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Clarkson wins.

So, North Dakota gets in if they win their consolation game AND Clarkson wins AND the winner of Northeastern and Providence beats BU.

Dafatone
So, North Dakota gets in if they win their consolation game AND Clarkson wins AND the winner of Northeastern and Providence beats BU.

But I assume the selection committee would send one of the western teams (ND/Ohio State) west to play them?

Isn't Denver about to push us to #5 in the computer rankings?

BearLover

Dafatone
So, North Dakota gets in if they win their consolation game AND Clarkson wins AND the winner of Northeastern and Providence beats BU.

But I assume the selection committee would send one of the western teams (ND/Ohio State) west to play them?

If the 1s are scsu, notre dame, osu, cornell and the 4s are Minnesota, North Dakota, WCHA, AHA, I think Cornell would go west. Top two would get the autobids and osu can't play Minnesota.

marty
Isn't Denver about to push us to #5 in the computer rankings?

They're too far behind us, believe it or not.

Beeeej

marty
Isn't Denver about to push us to #5 in the computer rankings?

They're too far behind us, believe it or not.

Good news unless it leads to Sioux Falls.

marty

Beeeej

marty
Isn't Denver about to push us to #5 in the computer rankings?

They're too far behind us, believe it or not.

Good news unless it leads to Sioux Falls.

Yup. Root for Princeton, Minnesota-Duluth, and/or (not)BU.

Chris '03

BearLover

Dafatone
So, North Dakota gets in if they win their consolation game AND Clarkson wins AND the winner of Northeastern and Providence beats BU.

But I assume the selection committee would send one of the western teams (ND/Ohio State) west to play them?

If the 1s are scsu, notre dame, osu, cornell and the 4s are Minnesota, North Dakota, WCHA, AHA, I think Cornell would go west. Top two would get the autobids and osu can't play Minnesota.

What does OSU not playing Minnesota have to do with Cornell going west? OSU not playing Minnesota means OSU would play NoDak and therefore go west instead of us, who play Minnesota, right?

Beeeej

marty

Beeeej

marty
Isn't Denver about to push us to #5 in the computer rankings?

They're too far behind us, believe it or not.

Good news unless it leads to Sioux Falls.

Yup. Root for Princeton, Minnesota-Duluth, and/or (not)BU.

Doesn’t a BU win take away another at-large slot, meaning NoDak gets bounced?

RichH

Beeeej

marty

Beeeej

marty
Isn't Denver about to push us to #5 in the computer rankings?

They're too far behind us, believe it or not.

Good news unless it leads to Sioux Falls.

Yup. Root for Princeton, Minnesota-Duluth, and/or (not)BU.

Doesn’t a BU win take away another at-large slot, meaning NoDak gets bounced?

Sorry, I had that backwards. Yes, root for BU.

BearLover

Chris '03

BearLover

Dafatone
So, North Dakota gets in if they win their consolation game AND Clarkson wins AND the winner of Northeastern and Providence beats BU.

But I assume the selection committee would send one of the western teams (ND/Ohio State) west to play them?

If the 1s are scsu, notre dame, osu, cornell and the 4s are Minnesota, North Dakota, WCHA, AHA, I think Cornell would go west. Top two would get the autobids and osu can't play Minnesota.

What does OSU not playing Minnesota have to do with Cornell going west? OSU not playing Minnesota means OSU would play NoDak and therefore go west instead of us, who play Minnesota, right?

Yes. I'm going to go back to sleep now or something.

prov/prin/minn dul/Nor Mich knocks out ND/BC/BU isnt that even better?

To summarize, it looks like NoDak gets in if NoDak, Clarkson, and Providence win. If NoDak gets in and Ohio State wins, we (likely) wind up in Sioux Falls.

I say likely because I'm not 100% certain they won't pull some sort of rabbit out of a hat to avoid that.

Dafatone
To summarize, it looks like NoDak gets in if NoDak, Clarkson, and Providence win. If NoDak gets in and Ohio State wins, we (likely) wind up in Sioux Falls.

I say likely because I'm not 100% certain they won't pull some sort of rabbit out of a hat to avoid that.

In 2005 and 2006 there were no rabbits just dead half eaten crows.

