Opponents News 2: Hockey's the Reason for the Season

The old thread was reaching Harvard Sucks size.

Will the ECAC fuck up the holiday season?

Again?

Let's hope not. Here are our fellow travelers' games over the break:

Friday, December 15
Dartmouth 0 at Denver 1

Friday, December 16
Dartmouth 5 at Denver 4

Friday, December 29
Maine at RPI 4 p.m.
Yale vs. Minnesota-Duluth 4 p.m. (Ledyard Classic)
New Hampshire at Dartmouth 7 p.m. (Ledyard Classic)
St. Cloud State at Princeton
Union at Nebraska-Omaha 8 p.m.
Harvard vs. Mass Lowell 4 p.m. (Catamount Cup)
St. Lawrence at Vermont 7 p.m. (Catamount Cup)


Saturday, December 30
Maine at RPI 4 p.m.
Yale vs. New Hampshire 4 p.m. (Ledyard Classic)
Minn.-Duluth at Dartmouth 7 p.m. (Ledyard Classic)
St. Cloud State at Princeton
St. Lawrence vs. Mass Lowell 4 p.m. (Catamount Cup)
Harvard at Vermont 7 p.m. (Catamount Cup)
Union at Nebraska-Omaha 8 p.m.

Tuesday, January 2
Canisius at Clarkson
Quinnipiac at Connecticut

Wednesday, January 3
Brown at Providence (Mayor’s Cup)

Friday, January 5
Canisius at St. Lawrence

My picks in bold. Toss-ups are in italic.

Trotsky
The old thread was reaching Harvard Sucks size.

Will the ECAC fuck up the holiday season?

Again?

Let's hope not. Here are our fellow travelers' games over the break:

Friday, December 15
Dartmouth at Denver 9 p.m.

Friday, December 16
Dartmouth at Denver 9 p.m.

Friday, December 29
Maine at RPI 4 p.m.
Yale vs. Minnesota-Duluth 4 p.m. (Ledyard Classic)
New Hampshire at Dartmouth 7 p.m. (Ledyard Classic)
St. Cloud State at Princeton
Union at Nebraska-Omaha 8 p.m.
Harvard vs. Mass Lowell 4 p.m. (Catamount Cup)
St. Lawrence at Vermont 7 p.m. (Catamount Cup)


Saturday, December 30
Maine at RPI 4 p.m.
Yale vs. New Hampshire 4 p.m. (Ledyard Classic)
Minn.-Duluth at Dartmouth 7 p.m. (Ledyard Classic)
St. Cloud State at Princeton
St. Lawrence vs. Mass Lowell 4 p.m. (Catamount Cup)
Harvard at Vermont 7 p.m. (Catamount Cup)
Union at Nebraska-Omaha 8 p.m.

Tuesday, January 2
Canisius at Clarkson
Quinnipiac at Connecticut

Wednesday, January 3
Brown at Providence (Mayor’s Cup)

Friday, January 5
Canisius at St. Lawrence

Just bought tix for scsu at Princeton. First time in my life I think I'll be at baker rink rooting for them.

Any wins by Dartmouth or Princeton would certainly help Cornell's PWR. I don't see Dartmouth winning any games but I wouldn't be surprised if Princeton stole one from St. Cloud.

toddlose
Just bought tix for scsu at Princeton. First time in my life I think I'll be at baker rink rooting for them.

Give us a scouting report. I am scared of that team.

Are the second day games for the Ledyard and Catamount fixed?

ugarte
Are the second day games for the Ledyard and Catamount fixed?

It looks like it -- note the missing permutation is the all-ECAC meeting. Ledyard is fixed and the Cat was fixed in 2013 for example.

Iceberg
Any wins by Dartmouth or Princeton would certainly help Cornell's PWR. I don't see Dartmouth winning any games but I wouldn't be surprised if Princeton stole one from St. Cloud.

Dartmouth lost by only 1-0 at Denver last night. Denver's goal was on pp and they had 5 pp chances to Dartmouth's 3 -- that was the difference. The Green put up a good fight.

Trotsky

toddlose
Just bought tix for scsu at Princeton. First time in my life I think I'll be at baker rink rooting for them.

Give us a scouting report. I am scared of that team.

No promises. Depends on how much time I'm sitting at triumph brewery beforehand.

