Polls 2017-18

It's meaningless, but it's what you do when you wake up in the middle of the night and can't get back to sleep.

Preseason USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
September 25, 2017
	Team	    (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Denver	     (48)	33- 7-4	998	1
2	Boston Univer		24-11-3	837	6
3	Minnesota		23-12-3	822	7
4	Harvard	     ( 1)	28- 6-2	744	3
5	UMass Lowell		27-11-3	711	4
6	Minnesota Duluth( 1)	28- 7-7	642	2
7	North Dakota		21-16-3	632	9
8	Notre Dame		23-12-5	611	5
9	St. Cloud State		16-19-1	547	NR
10	Penn State		25-12-2	530	8
11	Providence		22-12-5	494	15
12	Wisconsin		20-15-1	414	17
13	Boston College		21-15-4	366	16
14	Quinnipiac		23-15-2	286	20
15	Cornell		        21- 9-5	279	13
16	Union		        25-10-3	215	11
17	Air Force		27-10-5	203	12
18	Minnesota State		22-13-4	198	NR
19	Ohio State		21-12-6	180	14
20	Northeastern		18-15-5	172	NR
20	Western Michigan	22-13-5	172	10
Others receiving votes: Vermont 119, Michigan Tech 60, Bemidji State 52, 
Clarkson 45, Robert Morris 39, Miami 37, Michigan 24, 
St. Lawrence 18, Omaha 17, Bowling Green 16, Yale 11, 
Ferris State 5, Brown 1, Canisius 1, Dartmouth 1, New Hampshire 1.


Preseason USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
September 25, 2017
	Team	              Points  (First) Last Poll	Record
1	University of Denver	510	(34)	1	33- 7-4
2	Boston University	424		6	24-12-3
3	University of Minnesota	408		7	23-12-3
4	Harvard University	351		3	28- 6-2
5	Providence College	348		15	22-12-5
6	St Cloud State Univer	281		NR	16-19-1
7	Univer of North Dakota	276		9	21-16-3
8	Univer of Notre Dame	269		4	23-12-5
9	UMass Lowell	        266		5	27-11-3
10	Penn State University	206		8	25-12-2
11	University of Wisconsin	156		NR	20-15-1
11	Univer Minnesota Duluth	156		2	28- 7-7
13	Quinnipiac University	103		NR	23-15-2
14	Northeastern University	101		NR	18-15-5
15	Minnesota State Univer	41		NR	22-13-5
Others receiving votes: Cornell University 37, Ohio State University 32, 
Boston College 30, Clarkson University 22, United States Air Force Academy 22, 
Union College 14, Western Michigan University 12, Miami University 7, 
Michigan Tech University 4, Yale University 1.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
October 2, 2017
	Team	               Points (First) Last Poll	Record
1	University of Denver	510	(34)	1	0-0-0
2	Boston University	426		2	1-0-0
3	University of Minnesota	403		3	0-0-0
4	Harvard University	373		4	0-0-0
5	Providence College	338		5	0-0-0
6	St Cloud State Univer	302		6	0-0-0
7	Univer of North Dakota	280		7	0-0-0
8	Univer of Notre Dame	263		8	0-0-0
9	UMass Lowell	        238		9	0-0-0
10	University of Wisconsin	186		T11	1-0-0
11	Penn State University	168		10	0-0-0
12	Univer Minnesota Duluth	130		T11	0-0-0
13	Northeastern University	117		14	0-0-0
14	Quinnipiac University	108		13	0-0-0
15	Minnesota State Univer	59		15	0-0-0
Others receiving votes: Boston College 48, Clarkson University 29, 
Ohio State University 28, Cornell University 28, United States Air Force Academy 23, 
Miami University 14, Western Michigan University 7, Union College 2.

Preseason USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
September 18, 2017
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Clarkson	(10)	32-4-5	141	1
2	Wisconsin	( 1)	33-3-4	128	2
3	Minnesota	( 4)	26-8-5	118	4
4	Boston College		28-6-5	110	3
5	Minnesota Duluth	25-7-5	87	5
6	St. Lawrence		26-6-4	65	6
7	Cornell		        20-9-5	49	7
8	Northeastern		22-12-3	28	10
9	Quinnipiac		21-10-6	27	NR
10	Robert Morris		24-5-6	24	8
Others receiving votes: Colgate 16, Princeton 16, 
Ohio State 5, Harvard 4, Mercyhurst 4, Boston University 3.

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
October 02, 2017
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Wisconsin	(10)	4- 0-0	145	2
2	Clarkson	( 5)	1- 0-1	134	1
3	Boston College		0- 0-0	119	4
4	Minnesota		1- 1-0	94	3
4	Minnesota Duluth	2- 0-0	94	5
6	St. Lawrence		0- 0-0	72	6
7	Cornell		        0- 0-0	46	7
8	Northeastern		0- 1-1	39	8
9	Robert Morris		0- 0-0	26	10
10	Colgate		        0- 0-0	21	NR
Others receiving votes: Ohio State 11, Merrimack 6, Harvard 4, 
Providence 4, Quinnipiac 4, Princeton 3, Boston University 2, Bemidji State 1.

Preseason USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Women's College Hockey Poll
September 19, 2017
	Team	              Points  (First) Last Poll	Record
1	Clarkson University	183	(14)	1	32-4-5
2	University of Wisconsin	169	(3)	2	33-3-4
3	University of Minnesota	155	(2)	4	26-8-5
4	Boston College	        129		3	28-6-5
5	Univer Minnesota Duluth	116		5	25-7-5
6	St Lawrence University	72		6	26-6-4
7	Cornell University	71		7	20-9-5
8	Northeastern University	42		10	22-12-3
9	Quinnipiac University	36		NR	21-10-6
10	Robert Morris University27		8	24-5-6
Others receiving votes: Colgate University 20, Princeton University 15, Harvard University 4, 
Boston University 2, Mercyhurts University 2, Ohio State University 2.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Women's College Hockey Poll
September 26, 2017
	Team	               Points (First) Last Poll	Record
1	Clarkson University	182	(13)	1	0-0-0
2	University of Wisconsin	174	(5)	2	2-0-0
3	University of Minnesota	152	(1)	3	0-0-0
4	Boston College	        132		4	0-0-0
5	Univer Minnesota Duluth	112		5	0-0-0
6	Cornell University	84		7	0-0-0
7	St Lawrence University	70		6	0-0-0
8	Northeastern University	49		8	0-0-0
9	Robert Morris University39		10	0-0-0
10	Quinnipiac University	23		9	0-0-0
Others receiving votes: Colgate University 15, Princeton University 5, 
Harvard University 4, Ohio State University 3, Mercyhurst University 1.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Women's College Hockey Poll
October 3, 2017
	Team	              Points  (First) Last Poll	Record
1	University of Wisconsin	186	(15)	2	4-0-0
2	Clarkson University	172	(4)	1	1-0-1
3	Boston College	        141		4	0-0-0
4	Univer Minnesota Duluth	125		5	2-0-0
5	University of Minnesota	122		3	1-1-0
6	St Lawrence University	91		7	0-0-0
7	Cornell University	69		6	0-0-0
8	Northeastern University	53		8	0-1-1
9	Robert Morris University37		9	0-0-0
10	Colgate University	23		NR	0-0-0
Others receiving votes: Quinnipiac University 10, Ohio State University 6, 
Princeton University 5, Merrimack College 4, Providence College 1.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

Jim Hyla

Brown 1

Props to that voter.

Summary of the pre-season polls.

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
October 09, 2017
	Team	       (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Denver	         (45)	0- 0-0	995	1
2	Boston University( 5)	2- 0-0	947	2
3	Harvard		        0- 0-0	849	4
4	Notre Dame		2- 0-0	743	8
5	Minnesota Duluth	1- 1-0	726	6
6	St. Cloud State		1- 0-0	723	9
7	Minnesota		1- 1-0	708	3
8	North Dakota		1- 0-1	678	7
9	Providence		2- 0-0	670	11
10	Wisconsin		2- 1-0	424	12
11	Penn State		1- 1-0	410	10
12	UMass Lowell		0- 2-0	365	5
13	Boston College		0- 0-1	346	13
14	Northeastern		2- 0-0	291	20
15	Clarkson		2- 0-0	267	NR
15	Michigan Tech		2- 1-0	267	NR
17	Quinnipiac		0- 1-1	257	14
18	Cornell		        0- 0-0	226	15
19	Air Force		1- 0-1	161	17
20	New Hampshire		2- 0-0	134	NR
Others receiving votes: Ohio State 132, Minnesota State 61, 
Western Michigan 36, Colgate 24, Michigan 16, Union 14, 
Bemidji State 12, Vermont 6, Omaha 5, Army 4, Miami 2, Brown 1.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
October 9, 2017
	Team	              Points  (First) Last Poll	Record
1	University of Denver	510	(34)	1	0-0-0
2	Boston University	467		2	2-0-0
3	Harvard University	373		4	0-0-0
4	St Cloud State Univer	353		6	1-0-0
5	Providence College	338		5	2-0-0
6	University of Notre Dame316		8	2-0-0
7	University of Minnesota	312		3	1-1-0
8	Univer of North Dakota	246		7	1-0-1
9	Univer Minnesota Duluth	233		12	1-1-0
10	University of Wisconsin	172		10	2-1-0
11	Penn State University	126		11	1-1-0
12	UMass Lowell            99		9	0-2-0
13	Michigan Tech University98		NR	2-1-0
14	Northeastern University	93		13	2-0-0
15	Clarkson University	77		NR	2-0-0
Others receiving votes: Boston College 71, Quinnipiac University 64, 
Cornell University 46, Ohio State University 39, University of New Hampshire 28, 
United States Air Force Academy 16, Army West Point 1, Colgate University 1 Miami University 1.

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
October 09, 2017
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Wisconsin	(10)	6- 0-0	143	1
2	Clarkson	( 5)	3- 0-1	135	2
3	Boston College		2- 0-0	127	3
4	St. Lawrence		1- 0-1	80	6
5	Minnesota Duluth	2- 2-0	68	4
6	Northeastern		2- 1-1	60	8
7	Ohio State		3- 0-1	59	NR
8	Colgate		        2- 0-0	43	10
9	Minnesota		1- 2-1	42	4
10	Robert Morris		2- 0-0	29	9
Others receiving votes: Cornell 28, Providence 6, 
Harvard 3, Bemidji State 1, Princeton 1.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Women's College Hockey Poll
October 10, 2017
	Team	              Points  (First) Last Poll	Record
1	University of Wisconsin	182	(13)	1	6-0-0
2	Clarkson University	176	(6)	2	3-0-1
3	Boston College	        155		3	2-0-0
4	St Lawrence University	116		6	1-0-1
5	Northeastern University	92		8	2-1-1
6	Univer Minnesota Duluth	80		4	2-2-0
7	Ohio State University	58		NR	3-0-1
T8	University of Minnesota	48		5	1-2-1
T8	Colgate University	48		10	2-0-0
10	Cornell University	44		7	0-0-0
Others receiving votes: Robert Morris University 37, Providence College 7, 
Bemidji State University 1, Princeton University 1.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
October 16, 2017
	Team	    (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Denver	        (49)	1- 0-1	999	1
2	Harvard		        0- 0-0	897	3
3	St. Cloud State	( 1)	3- 0-0	886	6
4	North Dakota		3- 0-1	791	8
5	Notre Dame		2- 1-1	772	4
6	Wisconsin		4- 1-0	731	10
7	Boston University	2- 2-0	621	2
8	Minnesota		2- 2-0	583	7
9	Minnesota Duluth	1- 2-1	513	5
10	Providence		2- 1-0	495	9
11	Penn State		2- 2-0	454	11
12	Clarkson		3- 0-1	436	15
13	Boston College		1- 1-1	378	13
14	Minnesota State		2- 1-0	344	NR
15	Michigan Tech		3- 1-1	316	15
16	Northeastern		2- 0-1	310	14
17	New Hampshire		4- 0-0	255	20
18	Quinnipiac		1- 1-1	184	17
19	UMass Lowell		1- 3-0	164	12
20	Air Force		3- 0-1	159	19
Others receiving votes: Cornell 126, Bemidji State 52, Ohio State 9, 
Michigan 8, Omaha 7, Western Michigan 5, Army 2, Vermont 2, Dartmouth 1.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
October 16, 2017
	Team	              Points  (First) Last Poll	Record
1	University of Denver	510	(34)	1	1-0-1
2	St Cloud State Univer	418		4	3-0-0
3	Harvard University	404		3	0-0-0
4	Univer of North Dakota	390		8	3-0-1
5	University of Wisconsin	364		10	4-1-0
6	Univer of Notre Dame	291		6	2-1-1
7	University of Minnesota	280		7	2-2-0
8	Boston University	252		2	2-2-0
9	Providence College	232		5	2-1-0
10	Clarkson University	156		15	3-0-1
11	Penn State University	138		11	2-2-0
12	Minnesota State Univer	122		NR	2-1-0
13	Univer Minnesota Duluth	111		9	1-2-1
14	Northeastern University	107		14	2-0-1
15	Boston College  	67		NR	1-1-1
Others receiving votes: University of New Hampshire 65, Michigan Tech University 41, 
UMass Lowell 37, Quinnipiac University 34, Cornell University 22, 
United States Air Force Academy 15, University of Massachusetts Amherst 10, 
Northern Michigan University 6, Colorado College 4, Ohio State University 4.

