.

Not quite.

If Duluth beats St.Cloud, Duluth finishes #2 and they get #15 BGSU (probably in Allentown) and since UMass can't play Providence, Mankato gets Providence and UMass gets Harvard. But if St.Cloud beats Duluth, Duluth drops to #4 and Mankato is #2. Mankato can't play #15 BGSU, so likely Mankato gets Harvard, UMass gets BGSU, and Duluth gets Providence.

As said above, we get Northeastern. The only question is where. I think it depends on which game the committee thinks will be a better draw - QPac-ASU, NEastern-Cornell, or Clarkson-Notre Dame.

Edit: And Duluth wins.

Don't you think tOSU will be moved to Allentown and ASU will go to Fargo?

Don't know. It depends on what "bracket integrity" means. If that means they keep 5-12, 6-11, etc. intact and they move the pairs around, then I think the 8-9 pairing stays intact in Fargo. If bracket integrity simply means that they can move the 3 seeds anywhere as they see fit, then yeah, they can swap OSU and ASU as you suggest.

Personally, if I were on the committee, I could see either NEastern-Cornell or Clarkson-Notre Dame getting swapped to Allentown. I think the better choice for overall attendance is to swap NE-CU, since that puts at least two eastern schools in Allentown and two in Providence, but I can also see them putting Clarkson-Notre Dame there since Notre Dame is a midwestern school and they can rationalize the name of the regional.

But either way, I don't see much likelihood in us going to Fargo, which is just fine with me.

Way more Cornell fans in Allentown vs Providence IMO. The NYC alumni can get to Allentown easily, won’t bother going to providence. MAKE IT HAPPEN NC$$

Win two at the Dunk to earn a trip to Buffalo? With Minnesota State in the same regional?

Seems like a novel idea.

Women lose to clarkson in ecac final. Play northeastern in NCAAs. Men lose to clarkson in ecac final, play northeastern in NCAAs too? Weird.

Jeff Hopkins '82

marty

Jeff Hopkins '82

marty

KenP
So.... looking at CHN PWR... the 2 and 3 seeds look like a natural split - 5-12, 6-11, 7-10, 8-9. No 1st round conflicts. Unless they really screw around for travel reasons we are #11 against #6 Northeastern.

Only question is which venue....

We're likely in Providence vs. NE
Whoever ends up 3rd in pairwise after the NCHC OT game finishes will likely play Providence.

In Manchester it will be UMass vs Harvard and Clarkson vs Notre Dame unless the committee moves ND to Allentown.

Allentown will be number2 vs Bowling Green & QPeck vs OSU

Fargo will be number 1 vs AIC & Denver vs ASU.

Not quite.

If Duluth beats St.Cloud, Duluth finishes #2 and they get #15 BGSU (probably in Allentown) and since UMass can't play Providence, Mankato gets Providence and UMass gets Harvard. But if St.Cloud beats Duluth, Duluth drops to #4 and Mankato is #2. Mankato can't play #15 BGSU, so likely Mankato gets Harvard, UMass gets BGSU, and Duluth gets Providence.

As said above, we get Northeastern. The only question is where. I think it depends on which game the committee thinks will be a better draw - QPac-ASU, NEastern-Cornell, or Clarkson-Notre Dame.

Edit: And Duluth wins.

Don't you think tOSU will be moved to Allentown and ASU will go to Fargo?

Don't know. It depends on what "bracket integrity" means. If that means they keep 5-12, 6-11, etc. intact and they move the pairs around, then I think the 8-9 pairing stays intact in Fargo. If bracket integrity simply means that they can move the 3 seeds anywhere as they see fit, then yeah, they can swap OSU and ASU as you suggest.

Personally, if I were on the committee, I could see either NEastern-Cornell or Clarkson-Notre Dame getting swapped to Allentown. I think the better choice for overall attendance is to swap NE-CU, since that puts at least two eastern schools in Allentown and two in Providence, but I can also see them putting Clarkson-Notre Dame there since Notre Dame is a midwestern school and they can rationalize the name of the regional.

But either way, I don't see much likelihood in us going to Fargo, which is just fine with me.

It's interesting that Adam and Jason have identical brackets. You have ND as a possible Allentown bracket and I have tOSU there. I think one of those teams will be there.

