Red Cast Really Sucks

marty
Redcast Highlights from QPac Game 2




Apologies for cross posting in Other Sports

marty
Redcast Highlights from QPac Game 2




Apologies for cross posting in Other Sports

snert1288
Is there a reason that Redcast for lacrosse has replays, but for hockey it does not?

Weder

snert1288
Is there a reason that Redcast for lacrosse has replays, but for hockey it does not?

I'm guessing that the donors who ponied up for the scoreboard also paid for the replay equipment.

TimV
Especially love the contrived, sappy shots used for player intros where they start with their heads down as if scrutinizing their genitalia then look up at the camera as if caught in the act.

Weder
The Ivy League is launching an online network in August. Each school will have its own channel, and it looks like the schools will set their own subscription prices.

The service will be run by NeuLion, which in my experience does a really nice job with streaming content.

"It's not just about streaming video," said Chris Wagner, EVP and Co-Founder of NeuLion. "It's about the fan experience, the high quality video on any device, and the interaction with the game or match which includes stats, social media and more.

RichH

Weder
The Ivy League is launching an online network in August. Each school will have its own channel, and it looks like the schools will set their own subscription prices.

The service will be run by NeuLion, which in my experience does a really nice job with streaming content.

Very interesting. I'm assuming one subscription gives you access to all nine channels, which is very good. This does bring up a few questions:

1) Will this completely replace RedCast?

2) Does this mean that for simultaneous events like say hockey & basketball, each school will have to make a choice as to what to show on its channel? One negative, if so.

3) Does this remove the availability of getting streaming audio from a non-Ivy road game? For example, Cornell at St. Lawrence hockey. I doubt you can count on the Cornell NeuLion team getting access to every road venue. Another negative.

4) Does/Will NeuLion have apps for things like Roku, AppleTV, smart TVs?

Overall, good news, with some cautious optimism that this has the potential to be thrilling news. My two concerns are #2 and #3. And hopefully the solution is not a double-dip charge with both RedCast/NeuLion.

The new network, powered by the NeuLion College Platform, will provide live and on-demand video and audio content from each school

Will the investment in new equipment make a big difference here at Cornell? You bet it will. Particularly in the reliability of the stream.

— Cornell Big Red (@CornellSports) April 26, 2013

Trotsky
Single subscription model for all schools is a fine thing (as long as the other concerns are addressed).

This is bad, though:

"It's not just about streaming video," said Chris Wagner, EVP and Co-Founder of NeuLion. "It's about the fan experience, the high quality video on any device, and the interaction with the game or match which includes stats, social media and more.

No, Chris, it is just about streaming video (quality). Everything else is either provided better elsewhere (stats) or worthless crap (social media, "fan experience", etc).

Trotsky
Single subscription model for all schools is a fine thing (as long as the other concerns are addressed).

This is bad, though:

"It's not just about streaming video," said Chris Wagner, EVP and Co-Founder of NeuLion. "It's about the fan experience, the high quality video on any device, and the interaction with the game or match which includes stats, social media and more.

No, Chris, it is just about streaming video (quality). Everything else is either provided better elsewhere (stats) or worthless crap (social media, "fan experience", etc).

Josh '99

Trotsky
Single subscription model for all schools is a fine thing (as long as the other concerns are addressed).

This is bad, though:

"It's not just about streaming video," said Chris Wagner, EVP and Co-Founder of NeuLion. "It's about the fan experience, the high quality video on any device, and the interaction with the game or match which includes stats, social media and more.

No, Chris, it is just about streaming video (quality). Everything else is either provided better elsewhere (stats) or worthless crap (social media, "fan experience", etc).

There's no reason stats must be provided better elsewhere. Maybe their integrated stats will turn out to be better than what you can find on CHN or USCHO or collegehockeystats.net or wherever, wouldn't that be a value-added feature? If we're willing to give them a chance to prove that they can do a better job with video, we may as well also give them a chance to prove they can do a better job with stats, no?

More broadly, for you it's just about streaming video, but that doesn't mean there aren't many others who are interested in additional features. We have an eLynah chat going during games, right? Isn't that one form of social media integration?

Chris '03

Josh '99

Trotsky
Single subscription model for all schools is a fine thing (as long as the other concerns are addressed).

This is bad, though:

"It's not just about streaming video," said Chris Wagner, EVP and Co-Founder of NeuLion. "It's about the fan experience, the high quality video on any device, and the interaction with the game or match which includes stats, social media and more.

No, Chris, it is just about streaming video (quality). Everything else is either provided better elsewhere (stats) or worthless crap (social media, "fan experience", etc).

There's no reason stats must be provided better elsewhere. Maybe their integrated stats will turn out to be better than what you can find on CHN or USCHO or collegehockeystats.net or wherever, wouldn't that be a value-added feature? If we're willing to give them a chance to prove that they can do a better job with video, we may as well also give them a chance to prove they can do a better job with stats, no?

More broadly, for you it's just about streaming video, but that doesn't mean there aren't many others who are interested in additional features. We have an eLynah chat going during games, right? Isn't that one form of social media integration?

If I can't read numbers on jerseys, I don't care what else it does or doesn't do. Get video right and then add whatever other features you want as long as those features don't get in the way of the video function. No one is paying a subscription fee for integrated twitter feeds or livestats. The difference is that there are top notch alternatives for stats and social media (CHN, elynah chat, twitter, etc.) but there aren't any alternatives for video (at least as it pertains to Cornell).

Trotsky
Single subscription model for all schools is a fine thing (as long as the other concerns are addressed).