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
October 16, 2017
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Wisconsin	(10)	8- 0-0	145	1
2	Clarkson	( 5)	5- 0-1	135	2
3	Boston College		2- 0-0	122	3
4	Ohio State		5- 0-1	101	7
5	Colgate		        4- 0-0	88	8
6	St. Lawrence		2- 0-2	75	4
7	Minnesota		3- 2-1	44	9
8	Minnesota Duluth	2- 4-0	37	5
9	Northeastern		2- 3-1	30	6
10	Cornell		        0- 0-0	18	NR
Others receiving votes: Robert Morris 14, Harvard 6, 
Providence 3, Bemidji State 2, Maine 2, Quinnipiac 2, Merrimack 1.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

I'll post it all, maybe even last week's, later, but the men are 18 and the women 8. Both have moved up.

For completeness sake here's last week.

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
October 23, 2017
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Denver	        (33)	2- 0-2	980	1
2	St. Cloud State	(16)	5- 0-0	955	3
3	Harvard	        ( 1)	0- 0-0	903	2
4	North Dakota		4- 1-1	840	4
5	Wisconsin		5- 2-0	719	6
6	Boston University	3- 2-1	682	7
7	Minnesota		3- 3-0	659	8
8	Notre Dame		3- 2-1	615	5
9	Clarkson		4- 1-1	532	12
10	Minnesota Duluth	2- 2-2	526	9
11	Providence		3- 2-0	493	10
12	Minnesota State		3- 2-0	404	14
13	Quinnipiac		3- 1-1	381	18
14	New Hampshire		5- 1-0	338	17
15	Penn State		3- 3-0	322	11
16	Michigan Tech		4- 2-1	240	15
17	UMass Lowell		3- 3-0	222	19
18	Air Force		4- 1-1	149	20
19	Boston College		1- 3-1	131	13
20	Northeastern		2- 2-1	105	16
Others receiving votes: Ohio State 97, Michigan 67, Cornell 65, 
Bemidji State 45, Colorado College 11, Omaha 10, 
Northern Michigan 4, Vermont 3, Army 2.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
October 23, 2017
	Team	              Points  (First) Last Poll	Record
1	University of Denver	503	(28)	1	2-0-2
2	St Cloud State Univer	476	(6)	2	5-0-0
3	Harvard University	425		3	0-0-0
4	Univer of North Dakota	383		4	4-1-1
5	Univer of Wisconsin	297		5	5-2-0
6	Boston University	279		8	3-2-1
7	University of Minnesota	275		7	3-3-0
8	University of Notre Dame220		6	3-2-1
8	Clarkson University	220		3	3-0-1
10	Providence College	219		9	3-2-0
11	Univer Minnesota Duluth	173		13	2-2-2
12	Univer of New Hampshire	128		NR	5-1-0
13	Quinnipiac University	123		NR	3-1-1
14	Minnesota State Univer	89		12	3-2-0
15	Penn State University	70		11	3-3-0
Others receiving votes: UMass Lowell 64, United States Air Force Academy 44, 
Michigan Tech University 31, Cornell University 21, Boston College 18, Ohio State University 8, 
Northeastern University 6, Northern Michigan University 5, Colorado College 3.

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
October 23, 2017
	Team	      (First)  Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Wisconsin	(11)	10- 0-0	146	1
2	Clarkson	( 4)	7- 0-1	137	2
3	Boston College		4- 0-1	117	3
4	Ohio State		7- 0-1	101	4
5	Colgate		        6- 0-0	93	5
6	Minnesota		5- 2-1	67	7
7	Northeastern		4- 3-1	40	9
7	St. Lawrence		2- 2-2	40	6
9	Cornell		        0- 0-0	22	10
10	Robert Morris		5- 1-0	20	NR
Others receiving votes: Minnesota Duluth 15, Harvard 10, 
Maine 9, Princeton 4, Providence 3, New Hampshire 1.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Women's College Hockey Poll
October 24, 2017
	Team	              Points  (First) Last Poll	Record
1	University of Wisconsin	185	(14)	1	10-0-0
2	Clarkson University	176	(5)	2	7-0-1
3	Boston College	        145		3	4-0-1
4	Ohio State University	130		4	7-0-1
5	Colgate University	124		5	6-0-0
6	University of Minnesota	88		7	5-2-1
7	Northeastern University	59		9	4-3-1
8	St Lawrence University	52		6	2-2-2
9	Cornell University	22		NR	0-0-0
9	Robert Morris University22		10	5-1-0
Others receiving votes: University of Minnesota Duluth 15, University of Maine 8, 
Harvard University 7, University of New Hampshire 5, Princeton University 4, Providence College 3.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

And this week.

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
October 30, 2017
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Denver	        (42)	4- 0-2	991	1
2	St. Cloud State	( 8)	5- 0-0	952	2
3	Harvard		        1- 0-0	900	3
4	North Dakota		5- 2-1	775	4
5	Minnesota		5- 3-0	759	7
6	Providence		5- 2-0	689	11
7	Wisconsin		6- 3-0	654	5
8	Minnesota Duluth	4- 2-2	621	10
9	Minnesota State		5- 2-0	605	12
10	Notre Dame		4- 3-1	515	8
11	Quinnipiac		3- 1-1	459	13
12	Boston University	3- 4-1	436	6
13	Clarkson		4- 3-1	422	9
13	New Hampshire		5- 1-1	422	14
15	Northeastern		4- 2-1	268	20
16	Ohio State		5- 1-2	220	NR
17	Penn State		4- 4-0	194	15
18	Cornell		        2- 0-0	133	NR
19	Air Force		5- 2-1	108	18
20	Michigan Tech		4- 4-1	95	16
Others receiving votes: Michigan 77, Omaha 52, Bemidji State 50, 
Colorado College 47, UMass Lowell 34, Northern Michigan 12, 
Boston College 5, Colgate 2, Miami 2, Brown 1.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
October 30, 2017
	Team	              Points  (First) Last Poll	Record
1	University of Denver	510	(34)	1	4-0-2
2	St. Cloud State Univer	472		2	5-0-0
3	Harvard University	435		3	1-0-0
4	University of Minnesota	384		7	5-3-0
5	Univer of North Dakota	338		4	5-2-1
6	Providence College	327		10	5-2-0
7	University of Wisconsin	271		5	6-3-0
8	Univer Minnesota Duluth	258		11	4-2-2
9	Minnesota State Univer	216		14	5-2-0
10	University of Notre Dame186		T8	4-3-1
11	Boston University	158		6	3-4-1
12	Quinnipiac University	126		13	3-1-1
13	Univer of New Hampshire	119		12	5-1-1
14	Clarkson University	106		T8	4-3-1
15	Northeastern University	57		NR	4-2-1
Others receiving votes: Ohio State University 43, Penn State University 33, 
Cornell University 22, United States Air Force Academy 10, Michigan Tech University 4, 
Colorado College 2, Union College 2, University of Michigan 1.

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
October 30, 2017
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Wisconsin	(15)	12- 0-0	150	1
2	Boston College		6- 0-1	128	3
3	Clarkson		8- 1-1	118	2
4	Ohio State		7- 0-1	110	4
5	Colgate		        7- 1-0	94	5
6	Minnesota		5- 4-1	63	6
7	St. Lawrence		3- 3-2	45	7
8	Cornell		        1- 1-0	35	9
9	Providence		6- 2-2	34	NR
10	Robert Morris		5- 1-2	15	10
Others receiving votes: New Hampshire 12, Harvard 9, 
Northeastern 8, Princeton 3, Minnesota Duluth 1.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

USA/USA Women's doesn't come out till Tuesday. I might not add it on Tuesdays.

Men are up to #14 in the USCHO poll and #12 in the USA Today poll.

Women climb one spot to #7.

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
November 06, 2017
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	St. Cloud State	(50)	7- 0-0	1000	2
2	North Dakota		6- 2-2	913	4
3	Denver		        4- 2-2	870	1
4	Minnesota		7- 3-0	847	5
5	Harvard		        2- 1-0	806	3
6	Notre Dame		6- 3-1	660	10
7	Wisconsin		6- 4-1	605	7
8	Providence		5- 3-0	602	6
9	New Hampshire		6- 1-1	552	13
10	Minnesota State		6- 3-0	547	9
11	Clarkson		6- 3-1	541	13
12	Minnesota Duluth	4- 4-2	442	8
13	Northeastern		5- 2-1	433	15
14	Cornell		        4- 0-0	419	18
15	Boston University	4- 5-1	306	12
16	Quinnipiac		3- 3-1	214	11
17	Ohio State		5- 3-2	155	16
18	Western Michigan	5- 3-1	113	NR
19	Penn State		5- 5-0	79	17
20	Northern Michigan	5- 3-0	61	NR
Others receiving votes: Michigan 55, Colorado College 53, Omaha 52, 
Colgate 45, Bemidji State 41, Michigan Tech 18, 
Air Force 17, Army 17, Boston College 12, Bowling Green 7, 
Niagara 6, Yale 5, UMass Lowell 4, Miami 3.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
November 6, 2017
	Team	              Points (First) Last Poll	Record
1	St. Cloud State Univer	510	(34)	2	7-0-0
2	University of Minnesota	427		4	7-3-0
3	University of Denver	416		1	4-2-2
4	University North Dakota	401		5	6-2-2
5	Harvard University	372		3	2-1-0
6	University of Notre Dame264		10	6-3-1
7	Providence College	245		6	5-3-0
8	University New Hampshire235		13	6-1-1
9	Clarkson University	217		14	6-3-1
10	University of Wisconsin	194		7	6-4-1
11	Minnesota State Univer	187		9	6-3-0
12	Cornell University	166		NR	4-0-0
13	Northeastern University	155		15	5-2-1
14	Univer Minnesota Duluth	85		8	4-4-2
15	Western Michigan Univer	78		NR	5-3-1
Others receiving votes: Boston University 75, Quinnipiac University 18, 
Northern Michigan University 9, Colorado College 7, Ohio State University 7, 
University of Michigan 6, Bowling Green State University 3, 
Army West Point 1, Bemidji State University 1, Penn State University 1.

It's stupid, but looked so nice that I couldn't resist.