It's a tOSUp.

marty
It's a tOSUp.

Marty.

Harvard @ Cornell national title game, anyone?

so from Jason Bracket article if attendance is a concern and it always is..

in the west fargo is pretty solid
in the east you ave cornell/Ne and prov all will have decent followings

in the midwest. Ariz st will bring few, Quin doesnt really travel. not sure bow many BG or MD will bring
in the NE should have solid attendance

but if crowds are wanted not sure why you wouldn't flip cornell/NE and Ari/Quin


West Regional (Fargo):
16 American International vs. 1 St. Cloud State
9 Ohio State vs. 8 Denver

Midwest Regional (Allentown):
15 Bowling Green vs. 2 Minnesota Duluth
10 Arizona State vs. 7 Quinnipiac

East Regional (Providence):
14 Providence vs. 3 Minnesota State
11 Cornell vs. 6 Northeastern

Northeast Regional (Manchester):
13 Harvard vs. 4 Massachusetts
12 Notre Dame vs. 5 Clarkson

Yes, from an attendance perspective it makes sense. But if we beat Northeastern I would rather face Minnesota State or Providence than Duluth.

I find it funny that for the 3rd straight year Cornell is going to face a HE team in the regionals and those are the teams that seemingly everybody in the conference except for Cornell has been playing OOC games against in recent years

upprdeck
so from Jason Bracket article if attendance is a concern and it always is..

in the west fargo is pretty solid
in the east you ave cornell/Ne and prov all will have decent followings

in the midwest. Ariz st will bring few, Quin doesnt really travel. not sure bow many BG or MD will bring
in the NE should have solid attendance

but if crowds are wanted not sure why you wouldn't flip cornell/NE and Ari/Quin


West Regional (Fargo):
16 American International vs. 1 St. Cloud State
9 Ohio State vs. 8 Denver

Midwest Regional (Allentown):
15 Bowling Green vs. 2 Minnesota Duluth
10 Arizona State vs. 7 Quinnipiac

East Regional (Providence):
14 Providence vs. 3 Minnesota State
11 Cornell vs. 6 Northeastern

Northeast Regional (Manchester):
13 Harvard vs. 4 Massachusetts
12 Notre Dame vs. 5 Clarkson

I still like the idea of switching ASU & tOSU. Probably doesn't increase Allentown attendance that much, but it is an easier drive from Columbus and I'd assume there are more tOSU grads in eastern cities than ASU grads. I don't think attendance to Fargo is a problem, as I expect it was sold out, or close to, already. But, because of N Dakota's recent troubles, I might be wrong on that. It's a small venue, so probably okay.

Just curious where would we most likely be playing had they won last night?

KenP
Just curious where would we most likely be playing had they won last night?

Still wish we had WON!

No changes

And they kept it simple...We're in Providence.

Vs. Northeastern in Providence it is. But the bracket is about as good as we could hope for. Northeastern is really good, but we have a puncher’s chance. And as someone mentioned if we get by the 1st game we wouldn’t have to deal with Duluth.

Jim Hyla
No changes

Jason's terse bracket was correct if boring. At least Adam added some color to his analysis.

marty

Jim Hyla
No changes

Jason's terse bracket was correct if boring. At least Adam added some color to his analysis.

Jason seems to take previous posts and edits them. He often leaves in vestiges of those previous posts.

ursusminor

marty

Jim Hyla
No changes

Jason's terse bracket was correct if boring. At least Adam added some color to his analysis.

Jason seems to take previous posts and edits them. He often leaves in vestiges of those previous posts.

Thanks to both of them for teaching us how this works.

More of this please

Iceberg
I find it funny that for the 3rd straight year Cornell is going to face a HE team in the regionals and those are the teams that seemingly everybody in the conference except for Cornell has been playing OOC games against in recent years

You must not have gotten this message.

scoop85
More of this please

My son was 9 months old and I woke him up yelling when Barlow scored that goal and I reminded my wife of it when I watched that clip and let me tell you she is not even a little less mad about it.

ugarte

scoop85
More of this please

My son was 9 months old and I woke him up yelling when Barlow scored that goal and I reminded my wife of it when I watched that clip and let me tell you she is not even a little less mad about it.

You mean my wife isn’t the only one who thinks screaming at the tube during a Cornell game is insane?