NCAA Tournament

The best Printable Bracket, from NCAA.com via CHN.

From ESPN:

Here's the seeding:

Regional Breakdown
East Regional (Providence, R.I.)
1. Quinnipiac (27-7-5) -- at-large selection (No. 1 overall seed)
2. Boston College (22-11-4) -- at-large selection
3. Union (21-12-5) -- ECAC champion
4. Canisius (19-18-5) -- Atlantic Hockey champion

Midwest Regional (Toledo, Ohio)
1. Notre Dame (25-12-3) -- CCHA champion (No. 4 overall seed)
2. Miami (24-11-5) -- at-large selection
3. Minnesota State (24-13-3) -- at-large selection
4. St. Cloud State (23-15-1) -- at-large selection

Northeast Regional (Manchester, N.H.)
1. UMass-Lowell (26-10-2) -- Hockey East champion (No. 3 overall seed)
2. New Hampshire (19-11-7) -- at-large selection
3. Denver (20-13-5) -- at-large selection
4. Wisconsin (22-12-7) -- WCHA champion

West Regional (Grand Rapids, Mich.)
1. Minnesota (26-8-5) -- at-large selection (No. 2 overall seed)
2. North Dakota (21-12-7) -- at-large selection
3. Niagara (23-9-5) -- at-large selection
4. Yale (18-12-3) -- at-large selection

And the TV schedule:

All times are ET

First round

Friday, March 29

W1 Minnesota vs. W4 Yale, 2 p.m. ET (ESPNU)
NE1 UMass-Lowell vs. NE4 Wisconsin, 4:30 p.m. ET(ESPN3/Syndicated)
W2 North Dakota vs. W3 Niagara, 5:30 p.m. ET (ESPNU)
NE 2 New Hampshire vs. NE3 Denver, 8 p.m. ET (ESPNU)

Saturday, March 30

MW1 Notre Dame vs. MW4 St. Cloud State, 1:30 p.m. ET (ESPN3/Syndicated)
MW2 Miami vs. MW3 Minnesota State, 5 p.m. ET ((ESPN3/Syndicated)
E1 Quinnipiac vs. E4 Canisius, 5:30 p.m. ET (ESPN3/Syndicated)
E2 Boston College vs. E3 Union, 9 p.m. ET (ESPNU)

Second round

Saturday, March 30

West Regional Final, 4 p.m. ET (ESPNU)
Northeast Regional Final, 6:30 p.m. ET (ESPNU)

Sunday, March 31

Midwest Regional Final, 4 p.m. ET (ESPNU)
East Regional Final, 6:30 p.m. ET (ESPNU)

Semifinals (Pittsburgh, Pa.)

Thursday, April 11

National Semifinal, 4:30 p.m. ET (ESPN2)
National Semifinal, 8 p.m. ET (ESPN2)

Final (Pittsburgh, Pa.)

Saturday, April 13

National Semifinal winners, 7 p.m. ET (ESPN)

Any bracket where Wisconsin has to fly east is good for me.

-Still bitter from 2006

BMac
Any bracket where Wisconsin has to fly east is good for me.

-Still bitter from 2006

Any bracket without Michigan is good for me.

Josh '99

BMac
Any bracket where Wisconsin has to fly east is good for me.

-Still bitter from 2006

Any bracket without Michigan is good for me.

No Maine or BU, either. It's like Christmas in March.

The last time both Michigan and Michigan State missed the tournament, Willie Stargell was still playing.

Trotsky

Josh '99

BMac
Any bracket where Wisconsin has to fly east is good for me.

-Still bitter from 2006

Any bracket without Michigan is good for me.

No Maine or BU, either. It's like Christmas in March.

The last time both Michigan and Michigan State missed the tournament, Willie Stargell was still playing.

If the Gophers can get exterminated in Grand Rapids, that would make me happy.

Rita

Trotsky

Josh '99

BMac
Any bracket where Wisconsin has to fly east is good for me.

-Still bitter from 2006

Any bracket without Michigan is good for me.

No Maine or BU, either. It's like Christmas in March.

The last time both Michigan and Michigan State missed the tournament, Willie Stargell was still playing.