Men’s Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	        PWR	W-L-T  Win % Win % Rank	 RPI  RPI Rank
1	St. Cloud State	59	7-0-0	1.000	1t	1.069*	1
2	Cornell	        58	4-0-0	1.000	1t	.8162*	2
3	Minnesota	57	7-3-0	.7000	4t	.6018	3
4	New Hampshire	56	6-1-1	.8125	3	.6002*	4
5	Minnesota State	55	6-3-0	.6667	8t	.5953	5
6	Clarkson	54	6-3-1	.6500	10t	.5815	6
7	North Dakota	53	6-2-2	.7000	4t	.5756*	7
8	Western Michigan52	5-3-1	.6111	18	.5730	8
9	Northeastern	51	5-2-1	.6875	6t	.5663	9
10	Denver	        50	4-2-2	.6250	12t	.5657*	10
11	North Michigan	49	5-3-0	.6250	12t	.5597*	11
12	Colorado College48	6-4-0	.6000	19t	.5550*	12
13	Providence	47	5-3-0	.6250	12t	.5518	13
14	Bowling Green	46	4-3-2	.5556	25	.5517	14
15	Bemidji State	45	4-2-2	.6250	12t	.5509	15
16	Quinnipiac	44	3-3-1	.5000	27t	.5446	16
17	Michigan State	43	4-4-0	.5000	27t	.5396	17
18	Notre Dame	42	6-3-1	.6500	10t	.5389	18
19	Colgate	        41	4-2-4	.6000	19t	.5348*	19
20	Michigan	40	5-3-0	.6250	12t	.5341	20


USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
November 06, 2017
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Wisconsin	(15)	14- 0-0	150	1
2	Boston College		8- 0-1	132	2
3	Clarkson		10- 1-1	122	3
4	Colgate		        9- 1-0	101	5
5	Ohio State		7- 2-1	84	4
6	Minnesota		7- 4-1	74	6
7	Cornell		        3- 1-0	56	8
8	St. Lawrence		5- 3-2	48	7
9	Providence		6- 3-2	23	9
10	Robert Morris		7- 1-2	21	10
Others receiving votes: New Hampshire 13, Northeastern 1.


Women’s National Collegiate PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	        PWR	W-L-T  Win %  Win % Rank RPI  RPI Rank
1	Wisconsin	34	14-0-0	1.000	1t	.8035*	1
2	Colgate	        33	9-1-0	.9000	4	.6699*	3
3	Clarkson	32	10-1-1	.8750	5	.6640*	4
4	Boston College	31	8-0-1	.9444	3	.6457*	5
5	Cornell	        30	3-1-0	.7500	7t	.6377	6
6	Ohio State	29	7-2-1	.7500	7t	.5973	7
7t	New Hampshire	27	6-1-3	.7500	7t	.5847	8
7t	Harvard	        27	2-1-0	.6667	10	.5698	9
9	Minnesota	26	7-4-1	.6250	13	.5590	10
10	Robert Morris	25	7-1-2	.8000	6	.5579	11
11	Providence	24	6-3-2	.6364	12	.5551*	12
12t	St. Lawrence	23	5-3-2	.6000	14	.5534	13
12t	Northeastern	23	5-5-1	.5000	17t	.5325	14
14	Quinnipiac	21	5-6-0	.4545	20	.5276	15

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

Be a little easier to see the most current poll if you change the subject line to include the poll date. I know there's a flag in front of unread messages, too, but it could be a comment on a previous week's poll.

billhoward
Be a little easier to see the most current poll if you change the subject line to include the poll date. I know there's a flag in front of unread messages, too, but it could be a comment on a previous week's poll.

Check out the change for the 11/6 polls. Is that what you mean? I thought putting the date first might be even easier, or does that screw up something else?

That's perfect, dating it at the beginning (or end, doesn't matter). You were the only one. Thank you. It's a good thing, too, for threads where one subject line covers the whole basketball or lacrosse season.

Up to 6th in USCHO with 4 first place votes, our most since January 19, 2009.

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
November 13, 2017
	Team	       (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Denver	        (43)	6- 2-2	992	3
2	St. Cloud State	( 1)	7- 2-0	914	1
3	North Dakota	( 2)	7- 2-3	913	2
4	Notre Dame		8- 3-1	809	6
5	Minnesota State		8- 3-0	710	10
6	Cornell	        ( 4)	6- 0-0	709	14
7	Minnesota		7- 4-1	699	4
8	Clarkson		8- 3-1	670	11
9	Wisconsin		7- 5-1	542	7
10	Providence		6- 4-0	507	8
11	New Hampshire		6- 3-1	434	9
12	Northeastern		6- 3-1	432	13
13	Harvard		        2- 3-0	422	5
14	Minnesota Duluth	5- 5-2	327	12
15	Western Michigan	6- 4-1	259	18
16	Ohio State		6- 3-3	256	17
17	Michigan		6- 3-1	230	NR
18	Boston University	5- 6-1	208	15
19	Colgate		        6- 2-4	165	NR
20	Northern Michigan	6- 4-0	74	20
Others receiving votes: Boston College 61, Colorado College 49, 
Omaha 28, UMass Lowell 19, Bowling Green 17, Army 12, Penn State 10, 
Quinnipiac 10, Union 7, Yale 6, Niagara 4, Bemidji State 2, 
Rochester Institute of Technology 2, Princeton 1.

Men’s Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	        PWR	W-L-T  Win % Win % Rank	RPI	RPI Rank
1	Cornell	        59	6-0-0	1.000	1	.7309*	1
2t	St. Cloud State	57	7-2-0	.7778	2	.6342*	2
2t	Denver	        57	6-2-2	.7000	7	.6261*	3
4	Minnesota State	56	8-3-0	.7273	3	.6053	4
5t	Clarkson	55	8-3-1	.7083	4t	.5894*	5
5t	Western Michigan55	6-4-1	.5909	20t	.5772	6
7	Minnesota	53	7-4-1	.6250	13t	.5744	7
8	Notre Dame	52	8-3-1	.7083	4t	.5672	8
9	Michigan	51	6-3-1	.6500	9t	.5524*	9
10	North Dakota	50	7-2-3	.7083	4t	.5517*	10
11	New Hampshire	49	6-3-1	.6500	9t	.5515	11
12	NorthernMichigan48	6-4-0	.6000	16t	.5500	12
13	Omaha	        47	4-3-1	.5625	24	.5499	13
14	Northeastern	46	6-3-1	.6500	9t	.5495	14
15	Colgate	        45	6-2-4	.6667	8	.5430	15
16	Bowling Green	44	5-3-3	.5909	20t	.5338	16

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I feel like forgetting about the USA poll. It's so late for men's and women's not till Tuesday.

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
November 13, 2017
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Wisconsin	(15)	16- 0-0	150	1
2	Boston College		9- 1-1	127	2
3	Colgate		        11- 1-0	119	4
4	Clarkson		11- 2-1	109	3
5	Ohio State		9- 2-1	87	5
6	Minnesota		9- 4-1	75	6
7	St. Lawrence		6- 4-2	55	8
8	Cornell		        3- 3-0	46	7
9	Robert Morris		9- 1-2	33	10
10	Providence		6- 3-3	21	9
Others receiving votes: Harvard 2, New Hampshire 1.

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Up to #5 in USA Today poll. They list us as Cornell COLLEGE. Geesh!

GBR1234
Up to #5 in USA Today poll. They list us as Cornell COLLEGE. Geesh!

Just goes to show how knowledgeable pollsters are.

Despite our divide-by-zero winning percentage, are #50 in SOS according to KRACH. You have to go down to #26 Niagara before finding someone with a weaker SOS.
[www.uscho.com]

KenP
Despite our divide-by-zero winning percentage, are #50 in SOS according to KRACH. You have to go down to #26 Niagara before finding someone with a weaker SOS.
[www.uscho.com]

That will rise when Harvard starts consistently winning as I (and I assume many others here) expect. I'm not convinced with QPac.

CU2007

KenP
Despite our divide-by-zero winning percentage, are #50 in SOS according to KRACH. You have to go down to #26 Niagara before finding someone with a weaker SOS.
[www.uscho.com]

That will rise when Harvard starts consistently winning as I (and I assume many others here) expect. I'm not convinced with QPac.

Agreed. And in the meantime, I really can't argue with #50. Our OOC SOS is exceptionally weak this year, which is why it's especially nice that we've started league play 4-0.

Win them all and it don't matter.

6 down, 31 to go.

NCAA voters let us off easy: 6-1 win over SLU, 4-0 loss to Clarkson only drops Cornell [University] from 6th to 7th. Maybe because we're the only one-loss team left. [www.ncaa.com] Clarkson climbs 8th to 5th; fair enough.

billhoward
NCAA voters let us off easy: 6-1 win over SLU, 4-0 loss to Clarkson only drops Cornell [University] from 6th to 7th. Maybe because we're the only one-loss team left. [www.ncaa.com] Clarkson climbs 8th to 5th; fair enough.

Same result in USA Today poll (7th, with Clarkson moving up to #5).

So when was the last time that the only ECAC teams with meaningful rankings in either polls or PWR, in both Men's and Women's, were all from NY.

And virtually the same 3 teams Clarkson, Colgate, and Cornell, for Men's and Women's.

And they all begin with C.

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
November 20, 2017
Team	              (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Denver	        (30)	7- 3-2	976	1
2	St. Cloud State	(18)	9- 2-0	953	2
3	North Dakota	( 2)	8- 3-3	903	3
4	Notre Dame		10- 3-1	836	4
5	Clarkson		10- 3-1	759	8
6	Minnesota		9- 4-1	745	7
7	Cornell		        7- 1-0	686	6
8	Minnesota State		9- 4-0	653	5
9	Wisconsin		8- 5-2	572	9
10	Providence		7- 4-1	531	10
11	Western Michigan	8- 4-1	489	15
12	Northeastern		7- 4-1	408	12
13	New Hampshire		6- 4-1	363	11
14	Boston College		8- 5-1	333	NR
15	Ohio State		6- 3-3	272	16
16	Minnesota Duluth	6- 6-2	257	14
17	Michigan		6- 4-2	208	17
18	Colgate		        7- 3-4	164	19
19	Boston University	6- 7-1	80	18
19	UMass Lowell		8- 6-0	80	NR
Others receiving votes: Harvard 68, Northern Michigan 54, 
Bowling Green 43, Michigan State 12, Quinnipiac 11, Holy Cross 9, 
Penn State 8, Niagara 7, Union 5, Yale 5, Army 4, Bemidji State 3, 
Rochester Institute of Technology 2, Colorado College 1.


USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
November 20, 2017
Team	                      Points  (First) Last Poll	Record
1	University of Denver	490	(20)	1	7-3-2
2	St Cloud State Univer	485	(9)	2	9-2-0
3	University North Dakota	449		3	8-3-3
4	University Notre Dame	386		4	10-3-1
5	Clarkson University	362	(3)	7	10-3-1
6	University of Minnesota	328	(2)	6	9-4-1
7	Cornell University	274		5	7-1-0
8	Minnesota State Univer	260		8	9-4-0
9	Western Michigan Univer	206		14	8-4-1
10	University of Wisconsin	204		10	8-5-2
11	Providence College	193		9	7-4-1
12	Northeastern University	149		13	7-4-1
13	Boston College	         71		NR	8-5-1
14	University New Hampshire 62		12	6-4-1
15	Univer Minnesota Duluth	 60		15	6-6-2
Others receiving votes: Ohio State University 31, University of Michigan 23, 
Colgate University 20, Harvard University 16, Union College 8, 
UMass Lowell 2, Bowling Green State University 1.


Men’s Division I PairWise Rankings
Rank	Team	        PWR	W-L-T  Win % Win % Rank	RPI	RPI Rank
1t	St. Cloud State	58	9-2-0	.8182	2	.6485*	1
1t	Denver	        58	7-3-2	.6667	8	.6109*	2
3t	Clarkson	57	10-3-1	.7500	3t	.6103*	3
3t	Western Michigan57	8-4-1	.6538	9	.6053	4
5	Cornell	        55	7-1-0	.8750	1	.6040*	5
6	Minnesota	54	9-4-1	.6786	6t	.5949	6
7	Minnesota State	53	9-4-0	.6923	5	.5913	7
8	North Dakota	52	8-3-3	.6786	6t	.5780*	8
9	Notre Dame	51	10-3-1	.7500	3t	.5746	9
10	Michigan State	50	7-5-0	.5833	21t	.5611	10
11	Bowling Green	49	6-4-3	.5769	24	.5610	11
12	Boston College	48	8-5-1	.6071	16	.5568*	12
13	Michigan	47	6-4-2	.5833	21t	.5422	13
14	Providence	46	7-4-1	.6250	12t	.5377	14
15	North Michigan	45	7-5-0	.5833	21t	.5356	15
16	Wisconsin	44	8-5-2	.6000	17	.5341	16

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
November 20, 2017
Team	              (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Wisconsin	(15)	16- 0-0	150	1
2	Colgate		        13- 1-0	127	3
3	Boston College		10- 1-2	125	2
4	Clarkson		12- 3-1	101	4
5	Ohio State		10- 2-2	88	5
6	Minnesota		11- 4-1	79	6
7	St. Lawrence		7- 4-3	52	7
8	Cornell		        5- 3-0	49	8
9	Robert Morris		9- 1-2	28	9
10	Providence		8- 3-3	25	10
Others receiving votes: New Hampshire 1.