Dafatone
To summarize, it looks like NoDak gets in if NoDak, Clarkson, and Providence win. If NoDak gets in and Ohio State wins, we (likely) wind up in Sioux Falls.

I say likely because I'm not 100% certain they won't pull some sort of rabbit out of a hat to avoid that.

Why would we end up in Sioux Falls and not Ohio State/Note Dame?

BearLover

Dafatone
To summarize, it looks like NoDak gets in if NoDak, Clarkson, and Providence win. If NoDak gets in and Ohio State wins, we (likely) wind up in Sioux Falls.

I say likely because I'm not 100% certain they won't pull some sort of rabbit out of a hat to avoid that.

Why would we end up in Sioux Falls and not Ohio State/Note Dame?

That's a good point. I figure if we wind up in 4th, we get the least preferential regional, Not a lot of sense in sending Notre Dame or Ohio State to Worcester or Bridgeport, I suppose.

On a related note, Allentown isn't Midwest.

Dafatone

BearLover

Dafatone
To summarize, it looks like NoDak gets in if NoDak, Clarkson, and Providence win. If NoDak gets in and Ohio State wins, we (likely) wind up in Sioux Falls.

I say likely because I'm not 100% certain they won't pull some sort of rabbit out of a hat to avoid that.

Why would we end up in Sioux Falls and not Ohio State/Note Dame?

That's a good point. I figure if we wind up in 4th, we get the least preferential regional, Not a lot of sense in sending Notre Dame or Ohio State to Worcester or Bridgeport, I suppose.

On a related note, Allentown isn't Midwest.

No, but it is close to South Bend. Ugh.

Dafatone

BearLover

Dafatone
To summarize, it looks like NoDak gets in if NoDak, Clarkson, and Providence win. If NoDak gets in and Ohio State wins, we (likely) wind up in Sioux Falls.

I say likely because I'm not 100% certain they won't pull some sort of rabbit out of a hat to avoid that.

Why would we end up in Sioux Falls and not Ohio State/Note Dame?

That's a good point. I figure if we wind up in 4th, we get the least preferential regional, Not a lot of sense in sending Notre Dame or Ohio State to Worcester or Bridgeport, I suppose.

On a related note, Allentown isn't Midwest.

There will only be one eastern 1-seed this year. So why send them to the only western regional if not doing so would mess up the "serpentine order" (1v16, 2v15, etc.) only marginally or not at all?

BearLover

Dafatone

BearLover

Dafatone
To summarize, it looks like NoDak gets in if NoDak, Clarkson, and Providence win. If NoDak gets in and Ohio State wins, we (likely) wind up in Sioux Falls.

I say likely because I'm not 100% certain they won't pull some sort of rabbit out of a hat to avoid that.

Why would we end up in Sioux Falls and not Ohio State/Note Dame?

That's a good point. I figure if we wind up in 4th, we get the least preferential regional, Not a lot of sense in sending Notre Dame or Ohio State to Worcester or Bridgeport, I suppose.

On a related note, Allentown isn't Midwest.

There will only be one eastern 1-seed this year. So why send them to the only western regional if not doing so would mess up the "serpentine order" (1v16, 2v15, etc.) only marginally or not at all?

I guess I wonder if we finish 4th (and the big10 teams get preference over us), one likely goes to the Allentown Midwest regional. St cloud can't play NoDak in the first round, so they have to go east. Or maybe to that Allentown regional (which is basically east).

So the question is, does the committee think that an eastern regional or a western regional is more "home" to OSU and ND?

Might be a bigger risk if DU wins and gets a 1 seed. neither DU or SCSU can plan North Dakota. So would they send Notre Dame there? even still, I can't imagine the NCAA sending the only #1 seed that can bus to a regional out west.

redGrinch
Might be a bigger risk if DU wins and gets a 1 seed. neither DU or SCSU can plan North Dakota. So would they send Notre Dame there? even still, I can't imagine the NCAA sending the only #1 seed that can bus to a regional out west.

Playing with the You Are the Committee tool, I don't think Denver can pass OSU. They can come really, really close, though.

Dafatone

So the question is, does the committee think that an eastern regional or a western regional is more "home" to OSU and ND?

