Future Coaching?
Posted by LynahFaithful
Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: April 05, 2016 06:15AM
css228
I disagree with that premise, although it may stem from a different interpretation. What he's implying to me is the type of high pressure system attack points at blue line system that he's been advocated, as opposed to a more Torts/Schafer/90s-2000s Devils clog the neutral zone, block shots, collapse around the goalie. Basically he's talking about the hockey equivalent of running the old Arkansas 40 minutes of hell full court press defense.BearLover
Every team, Cornell especially, is already trying to do this.Trotsky
So, I know exactly how I want Cornell to play hockey, having now watched the Royals take the Mets apart last night, again, just like they did in the WS.
That constant pressure and intensity and keeping your head in every second of the game and scrapping for every tiny advantage and not letting up for an instant; good god, it just shatters lesser teams mentally. It's exhausting just watching it, let alone having to deal with it on the ice.
The only hockey team I've ever seen do that was the 85 RPI national champions. Take that, season with some decent talent (which we have) and backstop it with a goalie who can save you for the handful of D breakdowns that you will give up (which we have... at least I think), and it will produce wins. And a helluva lot of fun. And maybe a heart attack on the bench.
That is what I meant; in fact I had the Arkansas squad in mind and ought to have mentioned them.
Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 05, 2016 07:18AM
Guys, this is a hockey thread. I hope? There is another forum for "Other Sports".
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: marty (---.sub-70-209-134.myvzw.com)
Date: April 05, 2016 09:38AM
Jim Hyla
Guys, this is a hockey thread. I hope? There is another forum for "Other Sports".
If you call that a sport.
Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: ugarte (---.177.169.163.ipyx-102276-zyo.zip.zayo.com)
Date: April 05, 2016 09:57AM
It's the best serious article about baseball I've ever read. The best non-serious article is this one.KeithK
Thanks for that link. Great read.ugarte
Anyway, I think about this article (in part about how eventually statistics redeemed old scouting opinions regarding catcher defense that the statheads had dismissed as nonsense but mostly about humility) all the time when I think about the Royals' emphasis on contact, speed and defense (and a shut-down bullpen).
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Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: ugarte (---.177.169.163.ipyx-102276-zyo.zip.zayo.com)
Date: April 05, 2016 09:58AM
The main point of this thread is dead, Jim. Circular, tedious, the sides have fully presented their cases to the sad end of convincing nobody.Jim Hyla
Guys, this is a hockey thread. I hope? There is another forum for "Other Sports".
The drift is the only thing worth coming back for.
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Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: April 05, 2016 11:56AM
ugarte
The main point of this thread is dead, Jim.
Not until he re-signs it's not.
Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: April 05, 2016 12:24PM
What if Topher jumping ship means he knew something that we don't?Trotsky
ugarte
The main point of this thread is dead, Jim.
Not until he re-signs it's not.
(Just stirring the pot as I wait for the Yankees home opener.)
Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: marty (---.sub-70-209-134.myvzw.com)
Date: April 05, 2016 12:42PM
KeithK
What if Topher jumping ship means he knew something that we don't?Trotsky
ugarte
The main point of this thread is dead, Jim.
Not until he re-signs it's not.
(Just stirring the pot as I wait for the Yankees home opener.)
What makes you think Topher wasn't forced to walk the plank?
Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 05, 2016 12:53PM
ugarte
The main point of this thread is dead, Jim. Circular, tedious, the sides have fully presented their cases to the sad end of convincing nobody.Jim Hyla
Guys, this is a hockey thread. I hope? There is another forum for "Other Sports".
The drift is the only thing worth coming back for.
Then put the drift in another forum and don't post here till there is more hockey news.
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: ugarte (---.177.169.163.ipyx-102276-zyo.zip.zayo.com)
Date: April 05, 2016 03:06PM
Read the article and calm down.Jim Hyla
ugarte
The main point of this thread is dead, Jim. Circular, tedious, the sides have fully presented their cases to the sad end of convincing nobody.Jim Hyla
Guys, this is a hockey thread. I hope? There is another forum for "Other Sports".
The drift is the only thing worth coming back for.
Then put the drift in another forum and don't post here till there is more hockey news.
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Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 05, 2016 04:34PM
ugarte
Read the article and calm down.Jim Hyla
ugarte
The main point of this thread is dead, Jim. Circular, tedious, the sides have fully presented their cases to the sad end of convincing nobody.Jim Hyla
Guys, this is a hockey thread. I hope? There is another forum for "Other Sports".