Women’s National Collegiate PairWise Rankings
Rank	Team	       PWR      W-L-T  Win %  Win % Rank RPI	RPI Rank
1	Wisconsin	34	16-0-0	1.000	1t	.7906*	1
2	Colgate	        33	13-1-0	.9286	3	.6676*	3
3	Boston College	32	10-1-2	.8462	4	.6189	4
4	Clarkson	31	12-3-1	.7812	7	.6085*	5
5	Ohio State	30	10-2-2	.7857	6	.6058*	6
6	Cornell	        29	5-3-0	.6250	11t	.5853	7
7	Minnesota	28	11-4-1	.7188	8	.5772	8
8	Providence	27	8-3-3	.6786	9	.5659*	9
9	St. Lawrence	26	7-4-3	.6071	13t	.5653	10
10	Robert Morris	25	9-1-2	.8333	5	.5611	11
11	Maine	        24	9-6-1	.5938	15	.5399	12
12	Quinnipiac	23	8-7-0	.5333	17	.5323	13
13	New Hampshire	22	6-3-5	.6071	13t	.5298	14
14	Harvard	        21	4-2-1	.6429	10	.5275	15


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Up to 5th in both USCHO and USA.

Miami is tied (with Harvard, among others) for 27 in USCHO.

 3. Clarkson
 5. Cornell
17. Colgate
19. Union
27. Harvard

Trotsky
Up to 5th in both USCHO and USA.

Miami is tied (with Harvard, among others) for 27 in USCHO.

 3. Clarkson
 5. Cornell
17. Colgate
19. Union
27. Harvard

Seems about right for the top 4 teams. BU was 18, and they took us to the wire. Colgate & Union are 17 & 19. Beware!

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
November 27, 2017
	Team	     (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Denver	        (39)	7- 3-2	984	1
2	St. Cloud State	( 9)	9- 2-0	946	2
3	Clarkson	( 1)	12- 3-1	862	5
4	Notre Dame	( 1)	12- 3-1	860	4
5	Cornell		        9- 1-0	793	7
6	North Dakota		8- 4-4	714	3
7	Minnesota		9- 6-1	676	6
8	Minnesota State		9- 5-0	568	8
9	Providence		8- 5-1	512	10
10	Western Michigan	9- 5-1	501	11
11	Ohio State		8- 3-3	465	15
12	Northeastern		7- 4-1	425	12
13	New Hampshire		7- 4-1	386	13
14	Wisconsin		9- 6-2	382	9
15	Boston College		8- 5-2	375	14
16	Minnesota Duluth	7- 6-2	300	16
17	Colgate		        8- 4-4	260	18
18	UMass Lowell		8- 6-0	142	19
19	Union		        8- 6-1	130	NR
20	Omaha		        6- 5-1	65	NR
Others receiving votes: Michigan 48, Boston University 22, 
Niagara 19, Michigan State 14, Canisius 11, Penn State 11, 
Bemidji State 3, Bowling Green 3, Harvard 3, Holy Cross 3, 
Miami 3, Colorado College 2, Massachusetts 1.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
November 27, 2017
	Team	               Points (First) Last Poll	Record
1	University of Denver	508	(32)	1	7-3-2
2	St Cloud State Univer	466	(1)	2	9-2-0
3	University of Notre Dame444	(1)	4	12-3-1
4	Clarkson University	414		5	12-3-1
5	Cornell University	359		7	9-1-0
6	University North Dakota	323		3	8-4-4
7	University of Minnesota	304		6	9-6-1
8	Western Michigan Univer	220		9	9-5-1
9	Providence College	201		11	8-5-1
10	Minnesota State Univer	184		8	9-5-0
11	Northeastern University	159		12	7-4-1
12	University of Wisconsin	131		10	9-6-2
13	Ohio State University	128		NR	8-3-3
14	University New Hampshire 82		14	7-4-1
15	Univer Minnesota Duluth	 52		15	7-6-2
Others receiving votes: Boston College 49, Union College 31, 
Colgate, UMass Lowell 1.


Men’s Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	       PWR	W-L-T  Win %  Win % Rank RPI	RPI Rank
1t	St. Cloud State	58	9-2-0	.8182	2	.6464*	1
1t	Clarkson	58	12-3-1	.7812	3t	.6203*	2
3	Denver	        57	7-3-2	.6667	6	.6137*	3
4	Notre Dame	56	12-3-1	.7812	3t	.6069*	4
5t	Cornell	        55	9-1-0	.9000	1	.6031*	5
5t	Western Michigan55	9-5-1	.6333	9	.5851	6
7	Minnesota	53	9-6-1	.5938	16	.5680	7
8	Minnesota State	52	9-5-0	.6429	8	.5615	8
9	Omaha	        51	6-5-1	.5417	21t	.5562	9
10	Ohio State	50	8-3-3	.6786	5	.5521	10
11	North Dakota	49	8-4-4	.6250	10t	.5499*	11
12	Boston College	48	8-5-2	.6000	15	.5482	12
13t	Colgate	        46	8-4-4	.6250	10t	.5460	13
13t	Providence	46	8-5-1	.6071	14	.5452	14
13t	New Hampshire	46	7-4-1	.6250	10t	.5376	15
16	Minnesota Duluth44	7-6-2	.5333	25t	.5353	16
17	UMass Lowell	43	8-6-0	.5714	19	.5300	17
18t	Michigan State	41	7-6-1	.5357	24	.5298	18
18t	Northeastern	41	7-4-1	.6250	10t	.5294	19
20	Union	        40	8-6-1	.5667	20	.5232	20
21t	Canisius	39	8-4-1	.6538	7	.5208	21

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
November 27, 2017
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Wisconsin	(15)	17- 1-0	150	1
2	Boston College		11- 1-2	130	3
3	Colgate		        14- 2-0	115	2
4	Clarkson		12- 3-1	109	4
5	Ohio State		11- 3-2	82	5
6	Minnesota		13- 4-1	78	6
7	Cornell		        7- 3-1	57	8
8	St. Lawrence		7- 4-3	53	7
9	Robert Morris		10- 2-2	29	9
10	Providence		9- 5-3	14	10
Others receiving votes: Northeastern 7, Minnesota Duluth 1.

Women’s National Collegiate PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	       PWR	W-L-T   Win % Win % Rank RPI	RPI Rank
1	Wisconsin	34	17-1-0	.9444	2	.7096*	2
2	Colgate	        33	14-2-0	.8750	3	.6302*	3
3	Boston College	32	11-1-2	.8571	4	.6261*	4
4	Clarkson	31	12-3-1	.7812	6	.6053*	5
5	Ohio State	30	11-3-2	.7500	7t	.5892	6
6	Cornell	        29	7-3-1	.6818	9	.5878	7
7	Minnesota	28	13-4-1	.7500	7t	.5782	8
8	Robert Morris	27	10-2-2	.7857	5	.5692	9
9	St. Lawrence	26	7-4-3	.6071	14	.5633	10
10	Providence	25	9-5-3	.6176	11	.5500	11
11	Northeastern	24	9-7-2	.5556	15	.5450	12
12	Maine	        23	10-6-2	.6111	12t	.5373	13
13	Harvard	        22	5-3-1	.6111	12t	.5273	14
14	Quinnipiac	21	8-7-2	.5294	18t	.5246	15

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Pictorial representation of Cornell in the poll since 1996.

Nice table. FYP.

That is awesome.

If you do one for the Women's team, do you use Ms. Pac-man?

And where are Blinky, Pinky, Inky and Feola?

Beeeej
And where are Blinky, Pinky, Inky and Feola?

Feola's there. What, you can't see him?

Jeff Hopkins '82
If you do one for the Women's team, do you use Ms. Pac-man?

If I did one for the women's team it would be almost solid red and orange.

Speaking of which, I would DEARLY LOVE to have our rankings in the polls for all the other years so I could do similar presentations and amend our old box scores with our (and opponents' rankings).

That would be a lot of fun.

So if somebody had, oh, I dunno... decades and decades of old programs and Don Birkmeyer and other resources, that would be a great source of that data.

Consider side eye given.

Trotsky

Jeff Hopkins '82
If you do one for the Women's team, do you use Ms. Pac-man?

If I did one for the women's team it would be almost solid red and orange.

Speaking of which, I would DEARLY LOVE to have our rankings in the polls for all the other years so I could do similar presentations and amend our old box scores with our (and opponents' rankings).

That would be a lot of fun.

So if somebody had, oh, I dunno... decades and decades of old programs and Don Birkmeyer and other resources, that would be a great source of that data.

Consider side eye given.

Yeah, yeah I know. I've made some progress, in that I've brought the boxes up from the basement and that means Sherri won't let me leave them in view forever.

But I don't know how I'd get you the data. Once I do an inventory, I plan on giving them to the library, and if they'd scan them and put them online, I might donate some money.

I guess once they're in Ithaca, you could view them when you come. But considering how long it's taken me to get this far (and that ain't far), I don't think you can rely upon me to get you the data.

However, it turns out I may not be going to Miami. If not, I'll devote some time to doing an inventory.

isnt most of this pretty easy to get from the SUN archives?

upprdeck
isnt most of this pretty easy to get from the SUN archives?

In a word?

No.

I've done something like 95% of the box scores, from a hundred different sources over, well, 30 years of work including work by many busy beaver assistants and also Art's incredible records. But that doesn't get me the poll data.

The best bet would be the Boston Globe, which did a very decent job of reporting polls at least from the 80s onwards, or Birkmeyer since I believe he faithfully reported the polls from the 50s through the 80s. Until recently at least the Globe archiving project was proceeding slooooooooooooowly, but I haven't checked for about a year. Their indexing is horrific so it's almost like mounting old microfiche and scrolling through it. If ever there was a job for AI.

Edit: It appears they have no gone back prior to 1980, and what little they have is behind a pay wall. Fuck that.

It's extremely labor intensive so you really need somebody like me with exceedingly low self esteem to dig through it all.

If at some point all that shit is scanned and uploaded then all that is needed is picking through it like an enormous data garbage heap. I'm cool with that.

Trotsky

upprdeck
isnt most of this pretty easy to get from the SUN archives?

In a word?


Edit: It appears they have no gone back prior to 1980, and what little they have is behind a pay wall. Fuck that.

It's extremely labor intensive so you really need somebody like me with exceedingly low self esteem to dig through it all.

If at some point all that shit is scanned and uploaded then all that is needed is picking through it like an enormous data garbage heap. I'm cool with that.

I'm a Globe subscriber online, so I can get behind the pay wall. What exactly do you want searched for...I can donate a small amount of time

abmarks

Trotsky

upprdeck
isnt most of this pretty easy to get from the SUN archives?

In a word?


Edit: It appears they have no gone back prior to 1980, and what little they have is behind a pay wall. Fuck that.

It's extremely labor intensive so you really need somebody like me with exceedingly low self esteem to dig through it all.

If at some point all that shit is scanned and uploaded then all that is needed is picking through it like an enormous data garbage heap. I'm cool with that.

I'm a Globe subscriber online, so I can get behind the pay wall. What exactly do you want searched for...I can donate a small amount of time

As much as I appreciate it, it won't be a small amount of time.

isnt it all free if you go thru the cornell archives?

upprdeck
isnt it all free if you go thru the cornell archives?

You're assuming (1) there are Cornell archives and (2) we have an AD or SID who returns emails.

Obviously the last 25+ years of work would have been easier with Cornell's help. For whatever reason that has never been forthcoming despite many approaches.

The smaller the fiefdom, the more jealously guarded.

no i mean you can get to all the boston globe stuff for free thru the cornell archives for free.

upprdeck
no i mean you can get to all the boston globe stuff for free thru the cornell archives for free.