If the Gophers can get exterminated in Grand Rapids, that would make me happy.

In the afterlife, Minnesota and BC will be forced to play infinite overtimes with no stoppages in Meehan Auditorium in front of the Harvard fanbase. The game will be called by the SLU announcers and streamed on RedCast.

Trotsky

Rita

Trotsky

Josh '99

BMac
Any bracket where Wisconsin has to fly east is good for me.

-Still bitter from 2006

Any bracket without Michigan is good for me.

No Maine or BU, either. It's like Christmas in March.

The last time both Michigan and Michigan State missed the tournament, Willie Stargell was still playing.

If the Gophers can get exterminated in Grand Rapids, that would make me happy.

In the afterlife, Minnesota and BC will be forced to play infinite overtimes with no stoppages in Meehan Auditorium in front of the Harvard fanbase. The game will be called by the SLU announcers and streamed on RedCast.

Fits my definition of hell. Hope I'm not watching this for eternity.

Trotsky

Rita

Trotsky

Josh '99

BMac
Any bracket where Wisconsin has to fly east is good for me.

-Still bitter from 2006

Any bracket without Michigan is good for me.

No Maine or BU, either. It's like Christmas in March.

The last time both Michigan and Michigan State missed the tournament, Willie Stargell was still playing.

If the Gophers can get exterminated in Grand Rapids, that would make me happy.

In the afterlife, Minnesota and BC will be forced to play infinite overtimes with no stoppages in Meehan Auditorium in front of the Harvard fanbase. The game will be called by the SLU announcers and streamed on RedCast.

Q: Who are the refs?

A: All of them.

MUUUURPHYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BMac
MUUUURPHYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pierre is in there somewhere. Wearing Kupka's truss.

So you guys keep on talking about all the teams you hate, I'll complain about more important things, such as poor writing, or understanding.

From Times-Union story on Union, and a little on RPI:

Union is one of three ECAC teams to make the field, but RPI was not among them. The Engineers, despite a second-place regular-season finish, did not finish high enough in the PairWise Rankings, a computer formula that determines the 11 at-large bids.

Read more: [www.timesunion.com]

So what formula did the computer come up wth this week to knock dear old RPI out of the NCAAs? Maybe next year the computer can come up with a new formula. We'll see what that one does to RPI. Give me a break, who is that writer?

By the way, the second headline for the article is, "Boston College up next for Dutchmen; RPI is denied an at-large bid". Yeah, just like everyone else.

Trotsky

BMac
MUUUURPHYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pierre is in there somewhere. Wearing Kupka's truss.

And Mike Noeth operating the video review equipment ensuring the video review equipment is inoperable.

kingpin248

Trotsky

BMac
MUUUURPHYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pierre is in there somewhere. Wearing Kupka's truss.

And Mike Noeth operating the video review equipment ensuring the video review equipment is inoperable.

Holy shit, I had completely forgotten Noeth. That's like forgetting Satan.

Trotsky

kingpin248

Trotsky

BMac
MUUUURPHYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pierre is in there somewhere. Wearing Kupka's truss.

And Mike Noeth operating the video review equipment ensuring the video review equipment is inoperable.

Holy shit, I had completely forgotten Noeth. That's like forgetting Satan.

Was his last game that awful Cornell-Colgate consy in Placid in 2000, or does my memry fail me?

Oh, I'd call this a sweet, sweet challenge either to John or somebody of similar skill.

Trotsky
Oh, I'd call this a sweet, sweet challenge either to John or somebody of similar skill.

Doesn't have quite the visual flair, but here are the Bradley-Terry based probabilities for the Sweet 16.

And since I have the spreadsheet set up to handle a 16-team bracket, here are the probabilities for the NCAA hockey tournament.

kingpin248

Trotsky
Oh, I'd call this a sweet, sweet challenge either to John or somebody of similar skill.

Doesn't have quite the visual flair, but here are the Bradley-Terry based probabilities for the Sweet 16.

And since I have the spreadsheet set up to handle a 16-team bracket, here are the probabilities for the NCAA hockey tournament.