This is bad, though:

"It's not just about streaming video," said Chris Wagner, EVP and Co-Founder of NeuLion. "It's about the fan experience, the high quality video on any device, and the interaction with the game or match which includes stats, social media and more.

No, Chris, it is just about streaming video (quality). Everything else is either provided better elsewhere (stats) or worthless crap (social media, "fan experience", etc).

Josh '99

Chris '03

Josh '99

Trotsky
Single subscription model for all schools is a fine thing (as long as the other concerns are addressed).

This is bad, though:

"It's not just about streaming video," said Chris Wagner, EVP and Co-Founder of NeuLion. "It's about the fan experience, the high quality video on any device, and the interaction with the game or match which includes stats, social media and more.

No, Chris, it is just about streaming video (quality). Everything else is either provided better elsewhere (stats) or worthless crap (social media, "fan experience", etc).

There's no reason stats must be provided better elsewhere. Maybe their integrated stats will turn out to be better than what you can find on CHN or USCHO or collegehockeystats.net or wherever, wouldn't that be a value-added feature? If we're willing to give them a chance to prove that they can do a better job with video, we may as well also give them a chance to prove they can do a better job with stats, no?

More broadly, for you it's just about streaming video, but that doesn't mean there aren't many others who are interested in additional features. We have an eLynah chat going during games, right? Isn't that one form of social media integration?

If I can't read numbers on jerseys, I don't care what else it does or doesn't do. Get video right and then add whatever other features you want as long as those features don't get in the way of the video function. No one is paying a subscription fee for integrated twitter feeds or livestats. The difference is that there are top notch alternatives for stats and social media (CHN, elynah chat, twitter, etc.) but there aren't any alternatives for video (at least as it pertains to Cornell).

I agree, but "video is the most important thing" does not equal "anything else they might offer is worthless".

Jim Hyla
I just got an email from Chelsea Nunn at NeuLion. She states that at this time it's not expected to be available on smartphones or settop boxes, but that might change. If you're really interested in that, I'd suggest you email NeuLion +/or the leaque and "nicely" say how happy you are that this is happening, and how much you'd like the other options. NeuLion does have the capacity to do it.

munchkin

Jim Hyla
I just got an email from Chelsea Nunn at NeuLion. She states that at this time it's not expected to be available on smartphones or settop boxes, but that might change. If you're really interested in that, I'd suggest you email NeuLion +/or the leaque and "nicely" say how happy you are that this is happening, and how much you'd like the other options. NeuLion does have the capacity to do it.

I know this is lazy of me, but do you know to whom I should address an email if I say I want it available on my Roku - because that would be pretty sweet.

Chelsea, Scottie:

I'm cautiously optimistic to hear about the new Ivy League streaming video solution that has been announced, but I wanted to add my voice to those who are primarily concerned about video quality.

As a Cornell grad, I've dealt with several poor video solutions in a row for ice hockey for a decade: low bitrate, low resolution, low framerate, poor reliability, camera operator not paying attention to the game, etc. Furthermore, the inability to see away games has limited its appeal and made the value proposition questionable.

Briefly, here's my take on how the features of this service should be prioritized:

1. Video quality: high-definition, 30fps. No more of this fuzzy 240p video at 15fps. I'd like to be able to see the puck and read the numbers on the backs of the jerseys. I'd also like the camera operator to follow the game and not be caught behind the play all the time.

2. Reliability: the video stream should always be available, with updates on the website indicating the cause of the downtime and an ETA for its return in the event of problems.

3. Universality: the video stream must be available on all common platforms, including Mac and Linux. Ideally, however, it should be as universal as Youtube: I would like to be able to watch it on my Roku set top box, or from within XBMC with a plugin, or on my Android tablet/phone. That means video should be encoded in a standard format (e.g., h.264). RedCast (through Sidearm) is an example of how NOT to provide video, being limited to platforms with access to Adobe Flash.

4. Simple interface: one of the really nice things about Yale's use of Youtube has been the simple interface that Youtube provides: even from within a web browser, the interface is fast and simple, and making it full screen is possible with one click of the mouse. RedCast by contrast is an incredibly heavy-weight interface that is slow and clunky.

5. Away games: having access to both home and away Ivy League games without having to pay an additional fee or manage a separate account would be great.

6. Everything else. If you want to incorporate social networking integration or game tracking or whatever, go nuts, but please don't interfere with the video in any way because I don't care about any of this stuff: I just want the video to work.

While I love the price of Yale's solution (free), I would be happy to pay for a high-quality service that provides me with reliable and universal access.

Thanks for your consideration.

Jim Hyla

munchkin

Jim Hyla
I just got an email from Chelsea Nunn at NeuLion. She states that at this time it's not expected to be available on smartphones or settop boxes, but that might change. If you're really interested in that, I'd suggest you email NeuLion +/or the leaque and "nicely" say how happy you are that this is happening, and how much you'd like the other options. NeuLion does have the capacity to do it.

I know this is lazy of me, but do you know to whom I should address an email if I say I want it available on my Roku - because that would be pretty sweet.

The email addresses are at the end of the Ivy League press release. I sent to Chelsea Nunn at NeuLion, but I think cc to both would be the best, and the more that send in, the better. So if you know other Ivy school grads, encourage them to add to the mix.

Oh hell, here are the email addresses. I felt I might as well make it as easy as possible (for those who are lazy).

MEDIA CONTACTS
Scottie Rodgers
The Ivy League
609-258-2999
scottie@ivyleaguesports.com

Chelsea Nunn
NeuLion
516-622-8381
chelsea.nunn@neulion.com

Have a passion for Multimedia Production and College Sports? Highly skilled in video production and streaming? [t.co]

— Cornell Big Red (@CornellSports) July 24, 2013