How?

anyone with cornell access can get to most any paper thru the library system. but you need a netid

Yes with an active netid you can get things like the Globe going way back through things like the library's subscription to the Proquest Historical Newspapers collection.
Some services require a student or faculty netid and alumni aren't covered, but many services are covered for alumni netids too: [alumni.library.cornell.edu]

Pick any major newspaper and search the Cornell library catalog, taking into account changes in publication name over time, and chances are it is online through one or more of the resources the library subscribes to or has digitized themselves:

Boston Globe up to 1960: [newcatalog.library.cornell.edu]
1960 to Present:
[newcatalog.library.cornell.edu]

In searching the Globe archive, I found it amusing that at least since 1951 they were discussing issues surrounding the NCAA team selection. Globe, March 1951:

upprdeck
anyone with cornell access can get to most any paper thru the library system. but you need a netid

Oh. Huh, I will have to try this.

And Greg, you'll be happy to know that I brought my stuff in and started working on it. I'm starting with the "Intercollegiate Hockey Newsletter". I'm going to see what issues I'm missing and whether RPI or UNH, the 2 schools that I know have many issues in their library system, could fill in my gaps. Then, before doing anything more, I'll contact CU and see what we can do. I don't have any idea what it would cost to get them posted, but I'll ask.

Hopefully RPI will augment mine, as I suspect I might be able to look at them and hopefully copy what I need. Maybe I have some they can use.

So do any of our RPI fans have any contacts in their library system? I know they have online which issues they have, but if I'm going to copy some, I might need to get some sort of authorization. I think Mr. Birkmayer would give his okay.

With any luck, but I'm working this weekend, I'll at least get them inventoried this weekend.

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
December 04, 2017
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Denver	        (39)	9- 3-2	987	1
2	St. Cloud State	( 9)	11- 2-0	947	2
3	Clarkson	( 1)	13- 3-1	879	3
4	Notre Dame	( 1)	14- 3-1	874	4
5	North Dakota		10- 4-4	792	6
6	Cornell		        10- 2-0	756	5
7	Minnesota		10- 7-1	667	7
8	Minnesota State		9- 5-0	643	8
9	Providence		9- 6-1	571	9
10	Northeastern		9- 5-1	467	12
11	Western Michigan	9- 7-1	450	10
12	Wisconsin		10- 7-2	432	14
13	New Hampshire		8- 5-1	412	13
14	Boston College		9- 6-2	396	15
15	Ohio State		8- 4-4	388	11
16	Colgate		        8- 5-4	176	17
17	Minnesota Duluth	7- 8-2	160	16
18	Penn State		9- 7-2	138	NR
19	Union		        9- 7-1	115	19
20	Niagara		        9- 5-1	62	NR
Others receiving votes: UMass Lowell 36, Omaha 32, 
Bowling Green 30, Michigan 29, Boston University 28, Miami 13, 
Massachusetts 6, Canisius 5, Harvard 5, Army 3, Colorado College 1.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
December 4, 2017
	Team	              Points  (First) Last Poll	Record
1	University of Denver	506	(30)	1	9-3-2
2	St. Cloud State Univer	472	(3)	2	11-2-0
3	Clarkson University	431	(1)	4	13-3-1
4	University of Notre Dame425		3	14-3-1
5	University North Dakota	364		6	10-4-4
6	Cornell University	348		5	10-2-0
7	University of Minnesota	286		7	10-7-1
8	Minnesota State Univer	253		10	9-5-0
9	Providence College	244		9	9-6-1
10	Western Michigan Univer	168		8	9-7-1
11	Northeastern University	136		11	9-5-1
12	University of Wisconsin	107		12	10-7-2
13	Ohio State University	101		13	8-4-4
14	Boston College	         95		NR	9-6-2
15	University New Hampshire 88		14	8-5-1
Others receiving votes: Penn State University 17, University of Minnesota Duluth 17, 
Union College 12, Colgate University 7, University of Nebraska Omaha 3.

Men’s Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	        PWR	W-L-T  Win %  Win % Rank  RPI	RPI Rank
1	Denver	        59	9-3-2	.7143	5	.6227*	2
2	St. Cloud State	58	11-2-0	.8462	1	.6536*	1
3	Clarkson	57	13-3-1	.7941	4	.6162*	3
4	Notre Dame	56	14-3-1	.8056	3	.6152*	4
5	Cornell	        55	10-2-0	.8333	2	.5924*	5
6	North Dakota	54	10-4-4	.6667	6	.5724*	6
7	Minnesota	53	10-7-1	.5833	16	.5637	7
8	Minnesota State	52	9-5-0	.6429	7	.5599	8
9	Western Michigan51	9-7-1	.5588	19t	.5576	9
10	Providence	50	9-6-1	.5938	13	.5485	10
11	Boston College	49	9-6-2	.5882	14t	.5430	11
12	Ohio State	48	8-4-4	.6250	10	.5401	12
13	Penn State	47	9-7-2	.5556	22	.5360	13
14	Omaha	        46	6-7-1	.4643	37t	.5345	14
15t	New Hampshire	44	8-5-1	.6071	11t	.5310	15
15t	Wisconsin	44	10-7-2	.5789	17	.5289	16
17	Colgate	        43	8-5-4	.5882	14t	.5285	17

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
December 04, 2017
	Team	       (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Wisconsin	(15)	19- 1-0	150	1
2	Boston College		13- 1-3	132	2
3	Clarkson		14- 3-1	122	4
4	Colgate		        15- 3-0	106	3
5	Cornell		         8- 4-1	79	7
6	Minnesota		14- 5-1	71	6
7	Ohio State		11- 3-4	69	5
8	Providence		10- 5-4	31	10
8	St. Lawrence	 	 7- 6-3	31	8
10	Robert Morris		11- 3-2	30	9
Others receiving votes: Northeastern 3, Maine 1.

Women’s National Collegiate PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	        PWR	W-L-T  Win %  Win % Rank  RPI	RPI Rank
1	Wisconsin	34	19-1-0	.9500	2	.6994*	2
2	Colgate	        33	15-3-0	.8333	4	.6321*	3
3	Boston College	32	13-1-3	.8529	3	.6271	4
4	Clarkson	31	14-3-1	.8056	5	.6269*	5
5	Cornell	        30	8-4-1	.6538	9	.5918*	6
6	Minnesota	29	14-5-1	.7250	7	.5746	7
7	Ohio State	28	11-3-4	.7222	8	.5731	8
8	Providence	27	10-5-4	.6316	10	.5524	9
9	Robert Morris	26	11-3-2	.7500	6	.5506	10
10	St. Lawrence	25	7-6-3	.5312	16	.5459	11

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

I have the IHN back to 1969 or 1970. As opposed to you, my copies are on a top shelf in a closet, but they have gotten somewhat out of order.

Assuming that he is still alive, your best bet might be to contact the original publisher Don Birkmayer (RPI '49), who moved to Ithaca when he retired.

ursusminor
I have the IHN back to 1969 or 1970. As opposed to you, my copies are on a top shelf in a closet, but they have gotten somewhat out of order.

Assuming that he is still alive, your best bet might be to contact the original publisher Don Birkmayer (RPI '49), who moved to Ithaca when he retired.

Thanks, I've talked to him, in fact brought a Sun reporter with me to interview him a couple of years ago. Article in the Sun resulted.

He no longer has anything. It was all given to the guy who kept it up for a couple more years, before it folded. I've got his name, but no address (western Mass).

I know I'm short a couple of issues in the post '66 years. That's when I started. When I index them, I may contact you about those I'm missing.

But I need pre '67 issues.

No problem. If you contact me, do it by private message or email. I read eLynah on a very random basis.

ursusminor
I have the IHN back to 1969 or 1970. As opposed to you, my copies are on a top shelf in a closet, but they have gotten somewhat out of order.

Assuming that he is still alive, your best bet might be to contact the original publisher Don Birkmayer (RPI '49), who moved to Ithaca when he retired.

Well, we clearly need to get together finally.

North Dakota ties one, loses one while Cornell DNP. Cornell up one to fifth place, ND down one to sixth. [www.uscho.com]

5 in USA too.

Team always fares better in weeks when they study for exams. No chance of losing games or ground.

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
December 11, 2017
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	St. Cloud State	(35)	12- 2-1	978	2
2	Denver	        ( 8)	9- 3-4	918	1
3	Notre Dame	( 6)	16- 3-1	907	4
4	Clarkson	( 1)	15- 3-1	893	3
5	Cornell		        10- 2-0	760	6
6	North Dakota		10- 5-5	758	5
7	Minnesota State		11- 5-0	694	8
8	Northeastern		10- 5-1	617	10
9	Ohio State		10- 4-4	566	15
10	Minnesota		10- 9-1	519	7
11	Providence		10- 7-1	516	9
12	Western Michigan	10- 8-1	433	11
13	Wisconsin		10- 9-2	335	12
14	Boston College		9- 7-2	327	14
15	Penn State		11- 7-2	322	18
16	New Hampshire		9- 7-1	260	13
17	Minnesota Duluth	8- 9-2	150	17
18	Colgate		        8- 6-4	129	16
19	Union		        10- 8-1	74	19
20	Canisius		10- 5-1	69	NR
Others receiving votes: Bowling Green 61, Colorado College 50, 
Miami 37, UMass Lowell 33, Omaha 26, Boston University 20, Harvard 16, 
Michigan 14, Massachusetts 10, Niagara 4, Army 2, Bentley 1, Maine 1.


USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
December 11, 2017
	Team	              Points  (First) Last Poll	Record
1	St. Cloud State Univer	502	(27)	2	12-2-1
2	University of Denver	451	(3)	1	9-3-4
3	University of Notre Dame448	(3)	4	16-3-1
4	Clarkson University	435	(1)	3	15-3-1
5	Cornell University	353		6	10-2-0
6	University North Dakota	344		5	10-5-5
7	Minnesota State Univer	308		8	11-5-0
8	Northeastern University	233		11	10-5-1
9	Ohio State University	223		13	10-4-4
10	University of Minnesota	182		7	10-9-1
11	Providence College	177		9	10-7-1
12	Western Michigan Univer	159		10	10-8-1
13	Penn State University	91		NR	11-7-2
14	Boston College	        73		14	9-7-2
15	University of Wisconsin	55		12	10-9-2
Others receiving votes: University of New Hampshire 16, Union College 11, 
University of Minnesota Duluth 7, Canisius College 5, Colgate University 4, 
University of Michigan 2, University of Nebraska Omaha 1.

Men’s Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	       PWR	W-L-T  Win % Win % Rank	RPI	RPI Rank
1	St. Cloud State	59	12-2-1	.8333	1t	.6408*	1
2	Notre Dame	58	16-3-1	.8250	3	.6158*	2
3	Clarkson	57	15-3-1	.8158	4	.6108*	3
4	Denver	        56	9-3-4	.6875	5t	.6086*	4
5	Cornell	        55	10-2-0	.8333	1t	.5853*	5
6	Minnesota State	54	11-5-0	.6875	5t	.5666	6
7	North Dakota	53	10-5-5	.6250	10	.5665*	7
8	Ohio State	52	10-4-4	.6667	7	.5606	8
9	Minnesota	51	10-9-1	.5250	25	.5454	9
10	Western Michigan50	10-8-1	.5526	19t	.5446	10
11	Penn State	49	11-7-2	.6000	11	.5428	11
12	Northeastern	48	10-5-1	.6562	8t	.5385	12
13	Providence	47	10-7-1	.5833	12	.5382	13
14	Boston College	46	9-7-2	.5556	17t	.5337	14
15	Omaha	        45	7-8-1	.4688	39t	.5319	15
16	Minnesota Duluth44	8-9-2	.4737	36	.5318	16
17	Colorado College43	7-7-2	.5000	27t	.5316*	17
18	Canisius	42	10-5-1	.6562	8t	.5292	18

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
December 11, 2017
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Wisconsin	(15)	21- 1-0	150	1
2	Boston College		15- 1-3	133	2
3	Clarkson		17- 3-1	120	3
4	Colgate		        15- 3-1	105	4
5	Cornell		        8- 4-1	84	5
6	Minnesota		15- 5-2	69	6
7	Ohio State		11- 3-4	63	7
8	Providence		11- 5-4	37	8
9	Robert Morris		11- 3-3	30	10
10	St. Lawrence		9- 6-3	29	8
Others receiving votes: Maine 3, Bemidji State 1, Northeastern 1.

