2012-13 Polls Men & Women

So I thought it might be nice to put the weekly polls and discussion all in one thread.

Here's todays USCHO Men's

October 15, 2012
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
                      (Place)
                      (Votes)
1	Minnesota	(46)	2- 0-0	991	2
2	North Dakota	( 1)	0- 0-0	894	4
3	Boston College	( 2)	0- 1-0	878	1
4	Miami		        2- 0-0	751	8
5	Michigan		1- 1-0	726	3
6	Cornell		        0- 0-0	714	5
7	Denver		        0- 0-0	690	7
8	Union	        ( 1)	2- 1-0	606	10
9	Notre Dame		2- 0-0	583	14
10	Massachusetts-Lowell	0- 0-1	576	6
11	Boston University	1- 0-0	549	12
12	Western Michigan	1- 1-0	422	9
13	Minnesota-Duluth	1- 1-0	308	13
14	Northeastern		2- 0-0	283	NR
15	New Hampshire		2- 0-0	273	NR
16	Ferris State		0- 1-1	218	11
17	Harvard		        0- 0-0	213	17
17	Northern Michigan	2- 0-0	213	NR
19	Colorado College	2- 0-0	194	NR
20	Quinnipiac		2- 1-0	74	18
Others receiving votes: Air Force 47, Wisconsin 47, Maine 40, Rensselaer 40, Ohio State 39, 
Nebraska-Omaha 37, Merrimack 33, Michigan State 17, Rochester Institute of Technology 12, 
St. Cloud State 9, Lake Superior 7, St. Lawrence 6, Providence 4, Minnesota State 3, Yale 3.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

USA Today/Hockey Men's

Week 2: Men's College Hockey Poll

Men's Poll - Week 2: October 15, 2012   
 	Team  Points (First)  2011-12   Last Poll 
                     (Place)  Record
                     (Votes)
1  Minnesota      507 (30)     2-0-0    1
2  North Dakota	  439 (1)      0-0-0    4
3  Boston College 421 (1)      0-1-0    2
4  Miami	  343          2-0-0    8
5  Cornell	  328          0-0-0    5
6  Michigan	  316          1-1-0    3 
7  Union College  276 (1)      2-1-0    9
8  Denver	  273          0-0-0   10
9  UMass Lowell	  241          0-0-1    6 
10 Notre Dame	  215          2-0-0   13
11 Boston Univ    178          1-0-0   14  
12 Western Mich   153          1-1-0    7 
13 Minn Duluth	   75          1-1-0    12 
14 Ferris State    53          0-1-1    11 
15 Northern Mich   52          2-0-0    NR 

Others receiving votes: Northeastern University, 49; University of New Hampshire, 45; 
Colorado College, 38; Harvard University, 34; Quinnipiac University, 19; 
University of Maine, 11; Ohio State University, 8; University of Nebraska-Omaha, 3; 
United States Air Force Academy, 2, Rochester Institute of Technology, 1.

And Women's USCHO

October 15, 2012
	Team	     (First)  	Record	Points	Last Poll
                     (Place)
                     (Votes)
1	Minnesota	(15)	6- 0-0	150	1
2	Cornell		        0- 0-0	132	2
3	Boston University	3- 0-0	119	3
4	Boston College		0- 1-0	89	5
5	Clarkson		4- 0-0	81	7
6	Ohio State		5- 1-0	54	10
7	Mercyhurst		5- 0-1	48	9
8	Northeastern		4- 0-0	47	8
9	Wisconsin		3- 2-1	34	4
10	North Dakota		2- 2-0	33	6
Others receiving votes: Minnesota-Duluth 28, Harvard 10.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

Last Week's Women's USA Today/Hockey

Week 3: Women's College Hockey Poll

Women's Poll - Week 3: Oct. 9, 2012 
 	Team  Points (First) 2012-13 Last Poll  
                     (Place) Record   
1  	Minnesota  190 (19)  4-0-0  1
2  	Cornell	   171       0-0-0  2
3  	Wisconsin  136       3-0-1  3
4  	Boston U   136       1-0-0  6
5  	Boston C   103       0-1-0  4
6  	North Dak   63       1-1-0  5
7  	Clarkson    61       2-0-0 NR
8  	Northeastern56       2-0-0 NR
9  	Mercyhurst  53       3-0-1 10
10	Ohio State  35       4-0-0 NR

Others receiving votes:Harvard University, 32; University of Minnesota Duluth, 4; 
Providence College, 3; University of New Hampshire, 1; Minnesota State University Mankato, 1.

So who gives Union a first place vote?
And if anyone has a link to an easily formatted USA Today/Hockey Poll let me know. I hope all my changes are correct.

This weeks USA Today/Hockey Poll:

Week 4: Women's College Hockey Poll

Women's Poll - Week 4: Oct. 16, 2012
 	Team  Points (First) Record Last Poll  
1  	Minnesota   190 (19)  6-0-0  1
2  	Cornell	    170       0-0-0  2
3  	Boston Uni  150       3-0-0 T-3
4  	Boston Col  118       0-1-0  5
5  	Clarkson     88       4-0-0  7
6  	Wisconsin    64       3-2-1 T-3
7  	Ohio State   62       5-1-0 10
8  	Mercyhurst   61       5-0-1  9
9  	Northeastern 58       4-0-0  8
10	North Dakota 35       2-2-0  6

Others receiving votes: Minnesota Duluth, 33; Harvard, 16.

This weeks:

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
October 22, 2012
	Team	(First Place Votes)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Boston College	(27)	        2- 1-0	962	3
2	Minnesota	(12)	        3- 1-0	908	1
3	Miami	        (4)             3- 0-1	831	4
4	North Dakota	( 1)	        1- 1-0	828	2
5	Denver	        ( 3)	        2- 0-0	800	7
6	Michigan		        2- 1-0	769	5
7	Cornell	        ( 1)	        0- 0-0	666	6
8	Union	        ( 1)	        2- 1-0	635	8
9	Notre Dame		        3- 1-0	587	9
10	Western Michigan		3- 1-0	519	12
11	Massachusetts-Lowell		1- 1-1	473	10
12	New Hampshire	( 1)	        3- 0-0	466	15
13	Boston University		1- 1-0	357	11
14	Minnesota-Duluth		2- 2-0	331	13
15	Northeastern		        2- 1-0	267	14
16	Northern Michigan		3- 1-0	210	17
17	Harvard		                0- 0-0	185	17
18	Ferris State		        1- 1-2	178	16
19	Colorado College		3- 1-0	147	19
20	Quinnipiac		        3- 1-1	116	20
Others receiving votes: St. Lawrence 109, Minnesota State 39, Nebraska-Omaha 28, Michigan Tech 16, 
St. Cloud State 12, Wisconsin 10, Lake Superior 9, Providence 8, Rensselaer 7, Michigan State 5,
 Merrimack 4, Air Force 3, Alaska 3, Ohio State 3, Yale 3, Alaska-Anchorage 2, Massachusetts 2, Holy Cross 1.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

Look at all the stupid first place voters.

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
October 22, 2012
	Team	(First Place Votes)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Minnesota	(15)	        8- 0-0	150	1
2	Cornell		                1- 1-0	131	2
3	Boston University		5- 1-0	119	3
4	Clarkson		        5- 1-0	103	5
5	Mercyhurst		        6- 1-1	82	7
6	Boston College		        1- 2-0	70	4
7	Northeastern		        4- 1-0	50	8
8	North Dakota		        4- 2-0	44	10
9	Harvard		                0- 0-0	33	NR
10	Minnesota State		        4- 2-2	15	NR
Others receiving votes: Ohio State 14, Wisconsin 7, Dartmouth 4, Minnesota-Duluth 1,
 Providence 1, St. Lawrence 1.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

Week 3: USA Men's College Hockey Poll 

Men's Poll - Week 3: October 22, 2012 
 	Team  	       Points(First)  Record Last Poll  
1  	Boston College	477 (18)      2-1-0   3
2  	Minnesota       461 (11)      3-1-0   1
3  	Miami	        405 (3)       3-0-1   4
4  	North Dakota	387           1-1-0   2
5  	Denver	        358 (1)       2-0-0   8
6  	Michigan	347           2-1-0   6
7  	Cornell	        269           0-0-0   5
8  	Union College	260 (1)       2-1-0   7
9  	Notre Dame	226           3-1-0  10
10 	Western Michigan176           3-1-0  12
10  	New Hampshire	176           3-0-0  NR
12 	UMass Lowell	165           1-1-1   9
13 	Boston University89           1-1-0  11
14 	Minnesota Duluth 77           2-2-0  13
15 	Northern Michigan56           3-1-0  15
Others receiving votes:Colorado College, 35; Harvard University, 32; 
St. Lawrence University, 27; Northeastern University, 13; University of Nebraska-Omaha, 12; 
Quinnipiac University, 12; Ferris State University, 8; Minnesota State University, 2; 
United States Air Force Academy, 1.

Week 5: Women's College Hockey Poll- USA

Women's Poll - Week 5: Oct. 23, 2012 
 	Team  	Points (First) Record Last Poll  
1  	Minnesota  190 (19)    8-0-0  1
2  	Cornell	   165         1-1-0  2
3  	Boston U   152         5-1-0  3
4  	Clarkson   132         5-1-0  5
5  	Mercyhurst 102         6-1-1  8
6  	Boston C    80         1-2-0  4
7  	Northeastern60         4-1-0  9
8  	North Dakota53         4-2-0 10
9  	Harvard	    51         0-0-0 NR
10 	Ohio State  24         5-3-0  7
Others receiving votes: Wisconsin, 20; Minnesota State, 13;
 Bemidji State, 1; Minnesota Duluth, 1; Providence College, 1.

That first place vote is Cornell's first since 12/7/2009. It is the first pre-season first place vote in seven seasons.

Trotsky
That first place vote is Cornell's first since 12/7/2009.

And further confirms how silly the polls are.

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Trotsky
That first place vote is Cornell's first since 12/7/2009.

And further confirms how silly the polls are.

And I'll go back to my thought that polls shouldn't start until at least 1/3 of the season is over. It's too hard to displace teams starting highly ranked. If the poll was starting today, do you think SLU might be higher ranked than Harvard?

Jordan 04

Trotsky
That first place vote is Cornell's first since 12/7/2009.

And further confirms how silly the polls are.<br style='clear:left' />

Not as silly as the PWR.

ursusminor

Jordan 04

Trotsky
That first place vote is Cornell's first since 12/7/2009.

And further confirms how silly the polls are.<br style='clear:left' />

Not as silly as the PWR.

But PWR usually seems to help the conference and Cornell, so it's all good.

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ursusminor

Jordan 04

Trotsky
That first place vote is Cornell's first since 12/7/2009.

And further confirms how silly the polls are.<br style='clear:left' />

Not as silly as the PWR.

But PWR usually seems to help the conference and Cornell, so it's all good.

Except when you don't have any games, then I like the polls better.

This weeks Women's USA poll is up.

Jim Hyla
And I'll go back to my thought that polls shouldn't start until at least 1/3 of the season is over. It's too hard to displace teams starting highly ranked.

It's far more forgivable now that the polls have no influence on the selection process. In college football it really is a traveshamockery.

So far this is it.

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
October 29, 2012
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Boston College	(38)	4- 1-0	981	1
2	Minnesota	( 3)	4- 1-0	924	2
3	Denver	        ( 6)	4- 0-0	862	5
4	Miami		        4- 1-1	792	3
5	North Dakota		2- 1-1	769	4
6	Cornell		        2- 0-0	739	7
7	Notre Dame		5- 1-0	677	9
8	Michigan		3- 2-0	663	6
9	New Hampshire	( 2)	4- 0-1	597	12
10	Union	        ( 1)	3- 1-1	596	8
11	Western Michigan	3- 1-0	529	10
12	Boston University	3- 1-0	487	13
13	Harvard		        1- 0-0	291	17
14	Massachusetts-Lowell	1- 3-1	239	11
15	Northeastern		2- 2-1	227	15
16	St. Lawrence		3- 1-0	180	NR
17	Minnesota-Duluth	2- 3-1	172	14
18	St. Cloud State		4- 2-0	162	NR
19	Ferris State		2- 2-2	146	18
20	Northern Michigan	3- 3-0	131	16
Others receiving votes: Providence 66, Colorado College 53, Quinnipiac 45, Wisconsin 44, 
Yale 27, Holy Cross 23, Alaska 16, Dartmouth 15, Bemidji State 12, Lake Superior 7, Ohio State 5, 
Michigan State 4, Michigan Tech 3, Nebraska-Omaha 3, Colgate 1.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

Who is this Union guy?

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine 2012-13 Men’s College Hockey Poll

(First-place votes in parentheses)
   School      Points (First) Prior Record Weeks in Top 15
1 Boston College  504 (28)     1    4-1-0     5
2 Minnesota       459          2    4-1-0     5
3 Denver          417 (5)      5    4-0-0     5
4 Miami           389          3    4-1-1     5
5 Cornell         355          7    2-0-0     5
6 North Dakota    345          4    2-1-1     5
7 Michigan        300          6    3-2-0     5
8 Notre Dame      277          9    5-1-0     5
9 Union           240 (1)      8    3-1-1     5
10 New Hampshire  204         11    4-0-1     2
11 West Michigan  194         10    3-1-0     5
12 Boston Univ    144         13    3-1-0     5
13 Harvard         77         NR    1-0-0     1
14 UMass Lowell    60         12    1-3-1     5
15 St. Lawrence    31         NR    3-1-0     1
Others receiving votes: Northeastern, 23; Minnesota Duluth, 21; Ferris State, 19; 
St. Cloud State, 13; Northern Michigan, 3; Providence, 3; Quinnipiac, 1; Wisconsin, 1.

There's Union again???

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
October 29, 2012
	Team	       (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Minnesota	(15)   10- 0-0	150	1
2	Cornell		        4- 1-0	129	2
3	Boston University	7- 1-0	119	3
4	Clarkson		7- 1-0	105	4
5	Mercyhurst		8- 1-1	92	5
6	Harvard		        2- 0-0	54	9
7	Northeastern		5- 1-1	53	7
8	Boston College		2- 3-0	45	6
9	North Dakota		4- 4-0	33	8
10	Ohio State		7- 3-0	20	NR
Others receiving votes: Wisconsin 12, Minnesota-Duluth 11, Providence 1, St. Lawrence 1.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

Week 6:USA Women's College Hockey Poll

Women's Poll - Week 6: October 30, 2012 
       Team  Points (First) Record  Last Poll  
1  Minnesota    190 (19)    10-0-0  1  
2  Cornell      160          4-1-0  2 
3  Boston U     154          7-1-0  3 
4  Clarkson	134          7-1-0  4 
5  Mercyhurst	114          8-1-1  5 
6  Harvard	 90          2-0-0  9 
7  Northeastern	 71          5-1-1  7 
8  Boston Coll   57          2-3-0  6 
9  North Dakota	 33          4-4-0  8 
10 Ohio State	 30          7-3-0 10 
Others receiving votes: Minnesota Duluth, 5; Quinnipiac, 4;
 Dartmouth, 1; Providence, 1; Wisconsin, 1.

