ECAC 2013-14

Trotsky
The Skating Deerticks actually look mortal at the moment. After starting the conference schedule 6-0-1 they have gone 0-2-2.

marty
Free video of Union @ Qpac now underway. No score at the four minute mark.

Trotsky

marty
Free video of Union @ Qpac now underway. No score at the four minute mark.

Why you no linky linky?

marty
Scrums after the final with Bennett going after Alpert. ?!?

And after the refs were able to herd the Union players and cautiously tried to run the handshake line, Bennett pulled his team off the ice. They were also no shows for the post game Mayor's Cup awards.

I have no idea who instigated the fighting at game end and I also have no opinion concerning whether there was dirty play during the game that led to the fighting. I'm sure Ed Weaver will fill us in.

It will be interesting to see what type of penalties are assessed to Bennett and also I'm guessing his mea culpas could rival Chirs Christie's.

-- 3rd --
Rensselaer	20:00	 Higgs, Brock: FACEMASKING	MAJOR	5 minutes
Rensselaer	20:00	 Higgs, Brock: GAME MISCONDUCT	GAMEMISC	10 minutes
Rensselaer	20:00	 Haggerty, Ryan: ROUGHING	MINOR	2 minutes
Rensselaer	20:00	 Haggerty, Ryan: 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT	10MINMISC	10 minutes
Rensselaer	20:00	 Dolan, Bo: ROUGHING	MINOR	2 minutes
Rensselaer	20:00	 Dolan, Bo: 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT	10MINMISC	10 minutes
Rensselaer	20:00	 Zalewski, Mike: FIGHTING	MAJOR	5 minutes
Rensselaer	20:00	 Zalewski, Mike: DISQUALIFICATION	MATCH	10 minutes
Rensselaer	20:00	 Curadi, Luke: FIGHTING	MAJOR	5 minutes
Rensselaer	20:00	 Curadi, Luke: DISQUALIFICATION	MATCH	10 minutes
Union	20:00	 Mat Bodie: ROUGHING	MINOR	2 minutes
Union	20:00	 Mat Bodie: FACEMASKING	MAJOR	5 minutes
Union	20:00	 Mat Bodie: DISQUALIFICATION	MATCH	10 minutes
Union	20:00	 Daniel Carr: ROUGHING	MINOR	2 minutes
Union	20:00	 Daniel Carr: 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT	10MINMISC	10 minutes
Union	20:00	 Mike Vecchione: ROUGHING	MINOR	2 minutes
Union	20:00	 Mike Vecchione: 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT	10MINMISC	10 minutes
Union	20:00	 Eli Lichtenwald: FIGHTING	MAJOR	5 minutes
Union	20:00	 Eli Lichtenwald: DISQUALIFICATION	MATCH	10 minutes

Jim Hyla


I have no idea what the ECAC will do, Ken Schott will tell us, but the box score looks good.

I don’t know who started it because I was sending a Tweet out with the result, and that is when all hell broke loose.

I just thought of this. Both teams are probably staying at the Best Western in Canton next weekend. Someone alert the authorities!

And there will be more punishment handed out. Don’t be surprised if Bennett gets some time off from not only the league, but from the school. He was out of control. If he hadn’t been held back, he could have done some damage to Appert.

That is all from the Times Union Center. I’m exhausted. I’ll be back with you Monday with my College Hockey Slap Schotts blog, or maybe sooner if their is news of suspensions.

David Harding

Ken Schott says

I don’t know who started it because I was sending a Tweet out with the result, and that is when all hell broke loose.

sah67
Video of the RPI-Union line brawl, including Appert and Bennett grabbing at each other:
[www.youtube.com]

MattS

sah67
Video of the RPI-Union line brawl, including Appert and Bennett grabbing at each other:
[www.youtube.com]

Obviously not knowing if anything happened before it but from this video the crosscheck to the facemask by the Union player at the faceoff seemed to spark things off at that moment.

If I was running things Bennett would be starting his golf season early, say Monday.

ugarte
all that and no goalie fight? what the hell?

French Rage
Dammit, why couldn't we be playing that pair next weekend!