Women’s National Collegiate PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	       PWR	W-L-T   Win % Win % Rank  RPI	RPI Rank
1	Wisconsin	34	21-1-0	.9545	1	.7014*	1
2	Clarkson	33	17-3-1	.8333	4	.6284*	3
3	Colgate	        32	15-3-1	.8158	5	.6268*	4
4	Boston College	31	15-1-3	.8684	3	.6260*	5
5	Cornell	        30	8-4-1	.6538	9	.5896*	6
6	Minnesota	29	15-5-2	.7273	7	.5800*	7
7	Ohio State	28	11-3-4	.7222	8	.5787	8
8	Providence	27	11-5-4	.6500	10	.5552	9
9	St. Lawrence	26	9-6-3	.5833	14	.5524	10
10	Robert Morris	25	11-3-3	.7353	6	.5479	11
11	Maine	        24	12-6-3	.6429	11	.5413	12

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

Ffffive!

Or you could say 5 + 5, men and women. But of course, all that it means is that the voters have caught up with the machines, PWR.

Trotsky

Is that George "The Animal" Steele? The guy with the green tongue?

TimV

Trotsky

Is that George "The Animal" Steele? The guy with the green tongue?

King Kong Bundy!

billhoward
Team always fares better in weeks when they study for exams. No chance of losing games or ground.

To prove your point, Clarkson swept SLUt and dropped one place.

George "The Animal" Steele

Swampy

billhoward
Team always fares better in weeks when they study for exams. No chance of losing games or ground.

To prove your point, Clarkson swept SLUt and dropped one place.

Telegraph lines from Potsdam were down.

How often does he clean the shower drain?

No polls this week, and don't know about the next 2, but thought I'd keep track of the PWRs.

Men’s Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	        PWR	W-L-T  Win %  Win % Rank  RPI	RPI Rank
1	St. Cloud State	59	12-2-1	.8333	1t	.6379*	1
2	Notre Dame	58	16-3-1	.8250	3	.6130*	2
3	Clarkson	57	15-3-1	.8158	4	.6102*	3
4	Cornell	        56	10-2-0	.8333	1t	.5872*	4
5	Denver	        55	10-4-4	.6667	6t	.5861*	5
6	Minnesota State	54	13-5-0	.7222	5	.5737	6
7	North Dakota	53	10-5-5	.6250	10	.5619*	7
8	Ohio State	52	10-4-4	.6667	6t	.5611	8
9	Minnesota	51	10-9-1	.5250	28	.5446	9
10	Western Michigan50	10-8-1	.5526	19t	.5418	10
11	Penn State	49	11-7-2	.6000	11	.5409	11
12	Providence	48	10-7-1	.5833	12	.5398	12
13	Northeastern	47	10-5-2	.6471	9	.5379	13
14	Boston College	46	9-7-2	.5556	17t	.5338	14
15	Omaha	        45	7-8-1	.4688	38	.5318	15
16	Minnesota Duluth44	8-9-2	.4737	35	.5294	16
17	Canisius	43	10-5-1	.6562	8	.5291	17
18t	Bowling Green	41	8-5-6	.5789	13	.5258	18
18t	Colorado College41	8-7-3	.5278	26t	.5255*	19
18t	Miami	        41	8-8-2	.5000	30t	.5252	20

Women’s National Collegiate PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	       PWR	W-L-T   Win %  Win % Rank  RPI	RPI Rank
1	Wisconsin	34	21-1-0	.9545	1	.6986*	1
2	Clarkson	33	17-3-1	.8333	4	.6287*	3
3	Colgate	        32	15-3-1	.8158	5	.6281*	4
4	Boston College	31	15-1-3	.8684	3	.6274	5
5	Cornell	        30	8-4-1	.6538	9	.5914*	6
6	Minnesota	29	15-5-2	.7273	7	.5793*	7
7	Ohio State	28	12-4-4	.7000	8	.5720	8
8	Providence	27	11-5-4	.6500	10	.5567	9
9	St. Lawrence	26	9-6-3	.5833	14	.5554	10
10	Robert Morris	25	11-3-3	.7353	6	.5475	11

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

Same as last week, no polls, but here's the PWRs.

The men didn't move, but got a better distance from Denver and Ohio State

Men’s Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	        PWR	 W-L-T  Win % Win % Rank RPI	RPI Rank

1	St. Cloud State	59	12-2-3	.7941	4	.6203*	1
2	Notre Dame	58	16-3-1	.8250	2	.6165*	2
3	Clarkson	57	15-3-1	.8158	3	.6103*	3
4	Cornell	        56	11-2-0	.8462	1	.5983*	4
5	Denver	        55	11-5-4	.6500	8	.5746*	5
6	Ohio State	54	12-4-4	.7000	5t	.5678	6
7	North Dakota	53	10-5-5	.6250	9t	.5632*	7
8	Minnesota State	52	14-6-0	.7000	5t	.5632	8
9	Minnesota	51	12-9-1	.5682	17	.5545	9
10	Western Michigan50	11-8-1	.5750	15t	.5529	10
11	Providence	49	12-7-1	.6250	9t	.5480	11
12	Penn State	48	11-7-2	.6000	12	.5432	12
13	Northeastern	47	11-5-2	.6667	7	.5392	13
14	Omaha	        46	9-8-1	.5278	24	.5389	14
15	Boston College	45	10-7-2	.5789	14	.5349	15
16	Minnesota Duluth44	9-9-3	.5000	29t	.5328	16
17	Miami	        43	8-8-2	.5000	29t	.5263	17
18	Wisconsin	42	10-9-2	.5238	28	.5252	18
19	Canisius	41	10-6-1	.6176	11	.5190	19
20	Colorado College40	9-8-3	.5250	26t	.5178*	20
21	North Michigan	39	11-9-2	.5455	22	.5178	21
22	Colgate	        38	8-6-4	.5556	19	.5174	22

Women’s National Collegiate PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	        PWR	 W-L-T Win %  Win % Rank RPI	RPI Rank
1	Wisconsin	34	21-1-0	.9545	1	.6994*	1
2	Clarkson	33	17-3-1	.8333	4	.6304*	2
3	Colgate	        32	15-3-1	.8158	5	.6302*	3
4	Boston College	31	15-1-3	.8684	3	.6262	4
5	Cornell	        30	8-4-1	.6538	9	.5932*	6
6	Minnesota	29	15-5-2	.7273	7	.5794*	7
7	Ohio State	28	12-4-4	.7000	8	.5726	8
8	St. Lawrence	27	9-6-3	.5833	14	.5578	9
9	Providence	26	11-5-4	.6500	10	.5576	10
10	Robert Morris	25	11-3-3	.7353	6	.5499	11
11	Maine	        24	12-6-3	.6429	11	.5431	12
12	Northeastern	23	10-9-2	.5238	18	.5377	13
13	Quinnipiac	22	11-8-2	.5714	16	.5350	14
14	Harvard	        21	7-4-1	.6250	12	.5270	15

The January 2nd polls were released. Up to #4 in USA Today; Stayed #5 in USCHO.

jeff '84
The January 2nd polls were released. Up to #4 in USA Today; Stayed #5 in USCHO.

We got a first place vote in USCHO. (?!)

Trotsky

jeff '84
The January 2nd polls were released. Up to #4 in USA Today; Stayed #5 in USCHO.

We got a first place vote in USCHO. (?!)

No complaints about how we're playing, but there's no way to justify giving us a 1st place vote over a red-hot Clarkson team that beat us soundly in our own building.

USCHO Division I Men's Poll - January 2, 2018
Rnk	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	St. Cloud State	(33)	12-2-3	970	1
2	Notre Dame	(14)	16-3-1	936	3
3	Clarkson	(1)	15-3-1	898	4
4	Denver	        (1)	11-5-4	826	2
5	Cornell	        (1)	11-2-0	823	5
6	North Dakota		10-5-5	766	6
7	Minnesota State		14-6-0	687	7
8	Ohio State		12-4-4	647	9
9	Northeastern		11-5-2	595	8
10	Minnesota		12-9-1	527	10
11	Providence		12-7-1	508	11
12	Western Michigan	11-8-1	456	12
13	Boston College		10-7-2	376	14
14	Penn State		11-7-2	325	15
15	Wisconsin		10-9-2	319	13
16	Minnesota Duluth	9-9-3	222	17
17	Colgate		        8-6-4	164	18
18	Omaha		        9-8-1	118	
19	Bowling Green		9-6-6	88	
20	New Hampshire		9-9-1	54	16
Other Receiving Votes: Canisius 39, Miami 38, Maine 21, 
Northern Michigan 20, Colorado College 19, Union 17, 
UMass Lowell 16, Boston University 6, Michigan Tech 6, 
Massachusetts 6, Michigan 4, Bentley 3



USA TODAY/USA Hockey Magazine
				
RANK	SCHOOL	       POINTS	RECORD	PREVIOUS
1	Notre Dame (16)	488	16-3-1	3
2	St. Cloud  (17)	482	12-2-3	1
3	Clarkson	450	15-3-1	4
4	Cornell (1)	394	11-2-0	5
5	Denver	        382	11-5-4	2
6	North Dakota	336	10-5-5	6
7	Minnesota State	288	14-6-0	7
8	Ohio State	262	12-4-4	9
9	Northeastern	236	11-5-2	8
10	Minnesota	204	12-9-1	10
11	Providence	178	12-7-1	11
12	Western Michigan140	11-8-1	12
13	Penn State	81	11-7-2	13
14	Boston College	70	10-7-2	14
15	Wisconsin	53	10-9-2	15

Others Receiving Votes: University of Minnesota Duluth, 18; 
Colgate University, 10; University of Nebraska Omaha, 6; Canisius College, 2.

No new women's polls.

scoop85

Trotsky

jeff '84
The January 2nd polls were released. Up to #4 in USA Today; Stayed #5 in USCHO.

We got a first place vote in USCHO. (?!)

No complaints about how we're playing, but there's no way to justify giving us a 1st place vote over a red-hot Clarkson team that beat us soundly in our own building.

I guess one voter in each poll believes in win percentage über alles.

scoop85

Trotsky

jeff '84
The January 2nd polls were released. Up to #4 in USA Today; Stayed #5 in USCHO.

We got a first place vote in USCHO. (?!)

No complaints about how we're playing, but there's no way to justify giving us a 1st place vote over a red-hot Clarkson team that beat us soundly in our own building.

Casey probably felt bad voting for himself

This is the latest in the season we have had at least one #1 vote since 2009 (5 in each poll on 1/19).

pfibiger

scoop85

Trotsky

jeff '84
The January 2nd polls were released. Up to #4 in USA Today; Stayed #5 in USCHO.

We got a first place vote in USCHO. (?!)

No complaints about how we're playing, but there's no way to justify giving us a 1st place vote over a red-hot Clarkson team that beat us soundly in our own building.

Casey probably felt bad voting for himself

I wonder if Schafer voted for Casey?

Jeff Hopkins '82

pfibiger

scoop85

Trotsky

jeff '84
The January 2nd polls were released. Up to #4 in USA Today; Stayed #5 in USCHO.

We got a first place vote in USCHO. (?!)

No complaints about how we're playing, but there's no way to justify giving us a 1st place vote over a red-hot Clarkson team that beat us soundly in our own building.

Casey probably felt bad voting for himself

I wonder if Schafer voted for Casey?

IIRC you can't vote for yourself.

#4 in USCHO with that #1 vote doggedly hanging on. We're closer to #2 than #5:

Trotsky
#4 in USCHO with that #1 vote doggedly hanging on. We're closer to #2 than #5:

With that logic we are also closer to unanimous #1 than current #5...