That's it for this week.

Jim Hyla
Who is this Union guy?

Ken Schott, of course.

CowbellGuy

Jim Hyla
Who is this Union guy?

Ken Schott, of course.

If he's being honest, then not really. He always posts his poll choices and is generally quite reasonable.

Jim Hyla

CowbellGuy

Jim Hyla
Who is this Union guy?

Ken Schott, of course.

If he's being honest, then not really. He always posts his poll choices and is generally quite reasonable.

Does Ed Weaver from the Troy Record vote?

All 4 polls now up.

What's the direct link to the USA Today poll? (Old one doesn't work and searching seems to yield... nuttin.)

Not a poll, but:

Cornell is our Team of the Week. However, power issues may prevent an article. Stay tuned. collegehockeynews.com/reports/td=18

— College Hockey News (@chnews) October 30, 2012

Last week was St. Lawrence. Article isn't up yet, as the tweet says.

Trotsky
What's the direct link to the USA Today poll? (Old one doesn't work and searching seems to yield... nuttin.)

After a lot of searching, I found this:

Women's: http://www.usahockey.com/College/WomensPollWeek6.aspx

Men's: http://www.usahockey.com/College/MensPollWeek4.aspx

Each week I just change the week number to get the new one. Men's is out on Monday and Women's on Tuesday. It took a lot of searching as the links on USCHO didn't work for me, and there's not an easy link on the USA Hockey site.

Trotsky
What's the direct link to the USA Today poll? (Old one doesn't work and searching seems to yield... nuttin.)

I'll keep trying to post these links. I keep getting rejected as the server thinks I'm an automated bot.

USA Women - Comes out on Tuesday.

USA Men - Comes out on Monday.

You'll see on the link week_ , just change the week number to what you want to get that week. Current is week4 for men and week6 for women.

I finally got it posted. The problem I was having was in trying to have the description on the link be the same as the url. That way you could easily see how to change the week. I guess I'm better off not being an automatted bot.

USCHO Men's has us at 4. Union still gets a first place vote????

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
November 05, 2012
	Team	     (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Boston College	(48)	6- 1-0	998	1
2	Minnesota		5- 2-0	896	2
3	Denver	        ( 1)	5- 1-0	878	3
4	Cornell		        3- 0-1	790	6
5	Miami		        5- 2-1	765	4
6	North Dakota		3- 2-1	749	5
7	Notre Dame		6- 2-0	702	7
8	Union	        ( 1)	5- 1-1	661	10
9	New Hampshire		5- 1-1	625	9
10	Western Michigan	4- 2-0	532	11
11	Boston University	4- 2-0	513	12
12	Michigan		3- 3-1	480	8
13	St. Lawrence		5- 1-0	300	16
14	Harvard		        2- 1-0	257	13
15	St. Cloud State		5- 3-0	256	18
16	Northern Michigan	4- 3-1	217	20
17	Massachusetts-Lowell	1- 3-1	169	14
18	Ferris State		3- 3-2	163	19
19	Colorado College	5- 3-0	143	NR
20	Minnesota-Duluth	2- 3-1	120	17
Others receiving votes: Dartmouth 102, Providence 35, Northeastern 28, Yale 24, 
Nebraska-Omaha 23, Merrimack 21, Quinnipiac 15, Holy Cross 9, Alaska 7, Bemidji State 7, 
Ohio State 4, Minnesota State 3, Niagara 3, Lake Superior 2, Massachusetts 2, Colgate 1.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

Week 5: USA Men's College Hockey Poll

Men's Poll - Week 5: November 5, 2012   
 	Team  	Points (First)  Record  Last  
1  Boston College  509 (33)     6-1-0   1  
2  Minnesota	   455          5-2-0   2  
3  Denver	   421          5-1-0   3 
4  Cornell	   372          3-0-1   5  
5  Miami	   361          5-2-1   4  
6  North Dakota	   351          3-2-1   6  
7  Union College   297 (1)      5-1-1   9  
8  Notre Dame	   294          6-2-0   8  
9  New Hampshire   238          5-1-1  10 
10 Western Mich    200          4-0-1  11  
11 Michigan	   180          3-3-1   7  
12 Boston Univ     178          4-2-0  12  
13 Harvard	    67          2-1-0  13  
14 St. Lawrence	    52          5-1-0  15  
15 UMass Lowell	    36          1-3-1  14 
Others receiving votes: St. Cloud State University, 19; Northern Michigan University, 15; 
Ferris State University, 14; Dartmouth College, 9; University of Minnesota Duluth, 6; 
Colorado College, 4; Providence College, 1; Quinnipiac University, 1.

USCHO have the women at 2.

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
November 05, 2012
	Team	     (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Minnesota	(15)	12- 0-0	150	1
2	Cornell		         6- 1-0	134	2
3	Clarkson		 8- 2-0	109	4
4	Mercyhurst		10- 1-1	95	5
5	Boston University 	 7- 2-1	87	3
6	Harvard		         4- 0-0	78	6
7	Boston College		 3- 3-1	63	8
8	Northeastern		 7- 1-1	50	7
9	Ohio State		 9- 3-0	25     10
10	North Dakota		 5- 5-0	20	9
Others receiving votes: Wisconsin 9, New Hampshire 2, Providence 2, St. Lawrence 1.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

USA Week 7: Women's College Hockey Poll

Women's Poll - Week 7: Nov. 7, 2012 
   Team     Points (First) Record Last  
1  Minnesota    190 (19)    12-0-0  1
2  Cornell      170          6-1-0  2
3  Clarkson	138          8-2-0  4
4  Mercyhurst	123         10-1-1  5
5  Boston Univ	120          7-2-1  3
6  Harvard	100          4-0-0  6
7  Boston Coll   75          3-3-1  8
8  Northeastern	 63          7-1-1  7
9  Ohio State	 28          9-3-0 10
10 North Dakota	 25          5-5-0  9

Others receiving votes: Wisconsin, 7; Minnesota Duluth, 5; Providence, 1.

Jim Hyla
USCHO Men's has us at 4. Union still gets a first place vote????

In their defense, they didn't do anything last weekend to lose it.

I wonder if Dartmouth is the first team in history to be #1 in PWR and not appear in the top 20.

4 ECAC teams in the top 14? That would be nice, but I sincerely doubt it...

USA Men's, we're 4, and USCHO Women's, we're 2, are now posted above. USA Women's probably tomorrow.

That's it. I'm now on a mission to punch two voters in the throat.

RichH
That's it. I'm now on a mission to punch two voters in the throat.

Go for it; just let the rest of us know who they are first. Maybe we can give you some cover.

Robb
4 ECAC teams in the top 14? That would be nice, but I sincerely doubt it...

Why not? I hear that if the season ended today Dartmouth would get a #1 seed.

USA Women's Poll posted, we're still 2.

Jim Hyla
USA Women's Poll posted, we're still 2.

It's interesting to note that teams 2-8 are all Eastern teams in the current polls. I don't remember a year since the NCAA Tournament started in 2000 where there's only one beast coming out of the WCHA. If the usual WCHA powers like UW, UMD, and UND are having down years, it could be a really entertaining season leading up to competitive and resurgent ECAC and HEA tournaments.

men drop to 10 on USCHO

RichH
That's it. I'm now on a mission to punch two voters in the throat.

Union lost its #1 vote this week. Finally

Women still 2. I'm at a meeting, will post polls later.

10? Generous, after last weekend.

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
November 12, 2012
	Team	       (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Boston College	(50)	8- 1-0	1000	1
2	Denver		        7- 1-0	934	3
3	Minnesota		6- 2-1	890	2
4	Miami		        6- 2-2	817	5
5	New Hampshire		6- 1-1	734	9
6	North Dakota		4- 3-1	696	6
7	Union		        6- 2-1	665	8
8	Notre Dame		6- 3-0	646	7
9	Western Michigan	5- 2-1	605    10
10	Cornell		        3- 2-1	525	4
11	Boston University	5- 3-0	514    11
12	Dartmouth		5- 0-1	385    NR
13	Michigan		4- 4-1	362    12
14	Colorado College	7- 3-0	343    19
15	St. Cloud State		6- 4-0	327    15
16	St. Lawrence		5- 2-1	228    13
17	Harvard		        3- 2-0	211    14
18	Nebraska-Omaha		6- 3-1	149    NR
19	Northern Michigan	4- 4-2	130    16
20	Ferris State		4- 4-2	85     18

Others receiving votes: Massachusetts-Lowell 64, Alaska 36, Niagara 33, Yale 24, 
Holy Cross 22, Quinnipiac 22, Ohio State 12, Providence 12, Massachusetts 7, Lake Superior 5, 
Northeastern 5, Minnesota-Duluth 4, Merrimack 3, Michigan State 2, Minnesota State 1, Princeton 1.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

USA Week 6: Men's College Hockey Poll

Men's Poll - Week 6: November 12, 2012 
    Team         Points (First) 2011-12 Last
1  Boston College   510 (34)     8-1-0   1 
2  Denver	    461          7-1-0   3 
3  Minnesota	    441          6-2-1   2 
4  Miami            402          6-2-2   5 
5  North Dakota	    317          4-3-1   6 
6  New Hampshire    307          6-1-1   9 
7  Notre Dame	    280          6-3-0   8 
8  Union College    275          6-2-1   7
9  Western Michigan 244          5-2-1  10
10 Cornell	    192          3-2-1   4
11 Boston Univer    172          5-3-0  12 
12 Dartmouth	    127          5-0-1  NR
13 Michigan	    126          4-4-1  11
14 Colorado College  65          7-3-0  NR  
15 St. Cloud State   58          6-3-0  NR  
Others receiving votes:Harvard University, 41; St. Lawrence University, 34; 
University of Nebraska-Omaha, 12; Northern Michigan University, 7; College of the Holy Cross, 3; 
UMass-Lowell, 3; Ferris State University, 1; Niagara University, 1; Yale University, 1.

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
November 12, 2012
	Team	       (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Minnesota	(15)	12- 0-0	150	1
2	Cornell		         6- 1-0	134	2
3	Clarkson		10- 2-0	114	3
4	Mercyhurst		10- 1-1	103	4
5	Boston College		 4- 3-1	 70	7
6	Harvard		         4- 0-0	 69	6
7	Boston University        7- 3-1	 58	5
8	Ohio State		 9- 3-0	 46	9
9	Northeastern		 8- 1-2	 45	8
10	North Dakota		 5- 5-0	 20	10
Others receiving votes: Wisconsin 14, New Hampshire 1, Providence 1.


Read more: [www.uscho.com]

USA Week 8: Women's College Hockey Poll

Women's Poll - Week 8: Nov. 13, 2012 
 	Team Points (First)  2012-13 Last  
1  Minnesota	190 (19)     12-0-0   1  
2  Cornell	169           6-1-0   2  
3  Clarkson	148          10-2-0   3  
4  Mercyhurst	122          10-1-1   4  
5  Harvard	120           4-0-0   6  
6  Boston Coll  100           4-3-2   7  
7  Boston Univ   75           7-3-1   5  
8  Northeastern	 51           8-1-2   8 
9  Ohio State	 42           9-3-0   9 
10 North Dakota	 26           5-5-0  10  
Others receiving votes: Wisconsin, 7; Minnesota Duluth, 5; 
Dartmouth, 2; St. Lawrence, 2; Providence, 1.

Interesting to note that on the men's side that of the top 20 teams 7 of them are on our schedule and on the women's side of the top 10 teams Cornell will play 5 of them. In each teams case a very strong strength of schedule which should bode well come playoff time and NCAA seeding.

Cop at Lynah
Interesting to note that on the men's side that of the top 20 teams 7 of them are on our schedule and on the women's side of the top 10 teams Cornell will play 5 of them. In each teams case a very strong strength of schedule which should bode well come playoff time and NCAA seeding.

Isn't it eight?

The four ECAC teams, Denver, Michigan, Colorado, and Ferris State?

andyw2100

Cop at Lynah
Interesting to note that on the men's side that of the top 20 teams 7 of them are on our schedule and on the women's side of the top 10 teams Cornell will play 5 of them. In each teams case a very strong strength of schedule which should bode well come playoff time and NCAA seeding.

Isn't it eight?

The four ECAC teams, Denver, Michigan, Colorado, and Ferris State?

Not only is it 8, but they account for 14 of our 29 RS games. Not bad.

Trotsky

andyw2100

Cop at Lynah
Interesting to note that on the men's side that of the top 20 teams 7 of them are on our schedule and on the women's side of the top 10 teams Cornell will play 5 of them. In each teams case a very strong strength of schedule which should bode well come playoff time and NCAA seeding.

Isn't it eight?

The four ECAC teams, Denver, Michigan, Colorado, and Ferris State?

Not only is it 8, but they account for 14 of our 29 RS games. Not bad.

That seems mainly a product of the relatively high ranking of the ECAC so far. FWIW, 17 of RPI's 34 are on the list, a slightly higher percentage. (10 ECAC games, 2*FSU, 2*SCSU, BU, UNH, and an OOC game vs. Union).

USA Polls up, not that it matters.

Hard to believe, but still ranked well.

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
November 19, 2012
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Boston College	(47)	9- 1-0	996	1
2	Denver	        ( 2)	9- 1-0	948	2
3	New Hampshire	( 1)	8- 1-1	865	5
4	Minnesota		7- 2-2	853	3
5	Miami		        7- 2-3	781	4
6	Notre Dame		8- 3-0	731	8
7	North Dakota		5- 3-2	705	6
8	Union		        6- 2-1	664	7
9	Western Michigan	6- 3-1	543	9
10	Boston University	6- 4-0	536	11
11	Dartmouth		5- 1-2	462	12
12	St. Cloud State		6- 4-0	377	15
13	Cornell		        3- 3-2	322	10
14	Colorado College	7- 5-0	287	14
15	Nebraska-Omaha		6- 3-1	260	18
16	Ferris State		6- 4-2	211	20
17	Harvard		        4- 3-0	201	17
18	Quinnipiac		7- 3-1	187	NR
19	Michigan		4- 6-1	160	13
20	Niagara		        8- 2-3	112	NR
Others receiving votes: Alaska 79, Yale 66, St. Lawrence 57, Holy Cross 34, 
Providence 23, Massachusetts-Lowell 14, Northern Michigan 12, Ohio State 9, 
Northeastern 2, Colgate 1, Merrimack 1, Minnesota State 1.



Read more: [www.uscho.com]

USA Men's Poll - Week 7: November 19, 2012 
 	Team  	        Points (First)  Record  Last Poll  
1  	Boston College     509 (33)      9-1-1   1  
2  	Denver	           475 (1)       9-1-0   2 
3  	New Hampshire	   420           8-1-1   6 
4  	Minnesota	   405           7-2-2   3 
5  	Miami	           376           6-4-2   4 
6  	Notre Dame	   331           8-3-0   7 
7  	North Dakota	   310           5-3-2   5
8  	Union College	   281           6-2-1   8 
9  	Western Michigan   208           6-3-1   9 
10 	Boston University  201           6-4-0  11 
11  	Dartmouth	   144           5-1-2  12  
12	St. Cloud St.	   100           6-4-0  15 
13 	Cornell	            97           3-3-2  10 
14 	Nebraska-Omaha	    56           7-5-0  NR  
15	Harvard	            41           6-3-1  NR  
Others receiving votes: Colorado College, 28; Quinnipiac University, 28; 
University of Michigan, 21; Ferris State University, 19; Niagara University, 11; 
St. Lawrence University, 6; University of Alaska, 5; Yale University, 4; 
College of the Holy Cross, 3; UMass Lowell, 1.