TimV
So what exactly happens when a coach is suspended? Does that mean he doesn't go to the rink, run practices, scout film, recruit?

TimV
I just want to know that it's NOT just a matter of making the trip to the games next weekend.

Robb

TimV
I just want to know that it's NOT just a matter of making the trip to the games next weekend.

So far, it's just an employer (Union) taking disciplinary action against its own employee, so they can pretty much dictate whatever terms they want. If the league/NCAA steps in with any additional/concurrent punishment, then there is surely some official definition of what "suspended" means and what is and isn't allowed (such as coaching from the press box).

MattS
According to a blog written by Mike Eldelbes the Union suspension does not include running of practice this week. So Bennett can still do that just not coach at the games. If true it's pathetic.

MattS

Robb

TimV
I just want to know that it's NOT just a matter of making the trip to the games next weekend.

So far, it's just an employer (Union) taking disciplinary action against its own employee, so they can pretty much dictate whatever terms they want. If the league/NCAA steps in with any additional/concurrent punishment, then there is surely some official definition of what "suspended" means and what is and isn't allowed (such as coaching from the press box).

According to a blog written by Mike Eldelbes the Union suspension does not include running of practice this week. So Bennett can still do that just not coach at the games. If true it's pathetic.

Robb
it's "Appert."

Robb
Well, if the thread has come to the point of correcting spelling, it's "Appert." Whew, just cleared the shark....

marty
I'm about to

The Horse

Actions have consequences. So does lack of action. The number of after the final horn incidents is disgusting. A week ago it was the blindsiding of Cole Bardreau and now we have the embarrassment in Albany.


Has anyone else thought of forfeiting games as a solution? I don't think this would be simple. I wouldn't want to punish St. Lawrence or Clarkson (Union and RPI are there next week) for Union and RPI's shenanigans. But a forfeit of an upcoming home game would tend to put a damper on this trend. Perhaps a draconian punishment would send the message that I think is long overdue.

marty

ugarte
all that and no goalie fight? what the hell?

You forget, Appert is a goalie.

ursusminor
RPI blog Without a Peer on what happened in Albany on Saturday [board.uscho.com].

David Harding

ursusminor
RPI blog Without a Peer on what happened in Albany on Saturday [board.uscho.com].

The direct link to Without A Peer.

BMac
Well done, ECAC.

ursusminor

BMac
Well done, ECAC.

I still think that Bennett deserved to get the rest of the season off. I can't argue against the game given to Appert.

BMac
Well done, ECAC.

Jim Hyla

ursusminor

BMac
Well done, ECAC.

I still think that Bennett deserved to get the rest of the season off. I can't argue against the game given to Appert.

What did he do wrong?

capswon
I like the one post I saw from the finishyourcheck web site. It says that the Union coach looked like he was mad because he couldn't get in line for the buffet fast enough. Classic. Was also called Coach Fatty by same poster.

Beeeej

capswon
I like the one post I saw from the finishyourcheck web site. It says that the Union coach looked like he was mad because he couldn't get in line for the buffet fast enough. Classic. Was also called Coach Fatty by same poster.

Really? That's what we're finding "classic" these days?

Q: You guys love playing here at Messa Rink, but is there a rink on the road where you look forward going to?

A: There are a lot of good barns in our league. Cornell is a lot of fun to play at. Their fans get up for it. Whenever there is a lot of energy in the building, it's a lot of fun. Whenever we play at RPI, it's fun. I would say those two probably stick out the most.

Okay so it looks like I'm the only one who cares to write something about the Crimson. Can't really blame folks for abandoning the thread. I'll try and make this mildly interesting to read.

Just when you thought you had seen it all in college hockey, along comes tonight's game between two bottom feeders. First, the Zamboni developed mechanical problems that necessitated a call to a mechanic to come to the rink for repairs (I'm not making this up). The Zamboni repaired and the ice finished almost two hours after the original start time, the teams warmed up a bit when it was announced that the game would begin right away. Oh wait, what about the national anthem? Okay, well, we'll have the anthem played by the Harvard University band. Whoops, not so fast. A recording of the anthem starts playing even though the band is in attendance (now I see why they don't come to games anymore. I thought it was because the Crimson stink. Silly me). Then while the puck is dropped and play starts, the starting lineup for the Crimson is announced. Between the first and second periods, it was announced that Chuck a Puck would not happen for tonight's game. Fast forward to the second period and viola! Chuck a Puck will indeed take place between the second and third periods.