Thanks! One of the things that jumps out is how low FGCU's chances are. I wonder, is this because of the stiff competition a #15 must face, or is it because of the #15's suckatude? Has anyone tried to decompose the index?

kingpin248

Trotsky
Oh, I'd call this a sweet, sweet challenge either to John or somebody of similar skill.

Doesn't have quite the visual flair, but here are the Bradley-Terry based probabilities for the Sweet 16.

And since I have the spreadsheet set up to handle a 16-team bracket, here are the probabilities for the NCAA hockey tournament.

No offense, but you're wasting your time. It doesn't matter what the probabilities say, fucking BC is going to win again. It's inevitable.



INEBITABERR!

Josh '99

kingpin248

Trotsky
Oh, I'd call this a sweet, sweet challenge either to John or somebody of similar skill.

Doesn't have quite the visual flair, but here are the Bradley-Terry based probabilities for the Sweet 16.

And since I have the spreadsheet set up to handle a 16-team bracket, here are the probabilities for the NCAA hockey tournament.

No offense, but you're wasting your time. It doesn't matter what the probabilities say, fucking BC is going to win again. It's inevitable.

kim_jong_il_team_america_world_police.jpg

INEBITABERR!

The thought of BC winning again makes me sad, like when I'm so ronery and sadry arone.

kingpin248
And since I have the spreadsheet set up to handle a 16-team bracket, here are the probabilities for the NCAA hockey tournament.

I think something is wrong with your numbers. You're showing that teams from outside the WCHA have a chance and based on comments on USCHO that simply isn't possible.

Wasnt that the pidgin-Asian phrasing that got the Duke frat in trouble at its Taste of Bangkok theme party?

Here is the ESPNU game link for 2pm Yale-Wisconsin.

Records of current ECAC members in the tournament (if you can bear it).

Trotsky
Here is the ESPNU game link for 2pm Yale-Wisconsin.

Records of current ECAC members in the tournament (if you can bear it).

Supposedly wybc has the audio feed, but the website and my computer's version of IE aren't playing nice and Safari loaded up quicktime.

Go BullDogs! Go Yale!!

For those who were at the 2009 Grand Rapid regional, what was the name of that bar where we drowned our sorrows after that BSU game? Just curious. I remember the carbombs, and have since found (and made) cake verisons of carbombs.

Rita, can you not get the ESPNU feed? It's working great here.

Except Van Andel blasts garbage pop 1/10th of a second into every stoppage. We should just start killing MBAs until they stop.

Least Semitic version of "Hava Nagila" that I have ever heard.

Trotsky
Rita, can you not get the ESPNU feed? It's working great here.

Except Van Andel blasts garbage pop 1/10th of a second into every stoppage. We should just start killing MBAs until they stop.

I'm at work, so wanted more of the description that audio provides over the video announcers.

Rita

Trotsky
Rita, can you not get the ESPNU feed? It's working great here.

Except Van Andel blasts garbage pop 1/10th of a second into every stoppage. We should just start killing MBAs until they stop.

I'm at work, so wanted more of the description that audio provides over the video announcers.

Makes sense, though the PBP guy is not bad. The sidebar stuff sucks, but it always does.

Pretty goal by Agostino fed by Miller, 1-0.

Trotsky
Here is the ESPNU game link for 2pm Yale-Wisconsin.

Records of current ECAC members in the tournament (if you can bear it).

Yale 1 Gophers 0 mid 2nd

Yale has forgotten about last week. Don't tell Ken Schott. It's 2-0 Eli.

Chris '03
Yale has forgotten about last week. Don't tell Ken Schott. It's 2-0 Eli.

And given they aren't Harvard they might actually hold the lead.

The Minny player interviewed between periods looked dazed. I'm not sure the WCHA expected this kind of a fight from the EZAC.

Trotsky

Chris '03
Yale has forgotten about last week. Don't tell Ken Schott. It's 2-0 Eli.

And given they aren't Harvard they might actually hold the lead.

The Minny player interviewed between periods looked dazed. I'm not sure the WCHA expected this kind of a fight from the EZAC.

They have the look of a team that prepared to play North Dakota tomorrow.

Chris '03
Yale has forgotten about last week. Don't tell Ken Schott. It's 2-0 Eli.