Dartmouth's improbable comeback at Denver pushes Cornell to 4 in PWR.

Trotsky
Dartmouth's improbable comeback at Denver pushes Cornell to 4 in PWR.

Thanks to Scoop85 for pointing out the availability of clips like this.
The Green may have had an entire season of puck luck last night.

Long-Time BC Coach Ceglarski Passes Away at 91 and the USCHO article.

For more of the Clarkson flavor, here's the Watertown Daily Times article.

Any of us oldies will certainly remember him. For me, obviously 1970, but also 1966 in the old Boston Arena.

We were definitely the better team in 1970, they were in '66.

DL
And yet they tapped in 5 straight goals to beat #2 Denver

Wow. Dartmouth is down 3-0 after the first, then pots 3 in the second, goes ahead at 18:23 of the third, then pulls the goalie and gets #5 seconds later at 19:03.

marty

Trotsky
Dartmouth's improbable comeback at Denver pushes Cornell to 4 in PWR.

Thanks to Scoop85 for pointing out the availability of clips like this.
The Green may have had an entire season of puck luck last night.

Wow, you’re right about puck luck on 4 out of the 5 goals. I’ve never seen an empty netter scored quite like that.

marty

Trotsky
Dartmouth's improbable comeback at Denver pushes Cornell to 4 in PWR.

Thanks to Scoop85 for pointing out the availability of clips like this.
The Green may have had an entire season of puck luck last night.

Are these subscription-locked? I can't get past the "cannot be played on your device"

DL

marty

Trotsky
Dartmouth's improbable comeback at Denver pushes Cornell to 4 in PWR.

Thanks to Scoop85 for pointing out the availability of clips like this.
The Green may have had an entire season of puck luck last night.

Are these subscription-locked? I can't get past the "cannot be played on your device"

Played on my Samsung tablet with no subscription.

Al DeFlorio

DL

marty

Trotsky
Dartmouth's improbable comeback at Denver pushes Cornell to 4 in PWR.

Thanks to Scoop85 for pointing out the availability of clips like this.
The Green may have had an entire season of puck luck last night.

Are these subscription-locked? I can't get past the "cannot be played on your device"

Played on my Samsung tablet with no subscription.

Clearly, I am in the realm of knowing only enough to get myself in trouble. 3 systems (WinX, Android L, Win7), 3 browsers (FF, Chrome, Edge), 2 countries, VPN or not, nothing blocked, hostsfile or not... no love.
Sorry for the sidetrack.

Denver's website has a highlight reel from the game, but it doesn't show the empty-netter.

I received the cannot be played on your device message once this morning with Chrome. Then after switching browsers and switching back to Chrome it was fine. (?)

I think these sites have to choose streaming protocols based on which OS they are streaming to. Perhaps this site gets confused as to what it is streaming to and gets hung up. But this theory is probably either wrong or oversimplified.

marty
I received the cannot be played on your device message once this morning with Chrome. Then after switching browsers and switching back to Chrome it was fine. (?)

I think these sites have to choose streaming protocols based on which OS they are streaming to. Perhaps this site gets confused as to what it is streaming to and gets hung up. But this theory is probably either wrong or oversimplified.

Even if it's wrong, it seems to be what's happened. Turned Data Saver on on mobile Chrome and it worked. Turned it off… still worked. Weirdness

Not looking like a very good day for the conference overall. However, Princeton and St. Cloud are tied at 3 near the end of regulation and Dartmouth is leading UNH in the third.

There's a lot of season left, but this has to be the weakest showing for the ECAC in terms of PWR in a long, long time.

The conference has seven teams at 45th or below.

Iceberg
Not looking like a very good day for the conference overall.

And it's especially bad when you look at how some of them lost.

Hvd 2-5
Union 1-5

Those were supposed to be 2 of our strong teams.

However, Princeton and St. Cloud are tied at 3 near the end of regulation and Dartmouth is leading UNH in the third.

Stayed tied, but I'd like to see the OT replay. Shots: St. Cloud 14, Princeton 0

Jim Hyla

Iceberg
Not looking like a very good day for the conference overall.

And it's especially bad when you look at how some of them lost.

Hvd 2-5
Union 1-5

Those were supposed to be 2 of our strong teams.