The drift is the only thing worth coming back for.
Then put the drift in another forum and don't post here till there is more hockey news.
Why do you think I'm not calm? Was it something I said?
I was responding to the general drift of the thread and wasn't particularly interested in everybody's thoughts on their favorite, and not so favorite, teams. I wasn't responding to any article.
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: ugarte (---.177.169.163.ipyx-102276-zyo.zip.zayo.com)
Date: April 05, 2016 04:48PM
this is what the thread is nowJim Hyla
ugarte
Read the article and calm down.Jim Hyla
ugarte
The main point of this thread is dead, Jim. Circular, tedious, the sides have fully presented their cases to the sad end of convincing nobody.Jim Hyla
Guys, this is a hockey thread. I hope? There is another forum for "Other Sports".
The drift is the only thing worth coming back for.
Then put the drift in another forum and don't post here till there is more hockey news.
Why do you think I'm not calm? Was it something I said?
I was responding to the general drift of the thread and wasn't particularly interested in everybody's thoughts on their favorite, and not so favorite, teams. I wasn't responding to any article.
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Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 06, 2016 08:14AM
ugarte
this is what the thread is nowJim Hyla
ugarte
Read the article and calm down.Jim Hyla
ugarte
The main point of this thread is dead, Jim. Circular, tedious, the sides have fully presented their cases to the sad end of convincing nobody.Jim Hyla
Guys, this is a hockey thread. I hope? There is another forum for "Other Sports".
The drift is the only thing worth coming back for.
Then put the drift in another forum and don't post here till there is more hockey news.
Why do you think I'm not calm? Was it something I said?
I was responding to the general drift of the thread and wasn't particularly interested in everybody's thoughts on their favorite, and not so favorite, teams. I wasn't responding to any article.
So therefore it belongs in "Other Sports".
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: ugarte (---.177.169.163.ipyx-102276-zyo.zip.zayo.com)
Date: April 06, 2016 03:18PM
But it isn't there.Jim Hyla
ugarte
this is what the thread is nowJim Hyla
ugarte
Read the article and calm down.Jim Hyla
ugarte
The main point of this thread is dead, Jim. Circular, tedious, the sides have fully presented their cases to the sad end of convincing nobody.Jim Hyla
Guys, this is a hockey thread. I hope? There is another forum for "Other Sports".
The drift is the only thing worth coming back for.
Then put the drift in another forum and don't post here till there is more hockey news.
Why do you think I'm not calm? Was it something I said?
I was responding to the general drift of the thread and wasn't particularly interested in everybody's thoughts on their favorite, and not so favorite, teams. I wasn't responding to any article.
So therefore it belongs in "Other Sports".
___________________________
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Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: Dafatone (---.midco.net)
Date: April 06, 2016 04:01PM
To get back to kinda-relevance, one thing I liked in that (fantastic) article on sabermetrics and catcher defense is the idea that advanced metrics change depending on the conditions of the league at the time. Back when everyone was blasting homers, a catcher that got on base more was a big deal because baserunners pretty much all scored. Now that nobody's scoring, catcher defense may matter more.
Similarly, we've talked a little about applying some hockey metrics to college hockey. It's important to note (as some folks have done) that hockey metrics are developed based on NHL data, and that what's valuable in the NHL may not correlate to value in college hockey. Granted, there'll be some correlation. More shots is better than fewer shots. More puck possession is better than less puck possession.
But maybe our metrics aren't where they need to be just yet to really dig into what's going on in the college level.
Similarly, we've talked a little about applying some hockey metrics to college hockey. It's important to note (as some folks have done) that hockey metrics are developed based on NHL data, and that what's valuable in the NHL may not correlate to value in college hockey. Granted, there'll be some correlation. More shots is better than fewer shots. More puck possession is better than less puck possession.
But maybe our metrics aren't where they need to be just yet to really dig into what's going on in the college level.
Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: April 06, 2016 05:21PM
That's why I asked for it to be put there.ugarte
But it isn't there.Jim Hyla
ugarte
this is what the thread is nowJim Hyla
ugarte
Read the article and calm down.Jim Hyla
ugarte
The main point of this thread is dead, Jim. Circular, tedious, the sides have fully presented their cases to the sad end of convincing nobody.Jim Hyla
Guys, this is a hockey thread. I hope? There is another forum for "Other Sports".
The drift is the only thing worth coming back for.