Already two more goals in Grand Rapids than they scored in AC.

Chris '03
Yale has forgotten about last week. Don't tell Ken Schott. It's 2-0 Eli.

2-1 with about 9:00 to go

nyc94

Chris '03
Yale has forgotten about last week. Don't tell Ken Schott. It's 2-0 Eli.

2-1 with about 9:00 to go

Tied up. 6 and change left. Yale had looked tentative for a few minutes.

Trotsky

Chris '03
Yale has forgotten about last week. Don't tell Ken Schott. It's 2-0 Eli.

And given they aren't Harvard they might actually hold the lead.

Well, at least you said "might".

Chris '03

nyc94

Chris '03
Yale has forgotten about last week. Don't tell Ken Schott. It's 2-0 Eli.

2-1 with about 9:00 to go

Tied up. 6 and change left. Yale had looked tentative for a few minutes.

Going to OT.

Wow.

Yale wins at :06

Same thing Holy Cross did in '06.

holy shit!!1 Yale wins!!!!!

Minnesota's Pride on the Links!

Gotta love it!! Just 6 seconds into OT! Great job Yale.

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow!

We're on chat, if you like.

Nicely done, Yale.

Overtime goal by Jesse Root - 9 seconds into OT !

I was just realizing (though I guess I probably should have days ago) that this year's tournament is not only lacking in many of the usual suspects (Michigan, BU, Maine, Michigan State), but it's also pretty heavily loaded with teams that have never won the tournament before (which I will generally find myself rooting for unless it's Clarkson). Today's regional semis each matched a previous champion (in fact, a previous multiple-time champion) against a team that's never won the tournament before, with Minnesota already out, and tomorrow's regional semifinals actually feature seven teams that have never won the tournament before and just one that has. So, go Lowell, go Niagara, go UNH, and go (yuck) Union! Then this year's Frozen Four will really be a novel experience.

Josh '99
So, go Lowell, go Niagara, go UNH, and go (yuck) Union! Then this year's Frozen Four will really be a novel experience.

Nope, nope, nope.

ugarte

Josh '99
So, go Lowell, go Niagara, go UNH, and go (yuck) Union! Then this year's Frozen Four will really be a novel experience.

Nope, nope, nope.

I will allow that, of the five tournament entrants that are previous champions, Denver are probably tied with Wisconsin as the least intolerable. Still, I think my grudge against UNH has faded to the point where I will root for them at least in the regional semifinal in support of the goal I mentioned in my previous post. (I would root for Lowell over them at that point, if that were to be the matchup in the regional final.) It's not like they were particularly goonish in beating us in prior tournaments, and it was the ref who disallowed that goal in 2003, not the UNH players or coach; their fans also aren't particularly intolerable, no doubt because of the tournament futility that led to this discussion in the first place.

Wisco was the WCHA member who wasn't a pox, and next year they'll be the Big 10 member who isn't a pox. I really like that program and its fans.

Trotsky
Wisco was the WCHA member who wasn't a pox, and next year they'll be the Big 10 member who isn't a pox. I really like that program and its fans.

I agree. Their fans were respoectful and complimentary after that amazing regional in Green Bay. The goofers at Mariucci? Not so much.

And I have no hard feelings against UNH, other than the fact that they get what's essentially a home game at the regionals every couple years.

UMass-Lowell 6 vs Wisc. 1 - great game for UMass!

Rita

For those who were at the 2009 Grand Rapid regional, what was the name of that bar where we drowned our sorrows after that BSU game? Just curious. I remember the carbombs, and have since found (and made) cake verisons of carbombs.

I didn't do the Sunday postgame, as I decided that rather than drown my sorrows, I'd go to sleep, get up at 4 and get to work on time. However, the Saturday postgame and the Sunday pregame were at the Ottawa Tavern.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Trotsky
Wisco was the WCHA member who wasn't a pox, and next year they'll be the Big 10 member who isn't a pox. I really like that program and its fans.

I agree. Their fans were respoectful and complimentary after that amazing regional in Green Bay. The goofers at Mariucci? Not so much.