Women still second.

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
November 19, 2012
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Minnesota	(15)	14- 0-0	150	1
2	Cornell		        8- 1-0	134	2
3	Clarkson		12- 2-0	114	3
4	Mercyhurst		12- 1-1	102	4
5	Boston College		6- 3-2	90	5
6	Boston Univer	        9- 3-1	80	7
7	Harvard		        4- 1-0	51	6
8	Ohio State		10- 4-0	42	8
9	Northeastern		8- 3-2	25	9
10	North Dakota		7- 5-0	20	10
Others receiving votes: Wisconsin 16, Providence 1.


Read more: [www.uscho.com]

USA Women's Poll - Week 9: Nov. 20, 2012 
 	Team   Points (First) Record  Last Poll  
1  Minnesota      190 (19)   14-0-0  1
2  Cornell        170         8-1-0  2
3  Clarkson       149        12-2-0  3
4  Mercyhurst     126        12-1-1  4
5  Boston Uni     106         9-3-1  7
6  Boston College 103         6-3-2  6
7  Harvard	   77         4-1-0  5
8  Ohio State	   52        10-4-0  9
9  Northeastern	   30         8-3-2  8
10 North Dakota	   26         7-5-0 10
Others receiving votes: Wisconsin, 11; Minnesota-Duluth, 3; Dartmouth, 2.

Jim Hyla
Hard to believe, but still ranked well.

I wouldn't say hard to believe. I'd say "typical" / "jerk" / etc...

The Central Limit Theorem killed Joe Morgan a long time ago.

So is Michigan bad?

Jordan 04
So is Michigan bad?

Since the start of the season, we've dropped from 4th to 13th, not having a win in our last 5 games, but who'd have thought that despite this we'd be ranked 6 places higher than Michigan going into MSG.

Michigan has lost three in a row (after splitting a series with MSU, & two losses @ Yost to ND) but plays Bowling Green on Wednesday.

Since Trotsky mentioned the CLT, how does the law of averages apply here?

In any case, Saturday's game is going to be huge for both teams.

Michigan is not bad.............they always have a lot of speed and talent. They haven't come together yet, they have a young roster and the goaltending doesn't seem as good as normal (two freshman goalies but we all know that they usually have very good goalie recruits - I think they lost their top goalie recruit to the juniors this year). Their performance versus RIT and Northern Michigan is disappointing but otherwise I think their record is understandable although they can't be very happy with where they're at.

Should be a decent game with two teams who have a lot to prove after disappointing starts.

Michigan is not bad.............they always have a lot of speed and talent. They haven't come together yet, they have a young roster and the goaltending doesn't seem as good as normal (two freshman goalies but we all know that they usually have very good goalie recruits - I think they lost their top goalie recruit to the juniors this year). Their performance versus RIT and Northern Michigan is disappointing but otherwise I think their record is understandable although they can't be very happy with where they're at.

Should be a decent game with two teams who have a lot to prove after disappointing starts.

RatushnyFan
I think they lost their top goalie recruit to the juniors this year

This happened twice in recent years, but not this year. Jared Rutledge was their main recruit that they touted as their likely starter, but Steve Racine has delivered both better results and better numbers. A lot of Michigan fans and coaching staff saw the writing on the wall regarding Rutledge's overrating when Michigan lost its season-opening game to RIT at Yost.

USA Men's up. We're 13.

Swampy
In any case, Saturday's game is going to be huge for both teams.

Winning would put Cornell in a weird position, pairwise-wise. The NC results will buoy then while the conference result will hurt them. The opposite of prior years.

Trotsky

Swampy
In any case, Saturday's game is going to be huge for both teams.

Winning would put Cornell in a weird position, pairwise-wise. The NC results will buoy then while the conference result will hurt them. The opposite of prior years.

Winning solves everything.At least with the conference we have a chance to recoup ourselves. The losses in conf aren't as critical as out of conf, where you can't as easily make up for your mistakes, no?

USA Women's now up.

USCHO has us up one to 12.

Michigan drops off and Yale debuts at 15.

#12 in USA Hockey as well.

OK, OK so I had to see a patient in the hospital and didn't get it posted right away. Here's what's up so far.

Women drop to third. USA Women's out tomorrow.

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
November 26, 2012
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Boston College	(49)	10- 1-0	999	1
2	New Hampshire	( 1)	9- 1-2	936	3
3	Minnesota		9- 2-2	880	4
4	Miami		        7- 2-3	794	5
5	Denver		        9- 3-0	786	2
6	Notre Dame		9- 4-0	737	6
7	North Dakota		6- 4-2	696	7
8	Union		        8- 2-1	687	8
9	Boston University	7- 4-0	565	10
10	Western Michigan	6- 3-1	532	9
11	Dartmouth		5- 2-2	448	11
12	Cornell		        4- 3-2	371	13
13	Nebraska-Omaha		8- 3-1	366	15
14	St. Cloud State		7- 5-0	347	12
15	Yale		        5- 2-1	291	NR
16	Quinnipiac		8- 3-2	226	18
17	Ferris State		6- 4-2	205	16
18	Colorado College	7- 6-1	194	14
19	Harvard		        4- 3-0	193	17
20	Niagara		        8- 2-3	134	20

Others receiving votes: Providence 23, Michigan 22, Alaska 19, St. Lawrence 18, 
Holy Cross 15, Northern Michigan 4, Ohio State 4, Massachusetts 3, 
Minnesota State 2, Northeastern 2, Massachusetts-Lowell 1.


Read more: [www.uscho.com]

USA Men's Poll - Week 8: November 26, 2012 
 	Team  	     Points (First)  2012-13  Last  
1  	Boston College	509 (33)      10-1-0   1 
2  	New Hampshire	473 (1)        9-1-2   3 
3  	Minnesota	427            9-2-2   4  
4  	Miami	        379            7-2-3   5  
5  	Denver	        361            9-3-0   2 
6  	Notre Dame	325            9-4-0   6 
7  	Union College	314            8-2-1   8 
8  	North Dakota	267            6-4-2   7 
9  	Boston Univer   223            7-4-0  10 
10 	Western Michigan193            6-3-1   9 
11  	Dartmouth	157            5-2-2  11 
12 	Cornell	        115            4-3-2  13 
13 	Yale	         87            5-2-1  NR 
14 	Nebraska-Omaha	 79            8-3-1  14 
15	St. Cloud State	 54            7-5-0  12 

Others receiving votes: Quinnipiac University, 40; Harvard University, 33; 
Colorado College, 13; Ferris State University, 12; Niagara University, 12; 
St. Lawrence University, 4; Providence College, 2; University of Michigan, 1.

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
November 26, 2012
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Minnesota	(15)	16- 0-0	150	1
2	Clarkson		12- 2-0	121	3
3	Cornell		         9- 2-0	108	2
4	Mercyhurst		12- 1-1	 96	4
5	Boston College		 8- 3-2	 90	5
6	Harvard		         6- 1-0	 76	7
7	Boston University	 9- 3-1	 75	6
8	North Dakota		 9- 5-0	 34	10
9	Northeastern		 8- 3-2	 32	9
10	Wisconsin		10- 4-2	 29	NR
Others receiving votes: Ohio State 12, Providence 1, St. Lawrence 1.


Read more: [www.uscho.com]

USA Women's Poll - Week 10: Nov. 27, 2012
 	Team  	Points (First)  2012-13  Last  
1  	Minnesota   190 (19)     16-0-0  1  
2  	Clarkson    164          12-2-0  3 
3  	Cornell	    142           9-2-0  2 
4  	Mercyhurst  124          12-1-1  4  
5  	Harvard	    113           6-1-0  7 
6  	Boston Coll 101           8-3-2  6 
7  	Boston Univ  90           9-3-1  5 
8  	North Dakota 42           9-5-0 10 
9  	Northeastern 39           8-3-2  9 
10 	Ohio State   22          11-5-0  8 

Others receiving votes: Wisconsin, 18.

Women third in USA poll as well.

USCHO has UHN taking over first, I don't know that I agree, and we're 11.

   USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
December 03, 2012
	Team	(First Place Votes)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	New Hampshire	(31)	11- 1-2	977	2
2	Boston College	(19)	11- 2-0	965	1
3	Miami		         9- 2-3	883	4
4	Minnesota		10- 3-2	806	3
5	Notre Dame		11- 4-0	791	6
6	Denver		         9- 4-1	674	5
7	Boston University	 8- 5-0	644	9
7	Western Michigan	 8- 3-1	644	10
9	North Dakota		 7- 5-2	636	7
10	Dartmouth		 6- 2-2	459	11
11	Cornell		         6- 3-2	453	12
12	Union		         8- 3-2	433	8
13	Quinnipiac		10- 3-2	418	16
14	Nebraska-Omaha		 9- 4-1	411	13
15	Yale		         6- 2-1	316	15
16	Ferris State		 7- 4-3	254	17
17	St. Cloud State		 8- 6-0	224	14
18	Niagara		        10- 2-3	155	20
19	Colorado College	 8- 7-1	145	18
20	Harvard		         4- 3-0	123	19
Others receiving votes: Ohio State 59, Providence 15, Alaska 5, Michigan 3, 
Minnesota State 2, St. Lawrence 2, Colgate 1, Holy Cross 1, Massachusetts 1.


Read more: [www.uscho.com]

USA agrees with UHN and we're 13.

Men's Poll - Week 9: December 3, 2012 
 	Team  	Points (First)  2012-13  Last Poll  
1  New Hampshire    496 (24)     11-1-2   2 
2  Boston College   487 (10)     11-2-0   1 
3  Miami	    432           9-2-3   4 
4  Notre Dame	    390          11-4-0   6 
5  Minnesota	    365          10-3-2   3
6  Denver	    283           9-4-1   5 
7  Boston University268           8-5-0   9 
8  Western Michigan 258           8-3-1  10 
9  North Dakota	    233           7-5-2   8 
10 Dartmouth	    173           6-2-2  11 
11 Quinnipiac	    146          10-3-2  NR 
12 Union College    140           8-3-2   7 
13 Cornell	    129           6-3-2  12 
14 Nebraska-Omaha   117           9-4-1  14 
15 Yale	            106           6-2-1  13 
Others receiving votes: Ferris State University, 30; 
St. Cloud State University, 10, Niagara University, 9, 
Colorado College, 4; Harvard University, 3; Ohio State University, 1.

USCHO have our Women at 3.

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
December 03, 2012
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Minnesota	(15)	18- 0-0	150	1
2	Clarkson		13- 3-0	110	2
3	Cornell		        10- 3-0	105	3
4	Mercyhurst		14- 1-1	97	4
5	Harvard		         8- 1-0	93	6
6	Boston College		10- 3-2	90	5
7	Boston University	11- 3-1	76	7
8	North Dakota		11- 5-0	47	8
9	Wisconsin		10- 6-2	27	10
10	Northeastern		 9- 5-2	18	9
Others receiving votes: Ohio State 12.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

USA Women's Poll - Week 11: Dec. 4, 2012 
    Team    Points(First)  Record  Last  
1 Minnesota   190 (19)     18-0-0  1  
2 Clarkson    147          13-3-0  2  
3 Cornell     144          10-3-0  3  
4 Harvard     134           8-1-0  5 
5 Mercyhurst  118          14-1-1  4 
6 Boston Coll  99          10-3-2  6  
7 Boston Univ  94          11-3-1  7 
8 North Dakota 59          11-5-0  8  
9 Wisconsin    25          10-6-2 NR 
10Northeastern 20           8-3-2  9 
Others receiving votes: Ohio State, 14; New Hampshire, 1.

I'll start Pairwise, as bad as it is this time of year. After-all I have to have something from CHN.
After holiday tourneys it's probably a lot better. Pairwise that is, I'm not sure about CHN.

Men from CHN

Rk	Team	       PCWs	W-L-T	Win %	Rk	RPI	Rk
1	Boston College	25	11-2-0	.846	2	.6463	1
2	New Hampshire	24	11-1-2	.857	1	.6315	2
3	Dartmouth	23	6-2-2	.700	10	.6023	3
4	Yale	        22	6-2-1	.722	8	.5940	4
5	Boston Univer	21	8-5-0	.615	15t	.5750	5
6	Notre Dame	20	11-4-0	.733	5t	.5734	6
7	Miami	        19	9-2-3	.750	4	.5728	7
8	Quinnipiac	18	10-3-2	.733	5t	.5707	8
9	Western Mich	17	8-3-1	.708	9	.5696	9
10	Denver	        16	9-4-1	.679	12t	.5600	10
11	Cornell	        15	6-3-2	.636	14	.5582	11
12	Union	        14	8-3-2	.692	11	.5547	12
13	North Dakota	13	7-5-2	.571	19t	.5531	13
14	Harvard	        12	4-3-0	.571	19t	.5491	14
15	Minnesota	11	10-3-2	.733	5t	.5474	15
16	Niagara	         9	10-2-3	.767	3	.5430	16
17	Nebraska-Omaha	 9	9-4-1	.679	12t	.5329	17
18	Ohio State	 8	7-4-3	.607	17t	.5320	18
19	St. Cloud State	 7	8-6-0	.571	19t	.5283	19
20	Colorado College 6	8-7-1	.531	27	.5272	20
21	St. Lawrence	 5	7-5-2	.571	19t	.5261	21
22	Ferris State	 4	7-4-3	.607	17t	.5207	22
23	Massachusetts	 3	5-6-2	.462	32t	.5195	23
24	Colgate	         3	7-7-2	.500	28t	.5184	24
25	Minnesota State	 1	7-5-2	.571	19t	.5134	25
26	Providence	 0	7-6-1	.536	26	.5039	26

Women from USCHO
Rank	Team	        PWR	W-L-T	Win %	Win % Rank	RPI	RPI Rank	vs. TUC	TUC %
1	Minnesota	11	18-0-0	1.000	1t	.6814	1	8-0-0	1.000
2	Harvard	        10	8-1-0	.8889	4	.6421	2	2-1-0	.6667
3t	Cornell	         8	10-3-0	.7692	6	.6187	3	4-3-0	.5714
3t	Clarkson	 8	13-3-0	.8125	5	.6135	4	5-2-0	.7143
3t	Boston Univer    8	11-3-1	.7667	7	.6132	5	3-2-1	.5833
6	Mercyhurst	 6	14-1-1	.9062	3	.6086	6	1-1-0	.5000
7	Boston College	 5	10-3-2	.7333	8	.6004	7	1-1-2	.5000
8	North Dakota	 4	11-5-0	.6875	10	.5833	8	2-4-0	.3333
9	Ohio State	 3	12-5-1	.6944	9	.5649	9	2-4-0	.3333
10	Dartmouth	 2	4-3-2	.5556	16	.5412	10	0-2-1	.1667
11	Wisconsin	 1	10-6-2	.6111	13	.5358	11	1-3-0	.2500
12	St. Lawrence	 0	8-7-1	.5312	17	.5333	12	0-6-0	.0000

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

Jim Hyla
USCHO has UHN taking over first, I don't know that I agree, and we're 11.