However, Princeton and St. Cloud are tied at 3 near the end of regulation and Dartmouth is leading UNH in the third.

Stayed tied, but I'd like to see the OT replay. Shots: St. Cloud 14, Princeton 0

Whoa, 14 shots on goal in 5 minutes

Jim Hyla
Stayed tied, but I'd like to see the OT replay. Shots: St. Cloud 14, Princeton 0

5 minutes? Holy shit!

Princeton ties St. Cloud again, Dartmouth ties Duluth, and even St. Lawrence beat Lowell. Overall a better day for the conference and presumably a nice pairwise boost for Cornell before league play starts again next weekend.

Donato made Team USA.

They will be in Second Best Korea from February 14-25. Lynah East is January 26 so presumably he will be there.

Trotsky
Donato made Team USA.

They will be in Second Best Korea from February 14-25. Lynah East is January 26 so presumably he will be there.

That will depend on the pre-tournament training schedule.

[www.newyorkupstate.com]

Watertown Daily News
WATERTOWN, N.Y. -- Temperatures have plunged to a bitter, record-breaking low in Watertown.

The temperature hit 32 below zero this morning [Dec. 28] at the Watertown International Airport -- setting a new record low daily temperature for Watertown, reported the National Weather Service. The previous record daily low of minus 23 degrees was set in 1993.

It could get even colder.

billhoward
[www.newyorkupstate.com]

Watertown Daily News
WATERTOWN, N.Y. -- Temperatures have plunged to a bitter, record-breaking low in Watertown.

The temperature hit 32 below zero this morning [Dec. 28] at the Watertown International Airport -- setting a new record low daily temperature for Watertown, reported the National Weather Service. The previous record daily low of minus 23 degrees was set in 1993.

It could get even colder.

So?

Interesting stat for Colgate in their loss to Q.

Colgate tallied two extra-attacker goals in a game for a third straight season with Austin and Dauda's last-minute goals

Per [collegehockeystats.net], Union at Harvard is on "NESN Plus" today at 3:30.

Watching Union at Harvard and Bright is empty. It looks like footage of those games where there's an outbreak and they ban the fans.

Union at Harvard was 1-0 Union for most of the game but has become interested with a slew of goals in the third making it 3-3 with 8:40 left (and on ILDN in addition to NESN).

Union goes on pp with 2 mins to go and still tied 3-3.

Now going to ot.

Harvard wins in the final 10 seconds, taking the face off in their D zone setting up a perfect pass and a nice deek move. Union led 1-0, 2-1, and 3-2 and gets bupkus, and next plays Clarkson.

Trotsky
Harvard wins in the final 10 seconds, taking the face off in their D zone setting up a perfect pass and a nice deek move. Union led 1-0, 2-1, and 3-2 and gets bupkus, and next plays Clarkson.

After watching the OT I decided to watch Harvard's highlight reel of the Cornell game and they don't show the Cornell goals. Both Harvard goals, an open-ice hit and some near misses but other than the fact that the opening title card said "L 3-2" and there was a scoreboard chyron, you'd think they won 2-0. lol

Free video tonight:

www.rpitv.org

Donato trio PO'd after one period - down 1-0.

Beginning of OT.

Former Cornell recruit Donovan Ott will be going to RPI, quite soon actually. Does anyone recall why he decommitted?

I’m excited to announce my commitment to @RPI_Hockey and can’t wait to join the boys for the second half of the season! Thank you to my family, coaches, and teammates for supporting me in the process.

— Donovan Ott (@DonovanOtt12) January 11, 2018

Q and Harvard just tied 2-2.

Jim Hyla
Q and Harvard just tied 2-2.

I'll take that.

Western Michigan's win over St. Cloud State last night was enough to drop St. Cloud's #3 in the PWR much closer to #4 than to #2, and WMU is leading 2-1 in the 2nd tonight. Could be an interesting end to the weekend.

Beeeej
Western Michigan's win over St. Cloud State last night was enough to drop St. Cloud's #3 in the PWR much closer to #4 than to #2, and WMU is leading 2-1 in the 2nd tonight. Could be an interesting end to the weekend.

And Ohio State's win over Penn State jumped them over Denver to move up to #5.