And I have no hard feelings against UNH, other than the fact that they get what's essentially a home game at the regionals every couple years.

And it seems to be the same for all of their sports. At the Rose Bowl this year their fans were nice and just seemed happy to be there, and didn't feel the need to be jerks. (Yes this is just a cheap ploy to bring up Stanford winning the Rose Bowl.)

profudge
UMass-Lowell 6 vs Wisc. 1 - great game for UMass!

I don't read a lot of non-eLF coverage, but ... nobody calls Lowell "UMass", right? I mean, there's a UMass and they play in Amherst.

Chris '03

Trotsky

Chris '03
Yale has forgotten about last week. Don't tell Ken Schott. It's 2-0 Eli.

And given they aren't Harvard they might actually hold the lead.

The Minny player interviewed between periods looked dazed. I'm not sure the WCHA expected this kind of a fight from the EZAC.

They have the look of a team that prepared to play North Dakota tomorrow.

+1

profudge
Overtime goal by Jesse Root - 9 seconds into OT !

I just quoting profudge here because it's the last of a series congratulating Yale and expressing shear joy at (a) an ECAC/Ivy team winning and (b) the Goofers going home. (I expect the latter carries more weight, although there's a obvious interaction effect.)

Did it occur to any of you that there's probably more jubilation here than on Yale's board on USCHO? Since the win, there have been quite a few posts. But it seems the vast majority of them have come from fans of other teams congratulating the bulldogs.

Maybe all the Yale fans are still at the games. Even if you live in California, it's not that hard to attend the regional semi's when you have a private jet.

ugarte

profudge
UMass-Lowell 6 vs Wisc. 1 - great game for UMass!

I don't read a lot of non-eLF coverage, but ... nobody calls Lowell "UMass", right? I mean, there's a UMass and they play in Amherst.

Agree

Josh '99
I was just realizing (though I guess I probably should have days ago) that this year's tournament is not only lacking in many of the usual suspects (Michigan, BU, Maine, Michigan State), but it's also pretty heavily loaded with teams that have never won the tournament before (which I will generally find myself rooting for unless it's Clarkson). Today's regional semis each matched a previous champion (in fact, a previous multiple-time champion) against a team that's never won the tournament before, with Minnesota already out, and tomorrow's regional semifinals actually feature seven teams that have never won the tournament before and just one that has. So, go Lowell, go Niagara, go UNH, and go (yuck) Union! Then this year's Frozen Four will really be a novel experience.

At this rate, I'm just very happy for someone that is NOT BC to win it all this year. Although, it will hurt if it's one of the ECAC teams. But I really don't want to sit through another BC victory. I've seen too many in person as it is.

WZHA: UNH 5 – DU 2

judy

Josh '99
I was just realizing (though I guess I probably should have days ago) that this year's tournament is not only lacking in many of the usual suspects (Michigan, BU, Maine, Michigan State), but it's also pretty heavily loaded with teams that have never won the tournament before (which I will generally find myself rooting for unless it's Clarkson). Today's regional semis each matched a previous champion (in fact, a previous multiple-time champion) against a team that's never won the tournament before, with Minnesota already out, and tomorrow's regional semifinals actually feature seven teams that have never won the tournament before and just one that has. So, go Lowell, go Niagara, go UNH, and go (yuck) Union! Then this year's Frozen Four will really be a novel experience.

At this rate, I'm just very happy for someone that is NOT BC to win it all this year. Although, it will hurt if it's one of the ECAC teams. But I really don't want to sit through another BC victory. I've seen too many in person as it is.

Don't bother. They're going to win. It's inevitable.

Sorry - thought it was obvious I was referring to UMass-Lowell in the previous score

Yale game winner

[www.youtube.com]

Edit: if someone knows how to get it to show up directly here, feel free to edit this and I'll put something else here, maybe an essay about Gloria Steinem.

If you're in the New Haven area, the Yalies are showing today's game on a large screen in Payne-Whitney Gymnasium.

ugarte
Yale game winner

[www.youtube.com]

Edit: if someone knows how to get it to show up directly here, feel free to edit this and I'll put something else here, maybe an essay about Gloria Steinem.