Can we just call them the University of No Hardware instead? It keeps the letters in order and cuts deeper.

I find it interesting that both polls have ECAC teams ranked 10-13 and Yale at 15. It seems rare to me to have 5 ECAC teams in the top 15 (then again I did only graduate in 2011), but they are all sitting there at the bottom. After holiday tournaments everyone should have a better feeling who is really contending and maybe one or two ECAC teams can rise a bit higher.

snert1288
I find it interesting that both polls have ECAC teams ranked 10-13 and Yale at 15. It seems rare to me to have 5 ECAC teams in the top 15 (then again I did only graduate in 2011), but they are all sitting there at the bottom. After holiday tournaments everyone should have a better feeling who is really contending and maybe one or two ECAC teams can rise a bit higher.

It is quite rare. There have been times when there has been a bubble of ECAC in the 9-16 slots, but it has always shaken out by March, leaving us with at most three representatives.

If the NCAA tournament started today, by PWR the ECAC would have 6 teams in. That's... ridiculous. The prior ten seasons have yielded a total of 22 appearances (Cornell 6, Harvard 4, Yale 3, everybody else 9), with the most in any field being 3 (2005, 2009, 2011).

Trotsky
If the NCAA tournament started today, by PWR the ECAC would have 6 teams in. That's... ridiculous. The prior ten seasons have yielded a total of 22 appearances (Cornell 6, Harvard 4, Yale 3, everybody else 9), with the most in any field being 3 (2005, 2009, 2011).

Of course, we'll see what shakes out after the holiday tournies, but, well, there are five ECAC teams in the top 15 (there will be one AHA representative) of KRACH too...

So maybe, just maybe, the ECAC is strong* this year? I, for one, would welcome a legitimate return to "big 4" status.

* (Or the other leagues are unusually and coherently weak.)

Trotsky

snert1288
I find it interesting that both polls have ECAC teams ranked 10-13 and Yale at 15. It seems rare to me to have 5 ECAC teams in the top 15 (then again I did only graduate in 2011), but they are all sitting there at the bottom. After holiday tournaments everyone should have a better feeling who is really contending and maybe one or two ECAC teams can rise a bit higher.

It is quite rare. There have been times when there has been a bubble of ECAC in the 9-16 slots, but it has always shaken out by March, leaving us with at most three representatives.

If the NCAA tournament started today, by PWR the ECAC would have 6 teams in. That's... ridiculous. The prior ten seasons have yielded a total of 22 appearances (Cornell 6, Harvard 4, Yale 3, everybody else 9), with the most in any field being 3 (2005, 2009, 2011).

If, and it is a big if, the ECAC continues to perform well out of conference, they will get more than three representatives. Six is very unlikely since the league will beat each other in conference. That's what has typical happened to the WCHA when they have had even more than six projected as in the tourney at this time of year.

Scersk '97

Trotsky
If the NCAA tournament started today, by PWR the ECAC would have 6 teams in. That's... ridiculous. The prior ten seasons have yielded a total of 22 appearances (Cornell 6, Harvard 4, Yale 3, everybody else 9), with the most in any field being 3 (2005, 2009, 2011).

Of course, we'll see what shakes out after the holiday tournies, but, well, there are five ECAC teams in the top 15 (there will be one AHA representative) of KRACH too...

So maybe, just maybe, the ECAC is strong* this year? I, for one, would welcome a legitimate return to "big 4" status.

* (Or the other leagues are unusually and coherently weak.)

Well I think last year was the last year in a long time the WCHA will be strong.

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
December 10, 2012

	Team	       (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Boston College	(35)	11- 2-1	981	 2
2	New Hampshire	( 9)	11- 2-2	921	 1
3	Notre Dame	( 3)	13- 4-0	902	 5
4	Minnesota	( 3)	11- 3-3	815	 4
5	Miami		        10- 3-3	775	 3
6	Boston University	10- 5-0	727	 7
7	Western Michigan	10- 3-1	723	 7
8	North Dakota		 8- 5-3	630	 9
9	Quinnipiac		12- 3-2	541     13
10	Dartmouth		 7- 2-2	529	10
11	Denver		         9- 5-2	519	 6
12	Cornell		         6- 3-2	438	11
13	Nebraska-Omaha		10- 5-1	389	14
14	Union		         8- 3-4	385	12
15	Yale		         6- 3-2	246	15
16	Niagara		        10- 2-3	239	18
17	St. Cloud State		 9- 7-0	234	17
18	Harvard		         4- 3-1	126	20
19	Ferris State		 7- 6-3	116	16
20	Minnesota State		 9- 5-2	96	NR
Others receiving votes: Colorado College 63, Colgate 35, Providence 32, Holy Cross 19, Ohio State 14, Robert Morris 5.

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Week 10: USA Men's College Hockey Poll

Men's Poll - Week 10: December 10, 2012 
 	Team  	Points (First) 2012-13 Last Poll  
1  Boston College    496 (22)  11-2-1   2 
2  New Hampshire     472 (9)   11-2-2   1 
3  Notre Dame	     420 (1)   13-4-0   4 
4  Minnesota	     405 (3)   11-3-3   5 
5  Miami	     362       10-3-3   3 
6  Boston University 325       10-5-0   7 
7  Western Michigan  312       10-3-1   8 
8  North Dakota	     259        8-5-3   9 
9  Quinnipiac	     224       12-3-2  11 
10 Denver	     216        9-5-2   6
11 Dartmouth	     212        7-2-2  10 
12 Cornell	     134        6-3-2  13
13 Union College     100        8-3-4  12 
14 Nebraska-Omaha     67       10-5-1  14 
15 Yale	              31        6-3-2  15 
Others receiving votes: Niagara University, 14; St. Cloud State University, 12; 
Harvard University, 9; Providence, 5; Colorado College, 2; 
Minnesota State University, 2; Ferris State University, 1.

Pairwise

	Team	PCWs	W-L-T	Win %	Rk	RPI	Rk
1	Boston College	26	11-2-1	.821	1	.6165	1
2	New Hampshire	25	11-2-2	.800	2	.6082	2
3	Dartmouth	24	7-2-2	.727	8	.5940	3
4	Notre Dame	23	13-4-0	.765	4t	.5849	4
5	Boston Univer	22	10-5-0	.667	10t	.5808	5
6	Quinnipiac	21	12-3-2	.765	4t	.5807	6
7	Western Mich	20	10-3-1	.750	6	.5765	7
8	Yale	        19	6-3-2	.636	14t	.5666	8
9	Cornell	        18	6-3-2	.636	14t	.5608	9
10	Miami	        17	10-3-3	.719	9	.5586	10
11	North Dakota	16	8-5-3	.594	18	.5574	11
12	Minnesota	15	11-3-3	.735	7	.5525	12
13	Union	        14	8-3-4	.667	10t	.5517	13
14	Niagara	        12	10-2-3	.767	3	.5504	14
15	Denver	        12	9-5-2	.625	16t	.5460	15
16	Harvard	        11	4-3-1	.562	20t	.5372	16
17	Colgate	        11	9-7-2	.556	23	.5300	17
18	Nebraska-Omaha	 9	10-5-1	.656	13	.5265	18
19	Ohio State	 7	7-5-4	.562	20t	.5264	19
20	St. Cloud State	 7	9-7-0	.562	20t	.5250	20
21	Minnesota State	 6	9-5-2	.625	16t	.5248	21
22	Colorado College 5	8-8-2	.500	26t	.5180	22
23	Robert Morris	 5	6-4-2	.583	19	.5178	23
24	Holy Cross	 3	9-4-2	.667	10t	.5141	24
25	Ferris State	 2	7-6-3	.531	25	.5068	25
26	St. Lawrence	 1	7-7-2	.500	26t	.5056	26
27	Providence	 0	7-6-2	.533	24	.5038	27

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
December 10, 2012
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Minnesota	(15)	20- 0-0	150	1
2	Clarkson		15- 3-0	127	2
3	Cornell		        10- 3-0	115	3
4	Harvard		         9- 1-1	99	5
5	Boston College		11- 3-2	96	6
6	Boston University	11- 3-3	74	7
7	Mercyhurst		14- 3-1	54	4
8	Wisconsin		12- 6-2	47	9
9	Northeastern		10- 5-2	26     10
10	Ohio State		14- 5-1	17     NR
Others receiving votes: North Dakota 15, Robert Morris 5.

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USA Women's Poll - Week 12: Dec. 11, 2012  
 	Team 	Points(First) Record Last Poll 
1 Minnesota	190 (19)      20-0-0  1 
2 Clarkson	156           15-3-0  2 
3 Cornell	143           10-3-0  3 
4 Harvard	137            9-1-1  4 
5 Boston Coll   115           11-3-2  6 
6 Boston Univer  97           11-3-3  7  
7 Mercyhurst	 76           14-3-1  5  
8 Wisconsin	 54           12-6-2  9  
9 North Dakota	 27           11-7-0  8  
10Northeastern	 25           10-5-2 10  

Others receiving votes: Ohio State, 14; Minnesota Duluth, 4; Robert Morris, 3.

Women’s Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	PWR	W-L-T	Win %	Win % Rank	RPI	RPI Rank	vs. TUC	TUC %
1  Minnesota	11	20-0-0	1.000	1t	.6734	1	6-0-0	1.000
2  Harvard	10	9-1-1	.8636	3	.6274	2	2-1-0	.6667
3t Cornell	8	10-3-0	.7692	6	.6132	3	1-3-0	.2500
3t Clarkson	8	15-3-0	.8333	4	.6123	4	3-2-0	.6000
5t Boston Uni	7	11-3-3	.7353	8	.6049	5	5-2-1	.6875
5t Boston Coll	7	11-3-2	.7500	7	.6035	6	3-1-1	.7000
7  Mercyhurst	5	14-3-1	.8056	5	.5772	7	1-3-0	.2500
8  Ohio State	4	14-5-1	.7250	9	.5696	8	2-4-0	.3333
9  North Dakota	3	11-7-0	.6111	14	.5578	9	2-6-0	.2500
10 Wisconsin	2	12-6-2	.6500	11	.5563	10	3-3-0	.5000
11 Robert Morris1	9-3-2	.7143	10	.5533	11	2-1-1	.6250
12 Northeastern	0	10-5-2	.6471	12	.5351	12	0-4-1	.1000

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Don't play, one poll we slip, one poll we move up a spot.

Gratifying to see The Ohio State University hasn't been doing squat lately in the polls.

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
December 17, 2012
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Boston College	(44)	11- 2-1	993	1
2	New Hampshire	( 4)	11- 2-2	938	2
3	Notre Dame	( 2)	14- 4-0	911	3
4	Minnesota		11- 3-3	816	4
5	Miami		        11- 3-4	768	5
6	Boston University	10- 5-0	737	6
7	North Dakota		10- 5-3	675	8
8	Western Michigan	11- 4-1	648	7
9	Quinnipiac		12- 3-2	603	9
10	Dartmouth		 7- 2-2	525    10
11	Cornell		         6- 3-2	441    12
12	Nebraska-Omaha		11- 6-1	395    13
13	Union		         8- 3-4	391    14
14	Denver		         9- 6-3	343    11
15	Yale		         7- 3-2	321    15
16	St. Cloud State		11- 7-0	296    17
17	Niagara		        10- 2-4	248    16
18	Minnesota State		10- 6-2	204    20
19	Ferris State		 7- 7-3	 50    19
20	Colgate		         9- 7-2	 47    NR
20	Harvard		         4- 4-1	 47    18
Others receiving votes: Providence 43, Holy Cross 16, Robert Morris 15, 
Ohio State 14, Colorado College 7, Lake Superior 4, Massachusetts-Lowell 2, Michigan 2.

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USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
December 17, 2012
	Team	       Points (First) Last  Record
1  Boston College	503	(28)	1   11-2-1
2  New Hampshire	473	(5)	2   11-2-2
3  Notre Dame	        443	(1)	3   14-4-0
4  Minnesota	        392		4   11-3-3
5  Miami University	366		5   11-3-4
6  Boston University	339		6   10-5-0
7  Western Michigan 	285		7   11-4-1
8  North Dakota	        284		8   10-5-3
9  Quinnipiac 	        247		9   12-3-2
10 Dartmouth 	        198            11    7-2-2
11 Cornell 	        148	       12    6-3-2
12 Union 	        107            13    8-3-4
13 Nebraska-Omaha	 90	       14   11-6-1
14 Yale 	         67	       15    7-3-2
15 Denver	         62	       10    9-6-3
Others receiving votes: St. Cloud State University 48, Niagara University 15, 
Minnesota State University 10, Providence College 3.

 Men’s Division I PairWise Rankings

Rk	Team	       PCWs	W-L-T	Win %	Rk	RPI	Rk
1  Boston College	26	11-2-1	.821	1	.6202	1
2  New Hampshire	25	11-2-2	.800	2	.6107	2
3  Dartmouth	        24	 7-2-2	.727	7	.5893	3
4  Notre Dame	        23	14-4-0	.778	3	.5869	4
5  Boston University	22	10-5-0	.667    10t	.5824	5
6  Quinnipiac	        21	12-3-2	.765	4	.5789	6
7  Yale	                20       7-3-2	.667	10t	.5665	7
8  North Dakota	        19	10-5-3	.639	14t	.5631	8
9  Miami	        18	11-3-4	.722	8	.5622	9
10 Western Michigan	17	11-4-1	.719	9	.5588	10
11 Cornell	        16	 6-3-2	.636	16	.5568	11
12 Minnesota	        15	11-3-3	.735	6	.5557	12
13 Union	        14	 8-3-4	.667	10t	.5485	13
14 St. Cloud State	13	11-7-0	.611	18t	.5437	14
15 Niagara	        11	10-2-4	.750	5	.5391	15
16 Denver	        11	 9-6-3	.583	20	.5296	16
17 Nebraska-Omaha	10	11-6-1	.639	14t	.5293	17
18 Colgate	        10	 9-7-2	.556	22	.5279	18
19 Robert Morris	 8	 7-4-2	.615	17	.5254	19
20 Minnesota State	 7	10-6-2	.611	18t	.5232	20
21 Ohio State	         6	 7-6-5	.528	24	.5223	21
22 Harvard	         5	 4-4-1	.500	25t	.5155	22
23 Mass.-Lowell          4	 6-7-1	.464	31	.5127	23
24 Holy Cross	         3	 9-4-2	.667	10t	.5123	24
25 Providence	         2	 7-6-2	.533	23	.5090	25
26 Colorado College	 1	 8-10-2	.450	32	.5019	26
27 Ferris State	         0	 7-7-3	.500	25t	.5013	27

No new Women's Polls

Women’s Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	PWR	W-L-T	Win %	Win % Rank	RPI	RPI Rank	vs. TUC	TUC %
1  Minnesota	 11	20-0-0	1.000	1t	.6745	1	6-0-0	1.000
2  Harvard	 10	 9-1-1	.8636	3	.6296	2	2-1-0	.6667
3  Clarkson	  8	15-3-0	.8333	4	.6154	4	4-2-0	.6667
4t Cornell	  7	10-3-0	.7692	6	.6155	3	2-3-0	.4000
4t Boston Univ	  7	11-3-3	.7353	8	.6044	5	4-2-1	.6429
4t Boston Coll	  7	11-3-2	.7500	7	.6024	6	2-1-1	.6250
7  Mercyhurst	  6	14-3-1	.8056	5	.5783	7	2-3-1	.4167
8  Ohio State	  4	14-5-1	.7250	9	.5702	8	2-4-0	.3333
9  North Dakota	  3	11-7-0	.6111	14	.5577	9	2-6-0	.2500
10 Wisconsin	  2	12-6-2	.6500	11	.5574	10	3-3-0	.5000
11 Robert Morris  1	 9-3-2	.7143	10	.5566	11	2-1-0	.6667
12 Quinnipiac	  0	12-7-2	.6190	13	.5354	12	0-5-1	.0833

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It's been a while.