USCHO Division I Men's Poll - January 8, 2018
Rnk	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	Notre Dame	(40)	18-3-1	988	2
2	St. Cloud State	(6)	13-3-3	932	1
3	Clarkson	(3)	16-3-1	916	3
4	Cornell	        (1)	13-2-0	855	5
5	Denver		        12-6-4	773	4
6	Ohio State		14-4-4	707	8
7	North Dakota		11-6-5	690	6
8	Minnesota State		16-6-0	689	7
9	Minnesota		13-10-1	572	10
10	Northeastern		12-5-3	543	9
11	Providence		14-7-1	539	11
12	Western Michigan	11-8-1	440	12
13	Penn State		12-7-3	429	14
14	Bowling Green		12-6-6	244	19
15	Minnesota Duluth	 9-9-3	228	16
16	Boston College		10-8-3	205	13
17	Omaha		        10-9-1	187	18
18	Wisconsin		10-10-3	173	15
19	Colgate		         9-7-4	99	17
20	Maine		        11-7-1	78	NR
20	Miami		         9-9-2	78	NR

Other Receiving Votes: UMass Lowell 66, Harvard 16, Michigan Tech 12, 
New Hampshire 11, Union 8, Bemidji State 6, Canisius 6, 
Colorado College 6, Niagara 3, Northern Michigan 1

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
January 8, 2018
	Team	               Points (First) Last Poll	Record
	
1	University Notre Dame   500	(26)	1	18-3-1
2	St. Cloud State Univer	462	(2)	2	13-3-3
3	Clarkson University	450	(2)	3	16-3-1
4	Cornell University	416	(2)	4	13-2-0
5	University of Denver	360	(2)	5	12-6-4
6	Minnesota State Univer	319		7	16-6-0
7	Ohio State University	307		8	14-4-4
8	University North Dakota	290		6	11-6-5
9	Northeastern University	205		9	12-5-3
10	Providence College	204		11	14-7-1
11	University of Minnesota	198		10	13-10-1
12	Western Michigan Univer	141		12	11-8-1
13	Penn State University	119		13	12-7-3
14	Bowling Green State 	34		NR	12-6-6
15	University  Minn Duluth	19		NR	9-9-3
	
Others receiving votes: Boston College 18, University of Wisconsin 12, 
University of Nebraska Omaha 10, University of Maine 8, 
UMass Lowell 6, Colgate University 1, Harvard University 1.

Men’s Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	        PWR	W-L-T   Win % Win % Rank RPI	RPI Rank

1	St. Cloud State	59	13-3-3	.7632	4	.6147*	1
2	Notre Dame	58	18-3-1	.8409	2	.6139*	2
3	Clarkson	57	16-3-1	.8250	3	.6125*	3
4	Cornell	        56	13-2-0	.8667	1	.6073*	4
5	Ohio State	55	14-4-4	.7273	5t	.5718	5
6	Denver	        54	12-6-4	.6364	9	.5713	6
7	Minnesota State	53	16-6-0	.7273	5t	.5650*	7
8	North Dakota	52	11-6-5	.6136	11t	.5583*	8
9	Minnesota	51	13-10-1	.5625	17	.5561	9
10	Western Michigan50	11-8-1	.5750	15	.5547	10
11	Providence	49	14-7-1	.6591	8	.5540	11
12	Penn State	48	12-7-3	.6136	11t	.5455	12
13t	Northeastern	46	12-5-3	.6750	7	.5415	13
13t	Omaha	        46	10-9-1	.5250	23t	.5406	14
15	Minnesota Duluth45	9-9-3	.5000	27t	.5332	15
16	Miami	        44	9-9-2	.5000	27t	.5318	16
17	Bowling Green	43	12-6-6	.6250	10	.5305	17
18	Maine	        42	11-7-1	.6053	14	.5251	18
19	Wisconsin	41	10-10-3	.5000	27t	.5191	20
20	Boston College	40	10-8-3	.5476	20	.5238	19
21	Colorado College39	9-8-3	.5250	23t	.5179	21
22	UMass Lowell	38	12-9-0	.5714	16	.5171	22
23	Colgate	        37	9-7-4	.5500	18t	.5131	23
24	Harvard	        36	7-6-1	.5357	22	.5121	24

USCHO Division I Women's Poll - January 8, 2018
Rnk	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	Wisconsin	(15)	21-1-0	150	1
2	Boston College		18-1-3	134	2
3	Clarkson		17-3-1	118	3
4	Colgate		        17-3-1	108	4
5	Minnesota		15-5-2	88	6
6	Cornell		        8-6-1	61	5
7	Providence		13-5-5	60	8
8	Ohio State		13-5-4	45	7
9	Robert Morris		12-4-3	28	9
10	Maine		        14-6-3	22	NR

Other Receiving Votes: St. Lawrence 9, Northeastern 2

Women’s National Collegiate PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	        PWR	W-L-T  Win % Win % Rank	RPI	RPI Rank

1	Wisconsin	34	21-1-0	.9545	1	.6892*	1
2	Boston College	33	18-1-3	.8864	3	.6319	2
3	Colgate	        32	17-3-1	.8333	4t	.6297*	3
4	Clarkson	31	17-3-1	.8333	4t	.6230*	4
5	Minnesota	30	15-5-2	.7273	6	.5806*	6
6	Ohio State	29	13-5-4	.6818	8	.5614	7
7	Cornell	        28	8-6-1	.5667	15	.5600	8
8	Providence	27	13-5-5	.6739	9t	.5595	9
9	Maine	        26	14-6-3	.6739	9t	.5523	10
10	Robert Morris	25	12-4-3	.7105	7	.5446	11
11	St. Lawrence	24	10-7-3	.5750	14	.5440	12
12	Northeastern	23	10-9-2	.5238	17	.5402	13
13	Quinnipiac	22	12-10-2	.5417	16	.5289	14
14	New Hampshire	21	9-8-5	.5227	18	.5183	15
15	Harvard	        20	8-5-1	.6071	11	.5162	16

I'm sure Jim will come along and do the proper formatted thing, but we're #4 this week in both polls, this time sans any #1 votes.

Beeeej
I'm sure Jim will come along and do the proper formatted thing, but we're #4 this week in both polls, this time sans any #1 votes.

Indeed

USCHO Division I Men's Poll - January 15, 2018
Rnk	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	Notre Dame	(44)	18-3-1	993	1
2	Clarkson	(5)	18-3-1	943	3
3	St. Cloud State	(1)	14-4-3	900	2
4	Cornell		        14-2-1	855	4
5	Denver		        12-6-4	786	5
6	Ohio State		15-5-4	716	6
7	North Dakota		12-6-6	707	7
8	Northeastern		14-5-3	616	10
9	Minnesota State		17-7-0	585	8
10	Providence		15-7-2	569	11
11	Western Michigan	12-9-1	511	12
12	Penn State		13-8-3	446	13
13	Minnesota		13-12-1	356	9
14	Minnesota Duluth	11-9-3	353	15
15	Omaha		        12-9-1	309	17
16	Boston College		11-9-3	234	16
17	Bowling Green		12-8-6	160	14
18	Wisconsin		11-11-3	96	18
19	Colgate		        10-8-4	78	19
20	Michigan		10-10-2	71	NR

Other Receiving Votes: Northern Michigan 70, Harvard 56, 
UMass Lowell 30, Bemidji State 17, Maine 14, Boston University 9, 
Michigan Tech 7, Miami 7, Canisius 5, American International 1

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
January 15, 2018
	    Team	     Points  (First) Last Poll	Record

1	University of Notre Dame505	(29)	1	18-3-1
2	Clarkson University	476	(3)	3	18-3-1
3	St. Cloud State Univer	445	(2)	2	14-4-3
4	Cornell University	409		4	14-2-1
5	University of Denver	361		5	12-6-4
6	Ohio State University	327		7	15-5-4
7	University North Dakota	307		8	12-6-6
8	Minnesota State Univer	253		6	17-7-0
9	Northeastern University	238		9	14-5-3
10	Providence College	225		10	15-7-2
11	Western Michigan Univer	182		12	12-9-1
12	Penn State University	132		13	13-8-3
13	Univer Minnesota Duluth	76		15	11-9-3
14	University of Minnesota	68		11	13-12-1
15	Univer Nebraska Omaha	47		NR	12-9-1
	
Others receiving votes: Boston College 17, Harvard University 5, 
University of Michigan 3, Bowling Green State University 2, UMass Lowell 2.

Men’s Division I PairWise Rankings
Rank	Team	        PWR	W-L-T  Win % Win % Rank	RPI	RPI Rank

1	Notre Dame	59	18-3-1	.8409	2t	.6151*	1
2	Clarkson	58	18-3-1	.8409	2t	.6126*	2
3	St. Cloud State	57	14-4-3	.7381	4	.6059	3
4	Cornell	        56	14-2-1	.8529	1	.5903*	4
5	Ohio State	55	15-5-4	.7083	5t	.5720	5
6	Denver	        54	12-6-4	.6364	9	.5706	6
7	Western Michigan53	12-9-1	.5682	14t	.5603	7
8	Minnesota State	52	17-7-0	.7083	5t	.5579*	8
9	Providence	51	15-7-2	.6667	8	.5563	9
10	North Dakota	50	12-6-6	.6250	10	.5547*	10
11	Omaha	        49	12-9-1	.5682	14t	.5530	11
12	Penn State	48	13-8-3	.6042	11	.5491	12
13	Northeastern	47	14-5-3	.7045	7	.5453	13
14	Minnesota Duluth46	11-9-3	.5435	22t	.5409	14
15t	Minnesota	44	13-12-1	.5192	28	.5383	15
15t	Michigan	44	10-10-2	.5000	29t	.5288	16
17	Bowling Green	43	12-8-6	.5769	13	.5214	17
18	Miami	        42	9-11-2	.4545	37t	.5199	19
19	Boston College	41	11-9-3	.5435	22t	.5209	18
20	Wisconsin	40	11-11-3	.5000	29t	.5182	21
21	Northern Mich	39	13-10-3	.5577	18	.5183	20
22	Harvard	        38	8-6-3	.5588	17	.5130	22
23	UMass Lowell	37	13-10-0	.5652	16	.5122	23
24	Colgate	        36	10-8-4	.5455	19t	.5103	24

USCHO Division I Women's Poll - January 15, 2018
Rnk	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	Wisconsin	(15)	23-1-0	150	1
2	Boston College		19-2-3	122	2
2	Clarkson		19-3-1	122	3
4	Colgate		        19-3-1	116	4
5	Minnesota		17-6-2	76	5
6	Cornell		        11-6-1	75	6
7	Ohio State		15-5-4	58	8
8	Providence		14-6-5	41	7
9	Maine		        15-6-3	28	10
10	St. Lawrence		12-7-3	17	NR

Other Receiving Votes: Robert Morris 13, Northeastern 6, Mercyhurst 1

Women’s National Collegiate PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	        PWR	W-L-T  Win % Win % Rank	RPI	RPI Rank

1	Wisconsin	34	23-1-0	.9583	1	.6906*	1
2	Colgate	        33	19-3-1	.8478	4t	.6304*	2
3	Clarkson	32	19-3-1	.8478	4t	.6271*	3
4	Boston College	31	19-2-3	.8542	2	.6265	4
5	Minnesota	30	17-6-2	.7200	6	.5744	5
6	Ohio State	29	15-5-4	.7083	7	.5714	7
7	Cornell	        28	11-6-1	.6389	11	.5691*	8
8	Maine	        27	15-6-3	.6875	8	.5572	9
9	Providence	26	14-6-5	.6600	9	.5540	10
10	St. Lawrence	25	12-7-3	.6136	13	.5506	11
11	Northeastern	24	12-10-2	.5417	15	.5503	12
12	Robert Morris	23	12-6-3	.6429	10	.5314	13
13	Quinnipiac	22	13-11-2	.5385	16	.5209	14

Here's the PWR and I'll add the polls after they come out tomorrow. Posters have talked on another thread that there doesn't seem to be an easy way to find old PWRs, except maybe at the end of the season. That's one of the reasons I decided to do this every week.