Then put the drift in another forum and don't post here till there is more hockey news.
Why do you think I'm not calm? Was it something I said?
I was responding to the general drift of the thread and wasn't particularly interested in everybody's thoughts on their favorite, and not so favorite, teams. I wasn't responding to any article.
So therefore it belongs in "Other Sports".
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: ugarte (---.177.169.163.ipyx-102276-zyo.zip.zayo.com)
Date: April 07, 2016 03:34PM
How's that going?Jim Hyla
That's why I asked for it to be put there.ugarte
But it isn't there.Jim Hyla
ugarte
this is what the thread is nowJim Hyla
ugarte
Read the article and calm down.Jim Hyla
ugarte
The main point of this thread is dead, Jim. Circular, tedious, the sides have fully presented their cases to the sad end of convincing nobody.Jim Hyla
Guys, this is a hockey thread. I hope? There is another forum for "Other Sports".
The drift is the only thing worth coming back for.
Then put the drift in another forum and don't post here till there is more hockey news.
Why do you think I'm not calm? Was it something I said?
I was responding to the general drift of the thread and wasn't particularly interested in everybody's thoughts on their favorite, and not so favorite, teams. I wasn't responding to any article.
So therefore it belongs in "Other Sports".
___________________________
quality tweets | bluesky (twitter 2) | ALAB Series podcast | Other podcasts and writing
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Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: April 17, 2016 08:01PM
So, are we currently technically entre coach, or does Mike's contract run out sometime this summer?
Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: maybCU (---.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net)
Date: April 26, 2016 01:28PM
new asst. coach to be announced this week. if rumors are correct, should be a boost in recruiting.
Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: April 26, 2016 05:18PM
Rumors? What rumors?maybCU
new asst. coach to be announced this week. if rumors are correct, should be a boost in recruiting.
I hear they're going to hire Joe N. That'll help recruiting.
Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: BearLover (---.wrls.harvard.edu)
Date: April 26, 2016 06:09PM
KeithK
Rumors? What rumors?maybCU
new asst. coach to be announced this week. if rumors are correct, should be a boost in recruiting.
I hear they're going to hire Joe N. That'll help recruiting.
!?
Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: April 26, 2016 09:48PM
You heard it here first!
Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: April 27, 2016 09:45AM
The harassment lawsuits will double the budget.
Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: Kyle Rose (---.deploy.akamaitechnologies.com)
Date: April 27, 2016 10:02AM
Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: April 27, 2016 11:20AM
Wait! Are we talking football or hockey?
If Joe Willie still looks like that, maybe he could also help with recruiting for the women's teams.
If Joe Willie still looks like that, maybe he could also help with recruiting for the women's teams.
Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: redice (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: April 27, 2016 12:22PM
KeithK
I hear they're going to hire Joe N. That'll help recruiting.
If true, the one unquestionable fact is that we would instantly be better in the faceoff circle.... The one year that he was in town & worked with the team, we kicked ass in the faceoff circle. I expect that to repeat itself.
Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: April 27, 2016 12:27PM
Swampy
Wait! Are we talking football or hockey?
If Joe Willie still looks like that, maybe he could also help with recruiting for the women's teams.
If Joe Willie looks like that you need a new optometrist.
Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: April 27, 2016 12:47PM
marty
Swampy
Wait! Are we talking football or hockey?
If Joe Willie still looks like that, maybe he could also help with recruiting for the women's teams.
If Joe Willie looks like that you need a new optometrist.
Or maybe a photographer who continues to work in this millennium:
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/27/2016 12:48PM by Swampy.
Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: April 27, 2016 08:13PM
Joe Namath and Jimmy Carter are converging.
Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: May 02, 2016 06:35PM
maybCU
new asst. coach to be announced this week. if rumors are correct, should be a boost in recruiting.
Nothing last week, maybe this week, or are all the rumors incorrect?
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: RatushnyFan (74.118.218.---)
Date: May 05, 2016 09:44AM
I take it you didn't read Tom Verducci's 2003 article on Rickey Henderson?ugarte
The best non-serious article is this one.
Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: May 05, 2016 08:35PM
That doesn't look like a link.RatushnyFan
I take it you didn't read Tom Verducci's 2003 article on Rickey Henderson?ugarte
The best non-serious article is this one.
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Re: Future Coaching?
Posted by: ugarte (---.177.169.163.ipyx-102276-zyo.zip.zayo.com)
Date: May 16, 2016 03:08PM
thanks!
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