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
December 31, 2012
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Minnesota	(35)	13- 3-3	977	4
2	Boston College	( 5)	12- 3-1	922	1
3	Notre Dame	( 9)	14- 4-0	913	3
4	New Hampshire		11- 3-2	843	2
5	Quinnipiac		14- 3-2	769	9
6	Miami		        12- 4-4	730	5
7	North Dakota		10- 5-3	720	7
8	Dartmouth	( 1)	 8- 2-2	661	10
9	Boston University	10- 6-0	612	6
10	Western Michigan	11- 5-2	513	8
11	Denver		        10- 6-3	478	14
12	Cornell		         7- 4-2	425	11
13	Union		         9- 4-4	375	13
14	Minnesota State		12- 6-2	336	18
15	St. Cloud State		12- 8-0	291	16
16	Nebraska-Omaha		11- 8-1	276	12
17	Yale		         7- 4-2	213	15
18	Niagara		        10- 3-4	124	17
19	Robert Morris		 9- 4-2	120	NR
20	Holy Cross		10- 4-2	65	NR
Others receiving votes: Colgate 50, Ferris State 47, Providence 12, 
Harvard 10, Michigan Tech 5, Massachusetts 4, Massachusetts-Lowell 4, 
Northern Michigan 4, Colorado College 1.

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Pairwise CHN

Rk	Team	       PCWs	W-L-T	Win %	Rk	RPI	Rk
1	Boston College	25	12-3-1	.781	2	.6055	1
2	Quinnipiac	24	14-3-2	.789	1	.5870	3
3	New Hampshire	23	12-3-2	.765	4	.6015	2
4	Dartmouth	21	8-3-2	.692	8	.5788	4
5	Notre Dame	21	14-4-0	.778	3	.5787	5
6	Boston Univ	19	10-6-0	.625	15	.5744	6
7	Minnesota	19	13-3-3	.763	5	.5704	7
8	North Dakota	18	10-5-3	.639	14	.5582	8
9	Miami	        17	12-4-4	.700	7	.5568	9
10	Yale	        16	7-4-2	.615	16t	.5476	10
11	Robert Morris	15	9-4-2	.667	10t	.5430	11
12	Cornell	        14	7-4-2	.615	16t	.5430	12
13	Denver	        13	10-6-3	.605	18	.5408	13
14	Western Mich	12	11-5-2	.667	10t	.5408	14
15	Union	        11	9-4-4	.647	13	.5392	15
16	St. Cloud State	11	12-8-0	.600	19	.5392	16
17	Minnesota State	 9	12-6-2	.650	12	.5347	17
18	Colgate	         9	9-7-2	.556	22	.5268	18
19	Holy Cross	 7	10-4-2	.688	9	.5253	19
20	Niagara	         6	10-3-4	.706	6	.5251	20
21	Mass.-Lowell	 5	7-7-1	.500	24t	.5223	21
22	Nebraska-Omaha	 4	11-8-1	.575	20	.5187	22
23	Providence	 3	7-6-3	.531	23	.5171	23
24	Massachusetts	 2	7-9-2	.444	32t	.5166	24
25	Ohio State	 1	7-8-5	.475	27	.5049	25
26	Colorado College 0	8-10-2	.450	30t	.5029	26

Men’s Division I PairWise Rankings USCHO

Rank	Team	        PWR	W-L-T	Win %	Win % Rank	RPI	RPI Rank	vs. TUC	TUC %
1	Boston College	25	12-3-1	.7812	2	.6055*	1	8-2-1	.7727
2	Quinnipiac	24	14-3-2	.7895	1	.5870	3	8-2-2	.7500
3	New Hampshire	23	12-3-2	.7647	4	.6015*	2	8-3-1	.7083
4t	Dartmouth	21	8-3-2	.6923	8	.5788	4	3-3-2	.5000
4t	Notre Dame	21	14-4-0	.7778	3	.5787	5	3-3-0	.5000
6t	Boston Univer	19	10-6-0	.6250	15	.5744	6	6-6-0	.5000
6t	Minnesota	19	13-3-3	.7632	5	.5704	7	4-2-1	.6429
8	North Dakota	18	10-5-3	.6389	14	.5582	8	5-4-1	.5500
9	Miami	        17	12-4-4	.7000	7	.5568	9	5-1-2	.7500
10	Yale	        16	7-4-2	.6154	16t	.5476	10	3-2-2	.5714
11	Robert Morris	15	9-4-2	.6667	10t	.5430	11	4-2-2	.6250
12	Cornell	        14	7-4-2	.6154	16t	.5430	12	3-1-2	.6667
13	Denver	        13	10-6-3	.6053	18	.5408	13	7-4-1	.6250
14	Western Mich	12	11-5-2	.6667	10t	.5408	14	1-1-0	.5000
15t	Union	        11	9-4-4	.6471	13	.5392	15	0-2-1	.1667
15t	St. Cloud State	11	12-8-0	.6000	19	.5392*	16	7-5-0	.5833
17t	Minnesota State	 9	12-6-2	.6500	12	.5347*	17	2-6-0	.2500
17t	Colgate	         9	9-7-2	.5556	22	.5268	18	5-4-1	.5500
19	Holy Cross	 7	10-4-2	.6875	9	.5253*	19	1-1-1	.5000
20	Niagara	         6	10-3-4	.7059	6	.5251*	20	1-1-0	.5000
21	Mass-Lowell	 5	7-7-1	.5000	24t	.5223	21	2-6-0	.2500
22	Nebraska-Omaha	 4	11-8-1	.5750	20	.5187	22	3-6-0	.3333
23	Providence	 3	7-6-3	.5312	23	.5171*	23	0-4-2	.1667
24	Massachusetts	 2	7-9-2	.4444	32t	.5166	24	3-8-1	.2917
25	Ohio State	 1	7-8-5	.4750	27	.5049	25	0-4-3	.2143
26	Colorado Coll	 0	8-10-2	.4500	30t	.5029	26	1-10-2	.1538

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Women’s Division I PairWise Rankings


Rank	Team	       PWR	W-L-T	Win %	Win % Rank	RPI	RPI Rank	vs. TUC	TUC %
1	Minnesota      11	20-0-0	1.000	1t	.6745	1	6-0-0	1.000
2	Harvard	       10	9-1-1	.8636	3	.6296	2	2-1-0	.6667
3	Clarkson	8	15-3-0	.8333	4	.6154	4	4-2-0	.6667
4t	Cornell	        7	10-3-0	.7692	6	.6155	3	2-3-0	.4000
4t	Boston Univer	7	11-3-3	.7353	8	.6044	5	4-2-1	.6429
4t	Boston College	7	11-3-2	.7500	7	.6024	6	2-1-1	.6250
7	Mercyhurst	6	14-3-1	.8056	5	.5783	7	2-3-1	.4167
8	Ohio State	4	14-5-1	.7250	9	.5702	8	2-4-0	.3333
9	North Dakota	3	11-7-0	.6111	14	.5577	9	2-6-0	.2500
10	Wisconsin	2	12-6-2	.6500	11	.5574	10	3-3-0	.5000
11	Robert Morris	1	9-3-2	.7143	10	.5566	11	2-1-0	.6667
12	Quinnipiac	0	12-7-2	.6190	13	.5354	12	0-5-1	.0833

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USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
January 07, 2013
	Team	     (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Minnesota	(38)	13- 3-3	979	1
2	Notre Dame	( 8)	14- 4-0	915	3
3	Boston College	( 1)	12- 3-2	914	2
4	New Hampshire	( 1)	13- 3-2	854	4
5	Quinnipiac	( 2)	16- 3-2	812	5
6	Miami		        12- 4-4	731	6
7	North Dakota		12- 5-3	707	7
8	Boston University	11- 6-0	636	9
9	Denver		        12- 6-3	607	11
10	Western Michigan	12- 5-3	568	10
11	Minnesota State		14- 6-2	440	14
12	Dartmouth		 8- 5-2	420	8
13	Nebraska-Omaha		13- 8-1	397	16
14	Yale		         7- 4-3	290	17
15	Cornell		         7- 6-2	264	12
16	Union		         9- 6-4	231	13
17	Niagara		        11- 3-4	210	18
18	St. Cloud State		12-10-0	166	15
19	Colgate		        11- 7-2	125	NR
20	Massachusetts-Lowell	 9- 7-1	64	NR
Others receiving votes: Robert Morris 61, Ferris State 50, 
Lake Superior 26, Holy Cross 20, Michigan Tech 4, Providence 4, 
Northern Michigan 3, Mercyhurst 2.

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USA Men's Poll - Week 13: January 7, 2013
     	Team        Points (First)Record Last Poll 
1 	Minnesota      476 (21)   13-3-3  1
2 	Boston College 462 (5)    12-3-2  3
3 	Notre Dame     436 (2)    14-4-0  2
4 	New Hampshire  417 (3)    13-3-2  4
5 	Quinnipiac     398 (3)    16-3-2  5
6 	Miami	       327        12-4-4  6
7 	North Dakota   306        12-5-3  7
8 	Boston Univer  276        11-6-0  9
9 	Denver	       234        12-6-3 11
10 	Western Mich   218        12-5-3 10
11 	Minnesota State132        14-6-2 14
12 	Dartmouth      120         8-5-2  8
13 	Nebraska-Omaha 115        13-8-1 15
14 	Yale	        60         7-4-3 NR
15 	Cornell	        36         7-6-2 12

Others receiving votes: Niagara University, 29; Union College, 24; 
Colgate University, 3; Ferris State University, 3; UMass Lowell, 3; 
St. Cloud State University, 3; Lake Superior State University, 1;
 Robert Morris University, 1.

  Pairwise
Rk	Team	       PCWs	W-L-T	Win %	Rk	RPI	Rk
1	Boston College	27	12-3-2	.765	4	.5997	2
2	Quinnipiac	26	16-3-2	.810	1	.5892	3
3	New Hampshire	25	13-3-2	.778	2t	.6005	1
4	Notre Dame	24	14-4-0	.778	2t	.5871	4
5	Boston Univer	23	11-6-0	.647	11t	.5788	5
6	Minnesota	22	13-3-3	.763	5	.5706	6
7	Miami	        21	12-4-4	.700	7	.5610	8
8	North Dakota	20	12-5-3	.675	9t	.5668	7
9	Denver	        19	12-6-3	.643	13	.5547	9
10	Western Michigan18	12-5-3	.675	9t	.5461	10
11	Dartmouth	16	8-5-2	.600	17t	.5461	11
12	Minnesota State	15	14-6-2	.682	8	.5447	12
13	Yale	        15	7-4-3	.607	16	.5419	13
14	Mass.-Lowell	13	9-7-1	.559	20t	.5324	15
15	Nebraska-Omaha	12	13-8-1	.614	14	.5380	14
16	Niagara	        11	11-3-4	.722	6	.5285	16
17	Robert Morris	11	10-5-2	.647	11t	.5270	17
18	Colgate	        11	11-7-2	.600	17t	.5249	19
19	St. Cloud State	10	12-10-0	.545	22t	.5253	18
20	Lake Superior	 9	12-10-0	.545	22t	.5155	21
21	Cornell	         8	7-6-2	.533	24	.5213	20
22	Union	         6	9-6-4	.579	19	.5126	22
23	Massachusetts	 5	7-9-2	.444	33t	.5125	23
24	Ohio State	 5	7-8-5	.475	26	.5096	24
25	Ferris State	 3	9-8-3	.525	25	.5059	25
26	Holy Cross	 2	10-6-2	.611	15	.5053	26
27	Northern Michigan1	8-10-3	.452	32	.5020	27
28	Providence	 0	7-8-3	.472	29t	.5001	28
T U C   L i n e
	Colorado College	8-12-2	.409	45	.4935	29

   

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
January 07, 2013
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Minnesota	(15)	20- 0-0	150	1
2	Harvard		        11- 1-1	119	4
3	Boston College		13- 3-2	115	5
4	Cornell		        10- 3-0	111	3
5	Clarkson		15- 5-0	87	2
6	Boston University	11- 3-3	83	6
7	Mercyhurst		14- 3-1	62	7
8	Wisconsin		12- 6-2	36	8
9	Northeastern		11- 6-2	29	9
10	Ohio State		14- 5-1	22	10
Others receiving votes: North Dakota 9, St. Lawrence 2.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

USA Women's Poll - Week 13: Jan. 8, 2013
     Team   Points (First) Record Last Poll 
1  Minnesota    190 (19)    20-0-0   1
2  Harvard      166         11-1-1   4
3  Boston Coll  144         13-3-2   5
4  Cornell      131         10-3-0   3
5  Boston Univ  112         11-3-3   6
6  Clarkson	 93         15-5-0   2
7  Mercyhurst	 83         14-3-1   7
8  Wisconsin	 36         12-6-2   8
9  Ohio State	 33         14-5-1  NR
10 Northeastern	 30         11-6-2  10

Others receiving votes: North Dakota, 27.

Women’s Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	       PWR	W-L-T	Win %	Win % Rank	RPI	RPI Rank	vs. TUC	TUC %
1	Minnesota      11	20-0-0	1.000	1t	.7246*	1	8-0-0	1.000
2	Harvard	       10	11-1-1	.8846	3	.6344*	2	2-1-0	.6667
3	Boston College	9	13-3-2	.7778	5	.6281*	3	5-1-1	.7857
4	Boston Univer	8	11-3-3	.7353	8	.6133*	5	4-2-1	.6429
5	Cornell	        7	10-3-0	.7692	6	.6141*	4	3-3-0	.5000
6	Clarkson	6	15-5-0	.7500	7	.5898*	6	5-4-0	.5556
7	Mercyhurst	5	14-3-1	.8056	4	.5884*	7	1-1-0	.5000
8	Ohio State	4	14-5-1	.7250	9	.5781*	8	2-4-0	.3333
9	North Dakota	3	13-7-0	.6500	10t	.5637*	9	2-6-0	.2500
10	Wisconsin	2	12-6-2	.6500	10t	.5625*	10	3-3-0	.5000
11	Northeastern	1	11-6-2	.6316	12	.5423*	11	1-5-0	.1667
12	St. Lawrence	0	11-8-1	.5750	16	.5394	12	1-7-0	.1250

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

Cornell falls to 16 in the USCHO poll.