Yup, that's Harvard hockey 2013-2014. A colossal joke. The game was so bad, I really was wishing that I had stayed home and watched the opening ceremonies from Sochi. Would it have killed them to keep the men's basketball game on the big screen even after the hockey game commenced? There just wasn't anything good to say about tonight's game. Horrendous passing, no clue as to how to set up a play, on and on it goes. How the mighty have fallen.

To make matters worse, Guiltinan got another game disqualification when he rammed his elbow into the head of a Dartmouth player and they proceeded to roll on the ice and throw haymakers at each other. Guiltinan comes off the ice bleeding and laughing at the same time and Teddy does nothing. Not a word. This kind of nonsense would not be tolerated by Billy Cleary. Harvard continues to take stupid penalties (Esposito negates a PP only 16 seconds in) and their undisciplined play and total lack of focus is really alarming. Even during Tommasoni's last season, it wasn't this bad. How Teddy lets this happen is beyond me.

I don't really want to hear about how talented we are because that is a load of you know what. We don't have the talent people think we have. And it is really clear that Teddy has to go. Nothing personal but he can't run a D-1 program. He is overmatched and it shows. We blow and to say otherwise is to be in denial. Time for a program overhaul. Now.

Okay so it looks like I'm the only one who cares to write something about the Crimson. Can't really blame folks for abandoning the thread. I'll try and make this mildly interesting to read.

Just when you thought you had seen it all in college hockey, along comes tonight's game between two bottom feeders. First, the Zamboni developed mechanical problems that necessitated a call to a mechanic to come to the rink for repairs (I'm not making this up). The Zamboni repaired and the ice finished almost two hours after the original start time, the teams warmed up a bit when it was announced that the game would begin right away. Oh wait, what about the national anthem? Okay, well, we'll have the anthem played by the Harvard University band. Whoops, not so fast. A recording of the anthem starts playing even though the band is in attendance (now I see why they don't come to games anymore. I thought it was because the Crimson stink. Silly me). Then while the puck is dropped and play starts, the starting lineup for the Crimson is announced. Between the first and second periods, it was announced that Chuck a Puck would not happen for tonight's game. Fast forward to the second period and viola! Chuck a Puck will indeed take place between the second and third periods.

Yup, that's Harvard hockey 2013-2014. A colossal joke. The game was so bad, I really was wishing that I had stayed home and watched the opening ceremonies from Sochi. Would it have killed them to keep the men's basketball game on the big screen even after the hockey game commenced? There just wasn't anything good to say about tonight's game. Horrendous passing, no clue as to how to set up a play, on and on it goes. How the mighty have fallen.

To make matters worse, Guiltinan got another game disqualification when he rammed his elbow into the head of a Dartmouth player and they proceeded to roll on the ice and throw haymakers at each other. Guiltinan comes off the ice bleeding and laughing at the same time and Teddy does nothing. Not a word. This kind of nonsense would not be tolerated by Billy Cleary. Harvard continues to take stupid penalties (Esposito negates a PP only 16 seconds in) and their undisciplined play and total lack of focus is really alarming. Even during Tommasoni's last season, it wasn't this bad. How Teddy lets this happen is beyond me.

I don't really want to hear about how talented we are because that is a load of you know what. We don't have the talent people think we have. And it is really clear that Teddy has to go. Nothing personal but he can't run a D-1 program. He is overmatched and it shows. We blow and to say otherwise is to be in denial. Time for a program overhaul. Now.

TimV
This guy is a frequent poster on that thread and has, in the past, been pretty supportive. He has some connections to the current AD and "Billy." Can't say I blame him for his frustration. Just hope the frustration continues another month.

Trotsky
This is the post, from one of their (very few) prolific and knowledgable fans. The guy's not bad, he's just past his breaking point:

Okay so it looks like I'm the only one who cares to write something about the Crimson. Can't really blame folks for abandoning the thread. I'll try and make this mildly interesting to read.