Textbook. Yale knows exactly how to deal with teams that take the puck behind their own net to regroup for a rush. Cornell has been giving them loads of practice on how to jump down the throats of a line not expecting an aggressive forecheck in that situation for several years. I've seen that steal behind the net by them a lot. Steal, pop it in front, goal, Golfing Gophers.

"How was overtime?"
"Well, we won the faceoff and the game was over in 9 seconds."
"AWESOME!"
"..."

Does anyone here know why they are serving the BC Eagles on Onion at nine PM? BC was expected to be in Manchester so it can't be for TV.

If I were a Union fan I'd be pissed to have to drive back to Schenectady on Easter morning. I guess renting a room would be the best option assuming a Union win.

With Union's history as a predictor, the game could end at three AM with a third OT goal by the visiting team.

TW in the Albany area has ND vs. St. Cloud listed on ch 1. It isn't there and I am blacked out of the ESPN3 version.

I called TW and the woman said there was more than one call. Imagine that Notre Dame is missing and their fans are making their displeasure known.

The situation is also lame because channel 1 isn't HD while ESPN3 is,

SCSU up 1-0, start of second.

ugarte
SCSU up 1-0, start of second.

4-0 end 2nd

Now the Miami game is blackout restricted. So ESPN thinks I'm too dopey to watch two games at once. And since the game isn't on ESPN3 the reason they won't let me watch is erroneous.

I don't understand why but the blackout was lifted for me. (Just as it was earlier for the ND St. Cloud game.)

The Yale/North Dakota game is on ESPNU (Directv 208)
The Minn State/Miami game is on FSN (Directv 668) and is not blacked out for Directv

judy
The Yale/North Dakota game is on ESPNU (Directv 208)
The Minn State/Miami game is on FSN (Directv 668) and is not blacked out for Directv

Yale trails 1-0 start of 3rd

nyc94

judy
The Yale/North Dakota game is on ESPNU (Directv 208)
The Minn State/Miami game is on FSN (Directv 668) and is not blacked out for Directv

Yale trails 1-0 start of 3rd

Yale's outplaying them but is snakebit.

Canisius/Q on NESN (Directv 628) - Q leading 1-0, almost end of 1

Well St Cloud wins an NCAA game. The world I grew up in is no more.

Trotsky
Yale's outplaying them but is snakebit.

To be fair, with the three resonant posts (commentator says four, but I think it's three), NoDak has also been a bit snakebit.

BTW, interesting to see refs actually call interference when Allain had them run "the Play."

Yake ties it up. 7:35 left in the 3rd

Yale ties!

And I'm torn! It'd be nice to have the last WCHA team kicked out and at the same time, Yale goes to Pittsburgh.

judy
Yale ties!

And I'm torn! It'd be nice to have the last WCHA team kicked out and at the same time, Yale goes to Pittsburgh.

Ummm... St. Cloud? Not NCHC yet!

Scersk '97

judy
Yale ties!

And I'm torn! It'd be nice to have the last WCHA team kicked out and at the same time, Yale goes to Pittsburgh.

Ummm... St. Cloud? Not NCHC yet!

I can live with St. Cloud. Sioux fans are too arrogant.

Scersk '97

judy
Yale ties!

And I'm torn! It'd be nice to have the last WCHA team kicked out and at the same time, Yale goes to Pittsburgh.

Ummm... St. Cloud? Not NCHC yet!

Okay. I'll take St Cloud.

And holy crap, Yale! Up 2-1 now!

judy
Okay. I'll take St Cloud.

And holy crap, Yale! Up 2-1 now!

Considering how Hartzell is playing, perhaps Yale's got to get it done...

Scersk '97

judy
Okay. I'll take St Cloud.

And holy crap, Yale! Up 2-1 now!

Considering how Hartzell is playing, perhaps Yale's got to get it done...

The #1 seed curse. We learned it the hard way

Scersk '97

judy
Okay. I'll take St Cloud.

And holy crap, Yale! Up 2-1 now!

Considering how Hartzell is playing, perhaps Yale's got to get it done...

Long way to go in the Q game.

Edit: although that first Canisius goal was a howler.