Beeeej
Western Michigan's win over St. Cloud State last night was enough to drop St. Cloud's #3 in the PWR much closer to #4 than to #2, and WMU is leading 2-1 in the 2nd tonight. Could be an interesting end to the weekend.

the tie to yale dropped us under .6 and the win over brown didn't pick us back up.

i really am still in disbelief that clarkson has the #1 team in the country.

ugarte

Beeeej
Western Michigan's win over St. Cloud State last night was enough to drop St. Cloud's #3 in the PWR much closer to #4 than to #2, and WMU is leading 2-1 in the 2nd tonight. Could be an interesting end to the weekend.

the tie to yale dropped us under .6 and the win over brown didn't pick us back up.

i really am still in disbelief that clarkson has the #1 team in the country.

We ain't shitty.....

ugarte

Beeeej
Western Michigan's win over St. Cloud State last night was enough to drop St. Cloud's #3 in the PWR much closer to #4 than to #2, and WMU is leading 2-1 in the 2nd tonight. Could be an interesting end to the weekend.

the tie to yale dropped us under .6 and the win over brown didn't pick us back up.

i really am still in disbelief that clarkson has the #1 team in the country.

Must be their coach’s mentor?

Mark Morris ?

More disruption in Canton: [www.collegehockeynews.com]

[deadspin.com]

I don't see what the big deal is. Dartmouth has been playing in an empty arena for quite some time now.

KenP
More disruption in Canton: [www.collegehockeynews.com]

He'll be playing at BC in the fall, per his Twitter account.

Iceberg

KenP
More disruption in Canton: [www.collegehockeynews.com]

He'll be playing at BC in the fall, per his Twitter account.

Nice step up for the kid

All I can say is, wow.

Has anybody ever seen this? I ski, but I can't imagine going downhill on skates.

I'm going to have to watch replays of this.

wait.. that isnt just a mario cart track!!!

The ultimate bro sport.

I first saw this on Facebook a few weeks ago.

[www.facebook.com]

upprdeck
wait.. that isnt just a mario cart track!!!

Sure looks like one. But no coins. No stars!

sucks and Clarkson tied at 3 after 2 periods. Shots are 21-20 Clarkson. Sounds pretty even.

Now 5-5 halfway through the 3rd. So much for goaltending.

Final 6-6 OT.

to catch Clarkson thats a good result, to create space with Harvard we might have wanted to see Clarkson win.

Union at Brown on ILDN because it's not 7:30. Looks like 100 people in the rink.

Dartmouth leading in Potsdam 2-1 halfway through.

Trotsky
Dartmouth leading in Potsdam 2-1 halfway through.

Final 3-2 Dartmouth.

St.Cloud also loses.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Trotsky
Dartmouth leading in Potsdam 2-1 halfway through.

Final 3-2 Dartmouth.

St.Cloud also loses.

We're #2 in the Pairwise now

BearLover

Jeff Hopkins '82

Trotsky
Dartmouth leading in Potsdam 2-1 halfway through.

Final 3-2 Dartmouth.

St.Cloud also loses.

We're #2 in the Pairwise now

...and are also tied for 1st in the ECAC

BearLover
We're #2 in the Pairwise now

Just after the Colgate game ended we were second by 1/10,000th of a point. Checking now, just after midnight, that's up to 4/1,000th of a point.

ND hit a speed bump today losing their 4th of the season to lowly Wisconsin.
They played in the United Center in Chicago. Did the Olympic roster kick in? There is no mention of that in the ND recap.

marty
ND hit a speed bump today losing their 4th of the season to lowly Wisconsin.

5 - zip. Whoa.

Trotsky

marty
ND hit a speed bump today losing their 4th of the season to lowly Wisconsin.

5 - zip. Whoa.

Not sure what to think of the ratings posted on CHN & USCHO. USCHO has us tied w/ ND for #1 in the pairwise, but CHN has us still #2. USCHO has us listed #2 in the RPI although both our raw RPI and our adjusted RPI are higher than ND's (.5954 > .5953 & .5974* > .5969*). CHN has us #1 in RPI, .597 > .595. But ND is still #1 in the KRACH on both.

This week's polls are going to be fun.

marty
ND hit a speed bump today losing their 4th of the season to lowly Wisconsin.
They played in the United Center in Chicago. Did the Olympic roster kick in? There is no mention of that in the ND recap.