Finally found the overall link to the USA Hockey polls.

OK, I'll put them up now, and clean them up later.

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
January 14, 2013
	Team	     (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Minnesota	(47)	16- 3-3	992	1
2	Boston College		13- 4-2	924	3
3	New Hampshire	( 1)	14- 4-2	875	4
4	Quinnipiac	( 2)	17- 3-3	847	5
5	Notre Dame		15- 6-0	829	2
6	North Dakota		13- 6-3	714	7
7	Denver		        13- 6-4	667	9
8	Miami		        12- 5-5	623	6
9	Boston University	12- 7-0	617	8
10	Western Michigan	13- 5-4	598	10
11	Dartmouth		 9- 5-2	477	12
12	Yale		         9- 4-3	432	14
13	Nebraska-Omaha		13- 9-2	359	13
14	Minnesota State		14- 8-2	348	11
15	Niagara		        13- 3-4	242	17
16	Cornell		         7- 6-2	220	15
17	Union		        10- 7-4	219	16
18	Massachusetts-Lowell	11- 7-1	175	20
19	St. Cloud State		12-10-0	135	18
20	Colgate		        11- 7-2	118	19
Others receiving votes: Wisconsin 19, Providence 15, Robert Morris 15, 
Ferris State 12, Lake Superior 12, Holy Cross 5, Northern Michigan 5, 
Princeton 4, Colorado College 1, Michigan Tech 1.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

USA Week 14: Men's College Hockey Poll


 	   Team     Points (First) Record Last 
1 	Minnesota	507 (31)   16-3-3  1
2 	Boston College	457        13-4-2  2
3 	New Hampshire	430        14-4-2  4
4 	Notre Dame	398        15-6-0  3
5 	Quinnipiac	397 (3)    17-3-3  5
6 	North Dakota	310        13-6-3  7
7 	Denver	        285        13-6-4  9
8 	Miami	        263        12-5-5  6
9 	Boston Univer   258        12-7-0  8
10 	Western Mich    225        13-5-4 10
11 	Dartmouth	148         9-5-2 12
12 	Yale	        145         9-4-3 14
13 	Nebraska-Omaha	 71        13-9-2 13
14 	Minnesota State	 47        14-8-2 11
15 	UMass-Lowell	 38        11-7-1 NR
Others receiving votes:Niagara University, 32; Union College, 27; 
Cornell University, 25; Colgate University, 12; St. Cloud State University, 3; 
Ferris State University, 1; Lake Superior State University, 1.

Pairwise

Rk	Team	       PCWs	W-L-T	Win %	Rk	RPI	Rk
1	New Hampshire	26	14-4-2	.750	3t	.5935	1
2	Boston College	26	13-4-2	.737	5	.5899	2
3	Quinnipiac	26	17-3-3	.804	1	.5881	3
4	Minnesota	24	16-3-3	.795	2	.5827	4
5	Notre Dame	23	15-6-0	.714	6	.5700	5
6	Boston Univer	21	12-7-0	.632	12t	.5672	6
7	North Dakota	21	13-6-3	.659	8t	.5599	7
8	Denver	        20	13-6-4	.652	11	.5565	8
9	Yale	        19	9-4-3	.656	10	.5519	9
10	Miami	        17	12-5-5	.659	8t	.5512	10
11	Western Mich	17	13-5-4	.682	7	.5440	12
12	Dartmouth	16	9-5-2	.625	14t	.5505	11
13	Mass.-Lowell	15	11-7-1	.605	16	.5435	13
14	Niagara	        13	13-3-4	.750	3t	.5350	14
15	Minnesota State	12	14-8-2	.625	14t	.5302	16
16	Colgate	        12	11-7-2	.600	17t	.5237	18
17	Nebraska-Omaha	11	13-9-2	.583	19	.5311	15
18	St. Cloud State	 9	12-10-0	.545	22	.5262	17
19	Cornell	         9	7-6-2	.533	23	.5224	19
20	Robert Morris	 8	11-6-2	.632	12t	.5220	20
21	Northern Mich    7	9-10-4	.478	29	.5102	23
22	Lake Superior	 7	12-11-1	.521	27	.5093	25
23	Union	         6	10-7-4	.571	20	.5167	21
24	Ohio State	 4	8-9-5	.477	30t	.5095	24
25	Wisconsin	 3	8-7-5	.525	24t	.5114	22
26	Alaska-Fairbanks 3	8-8-4	.500	28	.5045	28
27	Providence	 2	9-8-3	.525	24t	.5087	26
28	Ferris State	 1	10-9-3	.523	26	.5070	27

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
January 14, 2013
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Minnesota	(15)	22- 0-0	150	1
2	Boston College		16- 3-2	128	3
3	Harvard		        13- 1-1	122	2
4	Cornell		        11- 4-0	97	4
5	Boston University	14- 3-3	91	6
6	Clarkson		17- 5-0	77	5
7	Wisconsin		14- 6-2	56	8
8	Mercyhurst		16- 3-1	54	7
9	Ohio State		14- 7-1	20	10
10	Northeastern		11- 8-2	17	9
Others receiving votes: North Dakota 6, St. Lawrence 5, Dartmouth 2.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

USA Women's Poll - Week 14: Jan. 15, 2013
 	Team 	Points (First) Record Last Poll 
1 	Minnesota   190 (19)   22-0-0  1
2 	Harvard	    164        13-1-1  2
3 	Boston Coll 159        16-3-2  3
4 	Cornell	    129        11-4-0  4
5 	Boston Univ 112        14-3-3  5
6 	Clarkson     91        17-5-0  6
7 	Mercyhurst   76        16-3-1  7
8 	Wisconsin    65        14-6-2  8
9 	Ohio State   32        14-7-1  9
10 	Northeastern 18        11-8-2 10

Others receiving votes:North Dakota, 9.

Women’s Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	        PWR	W-L-T	Win %	Win % Rank	RPI	RPI Rank	vs. TUC	TUC %
1	Minnesota      11	22-0-0	1.000	1t	.7442*	1	10-0-0	1.000
2	Harvard	       10	13-1-1	.9000	3	.6430*	2	2-1-0	.6667
3	Boston College	9	16-3-2	.8095	5	.6388*	3	4-1-2	.7143
4t	Boston Univer   7	14-3-3	.7750	6	.6164*	4	3-2-1	.5833
4t	Cornell	        7	11-4-0	.7333	8	.6030*	5	4-4-0	.5000
6	Clarkson	6	17-5-0	.7727	7	.5921	6	5-3-0	.6250
7t	Mercyhurst	5	16-3-1	.8250	4	.5884*	7	1-1-0	.5000
7t	Wisconsin	5	14-6-2	.6818	9	.5785*	8	5-3-0	.6250
9	Ohio State	3	14-7-1	.6591	11	.5599*	9	2-6-0	.2500
10	North Dakota	2	13-9-0	.5909	14	.5541*	10	2-8-0	.2000
11	Dartmouth	1	11-5-2	.6667	10	.5472	11	0-2-1	.1667
12	St. Lawrence	0	13-8-1	.6136	12	.5460	12	0-7-0	.0000

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

We dropped off the USA Hockey poll (it only lists the top 15):

 1   	Minnesota (31)
 2   	Boston College
 3   	New Hampshire
 4   	Notre Dame
 5   	Quinnipiac (3)
 6   	North Dakota
 7   	Denver
 8   	Miami
 9   	Boston University
10   	Western Michigan
11  	Dartmouth
12   	Yale
13   	Nebraska-Omaha
14   	Minnesota State
15   	UMass-Lowell

This is the first time Cornell is unranked on that poll since November 7, 2011.

Trotsky
We dropped off the USA Hockey poll (it only lists the top 15):

 1   	Minnesota (31)
 2   	Boston College
 3   	New Hampshire
 4   	Notre Dame
 5   	Quinnipiac (3)
 6   	North Dakota
 7   	Denver
 8   	Miami
 9   	Boston University
10   	Western Michigan
11  	Dartmouth
12   	Yale
13   	Nebraska-Omaha
14   	Minnesota State
15   	UMass-Lowell

This is the first time Cornell is unranked on that poll since November 7, 2011.

The rest is here: [www.usahockey.com] Cornell is essentially 18th.

Chris 02

Trotsky
We dropped off the USA Hockey poll (it only lists the top 15):

 1   	Minnesota (31)
 2   	Boston College
 3   	New Hampshire
 4   	Notre Dame
 5   	Quinnipiac (3)
 6   	North Dakota
 7   	Denver
 8   	Miami
 9   	Boston University
10   	Western Michigan
11  	Dartmouth
12   	Yale
13   	Nebraska-Omaha
14   	Minnesota State
15   	UMass-Lowell

This is the first time Cornell is unranked on that poll since November 7, 2011.

The rest is here: [www.usahockey.com] Cornell is essentially 18th.

Cool beans.

Trotsky
Cool beans.

TimV

Trotsky
Cool beans.

Cool beans in the sense of "Also Ran data captured," not "yay for 18th."

Trotsky

TimV

Trotsky
Cool beans.

Cool beans in the sense of "Also Ran data captured," not "yay for 18th."

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
January 21, 2013
	Team	     (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Minnesota	(48)	17- 3-4	998	1
2	Quinnipiac	( 2)	17- 3-3	920	4
3	Boston College		14- 5-2	913	2
4	New Hampshire		14- 5-2	857	3
5	North Dakota		13- 7-4	746	6
6	Miami		        13- 6-5	700	8
7	Notre Dame		15- 9-0	640	5
8	Yale		        11- 4-3	619	12
9	Western Michigan	14- 6-4	577	10
10	Denver		        13- 8-4	545	7
11	Boston University	12- 9-0	479	9
12	Dartmouth		10- 6-2	456	11
13	Nebraska-Omaha		13- 9-2	358	13
14	Minnesota State		15- 8-3	356	14
15	Massachusetts-Lowell	13- 7-1	346	18
16	St. Cloud State		14-10-0	336	19
17	Niagara		        14- 4-4	183	15
18	Cornell		         8- 7-2	154	16
19	Union		        11- 8-4	120	17
20	Wisconsin		9- 8-5	66	NR
Others receiving votes: Ferris State 39, Alaska 27, Providence 24, 
Northern Michigan 22, Holy Cross 10, Colgate 6, Robert Morris 3.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

USA Men's Poll - Week 15: January 21, 2013
 	  Team  Points (First) Record Last Poll 
1  Minnesota      507 (31)     17-3-4   1
2  Quinnipiac     457 (3)      17-3-3   5
3  Boston College 453          14-5-2   2
4  New Hampshire  403          14-5-2   3
5  North Dakota	  329          13-7-4   6
6  Miami	  326          13-6-5   8
7  Yale	          293          11-4-3  12
8  Notre Dame	  242          15-9-0   4
9  Western Mich   232          14-6-4  10
10 Boston Univer  160          12-9-0   9
11 Denver	  157          13-8-4   7
12 UMass-Lowell	  151          13-7-1  15
13 Dartmouth	  138          10-6-2  11
14 Nebraska-Omaha  68          13-9-2  13
15 St. Cloud State 64          14-10-0 NR

Others receiving votes: Minnesota State University, 57; Niagara
University, 17; Cornell University, 14; Union College, 7; Ferris State
University, 3; University of Alaska, 1; University of Northern Michigan, 1.

Pairwise

Rk	Team	       PCWs	W-L-T	Win %	Rk	RPI	Rk
1	Quinnipiac	28	17-3-3	.804	1	.5874	1
2	Minnesota	27	17-3-4	.792	2	.5801	2
3	Boston College	26	14-5-2	.714	4t	.5758	4
4	New Hampshire	25	14-5-2	.714	4t	.5794	3
5	Yale	        24	11-4-3	.694	6	.5652	5
6	North Dakota	22	13-7-4	.625	11t	.5510	6
7	Mass.-Lowell	22	13-7-1	.643	9	.5499	7
8	Miami	        21	13-6-5	.646	8	.5468	9
9	Dartmouth	19	10-6-2	.611	14	.5470	8
10	Notre Dame	19	15-9-0	.625	11t	.5425	10
11	Denver	        18	13-8-4	.600	15	.5406	12
12	Western Mich	17	14-6-4	.667	7	.5389	14
13	Boston Univer	16	12-9-0	.571	19	.5422	11
14	St. Cloud State	14	14-10-0	.583	17t	.5396	13
15	Minnesota State	13	15-8-3	.635	10	.5354	15
16	Northern Mich	13	11-10-4	.520	28	.5212	18
17	Niagara	        12	14-4-4	.727	3	.5341	16
18	Alaska-Fairbank	12	10-8-4	.545	23t	.5191	19
19	Nebraska-Omaha	 9	13-9-2	.583	17t	.5278	17
20	Cornell	         9	8-7-2	.529	25	.5184	20
21	Ferris State	 8	12-9-3	.562	21	.5184	21
22	Robert Morris	 7	12-7-2	.619	13	.5180	22
23	Lake Superior	 7	13-12-1	.519	29	.5040	27
24	Union	         5	11-8-4	.565	20	.5176	23
25	Colgate	         5	11-9-2	.545	23t	.5108	25
26	Wisconsin	 4	9-8-5	.523	26t	.5120	24
27	Providence	 2	10-9-3	.523	26t	.5090	26
28	Holy Cross	 1	12-8-2	.591	16	.5037	28
29	Massachusetts	 1	8-11-2	.429	43	.5014	29
T U C   L i n e
	Rensselaer		8-10-5	.457	36	.4998	30

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
January 21, 2013
	Team	       (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Minnesota	(15)	24- 0-0	150	1
2	Harvard		        16- 1-1	128	3
3	Boston College		17- 4-2	120	2
4	Cornell		        14- 4-0	103	4
5	Boston University	15- 3-3	95	5
6	Mercyhurst		17- 4-1	68	8
7	Clarkson		18- 6-0	58	6
8	Wisconsin		15- 7-2	52	7
9	Ohio State		15- 7-2	23	9
10	North Dakota		14-10-0	20	NR
Others receiving votes: Northeastern 6, Minnesota-Duluth 2.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

USA Women's Poll - Week 15: Jan. 22, 2013

 	Team  Points (First) Record Last Poll 
1   Minnesota    190 (19)    24-0-0  1
2   Harvard	 165         16-1-1  2
3   Boston Coll  150         17-4-2  3
4   Cornell	 126         14-4-0  4
5   Boston Univer123         15-3-3  5
6   Mercyhurst	  98         17-4-1  7
7   Clarkson	  71         18-6-0  6
8   Wisconsin	  64         15-7-2  8
9   North Dakota  26         14-10-0 NR
10  Ohio State	  23         15-7-2  9

Others receiving votes: Minnesota Duluth, 4; 
Northeastern, 4; Dartmouth, 1.