I remember all the talk on this board a couple years ago about how well Yale's system would hold up on a national level, but seems to me regardless of the result today, that they have been skating evenly with both NoDak and Minnesota yesterday. Certainly no major shot disparities like some of the Cornell games against those teams.

Sweet third goal by Yale. Beautiful play.

4-1 Yale on an eng. 2 years in a row with an ECAC F4 team.

underskill
I remember all the talk on this board a couple years ago about how well Yale's system would hold up on a national level, but seems to me regardless of the result today, that they have been skating evenly with both NoDak and Minnesota yesterday. Certainly no major shot disparities like some of the Cornell games against those teams.

This is their payback for 2011, when I thought they got jobbed a bit.

We'll see how well their system holds up next year with potentially shaky goaltending.

Scersk '97

underskill
I remember all the talk on this board a couple years ago about how well Yale's system would hold up on a national level, but seems to me regardless of the result today, that they have been skating evenly with both NoDak and Minnesota yesterday. Certainly no major shot disparities like some of the Cornell games against those teams.

This is their payback for 2011, when I thought they got jobbed a bit.

We'll see how well their system holds up next year with potentially shaky goaltending.

And without Miller.

They've lost a number of great players over the last few years.

Alright, I'll say it: Frozen Four appearances in back-to-back years for the ECAC, including one Ivy team. Perhaps we should re-consider the effects of ECAC and Ivy rules on ECAC teams' ability to compete at the national level...

Trotsky

Scersk '97

underskill
I remember all the talk on this board a couple years ago about how well Yale's system would hold up on a national level, but seems to me regardless of the result today, that they have been skating evenly with both NoDak and Minnesota yesterday. Certainly no major shot disparities like some of the Cornell games against those teams.

This is their payback for 2011, when I thought they got jobbed a bit.

We'll see how well their system holds up next year with potentially shaky goaltending.

And without Miller.

They've lost a number of great players over the last few years.

Here's who they lose.

8 	Josh Balch 	F 	Sr. 	5-9 	180 	Wilmette, IL / Desmoines, Chicago (USHL)
21 	Colin Dueck 	D 	Sr. 	6-2 	220 	Calgary, AB / Nanaimo (BCHL)
28 	A. Laganiere 	F 	Sr. 	6-4 	215 	Ile Cadieux, QUE / Deerfield Academy
33 	Jeff Malcolm 	G 	Sr. 	6-2 	185 	Lethbridge, AB / Quesnel (BCHL)
31 	Nick Maricic 	G 	Sr. 	6-2 	212 	Alta Loma, CA / Tri-City (USHL)
17 	Andrew Miller 	F 	Sr. 	5-10 	180 	Bloomfield Hills, MI / Chicago (USHL)

Certainly Miller, but Malcolm has to be the toughest to replace. Anybody know about any goalie recruits that they are getting?

However this is the team that I waiting to see how they regroup. Q

7 	Ben Arnt 	 FORWARD 	Sr. 	5-11 	181 	Oakdale, Minn. / Omaha (USHL)
4 	Loren Barron 	 DEFENSEMAN 	Sr. 	6-1 	195 	Glendora, Calif. / Indiana (USHL)
9 	Kevin Bui 	 FORWARD 	Sr. 	5-11 	175 	Edmonton, Alb. / Drumheller (AJHL)
23 	Zack Currie 	 DEFENSEMAN 	Sr. 	5-11 	185 	Victoria, British Columbia / Cowichan Valley (BCHL)
2 	Mike Dalhuisen 	 DEFENSEMAN 	Sr. 	6-3 	215 	Nymegen, Holland / Lincoln (USHL)
3 	Zach Davies 	 DEFENSEMAN 	Sr. 	6-0 	170 	Smithers, British Columbia / Prince George (BCHL)
11 	Russell Goodman  FORWARD 	Sr. 	6-1 	193 	Saskatoon, Saskatchewan / Nanaimo (BCHL)
33 	Eric Hartzell 	 GOALTENDER 	Sr. 	6-4 	188 	White Bear Lake, Minn. / Sioux Falls (USHL)
39 	Clay Harvey 	 FORWARD 	Sr. 	5-9 	180 	Gull Lake, Saskatewan / Powell River (BCHL)
17 	Jeremy Langlois  FORWARD 	Sr. 	6-0 	173 	Tempe, Ariz. / New Jersey (EJHL)
14 	Reese Rolheiser  FORWARD 	Sr. 	5-10 	170 	Edmonton, Alberta / Sherwood Park (AJHL)

Whereas, while we're on this line of inquiry, RPI loses practically nobody. Casey continues to rebuild at Clarkson. Perhaps Harvard finally fires Teddy?