The CBC/AP reports that Team Canada will play an exhibition game on 1/28, but U.S. players won't have practices or exhibitions before they have to show up in South Korea on Feb. 8.

Since Ryan Donato scored almost 1/3 of Harvard's goals this season, I checked out Harvard's schedule. As luck would have it, he should still be in the U.S. next weekend and leave for Korea after the first Beanpot game (against BU on 2/5). Harvard will be without him for the rest of the Beanpot, but what difference would another Beanpot loss make when Harvard already has so many? He'll likely also miss games against Union, SLU, Clarkson, Brown, & Yale. He should be back in time for the ECAC tourney.

Swampy

marty
ND hit a speed bump today losing their 4th of the season to lowly Wisconsin.
They played in the United Center in Chicago. Did the Olympic roster kick in? There is no mention of that in the ND recap.

According to the Team USA web site, the USA hockey team will start practicing in South Korea about a week before the games begin.

Since Ryan Donato scored almost 1/3 of Harvard's goals this season, I checked out Harvard's schedule. As luck would have it, he should still be in the U.S. next weekend and leave for Korea the following week. Harvard will be without him for the Beanpot, but what difference would another Beanpot loss make when Harvard already has so many Beanpot failures? He'll likely also miss games against Dartmouth, Union, SLU, Clarkson, Brown, & Yale. He should be back in time for the ECAC tourney.

toddlose

Swampy

marty
ND hit a speed bump today losing their 4th of the season to lowly Wisconsin.
They played in the United Center in Chicago. Did the Olympic roster kick in? There is not mention of that in the ND recap.

According to the Team USA web site, the USA hockey team will start practicing in South Korea about a week before the games begin.

Since Ryan Donato scored almost 1/3 of Harvard's goals this season, I checked out Harvard's schedule. As luck would have it, he should still be in the U.S. next weekend and leave for Korea the following week. Harvard will be without him for the Beanpot, but what difference would another Beanpot loss make when Harvard already has so many Beanpot failures? He'll likely also miss games against Dartmouth, Union, SLU, Clarkson, Brown, & Yale. He should be back in time for the ECAC tourney.

I edited my post because the CBC/AP page includes info on Team Canada and has more specific info on Team USA. I believe CBC/AP & Team USA sites are consistent in that Feb. 9-10 is probably (I haven't bothered to check) about a week before the hockey event starts.

Not sure what to think of the ratings posted on CHN & USCHO. USCHO has us tied w/ ND for #1 in the pairwise, but CHN has us still #2. USCHO has us listed #2 in the RPI although both our raw RPI and our adjusted RPI are higher than ND's (.5954 > .5953 & .5974* > .5969*). CHN has us #1 in RPI, .597 > .595. But ND is still #1 in the KRACH on both.

CHN's is correct.

For how much longer is the ECAC tournament tied to Lake Placid? Have there been any developments on locations recently?

CU2007
For how much longer is the ECAC tournament tied to Lake Placid? Have there been any developments on locations recently?

Last I heard it was through next year. If Cornell and Clarkson are regulars they will have no trouble with attendance and I would expect another 3-year extension.

Trotsky

CU2007
For how much longer is the ECAC tournament tied to Lake Placid? Have there been any developments on locations recently?

Last I heard it was through next year. If Cornell and Clarkson are regulars they will have no trouble with attendance and I would expect another 3-year extension.

Last year was my 1st LP experience, and despite the longer drive it has Albany beat hands-down in every respect.

adamw

Not sure what to think of the ratings posted on CHN & USCHO. USCHO has us tied w/ ND for #1 in the pairwise, but CHN has us still #2. USCHO has us listed #2 in the RPI although both our raw RPI and our adjusted RPI are higher than ND's (.5954 > .5953 & .5974* > .5969*). CHN has us #1 in RPI, .597 > .595. But ND is still #1 in the KRACH on both.

CHN's is correct.

Sure CHN is correct, but there is really no difference between them. In both we are tied in pairwise comparisons won, 58 each. That's because ND wins the comparison with us, but they lose the comparison to Denver and we beat the Denver comparison. The easiest way to see that is on CHN's site, click on Pairwise Grid.