Just when you thought you had seen it all in college hockey, along comes tonight's game between two bottom feeders. First, the Zamboni developed mechanical problems that necessitated a call to a mechanic to come to the rink for repairs (I'm not making this up). The Zamboni repaired and the ice finished almost two hours after the original start time, the teams warmed up a bit when it was announced that the game would begin right away. Oh wait, what about the national anthem? Okay, well, we'll have the anthem played by the Harvard University band. Whoops, not so fast. A recording of the anthem starts playing even though the band is in attendance (now I see why they don't come to games anymore. I thought it was because the Crimson stink. Silly me). Then while the puck is dropped and play starts, the starting lineup for the Crimson is announced. Between the first and second periods, it was announced that Chuck a Puck would not happen for tonight's game. Fast forward to the second period and viola! Chuck a Puck will indeed take place between the second and third periods.

Yup, that's Harvard hockey 2013-2014. A colossal joke. The game was so bad, I really was wishing that I had stayed home and watched the opening ceremonies from Sochi. Would it have killed them to keep the men's basketball game on the big screen even after the hockey game commenced? There just wasn't anything good to say about tonight's game. Horrendous passing, no clue as to how to set up a play, on and on it goes. How the mighty have fallen.

To make matters worse, Guiltinan got another game disqualification when he rammed his elbow into the head of a Dartmouth player and they proceeded to roll on the ice and throw haymakers at each other. Guiltinan comes off the ice bleeding and laughing at the same time and Teddy does nothing. Not a word. This kind of nonsense would not be tolerated by Billy Cleary. Harvard continues to take stupid penalties (Esposito negates a PP only 16 seconds in) and their undisciplined play and total lack of focus is really alarming. Even during Tommasoni's last season, it wasn't this bad. How Teddy lets this happen is beyond me.

I don't really want to hear about how talented we are because that is a load of you know what. We don't have the talent people think we have. And it is really clear that Teddy has to go. Nothing personal but he can't run a D-1 program. He is overmatched and it shows. We blow and to say otherwise is to be in denial. Time for a program overhaul. Now.

Esposito
@kguilts with a Prince George-esk hit and fight. Love to see it #goon #harvardhockey

TimV
4-2 final. What can Brown do for us?

marty
RPI's one dimensional Haggerty signs with the Rangers.

ursusminor

marty
RPI's one dimensional Haggerty signs with the Rangers.

and Mike Zalewski signed with the Canucks.

Trotsky
If we have no defections we may improve significantly just by standing in place. Assuming of course, we have a goalie.

Trotsky
The SLU thread on USCHO is mulling rumors that Matt Carey is going to do a 1-and-done and leave with brother Greg.

There was some back-channel talk that Matt was an atrocity academically, so this might also be a push and not merely a pull. If this is true, Bayreuther's going to be awfully lonely in Canton next year.

We don't know about Ferlin and Ryan's plans, but the rest of the ECAC seems to be imploding around us. RPI, Quinnipiac, Yale, Clarkson and Union are all losing many of their best players. (Colgate is in great shape -- their whole team is underclassmen). If we have no defections we may improve significantly just by standing in place. Assuming of course, we have a goalie.

Trotsky
For everyone who complains about ECAC officiating, it could be worse... or better.

Trotsky
Bennett wins the Penrose.

Jim Hyla

Trotsky
Bennett wins the Penrose.

Crap

Trotsky
Bennett wins the Penrose.

Trotsky
They're going to struggle next year, and their fans are going to freak out.

Be patient. Good things come to those who wait.

marty

Trotsky
They're going to struggle next year, and their fans are going to freak out.

Be patient. Good things come to those who wait.

I hope so but I remember the same was said in '12.

billhoward
Calls in a bomb threat at graduation ... from her cell phone?

Swampy

billhoward
Calls in a bomb threat at graduation ... from her cell phone?

Evidently not the brightest bulb in the lot. Might have benefited from going to class. Even if she were pocketing the money, she could have sat at the back of the room in Terrorism 101.