I have to think that next year is the year that the traditional powers of the ECAC (RPI, SLU, Clarkson, Harvard, and, well, us) reassert themselves.

Perhaps it's time for Q to go with the empty net, a la Parker.

Not sure why people here want Yale to keep winning. It doesn't actually do Cornell any bit of good because the rankings are computerized, and I don't want Cornell to no longer be the team that has gotten the farthest in the NCAA tourney in recent memory.

Nonetheless, it's official: Yale is better than Cornell at hockey right now. I don't mean this current team, I mean the entire current program. They've now been doing this for an extended period of time, despite losing players to graduation, with a great system that Cornell can't ever beat.

BearLover
Nonetheless, it's official: Yale is better than Cornell at hockey right now. I don't mean this current team, I mean the entire current program. They've now been doing this for an extended period of time, despite losing players to graduation, with a great system that Cornell can't ever beat.

So... "extended period of time" = 6 years? Troll, or too young to understand time?

The more accurate statement would be that Yale is better than Harvard right now, i.e., that they've replaced Harvard as the second-best Ivy.

Scersk '97

BearLover
Nonetheless, it's official: Yale is better than Cornell at hockey right now. I don't mean this current team, I mean the entire current program. They've now been doing this for an extended period of time, despite losing players to graduation, with a great system that Cornell can't ever beat.

So... "extended period of time" = 6 years? Troll, or too young to understand time?

6 years IS a long time in college sports. That said, I disagree with his conclusion.

Scersk '97

BearLover
Nonetheless, it's official: Yale is better than Cornell at hockey right now. I don't mean this current team, I mean the entire current program. They've now been doing this for an extended period of time, despite losing players to graduation, with a great system that Cornell can't ever beat.

So... "extended period of time" = 6 years? Troll, or too young to understand time?

This time I have to agree with BearLover's saying extended period of time. To me having done it over a number of graduating classes qualifies. That's why I was never a Q fan, they built up to one great class, now, but haven't shown any consistency. Next year they could fall to near the bottom. Yale and probably Union have shown that they are for real.

Jim Hyla

Here's who Yale loses

8 	Josh Balch 	F 	Sr. 	5-9 	180 	Wilmette, IL / Desmoines, Chicago (USHL)
21 	Colin Dueck 	D 	Sr. 	6-2 	220 	Calgary, AB / Nanaimo (BCHL)
28 	A. Laganiere 	F 	Sr. 	6-4 	215 	Ile Cadieux, QUE / Deerfield Academy
33 	Jeff Malcolm 	G 	Sr. 	6-2 	185 	Lethbridge, AB / Quesnel (BCHL)
31 	Nick Maricic 	G 	Sr. 	6-2 	212 	Alta Loma, CA / Tri-City (USHL)
17 	Andrew Miller 	F 	Sr. 	5-10 	180 	Bloomfield Hills, MI / Chicago (USHL) 

I could also see Calgary asking Agostino to leave.

ugarte

Scersk '97

BearLover
Nonetheless, it's official: Yale is better than Cornell at hockey right now. I don't mean this current team, I mean the entire current program. They've now been doing this for an extended period of time, despite losing players to graduation, with a great system that Cornell can't ever beat.

So... "extended period of time" = 6 years? Troll, or too young to understand time?

6 years IS a long time in college sports. That said, I disagree with his conclusion.

Given that the Taylor legacy is now well and truly dead at Yale, I will say that Allain does seem to be for real and, thus, Yale will be until he leaves or proves himself unworthy. But I'd still like to see how they respond to a down period.

Canisius and Q are now tied 3-3. 3rd. 8:30 min to go as I post