I would think Notre Dame to Sioux Falls. Their campus is about halfway between Sioux Falls and Allentown. Ohio State is significantly closer to Allentown so they make more sense there. Then doesn’t really matter if St Cloud is in Worcester or Bridgeport. I’d say put them in Worcester because it makes more sense for Cornell to be East than Northeast. Even if they’re the last #1 seed it still does something for them.

Of course if Denver knocks Cornell to the #5 spot, none of that matters.

Edit: Was forgetting about the whole Penn State in Allentown thing so never mind most of what I just said :-p
Except the part of thinking it makes most sense for Notre Dame to go to Sioux Falls.

[quote="Josh 03”]
Of course if Denver knocks Cornell to the #5 spot, none of that matters.[/quote] It is mathematically impossible for Cornell to be #5. They will be 3 or 4.

Dafatone
To summarize, it looks like NoDak gets in if NoDak, Clarkson, and Providence win. If NoDak gets in and Ohio State wins, we (likely) wind up in Sioux Falls.

I say likely because I'm not 100% certain they won't pull some sort of rabbit out of a hat to avoid that.

The North Dakota Won’t Ever Dies are leading 2-0, of course.

What time will the regionals be announced on Sunday?

Chris H82
What time will the regionals be announced on Sunday?

I think 12pm on espnu

Chris H82
What time will the regionals be announced on Sunday?

ESPNU at noon, unless Hopkins Lax is prolonged. Then maybe 1 or another goes to ESPNNews?

it says 11 in several articles but that could be CT..

ESPNU schedule says 12:00 noon eastern

RichH

Dafatone
To summarize, it looks like NoDak gets in if NoDak, Clarkson, and Providence win. If NoDak gets in and Ohio State wins, we (likely) wind up in Sioux Falls.

I say likely because I'm not 100% certain they won't pull some sort of rabbit out of a hat to avoid that.

The North Dakota Won’t Ever Dies are leading 2-0, of course.

3-0 ND with 4 to go. UMD took 2 penalties in last 6 min, 1 a major. But they just scored 3-1

ND wins 4-1, after another UMD 2 min with 2:11 to go. Let's go PU.

So is it correct that if either BU or Princeton win, ND is out?

Jim Hyla
So is it correct that if either BU or Princeton win, ND is out?

We believe that to be the case, yes.

Only one way to end all this squabbling about best playoff selection procedure. Cornell wins the National Championship. The playoff selection which produces that result will be the undisputed best system.

So...what are the chances Cornell ends up in Bridgeport?

jaybert
So...what are the chances Cornell ends up in Bridgeport?

Until there is a result in either the ECAC final or the HE final, it really is completely up in the air at this point. Seriously, it's almost here. You'll know shortly.

BU 2-0 EN

BU WINS

So does Michigan Tech.

And Princeton is hanging on to a 1-0 lead.

Jeff Hopkins '82
So does Michigan Tech.

And Princeton is hanging on to a 1-0 lead.

Clarkson scores 6-on-4 with 6.4 seconds left to tie it up. Going to OT.

Beeeej

Jeff Hopkins '82
So does Michigan Tech.

And Princeton is hanging on to a 1-0 lead.

Clarkson scores 6-on-4 with 6.4 seconds left to tie it up. Going to OT.

It was 6 on 5. The penalty had expired about twenty seconds earlier.

ND and Ohio St. 2-2

andyw2100

Beeeej

Jeff Hopkins '82
So does Michigan Tech.

And Princeton is hanging on to a 1-0 lead.

Clarkson scores 6-on-4 with 6.4 seconds left to tie it up. Going to OT.

It was 6 on 5. The penalty had expired about twenty seconds earlier.

Thanks. I thought I counted only 4 Tigers in front of Ferland before I posted, but perhaps that's why Clarkson was able to score.

ugarte pointed out to me in another mode of communication that Minnesota-Duluth must be going apeshit in front of their TVs right now.

still need ND to win to stay top 4 seed, but does that matter the way they play the game

upprdeck
still need ND to win to stay top 4 seed, but does that matter the way they play the game

Who needs a ND win to stay a top 4 seed?