Women’s Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	PWR	W-L-T	Win %	Win % Rank	RPI	RPI Rank	vs. TUC	TUC %
1  Minnesota	11	24-0-0	1.000	1t	.7404*	1	10-0-0	1.000
2  Harvard	10	16-1-1	.9167	3	.6486*	2	2-1-0	.6667
3  Boston Coll   9	17-4-2	.7826	6	.6328*	3	5-3-2	.6000
4  Boston Univer 8	15-3-3	.7857	5	.6239*	4	3-2-3	.5625
5  Mercyhurst	 7	17-4-1	.7955	4	.5904*	6	2-2-0	.5000
6  Cornell	 6	14-4-0	.7778	7	.6220*	5	3-4-0	.4286
7  Wisconsin	 5	15-7-2	.6667	10t	.5761*	8	6-6-0	.5000
8  Clarkson	 4	18-6-0	.7500	8	.5875*	7	3-4-0	.4286
9  Ohio State	 3	15-7-2	.6667	10t	.5569*	9	4-6-0	.4000
10 North Dakota	 2	14-10-0	.5833	13t	.5526*	10	5-9-0	.3571
11 Minn-Duluth	 1	11-8-3	.5682	15	.5500	11	3-7-2	.3333
12 Dartmouth	 0	12-5-3	.6750	9	.5476	12	0-2-1	.1667

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

All Men's and Women's now up.

We're 24 in USCHO and 27 in PWR. I'll post them later.

Edit: If we feel bad think about those Michigan fans.

Jim Hyla
Edit: If we feel bad think about those Michigan fans.

And say a prayer for those who went to both Cornell and Michigan.......

RatushnyFan

Jim Hyla
Edit: If we feel bad think about those Michigan fans.

And say a prayer for those who went to both Cornell and Michigan.......

Jim and I would be in that club.

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
January 28, 2013
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Minnesota	(28)	18- 4-4	975	1
2	Quinnipiac	(22)	18- 3-3	967	2
3	New Hampshire		15- 6-2	871	4
4	Miami		        15- 6-5	835	6
5	Boston College		14- 7-2	771	3
6	Western Michigan	16- 6-4	723	9
7	North Dakota		13- 8-5	633	5
8	Yale		        12- 5-3	605	8
9	Notre Dame		16-10-0	564	7
10	Denver		        13- 8-4	506	10
11	Boston University	13- 9-1	479	11
12	St. Cloud State		15-10-1	446	16
13	Massachusetts-Lowell	14- 7-2	416	15
14	Nebraska-Omaha		15- 9-2	406	13
15	Minnesota State		16- 9-3	393	14
16	Dartmouth		11- 7-2	302	12
17	Niagara		        15- 4-5	180	17
18	Union		        13- 8-4	151	19
19	Wisconsin		11- 8-5	127	20
20	Alaska		        12- 8-4	69	NR
Others receiving votes: Ferris State 42, Colgate 19, Providence 11, 
Cornell 5, Holy Cross 2, Merrimack 1, Northern Michigan 1.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

USA Men's Poll - Week 16: January 28, 2013
     Team      Points (First) Record Last Poll 
1  Minnesota      497 (23)    18-4-4   1
2  Quinnipiac	  485 (11)    18-3-3   2
3  Miami	  420         15-6-5   6
4  New Hampshire  417         15-6-2   4
5  Boston College 369         14-7-2   3
6  Western Mich   330         16-6-4   9
7  Yale	          290         12-5-3   7
8  North Dakota	  239         13-8-5   5
9  Boston Univer  182         13-9-1  10
10 Denver	  174         13-8-4  11
11 Notre Dame	  169         16-10-0  8
12 UMass-Lowell	  145         14-7-2  12
13 St. Cloud      141         15-10-1 15
14 Nebraska-Omaha  77         15-9-2  14
15 Minnesota State 65         16-9-3  NR

Others receiving votes: Dartmouth College, 43; Niagara University, 17;
University of Alaska, 10; Union College, 6; University of Wisconsin, 3;
Ferris State University, 1.

  PWR
Rk	Team	PCWs	W-L-T	Win %	Rk	RPI	Rk
1  Quinnipiac	 28	18-3-3	.812	1	.5870	1
2  Minnesota	 27	18-4-4	.769	2	.5724	2
3  New Hampshire 25	15-6-2	.696	4	.5672	3
4  Miami	 25	15-6-5	.673	7	.5546	4
5  Yale 	 24	12-5-3	.675	6	.5538	5
6  Boston Coll	 24	14-7-2	.652	8t	.5521	6
7  Western Mich	 22	16-6-4	.692	5	.5457	7
8  Mass.-Lowell	 21	14-7-2	.652	8t	.5456	8
9  St. Cloud 	 19	15-10-1	.596	16t	.5433	9
10 North Dakota	 18	13-8-5	.596	16t	.5415	10
11 Boston Univer 17	13-9-1	.587	18	.5404	11
12 Alaska-Fairbk 17	12-8-4	.583	19t	.5331	18
13 Denver	 16	13-8-4	.600	13t	.5396	12
14 Notre Dame	 15	16-10-0	.615	11t	.5384	13
15 Dartmouth	 15	11-7-2	.600	13t	.5365	14
16 Minnesota St  13	16-9-3	.625	10	.5350	15
17 Niagara	 12	15-4-5	.729	3	.5346	16
18 Union	 10	13-8-4	.600	13t	.5259	19
19 Colgate	 10	13-9-2	.583	19t	.5221	20
20 Northern Mich 10	11-12-4	.481	32	.5123	23
21 Nebraska-Om    8	15-9-2	.615	11t	.5334	17
22 Ferris State	  8	13-10-3	.558	24	.5183	22
23 Wisconsin	  7	11-8-5	.562	23	.5210	21
24 Ohio State	  4	10-11-5	.481	33	.5087	24
25 Providence	  4	10-10-4	.500	28t	.5072	25
26 Robert Morris  4	12-9-2	.565	22	.5046	26
27 Cornell	  2	 8-9-2	.474	36t	.5044	27
28 Merrimack	  1	10-10-5	.500	28t	.5022	28
29 Holy Cross	  0	13-9-2	.583	19t	.5021	29
T U C   L i n e
   St. Lawrence		11-10-3	.521	27	.4978	30

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
January 28, 2013

	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Minnesota	(15)	26- 0-0	150	1
2	Boston College		19- 4-2	128	3
3	Harvard		        17- 2-1	110	2
4	Boston University	17- 3-3	100	5
5	Cornell		        16- 4-0	 99	4
6	Clarkson		20- 6-0	 78	7
7	Mercyhurst		19- 4-1	 68	6
8	Wisconsin		15- 9-2	 39	8
9	North Dakota		16-10-0	 26    10
10	Minnesota-Duluth	13- 8-3	 22    NR
Others receiving votes: Northeastern 5.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

USA Women's Poll - Week 16: Jan. 29, 2013
   Team     Points (First) Record Last Poll 
1  Minnesota   190  (19)   26-0-0  1
2  Boston Coll 167         19-4-2  3
3  Boston Univ 135         17-3-3  5
4  Harvard     125         17-2-1  2
5  Cornell     120         16-4-0  4
6  Clarkson     97         20-6-0  7
7  Mercyhurst	84         19-4-1  6
8  Wisconsin	48         15-9-2  8
9  North Dakota	44         16-10-0 9
10 Minn Duluth	26         13-8-3 NR

Others receiving votes: Northeastern, 9.

Women’s Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	       PWR	W-L-T	Win %	Win % Rank	RPI	RPI Rank	vs. TUC	TUC %
1	Minnesota	11	26-0-0	1.000	1t	.7351*	1	12-0-0	1.000
2	Boston College	10	19-4-2	.8000	6t	.6334*	2	8-3-1	.7083
3	Harvard	         9	17-2-1	.8750	3	.6288*	3	2-2-0	.5000
4	Boston Univer    8	17-3-3	.8043	5	.6266*	4	5-2-3	.6500
5t	Cornell	         6	16-4-0	.8000	6t	.6237*	5	3-4-0	.4286
5t	Clarkson	 6	20-6-0	.7692	8	.5969*	6	4-5-0	.4444
5t	Mercyhurst	 6	19-4-1	.8125	4	.5951*	7	2-2-0	.5000
8	Wisconsin	 4	15-9-2	.6154	9t	.5653*	8	6-8-0	.4286
9	North Dakota	 3	16-10-0	.6154	9t	.5596*	9	5-9-0	.3571
10	Minnesota-Duluth 2	13-8-3	.6042	13	.5588	10	5-7-2	.4286
11	Ohio State	 1	15-9-2	.6154	9t	.5444*	11	4-8-0	.3333
12	Northeastern	 0	14-9-2	.6000	14t	.5413*	12	1-7-0	.1250

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

marty

RatushnyFan

Jim Hyla
Edit: If we feel bad think about those Michigan fans.

And say a prayer for those who went to both Cornell and Michigan.......

Jim and I would be in that club.

Me too

Jim Hyla

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
January 28, 2013

...

Others receiving votes: ... 
Cornell 5

We're still receiving votes after that atrocious weekend and going 1-5 in the last six? And 5 votes to boot?

jtn27

Jim Hyla

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
January 28, 2013

...

Others receiving votes: ... 
Cornell 5

We're still receiving votes after that atrocious weekend and going 1-5 in the last six? And 5 votes to boot?

5 voters believe Rob Pannell skates. Or maybe just faith that Cornell will bounce back from another horrible January. Statistics aside, it feels as if Cornell has a bad January every year. Or maybe lack of faith in everyone rated below Cornell.

RatushnyFan

Jim Hyla
Edit: If we feel bad think about those Michigan fans.

And say a prayer for those who went to both Cornell and Michigan.......

... especially if you lived through the Bo Schembechler era. Something like 0-6-4 (W-L-DNP) in Michigan's first 10 years in bowl games, 5-12 overall, and immortalized in The Big Chill for its big game futility.

There. I feel a little better about the Syracuse lax game.

billhoward

RatushnyFan

Jim Hyla
Edit: If we feel bad think about those Michigan fans.

And say a prayer for those who went to both Cornell and Michigan.......

... especially if you lived through the Bo Schembechler era. Something like 0-6-4 (W-L-DNP) in Michigan's first 10 years in bowl games, 5-12 overall, and immortalized in The Big Chill for its big game futility.

There. I feel a little better about the Syracuse lax game.

So they went to 6 bowl games in 10 years and that was when going to a bowl game was a big thing. You needed more than just a non-losing record to get to a game then. Yeah they lost, but they got there; that's more than most other NCAA teams could say. No, I was happy to "live through the Bo Schembechler era". At least I had a team to cheer for on New Year's Day.

billhoward
Statistics aside, it feels as if Cornell has a bad January every year.

January 2000: 3-3-1
January 2001: 3-2-2
January 2002: 5-1-0
January 2003: 6-1-0
January 2004: 2-5-1
January 2005: 7-1-0
January 2006: 5-1-1
January 2007: 1-4-2
January 2008: 5-2-1
January 2009: 6-2-1
January 2010: 5-1-1
January 2011: 5-1-2
January 2012: 3-2-3
January 2013: 1-5-0

So, yes, the last two haven't been great, but in games played in January 2___, Cornell is 57-31-15, a winning percentage of 0.626. Over those 14 (well, 13 2/3) entire regular seasons, Cornell is 225-119-50, a winning percentage of .635. In other wods, Cornell plays almost exactly the same in January as they do every other month. If Miller (I think that's who it was anyway) tips that puck a couple of inches to the right in OT on Friday, the January number would be .636.

Josh '99

billhoward
Statistics aside, it feels as if Cornell has a bad January every year.

January 2000: 3-3-1
January 2001: 3-2-2
January 2002: 5-1-0
January 2003: 6-1-0
January 2004: 2-5-1
January 2005: 7-1-0
January 2006: 5-1-1
January 2007: 1-4-2
January 2008: 5-2-1
January 2009: 6-2-1
January 2010: 5-1-1
January 2011: 5-1-2
January 2012: 3-2-3
January 2013: 1-5-0

So, yes, the last two haven't been great, but in games played in January 2___, Cornell is 57-31-15, a winning percentage of 0.626. Over those 14 (well, 13 2/3) entire regular seasons, Cornell is 225-119-50, a winning percentage of .635. In other wods, Cornell plays almost exactly the same in January as they do every other month. If Miller (I think that's who it was anyway) tips that puck a couple of inches to the right in OT on Friday, the January number would be .636.

Hey now, he did say "statistics aside" so he's entitled to make whatever wild claims he'd like. That's how it works, right? It's covered by the same sports conversation rule that covers adulation over <insert light-hitting gritty mchustle guy here>'s ability to hit a baseball.

More seriously, I note a similarity to 2007, a year in which Cornell was unable to execute the puck possession game and never seemed to stay at home on defense. From postings around here it sounds like this team has some of the same problems.

Has any Schafer team had meaningful success - in league or out - without being able to play the eternal cycle puck possession game we (ok, fine, I) love to watch?

Tom Lento


Has any Schafer team had meaningful success - in league or out - without being able to play the eternal cycle puck possession game we (ok, fine, I) love to watch?

I think you know the answer already. The Schafer offense is a one trick pony. When it works it is a good trick, when it does not it is pretty poor. Unfortuneately, it has not been all that successful in the past few years. Everyone in college hockey is familiar with our version of the trick and they know that is all we have in the bag.

Towerroad

Tom Lento


Has any Schafer team had meaningful success - in league or out - without being able to play the eternal cycle puck possession game we (ok, fine, I) love to watch?

I think you know the answer already. The Schafer offense is a one trick pony. When it works it is a good trick, when it does not it is pretty poor. Unfortuneately, it has not been all that successful in the past few years. Everyone in college hockey is familiar with our version of the trick and they know that is all we have in the bag.

It was a rhetorical question, yes, but there might have been a couple of seasons in there where Cornell won primarily on the strength of superb special teams rather than puck possession. Hard to say, though - winning possession battles tends to give you more PP chances.

Also, since you bring it up, let's play the "What have you done for me lately, Coach Schafer?" game. Over the past 4 full seasons, 78-43-18, 1 ECAC title, 2 NCAA QF appearances and 1 NCAA first-round loss. You assert that Cornell's game plan isn't working, and I do see a mediocre season and a 2-3 NCAA record in there. Ok, maybe we should overhaul our style to be more like Yale, they were a lot better - best in league, in fact - in those years. Well, a touch over 3 points per year and 1 ECAC title better (89-41-9, with 2 ECAC titles, 2 NCAA QF appearances, and 1 NCAA first-round loss). I'm not sure that justifies drastic measures. Ok, maybe Yale's style is too extreme in the other direction, let's find more of a middle ground. What about Union? 92-47-21 with 1 ECAC title, 1 FF appearance, and 1 NCAA first-round loss. The Frozen Four is great, and because that's so special I'd probably take Union's results over the other two even though, objectively speaking, Yale has had the best run. But Cornell is not far behind, and this in a 4-year window where the ECAC has, for the first time in ages, had 3 legitimately strong teams.