Men’s Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	        PWR	W-L-T  Win % Win % Rank	RPI	RPI Rank

1t	Notre Dame	58	19-4-1	.8125	2	.6055*	1
1t	Cornell	        58	16-2-1	.8684	1	.5979*	2
3	St. Cloud State	57	14-5-3	.7045	6	.5934	3
4t	Clarkson	56	18-4-2	.7917	3	.5867*	4
4t	Denver	        56	14-6-4	.6667	8	.5798*	5
6	Ohio State	54	15-5-4	.7083	5	.5708	6
7	Minnesota State	53	18-7-0	.7200	4	.5678*	7
8	Minnesota Duluth52	13-9-3	.5800	13	.5491	8
9	Western Michigan51	13-10-1	.5625	17	.5487	9
10t	Minnesota	49	15-12-1	.5536	21	.5462	10
10t	Providence	49	16-8-2	.6538	9	.5449	11
12	North Dakota	48	12-8-6	.5769	15	.5442*	12
13	Northeastern	47	15-6-3	.6875	7	.5404	13
14	Omaha	        46	12-11-1	.5208	27	.5401	14
15	Michigan	45	12-10-2	.5417	23t	.5390	15
16	Penn State	44	13-10-3	.5577	20	.5361	16
17	Harvard	        43	9-6-4	.5789	14	.5249	17
18	Northe Michigan	42	15-10-3	.5893	12	.5239	18
19	Bowling Green	41	14-8-6	.6071	11	.5236	19
20	Wisconsin	40	12-12-3	.5000	29t	.5211	21
21t	Boston College	39	11-9-3	.5435	22	.5228	20
21t	Miami	        39	9-11-2	.4545	40	.5194	22
23	Bemidji State	37	13-7-6	.6154	10	.5184	23
24	Maine	        36	12-9-4	.5600	18t	.5106	24
25	Boston Univer	35	11-11-2	.5000	29t	.5104	25
26	Colorado College34	10-11-3	.4792	35	.5099	26
27	UMass Lowell	33	14-11-0	.5600	18t	.5082	27
28t	Union	        31	14-12-1	.5370	26	.5081	28
28t	Colgate	        31	10-10-4	.5000	29t	.5017	29
30	Michigan Tech	30	13-9-5	.5741	16	.5005	30
31	Canisius	29	12-10-2	.5417	23t	.4995	31


Women’s National Collegiate PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	        PWR	W-L-T  Win % Win % Rank	RPI	RPI Rank

1	Wisconsin	34	24-1-1	.9423	1	.6762*	1
2	Clarkson	33	21-3-1	.8600	4	.6313*	2
3	Colgate	        32	22-3-1	.8654	3	.6301*	3
4	Boston College	31	22-2-3	.8704	2	.6292*	4
5	Ohio State	30	17-5-4	.7308	6	.5842*	5
6	Cornell	        29	12-6-2	.6500	11	.5624*	7
7	Minnesota	28	17-8-2	.6667	9t	.5617	8
8	St. Lawrence	27	14-7-3	.6458	12	.5561	9
9	Maine	        26	16-7-3	.6731	8	.5537	10
10	Northeastern	25	13-10-3	.5577	15	.5513	11
11	Providence	24	14-7-6	.6296	14	.5453	12
12	Robert Morris	23	14-6-3	.6739	7	.5361	13
13	Quinnipiac	22	13-11-2	.5385	16	.5190	14

Jim Hyla
Here's the PWR and I'll add the polls after they come out tomorrow. Posters have talked on another thread that there doesn't seem to be an easy way to find old PWRs, except maybe at the end of the season.

Here are the final PWR standings since 2001.

Polls should be interesting given that Clarkson, St. Cloud, and Notre Dame all lost this weekend.

I predict Cornell will be up to 3rd this week, coming very close to 2nd. Even as we're in the midst of one of our best seasons in recent memory, I think the team is still flying under the radar because our offense is so balanced that none of our guys show up near the top of national scoring statistics. Our defensive solidity is almost taken for granted. In contrast to some of Schafer's best teams, this year's success comes without our PP or PK being outstanding, yet we lead the nation in Scoring Margin--this suggests our even strength play has been great.

imafrshmn
I predict Cornell will be up to 3rd this week, coming very close to 2nd. Even as we're in the midst of one of our best seasons in recent memory, I think the team is still flying under the radar because our offense is so balanced that none of our guys show up near the top of national scoring statistics. Our defensive solidity is almost taken for granted. In contrast to some of Schafer's best teams, this year's success comes without our PP or PK being outstanding, yet we lead the nation in Scoring Margin--this suggests our even strength play has been great.

This seems about right to me, too. We might even stay in 4th though I think our trace first place votes will be back.

The bold is very important, I think -- we have the balance that Schafer's best teams did. We're going to need that when we play the best up tempo opponents to avoid the "sparring partner" trauma of those NC$$ losses like getting outshot by 20 at Wisco and at Minny. This squad has the ability to push the opponent back deep into their zone. That takes a lot of pressure off the D and goalie.

the PP at times has little to show for some really good puck movement.. Sometimes that just starts to feed on itself. just a slight uptick in goals from the PP this time of year would be huge. Depth is something that really shows on the PK, the ability to roll out multiple lines of solid PK is big

I'll leave it to someone like Jim, who understands the ins & outs of copying & pasting poll results, to post the complete poll here.

But the men are #2 in this morning's USCHO poll, w/ 15 first-place votes(!)

Women are still at #6.

As usual, the USA Today poll is running later than the USCHO poll.

Closer to 1 than 3. Holy shit.

The solo voter has friends and no more flying under the radar.

osorojo
The solo voter has friends and no more flying under the radar.

Yup, careful what you wish for.

During the Schafer Era we have only been 2nd or better this late twice: 03 and 05.

Worse yet, the pressure leaps to beat the team from the school where dying mothers refuse to send their sons.

Still at #4 in USA Today for 1/22... Go figure.

unless we beat Harvard and Clarkson i doubt we get any higher and if we did run that table we probably would deserve it on record alone, as to whether we would be the best I doubt it until we actually played someone OC.

upprdeck
unless we beat Harvard and Clarkson i doubt we get any higher and if we did run that table we probably would deserve it on record alone, as to whether we would be the best I doubt it until we actually played someone OC.

Way too early to make any statement like this. As Annie Savoy said, "it's a long season and you gotta trust it." Five more RS weeks plus the conference tournies means we could be seeded anywhere from #1 to golf.

FWIW, PlayoffStatus.com current odds for Cornell:

.99 ECAC QF
.94 ECAC SF
.69 ECAC F
.41 ECAC Champion

.99 NC$$ Bid
.70 NC$$ QF
.43 NC$$ SF
.24 NC$$ F
.13 NC$$ Champion

Que sera, sera.

Trotsky

upprdeck
unless we beat Harvard and Clarkson i doubt we get any higher and if we did run that table we probably would deserve it on record alone, as to whether we would be the best I doubt it until we actually played someone OC.

Way too early to make any statement like this. As Annie Savoy said, "it's a long season and you gotta trust it." Five more RS weeks plus the conference tournies means we could be seeded anywhere from #1 to golf.

FWIW, PlayoffStatus.com current odds for Cornell:

.99 ECAC QF
.94 ECAC SF
.69 ECAC F
.41 ECAC Champion

.99 NC$$ Bid
.70 NC$$ QF
.43 NC$$ SF
.24 NC$$ F
.13 NC$$ Champion

Que sera, sera.

16 teams in the NC tourney. If each team had equal probability, P[NC] = 0.0625. So P[NC] = 0.13 is not that bad.

And, as Upprdeck points out, beating Harvard and/or Clarkson is necessary to hold our position. If we do, P[NC] might even increase.

We're not yet in a position to say we will beat any other team most nights, but we are in position to say realistically we could beat any other team on a given night. Given where we started out this season, I'm overjoyed that this is where we are.

Here's all, except for USA Women's, which doesn't come out till tomorrow, and I refuse to be bothered by that. Or, maybe I should say, I am bothered by that.

Anyone looking for PWR, look up a number of posts.

I'm not bothered much by the differences between the polls, except that we get 15 votes for first in USCHO, about 30%, and NONE in USA. What's up with that.

USCHO Division I Men's Poll - January 22, 2018
Rnk	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	Notre Dame	(33)	19-4-1	981	1
2	Cornell	        (15)	16-2-1	942	4
3	Clarkson	(1)	18-4-2	873	2
4	Denver	        (1)	14-6-4	847	5
5	St. Cloud State		14-5-3	804	3
6	Ohio State		15-5-4	748	6
7	Minnesota State		18-7-0	696	9
8	Northeastern		15-6-3	595	8
9	Minnesota Duluth	13-9-3	573	14
10	Providence		16-8-2	543	10
11	North Dakota		12-8-6	516	7
12	Western Michigan	13-10-1	460	11
13	Minnesota		15-12-1	439	13
14	Penn State		13-10-3	233	12
15	Bowling Green		14-8-6	227	17
16	Boston College		11-9-3	222	16
17	Michigan		12-10-2	204	20
18	Wisconsin		12-12-3	164	18
19	Omaha		        12-11-1	142	15
20	Northern Michigan	15-10-3	101	NR

Other Receiving Votes: Harvard 98, Bemidji State 33, UMass Lowell 17, 
Maine 16, Boston University 9, Michigan Tech 9, Union 5, Colgate 3  

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
January 22, 2018
	Team	               Points (First) Last Poll	Record
	
1	University of Notre Dame503	(27)	1	19-4-1
2	Clarkson University	469	(7)	2	18-4-2
3	St. Cloud State Univer	430		3	14-5-3
4	Cornell University	419		4	16-2-1
5	University of Denver	374		5	14-6-4
6	Ohio State University	331		6	15-5-4
7	University North Dakota	292		7	12-8-6
8	Minnesota State Univer	231		8	18-7-0
9	Northeastern University	213		9	15-6-3
10	Providence College	199		10	16-8-2
11	Western Michigan Univer	160		11	13-10-1
12	Penn State University	150		12	13-10-3
13	Univer Minnesota Duluth	147		13	13-9-3
14	University of Minnesota	39		14	15-12-1
15	Univer Nebraska Omaha	35		15	12-11-1
	
Others receiving votes: Boston College 28, Harvard University 22, 
Bowling Green State University 21, UMass Lowell 13, 
University of Michigan 3, University of Wisconsin 1.

USCHO Division I Women's Poll - January 22, 2018
Rnk	Team	(First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	Wisconsin(15)	24-1-1	150	1
2	Colgate		22-3-1	121	4
3	Boston College	22-2-3	119	2
3	Clarkson	21-3-1	119	2
5	Ohio State	17-5-4	90	7
6	Cornell		12-6-2	71	6
7	Minnesota	17-8-2	63	5
8	St. Lawrence	14-7-3	32	10
9	Maine		16-7-3	22	9
10	Providence	14-7-6	21	8

Other Receiving Votes: Robert Morris 9, Northeastern 5, 
Bemidji State 2, Mercyhurst 1

Trotsky
Five more RS weeks plus the conference tournies means we could be seeded anywhere from #1 to golf.

An 81% chance at being a 1-seed? I'll take that!

Jim Hyla

I'm not bothered much by the differences between the polls, except that we get 15 votes for first in USCHO, about 30%, and NONE in USA. What's up with that.

The USA Today results seem weird to me, as though they took the votes Friday night and the Saturday and Sunday results aren’t factored in.

I see the table, I see Cornell is #2 in one poll. But, Lord, are we really the second-best time in the nation? Am I refusing to believe? Or do older alumni simply have more experience having their dreams crushed? Even the 2009 lacrosse title game makes me, ah, uncertain that we're a frozen four team let alone a potential national champion. Still, it's worth scoping out hotels for Lake Placid now.

And worth noting 3 of the 4 NCAA regional sites are driving distance.

East Regional, Webster Bank Arena – Bridgeport, Connecticut (Host: Fairfield and Yale)
Northeast Regional, DCU Center – Worcester, Massachusetts (Host: Holy Cross)
Midwest Regional, PPL Center – Allentown, Pennsylvania (Host: Penn State)
West Regional, Premier Center – Sioux Falls, South Dakota (Host: North Dakota)

St. Paul is a fabulous hockey town but it involves an airplane.

16 hrs from cornell.. one good days drive.. vs $250-$300 to fly from around here