Assuming Denver wins (and they're ahead 3-0), here's what I see:

If OSU and Clarkson win, we finish 4th. Likely we play Minn. Duluth.
If Notre Dame and Clarkson win, we finish 3rd (with Denver 4th). Likely we play BU.

If OSU and Princeton win, we finish 4th. Likely we play BU.
If Notre Dame and Princeton win, we finish 3rd (with Denver 4th). Since Princeton would be the natural bracket partner for #3, we can't play them. Probably they swap Michigan Tech to us and give Princeton to Notre Dame.

Jeff Hopkins '82
Assuming Denver wins (and they're ahead 3-0), here's what I see:

If OSU and Clarkson win, we finish 4th. Likely we play Minn. Duluth.
If Notre Dame and Clarkson win, we finish 3rd (with Denver 4th). Likely we play BU.

If OSU and Princeton win, we finish 4th. Likely we play BU.
If Notre Dame and Princeton win, we finish 3rd (with Denver 4th). Since Princeton would be the natural bracket partner for #3, we can't play them. Probably they swap Michigan Tech to us and give Princeton to Notre Dame.

Those were my conclusions too. One of these outcomes is not like the others.

PRINCETON WINS

Beeeej

upprdeck
still need ND to win to stay top 4 seed, but does that matter the way they play the game

Who needs a ND win to stay a top 4 seed?

Not us!

Beeeej
PRINCETON WINS

I read Adam's column from this morning. Does this mean the Goofers are out?

Swampy

Beeeej
PRINCETON WINS

I read Adam's column from this morning. Does this mean the Goofers are out?

No, Minnesota-Duluth is out. Minnesota should be the lowest at-large now.

Beeeej

Swampy

Beeeej
PRINCETON WINS

I read Adam's column from this morning. Does this mean the Goofers are out?

No, Minnesota-Duluth is out. Minnesota should be the lowest at-large now.

You are the committee (which seems to be struggling a bit right now) had UMD in and Minnesota out, in one combination. Might rely on a few things.

Dafatone

Beeeej

Swampy

Beeeej
PRINCETON WINS

I read Adam's column from this morning. Does this mean the Goofers are out?

No, Minnesota-Duluth is out. Minnesota should be the lowest at-large now.

You are the committee (which seems to be struggling a bit right now) had UMD in and Minnesota out, in one combination. Might rely on a few things.

Fair enough - at this moment, Minnesota is barely in #12 ahead of UMD. I'm not gonna do the permutations, someone else can.

Yeah, the Goofers would be #12.

So it looks like we get either Michigan Tech or BU.

Beeeej

Dafatone

Beeeej

Swampy

Beeeej
PRINCETON WINS

I read Adam's column from this morning. Does this mean the Goofers are out?

No, Minnesota-Duluth is out. Minnesota should be the lowest at-large now.

You are the committee (which seems to be struggling a bit right now) had UMD in and Minnesota out, in one combination. Might rely on a few things.

Fair enough - at this moment, Minnesota is barely in #12 ahead of UMD. I'm not gonna do the permutations, someone else can.

Adam said:

Minnesota-Duluth's spot is more precarious than it seemed a few days ago thanks to its semifinal loss to Denver. If Duluth loses the NCHC consolation game, and the ECAC and Hockey East champs steal the 13th and 14 slots, then UMD is out because it would drop below Minnesota in the Pairwise.

If UMD manages to stay in, then Minnesota would be out in the above scenario.

So UMD should be out, Minnesota in.

I think we end up playing BU.

St Cloud gets Air Force in Sioux falls, Notre Dame gets Michigan tech in allentown. Our proper matchup is Princeton, but that can't be, so we have the #13, BU. Not sure if that's Bridgeport or Worcester.

Jeff Hopkins '82
Yeah, the Goofers would be #12.

So it looks like we get either Michigan Tech or BU.

Edit. I take that back. If Notre Dame wins, Duluth is #12 and the Goofers are out. If OSU wins, Minny is #12 and Duluth is out.

Ohio St. outplaying ND. 4:40 left in 3rd.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Jeff Hopkins '82
Yeah, the Goofers would be #12.

So it looks like we get either Michigan Tech or BU.

Edit. I take that back. If Notre Dame wins, Duluth is #12 and the Goofers are out. If OSU wins, Minny is #12 and Duluth is out.