So both CHN and USCHO show the comparison at 58. That ties us with ND for first, so USCHO shows the tie. However I believe the tie-breaker is RPI and therefore ND gets the first spot.

If you want to understand all the ins and outs, on the Ratings tag on CHN's site, click on Primer. You'll probably find more than you want.

Jim Hyla
If you want to understand all the ins and outs, on the Ratings tag on CHN's site, click on Primer. You'll probably find more than you want.

Thanks, Jim. Signed ... the author of the Primer.

adamw

Jim Hyla
If you want to understand all the ins and outs, on the Ratings tag on CHN's site, click on Primer. You'll probably find more than you want.

Thanks, Jim. Signed ... the author of the Primer.

You're welcome, deservedly so.

Duluth crushing St.Cloud, 5-0 after 2.

Notre Dame and Minny scoreless starting the 3rd.

Denver losing 2-0 to NoDak in the 2nd.

Would it be too much to ask for Cornell & Clarkson to be 1 & 2 after tonight? That would be fun.

Jeff Hopkins '82
Notre Dame and Minny scoreless starting the 3rd

Now heading in OT. The game is on ESPN2.

Jeff Hopkins '82
Duluth crushing St.Cloud, 5-0 after 2.

Notre Dame and Minny scoreless starting the 3rd.

Denver losing 2-0 to NoDak in the 2nd.

Would it be too much to ask for Cornell & Clarkson to be 1 & 2 after tonight? That would be fun.

Beginning of OT for ND @ Minn on ESPN2

marty

Jeff Hopkins '82
Duluth crushing St.Cloud, 5-0 after 2.

Notre Dame and Minny scoreless starting the 3rd.

Denver losing 2-0 to NoDak in the 2nd.

Would it be too much to ask for Cornell & Clarkson to be 1 & 2 after tonight? That would be fun.

Beginning of OT for ND @ Minn on ESPN2

Minny wins!

Minny wins it with 1:25 left in OT!

We're # 1? Maybe?

oh my. ohhhhhh my.

ugarte
oh my. ohhhhhh my.

You said it!

i've got the vapors

Oh, boy! Is this great!

IMO hitting a PWR milestone on a Friday is like the Dow or NASDAQ breaking a record in the middle of the trading day. Hopefully we win tonight and can see an uptick in the polls on Monday.

(And yes... much more important is our ranking and polls at the end of the season....)

KenP
IMO hitting a PWR milestone on a Friday is like the Dow or NASDAQ breaking a record in the middle of the trading day.

At least we don't have a fat orange asshole tweeting about it every time we hit a PWR milestone.

BearLover

KenP
IMO hitting a PWR milestone on a Friday is like the Dow or NASDAQ breaking a record in the middle of the trading day.

At least we don't have a fat orange asshole tweeting about it every time we hit a PWR milestone.

Hear, hear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

USCHO has ND with a higher RPI than CHN, so we are only 1t on their pairwise page.

Any idea why USCHO and CHN differ?

Notre Dame vs. Minnesota, full game, 200 x 100 sheet.

[www.youtube.com]

nshapiro
USCHO has ND with a higher RPI than CHN, so we are only 1t on their pairwise page.

Any idea why USCHO and CHN differ?

I was wondering the same thing. Screenshots:

Princeton Announces it will hold Champions Weekend on Feb. 17

The Princeton men's hockey program is pleased to announce it will hold Champions Weekend on Feb. 17 to honor the championship teams of 1998 and 2008.

A ceremonial puck drop will be held with Princeton hockey alums and Stanley Cup champions George Parros '03 and Kevin Westgarth '07.

Neither of whom were on the championship teams.

Anybody able to get Clarkson's streaming video to work at [clarksonathletics.com] ? They're in OT with Brown, 2-2.

Beeeej
Anybody able to get Clarkson's streaming video to work at [clarksonathletics.com] ? They're in OT with Brown, 2-2.

Never mind - 2-2 tie, OT final. Wow.

Y and H put 53 and 51 shots on goal tonight. Neither scored.

Al DeFlorio
Y and H put 53 and 51 shots on goal tonight. Neither scored.

Aren't you glad we didn't face that Colton Point last weekend?

The only other team in the top half of the ECAC to earn 2 league points was Colgate, who took care of Harvard. Another good night.