I see people on these boards - possibly even you - saying we should look at what the coach has accomplished recently and call him to account for his performance over the last several years. So I just took a look, and if I were Andy Noel looking at this in the last off-season I'd have given him a raise. Maybe I'd regret it now, but probably not - one bad season doesn't erase years of success, especially not when the past 4 seasons have been, objectively speaking, great.

I don't think stylistic gripes about Cornell's system are all that useful. Perhaps this is because I like defensively oriented hockey, so I think Cornell's approach is great. Even so, there are legitimate complaints about Schafer's teams. I've listed some of them in past seasons, and honestly I think they still hold. I've never really liked the insistence on keeping the umbrella on the PP year in and year out, assuming they're still doing that. Some years it's great, but when the personnel isn't there it looks like a perimeter passing drill hoping for a lucky bounce. Others have complained about a poor breakout, and while I believed the main issue was with inconsistency and lack of offensive depth among the defensemen I'm starting to think there's an adjustment the coaches need to make. It really seems like we're dependent on having 4, if not 6, d-men who are great with the puck, and I don't think that's tractable, at least not at the national level. Another common complaint when things are going poorly is the quality of the team's passing game. I don't think Cornell has *ever* been a great passing team under Schafer, although in the early 2000s they were pretty good. Is that coaching, recruiting, or both? I honestly have no idea, but that might be an interesting Monday morning QB kind of conversation.

Anyway, here's hoping this team gets its house in order and starts executing, otherwise we're in for a long second half and a short post-season.

It takes a special fan to recall all the years Michigan went to bowl games as the highlight and not the outcomes. Lot of Patriots fans right now aren't recalling who has been the most dominant team in pro football since 2000.

billhoward
It takes a special fan to recall all the years Michigan went to bowl games as the highlight and not the outcomes. Lot of Patriots fans right now aren't recalling who has been the most dominant team in pro football since 2000.

Thanks, I'll take special in a positive light, but I think if you eliminate OSU (The, if you like), the rest of the Big Ten fans would have jumped at the chance to have had Bo's record. As I said before, we had someone to cheer for in December and Jan 1 and that means a lot. I'd rather go to tht FF and lose every year, than never go.

Tom Lento

Towerroad

Tom Lento


Has any Schafer team had meaningful success - in league or out - without being able to play the eternal cycle puck possession game we (ok, fine, I) love to watch?

I think you know the answer already. The Schafer offense is a one trick pony. When it works it is a good trick, when it does not it is pretty poor. Unfortuneately, it has not been all that successful in the past few years. Everyone in college hockey is familiar with our version of the trick and they know that is all we have in the bag.

It was a rhetorical question, yes, but there might have been a couple of seasons in there where Cornell won primarily on the strength of superb special teams rather than puck possession. Hard to say, though - winning possession battles tends to give you more PP chances.

Also, since you bring it up, let's play the "What have you done for me lately, Coach Schafer?" game. Over the past 4 full seasons, 78-43-18, 1 ECAC title, 2 NCAA QF appearances and 1 NCAA first-round loss. You assert that Cornell's game plan isn't working, and I do see a mediocre season and a 2-3 NCAA record in there. Ok, maybe we should overhaul our style to be more like Yale, they were a lot better - best in league, in fact - in those years. Well, a touch over 3 points per year and 1 ECAC title better (89-41-9, with 2 ECAC titles, 2 NCAA QF appearances, and 1 NCAA first-round loss). I'm not sure that justifies drastic measures. Ok, maybe Yale's style is too extreme in the other direction, let's find more of a middle ground. What about Union? 92-47-21 with 1 ECAC title, 1 FF appearance, and 1 NCAA first-round loss. The Frozen Four is great, and because that's so special I'd probably take Union's results over the other two even though, objectively speaking, Yale has had the best run. But Cornell is not far behind, and this in a 4-year window where the ECAC has, for the first time in ages, had 3 legitimately strong teams.

I see people on these boards - possibly even you - saying we should look at what the coach has accomplished recently and call him to account for his performance over the last several years. So I just took a look, and if I were Andy Noel looking at this in the last off-season I'd have given him a raise. Maybe I'd regret it now, but probably not - one bad season doesn't erase years of success, especially not when the past 4 seasons have been, objectively speaking, great.

I don't think stylistic gripes about Cornell's system are all that useful. Perhaps this is because I like defensively oriented hockey, so I think Cornell's approach is great. Even so, there are legitimate complaints about Schafer's teams. I've listed some of them in past seasons, and honestly I think they still hold. I've never really liked the insistence on keeping the umbrella on the PP year in and year out, assuming they're still doing that. Some years it's great, but when the personnel isn't there it looks like a perimeter passing drill hoping for a lucky bounce. Others have complained about a poor breakout, and while I believed the main issue was with inconsistency and lack of offensive depth among the defensemen I'm starting to think there's an adjustment the coaches need to make. It really seems like we're dependent on having 4, if not 6, d-men who are great with the puck, and I don't think that's tractable, at least not at the national level. Another common complaint when things are going poorly is the quality of the team's passing game. I don't think Cornell has *ever* been a great passing team under Schafer, although in the early 2000s they were pretty good. Is that coaching, recruiting, or both? I honestly have no idea, but that might be an interesting Monday morning QB kind of conversation.

Anyway, here's hoping this team gets its house in order and starts executing, otherwise we're in for a long second half and a short post-season.

This is a good post. Thank you for taking the time to compose it.

Tom Lento

Also, since you bring it up, let's play the "What have you done for me lately, Coach Schafer?" game. Over the past 4 full seasons, 78-43-18, 1 ECAC title, 2 NCAA QF appearances and 1 NCAA first-round loss. You assert that Cornell's game plan isn't working, and I do see a mediocre season and a 2-3 NCAA record in there. Ok, maybe we should overhaul our style to be more like Yale, they were a lot better - best in league, in fact - in those years. Well, a touch over 3 points per year and 1 ECAC title better (89-41-9, with 2 ECAC titles, 2 NCAA QF appearances, and 1 NCAA first-round loss). I'm not sure that justifies drastic measures. Ok, maybe Yale's style is too extreme in the other direction, let's find more of a middle ground. What about Union? 92-47-21 with 1 ECAC title, 1 FF appearance, and 1 NCAA first-round loss. The Frozen Four is great, and because that's so special I'd probably take Union's results over the other two even though, objectively speaking, Yale has had the best run. But Cornell is not far behind, and this in a 4-year window where the ECAC has, for the first time in ages, had 3 legitimately strong teams.

Tom

It is interesting that you asked this question, I did too. If you look at how consistently a team plays in the NCAA tournament as the ultimate measure of how good a program is the answer is interesting. I took the last 5 tournaments and made a spreadsheet of the number of games and wins each participant had over the 5 years. If you rank teams by the number of tournament wins and then by the winning percentage Cornell comes in tied with Yale at #16. (5 appearances, 2 wins).

I think #16 is probably a reasonable rank for Cornell year in and year out. Our program is not one of the elite programs (only from a hockey perspective) in the country. It is an open question in my mind as to whether we want to pay the price to move up on the list. I am not calling for the coaches head, anyone can have a bad year. I bleed as RED as you but, I have reached the point where I am skeptical that Cornell will reach the promised land with the program that we have now.

I share your hope for a better result but the logical part of my brain says not to invest in it.

LGR

Towerroad
It is an open question in my mind as to whether we want to pay the price to move up on the list.

I am curious what you mean by this.

Trotsky

Towerroad
It is an open question in my mind as to whether we want to pay the price to move up on the list.

I am curious what you mean by this.

Here are a few. I think you will see why I made the comment

New Coach and Staff
Build a Hockey Pleasure Palace
Lower Academic Standards for Recruits
Leave the Ivy League
Offer Athletic Scholarships
Dig up Ned and see if we could get a little DNA

So, we are what we are a middling good hockey program. In a good year we are Tournament fodder. I am not sure we want to pay the price to be like N.DAK or BU or Ferris.

Towerroad

Trotsky

Towerroad
It is an open question in my mind as to whether we want to pay the price to move up on the list.

I am curious what you mean by this.

Here are a few. I think you will see why I made the comment

New Coach and Staff
Build a Hockey Pleasure Palace
Lower Academic Standards for Recruits
Leave the Ivy League
Offer Athletic Scholarships
Dig up Ned and see if we could get a little DNA

So, we are what we are a middling good hockey program. In a good year we are Tournament fodder. I am not sure we want to pay the price to be like N.DAK or BU or Ferris.

Yes. Let's strive to be like Ferris St. They are truly a historical juggernaut of a program every school looks to emulate. What with all those NCAA tournament apparances. Both of them. With FSU sitting at 21 in the PWR, I treat their nice run last year as a "lightning in a bottle" tournament. Good for them, but wanting to trade CU's record for Ferris's is just silly. (NB: I would have used CHN's history page, but FSU hasn't been credited with their 2012 performance. Adam.)

Sorry, I didn't want to undercut your point, but I just had to comment on what a short-term memory people have about what constitutes a dominant, always-near-the-top national program. Ten years ago, everybody in the East wanted to be like UNH. Six years ago it was Maine, now it's BC. Teams hit cycles.

RichH

Towerroad

Trotsky

Towerroad
It is an open question in my mind as to whether we want to pay the price to move up on the list.

I am curious what you mean by this.

Here are a few. I think you will see why I made the comment

New Coach and Staff
Build a Hockey Pleasure Palace
Lower Academic Standards for Recruits
Leave the Ivy League
Offer Athletic Scholarships
Dig up Ned and see if we could get a little DNA

So, we are what we are a middling good hockey program. In a good year we are Tournament fodder. I am not sure we want to pay the price to be like N.DAK or BU or Ferris.

Yes. Let's strive to be like Ferris St. They are truly a historical juggernaut of a program every school looks to emulate. What with all those NCAA tournament apparances. Both of them. With FSU sitting at 21 in the PWR, I treat their nice run last year as a "lightning in a bottle" tournament. Good for them, but wanting to trade CU's record for Ferris's is just silly. (NB: I would have used CHN's history page, but FSU hasn't been credited with their 2012 performance. Adam.)

Sorry, I didn't want to undercut your point, but I just had to comment on what a short-term memory people have about what constitutes a dominant, always-near-the-top national program. Ten years ago, everybody in the East wanted to be like UNH. Six years ago it was Maine, now it's BC. Teams hit cycles.

Yeah, Ferris was probably not the best example but by the metric I used they ranked higher (3 wins, 67% beats 2 wins and 40%). Here is the top 20 in order.

BC
Minn Duluth
Miami
Notre Dame
N. Dak
Mich
BU
Wisc.
Ferris
UNH
RIT
VT
Union
Minn.
Bemidgi
Yale
Cornell
Lowell
Denver
St Cloud

Let's face the facts, it has been 40 years since anyone has wanted to be like us.

Towerroad

RichH

Towerroad

Trotsky

Towerroad
It is an open question in my mind as to whether we want to pay the price to move up on the list.

I am curious what you mean by this.

Here are a few. I think you will see why I made the comment

New Coach and Staff
Build a Hockey Pleasure Palace
Lower Academic Standards for Recruits
Leave the Ivy League
Offer Athletic Scholarships
Dig up Ned and see if we could get a little DNA

So, we are what we are a middling good hockey program. In a good year we are Tournament fodder. I am not sure we want to pay the price to be like N.DAK or BU or Ferris.

Yes. Let's strive to be like Ferris St. They are truly a historical juggernaut of a program every school looks to emulate. What with all those NCAA tournament apparances. Both of them. With FSU sitting at 21 in the PWR, I treat their nice run last year as a "lightning in a bottle" tournament. Good for them, but wanting to trade CU's record for Ferris's is just silly. (NB: I would have used CHN's history page, but FSU hasn't been credited with their 2012 performance. Adam.)

Sorry, I didn't want to undercut your point, but I just had to comment on what a short-term memory people have about what constitutes a dominant, always-near-the-top national program. Ten years ago, everybody in the East wanted to be like UNH. Six years ago it was Maine, now it's BC. Teams hit cycles.

Yeah, Ferris was probably not the best example but by the metric I used they ranked higher (3 wins, 67% beats 2 wins and 40%). Here is the top 20 in order.

BC
Minn Duluth
Miami
Notre Dame
N. Dak
Mich
BU
Wisc.
Ferris
UNH
RIT
VT
Union
Minn.
Bemidgi
Yale
Cornell
Lowell
Denver
St Cloud

Let's face the facts, it has been 40 years since anyone has wanted to be like us.

Not really, as I posted on another thread about Mich football and the Bo Schembechler era, there are a lot of teams below us who would love to be like us. In fact, I think many Harvard fans, all 2, would trade with us. Which is why I can't understand why they continue to get such good talent, and it goes to waste. But that's a topic for a different thread.

Jim Hyla

Towerroad

RichH

Towerroad

Trotsky

Towerroad
It is an open question in my mind as to whether we want to pay the price to move up on the list.

I am curious what you mean by this.

Here are a few. I think you will see why I made the comment

New Coach and Staff
Build a Hockey Pleasure Palace
Lower Academic Standards for Recruits
Leave the Ivy League
Offer Athletic Scholarships
Dig up Ned and see if we could get a little DNA

So, we are what we are a middling good hockey program. In a good year we are Tournament fodder. I am not sure we want to pay the price to be like N.DAK or BU or Ferris.

Yes. Let's strive to be like Ferris St. They are truly a historical juggernaut of a program every school looks to emulate. What with all those NCAA tournament apparances. Both of them. With FSU sitting at 21 in the PWR, I treat their nice run last year as a "lightning in a bottle" tournament. Good for them, but wanting to trade CU's record for Ferris's is just silly. (NB: I would have used CHN's history page, but FSU hasn't been credited with their 2012 performance. Adam.)

Sorry, I didn't want to undercut your point, but I just had to comment on what a short-term memory people have about what constitutes a dominant, always-near-the-top national program. Ten years ago, everybody in the East wanted to be like UNH. Six years ago it was Maine, now it's BC. Teams hit cycles.

Yeah, Ferris was probably not the best example but by the metric I used they ranked higher (3 wins, 67% beats 2 wins and 40%). Here is the top 20 in order.

BC
Minn Duluth
Miami
Notre Dame
N. Dak
Mich
BU
Wisc.
Ferris
UNH
RIT
VT
Union
Minn.
Bemidgi
Yale
Cornell
Lowell
Denver
St Cloud

Let's face the facts, it has been 40 years since anyone has wanted to be like us.

Not really, as I posted on another thread about Mich football and the Bo Schembechler era, there are a lot of teams below us who would love to be like us. In fact, I think many Harvard fans, all 2, would trade with us. Which is why I can't understand why they continue to get such good talent, and it goes to waste. But that's a topic for a different thread.

Harvard has 2 fans? That means they doubled their fan base.

Perhaps the better way to state the case is, "If you were a middling team with an institutional mandate to improve would you choose to emulate Cornell or some team on the top 10 of my list?"

Another way to ask the question is: Is there anyone on the top 10 list that plays the same sort of defense first, endless cycle, puck control hockey we want to play? I am asking for real here if they do we might reasonably ask what they are doing better than we are.

RichH
I would have used CHN's history page

AHEM!

Edit: oh shit, that is incomplete too. But still...