Well, okay, then.

BigRedHockeyFan
Ohio St. outplaying ND. 4:40 left in 3rd.

On TV somewhere? Can't seem to load USCHO or CHN right now.

Audio from ND

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Also on BTN.

BigRedHockeyFan
Audio from ND

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Just found it on the Big Ten network on TV. 1:13 left, 2-2 still.

Video (requires cable login)

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Going to OT in South Bend

ND - Ohio St. 2-2, going to OT.

so a nd win makes us a 3 and go to CT, an osu win makes us a 4 and go to MA.. seems like playing BU in CT would be just a small bit better

Looks like Cornell will play BU no matter what happens.

upprdeck
so a nd win makes us a 3 and go to CT, an osu win makes us a 4 and go to MA.. seems like playing BU in CT would be just a small bit better

I thought Cornell plays Michigan Tech if Notre Dame wins?

should be interesting seeding though if ND wins and PSU has to go to allentown .

SCS - Mich - MD - air force
ND - Prov - psu - Princ
cornell - Minn St - Ne - BU
OSU - Denver - Clark - MTech

thats a bit messed up though. could easily have 3 all conf finals.

Denver - St. Cloud: 3 - 1, 3:55 left

upprdeck
should be interesting seeding though if ND wins and PSU has to go to allentown .

SCS - Mich - MD - air force
ND - Prov - psu - Princ
cornell - Minn St - Ne - BU
OSU - Denver - Clark - MTech

thats a bit messed up though. could easily have 3 all conf finals.

There's only so much you can do to prevent that with 4 or 5 teams from a single conference going. They only really care about avoiding intraconference in the first round. I'd be fine with an all-ECAC championship game again, as long as Cornell's one of the teams.

Denver 4, St. Cloud 1

why would we play Mich tech? we would be the 3 seed. we cant play princeton.. so it could be BU or Mich tech
if we are the 4 seed it probably would be BU first until the play the games.

Beeeej

upprdeck
should be interesting seeding though if ND wins and PSU has to go to allentown .

SCS - Mich - MD - air force
ND - Prov - psu - Princ
cornell - Minn St - Ne - BU
OSU - Denver - Clark - MTech

thats a bit messed up though. could easily have 3 all conf finals.

There's only so much you can do to prevent that with 4 or 5 teams from a single conference going. They only really care about avoiding intraconference in the first round. I'd be fine with an all-ECAC championship game again, as long as Cornell's one of the teams.

#MeToo and Wow! I really didn't see the ECAC getting 3 bids this year.

St. Cloud, EN, 2:05 left

NOTRE DAME WINS

Notre Dame wins!

Denver 4, St. Cloud 1, Final

Happy St. Patty's Day!

suddenly PWR has us drop to 4..

Notre Dame wins.

I think two brackets are set:

1. SCSU - 8. Michigan - 9. Northeastern - 16. Air Force (Sioux Falls)
2. Notre Dame - 7. Providence - 10. Clarkson - 15. Mich. Tech

the other two Brackets are a bit trickier. My guess is it's.

3. Cornell - 6 Mankato - 12. Duluth - 13. BU
4. OSU - 5. Denver - 11. Penn State - 14. Princeton (Allentown)

So it comes down to whether you put us and BU in Worcester and Notre Dame / Providence / Clarkson in Bridgeport or vice versa.

Are Worcester and Bridgeport NHL size rinks?

really makes no sense to reward BU with a home game though as a 4 seed.

strange how PWR changed though since that same set of winners an hr ago left us a 3..

upprdeck
really makes no sense to reward BU with a home game though as a 4 seed.

strange how PWR changed though since that same set of winners an hr ago left us a 3..

According to CHN, we're still a 3.

Jeff Hopkins '82
Notre Dame wins.

I think two brackets are set:

1. SCSU - 8. Michigan - 9. Northeastern - 16. Air Force (Sioux Falls)
2. Notre Dame - 7. Providence - 10. Clarkson - 15. Mich. Tech

the other two Brackets are a bit trickier. My guess is it's.

3. Cornell - 6 Mankato - 12. Duluth - 13. BU
4. OSU - 5. Denver - 11. Penn State - 14. Princeton (Allentown)

So it comes down to whether you put us and BU in Worcester and Notre Dame / Providence / Clarkson in Bridgeport or vice versa.

Couldn't you just as easily give Cornell Mich Tech, give Ohio State BU, and give Notre Dame Princeton?

since the first rule is less travel why wouldnt ND go to allentown? or is it far enough that flying throws that rule out?

BearLover

Jeff Hopkins '82
Notre Dame wins.

I think two brackets are set:

1. SCSU - 8. Michigan - 9. Northeastern - 16. Air Force (Sioux Falls)
2. Notre Dame - 7. Providence - 10. Clarkson - 15. Mich. Tech

the other two Brackets are a bit trickier. My guess is it's.

3. Cornell - 6 Mankato - 12. Duluth - 13. BU
4. OSU - 5. Denver - 11. Penn State - 14. Princeton (Allentown)

So it comes down to whether you put us and BU in Worcester and Notre Dame / Providence / Clarkson in Bridgeport or vice versa.

Couldn't you just as easily give Cornell Mich Tech, give Ohio State BU, and give Notre Dame Princeton?

I think he's matching the #1 seeds according to their finish in the pairwise: 1-16, 2-15, 3-14, & 4-13.

crazy it just changed back to 3..

BearLover

Jeff Hopkins '82
Notre Dame wins.

I think two brackets are set:

1. SCSU - 8. Michigan - 9. Northeastern - 16. Air Force (Sioux Falls)
2. Notre Dame - 7. Providence - 10. Clarkson - 15. Mich. Tech

the other two Brackets are a bit trickier. My guess is it's.

3. Cornell - 6 Mankato - 12. Duluth - 13. BU
4. OSU - 5. Denver - 11. Penn State - 14. Princeton (Allentown)

So it comes down to whether you put us and BU in Worcester and Notre Dame / Providence / Clarkson in Bridgeport or vice versa.

Couldn't you just as easily give Cornell Mich Tech, give Ohio State BU, and give Notre Dame Princeton?

You might, rabbit. You might. But I suspect the committee might like the CU-BU rivalry. Then again, we've already played each other this year, so they may consider that, too.

Jeff Hopkins '82

upprdeck
really makes no sense to reward BU with a home game though as a 4 seed.

strange how PWR changed though since that same set of winners an hr ago left us a 3..

According to CHN, we're still a 3.

Both USCHO & CHN have us #3 now. I guess tOSU losing knocked them down to #4. (Of course, us losing last night didn't help us either.)

Swampy

BearLover

Jeff Hopkins '82
Notre Dame wins.

I think two brackets are set:

1. SCSU - 8. Michigan - 9. Northeastern - 16. Air Force (Sioux Falls)
2. Notre Dame - 7. Providence - 10. Clarkson - 15. Mich. Tech

the other two Brackets are a bit trickier. My guess is it's.

3. Cornell - 6 Mankato - 12. Duluth - 13. BU
4. OSU - 5. Denver - 11. Penn State - 14. Princeton (Allentown)

So it comes down to whether you put us and BU in Worcester and Notre Dame / Providence / Clarkson in Bridgeport or vice versa.

Couldn't you just as easily give Cornell Mich Tech, give Ohio State BU, and give Notre Dame Princeton?

I think he's matching the #1 seeds according to their finish in the pairwise: 1-16, 2-15, 3-14, & 4-13.

Cornell is the 3 matched with the 13 in this

BearLover

Swampy

BearLover

Jeff Hopkins '82
Notre Dame wins.

I think two brackets are set:

1. SCSU - 8. Michigan - 9. Northeastern - 16. Air Force (Sioux Falls)
2. Notre Dame - 7. Providence - 10. Clarkson - 15. Mich. Tech

the other two Brackets are a bit trickier. My guess is it's.

3. Cornell - 6 Mankato - 12. Duluth - 13. BU
4. OSU - 5. Denver - 11. Penn State - 14. Princeton (Allentown)

So it comes down to whether you put us and BU in Worcester and Notre Dame / Providence / Clarkson in Bridgeport or vice versa.

Couldn't you just as easily give Cornell Mich Tech, give Ohio State BU, and give Notre Dame Princeton?

I think he's matching the #1 seeds according to their finish in the pairwise: 1-16, 2-15, 3-14, & 4-13.

Cornell is the 3 matched with the 13 in this

Yes, but we can't play Princeton in the first round, so you make as few switches as possible to fix that.

Swampy

BearLover

Jeff Hopkins '82
Notre Dame wins.

I think two brackets are set:

1. SCSU - 8. Michigan - 9. Northeastern - 16. Air Force (Sioux Falls)
2. Notre Dame - 7. Providence - 10. Clarkson - 15. Mich. Tech

the other two Brackets are a bit trickier. My guess is it's.

3. Cornell - 6 Mankato - 12. Duluth - 13. BU
4. OSU - 5. Denver - 11. Penn State - 14. Princeton (Allentown)

So it comes down to whether you put us and BU in Worcester and Notre Dame / Providence / Clarkson in Bridgeport or vice versa.

Couldn't you just as easily give Cornell Mich Tech, give Ohio State BU, and give Notre Dame Princeton?

I think he's matching the #1 seeds according to their finish in the pairwise: 1-16, 2-15, 3-14, & 4-13.

Yes, I was doing that as much as possible. But we can't play Princeton, and Denver can't play Duluth, so I swapped Princeton and BU to fix the first, and PSU and UMD to fix the second. That preserves "Bracket Integrity" for two brackets, and helps attendance for a third.

I think Jeff has it right, with the ND group in Worcester. If you're going to reward a team with what's essentially a home game, reward #7 instead of #13.

Beeeej

BearLover

Swampy

BearLover

Jeff Hopkins '82
Notre Dame wins.

I think two brackets are set:

1. SCSU - 8. Michigan - 9. Northeastern - 16. Air Force (Sioux Falls)
2. Notre Dame - 7. Providence - 10. Clarkson - 15. Mich. Tech

the other two Brackets are a bit trickier. My guess is it's.

3. Cornell - 6 Mankato - 12. Duluth - 13. BU
4. OSU - 5. Denver - 11. Penn State - 14. Princeton (Allentown)

So it comes down to whether you put us and BU in Worcester and Notre Dame / Providence / Clarkson in Bridgeport or vice versa.

Couldn't you just as easily give Cornell Mich Tech, give Ohio State BU, and give Notre Dame Princeton?

I think he's matching the #1 seeds according to their finish in the pairwise: 1-16, 2-15, 3-14, & 4-13.

Cornell is the 3 matched with the 13 in this

Yes, but we can't play Princeton in the first round, so you make as few switches as possible to fix that.

Right, and my example above is the same number of switches as this example

Swampy
I think Jeff has it right, with the ND group in Worcester. If you're going to reward a team with what's essentially a home game, reward #7 instead of #13.

To be fair, I'm not sure Bridgeport is any less a home game for Providence than Worcester. It's an hour's drive versus about 45 minutes. But I agree with your sentiment. That said #13 just won the head-to-head against #7, so who's to say they don't reward that.

BearLover

Beeeej

BearLover

Swampy

BearLover

Jeff Hopkins '82
Notre Dame wins.

I think two brackets are set:

1. SCSU - 8. Michigan - 9. Northeastern - 16. Air Force (Sioux Falls)
2. Notre Dame - 7. Providence - 10. Clarkson - 15. Mich. Tech

the other two Brackets are a bit trickier. My guess is it's.

3. Cornell - 6 Mankato - 12. Duluth - 13. BU
4. OSU - 5. Denver - 11. Penn State - 14. Princeton (Allentown)

So it comes down to whether you put us and BU in Worcester and Notre Dame / Providence / Clarkson in Bridgeport or vice versa.

Couldn't you just as easily give Cornell Mich Tech, give Ohio State BU, and give Notre Dame Princeton?

I think he's matching the #1 seeds according to their finish in the pairwise: 1-16, 2-15, 3-14, & 4-13.

Cornell is the 3 matched with the 13 in this

Yes, but we can't play Princeton in the first round, so you make as few switches as possible to fix that.

Right, and my example above is the same number of switches as this example

Unless I'm missing something, you have to move one of those teams twice to get the result you're talking about, and there's no reason to move them the second time. In any event, this is still all speculation, and we'll know in 12 hours and 47 minutes.